i feel for her , just a kid , and in shock at the birth then because she had no one with her she made a mistake and cut the cord wrongly and she died , she was very young and was not married , so shameful then , its hard to think what she went through
The incredible power that came from her personal tragedy is so beautiful! She made sure no-one was as alone and vulnerable as she was at 17. What a resilient woman she must have been!❤
Danny Dyer’s deep “rabbit hole” exploration of his ancestry is probably the best case ever covered by this series. Started out with the woes of his dirt-poor immediate ancestors... and suddenly finding he’s the direct descendant of kings.
@@shellc6743 You seem to have a bone to pick with the show with their digging into people's ancestries and discovering they're descended from royalty. Why do you care so damn much if it isn't that big of a deal to you. TShis is the fourth comment I've seen from you about this. It's ridiculous.
@@MSW96 No he’s right, if your family have been in the UK for hundreds of years, you have a high chance of being related to Royalty in the UK, if your of European origin, your related to the Emperor Charlemagne ,if you have Scottish ancestry your related to Robert the Bruce, one in two hundred men are related to Genghis Khan, so basically if your of Uk and European descent wherever you were born, you are or have a high chance of being related to royalty etc, the more you go back in time the less people there are.
@@jemmajames6719 I never said he wasn’t right, did I? That wasn’t my point. He’s left the same sort of comment under different comments. It’s over the top. If he doesn’t like it, why watch this series at all?
Oh my god- made me tear up when they talked about her helping the other women and never touching the cord. She didn’t want any other woman to be alone during that ever. God, how heartbreaking.
Tearing up listening to Danny realising that the poor young woman may have not knowing how to deliver her own baby, or how to care for them immediately after birth. How tragic and horrible a person to experience, and him to really willingly grasp that. Absolutely breathtaking.
I feel like, as a woman, I imediatly understood what she was charged with and why, while he took awhile to get there, and his first thoughts were that she may have killed the child. I'm not blaming him, or saying that isn't a possibility, but I think it might say something about how boys are raised and women are raised, as to what thoughts pop up first when you read that criminal record.
A lot of servant women were impregnated by their employers or their employers families. She probably made sure to learn how to properly deliver a baby because of this tragedy.
I'm glad he didn't just give up and say I can't handle coming from crooks and scoundrels. He really wants to see them as people and not just be judging on the merit of the surface of the actions alone. He wants to try and empathise.
I try to take a lot of what I find when looking at ancestors with a huge helping of salt. I don't know what perils they were living through or if the report is necessarily true. The shame of being an unwed mother and a teenager had to be scary.
We always forget what hard lives that are Ancestors lived just to survive , wars ,plagues and famine and just living of the land to make it ,one interesting fact when you get to your 8th great Grandparents your 256 line of family to follow ,and they will take take you all over the world
I like how this show features location changes and involves meeting different experts for source material. There is a similar show in the U.S., called Finding Your Roots, but its subjects sit across from the presenter and look through an album, which isn’t as dynamic.
Maybe the geography makes it easier to film like this in the UK? It would probably be a _way_ more expensive show if they tried to film on location like this in the US.
I always say people are people...same as yesterday and before that....they worried, they sometimes got themselves in situations that they maybe had a hard time getting themselves out of, financial worries, class oppression, family problems....etc....A lot of time, when doing genealogy research, people get so worried letting the skeletons out of the closet or speaking of something taboo...and I say, it's nothing new...happened since the beginning of time....
I don't understand. Is he jumping to the conclusion that she murdered her newborn? Seems to me the baby was likely stillborn and her crime was trying to bury the body without declaring the birth. Not sure why he would think it was infanticide.
@@MichaMontreal not odd at all, unfortunately, it happened a lot with poor unmarried women. Abortion wasn't legal, so if they couldn't arrange an illegal one, that's what happened sometimes.
@@MichaMontreal In the past infanticide was used by many as a form of bc, so him thinking it was infanticide is not odd at all. It was such a common practice that there made laws against it.
Omg I'm so sorry my heart goes out to you.. In my own jernoury I'm finding ancestors like this to, I've cried my eyes out to. There is sick things that's taken place to.
My nan had a stillborn baby. Nobody knew about it until my mum was pregnant with me and my brother. My brother is called Ian and when they told my nan what my brother was going to be called she told my dad and mum that the stillborn was called Ian. She never talked about it not even when me and my brother were older, but then it's not something you really talk about.
You at least have the next generation parents to look for, and see if there were more siblings. Your 2x great grandmother had a seriously rough time not knowing what to do with a newborn. Some cultures taught the girls what to expect and what to do, but most generally they never figured to face those things alone. Midwives, neighbors, someone would have been helpful. It's sad that she never mentioned it, ever again. What did her parents think? Where were they? If she was married, where was the husband? Maybe, she had no one, at all. That would have been so scary sad.
This , sorry IMO is so inappropriate for him to be telling this to his 92 yr old relative. She could have reacted very badly to this news. Just because you find out family secrets, doesn't mean that's to be broadcast, especially to one's elders. This was her mother. I'm glad it turned out that the info she gave him was good and she seemed to handle his story with gracious attitude. These are delaicate matters, family history.
I totally agree with you. I guess it would have been broadcast on TV, but still it seemed so blunt. She was clearly caught off guard. I was waiting for her to keel over!
I thought the same thing! She could have lived out the rest of her life without knowing that, no need to thrust that burden on her. I'm nowhere near her age and I'm not sure I'd want to know that about my late mother now.
Sometimes these things help you understand who you parent was, why they were emotional about certain things and you can empathise. While your parents were growing up, they were raising you.
That is a name that comes from French, but it would be from centuries ago, I would expect. It sounds like Norman French connected to maybe a Norman Irish family. It has to do with a battle cry "Boutez en avant", kind of like keep pushing on, don't stop fighting. Supposedly some lords called the De Barry lords used such a war cry. One of my Irish friends has the last name "Prendreville", which means "Take the city". I wouldn't think there would be any recent French connection, just a centuries old Norman one.
Frightened teenage girl cry 😢. That's probably the master of the house s baby. I m so sorry she faced such a thing. Alone giving birth and tryjng ti hide it, cleaning up the mess after. Heartbreaking
It almost makes me sick a seventeen year old little girl's life as an independent adult is over before she's ever even got a chance to get started, sixteen when you consider when she likely was impregnated. Oh come on, not to a child. I really wanted to grow to love Danny Dyer, I don't want to find out stuff like this.
And how is it his fault? I'm rather confused as to what you're saying, because it's not as if he knew this was going to take a dark turn. I mean he likely was hoping it wouldn't take a dark turn.
Not only was the baby illegitimate, but she decided to hide the little body, I'm assuming in hopes that people wouldn't realize that she had given birth out of wedlock or perhaps in fear that people would think she had killed her own baby.
Always remember to repent of your sins (sin is transgression of YAHUAH The Father In Heaven’s LAW: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, & Deuteronomy) And Have Belief On Yahusha The Messiah. HE Died and Rose three days later so that you can be forgiven of your sins! HE Loves you! Come to HIM🙂🙂
i feel for her , just a kid , and in shock at the birth then because she had no one with her she made a mistake and cut the cord wrongly and she died , she was very young and was not married , so shameful then , its hard to think what she went through
When she revealed that Mary Anne delivered all of the babies in the family I burst into tears. This is by far the most powerful one of these I’ve seen
The incredible power that came from her personal tragedy is so beautiful! She made sure no-one was as alone and vulnerable as she was at 17. What a resilient woman she must have been!❤
Danny Dyer’s deep “rabbit hole” exploration of his ancestry is probably the best case ever covered by this series. Started out with the woes of his dirt-poor immediate ancestors... and suddenly finding he’s the direct descendant of kings.
Most of us are descended from Kings and Slaves.....
@@shellc6743 You seem to have a bone to pick with the show with their digging into people's ancestries and discovering they're descended from royalty. Why do you care so damn much if it isn't that big of a deal to you. TShis is the fourth comment I've seen from you about this. It's ridiculous.
@@MSW96 No he’s right, if your family have been in the UK for hundreds of years, you have a high chance of being related to Royalty in the UK, if your of European origin, your related to the Emperor Charlemagne ,if you have Scottish ancestry your related to Robert the Bruce, one in two hundred men are related to Genghis Khan, so basically if your of Uk and European descent wherever you were born, you are or have a high chance of being related to royalty etc, the more you go back in time the less people there are.
@@jemmajames6719 I never said he wasn’t right, did I? That wasn’t my point. He’s left the same sort of comment under different comments. It’s over the top. If he doesn’t like it, why watch this series at all?
@@MSW96 I haven’t seen the other comments, but I didn’t see anything wrong with the one I’m commenting on.
Talk about turning an absolute trauma into a blessing for so many families. Maryanne took a horrible experience and used it to help many others.
Oh my god- made me tear up when they talked about her helping the other women and never touching the cord. She didn’t want any other woman to be alone during that ever. God, how heartbreaking.
These people are real salt of the earth. Good, honest people who lived hard lives.
The historian was very sweet explaining things to Danny, bless his heart ❤️
Tearing up listening to Danny realising that the poor young woman may have not knowing how to deliver her own baby, or how to care for them immediately after birth. How tragic and horrible a person to experience, and him to really willingly grasp that. Absolutely breathtaking.
The poor are always punished for just that!
This bit actually got me. He sounds quite authentic when he says I want to love these people. I don't want to find out these things.
Digging into family past can be pretty painful. Ignorance can truly be bliss... unfortunately.
I feel like, as a woman, I imediatly understood what she was charged with and why, while he took awhile to get there, and his first thoughts were that she may have killed the child. I'm not blaming him, or saying that isn't a possibility, but I think it might say something about how boys are raised and women are raised, as to what thoughts pop up first when you read that criminal record.
Yep
A lot of servant women were impregnated by their employers or their employers families.
She probably made sure to learn how to properly deliver a baby because of this tragedy.
The Guvernor ,thems what did er in.I erd.
My Grandma said, "When you look into your family history, everyone is gonna find a few horse thieves." 😘
'I cant read it! Its driving me mad!' Me studying history at uni for 3 years.
Made me laugh so hard! 🤣🤣🤣
Ha ha!!!
Why would you spend 3 years studying a subject that drives you mad?
@@RevJamesCostello because reading old documents is just a small part of it. Learning an instrument is maddening but still worth it!
@@pumpkinlyd4409 well said!
"I don't wanna be a celebrity" That woman is just darling, I immediately want to have tea with her.
Absolutely heart breaking for this young woman. I am glad he didn't laugh it off like some of the others who find out this stuff in their ancestry.
I'm glad he didn't just give up and say I can't handle coming from crooks and scoundrels. He really wants to see them as people and not just be judging on the merit of the surface of the actions alone. He wants to try and empathise.
gentle eyes some of those people laugh from being buncomfortable nobody has ever laughed at a dead baby though I have watched a lot of these
I love the aunt! Great old lady with a sense of humour.
She looks good for her age.
His grandmother looks great for 92.
He has inherited her pain you can see it on his face.
Humans do that, I don't think we can even help it.
I try to take a lot of what I find when looking at ancestors with a huge helping of salt. I don't know what perils they were living through or if the report is necessarily true. The shame of being an unwed mother and a teenager had to be scary.
Man, the family resemblance is strong.
08:50 Danny certainly has a way with words and breaking news to people.
Ha!! True!!
We always forget what hard lives that are Ancestors lived just to survive , wars ,plagues and famine and just living of the land to make it ,one interesting fact when you get to your 8th great Grandparents your 256 line of family to follow ,and they will take take you all over the world
We all have skeletons in our closets, if you look deep enough.
Poor girl 😢 dear love her and at only 17 my heart goes out to her 😢
I like how this show features location changes and involves meeting different experts for source material. There is a similar show in the U.S., called Finding Your Roots, but its subjects sit across from the presenter and look through an album, which isn’t as dynamic.
Maybe the geography makes it easier to film like this in the UK? It would probably be a _way_ more expensive show if they tried to film on location like this in the US.
There is a US version of this show and they do move around and talk to different experts.
sometimes what is on paper only explains not the total truth. we sometimes interpret what we see in a negative direction.
Dannys cousin - spitting image of the lady in the photograph!!
I always say people are people...same as yesterday and before that....they worried, they sometimes got themselves in situations that they maybe had a hard time getting themselves out of, financial worries, class oppression, family problems....etc....A lot of time, when doing genealogy research, people get so worried letting the skeletons out of the closet or speaking of something taboo...and I say, it's nothing new...happened since the beginning of time....
Best story ever. Unfortunately amazing
She’s 17. Of course she didn’t know what to do. Bless her heart. I believe it was a tragic accident. If she was alone think of how scared she was.
It was a different and desperate world in the London slums of the 1800’s. You can’t compare it to our soft emotionally led existence today.
There is a small town named Buttevant in Co. Cork, Ireland. There may be a connection.
EVERYONE HAS A PAST.
Everyone...those free are the ones who remember and are determined to learn from it.
I don't understand. Is he jumping to the conclusion that she murdered her newborn? Seems to me the baby was likely stillborn and her crime was trying to bury the body without declaring the birth. Not sure why he would think it was infanticide.
@@lh8593 Right. I did. My comment was about him jumping straight to infanticide. Seems like an odd assumption to make.
@@MichaMontreal not odd at all, unfortunately, it happened a lot with poor unmarried women. Abortion wasn't legal, so if they couldn't arrange an illegal one, that's what happened sometimes.
@@MichaMontreal In the past infanticide was used by many as a form of bc, so him thinking it was infanticide is not odd at all. It was such a common practice that there made laws against it.
He deserves the crown that lad!
Omg I'm so sorry my heart goes out to you.. In my own jernoury I'm finding ancestors like this to, I've cried my eyes out to. There is sick things that's taken place to.
My nan had a stillborn baby. Nobody knew about it until my mum was pregnant with me and my brother. My brother is called Ian and when they told my nan what my brother was going to be called she told my dad and mum that the stillborn was called Ian. She never talked about it not even when me and my brother were older, but then it's not something you really talk about.
In that photo you can see that his grandma is traumatised by something
My 2nd great grandfather and his ancestor where neighbours in Back Church lane.
His where at 35 and my lot where at 39.
Small world
Wooow
WHERE shouldn't be anywhere in what you wrote
Baddscorpio ... Lol, especially as an English-speaker, living in England.
You can sure see the family resemblance, it's quite obvious.
Well done bro
Looks like Syds Cafe in Only Fools and Horses! 🇮🇪
Interesting how he first cracks his bones on the finger, then arms and then he taps his hearr
The subtitles on these clips are so messed up...
Ohh that great grandmother, Sylvie, what a lovely woman
You at least have the next generation parents to look for, and see if there were more siblings. Your 2x great grandmother had a seriously rough time not knowing what to do with a newborn. Some cultures taught the girls what to expect and what to do, but most generally they never figured to face those things alone. Midwives, neighbors, someone would have been helpful. It's sad that she never mentioned it, ever again. What did her parents think? Where were they? If she was married, where was the husband? Maybe, she had no one, at all. That would have been so scary sad.
The court document said she was unmarried. 😢
I love me some Danny Dyer.
can we have Olivia hussell s WDYTYA? she is English born in Argentina. am extremely curious about her genealogy. thanks.
This , sorry IMO is so inappropriate for him to be telling this to his 92 yr old relative. She could have reacted very badly to this news. Just because you find out family secrets, doesn't mean that's to be broadcast, especially to one's elders. This was her mother. I'm glad it turned out that the info she gave him was good and she seemed to handle his story with gracious attitude. These are delaicate matters, family history.
I totally agree with you. I guess it would have been broadcast on TV, but still it seemed so blunt. She was clearly caught off guard. I was waiting for her to keel over!
I thought the same thing! She could have lived out the rest of her life without knowing that, no need to thrust that burden on her. I'm nowhere near her age and I'm not sure I'd want to know that about my late mother now.
Sometimes these things help you understand who you parent was, why they were emotional about certain things and you can empathise. While your parents were growing up, they were raising you.
They talk to them in advance and prepare them. They know wbst they are doing.
That is a name that comes from French, but it would be from centuries ago, I would expect. It sounds like Norman French connected to maybe a Norman Irish family. It has to do with a battle cry "Boutez en avant", kind of like keep pushing on, don't stop fighting. Supposedly some lords called the De Barry lords used such a war cry. One of my Irish friends has the last name "Prendreville", which means "Take the city". I wouldn't think there would be any recent French connection, just a centuries old Norman one.
Excellent comment.
Yes, thank you for that insight.
It doesn't say that she killed the baby. Could the baby have been stillborn? Or could it even be a right by her master
Pamela Homeyer the baby bled out because the umbilical cord wasn’t tied
Pamela Homeyer the baby bled out because the cord wasn’t tied
It says that she didn't tie off the cord and the baby bled out accidentally. A horrific tragedy
Remember he also descended from kings.
Most of us are ..... they make a huge deal of it on this show ..... but's not a big deal.
Heartbreaking dang I cried for her poor girl may she be reunited and at peace with her child wow I was born in 1960 love silvi.
You know what would make me laugh? Is that once the camera's stopped rolling his accent would change to that of Lord Grantham....
Ohh bless him he looks so angry
Frightened teenage girl cry 😢. That's probably the master of the house s baby. I m so sorry she faced such a thing. Alone giving birth and tryjng ti hide it, cleaning up the mess after. Heartbreaking
Fascinating
He talks funny. But then again he’d probably say the same about my accent too. 🤣
He has a cockney accent.
Propa geeza.
It was quite normal for those days.
I could barely understand the aunt dialect. I wish there was better subtitles. Although they speak English its a very strong dialect.
It almost makes me sick a seventeen year old little girl's life as an independent adult is over before she's ever even got a chance to get started, sixteen when you consider when she likely was impregnated. Oh come on, not to a child. I really wanted to grow to love Danny Dyer, I don't want to find out stuff like this.
And how is it his fault? I'm rather confused as to what you're saying, because it's not as if he knew this was going to take a dark turn. I mean he likely was hoping it wouldn't take a dark turn.
Does it note that the infant was murdered ?what is the shame except a Illegitimate baby?
Not only was the baby illegitimate, but she decided to hide the little body, I'm assuming in hopes that people wouldn't realize that she had given birth out of wedlock or perhaps in fear that people would think she had killed her own baby.
Is it just me, or is he rather LOUD? Seems like they could hear every word all over the cafe without trying.
They whole time i was thinking of Popular and call the midwife and then at the end they said she lived in Popular haha
That’s sad
That poor woman, how terrible. To think this is now happening in the US
So sad
1:09 Omg 26 march my brithday
Omg me too
@T Fox omg but omg you omg aren't omg mature omg enough omg to omg ignore omg some omg dumb omg comment omg that omg doesnt omg affect omg you
Age: 2 minutes. OMG That is dark
....it was a tragic accident- she was too young and had no helo
Ta luuv!
Auntie sounds like Catherine Tate Nan. Lovely ladies 💚
First of all who is Danny Dyer. Why is his shirt and jacket too small.
ashanti Frazier think he is in a soap
ashanti Frazier ... Wikipedia is your friend.
Wow
Ay ay what's up cousin ?!?!
✌️👊
My Mothers Family were from Whitechapel...
I don’t think I would tell the old lady about the baby.
I don’t think he should have told the great-Aunt.
She would have seen it on TV. Thinks its best coming from him, he started to dig snd found skeletons "no pun intended"
Такого ужасающего акцента английского языка я ещё не слышала. И это говорит актер! Даже знакомые слова при произнесении им превращаются в кашу.
This story is one like so many lately. The cheerleaders hiding their pregnancies and hiding the body after giving birth alone.
hannah casier it’s what shaming causes.
Maybe I would not off told the great aunt
MALCOLM SMITH
Good God.....who's translating the words on these series? Ridiculous level of inaccuracy. Just sayin.....
The auto-subtitles for anything Danny Dyer is half the fun!
Is.really
Royal
Doesn’t she look like Amelia Dyer?
Always remember to repent of your sins (sin is transgression of YAHUAH The Father In Heaven’s LAW: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, & Deuteronomy) And Have Belief On Yahusha The Messiah. HE Died and Rose three days later so that you can be forgiven of your sins!
HE Loves you! Come to HIM🙂🙂
Can't have Poplar without midwifery...
Pinché macho
Why on earth would yoy wnat to yell such anold lady about this?? There s no earthly reason JMJ
Can barely understand a word they say.
Baaataaaavaaaant.
I wonder if we're related maybe in some distant way. My DNA is 94% European. Last name is DYER
Can’t stand the guy
She was in court for that on my birthday 😕