Hey Kevin, I love that you're uploading more now. No pressure of course. Do it at your own pace. Life and other things dictate what you can do. But I appreciate your uploads. I will comment on the video once I watch it.
I think it is weird that he asked if you were single out of nowhere. Some guys like the fun of going right up to the line, but not crossing it. Its a flirtatious game where they can feel the excitement of flirting without actually following through on anything. That happened to me when I was younger with another guy. We flirted and did kind of a dance where we never did anything sexual, but the flirtation without actually doing anything was the fun of it. And I was religious and so was he. Same religion. So we knew we couldnt do anything, but we had fun flirting in an innocent way.
@KevenTalks DL guys are like that though. Like you said, if it's not just a hookup situation, best to just move on. It's not fair to the out guys though who they are playing games with.
@@KevenTalks Well you are Kenen. He isnt. It will take him a little longer. He will probably marry and have kids... and have sex on the side with men. He will break his wife's heart, and embarrass his kids. He will be on anti depressants and drinking. Aren't you lucky you have avoided all that? Look to the mother Freud always said. ''If its not one thing its the mother''.
The guy sounds like his self esteem may not be up to par and he's not too sure of himself on taking changes. IDK Sorry you had to hear this from him. You have a really good personality to go with those "bedroom eyes" of yours. You will find someone that appreciates you as you!! .. #COMPLIMENT Take care..
I’m traveling too and at a non gay bar last night three people asked my sexual orientation weird! Also unnecessary question and kind of rude unless you are trying to get with me or set me up Just like asking if single
Totally. So tacky. For a long time, stuff like this was why I stopped hanging out at "straight bars." But interestingly, I'm slowly making a return as gay bars are getting tackier and more unhinged (not sure if it's reality or my perspective, but it feels that way...).
This kind of ambiguity got a big kick in the pants in frequency when the "metrosexual" fad of the 1980s set in. Guys were carrying purses and dressing more fashionably in ways that definitely good kinda gay, even if they were as solid as Gibralter in their straight sexuality. @@KevenTalks
Not only confuse like them, but some DL men are looking for other men ( DL men ) who have the same agenda as them. Base on DL guy i know he said if i checking a guy and we have nothing in common ( for example beein married or in a relationship with a woman ) they will leave you alone.
He was just letting you know, I’m discrete but I want you so be chill. It’s always mutual but his lifestyle he won’t change or can’t change but he wants inside you. Now you decide if you want to deal with being his secret, that or sex work and get money for keeping the secret or both. If they do this often, we have the power so get them and the benefits. Don’t shame em, society shames those men and culture says either be out and proud or Straight and bi discretely but “pick a side” sort of attitude. Female sexuality rules and male sexuality is shamed, not everyone can be as proud as us, I accept these men, I get their plight.
I hear you and totally get that, that in a sense he was saying, "here are my boundaries - if you're down to f*** let me know" but my confusion was over the fact that he didn't make a move beyond this conversation. I texted him "nice meeting you" after to see what would happen, and he sent a passive response agreeing. So, that to me is mixed signals (?)
Hi Keven, no need to apologize for recording a video in a Hotel room. Your presence, interaction and thoughts are most important. Sorry that you have these experiences but it says a lot about your kind and approachable personality.
Keven.. I know this video is old. It just popped up in my feed on April 7, 2024. I do not know what to say about the sincerity of people. He did all of that talking just to say that. It was not with your time especially you see it for what it is. I just do not have the energy to chase people down. My thing is if someone is not interested, just leave you alone. You do not need that kind of conversation. You want to know where you are before you invest time. He showed you who he is so you know. I see you were in my state too. Take care Keven.
Ok, let me give you some perspective from a gay Muslim myself. From what you'd described this man appeared to be a friendly person. So he had no qualms whatsoever about making friends with anyone or strike a conversation for that matter. As Muslims, we're taught to be polite and friendly to everyone despite what the media had been indoctrinated the general public with. I mean I too had that experience whereby I had this great friendship with a guy only to find out that he's straight. And I kept on telling myself that he might be a closet case or bi. BUT I can say if the case where he wants to get you your pants only happened in the movies. In real life, it's not going to happen. Secondly, the reason why he asked you if you're married is a common question among Muslims especially [Muslim] men. The West might perceive that as being rude or inappropriate to ask but to be married is a bliss in itself. So there's that certain envy why he sort of come across as "whining" (if I may say it that way) that he's still single. Yes, the West might see marriage in Islam as somewhat a sensitive topic with regards to the polygamy thing. But the thing is, a man may marry more than one AS LONG AS he's fair to every one of his wives. For example, if he buys one wife a house he must provide the rest of his wives with the same house. But that's another story. HOWEVER, as a gay Muslim myself I am often "confronted" with that question of whether if I'm married or not. And therein lies the predicament on whether to be honest with them or to respectfully avoid that question entirely.
Straight men are very flirty ngl. It's in their nature to tease us unintentionally. But they are just sexual animals at the end of the day. We pick up on that but its not intended for us.
I remember a gay friend, a muscular and husky dude, in Ottawa who propositioned a really cute little straight guy younger than himself, and the kid actually took him up on it, saying that he really ought to find out what being fucked in the ass really feels like, just for the sake of his general culture. The straight boy could hardly walk straight afterwards, since Richard was so mightily hung, but he did carry through. And that was in 1978, at that!
I've ran into this kind of situation a few times before. Sometimes it's really just straight guys who are oddly friendly. The two instances of this I can think of are guys I have met in Burlington, Vermont. Both I met on the UVM campus, so definitely a space where being gay would be OK. Knowing them for years after also showed no signs of them being on the DL or whatever. I also wonder in this situation if this guy thought he saw another Muslim (you), and wanted to connect?
I get what you're saying, and over the years there's definitely been times where I was like "maybe it was just in my head" - but the older I get, the more I realize you feel what you feel for a reason, and that you should trust your instincts... I don't think a straight guy would ask if I was single out of context like that...
@@KevenTalks It's really hard to determine what's in your hear, what they're intentionally putting out there, social ineptitude, and what might actually just be differences in communication. Next time you run into this, if they ask if you're single, hit 'em with "I am, would you like to go out for dinner tonight?" Pull them in before they have the chance to back out LOL. It 100% was a situation where he could have chickened out after learning you were single.
@@ethanamazing lol I kinda did that actually. After the whole single thing, I said "how long are you in town? I leave in a few days" ...to which he responded, "I leave tomorrow morning..." Kinda ended there lol
@KevenTalks the fact that he hold a conversation with you that long, yet alone asking if you were single. Gives it out. The problem is when we tell our story people will say its in our heads but after some experience and the vibe you pick up, you will know and only you know what you incounter with that person until more and more ppl start having the same experience as you. My thing is with these DL men they know you are gay base on what my DL friend told me. They knows
It’s weird he asked if you were single. That usually implies a follow through. Guys don’t usually ask that unless they are interested. Was he around your age? It’s possible that he is trying to settle down with a woman now but used to date men
That’s actually interesting because I think most traditional Muslims like to marry on the younger side and sometimes their parents even set their kids up
....this is totally random, and superficial, but, your eyes are absolutely gorgeous. I wish you the best of luck with your channel - greets from Berlin
Maybe he would’ve hookuped with you if you asked him to or you think not? Also in all seriousness why wouldn’t this guy just get a mail order bride if he’s having that much difficulty? I’m sure there are a ton of nice Muslim girls who would love the green card especially if he’s good looking
Gaydar can be something to take into consideration, but I think that you needed more to go on re. this guy than that. There are men who give off a deceptive gay vibe and it can be really embarassing to be caught up short cruising a straight guy. Especially when someone is of another culture, you need to be more careful. Muslim men have sensibilities and male behaviour that is not what you expect as an occidental. In Muslim culture, for example, men who are not gay at all get (as it seems to us) very physical with each other, especially in matters like holding hands, touching each other a whole lot, etc. Your dude may not have been gay at all, just fairly typically Muslim.
@@KevenTalks as a muslim ts he is partially right Muslim culture is not a monolith , in all the stan countries that is common, like holding hands between men but other parts of Muslim world its not very common. But you're also right the statement of need to marry is not a statement of sexuality rather a statement of responsibility. A responsible Muslim must marry (many honestly don't care about your sexuality if you're married your obligations is lifted) . Its like judaism marriage and family is a mitzvot (a commandment).
Well, Kevin, the Muslim nation that I know best is Anatolia (modern Turkey and historic Kurdistan). I am even a member of a Kurdish clan, the Efe-Akboz, with a Kurdish name. Kurds are less severe than traditionalist Turks, but essentially all of these deceptive-seeming male behaviour traits are shared by Turks and Kurds alike. I have many, many Kurdish and other Muslim friends and acquaintances, in Kurdistan, in Istanbul, and in Canada. Despite all of that familiarity, I still would not risk trusting my Gaydar insticts as you are doing. @@mr3111
I do have to agree that some Muslim can come across extra friendly and Flirty with their approach. But i know they are str8. However there some guys that will give off a vibe, that they are into you and you can feel it
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He wanted you to say you were on the down low too! He wanted you to say ya I’m married, he would’ve been in your bed 🛌 that night 😂
lol probably!
This title is like looool. It would be like 'poor girl' - worst mistake of her life 😂😂
Oh that's interesting. and definitely annoying if they're giving you a vibe then switch up on you.
Hey Kevin, I love that you're uploading more now. No pressure of course. Do it at your own pace. Life and other things dictate what you can do. But I appreciate your uploads. I will comment on the video once I watch it.
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Very confusing. I’m not interested in dating anyone who is married and am put off by anyone who is trying to cheat with me.
100%
Keven, your gaydar was spot on. Sorry for the disappointment, you deserve better!!
Many people are just giving superficial face value these days.
He is closeted, looking for a hook up with another similarly closeted person...
I think it is weird that he asked if you were single out of nowhere. Some guys like the fun of going right up to the line, but not crossing it. Its a flirtatious game where they can feel the excitement of flirting without actually following through on anything. That happened to me when I was younger with another guy. We flirted and did kind of a dance where we never did anything sexual, but the flirtation without actually doing anything was the fun of it. And I was religious and so was he. Same religion. So we knew we couldnt do anything, but we had fun flirting in an innocent way.
Right, this could be it. But it's pathetic at this point - we're grown adults now! 🤦🏻♂
@KevenTalks DL guys are like that though. Like you said, if it's not just a hookup situation, best to just move on. It's not fair to the out guys though who they are playing games with.
Yeah, and wouldn't you know that it is the cutest and sexiest of these straights who flirt like that the most and the most appealingly!
@user-ho8br1cw8c i agree 100%
Complete waist of time
@@KevenTalks Well you are Kenen. He isnt. It will take him a little longer. He will probably marry and have kids... and have sex on the side with men.
He will break his wife's heart, and embarrass his kids. He will be on anti depressants and drinking. Aren't you lucky you have avoided all that?
Look to the mother Freud always said. ''If its not one thing its the mother''.
I really enjoy watching your videos - a) interesting and b) good english practice….since Im european 😅 So thanks a lot. Greetings from Germany 😊
lol thanks for watching Sascha!
The guy sounds like his self esteem may not be up to par and he's not too sure of himself on taking changes. IDK Sorry you had to hear this from him. You have a really good personality to go with those "bedroom eyes" of yours. You will find someone that appreciates you as you!! .. #COMPLIMENT Take care..
Thanks for the kind words!
I’m traveling too and at a non gay bar last night three people asked my sexual orientation weird! Also unnecessary question and kind of rude unless you are trying to get with me or set me up Just like asking if single
Totally. So tacky. For a long time, stuff like this was why I stopped hanging out at "straight bars." But interestingly, I'm slowly making a return as gay bars are getting tackier and more unhinged (not sure if it's reality or my perspective, but it feels that way...).
This kind of ambiguity got a big kick in the pants in frequency when the "metrosexual" fad of the 1980s set in. Guys were carrying purses and dressing more fashionably in ways that definitely good kinda gay, even if they were as solid as Gibralter in their straight sexuality. @@KevenTalks
Not only confuse like them, but some DL men are looking for other men ( DL men ) who have the same agenda as them. Base on DL guy i know he said if i checking a guy and we have nothing in common ( for example beein married or in a relationship with a woman ) they will leave you alone.
100% I think this may have very well been the case
He was just letting you know, I’m discrete but I want you so be chill. It’s always mutual but his lifestyle he won’t change or can’t change but he wants inside you. Now you decide if you want to deal with being his secret, that or sex work and get money for keeping the secret or both. If they do this often, we have the power so get them and the benefits. Don’t shame em, society shames those men and culture says either be out and proud or Straight and bi discretely but “pick a side” sort of attitude. Female sexuality rules and male sexuality is shamed, not everyone can be as proud as us, I accept these men, I get their plight.
I hear you and totally get that, that in a sense he was saying, "here are my boundaries - if you're down to f*** let me know" but my confusion was over the fact that he didn't make a move beyond this conversation. I texted him "nice meeting you" after to see what would happen, and he sent a passive response agreeing. So, that to me is mixed signals (?)
it is actually signaling that he is not looking for love...
Hi Keven, no need to apologize for recording a video in a Hotel room. Your presence, interaction and thoughts are most important.
Sorry that you have these experiences but it says a lot about your kind and approachable personality.
Keven.. I know this video is old. It just popped up in my feed on April 7, 2024. I do not know what to say about the sincerity of people. He did all of that talking just to say that. It was not with your time especially you see it for what it is. I just do not have the energy to chase people down. My thing is if someone is not interested, just leave you alone. You do not need that kind of conversation. You want to know where you are before you invest time. He showed you who he is so you know. I see you were in my state too. Take care Keven.
100%. People are so ridiculous with their mixed signals...
@@KevenTalks Indeed. But it can be frustrating and annoying for someone wanting to genuinely meet someone. We have enough issues in the community.
Ok, let me give you some perspective from a gay Muslim myself. From what you'd described this man appeared to be a friendly person. So he had no qualms whatsoever about making friends with anyone or strike a conversation for that matter. As Muslims, we're taught to be polite and friendly to everyone despite what the media had been indoctrinated the general public with.
I mean I too had that experience whereby I had this great friendship with a guy only to find out that he's straight. And I kept on telling myself that he might be a closet case or bi.
BUT I can say if the case where he wants to get you your pants only happened in the movies. In real life, it's not going to happen.
Secondly, the reason why he asked you if you're married is a common question among Muslims especially [Muslim] men. The West might perceive that as being rude or inappropriate to ask but to be married is a bliss in itself. So there's that certain envy why he sort of come across as "whining" (if I may say it that way) that he's still single.
Yes, the West might see marriage in Islam as somewhat a sensitive topic with regards to the polygamy thing. But the thing is, a man may marry more than one AS LONG AS he's fair to every one of his wives. For example, if he buys one wife a house he must provide the rest of his wives with the same house. But that's another story.
HOWEVER, as a gay Muslim myself I am often "confronted" with that question of whether if I'm married or not. And therein lies the predicament on whether to be honest with them or to respectfully avoid that question entirely.
He probably recognized you from here.
nah doubt it
Straight men are very flirty ngl. It's in their nature to tease us unintentionally. But they are just sexual animals at the end of the day. We pick up on that but its not intended for us.
I remember a gay friend, a muscular and husky dude, in Ottawa who propositioned a really cute little straight guy younger than himself, and the kid actually took him up on it, saying that he really ought to find out what being fucked in the ass really feels like, just for the sake of his general culture. The straight boy could hardly walk straight afterwards, since Richard was so mightily hung, but he did carry through. And that was in 1978, at that!
I've ran into this kind of situation a few times before. Sometimes it's really just straight guys who are oddly friendly. The two instances of this I can think of are guys I have met in Burlington, Vermont. Both I met on the UVM campus, so definitely a space where being gay would be OK. Knowing them for years after also showed no signs of them being on the DL or whatever. I also wonder in this situation if this guy thought he saw another Muslim (you), and wanted to connect?
I get what you're saying, and over the years there's definitely been times where I was like "maybe it was just in my head" - but the older I get, the more I realize you feel what you feel for a reason, and that you should trust your instincts...
I don't think a straight guy would ask if I was single out of context like that...
@@KevenTalks It's really hard to determine what's in your hear, what they're intentionally putting out there, social ineptitude, and what might actually just be differences in communication. Next time you run into this, if they ask if you're single, hit 'em with "I am, would you like to go out for dinner tonight?" Pull them in before they have the chance to back out LOL. It 100% was a situation where he could have chickened out after learning you were single.
@@ethanamazing lol I kinda did that actually. After the whole single thing, I said "how long are you in town? I leave in a few days"
...to which he responded, "I leave tomorrow morning..."
Kinda ended there lol
@KevenTalks the fact that he hold a conversation with you that long, yet alone asking if you were single. Gives it out. The problem is when we tell our story people will say its in our heads but after some experience and the vibe you pick up, you will know and only you know what you incounter with that person until more and more ppl start having the same experience as you. My thing is with these DL men they know you are gay base on what my DL friend told me. They knows
@@len1045678 Exactly!!! After a while you notice patterns and know when to trust your instincts
It’s weird he asked if you were single. That usually implies a follow through. Guys don’t usually ask that unless they are interested. Was he around your age? It’s possible that he is trying to settle down with a woman now but used to date men
Exactly. Strange to go there and back right out.
It was tough to figure out his age but I'd estimate late 30s, maybe early 40s.
That’s actually interesting because I think most traditional Muslims like to marry on the younger side and sometimes their parents even set their kids up
....this is totally random, and superficial, but, your eyes are absolutely gorgeous. I wish you the best of luck with your channel - greets from Berlin
lol thank you! 😘
Maybe he would’ve hookuped with you if you asked him to or you think not? Also in all seriousness why wouldn’t this guy just get a mail order bride if he’s having that much difficulty? I’m sure there are a ton of nice Muslim girls who would love the green card especially if he’s good looking
lol definitely a lot of question marks
Kevin, if you are interessed in this man then write him you have his contact.
Gaydar can be something to take into consideration, but I think that you needed more to go on re. this guy than that. There are men who give off a deceptive gay vibe and it can be really embarassing to be caught up short cruising a straight guy. Especially when someone is of another culture, you need to be more careful. Muslim men have sensibilities and male behaviour that is not what you expect as an occidental. In Muslim culture, for example, men who are not gay at all get (as it seems to us) very physical with each other, especially in matters like holding hands, touching each other a whole lot, etc. Your dude may not have been gay at all, just fairly typically Muslim.
I felt what I felt, trust me on this one 🤷🏻♂️
@@KevenTalks as a muslim ts he is partially right Muslim culture is not a monolith , in all the stan countries that is common, like holding hands between men but other parts of Muslim world its not very common. But you're also right the statement of need to marry is not a statement of sexuality rather a statement of responsibility. A responsible Muslim must marry (many honestly don't care about your sexuality if you're married your obligations is lifted) . Its like judaism marriage and family is a mitzvot (a commandment).
Well, Kevin, the Muslim nation that I know best is Anatolia (modern Turkey and historic Kurdistan). I am even a member of a Kurdish clan, the Efe-Akboz, with a Kurdish name. Kurds are less severe than traditionalist Turks, but essentially all of these deceptive-seeming male behaviour traits are shared by Turks and Kurds alike. I have many, many Kurdish and other Muslim friends and acquaintances, in Kurdistan, in Istanbul, and in Canada. Despite all of that familiarity, I still would not risk trusting my Gaydar insticts as you are doing. @@mr3111
I do have to agree that some Muslim can come across extra friendly and Flirty with their approach. But i know they are str8. However there some guys that will give off a vibe, that they are into you and you can feel it
Exactly@@len1045678