Fishing a Topwater with Braid!!! (Don’t get left behind)
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- I’ve got 99 problems but throwing a topwater on braid will never be one. In this video I share all the reasons why you should be throwing a topwater on braid. The new era is here and if your still throwing mono for topwaters your gonna get left behind.😂😂
7 years ago I bought my first braid. It sucked back lash every other cast. I tried I almost gave up realized not all braid is equal. I watched your video on
Your braid I've never looked back. Best braid hands down 30 pound sunline. I tried them all. Man I appreciate you.
Thank you!
“Things worked in the past so that’s how I’m going to do it now. New technology is evil” - R.B.
Seriously, I agree with the video 99%. I have changed over to braid for all but two situations.
A) I often throw a prop bait here in Florida and the braid gets tangled I. The front prop too easily.
B) I am often throwing my topwater lures over hydrilla that is 6” below the surface. I find that the lure floats higher and gets snagged less often when I use mono.
New to the channel. Loving it.
This is spot on Todd
Lil advice if you are dealing with trebles wrapping the braid. Put a handful of bobber stops before the knot. The hooks will typically slide off the stops without ruining your retrieve
Good advice I like it
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 Thanks man. Appreciate your videos. Fellow skeeter owner here also. Love the bugs haha
Randy Blaukat is somewhere shaking his anti-braid head...LOL!
They do agree in the cost of equipment (boats, trucks, electronics) as well as hard it is to get started in today's tournament fishing arena. I only use braid on spinning reels and top waters, I still use mono when using shallow crank baits near cover the extra stretch helps to prevent snags, less likely to bury hooks in underwater cover.
All my topwater on braid period
I use braid for everything including cranking, finesse and topwater. Braid for cranking is extremely underrated! To me it's a must.
I love the casting with braid. If anything I’ll tie on floral carbon leader’s with an Alberto knot, Depending on the scenario. But if there’s one thing I can’t stand is that have straight fluorocarbon on my bait casters.
@@12345B say what you want, that is just conjecture.
@@12345B @The Third Perception at the end of the day mono isn't cheaper. With mono and fluro you have to change it out probably once a month or at the most every couple months if you don't fish much and I have used the same braid for over a year now. In the long run it lasts much longer and that saves you more money. Besides I can't tell you how many times I've lost fish on fluro, doesn't matter which brand. It seems like it gets brittle and breaks very easily and I absolutely hate mono. Possibly the worst thing you can use I think. To much stretch and almost zero sensitivity. I hate that. Crankbait legend David Fritts has videos on this. Check him out, it might make some sense to you.
I throw mono because I can’t stand braid on any reel. I buy my mono from Japan and I love it.
Thanks for sharing this with us Todd. Great tips from someone who doesn’t BS.
I'm fairly new to your channel, and I LOVE your style!!!!!!. Common sense fishing, with results!!!!. Enough said.
Great advise...i use braid on about all my setups unless its a jerk bait or something of the sort or super clear water...I like using braid to a short piece of mono for topwater just to eliminate the issue with trebles getting into the braid and gives a little on the hook set
I know what you mean about the trebles. Rather than use a leader the solution I like is putting several bobber stops just in front of the knot. Pushed tight together they form a leader with the braid running through and keep the line away from the front treble. I've seen guys put super glue on the first 3/4 of an inch of line too for the same effect
Man you at the beach? Lol
I'm all for braid on topwaters. (Sunline Xplasma is the best I've found hands down, but I always use at least an 8 carrier for topwaters, except for frogs in grass then 4 carrier to help cut through with a fish on). Once the braid has been broken in I start using a mono/copo (Sunline Machinegun Cast & Berkley Big Game are my favorites) leader on topwater, to keep the line from tangling in the front hook. The other 10% of the time I'm using exclusively Sunline Defier Armilo, it has almost no stretch and is really some amazing stuff.
Edit: The Sunline Xplasma has to be the tightest weaved braid ever made. It doesn't absorb water like other braids, is smooth, last longer, keeps color, it's legit the best 8 carrier on the market. Past it Vicious no fade is 2nd, but xplasma is pretty far ahead.
"Hey Todd, Can I borrow your Smart Phone? My mono got wrapped round the antenna on my Flip Phone and went over the side!..." :)
Antenna 🤣🤣🤣🤣 how many of us broke those things
Thanks for the vid. You always have good content. I swapped over to 30 lb braid for all my topwaters, except my poppers. I will tie a 1 foot leader of 15 lb mono to the 30 lb braid because the poppers I throw walk really good and the front hook snags the braid without the leader. A short leader for me helps keep the knot out of the eyelets too. So far my spook type baits has not hung the braid but if it does, I will add the leader.
I agree with you on the braid, but the smart phone not so much. I don't own a cell phone. Wouldn't. Ever. I have a landline everywhere I care to be reached. One of the worst things in the world is the capacity for tracking your movements. I know, I know, convenience blah blah blah. That convenience comes with a cost that's going to become more severe.
All they follow me is to the water
From my experience i have definitely noticed the pull on braid when the fish gets hooked and i feel like that is a helping factor vs mono
Braid to short mono leader, I tend to hook the line more with trebles in walking baits with braid.
agreed. I run the same program.
Well said! There are just too many advantages not to use braid.
Awesome advice! I fish braid on ALL my reels. Some with a fluoro leader but i have never used mono.
30lb braid to about a foot of 17-22lb mono leader to absorb the shock. Works for just about anything top water with treble hooks.
When do you use a floro leader when using braid if you mainly use braid on everything? I know top water would be straight braid but what about on slow moving baits? Also what effects does water clarity fact in when to use floor over braid?
The only thing I’ve seen it where it matters is a prop bait. You can use a leader if you want I just don’t have to it’s not a necessity. I’ve never in my life seen where braid on top has ever made a difference
I think the main thing you said is using a soft rod with braid. If you're using a more stiff rod your going to need a mono leader. If using a softer rod you can get away with straight braid. Unless you have those giant treble hooks when you can winch them in.
Agree 100% with you on braid. However, fishing a laydown with my best friend who reties his 65 lb braid once a year( maybe). He broke off a 2 lb on a baby brush hog and I pitched right back in and caught his fish. His BBH and hook was in its mouth and I have the photo to prove it. Goes to show has aggressive bass are.
What are your feeling on flipping with braid in relatively clear water? I.e willows at grand?
"You the Man" ...I've been using Xplasma for 3+ yrs now on all the reels ... I do alot of finesse fishing and tie the Sunline leader 10lb to 16lb braid ... love the bright green for drop shot .... 30lb for worming / jigs ..etc. Now 1/3 of our Austin Christian Bass club uses the X ... .. does tie Alberto knot well too ..
I have to assume you are addressing long cast top water. I do use braid in this situation.
But when I’m burning down a bank with quick 10-15yrd casts I’m still a fan of my medium moderate rod with mono.
I totally get stripping off the mono on those distance setups.
But A. upshawn turned me onto the lews SP reels. I bought one and it has been an eye opener. It’s an amazing reel. And considering I do more short distance casting than distance casting, I’m slowly changing 1/2 my reels over to the SP lews.
Can you do a video on finesse techniques using a spinning rod
Spot on Scott, great tips!
Do you tie a leader for a walking style bait? My hooks always seem to tangle on braid.
For sure bromontana
I saw a video of a dude who put two bobber stops on the line right against the eye of the bait and it apparently stops the line from getting caught in the hooks
Dang good video,man inlearn something from you and Halman everytime,I have been using it for my buzzbait and like it may as well try others with it to,great tips
Nice tip😁"Let's be honest "Todd. With out your tips we're just not advancing as Bass Anglers.😞
Good stuff Todd. Switched to braid on my topwater a few years ago. Saw a video Gerald Swindle did on buzzbaits and he says 18lb fluorocarbon. So, I am trying that but think I will go back to 30lb braid on my buzzers. Cheers 🍻
Great video, one thing that I have noticed is that with braid my poppers seem heavy in the nose and don't pop as much.
It shouldn’t braid floats if anything it should keep it up.
Makes sense, hate when that happens.
Everything you saying you right I have the same setup only one thing you're not mention the braided line with trouble hook when you walking the bait they get tangle that's not good when you using trouble hook with braided line lol
What 7’6” rod do you use for this?
I agree for some stuff but I throw topwater on mono 80% of the time because the lakes I’m around a lot of the topwater action are smallies and I have found that you land wayyyy more on mono
Oh yeah, Braid is a no brainer for topwater, only exception is a prop bait, it will get wrapped eventually. Mono literally gives me a headache now no joke and I fished nothing but mono for 20 years. Xplasma is my favorite but FX2 is very good on smaller jigs and texas rigs
Add 5-6 bobber stops and push them down in front of the prop bait.
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What about a floating jerkbait, like a rogue? I've been throwing mine on 20 lb mono, but it's the yo zuri sensei, very small diameter, it's very strong, but has the diameter of like 12 lb line or something like that. I've never broke one off on it, but just wondering if you would fish braid on that bait. It might be one of the exceptions, because even with mono I get bent hooks, I change the hooks out on all of my rogues. Fishing it on a 6'10" All Star topwater rod. It has a soft tip on it.
I always use Braid to a short mono leader of 20lb for my topwaters. Great vid brotha 👍
Same
If you throw mono after braid it feels like a rubber band
Thousand per cent agree! I like a longer rod as well with the exception being the smaller walking baits where I throw a 7'3" MH, Was that a SK top water prototype you shook?
I really enjoy the content you put out, I came across do you do weeks ago on here, And I’ve been watching a lot of your stuff since then. I absolutely love braid on all of my bait casters. I did try to go with Flurocarbon. This weekend up at a mountain lake And it felt so alien to me. So I ended up putting back on braid and then tying 20 to 30 foot of Flora carbon on each of my rods and that seem to fish a lot better for me. Do you see a reason why this would hinder anything or is it pretty common sensical And common for people to do that?
As Todd recommended in the talk. He is always going to go. With a longer rod. If you can use a longer rod. On this subject of length. It's a thing. I've had some experience of.
There is a lesson. To be learned here. And it brings in. The conversation about the length of rod to use. In relation to 'top water' fishing practice. And where I would. Locate this particular conversation. Is somewhere. Between the tutorial. By Randy Blaukat. On trolling motor management and skills. The use of the trolling motor. In order to end up. When it comes to the point. At which you are getting ready. To throw that perfect cast. At just the perfect place. On a shoreline. Or whatever it is. Using the trolling motor. To set yourself. Up for success (before you even throw your line and hook). Randy's most recent lesson. On that subject. I think. Is probably one of the most neglected aspects. Of all. In fishing. It's something that I've been hyper sensitive about. In relation. To my fishing. My entire life time. As we grew up. Doing things such as fishing top water dry flies. For species like brown trout. And we understood. It was a chess game. To maneuver oneself into a position. Kelly Galloup once described watching Rene Harroup in Montana I think. Or one of the best anglers. In that method. Who spent literally around a 'half hour'. Of time. To gradually wade his way. Up a river pool. Until he was feet away from a trout. One cast. On a dry fly. And the trout had taken it. Kelly had been sitting watching the whole thing. From bankside. And he said. It was like receiving. A master class. It stood out. Amongst all of the things. He had seen in a life time. Of seeing stuff. In fishing period (including watching Larry Nixon on television 'walking the dog').
This was the kind of world. I grew up inside. Looking at these kinds of anglers. Who to be honest. Were different from the rest of us. We used look at them. Like Luke Skywalker would look at Obi Wan Kenobi. Making a space ship float around. In the air. Or something. They were doing something. Working on the top water. That no one else did (the rest of us fished what were known as 'wet flies'). Underneath. And even that. Was not easy. There is an art. To fishing baits and lures. At depth in the water too. These 'top water' guys though. Could fish at times of the year. When the rest of us. Were basically 'out of business'. And that is how. I ended up by accident. Spending a lot of time. Just watching. And learning (because there was nothing better to do). At those times. Were were officially. Laid up.
To see a really good. Top water guy. Break a piece of water down (you think the fish have the odds all stacked in their favor). Until you see what one of these top water experts. Can really do. With a rod and line. That however. Was back in the eighties. And some of those guys. Had been born. Way back. As early as around 1900 some of them. They were still fishing. When I was growing up. One of them showed me a technique. For coaxing large migratory fish. Like Atlantic salmon. To take on top water. Which is a technique. That still accounts. For probably my best fish. Every single year. And I had recieved that lesson. From that angler. Way back in the late eighties. His technique. He had learned. Way back in the twenties and thirties. From guys. Who had come to Ireland. From the south of England. Who had been using it. In the 1870's and 1880's even. So yes. There's a long and distinguished history. To top water fishing. Across a lot of different species. Which is probably the reason that. When the 'internet' arrived finally. And one could see. Expert anglers fishing. I began to understand. How few of them. Considered their approach. To the fish. To be part of the 'value added'. In the whole fishing equation. Very much the opposite.
I read this in Obama’s voice because of all the periods lmao😂😂 seriously though... why so many periods
Some of the worst offenders. Are the anglers. Who grew up in parts of western Canada. Who really do measure water conditions. In terms of cubic feet per second. And they always measure. Their cubic feet per second. In those parts of the world. In the thousands and millions. They have to. Because the changes. Can be considerable. Between different times. Of the year. In parts of eastern Canada then. I've watched them fish. And approach the water. In the same way. As they would. As if. They were standing and wading. In the same water. As they are used to. In western Canada (where the Pacific ocean deposits gallons and gallons of rainfall along that western coast). Which produces rivers. Such as the steelhead rivers there. And then I look at the kayak boat angling. In the bass fishing. Part of the sport. And you see a similar thing. It's all about 'covering' water. Casting long casts. Throwing the bait way out there. As one peddles. And you wonder. When you look at all of it. Is there any hope left. For the skills and practice. Where the angler. Has a look at what they are dealing with. To begin with. And thinks about the water. And then selects. An avenue of approach. And at the right time. Makes the right cast.
Here in Florida all my reels have braid. Using anything else is just a guarantee for big disappointment
Good enough reasons for me, ordered :)
Ok I totally get the theory of using braid for top water, every positive point you said I’ve found to be spot on 100%, however I’ve been having an issue with braid when fishing a 1/2 oz jig and it’s happened several times this year when setting the hook on a fish the braid is breaking around the knot. I’ve tried tying several different types of knots and still breaking. And I’m not saying every bite is a giant or anything either. Im using sun line 50lb straight no fluoro leader. Could it possibly be a bad spool of line I got? It was really pissing me off so I went back to 20-25 lb fluoro and I fish eastern Oklahoma Grand, Gibson , Tenkiller etc. Any ideas or suggestions?
Good one Todd, but I would like to know your thinking why you take off the hooks on the top water baits. And yes I tournament guys do this but I'm still trying to wrap my head around this thinking.. fish 🐟 still have the bait in there mouths. Right?
I think it's because he is practicing for a tournament
Do you use a flouro leader and what knot do you use on tops?
I throw braid. Just playing devils advocate. It is a possibility that mono could get you 52 bites instead of 50
I realize this is unrelated. I need some help with my live well and keeping bass alive. I hate when bass die in my boat. Help!!!
I have that on the to do list, it’s coming
I have that on the to do list, it’s coming
@@toddcastledinefishing5924 DO IT
Are you using an additive? There's some good ones out there, but you can also use the brown granular mineral salt, it's sold at feed stores for cattle and livestock. All you have to do is put some in a zip lock and add a couple spoonfuls to the livewell. This is what Texas Parks and Wildlife biologist uses when they have to put bass in a livewell or they are transporting them for whatever reason. That's where I got this tip from, Todd Driscoll, biologist with Texas Parks and Wildlife.
Plasma is the best braid on the market
Braid digs down inside itself them u have a mess or u throw ur lure off jus like a rattle trap or arig you lose it when it snaps
Never done that, might be the braid your using.
Jbraid
Huge tip! All your points make perfect sense. One question though, what about throwing small poppers like a Rico in tight to cover going down the bank? Do you throw mono there at all or just lighten up your hook sets?
MUST use a mono leaders on some style tops or you will get the softer braid tangled in the front hook way to much. Like Poppers, walking, twitching. Straight pullins like Plopper, buzz, wake, jitter, rats just straight. Straight braid on a Frog. And yes lightt to MH rods depending on lure weight
I’m in a unique situation to disagree. I am fishing for walleye on a topwater plug . Cadence and pitch is everything. Braid has a tendency to overwork the lure when you are working it. Use a stinger hook on the end and problem solved. I’m throwing a pencil popper on 10 lb mono and land some rather quality fish on it. UA-cam: walleye channel or topwater walleye.