Hi everyone! I want to make clear that my goal isn't to copy or re-create any specific sound. Instead, I'm aiming to create a ''modern industrial'' tone that's accessible to everyone, drawing inspiration from the setups of various well-known bands. There's some bands that I didn't talk about that I LOVE the tones like Rob Zombie or recent Killing Joke(are they industrial to you?haha). Thanks for watching!! (til the end please hahaha 👀)
I had a nice conversation with Chase from 3teeth about his gear after a show and he says the tone is in the Line 6 Helix that he uses and his Schecter Maus C7 guitar. Hope this helps anyone who wants to dive even deeper :)
The Disruptor plugin is incredible! Also Dino apparently used a KSR Ceres preamp pedal at one point, which i also have and it’s amazing for modern metal tones, super tight without the need for a boost pedal. For anyone interested in using preamps straight into your computer, i recommend adding a power amp simulator right after the preamp signal, to get tones that actually sound like the whole amp. There is a pedal made by Guptech (a Quebec company 🙌) called PdeQ which emulates the presence and resonance controls of an amp. Many plugins also have a separate power amp emulation, like the Mercuriall plugins and STL Tones Amphub
100% right, the problem(which is not really a problem lol) with guys like Cazares is that he's changing his equipment VERY often unlike let's say Richard from Rammstein that uses the same gear for years. Also many industrial bands are changing tones from song to song+post-processing according to the mix of the song. Small details are making a huge difference.
@@apoplexiamusic lol yeah but so much fun? hahaha I guess it all depends of the style of music you're going for. Although there's industrial artists that keeps the same tone all the way through as well. Just like straight up metal bands. I like both, but I'm leaning towards the bands that uses different sounds hehe
This heavily reminds me of the guitar tone shaping we did for me yesterday with our sound engineer. It's the kind of sound I wanted and use now (mostly on 7 and 8 string guitars).
I used to use my Tone 21 SansAmp for distortion, along with the EMGs on my Strat to get more industrial tones. Since I don’t have either anymore, I use Guitar Amp Pro within Logic. I like to throw an exciter on it too to get a really bright tone. And then put a hi-pass filter to make room for a synth bass.
I had it sounding tight using a Marshall JVM205H boosted with a Boss SD1. Also, I’ll use an EVH 5150 boosted with a Maxon OD808 overdrive pedal. That’s using a single Shure SM57 mic on an Orange PPC212 with V30 speakers. Double tracked. Yet as a plug-in, I’d use the STL Tones Eddie.
I love tone questing to get similar tones to my favorite albums, but even better is when you dial in something really awesome. My go to metal tone has become the Purple Nightmare on the STL Lasse Lammert suite into a couple of ENGL cab IRs from ML Sound Lab. So chunky and snarly.
@@obiedecker4038 haha wow I would kill to go back in the 80s/early 90s to see them live. I think the first time I saw them live it was around 2010 haha I'm 37 so yeah in the 90's I was a bit too young lol
I got a pretty close tone to Dino's on Soul of a New Machine with the STL Tonality Lasse Lammert plugin which has the hot rodded JCM 800 and a Mesa Rectifier cab with V30's and a tube screamer. Brutal tone
You also could have gone with the NEMBRINI XSTASY (Bogner Ecstasy ) AMP SIM for that hot rodded Marshall sound that Dino uses. Use Channel 3, scoop the mids a little, higher presence, modest treble and use an overdrive pedal to boost and tighten low end. Done.
@@vuxnut Yeah thanks man, took me a while to find my niche. I've been listening and producing Industrial/ebm and dark music in general for 20+ years now so it came naturally. However, I didn't think there would be an audience that big for it hehe 🤘
I have the Paul Landers signature Sansamp and its got a clean tone and a Feuer tone and a Wasser tone, and use your imagination on that. Toans for days.
Great video as always dude. When it comes to Godflesh, their tone is much less tight and aggressive than Dinos for example , there’s a huge emphasis on Bens bass in their mixes so the whole thing sounds super heavy and sludgey compared to other industrial bands
When I saw them BC was running his bass into an HM 2 then right into the front of the amp. Broadrick was playing a 7 string and it was crushing as well. Macbook for the drum tracks.
Odd that you mentioned Richard kruspe but left out Paul landers, the other half of rammstein’s guitar sound. they wouldn’t have the iconic guitar sound they have without the blend they achieve between Richard’s amp and Paul’s sansamp.
Industrial... I will use some vst. What is a point in creating industrial, "future" sound with marshall etc. - in fact it sounds very classic... Too classic in my taste.
I think you're right and also wrong haha You can do VERY creative things using any common amp/cab setup. There's soooo many factors. The riffs being the most important I think. But you can add pedals, fxs, resampling etc... People have been using the same gear for years and years. There's a reason.
@@Tonepusher true. On the other hand - industrial "tone" in my opinion doesn't exist. I prefer this bands which experiment with the sounds. Doesn't matter if it is guitar, drums, whatever...
@@kudus9235 haha true, I mean there is some tones that are associated with the genre like the trademark NIN guitar tone for exemple. But you're right, any good guitar tone COULD be industrial. With this video I wanted to share an accessible way of making a cool guitar tone that would fit pretty much any mix. Then people can be as creative as they want with it hehe
@@kudus9235 yeah I do too, I like when there's a consistency across the sound but at the same time I like when every song is a whole different world. I think it's the hardest for industrial music producers...to sound different but at the same time not too much haha
@@saintmorior What bands exactly you have in mind when you say ''mid-00s aggrotech''. It would be easier for me to answer you questions if I know which bands hehe
@@saintmorior yeah especially early Combichrist was very very noisy hehe But SO good though...Intruder Alert! Okay I'll take notes hehe some are easier to reproduce than others though. But all of them at some point sounded pretty similar I'd say.
Lol get mine its a 98 lol pppffttt I don’t need a replacement becasue I’m not an ad actor lol this was from an ad comments back nothing to do with this video
lol well it's hard to differentiate the artists from the person. I'm still listening to Burzum from time to time although I don't really like the person hehe
@Tonepusher yeah like the tunes are good, the riffs. But, and it aint like their lyrics were ever a beacon of poetry in the first place. So its ok. If the tunes rock they rock.
@@Tonepusher 🤣naked ripped masculine european men with deep sexy masuline hopefully german voices mainly in music videos in factories or dilapidated warehouses moving in a way that looks labourious sometimes wearing some kind of BDSM leather 😍😍
@@thepostapocalyptictrio4762 don't be so unrational my pedigree chum, there's nothing wrong with poking fun and things you like, i personally love bands like Rammstein and Laibach, it's the whole aesthetic, naked european dudes in a factory or warehouse somewhere maybe some guy wearing some raunchy leather outfit, alot of sexual innuendoes, lighten up, nobody's hurt by some dude from europe saying homosex and das world the germans and the british have always poked fun at eachother, a bigot means having some sort of prejudice /hostility to a specific group,, typical Americans, twisting our meanings and butchering the beautiful English language... :(
Hi everyone! I want to make clear that my goal isn't to copy or re-create any specific sound. Instead, I'm aiming to create a ''modern industrial'' tone that's accessible to everyone, drawing inspiration from the setups of various well-known bands.
There's some bands that I didn't talk about that I LOVE the tones like Rob Zombie or recent Killing Joke(are they industrial to you?haha).
Thanks for watching!! (til the end please hahaha 👀)
I had a nice conversation with Chase from 3teeth about his gear after a show and he says the tone is in the Line 6 Helix that he uses and his Schecter Maus C7 guitar. Hope this helps anyone who wants to dive even deeper :)
Yeah but in the Helix it could be anyhthing 🤷🏻♂️ I'd be curious to chat with Xavier and know what they use in the studio though! 🤔
The Disruptor plugin is incredible!
Also Dino apparently used a KSR Ceres preamp pedal at one point, which i also have and it’s amazing for modern metal tones, super tight without the need for a boost pedal.
For anyone interested in using preamps straight into your computer, i recommend adding a power amp simulator right after the preamp signal, to get tones that actually sound like the whole amp.
There is a pedal made by Guptech (a Quebec company 🙌) called PdeQ which emulates the presence and resonance controls of an amp.
Many plugins also have a separate power amp emulation, like the Mercuriall plugins and STL Tones Amphub
100% right, the problem(which is not really a problem lol) with guys like Cazares is that he's changing his equipment VERY often unlike let's say Richard from Rammstein that uses the same gear for years. Also many industrial bands are changing tones from song to song+post-processing according to the mix of the song.
Small details are making a huge difference.
@@Tonepusher totally! Having different tones to fit each song is so cool though… but so much work!!!!
@@apoplexiamusic lol yeah but so much fun? hahaha I guess it all depends of the style of music you're going for. Although there's industrial artists that keeps the same tone all the way through as well. Just like straight up metal bands. I like both, but I'm leaning towards the bands that uses different sounds hehe
This heavily reminds me of the guitar tone shaping we did for me yesterday with our sound engineer. It's the kind of sound I wanted and use now (mostly on 7 and 8 string guitars).
Yeah that's a very nice sounding tone and can be used in many genre also. I still need to get an 8 string guitar :D
@@Lidocain777 good choice.
I used to use my Tone 21 SansAmp for distortion, along with the EMGs on my Strat to get more industrial tones. Since I don’t have either anymore, I use Guitar Amp Pro within Logic. I like to throw an exciter on it too to get a really bright tone. And then put a hi-pass filter to make room for a synth bass.
Thats a cool setup! There's so many ways to get a good tone right now. Most of the time we already have everything we need hehe
I had it sounding tight using a Marshall JVM205H boosted with a Boss SD1. Also, I’ll use an EVH 5150 boosted with a Maxon OD808 overdrive pedal. That’s using a single Shure SM57 mic on an Orange PPC212 with V30 speakers. Double tracked. Yet as a plug-in, I’d use the STL Tones Eddie.
that's a great setup man, it's pretty much the same setup as what I do in the video but with hardware! 🤘🏻
I love tone questing to get similar tones to my favorite albums, but even better is when you dial in something really awesome. My go to metal tone has become the Purple Nightmare on the STL Lasse Lammert suite into a couple of ENGL cab IRs from ML Sound Lab. So chunky and snarly.
Thanks for another great video. Awesome t-shirt. I saw them live for the first time in 1986 and was completely blown away.
Lucky you! Yeah man SP are the GOATs hehe 🤘
Saw them 88 in Germany and the show actually changed my life. I’m freakin happy I was alive at that time.
@@obiedecker4038 haha wow I would kill to go back in the 80s/early 90s to see them live. I think the first time I saw them live it was around 2010 haha I'm 37 so yeah in the 90's I was a bit too young lol
Sick riff
Sick tone
Just sickkkkkkkkkkkkk
haha thanks man 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Fun vids thx like the ministry one as well.
Go to quote:
"THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE!"
😂😂 thanks man 🤘🏻 shout out to my french accent
@@Tonepusher hell yes! Cest bon.
I got a pretty close tone to Dino's on Soul of a New Machine with the STL Tonality Lasse Lammert plugin which has the hot rodded JCM 800 and a Mesa Rectifier cab with V30's and a tube screamer. Brutal tone
You also could have gone with the NEMBRINI XSTASY (Bogner Ecstasy ) AMP SIM for that hot rodded Marshall sound that Dino uses. Use Channel 3, scoop the mids a little, higher presence, modest treble and use an overdrive pedal to boost and tighten low end. Done.
This is quickly becoming my favorite channel.
haha thanks a lot for the support 🙏🏻 and the comment hehe Makes me want to share more and make videos 😊
@@Tonepusher, not a lot of channels cover stuff like this. I think You found your niche. I know I certainly appreciate it.
@@vuxnut Yeah thanks man, took me a while to find my niche. I've been listening and producing Industrial/ebm and dark music in general for 20+ years now so it came naturally. However, I didn't think there would be an audience that big for it hehe 🤘
Great tones
thanks man :) 🤘
I have the Paul Landers signature Sansamp and its got a clean tone and a Feuer tone and a Wasser tone, and use your imagination on that. Toans for days.
Yeah man! that's a pretty cool pedal and cheap on top of that! I love it too 🤘
Sick riffing, dude!
hey! thanks man 🤘🏻
Great video as always dude.
When it comes to Godflesh, their tone is much less tight and aggressive than Dinos for example , there’s a huge emphasis on Bens bass in their mixes so the whole thing sounds super heavy and sludgey compared to other industrial bands
Yeah you're right Godflesh is more of a Death metal tone.
When I saw them BC was running his bass into an HM 2 then right into the front of the amp. Broadrick was playing a 7 string and it was crushing as well. Macbook for the drum tracks.
@@NavelOrangeGazer That's interesting! So the HM2 is the secret sauce haha
kvdos for the skinnypupy shirt
haha thanks dude, I'd wear it every day 😂
one of my favourite industrial guitar tones is the one on "Children of Sorrow" by HEALTH. Pretty cool
haha yeah you're right that tone sounds really good! Has a 90s vibe to it too.
Cool stuff! This sort became an industrial version of Surprise! You're Dead! from Faith No More! 😂
haha thanks man, I never heard of that song. I'll go check it ou haha 🤔
@@Tonepusher It's a cool song if you're into the older Faith No More!
@@DEADLINETV tbh I never really listened to them. I just did and it's true haha the riff kinda ''feels'' like it. Almost the same palm mute rhythm.
@@Tonepusher not that it really matters, but yeah, it did remind me of the song! Hey, if you didn't get a copyright strike, you're fine!
@@DEADLINETV lol yeah, my worst nightmare 🤣
Odd that you mentioned Richard kruspe but left out Paul landers, the other half of rammstein’s guitar sound. they wouldn’t have the iconic guitar sound they have without the blend they achieve between Richard’s amp and Paul’s sansamp.
surprised no mention of Die Krupps & KMFDM
These are classics too hehe I can't list them all!! haha I love KMFDM but ngl I never really listened to Die Krupps. Shame on me
Sick shirt!
thanks brother :) 💪
You are unique... AGAIN 🤩
haha 🎉 thank you man 🤘🏻
Industrial... I will use some vst. What is a point in creating industrial, "future" sound with marshall etc. - in fact it sounds very classic... Too classic in my taste.
I think you're right and also wrong haha You can do VERY creative things using any common amp/cab setup. There's soooo many factors. The riffs being the most important I think.
But you can add pedals, fxs, resampling etc...
People have been using the same gear for years and years. There's a reason.
@@Tonepusher true. On the other hand - industrial "tone" in my opinion doesn't exist. I prefer this bands which experiment with the sounds. Doesn't matter if it is guitar, drums, whatever...
@@kudus9235 haha true, I mean there is some tones that are associated with the genre like the trademark NIN guitar tone for exemple. But you're right, any good guitar tone COULD be industrial.
With this video I wanted to share an accessible way of making a cool guitar tone that would fit pretty much any mix.
Then people can be as creative as they want with it hehe
@@kudus9235 yeah I do too, I like when there's a consistency across the sound but at the same time I like when every song is a whole different world. I think it's the hardest for industrial music producers...to sound different but at the same time not too much haha
Will you ever be doing anything for Harsh EBM/Aggrotech like Suicide Commando, Grendel, etc?
For sure 100% still don't know where to begin! haha
@@Tonepusher Same, I've been struggling so hard to replicate the sound of mid-00s aggrotech. Was hoping you would have the answers I seek 😅
@@saintmorior What bands exactly you have in mind when you say ''mid-00s aggrotech''. It would be easier for me to answer you questions if I know which bands hehe
@@Tonepusher Suicide Commando, Grendel, Combichrist, Agonoize, Hocico all come to mind, although Combichrist would technically be more Powernoise.
@@saintmorior yeah especially early Combichrist was very very noisy hehe But SO good though...Intruder Alert!
Okay I'll take notes hehe some are easier to reproduce than others though.
But all of them at some point sounded pretty similar I'd say.
Dino used a modded Marshall but it wasn’t a JCM 800
Well, if you google it, pretty much everywhere says that it was a JCM 800. I'm curious, what was it then? Do you have any infos that we don't? hehe
Im pretty sure he used the jcm 800 but he also used an 8100 valvestate
I know the guy, been to the practice room, I saw what I saw.
Wrong. ua-cam.com/video/e5CqnitdrZE/v-deo.htmlsi=RfhQHMJJ6tKqdZDa
@@donsmith5385what was it exactly then?
Lol get mine its a 98 lol pppffttt I don’t need a replacement becasue I’m not an ad actor lol this was from an ad comments back nothing to do with this video
Its a tough world. I DONT like ministry politics. But i respect thier right. And still listen to thier music. Even the new stuff. Catchy. Vote trump😂
lol well it's hard to differentiate the artists from the person. I'm still listening to Burzum from time to time although I don't really like the person hehe
It isnt even their politics, the... lyrics are just too cheesy, and not in a fun way. Too on the nose.
@@dougmasters4561 haha yeah I get what you mean. NGL I more into the old stuff, newer albums are... okay
@Tonepusher yeah like the tunes are good, the riffs. But, and it aint like their lyrics were ever a beacon of poetry in the first place. So its ok. If the tunes rock they rock.
Stop listening to their music. They don’t want you. Go listen to kid rock
industrial the biggest and best homosex music genre in das world, Ja!
lolll Is that why they're all shirtless on album covers 👀 haha
@@Tonepusher 🤣naked ripped masculine european men with deep sexy masuline hopefully german voices mainly in music videos in factories or dilapidated warehouses moving in a way that looks labourious sometimes wearing some kind of BDSM leather 😍😍
Metal fans being bigoted? So shocking. I dropped my monocle.
@@thepostapocalyptictrio4762 don't be so unrational my pedigree chum, there's nothing wrong with poking fun and things you like, i personally love bands like Rammstein and Laibach, it's the whole aesthetic, naked european dudes in a factory or warehouse somewhere maybe some guy wearing some raunchy leather outfit, alot of sexual innuendoes, lighten up, nobody's hurt by some dude from europe saying homosex and das world the germans and the british have always poked fun at eachother, a bigot means having some sort of prejudice /hostility to a specific group,, typical Americans, twisting our meanings and butchering the beautiful English language... :(
@@thepostapocalyptictrio4762 hahaha 🧐