10 Tips for Wide Panels that Stay FLAT

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  • @woodwhisperer
    @woodwhisperer  4 роки тому +17

    Have a tip not covered in the video? Share it here!

    • @MrBonners
      @MrBonners 4 роки тому +7

      Trick I was told by a old furniture builder in my youth. Hand pressure the glue surfaces together, hold and wait a few seconds and then pull them apart, wait a few seconds and then clamp up . Don't know if it was true then or now with modern glues but, he said when you pull them apart you cause a flash -off of gas and air flush jump starting the curing and blow off a significant about of moisture of the glue and then clamping up gives a quicker and better(?) curing. You ever hear that?
      You did not review the latest thing...4 way bar clamps, auto-centering of pressure. Easy DIY custom made sizing as required. Could have some thin wedges on hand for under the bars to bias position a work piece if required.
      I made a small about 30 inch set (3) and some hardwood flooring as a test panel, 15-ish inched wide . Worked great.

    • @chrisvanmill6020
      @chrisvanmill6020 4 роки тому +4

      Make sure to always have nerdy memorabilia in your shop! A Happy shop is a Nerdy shop.

    • @tenaciousjeebs
      @tenaciousjeebs 4 роки тому +3

      @@MrBonners Some instant-hold adhesives recommend the same thing so I don't think it's limited to older glue types.

    • @MrBonners
      @MrBonners 4 роки тому +1

      @@tenaciousjeebs this was when there was pretty much only basic epoxy, yellow and hide available to the consumer, woodworker hobbyist.

    • @ckent1975fm
      @ckent1975fm 4 роки тому +7

      Just the tip.....?

  • @echtervogel
    @echtervogel 4 роки тому +81

    That fact about narrower panels needing more clamps blew my mind. It explains so much! Thanks for that!

  • @navardal
    @navardal 4 роки тому +45

    You're the premium youtube creator in woodworking.... There's a lot of good channels that covers topics in a more than adequate way but then you release a video and we all realize how it should have been done.... Good work man!

  • @marthag8888
    @marthag8888 Рік тому +2

    I’m still pretty new to woodworking and have recently decided to do it more often. I’ve had a few questions that I would normally ask my dad, but he passed away last year. When I stumbled across this video, it was such a comfort to know there’s someone else out there who can teach me these things since my dad can’t. Thank you

  • @jonathanwiggill8242
    @jonathanwiggill8242 Рік тому +2

    Learned more watching just half of this video than I did watching twenty full videos on other channels! You are a fine teacher sir!

  • @theosmits1141
    @theosmits1141 4 роки тому +21

    This video is so educational its like something you would have to pay for. Really good stuff

  • @dkbuilds
    @dkbuilds 4 роки тому +4

    Great video. I appreciate your taking the time to draw diagrams, take extra explanatory shots, and generally provide a high production quality for a video with "simple" content. I watched all the way through and learned something because of your effort. Thanks!

  • @markblanchard5228
    @markblanchard5228 3 роки тому +1

    I have watched countless videos and have never signed in. Had to do it for your channel to say Thank you! By far one of the best woodworking channels on the Tube. I have learnt so much from your videos. Keep up the great work!

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  3 роки тому

      Thank you Mark! We really appreciate it

  • @n8sot
    @n8sot 3 роки тому +1

    Wow!!!! This was the most informative 15 minutes!!!!! All the hours upon hours of other vids, don't come close to what I just got out of this one 15 min vid!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!

  • @TapiocaSteam
    @TapiocaSteam 4 роки тому +7

    Not sure if I have just missed it in previous videos, but I love the fact that you have "Back to the Future" memorabilia in the back. The Mayor Goldie Wilson and the OUTATIME license plate are great! I always love the information you give and you keep it interesting.

  • @butiwantlove
    @butiwantlove 2 роки тому

    The whisper has spoken. Thank you for sharing your knowledge! It has helped my projects tremendously.

  • @BeaulieuTodd
    @BeaulieuTodd 2 роки тому

    This is possibly the very best, to the point video I’ve ever seen. Not only from you, but ever. I’ve been woodworking for … ten, fifteen years? I learned a lot here that I will apply.

  • @shaynesabala
    @shaynesabala 2 роки тому

    I’m new to all of this and I have to say, your videos are absolutely the most helpful of any videos I watch. I research to death, and never find so much useful information as I do in your videos. Thank you so much, now I need to go prop up a door panel I glued together this evening. Ha, keep up the good work and I hope you are rewarded, as you deserve it, sincerely.

  • @williambutler3695
    @williambutler3695 4 роки тому

    This is one of your most educational videos. That diagram with the 45* clamping pressure was fantastic and your explanation of sanding before glue fully dries was revealing. This video was definitely worth 15 minutes of my time.

  • @redbaron6334
    @redbaron6334 Рік тому

    Marc, Great stuff. I am new as an avid woodworking hobbyist. So many important factors in panel assembly. You turned on several new lightbulbs for me...your retired Airline Captain fro a previous comment years ago. Thanks.

  • @michelehowe6853
    @michelehowe6853 4 роки тому +1

    I am happily married, but I "heart" you Wood Whisperer, in a purely platonic, wood encyclopedia kinda way. Thanks much for this video.

  • @TheMikeNan
    @TheMikeNan 2 роки тому

    This is one of the best videos on how to create flat edge-glued panels. Thanks for sharing.

  • @lesstovall4814
    @lesstovall4814 4 роки тому +4

    This is a PhD. course in gluing. Bravo sir.

  • @pppaiste
    @pppaiste 2 роки тому

    Had to keep rewinding because I got distracted by all the amazing stuff in your backdrops. Especially loved the "ban" hammer!

  • @soWEBKINZ
    @soWEBKINZ 3 роки тому

    This was definitely one of the better quality videos I've seen on gluing up panels. Very good!

  • @OneManBandWoodworks
    @OneManBandWoodworks 4 роки тому +9

    The tenth tip was one I worked out over time and frustration of having to re-sand already finished table tops, then I ran my palm over a few commercially made tables in shops and found the same issue so I felt better.

  • @djbowe
    @djbowe 3 роки тому

    you have the heart of a teacher/mentor. Great video

  • @l.rod2827
    @l.rod2827 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for the information, very useful... I'm relatively a new wood worker and about to do my very first glue up of probably the worst type of lumber material, construction lumber 2x6. The worst part is I don't have a jointer, but do have a planner. I did run the boards through the planner on a piece of very straight 3/4" mdf board applying small shims and hot glue anywhere the 2x6 board were raised. Took a bit of work but got it pretty darn flat. What I didn't do was count the times I ran them through the planner after I removed the 2x6 from the MDF boards and ended up taking measurements until they were all the same thickness ( I'll be counting in the future). Another problem was each board (4ea) is 60" long, and in order to joint the edge I had to use my longest level as a straight edge against my table saw fence. That was also tricky and took a little effort until I got the hang of it. I did pick the straightest boards and made sure there were no pits. I also acclimated the boards stacked of 1x2 sticks with weights on top for about three weeks. I took some random moisture reading from each board with a Klein moisture meter and read between 8.5 to 9.5. Next week I will attempt to do my glue ups, wish me luck...

  • @paulkramer4176
    @paulkramer4176 3 роки тому +3

    good concise information. I've been working with wood for almost 60 years. All your points were well made, and not overly verbose. Of course us skilled workers get our own habits and preferences, but these were good. Because of glue improvements and changes, there are some different ways to handle things now, but basically, I'd agree. I appreciated the comment to wait a few days before sanding panels. I've often seen folks rush things a bit too fast and want to get that project to go together too quickly. I often have several pieces in work at the same time, so as to allow for drying to take place. I've seen panels where the biscuits used telegraphed thru to the surface because the panel was sanded within a day or two of glue up. Thanks

  • @UberSlop
    @UberSlop 4 роки тому +5

    Marc, I'll have to watch this a second time, I didn't absorb anything you said. All I could think about is The Z-Man Sandwich at Joe's Bar-B-Que. Next time you're in Kansas City, you and your posse indulge in a casual BBQ feast, curated by me. Burnt ends appetizer's at WOODYARD BAR-B-QUE, a fourth-generation barbecue joint that's also a working wood yard cutting & selling hickory, oak, apple, cherry, pecan and more to surrounding pitmasters since 1913. Then, swing thru Boulevard Brewing Co.'s beer hall to cleanse pallets with fresh, flavorful drafts including seasonal offerings and unreleased test beers, en route to the mecca of mid-west BBQ deliciousness, Joes KC. 100% my treat! (great video, i had a 'light bulb' moment when you described keeping track of layout jointing faces of two boards to be glued together)

  • @ProjectAnubisUSA
    @ProjectAnubisUSA 3 роки тому

    I dabbled in wood on an off making various furniture bits. I’m looking to build more and these tips will help get me off to a great start and save some of the headaches of learning the hard way! Thanks

  • @ravenheart1439
    @ravenheart1439 2 місяці тому

    Yes, that jointer trick I been telling guys on some groups to do that, once I learned that, my anxiety on jointing and the fence disappeared...that's a great trick for sure...

  • @stevenozer9901
    @stevenozer9901 Рік тому

    Very helpful video! It’s called woodworking because it’s all about working the wood.

  • @somicotube
    @somicotube 4 роки тому +1

    After all these years following you I always keep on learning something important. Thank you!!

  • @chrissimonds733
    @chrissimonds733 4 роки тому +2

    Hey Marc....
    I’ve been watching your content since you started ... I love it... I hope people realize what an in depth lesson in wood science/working they just got ...
    You rock

  • @HowIDoThingsDIY
    @HowIDoThingsDIY 2 роки тому

    That veneer example was super cool and really shows how wood can move. with variable humidity.

  • @MeansWoodshop
    @MeansWoodshop 4 роки тому +4

    I gotta agree with you on a few things. I usually always just glue one side of a board and have never had a joint fail. Along with not worrying about the orientation of the end grain. These things have never seemed to affect any of my projects.

    • @RobinDobbie
      @RobinDobbie 4 роки тому

      I usually glue one side, too. Gluing two sides allows you to use less glue, which could be important if supplies are limited and getting to squeeze out is an issue.

  • @schoolhousemodern
    @schoolhousemodern 4 роки тому +1

    Mark; this was one of your best explainers yet. Second only to my fav, the cross cut sled.

  • @EPeltzer
    @EPeltzer 2 роки тому

    I've actually been doing this for a while with decent results, but it's certainly worth watching every minute of this because experience has only taught me about 30% of these points.

  • @154Jamesp
    @154Jamesp 4 роки тому

    This might be your most informative video ever. This would make a great shop poster for reference before gluing up a panel.

  • @gracenjuguna7292
    @gracenjuguna7292 4 роки тому +1

    I'm new to woodworking and loved all your tips. Thanks

  • @henryrossouw930
    @henryrossouw930 2 роки тому

    Great to be reminded about these small little things that add up to huge problems in the end.Thanks for sharing.

  • @AndyMatalo
    @AndyMatalo 3 роки тому +1

    Pure gold! Still one of the best out there.

  • @umakemesick2
    @umakemesick2 4 роки тому +1

    I did my first panel glue up this past weekend. It came out ok, so all this info is very much appreciated going forward . Thank you!

  • @SpencleyDesignCo
    @SpencleyDesignCo 4 роки тому

    Great job Marc! You've been kicking ass with these fire videos recently!

  • @BeaverCraftTools
    @BeaverCraftTools 4 роки тому

    So many useful tips! Thanks for sharing.

  • @micahhowell4432
    @micahhowell4432 Рік тому

    What a great video!! I wish I would’ve seen something like this 10 years ago!

  • @markstrandoutdoors
    @markstrandoutdoors Рік тому

    this is excellent. just getting back into woodworking and wanted a refresher on gluing up panels. learned a lot!

  • @mountainlightwoodcraft
    @mountainlightwoodcraft 4 роки тому +1

    Always the best content on the Web, Marc.

    • @mountainlightwoodcraft
      @mountainlightwoodcraft 4 роки тому

      Some famous person once said (I'm sorry I don't remember who) "that they were considered a genius because they made so many good decisions. What they don't realize is that they're based on some really bad decisions." I think we're all guilty of that, and I want to thank you for helping to minimize the number of bad decisions we have to make in woodworking.

  • @mikehill3426
    @mikehill3426 4 роки тому +5

    Good stuff. I've been at this a while and never considered narrow boards needing more clamps. Makes sense!

  • @joeframer9642
    @joeframer9642 4 роки тому +2

    Great tips, I’m a framer,not a woodworker, but I’m learning, thanks👍🇺🇸

  • @basementbrew
    @basementbrew Рік тому

    Wish I could give this more than one 'Thumbs Up'.

  • @davetarrant6888
    @davetarrant6888 4 роки тому

    What a great video packed full of useful info. I am still and maybe always will be a novice but I learn so much watching your videos that I might be able to pull off a decent panel glue up.

  • @WoodworkingBarcelona
    @WoodworkingBarcelona 4 роки тому +1

    Very useful tips. Will keep those in mind. Regards!

  • @normolson1
    @normolson1 4 роки тому +1

    WOW !! what a wealth of knowledge here, thank you for sharing.

  • @eldonhinck1487
    @eldonhinck1487 Рік тому

    Best video I've seen, thank you so much for the time and tips.

  • @DennisNestor
    @DennisNestor 4 роки тому +1

    Always hear that woods like a straw. But when you mentioned would being like a sponge it really clicked. Definitely a reminder to keep your woodstock off the shop floor.

  • @automaticprojects
    @automaticprojects 4 роки тому +1

    Wow. This video is terrific.

  • @ralieghwhite9076
    @ralieghwhite9076 Рік тому

    Your opening statement was proven true for me right now… on my first project ever. 😂

  • @RyanWattersRyanWatters
    @RyanWattersRyanWatters 3 роки тому +4

    Anyone else watch videos like this and get envious of anyone with that many parallel clamps? Those things aren’t cheap…

  • @pnwgrown_360
    @pnwgrown_360 2 роки тому

    Flipping fantastic video man. So informative and still not dumbing it down. I appreciate you

  • @WoodenCreationz
    @WoodenCreationz 4 роки тому +1

    Great video Marc!!! I have been down all these roads!!!!!

  • @poodelek5063
    @poodelek5063 3 роки тому

    Great video with lots of useful tips. Thank you
    Just one suggestion regarding tip no.9.... Instead of using a stretch wrapping I recommend putting panels in a plastic bag and seal it. It can be re-used which makes it much more environmentally friendly

  • @rick91443
    @rick91443 4 роки тому

    The best video on this subject I've ever, ever, EVER seen...cheers...rr Normandy, Fra.

  • @garygaleski7669
    @garygaleski7669 2 роки тому

    He provided a lot of useful information. Thank you

  • @erichdelossantos4701
    @erichdelossantos4701 3 роки тому

    this video is like a science class which is totally cool :)

  • @CodeFoxAus
    @CodeFoxAus 4 роки тому +1

    Great video thanks Marc

  • @rorycasey9190
    @rorycasey9190 3 роки тому

    Great information and I loved how you described everything in detail with the backing of science and logistics. Great execution of getting that important info about tabletops across; It sure helped me with the desk tabletop I built for my wife. I’m only a novice woodworker and self taught by great teachers like you! Keep em coming man.

  • @J.Allen_
    @J.Allen_ 2 роки тому

    This was VERY VERY helpful. I appreciate the effort you put into this. Thank you.

  • @jim7smith
    @jim7smith 3 роки тому

    Superb commentary as always. I have been watching your videos for years, finally subscribed...

  • @Jacko539
    @Jacko539 4 дні тому

    Great video. I learnt so much from this. Thanks 🙏

  • @tallyman15
    @tallyman15 4 роки тому

    Great tips. Never can stop learning.

  • @mogasesegopotje8483
    @mogasesegopotje8483 Рік тому

    I'm leaving this space very educated. Thanks very much❤

  • @abolsoud
    @abolsoud 3 роки тому

    Very informative! I had a joined board that kept cupping after I hand planned many times. Ended up just redoing it

  • @joser1219
    @joser1219 4 роки тому +1

    This was very informative and I learned a lot of new things. Thanks for the lesson.

  • @herbkempf9939
    @herbkempf9939 4 роки тому +1

    Great video.

  • @GlassImpressions
    @GlassImpressions 4 роки тому +1

    Great tips Marc!

  • @MrAirbleed
    @MrAirbleed 4 роки тому

    You deserve much more subscriber mate.

  • @JTWoodworks
    @JTWoodworks 4 роки тому +1

    Great tips Marc. Thanks for sharing

  • @gillessophie6158
    @gillessophie6158 4 роки тому

    So well explained things I knew but didn't understand why. Thanks so much. Greetings from france. I have not all the langage to express how much I ' m learning with you some small details I like to understand about wood. I can work wood with advices but I like more work wood with understandings these tips, advives, methods.

  • @onlythejeffness
    @onlythejeffness 4 роки тому

    The "pressure cone" explanation really makes sense. I like it.

  • @Polemistis93
    @Polemistis93 3 роки тому

    Thank you for the super in-depth breakdown!

  • @Maverick8t88
    @Maverick8t88 4 роки тому

    Dude, I love all the Back to the Future paraphernalia scattered around your shop! Also, man, I needed this info! I joined two pieces of Baltic Birch butcher block for a friend of mines countertop. Had to do it 2x because I applied too much pressure unevenly. Had to cut it apart and do it again. 🥴

  • @jonstuartjon3
    @jonstuartjon3 Рік тому

    Incredibly helpful! Thanks, Mike.

  • @royharvey1862
    @royharvey1862 3 роки тому

    Very helpful! Concise, well thought out advice. Keep up the good work!

  • @UndertheWaterDesign
    @UndertheWaterDesign 4 роки тому +1

    Quality video. Thank you.

  • @TheGordog
    @TheGordog 2 роки тому

    Thanks. Excellent practical advice as always.

  • @piratepoppy5548
    @piratepoppy5548 4 роки тому +1

    Fantastic, well explained video 🤗

  • @g.fortin3228
    @g.fortin3228 4 роки тому

    Thank you for the glue and sanding tips ! great stuff here

  • @roguewriter6781
    @roguewriter6781 4 роки тому

    Thank you - This was very informative. Videos from experts like yourself are so useful !
    I've also personally never had a glue joint fail and only ever apply to one surface - never subscribed to the theory behind gluing both. Cheers :)

  • @tinycuisine6544
    @tinycuisine6544 4 роки тому

    So many good tips at once! Subscribed

  • @hollandcustomwoodworking5932
    @hollandcustomwoodworking5932 2 роки тому

    So much great information here! Thanks for sharing

  • @adrianluica6960
    @adrianluica6960 4 роки тому

    Thak you. Your videos are really helping. I admire your work. Great job. You are professional in all things you do.

  • @pb77
    @pb77 9 місяців тому

    Definitely leave your glue ups before sanding. I did some maple panels with dominoes. I actually noticed the spots where I used dominoes were high, So I sanded them flat. A week later I could see the dents where each domino was

  • @markkielman4777
    @markkielman4777 2 роки тому

    Great tips!!! I am a noob when it comes to woodworking and you explained things very well. Also, nice shirt! I go there every time I get to KC, love the original ’Oklahoma Joe’s’ lol

  • @norm_olsen
    @norm_olsen 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome advice! Learned a truck-load on this one!

  • @juanssawshammers5014
    @juanssawshammers5014 4 роки тому +1

    Muy Bien!... Very well presented, learn a lot today... looking forward for more tips. Thanks so very much

  • @df9177
    @df9177 4 роки тому

    Quick tip which i've been doing for 25yrs which my grandfather taught me. Scrape the glue off in 5-10 mins (depending on the glue) and then throw some fine sawdust of the wood your working with over the joints, rub it into the joints but don't blow it off as the sawdust will absorb any excess glue and stop it staining the timber. Sand it away and you'll have a perfect joint.

  • @jeffrudolph1802
    @jeffrudolph1802 4 роки тому

    Very helpful. A couple of questions if you have a moment. When using cauls what do you tighten first, the cauls or the clamps? How long do you leave the clamps on?

  • @aakburns
    @aakburns 3 роки тому

    This is a very helpful video. Thanks.

  • @mikesimmons7539
    @mikesimmons7539 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the tips , they will come in handy soon .

  • @odarkthirtywoodworks3543
    @odarkthirtywoodworks3543 4 роки тому +1

    Marc, Thank you so much, some really cool tips that I will put in my toolkit!

  • @ac311205
    @ac311205 4 роки тому

    Well said, I’ve always felt like twisted boards are the absolute worst to work with and should be avoided whenever possible.

  • @nicolaspillot5789
    @nicolaspillot5789 4 роки тому +1

    Great video, especially the "classification" of tips, from what you recommend, then hhat is useful, then what is not really needed. It gives some balance to other advices about panel glue-ups i have seen. Thanks !

  • @craigm8884
    @craigm8884 4 роки тому

    You have a great show. I learn a lot off this show great work