I Got A Philosophy Degree And Only Make $20,000

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  • @justinredman9463
    @justinredman9463 5 років тому +5019

    "I didnt think, therefore I'm broke." - Philosopher Chris

  • @KnowledgeIsPower19
    @KnowledgeIsPower19 5 років тому +2217

    College is such a confusing time for students.. and most kids have no idea what they want to do, and the bad part is that mistakes made during this time have huge price tags on them.

    • @prncessbaby16
      @prncessbaby16 5 років тому +95

      Yeah most of us learned that the hard way. :/

    • @QueenRissa_34
      @QueenRissa_34 5 років тому +176

      Absolutely true!!!! And even worse when you have parents who have never gone to college & know nothing about Financial Aid & Loans!!!!

    • @ajbluebird7741
      @ajbluebird7741 5 років тому +83

      My son is having this current issue. 18 years old, graduating senior and doesn’t know what he wants to major in or do at this moment. I’m suggesting to him to go to community college, save money, and not incur a lot or any debt at all.

    • @MasterBetty545
      @MasterBetty545 5 років тому +70

      @@ajbluebird7741 My parents pushed me to go into community college too at the time. Hated every minute I was there. If I could do it over, I'd rather go into a trade for a few years THEN go to college after maturing and having a better idea of what jobs/degrees are out there.

    • @regularity2556
      @regularity2556 5 років тому +78

      @@ajbluebird7741 If he doesn't know what he wants to do, don't put him in any college at all. Let him work and live and figure out what he wants to do. After a year or two he should be able to make a decision.

  • @InvestingHustler
    @InvestingHustler 5 років тому +4242

    You know when your parents told you to follow your dreams. Well make sure that dream can actually pay the bills

    • @KaileiPaige
      @KaileiPaige 5 років тому +49

      Investing Hustler ain’t that the truth. 😬

    • @trebmaster
      @trebmaster 5 років тому +350

      "Don't follow your passion. Follow opportunity, and bring your passion with you." - Mike Rowe

    • @patty109109
      @patty109109 5 років тому +35

      Investing Hustler this degree let’s him pay his bills but only in his dreams

    • @jonrita2344
      @jonrita2344 5 років тому +59

      your advice only works if you're a meaning loser who's only purpose in life is to make the most money. sure, if you have no substance just do whatever pays best, but for a person with any charakter its just awful to lessen your purpose to doing just that, especially in times where there are so many possibilities for realizing your individualism and changing the world in your own way

    • @sebas8225
      @sebas8225 5 років тому +12

      @@trebmaster Opportunity is key, I´ve met many in university that dont take said opportunities when they were presented out of lazyness and those guys look aimless.

  • @7ru7h0n3s7yf0r3v3r
    @7ru7h0n3s7yf0r3v3r 5 років тому +3145

    Want to know the difference between a pizza and a philosopher?
    A pizza can feed a family of four.

  • @billgateskilledmyuncle23
    @billgateskilledmyuncle23 5 років тому +805

    So that statue of a man with his chin on his hand was a philosopher trying to figure out how he was going to pay his bills.

  • @rickm6076
    @rickm6076 5 років тому +2481

    My brother started a philosophy degree, and he promptly changed majors when a professor quipped “ok. We all know why we’re here right?...So that we have something interesting to talk about in the unemployment line.” Yikes!

    • @kaiw.s6053
      @kaiw.s6053 5 років тому +225

      Philosophy is actually pretty good degree for law majors, it's not too hard so you can keep your GPA high, and is good prep for the LSAT. And in law your GPA can determine what you make long term bc the better the school the better the pay.

    • @blakeb4583
      @blakeb4583 5 років тому +80

      K W.S yeah, but that’s contingent that you get into a good law school

    • @kaiw.s6053
      @kaiw.s6053 5 років тому +56

      @@blakeb4583 well with all the lack of stem classes you should have alot of time to study for the LSAT. And considering that the LSAT and ur GPA is the 2 major things they looks at I think any person who really applies themselves can get into a good lawschool. Ofc that won't be the case if you just strive to be mediocre

    • @blakeb4583
      @blakeb4583 5 років тому +33

      @@kaiw.s6053 I would actually say your major plays a bigger role than your GPA because a lot of law schools will weigh a lower GPA STEM major more than a higher GPA philosophy major, and generally the easier degree you have the higher you have to get on the LSAT. But your LSAT score is the most important thing.

    • @kaiw.s6053
      @kaiw.s6053 5 років тому +22

      @@blakeb4583 Law schools don't put that much stock into which major you pick as long as you did great in it. Sure a 3.6 in chemical engineering will be looked at slightly different than a 3.6 in English but at the end of the day that's not what they really care about. I would definitely agree that the Lsat is above all though

  • @esteemedfustilarian
    @esteemedfustilarian 5 років тому +974

    My pastor got his MA in Philosophy-his go-to quip: “I wanted to be the guy in the back of Taco Bell saying, ‘What *IS* a taco?’”

  • @brucewayne3892
    @brucewayne3892 5 років тому +2258

    Sounds like a nice honest guy. Wouldn't do well in finance

    • @Aman-rs4uz
      @Aman-rs4uz 5 років тому +92

      Bruce Wayne 😂😂😂😂

    • @tyjohn4779
      @tyjohn4779 5 років тому +122

      Getting a “finance” degree won’t do well in finance either way.

    • @bwilliams6755
      @bwilliams6755 5 років тому +19

      @@tyjohn4779 elaborate please. I'm compsci major right now. Have been interested in finance for a little bit.

    • @donny83
      @donny83 5 років тому +72

      ​@@bwilliams6755 You can take a chartered financial analyst (CFA) exam without a degree in finance, where as for accounting designations, there are pre-requisite courses. I hope that kinda explains the situation.

    • @bangladeshirealtor
      @bangladeshirealtor 5 років тому +44

      B Williams the best most lucrative jobs in finance away from executive level are in sales and tech fields lol a finance degree is pretty worthless , major in IT or Comp Sci if u can’t sell

  • @ASouthernBoyCanSurvive
    @ASouthernBoyCanSurvive 3 роки тому +106

    90% of people in finance jobs do not have a finance degree. Don’t waste the money, just get your foot in the door man and do a good job. A philosopher should be able to visualize that and make it happen.

  • @wmurray003
    @wmurray003 5 років тому +668

    Man... my grandparents rarely bought me birthday gifts... this guy got a free college degree.

    • @robynjoy910
      @robynjoy910 5 років тому +70

      Musa I of Mali and picked philosophy.

    • @theoutlet9300
      @theoutlet9300 5 років тому +5

      My grand parents have given me 50 cents (at most) till date

    • @mike88wt
      @mike88wt 5 років тому +10

      And he wasted it

    • @larrybud
      @larrybud 5 років тому +40

      Dumb grandparents. Grandpa should have told him no way he's paying for a philosophy degree

    • @zaidchalabi1599
      @zaidchalabi1599 5 років тому +12

      Ur grandparents maybe didnt have money. His had money. Mine paid for my engineering degree as well as 15k into my MBA and company i work for paid the rest
      They have money and they are awesome

  • @ChrisInvests
    @ChrisInvests 5 років тому +1038

    It's hard for kids to decide a major at 17 or 18 which is why many of them want to go back for a different major 🤷‍♂️

    • @BigRed2
      @BigRed2 5 років тому +41

      t This is why the kid shouldn’t be picking and the parent should be picking 5 majors and they can pick from the list

    • @PineappleGrenade84
      @PineappleGrenade84 5 років тому +51

      Parents should help them pick it

    • @KaileiPaige
      @KaileiPaige 5 років тому +14

      Yep I encourage people to get through their gen eds while they really figure out and discover the other possibilities.

    • @dogguy8603
      @dogguy8603 5 років тому +26

      @@BigRed2 i would only agree with that if the parent was the one paying 100% of the tuition, and parents dont always understand the future of our economy, and might overlook CS degrees

    • @dogguy8603
      @dogguy8603 5 років тому +7

      @Kenfinex cs degree will be better, AI is going to take over engineering jobs, heck they already have robots that can take over trade jobs

  • @bellaholmes5499
    @bellaholmes5499 5 років тому +1351

    A philosophy is only really good for a stepping stone degree, most often for law school. On its own it's useless. Poor guy, I wish him the best luck with his Finance degree.

    • @NoName-zk7rz
      @NoName-zk7rz 5 років тому +49

      Good to know, I intended to go to law school with a philosophy major.

    • @Mike-tj3yc
      @Mike-tj3yc 5 років тому +48

      if you are just ur average joe and have no other skills ya philosophy degree is pretty useless by it self

    • @dutchray8880
      @dutchray8880 5 років тому +44

      I hear there's big money in running a philosophy shop.

    • @andresrojas7924
      @andresrojas7924 5 років тому +58

      Yep. Unless you actually want to teach it. Getting a PhD in philosophy and teaching it will get you 60,70,80k or 90k a yr but if you like it you could be happy. But a bachelors in philosophy is virtually useless

    • @CommanderXED
      @CommanderXED 5 років тому +27

      The Military will take him and give him a skill.

  • @alans1965
    @alans1965 5 років тому +526

    if you have a 4 year in philosophy, go to law school. they have the highest LSAT scores out of any major. i did a 4 year for philosophy, then 3 years of law school, now im 27 making 250k a year. do it man, change your life.

    • @percyastronautstatus.8780
      @percyastronautstatus.8780 5 років тому +31

      Can I BORROW like 4000...... I'm in law school too....help a fellow future lawyer out......ok??

    • @piraat070
      @piraat070 4 роки тому +75

      @@percyastronautstatus.8780
      Never EVER beg thats embarassing

    • @cahierdepluie9590
      @cahierdepluie9590 4 роки тому +40

      @@piraat070 NEVER ever not do something because YOU FEEL that it's embarrassing, don't you think that this kind of mindset will massively hold you back long-term ?
      (I'd rather be a successful or rich embarrassment without regrets that at the very least tried, then a proud but unsuccessful old folk, that later regrets not having even tried because I was too afraid of being laughed at)
      Edit: just to note, I do somewhat agree with, don't beg, put in the work and use all the tools you have to earn it and then be proud of what you earned! Though I still hold firm on what I said about not letting potential embarrassment hold you back 💛

    • @RedAssassin274
      @RedAssassin274 4 роки тому +7

      Still gotta study for that LSAT though, history major here going to law school, got an alright score first time around two weeks ago, now I'm gonna shoot for the 170 next test I take. Just gotta learn HOW to think

    • @arias7977
      @arias7977 4 роки тому +14

      You cant just say go to law school, not everyone wants to be a lawyer, and not everyone has the money to pay for law school

  • @ginnyweasley3515
    @ginnyweasley3515 5 років тому +398

    So glad I stumbled upon Dave Ramsey's channel! I changed my major from sociology to nursing just in time!

  • @trabajarhablar
    @trabajarhablar 5 років тому +383

    I have a relative with a philosophy degree and he clears well over 6 figures a year. You need to be strategic in your career planning and network as well. A philosophy degree isn't worthless but you need to be able to convey to employers that you learned critical thinking and problem solving skills from your degree.

    • @iDigress77times
      @iDigress77times 4 роки тому +73

      I am totally with you on this one. You have to make your luck. You can't just sit around, and be like I got a philosophy degree.

    • @TheMarioMen1
      @TheMarioMen1 4 роки тому +10

      What’s his career in? Like specific job title cause I don’t know any that pay 6 figures to think unless it’s a think tank in DC but they usually want Political Science not philosophy

    • @_VISION.
      @_VISION. 4 роки тому +38

      @@TheMarioMen1 *facepalm* I don't think he's emphasizing that he's getting paid to do Philosophy. He's showcasing an example of someone who was able to leverage their formal knowledge in Philosophy within the job market and do well.

    • @muffinmixish
      @muffinmixish 4 роки тому +36

      @@_VISION. this is true. One if my friends did international relations for his undergrad and worked really hard to get into Yale and got a master's degree in philosophy and religion. He has been working for Google for about 3 years now. The point is that he was able to show he had a valuable set of skills that he could leverage and was simply smart.

    • @_VISION.
      @_VISION. 4 роки тому +6

      @@muffinmixish That's awesome. What does he do at Google?

  • @LittleHatori
    @LittleHatori 5 років тому +71

    Glad the caller had a good attitude about doing this u-turn career wise. Alot of ppl r stubborn and in denial about the time they spent in college & their degree...

    • @heidithaw1072
      @heidithaw1072 5 років тому +4

      Tori Ellise. I have a history degree. I ended up monitoring clinical drug trials. I worked as a mental health worker and worked with a physician who did research. Now I would do it differently but no experience is wastedm

    • @crimsonite1524
      @crimsonite1524 5 років тому +4

      yes, he can actually turn his life around by the age of 30, instead of watching it go down the hill of poverty like most would do and blame the government or everything. with a new beginning you can be late ...but overtaking is allowed in life

    • @LittleHatori
      @LittleHatori 5 років тому +6

      @@crimsonite1524 exactly. I believe C.s Lewis said it best, "And if you have taken a wrong turning then to go forward does not get you any nearer. If you are on the wrong road progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive man. There is nothing progressive about being pig-headed and refusing to admit a mistake. And I think if you look at the present state of the world it's pretty plain that humanity has been making some big mistake. We're on the wrong road. And if that is so we must go back. Going back is the quickest way on."

    • @infamouscrusader3363
      @infamouscrusader3363 5 років тому +1

      I know. Most people get in denial and try to be positive about the stupid decisions they make rather than taking responsibility for the problem they put themselves into.

  • @thomasreedy4751
    @thomasreedy4751 5 років тому +700

    So how many jobs did he apply for?
    Has he looked at other potential career paths? My concern is that he is putting too much blame on a piece of paper for his lack of success.
    Getting another piece of paper is going to put him in the same entry level grind when he graduates.
    People with unrelated degrees can easily make 50k in an office work environment.

    • @qh8761
      @qh8761 5 років тому +41

      I agree -- you must be strategic and open. I double majored in Music and Spanish and when teaching in my field of studies didn't work out for me financially, I explored other industries. None of the jobs (or at least what I accepted) paid less than $15/hr. Within a few yrs, the jobs I qualify for now in the corporate law/contracts industry are in the 6-figure arena, even though I am not an attorney.
      That being said, if he is dead set on moving to finance, best of luck in his studies!

    • @jasontaylor8283
      @jasontaylor8283 5 років тому +6

      @TheLifeBidder not sure about the sales job...you don't need to have business acumen to sell....you need to have the courage to pick up the phone and cold call...if the company is any good they would provide the necessary sales training

    • @Well_Ill_Be_GodDangled
      @Well_Ill_Be_GodDangled 5 років тому +14

      @TheLifeBidder Really? I worked as an analyst in a post trade clearance and settlement firm and I didn't have a related major at all. It depends on who you work for.

    • @MrMusclekid88
      @MrMusclekid88 5 років тому +1

      Jason Taylor aaaaand that’s why sales people have such a bad reputation. Of course you need business acumen. If you want to sell cars no you won’t need much but let’s face it, you’re not getting into any coveted sales positions without a business background. Try telling that to salesforce, ibm, microsoft, adobe, etc etc

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 5 років тому +3

      retail sales to customers perhaps. business to business, not so much the case, esp large businesses tend to be very conservative, risk averse, only wanting specific degrees without proven resume.

  • @thechrisonater0514
    @thechrisonater0514 5 років тому +801

    Dave: "How much do you make a year?"
    Caller: "Bout 20 grand"
    Dave : "How much is a years worth of school?"
    Caller: "Bout 20 grand"
    Dave: "Whats your name again?"
    Caller: "Bout 20 grand"

    • @MJVelascoSalvador
      @MJVelascoSalvador 5 років тому +8

      thechrisonater0514 did we watch different videos? In the one I watched the caller was able to answer all of Dave’s questions

    • @alecideas
      @alecideas 5 років тому +51

      Malcolm Joseph Salvador r/whooooosh

    • @guitaro5000
      @guitaro5000 5 років тому +6

      I laughed out loud!!!!

    • @V8SplashMan
      @V8SplashMan 5 років тому +1

      lol

    • @GreasyReecey
      @GreasyReecey 5 років тому

      Yeah that's how I felt

  • @matthewmartin7639
    @matthewmartin7639 5 років тому +30

    My parents gave me a list of majors and said either pick from this list or go to a trade school. It was : Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Aerospace, Computer Science, Business, and Pre-Med/Pre-Vet. I chose Aerospace, got my B.S., got my Aerospace Mechanics license, did all of school without going into debt, and I'm 24 making $50,000 a year in my first job. I'm not bragging but saying that yes, Mom and Dad do indeed know better. If it were me I would've gone into music or even worse some sort of art. In hindsight that was the best come to Jesus talk I ever had with my parents.

  • @lepermessiah2011
    @lepermessiah2011 5 років тому +486

    "I majored in philosophy..."
    *Dave's face

    • @austinreynolds2554
      @austinreynolds2554 5 років тому +4

      Juan T 🙄😂

    • @infamouscrusader3363
      @infamouscrusader3363 5 років тому +14

      That is my reaction when I hear someone majoring in a useless major.

    • @kevin1seven923
      @kevin1seven923 5 років тому +3

      @@infamouscrusader3363 like psychology

    • @infamouscrusader3363
      @infamouscrusader3363 5 років тому

      @@kevin1seven923 Exactly. That is one example.

    • @infamouscrusader3363
      @infamouscrusader3363 5 років тому +4

      @@timo.10 Currently, I am majoring in English. I know, it was a pretty stupid idea but now I am half way int the program I feel like I might as well finish. If I could switch majors, I'd more likely switch to Computer Science or Information Technology, especially now since I am looking into Technical Writing.
      Right now, I am teaching myself some Programming Languages and Software Tools. I'm also thinking about taking some Computer Science courses in the future and possibly a minor but I'm not sure because most people in the subject who I spoke to said it can all be taught online and courses in websites like Git Hub.
      If I can't get into Technical Writing, my next plan is go to a Trade School or Community College and learn Web Design so I can get into Web Development while writing novels on the side (the real reason I majored in English and then I realized that was not such a good idea).

  • @clericstorm2009
    @clericstorm2009 5 років тому +169

    The question the caller needs to answer is what is the end goal job he wants and how will a finance degree help him get there. The caller seems to think just getting a finance degree will automatically get him a better job. If he has no end goal he will be right back where he is.

    • @ECmom
      @ECmom 5 років тому +6

      clericstorm2009 Good point!

    • @CroisMoi
      @CroisMoi 4 роки тому +2

      I am surprised Dave did not bring that up. I’m afraid this guy will get another degree without a goal in mind.

  • @reign0ffire88
    @reign0ffire88 5 років тому +160

    Good for him realizing his mistake. Good luck sir and work hard hard for your finance degree. You won't regret it one day.

    • @Schmexy
      @Schmexy 5 років тому +6

      I wouldn't even call it a "mistake", philosophy is an extremely good thing to understand in order to develop a deeper understanding of the world. However, yeah it's not very smart to study philosophy to earn a good income and pay bills.

    • @Schmexy
      @Schmexy 5 років тому

      @Josh S True.

    • @user_abcxyzz
      @user_abcxyzz 5 років тому +2

      First of all there are no mistakes, only lessons. Second of all, you need an English course. "You won't regret it one day"

    • @MrTee12
      @MrTee12 5 років тому +1

      E..A..G..L..E..S

    • @oliverweldner8704
      @oliverweldner8704 5 років тому +2

      Not true. The median income of a philosophy degree is 45.000$. Thats a good average. According to glassdoor this is better paid even than degrees like chemistry, public relations or even psychology. And there are a lot of rich people that have studied philosophy. Peter Thiel for example studied philosophy (yea amongst others, but still).

  • @christ2664
    @christ2664 5 років тому +56

    what i like about dave is he doesn't shame people for pursuing his passion vs everyone in the comment section

    • @dannysze8183
      @dannysze8183 4 роки тому +6

      most people are shallow.

    • @imhere8775
      @imhere8775 3 роки тому +2

      are you the Chris from Delaware?

  • @Willifordwav
    @Willifordwav 5 років тому +153

    Even with an unrelated degree, he could still use his degree as leverage to be something better than 20k. People at McDonalds make more than that smh 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @ES1Baller
      @ES1Baller 5 років тому +19

      Dave Odd Exactly. He could even get his teachers certificate and make an instant 37,000 a year

    • @bensimmons6149
      @bensimmons6149 4 роки тому +12

      He’s clearly a lazy idiot

    • @ddw-ge1ss
      @ddw-ge1ss 3 роки тому

      1st year apprentices make mostly 10k more than that lol

    • @ST-gf2ms
      @ST-gf2ms 3 роки тому

      I have a GED and clear 50K; in Tennessee.

  • @qcspt
    @qcspt 5 років тому +98

    Well, most of the philosophy majors that I've met in the past were in that major with the plan of going to law school to become lawyers. I wouldn't say that everyone who takes that on is w/o a plan. Just sayin'...

    • @thefudge0101
      @thefudge0101 5 років тому +14

      Yep, I have a philosophy degree and went to law school, that was the plan from freshman year. Most people in my major had the same path, or wanted to go to graduate schools for similar reasons. It's not necessarily dumb to major in philosophy, it's dumb to not have a plan after graduation.

    • @thefudge0101
      @thefudge0101 5 років тому +1

      @TheLifeBidder Yep, thank you for saying exactly what I said, but with more passion.

    • @qdllc
      @qdllc 4 роки тому +1

      More so, don’t hinge your undergraduate degree on going to grad school. You may not get in, you may get in and fail, you may get in and realize you hate the profession you anticipated entering...if your undergraduate degree is worthless, you’ve squandered your opportunity.

    • @littlesongbird1
      @littlesongbird1 3 роки тому

      Agreed or I knew some that were doing that business. It's all how you plan it.

  • @BassPlayer60134
    @BassPlayer60134 5 років тому +660

    I laugh, but I didn’t do any better. Music composition.

    • @ChrisMFlorida
      @ChrisMFlorida 5 років тому +85

      Oof

    • @shannon2748
      @shannon2748 5 років тому +69

      Psychology with a minor in chemistry...also not so good.

    • @BassPlayer60134
      @BassPlayer60134 5 років тому +97

      Became a music teacher. Making $50k now. But working 70 hours a week to do it.

    • @robynjoy910
      @robynjoy910 5 років тому +14

      BassPlayer60134 what was your plan with the music degree? There are so many subjects I like but I know won’t get me too far financially lol. Philosophy being one of them.

    • @BassPlayer60134
      @BassPlayer60134 5 років тому +77

      I was a fool. Had no plan.

  • @AGL23
    @AGL23 5 років тому +7

    It’s great that he finished his degree. He can just go back and finish another degree and move forward and have a nice story to tell. Good for him.

  • @vintageswiss9096
    @vintageswiss9096 5 років тому +126

    Kid makes $20,000 a year working 40 hours a week. Ramsey wants him to find an extra $1500 a month.
    So you want him to magically start making $45,000 a year while in school.
    I need some of what Ramsey is smoking...

    • @jacob9673
      @jacob9673 5 років тому +9

      Vintage Swiss Also, he didn’t seem totally versed on undergraduate curriculum. At least in my engineering program the first year was largely the same for STEM majors- but the second year was all major specific.

    • @catllionare
      @catllionare 4 роки тому +27

      Good point. I just don't know how the guy could possibly work 40 hours a week, plus a side gig that will pay $1.5k, plus being a full time student. Who does that?

    • @bucketrance
      @bucketrance 4 роки тому +26

      Yea I agree 12 credit hrs + 40 hr job + 30 hr uber/delivery ? = death

    • @tacticalcrusader3709
      @tacticalcrusader3709 4 роки тому +8

      The dude was a philosophy major. He could start doing freelance writing gigs. I made $400 my first month as a freelance proof reader.

    • @mark6714
      @mark6714 4 роки тому

      @@bucketrance 😂😂

  • @christophercroteau6138
    @christophercroteau6138 5 років тому +19

    Around here in the Seattle area, you just need a degree and you can interview yourself into just about any non-technical entry level administrative position. This guy just needs to interview better and smarter at the right places.

  • @RealLifeMoney
    @RealLifeMoney 5 років тому +55

    Dave’s face in the beginning 😂
    Kid knows he went the wrong way, at least he’s willing to adjust himself!

    • @erock1437
      @erock1437 5 років тому

      RealLife Money - Weekly Financial Videos That’s EXACTLY what caught my attention!!

    • @s.e.hebert7307
      @s.e.hebert7307 5 років тому +1

      Hey, he got a free education and a degree (he will never be like others -- changed forever) so he _hardly_ messed up.

    • @valuecalc
      @valuecalc 4 роки тому +1

      Nick, he fell for one scam and wants to sign up for yet another.

  • @Julian-bs6nx
    @Julian-bs6nx 3 роки тому +8

    My brother is majoring in biology to move on to grad school to be a pharmacist and minoring in philosophy because he loves it... i was always told major in what gets you a job and minor in what you love...i am lucky as i love accounting and it is a very safe and secure field

  • @coreyeverett5500
    @coreyeverett5500 5 років тому +88

    I've heard Philosophy majors do well as lawyers. That could be a possibility.

    • @Gamenetreviews
      @Gamenetreviews 4 роки тому +4

      Very expensive to do and very limited job market, unless you can get into a top school but after the University of Delaware that may be unlikely.

    • @btw3344
      @btw3344 4 роки тому +1

      @@Gamenetreviews lol yeah if you don't go to a known law school you will end up as a public defender

    • @schuylergeery-zink1923
      @schuylergeery-zink1923 4 роки тому

      Litigation, contracts, business/transactional, estate planning, insurance law etc pay very well and you don’t need to go to a private law school to get a good paying job as a lawyer. Nebraska College of Law and Creighton graduated most of the lawyers in Nebraska and they’re doing well with less debt. Even JD preferred jobs like compliance and lobbyist/analyst pay well depending on your experience.
      I’m glad I went to Nebraska rather than American George Washington - an expensive private school I also got a scholarship for. DC was way too expensive and it wouldn’t have been worth it. Anyway, my fav professor taught at UCLA and George Washington. So I got private school level professor paying a quarter of the cost.

    • @thedarkfrost2351
      @thedarkfrost2351 3 роки тому

      @@schuylergeery-zink1923 you went to Nebraska? Haha my older brother is going there

  • @esquire9445
    @esquire9445 5 років тому +22

    I have a degree in finance. You need Financial Accounting 1 and 2, Managerial Accounting, Micro Econ, Macro Econ, Business Math(if you have 3 calculus classes you can bypass). It's a full year of prerequisites before you can enter your Junior year of Business School which is 2 more years. So yeah, that's 3 more years of college. OR you can apply for an MBA program which is a better idea and as a graduate you can apply.

    • @Cfergsthebest
      @Cfergsthebest 5 років тому +1

      This is what I was thinking to. I was like a BA isn't going to have a huge crossover with a BS or BBA in finance because the first 2 years in fact aren't copy in paste when there's that much of a change.

    • @cobrakai3732
      @cobrakai3732 5 років тому +1

      I was just saying this very thing.... could’ve save me some typing if I’d have scrolled down more.
      Except for math, we did have to take Finite, Calculus, and business statistics as pre-reqs during years 1-2 and there wasn’t a bypass for those.... but every school is different I guess!
      I agree that he should think about just getting the MBA. The work experience might still be a problem when he gets out, but at least he wouldn’t have wasted 3 years on another bachelors degree!

  • @Heyemeyohsts
    @Heyemeyohsts 5 років тому +14

    He doesn’t necessarily need another degree, if he applies himself and looks for the right role, he can climb the ladder somewhere and increase his salary.

  • @BenVanCamp
    @BenVanCamp 5 років тому +14

    The most important truths are revealed through suffering; therefore, a life of poverty makes a good philosopher.

  • @Countrud
    @Countrud 5 років тому +24

    I have a philosophy degree and I make 90k. I joined the National Guard 10 years ago and intend to finish 20, and I used ROTC to pay for college. I enjoyed philosophy, and I found that the analytical skills I gained allowed me to cross train and educate myself in different fields enough to work in welding, the engineering dept., then branch into operations. I’m sure the military background helped with the whole “foot-in-the-door” part. But I really attribute my ability to navigate different job functions well to the hard work I put into philosophy. And it is personally satisfying to be able to discuss the historical progression (or digression) of fundamental beliefs and arguments that shaped Western civilization. And the world, for that matter. That is something a hard data driven curriculum may not provide very well.

  • @thecattermat
    @thecattermat 5 років тому +228

    the "college is a scam" people in the comments are almost *always* an eNtRePrEnEuR lol

    • @abec8211
      @abec8211 5 років тому +40

      It's not a scam. It's a hugely overpriced bubble

    • @infamouscrusader3363
      @infamouscrusader3363 5 років тому +13

      Not me. I think it is a scam for most because they major in subjects that lead to low paying jobs and can be easily self-taught. I suggest most people to do other options such as Trade School, Community College, and depending on their plans in life, go into Business themselves. There are other options.

    • @infamouscrusader3363
      @infamouscrusader3363 5 років тому +11

      @@abec8211 That's what a scam is. Most degrees are not worthwhile.

    • @Questioneverythingx
      @Questioneverythingx 4 роки тому +7

      It’s a scam when you get a philo degree

    • @user-yr3uj6go8i
      @user-yr3uj6go8i 4 роки тому +11

      Hate to say it, but it is a scam in general. Only go to college if you're trying to become a doctor, lawyer, engineer, scientist, etc.

  • @rickvangils100
    @rickvangils100 4 роки тому +4

    I highly respect this guy for admitting he messed up by majoring in philosophy. The most important step to becoming successful is by admitting your mistakes and being honest to yourself. It tells me that he has enough self-awareness to make it one day.

  • @jeebugorn
    @jeebugorn 5 років тому +51

    If the guy needs a side hustle, the best option would be joining the Delaware National Guard. It would be a part time gig to make money, with his degree he could go in as an officer, AND Delaware would pay full tuition for state schools. So he would not get any debt for an additional degree, get incredible leadership training that companies will pay good money to him for those skills

    • @Elizabeth-yg2mg
      @Elizabeth-yg2mg 5 років тому +8

      That is a very good idea; wish I'd done that.

    • @TheMarioMen1
      @TheMarioMen1 4 роки тому +3

      Even active duty guys recommend going Guard but they’re really not advertised as well, only portrayed as “weekend soldiers” but they get literally all the benefits of AD while living in your home state, not having to move every 3 to 4 years, etc

  • @Hi-qt2nj
    @Hi-qt2nj 4 роки тому +6

    I’m currently 20 and college student and I make 35k with just a high school degree. Something I learned in my young life is that you get ahead with who you know rather than what you know. I hope nothing but the best for Chris and to anyone planning to go to college please make research on what job you can get with your degree .

  • @NateMaturo
    @NateMaturo 5 років тому +41

    Love his ambition, you got this Chris!

    • @Jdb63
      @Jdb63 5 років тому

      Me too. It'll be hard but he definitely has the attitude to do this

  • @28gbb
    @28gbb 3 роки тому +8

    I knew a smart guy who graduated with honors in philosophy. This mutual friend we both knew told me she saw him working the popcorn machine at the movie theater after graduation and it made her so sad

  • @Jacob-jg6cd
    @Jacob-jg6cd 5 років тому +98

    99% of the people in this comment section have probably never taken a course in philosophy.

    • @libertarian4323
      @libertarian4323 5 років тому +8

      Taking philosophy 101 on the way to an engineering degree is fine, but don't major in philosophy.

    • @jameslyons6655
      @jameslyons6655 4 роки тому

      Never have. But I retired at 52 so now I have time to ponder things.

    • @jongxina3595
      @jongxina3595 4 роки тому +6

      @Patrick Carnevale Mechanical engineering is trash. Software engineering is where its at 😎

    • @jongxina3595
      @jongxina3595 4 роки тому +4

      @Patrick Carnevale I didnt decide that, the market did.

    • @hotman718
      @hotman718 4 роки тому

      Yes because they are smart

  • @oldboy9267
    @oldboy9267 3 роки тому +33

    Got a philosophy degree and now I am in a tech job working my way to my dream position. No one understands the truth of a philosophy degree until they work hard and achieve one, and that is that this education prepares you to excel in just about anything. This is because people who pursue philosophy learn to retain and exploit knowledge better than the average person. Look at the percentage of philosophy graduates that pass the lsat. It's not for no reason. Okay I'll get off of my soap box for another year.

    • @olympic-ass-eater
      @olympic-ass-eater 2 роки тому

      What and where do you work? Is it computer science?

    • @Musicienne-DAB1995
      @Musicienne-DAB1995 2 роки тому +1

      I am glad that things have worked out well for you, but you must concede that in many other cases, students have not had the same fortune.

    • @catalinaabeyta4379
      @catalinaabeyta4379 Рік тому +1

      Yea, he should go to law school.

  • @ShreeNation
    @ShreeNation 5 років тому +12

    When passion drives you, let reason hold the reins.

  • @phipsdeus2
    @phipsdeus2 5 років тому +113

    If he earns $20k a year, he qualifies for $$5600/yr in person grants. He definitely can do this.

    • @ashleyrahn2776
      @ashleyrahn2776 5 років тому +14

      Do you mean pell grants? 1. You only get your income counted as an independent at age 26, the caller is only 25 otherwise they count your parents income. 2. The caller already has his bachelors and aside from graduate plus loans for graduate school, the federal government does not give financial aid past your bachelor's degree.

    • @phipsdeus2
      @phipsdeus2 5 років тому +10

      Ashley Rahn you are right. I totally missed that. Funny story: because I graduated with a semi useless degree, I asked my school to rescind my bachelors degree so I could qualify for pull grants. They said no.

    • @edgaruriarte
      @edgaruriarte 5 років тому +3

      @@ashleyrahn2776 I am 24 and was now considered independent so my parent's income wasnt required anymore for the Pell Grant. Also, the new maximum for Pell Grant is just above $6k/year. The duration if being given the grant is only for a duration of 150% of time required for your degree and it isn't availabme for post graduates so you're right on him not being able to receive anymore.

    • @s.e.hebert7307
      @s.e.hebert7307 5 років тому +8

      Grants are for ppl w/o degrees

    • @TooHonest4_You
      @TooHonest4_You 5 років тому +5

      You dont qualify for Pell Grant after completing your first bachelor's degree

  • @MsNikkka
    @MsNikkka 3 роки тому +12

    I majored in philosophy. It taught me critical thinking skills, helped me do well on the LSAT and got me a full scholarship to law school. It's a great stepping-stone degree. Otherwise, pretty useless.

  • @ECmom
    @ECmom 5 років тому +52

    His grandfather basically paid money to support Univ of DE to pay for their philosophy professors.

    • @littlesongbird1
      @littlesongbird1 3 роки тому

      I grew up in NJ. University of DE was known as the "University of Drunkenness" and was where you went if you want to go to college to party and not study. (

  • @freeman7296
    @freeman7296 5 років тому +7

    I work at a college - they don't make getting a 2nd degree easy...they'll make a person who earned a degree redo a lot...it's frustrating and stupid, but it's they way they are. I've experienced it myself and came away annoyed. I wanted to earn an MBA to go with my engineering degree - and they wanted me to retake math courses - it had been some time, but if there is one thing engineering students have it's lots and lots of high level math - and to retake basic stuff is dumb...it's a money grab.

  • @marcoseesmarcoshares
    @marcoseesmarcoshares 5 років тому +7

    Its plain dumb taking on student loans these days. Especially with little return Degrees offer unless you are in a STEM field

  • @loadz03
    @loadz03 5 років тому +103

    Was it worth it? 🤔
    That's a thought philosophers can ponder for generations.

    • @Origami_River
      @Origami_River 5 років тому +2

      😂😂😂

    • @Origami_River
      @Origami_River 5 років тому +2

      😂

    • @---cr8nw
      @---cr8nw 5 років тому +1

      It'll take philosophers generations to answer that question. Anyone who's learned how to run a cost benefit analysis can answer that question pretty quickly.

  • @jayarciga5880
    @jayarciga5880 5 років тому +20

    I have a philosophy degree work for a law firm making $35k only 3 months out of college. Got the degree to eventually go into law school.

    • @jacqueline716
      @jacqueline716 5 років тому +2

      Any major will do for law school.

    • @VermHat
      @VermHat 5 років тому

      Hope you don't find it too miserable.

    • @jacqueline716
      @jacqueline716 5 років тому +2

      According to some studies I’ve read, physics and math majors do best on the LSAT. However, it’s hard to deny that a philosophy background is helpful, especially since logical reasoning is the majority of the exam.

    • @jacqueline716
      @jacqueline716 5 років тому

      No, you silly person. Studies conducted by law schools that I read when I took the LSAT years ago. No need to be so defensive.

    • @Ryan-sw4xy
      @Ryan-sw4xy 5 років тому

      35k?! Wow so impressive. College is awesome.

  • @carl1095
    @carl1095 5 років тому +71

    A philosophy degree is only for those who already come from money, who have a trust fund and the philosophy degree is just to have something to your name.

    • @dmuwina
      @dmuwina 5 років тому +26

      Here is the thing. Of all college majors Philosophy does not qualify you for a unique set of jobs. However, what it does is that it prepares you to do almost anything and especially for people who want to go to graduate school. For example 48.5% of Philosophy majors who apply to medical school get accepted. The highest of any major surpassing Biology even. Math and Statistics are at 47%. This is because Philosophy students dominate the GREs, claiming the number 1 spot in both the analytic writing and verbal reasoning portions of the exam. Even with LSAT Philosophy majors rank number 1. The problem with this gentleman is that he seems to have no clear vision of what he wants to do. I doubt with that attitude he would succeed in business, later on anything. He has a lot to sort out.

  • @KH-vv5dq
    @KH-vv5dq 5 років тому +11

    Interesting topic, especially after yesterday's call about a kid who's parents wouldn't pay for their out of state tuition even though they just bought a second house. Maybe that kid wanted to get a philosophy degree.

  • @austina4189
    @austina4189 5 років тому +5

    The first colleges were created for entirely different reasons than what people go for now. Quitting community college my freshman year was the best decision I've made in recent years.

  • @calvinraab8798
    @calvinraab8798 5 років тому +4

    I am currently in college and it's amazing how much debt some people go into with majors that I know most likely wont bring in the income to pay the debt off anytime soon!

  • @W1NNERC
    @W1NNERC 5 років тому +43

    I majored in anthropology but to do finance I went and got an mba with a concentration in finance instead of going back to undergrad

    • @uniqwiab8679
      @uniqwiab8679 5 років тому +12

      Yeah, he should just get the MBA. Lots of opportunities there.

    • @anazuosalihu9712
      @anazuosalihu9712 5 років тому +4

      This is a good suggestion

    • @W1NNERC
      @W1NNERC 5 років тому +4

      @@bsca1956 Yes Im A finance Manger for amazon in seattle

    • @s.e.hebert7307
      @s.e.hebert7307 5 років тому +1

      MUCH better plan. I doubt you worked 2 FT while you did it

  • @PInk77W1
    @PInk77W1 5 років тому +13

    When I was in the Marines
    My Lt. had a degree in philosophy.

  • @---cr8nw
    @---cr8nw 5 років тому +4

    I have a bachelors in ministry and work at a desk in financial services for about $60k. When I started in financial services almost 9 years ago I was making $18,500. I could still go back for another degree, but I'm glad I didn't do it then. Now I have a solid background in a steady industry.

  • @painrelief3441
    @painrelief3441 5 років тому +25

    At least he admits that he made a mistake and is making the effort to ask around for help.
    That's more than what most people will do.

  • @chrisd6736
    @chrisd6736 5 років тому +16

    I did a second major in philosophy. It’s a pretty good degree to have especially if you go to grad school. Not very useful by itself.

  • @rolandocampuzano8043
    @rolandocampuzano8043 5 років тому +4

    I love that David didn’t chew this man out. Usually Dave beats them up with words.

    • @x-rayscott3409
      @x-rayscott3409 5 років тому +1

      He didn't need to. The caller already saw his mistake.

  • @avril14thlove
    @avril14thlove 5 років тому +39

    I’m 26, got a philosophy degree at a top school, and make $85k. The degree doesn’t dictate your success, that’s garbage. Be smart, apply yourself, and chase what you want. I don’t regret majoring in philosophy for a second.

    • @upfulsoul826
      @upfulsoul826 5 років тому

      It's a good degree. What kind of philosophy did you major in?

    • @herbertscott9575
      @herbertscott9575 5 років тому +1

      What school, if you don't mind sharing? How much did you make year one? What field are you in, did you have established connections prior to getting in it? How long did it take to make 85K?

    • @mosesyi5523
      @mosesyi5523 5 років тому +4

      Useless degree unless you teach

    • @anazuosalihu9712
      @anazuosalihu9712 5 років тому

      @@herbertscott9575 ff

    • @avril14thlove
      @avril14thlove 5 років тому +2

      Herbert Scott I went to UC Berkeley. I spent my first year out of school making about $50k and about 2.5 years make $85k.

  • @xandro2445
    @xandro2445 5 років тому +8

    I double majored in philosophy, English Literature, and recieved a certificate in folklore as well. I then went to grad school and earned my M.A. in philosophy. After grad school I went to law school and was able to clerk for a federal judge during two of my summers. I'm now an ethics attorney for one of the three lettered government agencies. I make a little over 115k a year. I could have made 140k at various law firms, but I love my current work.
    If you're curious about a degree/major in philosophy then let me know.

    • @iDigress77times
      @iDigress77times 4 роки тому

      I think the problem is that people want to get rich quick. I am doing a liberal studies degree and plan on following in your steps.

  • @khoado123
    @khoado123 4 роки тому +99

    buddy got a free college degree and chose philosophy...

    • @theunitedworldofworkers7274
      @theunitedworldofworkers7274 3 роки тому +3

      It’s not like you can study whatever you want in college. You won’t be allowed to take STEM courses unless you were good at math in high school.
      And schools don’t have enough space for everyone in certain courses.

    • @DrCureAging
      @DrCureAging 3 роки тому +7

      @@theunitedworldofworkers7274 Anything in community college would still be better

    • @calebmallen
      @calebmallen 3 роки тому +1

      Wasted...

    • @cptfreeman8966
      @cptfreeman8966 3 роки тому +2

      @@theunitedworldofworkers7274 did you go to college? Who told you you can’t take a STEM course? You can you just have to work on your math skills

    • @theunitedworldofworkers7274
      @theunitedworldofworkers7274 3 роки тому +3

      @@cptfreeman8966
      I’m currently a computer science major. So my math skills are pretty sharpened.
      But apparently only 27% of the US population is proficient at math. So I’m not going to sit here and say that everyone should be forced to do something that doesn’t naturally fit their personality.
      A lot of people wouldn’t be able to excel at Calculus and my major goes beyond to differential equations.

  • @kevinfranzen9733
    @kevinfranzen9733 5 років тому +3

    There's many Universities that don't allow a second degree, once a student has graduated. This is ridiculous. Check that out too.

  • @ramboxlegacy14
    @ramboxlegacy14 5 років тому +17

    * Trigger Warning*
    Pick from these three different colleges at your university: Business, Engineering or Nursing. There, problem solved.
    I was in the school of music, but I had a wake up call, realizing I want to eat when I graduate. Currently in my final year of BS in Finance, specializing in Investing.

    • @vlKenzo
      @vlKenzo 5 років тому

      Thanks for saying colleges and not majors. If you’re going down the business route you need to narrow it down between finance or accounting. Marketing, business management, entrepreneurship, marketing, and often economics are so generalized they develop few opportunities following the completion of the bachelors degree.

    • @gd5729
      @gd5729 5 років тому

      @@vlKenzo for accounting, you have another 2 years to do the CPA and it's quite pricey

  • @baylorwells8091
    @baylorwells8091 4 роки тому +7

    The fact is his philosophy degree can get him money but he doesn’t know how to do that

  • @talyahr3302
    @talyahr3302 4 роки тому +52

    I got my degree in philosophy and it was one of the best decisions I ever made! Employers love critical thinkers. This guy's problem goes beyond the degree. If you're a good thinker, you can make money. Period. Some of the most rich billionaires majored in philosophy and credit it for their success. He said his grandparents paid for everything in school so who knows how much he was actually paying attention, he probably just chose an easier major and partied.

    • @mikevarga6387
      @mikevarga6387 3 роки тому

      What do you do for a living?

    • @Primitive_Code
      @Primitive_Code 3 роки тому +3

      I like your approach. I'm in a similar boat with a math degree. The degree is pretty much just a label, it matters "who" holds the degree.

    • @aperture_v2
      @aperture_v2 3 роки тому +1

      What is your job ? 🤔 how much do you make? I'm thinking of doing a philosophy major but every philosophy major says it's a good major but they don't say what they work in and how much they make

    • @talyahr3302
      @talyahr3302 3 роки тому +1

      @@aperture_v2 I also had a minor in psychology.

    • @Musicienne-DAB1995
      @Musicienne-DAB1995 2 роки тому

      @@talyahr3302 So how much of your success can be attributed to the arguably more marketable psychology minor?

  • @Lysander-Spooner
    @Lysander-Spooner 5 років тому +3

    I did the same thing back in the 1970’s. Then paid cash for an MBA and got a real career.

  • @noobFPV
    @noobFPV 4 роки тому +4

    This just shows that you can't help someone by giving them something when they haven't earned it.

  • @Oakleyworld
    @Oakleyworld 4 роки тому +7

    This guys advice makes it sound so easy, just find a side hustle for an extra 1500 and go to school at the same time

  • @bravereprove2246
    @bravereprove2246 5 років тому +16

    Military as an Officer is a good use of a philosophy degree.

    • @kivie13
      @kivie13 5 років тому

      Absolutely. I enlisted and retired after 23 years. Its not an easy life because the military is more than a job which is why people don't go in but I sure am glad I did and stuck with it. Unfortunately they don't offer the 20 yr high 3 retirement plan anymore but its still a decent job opportunity.

    • @pneron2032
      @pneron2032 3 роки тому

      To shoot or not to shoot...

  • @mr3817
    @mr3817 4 роки тому +3

    I made $20k/yr working 30hrs a week doing night shift stocking shelves from 10pm-4am, going home, sleeping 3.5-4.5hrs before getting up for class. It can be done. Employers WILL work with your schedule.

  • @jonirving5606
    @jonirving5606 3 роки тому +6

    People generally hate care salesmen. Shouldn't we start hating on university administrators who sell philosophy degrees to unsuspecting 18 year olds?

  • @jordanlazaro1676
    @jordanlazaro1676 3 роки тому +9

    This is why I chose to minor in Philosophy as part of my Major in Biochemistry :)
    I really wish that I could major in Philosophy, but society doesn't value it and doesn't give it any importance.

  • @DianaLopezDlo
    @DianaLopezDlo 3 роки тому +27

    I'm a philosophy major. We do fine. It turns out studying complicated ideas and breaking them down, and then communicating these ideas, is a really important skill.

    • @oldboy9267
      @oldboy9267 3 роки тому +4

      @Kai Good refutation, you'd do well in phil class XD.

    • @oldboy9267
      @oldboy9267 3 роки тому

      word

  • @dustinanddylc
    @dustinanddylc 5 років тому +4

    Many lawyers have philosophy undergrads. It’s a great foundation for a lot of careers. I have a philosophy degree and pivoted from education to sales and now I make almost 10x what that guy makes.

  • @johngoldsworthy7135
    @johngoldsworthy7135 3 роки тому +7

    There's a difference between ignorant and willfully ignorant. Take note.

  • @JK20239
    @JK20239 5 років тому +179

    College was definitely a scam. Go into the trades my friend. Alot of business schools dont allow post bac studies. MBA is probably the best bet

    • @tadious9415
      @tadious9415 5 років тому +31

      College as a whole boosts your average income up about 10k from someone who doesn't have one. That is on average and it depends on what you major in, and if someone can get into a good trade that's an awesome option, but a 10k boost per year for life on average is pretty major when you multiply that over the 40-50 years people generally work. Just if you're gonna do philosophy do a double major or do it as a minor and choose a viable career too.

    • @ScooniePenn10
      @ScooniePenn10 5 років тому +26

      It's a scam when your parents and or guardians allow you to major is a completely useless degree.

    • @trylikeafool
      @trylikeafool 5 років тому +47

      That’s a false generalized statement. College opens a lot of doors to higher paying careers. Certain majors are a waste of time, and if you go into a ton of debt...that’s not smart. But go to a cheap school and it’s highly beneficial.

    • @gabew4188
      @gabew4188 5 років тому

      Josh agreed

    • @BboyDaquack
      @BboyDaquack 5 років тому +34

      Not a scam if you don't let it scam you. Me friends and family all engineers, nurses, physician assistants, nurse practitioners, etc. All make 60-150k salary. The key is a job in demand

  • @CommanderXED
    @CommanderXED 5 років тому +3

    Here's good general advice to all college students. During your second year of college you need to start looking for an actual job that you "think" you might want to have. Then research the position, talk to people who are doing it. Ask them what their background was, how they like it, and what the pros and cons are. Then figure out what you will need to do to actually get the job at some point (if it can be had at all). Most actual jobs do not need a specific degree just a degree in the same general area (science, business, education, etc).

  • @korianabrooks4241
    @korianabrooks4241 4 роки тому +3

    I have Masters in Philosophy. Took a bunch of prerequisites and got into an MBA program, completed within a year. If he studied philosophy, he can definitely figure the situation out.

  • @KarlOlofsson
    @KarlOlofsson 4 роки тому +5

    Software development could be an option too, which you don't really need a degree for. You can get good certifications instead in various topics that pretty much gives a starter job right away. Cloud computing and AI technology for example. Then a philosophy degree would be golden because it would help to understand abstractions and abstract concepts which are very common in CS. Liberal arts + computer science is very underrated. You need to be able to think creatively to solve hard (and lucrative) problems which you don't if you just learn a rule book in law or finance.

  • @rwdplz1
    @rwdplz1 5 років тому +1

    I looked into getting an electrical engineering degree to go with my mechanical, because HR departments want the EE, but the school teaches what are basically the same classes with different course codes specifically so they can say they're not equivalencies and charge you more to take the same classes over again.

  • @henrytep8884
    @henrytep8884 5 років тому +27

    Dude.... just take the CFA if you want yo get into finance.

    • @Erict887
      @Erict887 5 років тому +2

      This exactly.

    • @mammothorbust
      @mammothorbust 5 років тому +10

      I got a finance degree and am currently studying for the second CFA test... this isn't a bad idea. However, those tests are so freaking hard already, it would honestly be even harder with no finance or business background whatsoever. You need some base knowledge going in. Not saying it's impossible, but you would have to be incredibly smart AND incredibly diligent for 3 years, and I doubt many have the perserverance or ability to pull that off.

    • @CarlosFlores-xf2sn
      @CarlosFlores-xf2sn 5 років тому

      What is CFA?

    • @bslorbust
      @bslorbust 5 років тому +1

      Philosophy major taking the CFA , good luck. My husband has a bachelor in physics and biomedical engineering and struggled with the CFA. He passed level 1 and 2 and working on 3. I think this guy needs the core finance classes then he can take the CFA.

  • @litaspunk
    @litaspunk 5 років тому +4

    I don't know if Bruce Lee actually said this, but in the movie of his life he was asked what can he do with his philosophy degree and his response was "think deep thoughts about being unemployed". Seems about right.

  • @evanb4189
    @evanb4189 3 роки тому +24

    Philosophy majors have one of the higher median salaries of majors. The degree isnt holding him back.

    • @cubicle47
      @cubicle47 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, my wife has a philosophy degree as her only degree and she makes a lot more money than I do as a software engineer. The degree isn't directly related to her work (which isn't uncommon at all), but the skills she picked up are relevant.

    • @wellknown1204
      @wellknown1204 3 роки тому

      @@cubicle47 if you don't mind sharing sir, what is your wife job title and what is her job needing her to do?

    • @techmedia1360
      @techmedia1360 3 роки тому +2

      Well known i mean prostitution fits that criteria

    • @chesshooligan1282
      @chesshooligan1282 3 роки тому +1

      @@techmedia1360 One criterion, two criteria.

  • @cwooley88
    @cwooley88 2 роки тому +2

    There’s a big difference between classes that qualify for a BA v BS
    Undergrad degree. I learned this myself when many community college classes didn’t transfer over.

  • @biffboffo
    @biffboffo 5 років тому +2

    I know a couple people who have Philosophy degrees who have done just fine. They just entered the work force, and through hard work, they moved up in their jobs and soon it didn’t matter what their degree was in. I also know people who have NO college degree who have done fine through the same approach. I will admit that my Philosophy major friends didn’t leave college with debt though, that was key.

  • @DrZaius_3
    @DrZaius_3 3 роки тому +4

    Philosophy is usually a really good degree to pair with something else, that’s why lots of students take Philosophy before going to law school.

  • @dc76384
    @dc76384 5 років тому +49

    What a waste. College graduate, and cant figure out what to do! 25 years old and educated still completely lost...Hooray college!!

    • @johnhein2539
      @johnhein2539 5 років тому +4

      Most people didn’t have a grandpa footing the bill the first time. He’s blessed with ability to jump right back on the horse within his 20s and try again. Most don’t have that chance. Grandpa’s money gave him the education of college’s inhumanely cruel scams with the only backlash for him being time spent in college. Not a waste at all compared to most, the money had a point and taught him a valuable lesson.

    • @ytyt3922
      @ytyt3922 5 років тому +5

      Indecision has nothing to do with education. I’m 39 with a graduate degree and good job and I STILL am not sure how I want to spend the rest of my life.

    • @dc76384
      @dc76384 5 років тому

      @@ytyt3922 I would think that they go hand in hand...or so I was lead to believe going to high school. College was the magic bullet, you'll be wealthy beyond your wildest dreams, opportunity will fall out of the sky, and because of your superior intelligence making wise decisions won't be a problem. Guess I missed the boat.

  • @logansgamingworld8137
    @logansgamingworld8137 5 років тому +56

    What are you going to do with a philosophy degree? "Have deep thoughts about being unemployed." -Bruce Lee

    • @swoopes7777
      @swoopes7777 5 років тому +2

      Did Bruce Lee actually say that?

    • @logansgamingworld8137
      @logansgamingworld8137 5 років тому +6

      In Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story, it's what he told Linda on their first date. I don't know how factual it is but that's what I always think of when I hear philosophy major LOL.

    • @upfulsoul826
      @upfulsoul826 5 років тому +2

      The analytic skills learnt in philosophy transfer to many professions.

  • @alexsbikesandmotors
    @alexsbikesandmotors 4 роки тому +2

    I graduated 6 months ago with a bs in business administration economics and now i'm driving a bus for $35k. Can't find a business job anywhere. Thinking I wasted my time and money with college.

  • @miketheyunggod2534
    @miketheyunggod2534 3 роки тому +1

    Dave: " I have Socrates on the line from Greece". "What's up Soc"?

  • @SwimSweetie100
    @SwimSweetie100 5 років тому +26

    I don't think Dave Ramsey understands how difficult being a student and working 50-60 hours really is. This is ridiculous advice. I work almost 40 hours working on my science degree and i'm drowning

    • @pogwef
      @pogwef 5 років тому +4

      Considering that’s what he did, I think he does know...

    • @user-cv3gd2wr5q
      @user-cv3gd2wr5q 5 років тому +1

      SwimSweetie100 so work harder and stop complaining. That’s the problem with people like you.

    • @user-cv3gd2wr5q
      @user-cv3gd2wr5q 5 років тому

      ShaitaX then be a loser...I don’t care. It’s not my life.

    • @SwimSweetie100
      @SwimSweetie100 5 років тому +5

      @@user-cv3gd2wr5q yeah, you're trolling on the internet..and I'M the loser...

    • @user-cv3gd2wr5q
      @user-cv3gd2wr5q 5 років тому

      SwimSweetie100 I’m not trolling. You kids want everything easy. Instead of doing what it takes, you complain and whine. Well news flash sparky...you’re gonna have to work harder or else you’re going down. Like I said before, it’s your life, be a loser if you want or work harder to be an overachiever. You’ll learn, one way or another!

  • @chaseonthebass
    @chaseonthebass 5 років тому +4

    This guy is a prank caller I swear , I'm pretty sure he's the guy who said he got cut from West point the day before graduation

  • @GuitarsRgood7
    @GuitarsRgood7 3 роки тому +3

    Some majors should be illegal to charge money for.

  • @Eric_Bassett
    @Eric_Bassett 3 роки тому +2

    40 hours a week and only 20 grand ??? People working full time at McDonald’s make more than that. Why even accept a job with such low pay. Full time and only 20 grand ?? That doesn’t add up.

  • @KBlade1
    @KBlade1 2 місяці тому +1

    One thing I've learned about college is, if you don't ask questions, it's a waste of valuable time.

  • @jasminejoseph8307
    @jasminejoseph8307 5 років тому +46

    It's disheartening that classical majors and other social science degrees get such a bad rap. It seems like our culture is getting further and further away from these kinds of studies. What needs to happen is universities need to properly coach and advise students to make wise career choices with the knowledge and skills they have acquired.

    • @rebeccashields9626
      @rebeccashields9626 5 років тому +21

      Jasmine Joseph you don’t need to go to school to learn those things though. Books are free at the library. You can still learn history and philosophy as much as you want without spending $20,000 to do so.

    • @infamouscrusader3363
      @infamouscrusader3363 5 років тому +8

      @@rebeccashields9626 Exactly. It's not that there is no interest in these subjects, it's just that there are better ways to learn these subjects.

    • @rimun5235
      @rimun5235 5 років тому +4

      @@rebeccashields9626 As someone who studies independently. I do not know many people willing to do that. You only have people on the internet to discuss things with but for the most part, having to discipline yourself to study three hours a night after work is not something most people will do.

    • @iDigress77times
      @iDigress77times 4 роки тому +4

      @@rebeccashields9626, I suppose the same could be said about any major.