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  • @kaitlynmontgomery5289
    @kaitlynmontgomery5289 4 роки тому +20

    Is it sad that I learned more about economics from this guy then I did when I took the class in 8th/9th grade (I think it was junior high when I took the class)??? He explains it so well

    • @lucindamendiola8642
      @lucindamendiola8642 4 роки тому +2

      I agree with you watching all the old Educational shows Is better than Stuff they teach us at school

    • @yodservant
      @yodservant 2 роки тому

      Yes ..agreed!!

  • @evelynwilson1566
    @evelynwilson1566 2 роки тому +11

    He's forgotten that you need money in the first place - money to buy the land with the trees on, money to buy the axe. Then, you need training and skills - to know how to cut the tree down effectively and safely, to be able to build the house securely. This idea that everyone can succeed if only they work hard is setting people up for failure. It's fine when times are good and there are plenty of jobs but what happens when the factory closes? Then, what about those who work extremely hard for low pay? Or those who fall ill, and are unable to work, or are willing but there are no jobs? Yes, what the father is preaching can't be practised, but what the teacher preaches is not sustainable long term. Then he's reducing everything to a simple formula - if you work hard, you will be rewarded/if you're poor you just didn't work hard enough. It doesn't have to be one extreme or the other, there are middle ways.

    • @brianarbenz1329
      @brianarbenz1329 Рік тому +1

      Hank Aaron worked hard, was persistent and a lot more athletically talented that I am. But without a bat, he could hit no more home runs that I could.

    • @Tarotlynx
      @Tarotlynx Рік тому +3

      Agreed. So many people I've seen work hard and get nothing out of it, while some who do nothing sail right to the top - and I don't mean those on what remains on welfare.
      In order to get anywhere, you have to have money to start with, and most people don't.

    • @cindytrayer4279
      @cindytrayer4279 Рік тому +1

      @@Tarotlynxwrong. A perfect example is Ben Carson. Stop perpetuating victimization. Period.

    • @Tarotlynx
      @Tarotlynx Рік тому

      @@cindytrayer4279 For every one exception, there are fifteen people who prove the rule. I'm not perpetuating victimization; capitalism is. I'm just pointing out that capitalism is a total failure. It's not wrong to say people are being victimized by a rigged system when they are being victimized by a rigged system. What's next? We're all supposed to never mention that someone survived a car crash they didn't cause because being hit by someone else is victimization, too? No thanks.

    • @stratcat9432
      @stratcat9432 Місяць тому

      ​@@cindytrayer4279 Ben Carson! 😂😂

  • @sabrinamassie5606
    @sabrinamassie5606 9 років тому +26

    And this is the first step down the slippery slope to the mire we find ourselves in today.

  • @steveb9151
    @steveb9151 2 роки тому +7

    2:37 Coffee and sandwiches certainly loosened his lips. I bet he's a wild man at a cocktail party!

  • @gatorbyte5254
    @gatorbyte5254 4 роки тому +9

    I like the mother in this story. Not a pushover

    • @markfloors6988
      @markfloors6988 3 роки тому

      You must be a woman, making that comment!

  • @redwingfan9393
    @redwingfan9393 4 роки тому +17

    At least they're learning economics in high school, which is more than can be said for kids today.

    • @pennypay1
      @pennypay1 3 роки тому +2

      Do they no longer teach economics in high schools? That's terrible! I remember my one-semester economics class in 1989: supply and demand, free market economy vs. government-dictated economies, and the money management that comes with greater independence as teens. The need to teach cursive writing may be debatable now, as well as the value of learning or not learning certain languages. But a course in economics is more important than ever.

    • @redwingfan9393
      @redwingfan9393 3 роки тому +3

      @@pennypay1 I graduated in 1996, economics was not taught in high school. Thankfully micro and macro economics were required at the college I went to. It's such a basic subject, one year of economics should be part of every high school.

    • @tensugarcubes
      @tensugarcubes Рік тому

      @@pennypay1 yes thwy do wtf

    • @tensugarcubes
      @tensugarcubes Рік тому

      @@redwingfan9393 bro i think ur hs just sucked my hs had a semester of economics

    • @pennypay1
      @pennypay1 Рік тому

      Well, at the very least they should be teaching students how to fill out tax forms and how to plan a household budget. Regardless of students’ future occupations or types of families, taxes will be owed. And even wealthy people benefit from learning about investing wisely and budgeting responsibly so they avoid blowing through their money and will have enough for retirement. Teaching practical life skills is just as important as computer programming or physical education.

  • @abbadabbba232
    @abbadabbba232 2 роки тому +11

    Alternate ending:
    7:35 "Class, Gail is really quoting Karl Marx. And therefore, I am afraid I shall have to telephone the FBI. Meanwhile, Gail, it is my duty as an educator and a citizen to place you under citizen's arrest. Please come forward Gail and put your hands behind your back (cuffs her). Now, Gail, please accompany me to the principal's office so that we may telephone the FBI for further arrangements."
    (End of film).

    • @wraithstrongopark
      @wraithstrongopark Рік тому

      hahahahahaa nice!

    • @brianarbenz1329
      @brianarbenz1329 Рік тому

      I'll give this film credit. It was not the usual railing against _"Godless, un-American etc. etc. etc. communism."_ It was a critique of statist socialism on the basis of whether it is practical, not a screaming moral jeremiad against it.
      That said, it was one-sided and made it clear that the pro-Marx father was _wrong._ Not just overzealous, or hasty in his conclusion. But wrong. Everybody got that? And there's no room for alternate applications of pro-socialist ideas to that classroom, like research that has shown that a class studying together can bring up almost everyone's grades by enabling each student to do better on the tests themselves.
      So this film may sound more reasonable, but it's the same ole anti-commie message.

    • @Tarotlynx
      @Tarotlynx Рік тому +1

      @@brianarbenz1329 I noticed that right away, and quit watching it. Capitalism has far too many 'sins' under its belt to have any room to criticize socialism. And besides, the First Amendment was still a thing until W. and his war of terrorism.

  • @brianarbenz1329
    @brianarbenz1329 Рік тому +1

    The _real_ way education is done today is, "From each according to his debt burden, to each according to his family's history of donations to the college."

  • @jerryosullivan6783
    @jerryosullivan6783 4 роки тому +6

    On her next test, Mary scored 1350 points, and the other 19 students scored a little less than 8 each.

    • @coltonpetersen3065
      @coltonpetersen3065 3 роки тому +2

      if thats what they worked for thats what they deserve

  • @AynMax666
    @AynMax666 8 років тому +18

    Three problems: 0.) Noöne proximately lives or dies according to their grades, so it's not immoral to let an human being get a low grade, 1.) Getting a low grade doesn't directly reduce your chance of getting an higher grade later, where privation can easily spiral down so that (for example) a person who has been impoverished and suffered in body and mind can wind-up even less able to earn money*, and 3.) Regardless of the fairness or lack thereof for adults, dependent children rise and fall with their parents, meriting neither themselves...and even more subject to the possibly permanent consequences of want-low protein in childhood easily depresses mental performance for a lufe-time. *(Of course, some will always rise above, but when discussing society in general one must consider the rule more than the exception.)

  • @enzyme20056
    @enzyme20056 9 років тому +26

    The teacher ignored the second part of the statement "to each according to his needs". If a student needs a higher mark then they should receive a higher mark. Of course there is always a price to be paid, and if you aren't paying it then someone else is.

    • @carolesmith4864
      @carolesmith4864 5 років тому +3

      The only mark they needed was one high enough to pass the test. That's exactly what everyone got.

    • @sophierobinson2738
      @sophierobinson2738 3 роки тому +1

      Grades and enough to live on are two different things.

    • @jerrijames2224
      @jerrijames2224 Рік тому

      @@sophierobinson2738 the opportunity to make more should always be there or you will live on less and less when the people who convince you this is a good idea decide they’ll have yours. Communism leads to dictators. Look around at all the societies that tried this and you will see they failed.

  • @MeowingKittyCat
    @MeowingKittyCat 3 роки тому +14

    Go, Mom!! 👍 And I love the way the teacher handled the exam grades. Socialism isn't so great when YOU'RE the one being skewered by it. In the real world of socialism, only a few get to be the elite ("to each according to his need, except for me -- I'm an elite and get a whole lot more").

    • @MauraAnastasia
      @MauraAnastasia 2 роки тому +4

      Simplified argument for simple minds.

    • @johnbockelie3899
      @johnbockelie3899 Рік тому

      When I was in high school, in some classes students learned at their own pace. The mid 1970's.

    • @Tarotlynx
      @Tarotlynx Рік тому

      Counter-example. In high school, I learned this story that after the Soviet Union fell, its socialistic (in truth, mere state capitalist) government no longer controlled what could be sold in stores. So everyone could buy blue socks instead of just grey. And most of the students thought this was freedom.
      But there was a second part. The price of the blue socks was so high that Russians could never afford them, while they could still easily buy the same old grey socks. The point is, the freedom promised by the coming of capitalism is a cruel illusion. It doesn't work and it doesn't solve anything. It only creates a desire for what people cannot have that socialism doesn't create.

    • @elexiseuphoria
      @elexiseuphoria Рік тому

      Agree

  • @aLovelyAntihero
    @aLovelyAntihero Рік тому

    The chalkboard drawings change when he draws the axe, then later changes back when he busts out the poster.

  • @v.m.8472
    @v.m.8472 Рік тому

    Incentive is what is lacking when we pay the college tuition loans for some people while others have gone to war to get a degree. Wish our modern politicians could realize what will happen to the value of education.

  • @cindytrayer4279
    @cindytrayer4279 Рік тому +1

    This teaches a very important lesson: socialism ALWAYS FAILS!! too bad these progressives can’t see that.

  • @kenbob1071
    @kenbob1071 5 років тому +21

    So the poor farmer that can't afford a tractor can only feed a few people and thus will likely never be able to sell enough product to buy a tractor. He might be better off selling his meager amount of land to the rich farmer who can afford all the latest tools. The rich farmer can get even richer by then jacking up his prices after he drives others like the poor farmer out of business. Food prices increase for all, the poor farmers are out of work, and the rich get richer. It's a win-win for all.

    • @carolesmith4864
      @carolesmith4864 5 років тому +7

      The poor farmer can become a sharecropper, beholden for his entire life to the rich man. He should stay where he is, sustaining himself and his own family.

    • @dennishanson5254
      @dennishanson5254 4 роки тому +2

      Ken Bob I guess sort of like Walmart.

    • @debramccafferty2918
      @debramccafferty2918 2 роки тому +1

      There is more to farming than income. How about quality of life? Our children learned a lot about economics, love of family time spent together, cows being bred, giving birth and then milk to feed people, mechanics when something needed fixing, hard work, working together with each other and I could go on and on. The big, industrial farms pushed out the little farms that were in the family for many generations.

    • @tensugarcubes
      @tensugarcubes Рік тому +2

      @@carolesmith4864 is this sarcasm

  • @paulbroderick8438
    @paulbroderick8438 4 роки тому +12

    Irrespective, all societies should have meaningful safety nets to assist people who have fallen on hard times through no fault of themselves.
    How many well paying 'secure' positions have evaporated over the last decade? Yep, thousands! Being a dutiful consumer during the good times but you are on your own economically during the bad times is pure lunacy. In these times, no debt and being a minimalist is perhaps
    the way to go! I was brought up poor in Europe and therefore allows me view matters from a different perspective. End of rant!!!

    • @rfjohns1
      @rfjohns1 2 роки тому +1

      Ok. And if a person is a highly productive
      contributor to society, maybe creating thousands of jobs, they should be paid the same as someone who contributes very little.

    • @Tarotlynx
      @Tarotlynx Рік тому

      @@rfjohns1 Yes, we should in fact pay outsourcers considerably less, while paying those who are actually productive, the hourly labors, more than enough to cover skyrocketing rents.

  • @Superman20000
    @Superman20000 9 років тому +6

    thank you, nice video.

  • @williammcgrath9466
    @williammcgrath9466 2 роки тому +2

    An economic propaganda film.They’ve gotten much slicker.

  • @george7776
    @george7776 4 роки тому +10

    Sounds like many could learn from this today , about learning to work and take unintuitive, as well as not wanting to live off the government, or what they called socialism , if possible , sounds familiar , doesn't it ? So we should work and trust in God .

  • @abigailwrigley6462
    @abigailwrigley6462 3 роки тому +2

    But what was the progress of the class? Teacher didn’t mention that

  • @brianarbenz1329
    @brianarbenz1329 Рік тому

    The closing credits say: "All names and characters used and portrayed herein are fictitious and have no reference to any person living or dead.".. Oh, so this NOT is a denunciation of Karl Marx!

  • @Tarotlynx
    @Tarotlynx Рік тому

    The thing to remember about economics is that it's all just unproven theory, and mostly exists as justification for extreme wealth, with almost no attention paid to poverty and poverty wages. Its obsession with endless growth and no real acknowledgement that growth ends and decay begins means it's excellent for those who adore bull markets, but useless to everyone else.
    Economics isn't like biology, chemistry, or climatology. There is no hard, factual data to back it up like there is for them. They are hard sciences, while economics is a soft science, and one that loves to engage in a lot of fantasy and wishful thinking. Remember, only a few dissidents who didn't like the system even recognized there was a problem brewing in 2006-7, when it finally blew up in 2007. Economists almost all missed it, and it's not their only failure.
    There is truth to the argument that economists recognize the price of everything but the value of nothing.

  • @GroovyFeminist
    @GroovyFeminist 6 років тому +8

    Yeah... not sure that analogy works.

  • @steveb9151
    @steveb9151 2 роки тому +1

    3:05 ...and there it was....a great big ear!

  • @kathymack3791
    @kathymack3791 5 років тому +12

    Interesting. One has to keep in mind that this movie was produced during the time of the "Red Scare" following WWII. It would be interesting to show this to groups of HS students in various areas around the country and get their reactions.
    One major flaw in this film is the assumption that, given the choice, most people won't work; that people are inherently lazy. That isn't true. Most people want to be productive. Yes, incentive is one driving force but not the only. This movie strikes me as something Ayn Rand would approve of....

    • @8800081
      @8800081 5 років тому +1

      Look at colleges and society today! The Red Scare, as you put it, was completely valid. Senator Joe McCarthy was a prophet it should be on Mount Rushmore.
      Oh yes, Atlas Shrugged what's the best darn book and set of movies I've ever seen. Talk about a prophet, Ayn Rand was unbelievable.

    • @kathymack3791
      @kathymack3791 5 років тому +5

      Bite Me - Well, that’s one way to look at it. McCarthy is a stain on America.

    • @MaraBradley
      @MaraBradley 4 роки тому +3

      I wish I could believe that most people want to work. Where could one go to find statistics around this question?

    • @grzesiek1x
      @grzesiek1x 4 роки тому +1

      the problem is some people do but others don't ! And I have a proof from my personal experience!

    • @rossflecknoy74
      @rossflecknoy74 4 роки тому +1

      @@MaraBradley In John Bradford's Diary, "Of Plymouth Plantation", he describes what happened here. The first setup was we all work for each other, everyone can get what they need, no worries. Bradford noticed healthy men takin' days off and bein' all "it;s all good". Many died that winter, including Bradford's wife, I think. So, round two: the same area was redivided so that each family had an equal plot to be responsible for. They could keep all they came up with and sell/trade the surplus. With incentive engaged, much more was produced. Even Mom's would be out in the
      field, holding their baby, doing a little hoeing (the agricultural kind). This is how humans have always been, It's a feature and a flaw. Observe your friends. roommates, co-workers, partners in the PTA. Free enterprise channels these selfish energies into overall good for everybody.

  • @steveb9151
    @steveb9151 2 роки тому

    2:08 It might just be the coffee and sandwiches talking, but Mrs. Davis is interested in more than his economic theory!

  • @Mintzik
    @Mintzik 9 років тому +12

    But the test marks are a method of determining one's ability, and thus don't fall within the rule!

  • @spartaeus
    @spartaeus 5 років тому +11

    There are elitists under both systems. But only under capitalism does the common man have the opportunity to provide for a better life for his family and himself if he puts forth the effort. Under communism only those at the top benefit, while everyone else stagnates. It's like the class system in some countries in which if you are born into the lower class, you are not allowed to advance. And if you are born into the upper class, you have privileges that the common workers or peasants can never have or will be allowed. Communism doesn't level out the field, it permanently creates a larger group of peasants and a tiny group of wealthy privileged. Look what happened in Venezuela and Cuba and the Soviet union. And now american college students are being misled into believing that communism will benefit them.

    • @kenbob1071
      @kenbob1071 5 років тому +2

      "And if you are born into the upper class, you have privileges that the common workers or peasants can never have or will be allowed."
      Sounds just like America...lol.

    • @Tarotlynx
      @Tarotlynx Рік тому

      No such opportunities exist. If they did once, they're dead and gone now. Capitalism is merely feudalism without the kings and queens to regulate it.

    • @jerrijames2224
      @jerrijames2224 Рік тому

      @@kenbob1071 if they apply themselves they would. People don’t try to get into this country from crap poor nations because they can excel over there. That’s America. For now.

  • @ZiggyWhiskerz
    @ZiggyWhiskerz 2 роки тому

    Real equality isn't equity. Equality > equity.

  • @jonnyvassvag5787
    @jonnyvassvag5787 6 років тому +3

    Where is rest of the movie?

  • @W_T23
    @W_T23 Рік тому

    How can we still believe on that crap?

  • @steveb9151
    @steveb9151 2 роки тому

    11:30 Bushwa? Oh, Mother...bite your tongue!

  • @joep8787
    @joep8787 2 роки тому

    Instead of grades, let's use money. Without the government taking money from those who earn more and giving some of it to those who earn less, those who don't earn enough to put food on the table or a roof over their heads become homeless and starve. That's the rationale behind socialism. We must take from those who earn more and give it to those who earn less. Maybe those who earn less are unable to find a job that pays well in the field that they studied in college. Isn't that why we as a country have decided to compensate those people who borrowed a lot of money for a college education that hasn't paid off? Maybe we should have a guaranteed minimum income. Like Social Security except that it starts at age 18.

    • @jerrijames2224
      @jerrijames2224 Рік тому

      Why should you ever be forced to pay for someone else. Giving it is different but being forced?

    • @joep8787
      @joep8787 Рік тому

      @@jerrijames2224 That's what Social security is all about. It's a transfer payment from those who have to those who don't. It's not voluntary.

  • @lisaklassen8347
    @lisaklassen8347 3 роки тому +3

    And to complete the cycle, the San Diego Unified School District, is no longer assigning grades based on mastery of material, completion of material, and attendence/behavior... We've come full circle. Universal basic income, no incentive to do well in school, ignorance and a society distracted by technology and pleasure, never knowing enough to question authority and too afraid to bite the hand that feeds them. Things like UBI and the War on Poverty make it difficult to ever actually get out of poverty and get ahead. When you've got a safety net like that, you'll never try to fly. Spend some time with Thomas Sowell and Yuri Bezmenov.
    In the words of the World Economic Forum, "You'll have nothing and be happy."

    • @sophierobinson2738
      @sophierobinson2738 3 роки тому +1

      Who is getting universal basic income?

    • @jerrijames2224
      @jerrijames2224 Рік тому

      @@sophierobinson2738 with the idiots schools produce now it clear that’s what their trying for. No incentive to do anything but give me something for it.

  • @ReyBanYAHUAH
    @ReyBanYAHUAH 3 роки тому +1

    Always remember to repent of your sins (sin is transgression of YAHUAH’S LAW: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, & Deuteronomy) And Have Belief On YAHUSHA HAMASHYACH. HE Died and Rose three days later so that you can be forgiven of your sins!
    HE Loves you! Come to HIM!🙂🙂🙂

  • @MeowingKittyCat
    @MeowingKittyCat 3 роки тому

    14:20 Bingo!

  • @ANIND123
    @ANIND123 3 роки тому +2

    ahh yes the errors of communism..

  • @moviestarmemories630
    @moviestarmemories630 6 років тому +5

    And this literally happens in college today...not really fair is it?

    • @48laws45
      @48laws45 4 роки тому +3

      LMFAO you're hilarious never once have I been graded Less in college because somebody else scored less, you just like to make noise because the words you assemble together don't make any linguistic or practical sense.

    • @48laws45
      @48laws45 4 роки тому

      The crack your smoking has got you spouting off pipe dreams my friend I think you should look into that LOL he said literally

  • @steveb9151
    @steveb9151 2 роки тому

    11:34 Dad's feeling pretty frisky....but it looks like he's gonna be taking a cold shower tonight.

  • @fulviobadalotti8602
    @fulviobadalotti8602 3 роки тому

    Please traslation in italian

  • @luisreyes1963
    @luisreyes1963 4 роки тому +4

    This far-right palaver was suitable during the Reagan era, but it won't wash in today's society.

    • @charlottekey8856
      @charlottekey8856 3 роки тому +6

      Yes, the far-left palaver of the dominant narrative is definitely more suitable. Professors teaching the evils of America demand those American listen to the palaver while paying several years salary for what can now be gotten on the internet.

    • @cindytrayer4279
      @cindytrayer4279 Рік тому +1

      and look how far this country has fallen.

  • @karaamundson3964
    @karaamundson3964 2 роки тому

    O no! Karl Marx!

  • @steveb9151
    @steveb9151 2 роки тому

    5:57 This scene is awfully dull. What it really needs is a boy in the back of class making armpit noises.