I always forget that the stars for each chamber don't reset when you restart the whole floor, so you can just go back with a new team and focus on the other chambers
I'd say the only requirement are 2+ decently well built 5* per team. Don't see how anyone could struggle outside of something like "4 star only challenge". I ran my usual Yoi/Chiori/Yelan/Zhongli on one side and Noelle/Fischl/Xilonen/Furina on the other and had no problems ... and then I even realized I just did the flying wolf boss with Noelle/Xilonen and used Yoi for the Natlan boss with the shield that breaks easy with nightsoul attacks so it would've been even easier if I had switched teams.
@@planetary-rendez-vousAh yes, encouraging off meta teams, like... Neuvillette furina kazuha xilonen, or arlecchino overload. Nice that such overlooked teams get a chance to shine
what? havent seen that "event" before? every single time that wolf is in abyss, zhongliless and now xilonenless players use Ning for that, nothing new.
@@jonnevitu4979 I remember using just lvl 20 Ning + the 3 hyperbloom dudes to kill the wolflord and still have the damage to pass the other 2 chambers, but it was in chamber 1 in a long time ago so I dont know if it's still possible to pass the dps check now
@@jonnevitu4979 and how many times has the golden wolf lord been in the abyss in 2024? because I specifically mentioned 2024 abyss. I’m a triple crowned Ningguang main who uses her as often as humanly possible forgive me for being excited someone else used one of the least used characters in Abyss history.
I tried it with Kachina hyperbloom then reality set in when I realized her skill was 20 second cooldown... never again Ningguang with Wandering Evenstar and 4pc Instructor saved the day!
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 eventually you will be able to clear it. I never played for clearing abyss untill last year on lineys and navias release. With lineys i got to clear floor 11 and just now a few months back i got to 36* for the first time. And i started back in 2.5 so it took me a little over 2 years before i actually did it. You only miss out on 2 pulls every month anyways if u stop af floor 10
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 Just use sucrose on either half and you'll be fine. dont even need to build her if your dps is otherwise good enough honestly
A valid strategy is genuinely using two teams to clear chambers one and two and then resetting with teams specifically for chamber three. Even if they suck at one and two you already three starred them so who cares
I restarted with a different team for chamber 3 and died like 7 times to the Papilla. Somehow it was harder to survive that fight while taking my time than it was when trying for full stars 😅
@@hedgehugsthey’re both so terrible 😭 on one hand the wenut is more flexible in team building and the wolflord highly incentivizes you to bring geo, but on the other hand the wenut wastes SO much time underground and I don’t think it stays knocked down as long as the wolflord. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I think I’d rather fight the wolflord.
The fact that he's using four 1.0 characters really says something about how little choice we have with newer 4 star characters or maybe Bennet Xiangling and Xingqiu are just too good. its kinda funny that he had to use Ningguang for Geo on the Wolf like Geo 4 star options really suck. The Papilla is one of the most annoying things to build a team for so I just used hyperbloom for it, everything else I could breeze though with investment and good characters like Yelan furina. like Hutao Yelan Furina Xilonen made it easy to 0 cycle the wolf so he didnt go invulnerable. keep in mind I have all their signatures but furina so I am not relatable to a new player but man the restrictions for teams this abyss are crazy for newer players.
We do have good modern 4 stars and a bunch of really solid ones they're all used for different things Yaoyao Gaming Sumeru Miku Chevreuse Kuki Sethos Ororon Kirara Charolette There's nothing wrong with making 4*s fit certain niches
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlame Kuki, Chevreuse and Yao Yao are the only really SOLID units there. Gaming and Sethos are DPS units that suck at their roles. Ororon's niche is incredibly low damage. Kirara is a non-Baizhu unit. Sumeru Miku needs 5* Anemo units to be good.
It's got 5 waves, includes a boss with resistance and animation time, beasts with resistance, eroding lava with Pyro status to ruin reactions and spread out eremites. So yeah it's hardest one to get through
I think thats a really good thing, earlier hardest part used to be in 12-3 or even 12-2 Having in 12-1 really gives alot of flexibility to be able to try many teams against hardest stuff.
F2P, I just arrived at AR 59 It was the easiest abyss in recent times, especially the second side Mualani & Clorinde go boom My sixth abyss in a row making 36 stars the fifth in a row that I don't even need to use my Furina Abyss is a matter of planning You enter Homdgcat and see the future abyss and IT, then you manage your resources EZ Game EZ Life
I starting to see the trend. Last abyss or IT they put enemies with weakness to geo, promoting zhongli for geo and shield. Then what you know, next banner is zhongli. Same thing here, i wish i have mavuika and clorinde so i can easily finish 12-2
I think it’s just because the emphasis on having specific characters. Most people don’t have strong characters built that also do things like long range damage and or good against specific boss resistance or support characters that do well against the specific boss or enemy. I know the first chamber is always a breeze but it’s a pain trying to essentially “meet boss conditions” for my other teams
the only way to make it worse would be to put the wenut somewhere i went for 6 stars on floor 12, im kinda too horizontal invested to actually have the dmg to burst these massive bosses
Horizontal investment is a pretty good decision imo. Keeps game fun with many characters to play with. Depending on how close you are to clearing, it can be fun to make use of the 30 day period to plan out some optimal vertical investments to push the performance further. Eventually the gap will bridge when similar bosses return next time.
It was a real dick move to put Papilla into abyss so early when most people don't have one of the Natlan character that are good at breaking it's sheild. I failed for about an hour before i finally managed to beat it with 3 seconds left 😭
there's still a plenty of time before the next reset, Mauvika/Citlali/PMC havers will be able to participate in this abyss.. that is if they pre-farmed
Any high hit per second character will either shred the shield faster than or just as fast as the Natlan characters I ran double hydro hyperbloom in the 2nd half and I deleted the shield in ~10s just by doing my rotation
@@Limen2402I can't tell if this is a joke but in case it isn't full em on the hydro unit does nothing on hyperbloom. The electro unit is the only one who needs the em bc they're the ones who trigger the reaction
As a mobile player with 300 ping, I took the easy route: Neuvillette, Furina, Xilonen, Zhongli first half and Nahida, Yelan, Xingqiu, Kuki second half. Cleared chambers 2 & 3 with a minute to spare, chamber 1 with 20 seconds to spare. My builds and artifact quality are just decent, BUT I do have C1R1 Neuvillette and one of the best C0R0 Furinas in the world (0.2% Akasha). The hardest abyss remains to be 3.7 with the lectors and element requirements. No cause to cry in Lector- and Herald-less abysses.
We used the same exact teams, except I had Kazuha instead of Zhongli. Pretty foolish, considering it took me two whole minutes to take down the Wolflord with just Xilonen as my choice for Geo. Thankfully, Nahida hyperbloom demolished the Aeonblight Drake. Just hyperbloom things!
I tried doing that thing and said fk it cause it was a sponge. Destroying the bombs did no dmg to him. Wait is local legend not the same as night trial?
This Abyss is fine, I just really hate how restrictive the requirements are. It feels like I am playing Whack-A-Mole avoiding all the annoying mechanics of these bosses. In particular I really dislike Tenebrous. It pushes you to either use really specific teams that have many instances of damage, or just slot in a Natlani character. Ultimately it's pretty easy, I am just a little annoyed the best teams seemed to be Powerwash/Furina on the first half, and then Xilonen/Arlecchino second half. Not really a damage problem, just any other combination of units feels really clunky in this Abyss I have come to find.
@@EdenVix Yeah I just did a run with Clorinde and Fischl on an aggravate comp. Completely shreds the shield, mostly thanks to Fischl. She continues to be the goat years later. Side note, Clorinde is giga underrated
i found chamber 2 side 2 to be the worst 😭😭 somehow i got through it with Alhaitham quickblook but since I don’t have natlan characters except kachina, it was a colossal nightmare. first abyss i might actually skip out on the 4* only run Teams: Navia/Zhongli/Furina/Bennett Alhaitham/Yelan/Nahida/Kuki both carries C1 but i don’t think that’s too relevant except for navia
@@shi-chan5779i mean, you do need really fast elemental application for that boss and xingqiu applies A Lot of hydro, I'd say he's definitely the better option for that chamber
@EdenVix Maybd but I would guess his alhaitham is more invested than his xinqui. Now double hdyro is nice for less Energy issues but then again double dendro hyperbloom is just better. I would bet althaitham is better even in this niche situation
@@el7284 i tried that and it just didn’t go as easily! probably skill issue on my part. my xingqiu decently built (160/60 with 180 ERR on fav) my alhaitham is quite good so I just ended up doing way more damage (240/80, 321 EM) edit: i should clarify that I never had a problem breaking his phase, it was more so that my navia isn’t the best in terms of artifacts, so even tho my HB is good, i’d still end up a little short on time; alhaitham just did more damage to clear out the boss
This abyss was torture with the Nathan flower and wolf lord. I had to go through three times with a different team for each chamber and still had two end on the 7 00 mark with not a second to spare
You should change your settings to only capture sound from the game, and not all windows sounds. Or maybe turn off the windows bloops because they're extremely annoying
Personally had no issues for vertically invested hutao and alhaitham. But id like to point out rathalos shield breaking take 30s for furina/yelan/xingqiu. Thats like operating minus one rotation. You are damaged check by the 2nd half of chamber 2 to kill him in about 45s after the shield gets down or else you get another shield phase plopped down. Then we have the chamber 1 lava goons that may just spread away. Also primo heo vishap stalling. In chamber 3 u also get to experience wolflord stalling. This didnt feel like a character check, it was quite literally artificial stalling.
Btw every abyss that everyone says is garbage is the most fun i have in abyss ever. I do live the malding aspect I have cleared every abyss since 4.3 with cybo and keqing but this on i couldnt. So i cleared with f2p ayaka and keqing
I don't think this Abyss is harder per-se, it just demands very specifically Hydro+Geo in the first team and the first side has stalling mechanics. The 2nd side is decent otherwise.
Same. I like the puzzle solving aspect of coming up with a team to beat the Abyss. I dislike it when I can just brute force it with the most powerful meta team each time. Top team requires some hydro and geo. Bottom team mostly requires high rate of fire and a character that can deal with Aeon Blight Drake. If you do not have these then you can just brute force if you are overwhelmingly powerful like killing the Wolflord before he can get his heads out or just killing the Tenebrous Papilla even with 80% resist.
every single floor in 12 felt like a restriction on a character to the point where I ran like C6 Chiori Zhongli Furina Charlotte Arlecchino Xilonen Yelan Bennett and then had to go back for 12-2-2 because of that stupid 2nd floor boss (hate it) Edit: I didn't realize Overload was good here... I thought I was forced to bring a Natlan character SMH (I'm so stupid)
pretty sure u need 3 apps of Geo to break a wolf's head, so you'd need 1 burst and 1 skill(?), or 3 skills per wolf head which is too long a time in cooldowns :( (the last attack in her normal attack string is Geo infused also rite? but itd still be too long)
you would've thought that Hoyo doesn't need to make an abyss side that feels like it's specifically designed to shill the Neuv BiS team but here we are lmfao
My C0R1 Chasca saved me big time. Took down all the bosses in under a minute. Nueve burgeon cleared the first half painfully slow (mostly because he isnt fully built yet and didnt get full Xilonen dmg buff because of Nahida)
First half used noelle, furina, yelan, charlotte. Second half: arlecchino, fischl, xilonen, bennett. I cant imagine doing this 4* star only. The wolf boss was a bit of a nightmare but still a comfortable 36 star.
For us old players. Playing abyss in 4 star team is a necessity. First half noelle gorou xingqui candace. Second half same team, xiangling, bennet, chevreus, fischl. Although a lot of repeat, still manage around 5 seconds left on first chamber and 55 sec left for 2nd chamber.
I’m curious, why charlotte in the first team? Isn’t Noelle enough to out heal furina’s pets? I think gorou would make it easier with geo resonance, def buff and geo particles even at c0
Image me trying to submit run eula second side when burst happens when a transformation gives the new boss invincibility and I admit to say I use eula here so it hurts twice aaaaaaaaaa
Yup, this Abyss sucked. Had to restart chamber 1 twice because I was slightly short, and only ended with like 15 seconds to spare on the clear. The other 2 were nothing in comparison (Chasca and Ororon on 2nd side for Papilla). 2nd Side should have had only bosses I think, then it would have been balanced.
Dude i hated this Abyss, i definitely could have done a better pick than Zhongli for First half when it came to the stupid dog. Especially for my hyperbloom trigger since i didn't build Fischl on EM, could have done Kuki instead. {Zhongli, Fischl, Nahida/Kusanali and Nevu} C1,C6, C0, C0 Black Tass, Alley Hunter, Sig and Prototype Amber I do have to fix my rotations for what i used Second half on though, that run was the only time i did it but barely managed to scrape seconds before hitting 7min mark. {Chasca, Xilonen, Benny and Furina} C1(so i was able to get away with not running triple reaction for vape), C0, C5, C0 Sig, Sig, Aquila Fav and Festering Desire
@@MuhaamadAreeb not really, it's really the funneling a lot of particles with Bennett and using his skill a lot while Xiangling and Fischl's off field damage is doing it. It's a great idea actually
@@ajreyes1262 it’s far far too much ER, Zajef is obviously playing the team correctly thus funnelling However xiangling has 235% ER in triple pyro and fischl with 1 fav Just check how early xianglings burst is charged before its CD is finished. Zajef also said ceebs building properly OP isn’t saying Zajef doesn’t know how to build
@@EdenVix yeah, they know a bit too well which is both a blessing and a curse. They made this abyss to just barely clearable with just 4 star units and they also knew how to frustrate players to pull for 5 star alternatives.
F2P 36 stars clear Neuvilette , Furina, Kazuha, Xilonen Fischl, kuki, nahida, xinqui hyperbloom The hyperbloom team is insane never realised it + the frog had electro res Still it performed good This was a fun abyss But yeah the character selection is too restrictive
It's sad that, this is " ... ,2" patch of -natlan- abbys, before ...,3 -natlan- patch, and people hate it cs its hard af with non -natlan- char. As for 4 stars only team, its do able tbh (with some 5stars standart weap) You can go hyperbloom chamber 2, or orororon teser chamber 2, or overload just fine. As for chamber 1, if no kachina. I would say geo mc with with tesser beidou/ fischl, candace/xingqiu. Depends on the chamber 2. Its tesser abyys rotation anyway. Why mc? Crit buff, short rotation, petra/milelith, intruption res. Noelle is fine but tricky with er.
Yeah, its not enough. I try it on my phone just now. With candace c6, beidou c6, geo mc, xingqiu c6, my best clear time 7.38 (2.27s) mc using freedom -cheating. Without freedom around 7.20 - 7.15. The problem lies on second team if use xingqiu on chamber 1. Even with my c6 chev, bennet c6, xiangling c6, fischl c6. The primo vishap early dmg redc wasting a lot of time. The rest of the floor is fine.
full star floor 12 with 4* star is just ass i take me forever to find a team to do so succrose beidou xingqiu kqchina fishl xiangling bennet chev i have been able to do it 2 time but it's so unplesent
Kinich-Bennett-Collei-Thoma is such a great team against the second side, plus Kinich and Burning are both very good against Papilla given how many attacks they can do.
How come just when I start to 36* every one says that the abysses are really bad? Like I rarely managed before 5.0 and now I have a whole streak going,
character requirements are so annoying this abyss it felt like playing Imaginarium Theatre teams
That's when I saw value in flexible team instead of pushing the same meta teams
I always forget that the stars for each chamber don't reset when you restart the whole floor, so you can just go back with a new team and focus on the other chambers
I'd say the only requirement are 2+ decently well built 5* per team. Don't see how anyone could struggle outside of something like "4 star only challenge".
I ran my usual Yoi/Chiori/Yelan/Zhongli on one side and Noelle/Fischl/Xilonen/Furina on the other and had no problems ... and then I even realized I just did the flying wolf boss with Noelle/Xilonen and used Yoi for the Natlan boss with the shield that breaks easy with nightsoul attacks so it would've been even easier if I had switched teams.
@@derudao that's what i did this abyss but i hate doing it
@@planetary-rendez-vousAh yes, encouraging off meta teams, like... Neuvillette furina kazuha xilonen, or arlecchino overload. Nice that such overlooked teams get a chance to shine
Ningguang in 2024 Abyss clears I never thought I'd see the day
what? havent seen that "event" before?
every single time that wolf is in abyss, zhongliless and now xilonenless players use Ning for that, nothing new.
@@jonnevitu4979 I remember using just lvl 20 Ning + the 3 hyperbloom dudes to kill the wolflord and still have the damage to pass the other 2 chambers, but it was in chamber 1 in a long time ago so I dont know if it's still possible to pass the dps check now
@@jonnevitu4979 and how many times has the golden wolf lord been in the abyss in 2024? because I specifically mentioned 2024 abyss.
I’m a triple crowned Ningguang main who uses her as often as humanly possible forgive me for being excited someone else used one of the least used characters in Abyss history.
I tried it with Kachina hyperbloom then reality set in when I realized her skill was 20 second cooldown... never again
Ningguang with Wandering Evenstar and 4pc Instructor saved the day!
@@ragingflare123 c0 kachina?
my sanity...or 100 primos....my sanity...or 100...
yeah, nah I'm good
I can't even do 11 yet cause i hate how monolith health is shared. So BS. I just stick to floor 10 for my sanity. And normal imaginarium theature.
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 use anemo mc and sucrose, ez clap
or even lynette, her burst has taunt too
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 eventually you will be able to clear it. I never played for clearing abyss untill last year on lineys and navias release. With lineys i got to clear floor 11 and just now a few months back i got to 36* for the first time. And i started back in 2.5 so it took me a little over 2 years before i actually did it. You only miss out on 2 pulls every month anyways if u stop af floor 10
This monolith so easy
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 Just use sucrose on either half and you'll be fine. dont even need to build her if your dps is otherwise good enough honestly
Putting both the "chasca check" enemies on two sides of the same floor is genuinely degenerate of hoyo to do.
There are a lot of teams for both chambers. I haven’t even used Natlan characters. Futuna first half and Fischl second half
Why? They want to sell a character
@ but there’s no Chasca atm
He's talking in fast forward sounds like he's singing😂
tbh at the start he was indeed singing toxicity by system of a down
Clickbait video 5* traveller spotted
is this your first time watching here?
How is it clickbait if you can see it in the thumbnail😂
6* star character actually
yea, dmc is clearly a 7*
the replies cant take a joke 💀
A valid strategy is genuinely using two teams to clear chambers one and two and then resetting with teams specifically for chamber three. Even if they suck at one and two you already three starred them so who cares
Did teams specifically for ch 2 and 3, and swapped for 1st
I restarted with a different team for chamber 3 and died like 7 times to the Papilla. Somehow it was harder to survive that fight while taking my time than it was when trying for full stars 😅
Not 2024 ending n 2025 starting on a Ningguang meta 💀
everything could be meta, except physical - hoyo, maybe
1:30 the quick mumbling for toxicity by system of a down got me
I KNEW IT SOUNDED FAMILIAR
Hey atleast there's no wenut
Ha ha ... ha ha ... Yet
hot take but I'd probably prefer wenut over geo wolflord ngl
don't give them ideas
@@hedgehugsreal
@@hedgehugsthey’re both so terrible 😭 on one hand the wenut is more flexible in team building and the wolflord highly incentivizes you to bring geo, but on the other hand the wenut wastes SO much time underground and I don’t think it stays knocked down as long as the wolflord. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I think I’d rather fight the wolflord.
Okay, so it's not just me who hated abyss yesterday. Had to stagger multiple teams to full clear
The fact that he's using four 1.0 characters really says something about how little choice we have with newer 4 star characters or maybe Bennet Xiangling and Xingqiu are just too good. its kinda funny that he had to use Ningguang for Geo on the Wolf like Geo 4 star options really suck.
The Papilla is one of the most annoying things to build a team for so I just used hyperbloom for it, everything else I could breeze though with investment and good characters like Yelan furina. like Hutao Yelan Furina Xilonen made it easy to 0 cycle the wolf so he didnt go invulnerable. keep in mind I have all their signatures but furina so I am not relatable to a new player but man the restrictions for teams this abyss are crazy for newer players.
I mean he used Chevreuse too.
We do have good modern 4 stars and a bunch of really solid ones they're all used for different things
Yaoyao
Gaming
Sumeru Miku
Chevreuse
Kuki
Sethos
Ororon
Kirara
Charolette
There's nothing wrong with making 4*s fit certain niches
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlame Kuki, Chevreuse and Yao Yao are the only really SOLID units there. Gaming and Sethos are DPS units that suck at their roles. Ororon's niche is incredibly low damage. Kirara is a non-Baizhu unit. Sumeru Miku needs 5* Anemo units to be good.
The existence of Bennet Xiangling Xingqiu really sets up the game for a very f2p friendly experience.
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlame
I mostly agree with you, but Shinobu is a 2.x unit, I wouldn't exactly call her modern
Somehow 12-1 was the closest call for 7 minutes than the rest ,for me
as always lol
It's got 5 waves, includes a boss with resistance and animation time, beasts with resistance, eroding lava with Pyro status to ruin reactions and spread out eremites. So yeah it's hardest one to get through
Melt Lava is the most time consuming for me. Always randomly slip behind me.
I think thats a really good thing, earlier hardest part used to be in 12-3 or even 12-2
Having in 12-1 really gives alot of flexibility to be able to try many teams against hardest stuff.
I have a 2 year old account with cracked characters and I barely cleared, this is the worst abyss I've done
it wasn't the worst for me but definitely in my top 3 and one of the least fun in a long time
I can't agree more.
F2P, I just arrived at AR 59
It was the easiest abyss in recent times, especially the second side
Mualani & Clorinde go boom
My sixth abyss in a row making 36 stars
the fifth in a row that I don't even need to use my Furina
Abyss is a matter of planning
You enter Homdgcat and see the future abyss and IT, then you manage your resources
EZ Game EZ Life
I starting to see the trend. Last abyss or IT they put enemies with weakness to geo, promoting zhongli for geo and shield. Then what you know, next banner is zhongli. Same thing here, i wish i have mavuika and clorinde so i can easily finish 12-2
I think it’s just because the emphasis on having specific characters. Most people don’t have strong characters built that also do things like long range damage and or good against specific boss resistance or support characters that do well against the specific boss or enemy. I know the first chamber is always a breeze but it’s a pain trying to essentially “meet boss conditions” for my other teams
Genshin devs clueless af, how is this abomination of an abyss worth only 100 primos? Like what
They should give us a free Mavuika for clearing this abyss.
I had to work for this 36* this time around. The damage wasnt the issue, the enemy mechanics was.
True the damage is fine but the new mechanics is awful, like 12-2 first boss flight immediately and 12 - 3 both side have flying enemy LMAO.
the only way to make it worse would be to put the wenut somewhere
i went for 6 stars on floor 12, im kinda too horizontal invested to actually have the dmg to burst these massive bosses
Combine all the worms, then put them all in 12-1-1 as multiwaves.
Horizontal investment is a pretty good decision imo. Keeps game fun with many characters to play with. Depending on how close you are to clearing, it can be fun to make use of the 30 day period to plan out some optimal vertical investments to push the performance further. Eventually the gap will bridge when similar bosses return next time.
dun regret for a second ur horizontal! ur playing it like a champ :D
hot takes
Wenut easier than 3x2 wave tanky medium enemies
wenut is just scripted enemies
understand the script = guaranted under 1 min clear
two avatars of lava followed by hydro and cryo abyss heralds first half and the wenut on the 2nd half (don't do this hoyo)
"This is going to be an awful experience isnt it 😂"
Glad it's not just me.
Everyone I think have same issue
It was a real dick move to put Papilla into abyss so early when most people don't have one of the Natlan character that are good at breaking it's sheild. I failed for about an hour before i finally managed to beat it with 3 seconds left 😭
I didn't even use Natlan chars for it lol, aggrevate can break the shield just fine 🤔
there's still a plenty of time before the next reset, Mauvika/Citlali/PMC havers will be able to participate in this abyss.. that is if they pre-farmed
fischl
Any high hit per second character will either shred the shield faster than or just as fast as the Natlan characters
I ran double hydro hyperbloom in the 2nd half and I deleted the shield in ~10s just by doing my rotation
Any high hit count unit or team can clear that chamber.
Problem solving skills, man....
hyper bloom and hydro dragon are only meta
True no way would have 36 stared it otherwise
instruction unclear, i am playing em hydro dragon in hyperbloom now
@@Limen2402I can't tell if this is a joke but in case it isn't full em on the hydro unit does nothing on hyperbloom. The electro unit is the only one who needs the em bc they're the ones who trigger the reaction
Or just use Natlan chars
For real. I would not have been able to do this without Nahida hyperbloom.
This abyss ACTUALLY gave me a challenge for once. Lol
As a mobile player with 300 ping, I took the easy route: Neuvillette, Furina, Xilonen, Zhongli first half and Nahida, Yelan, Xingqiu, Kuki second half. Cleared chambers 2 & 3 with a minute to spare, chamber 1 with 20 seconds to spare.
My builds and artifact quality are just decent, BUT I do have C1R1 Neuvillette and one of the best C0R0 Furinas in the world (0.2% Akasha).
The hardest abyss remains to be 3.7 with the lectors and element requirements. No cause to cry in Lector- and Herald-less abysses.
We used the same exact teams, except I had Kazuha instead of Zhongli. Pretty foolish, considering it took me two whole minutes to take down the Wolflord with just Xilonen as my choice for Geo. Thankfully, Nahida hyperbloom demolished the Aeonblight Drake. Just hyperbloom things!
Guys will be malding 100% next abyss, the hp scaling on the next abyss is bonkers
oh god...
Next abyss data leaked alr?
@@alanparmar2797 It has been out for like 3 weeks already, lol.
Yeah pipa boss in 12 - 2 second will become more dominant to Next spiral abyss
Ningguang Hyperbloom is what I played as a 4* clear for the Abyss with Local Legend Geo Shield Plunge Mek and Legatus Golem on the second side
I tried doing that thing and said fk it cause it was a sponge. Destroying the bombs did no dmg to him. Wait is local legend not the same as night trial?
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 Legatus golems bombs only deals damage to its shield.
@chmaryl i'm talking about a night trial in feather place (i think)
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 You mean the one that places bombs? The bombs will only damage it if they're destroyed by a plunging attack.
Zajef flames Ningguang for 1 normal attack at boss Sadge
Most racist abyss in some time
This Abyss is fine, I just really hate how restrictive the requirements are. It feels like I am playing Whack-A-Mole avoiding all the annoying mechanics of these bosses. In particular I really dislike Tenebrous. It pushes you to either use really specific teams that have many instances of damage, or just slot in a Natlani character. Ultimately it's pretty easy, I am just a little annoyed the best teams seemed to be Powerwash/Furina on the first half, and then Xilonen/Arlecchino second half. Not really a damage problem, just any other combination of units feels really clunky in this Abyss I have come to find.
Hyperbloom is really good second half too, specially if you slot in fischl. Ive seen people do it with overload too but i haven't tested it myself
@@EdenVix Yeah I just did a run with Clorinde and Fischl on an aggravate comp. Completely shreds the shield, mostly thanks to Fischl. She continues to be the goat years later. Side note, Clorinde is giga underrated
@@spice2688Praise be to our Prinzessin.
Hyper Bloom is best in second Phase but in first maybe you need Furina to break Shield of flying dragon and use geo in 12 - 3 first half.
i found chamber 2 side 2 to be the worst 😭😭 somehow i got through it with Alhaitham quickblook but since I don’t have natlan characters except kachina, it was a colossal nightmare. first abyss i might actually skip out on the 4* only run
Teams:
Navia/Zhongli/Furina/Bennett
Alhaitham/Yelan/Nahida/Kuki
both carries C1 but i don’t think that’s too relevant except for navia
Should have dropped haitham for Xingqiu and you'd have cleared that chamber more easily.
@@el7284You are joking right?
@@shi-chan5779i mean, you do need really fast elemental application for that boss and xingqiu applies A Lot of hydro, I'd say he's definitely the better option for that chamber
@EdenVix Maybd but I would guess his alhaitham is more invested than his xinqui.
Now double hdyro is nice for less Energy issues but then again double dendro hyperbloom is just better.
I would bet althaitham is better even in this niche situation
@@el7284 i tried that and it just didn’t go as easily! probably skill issue on my part. my xingqiu decently built (160/60 with 180 ERR on fav)
my alhaitham is quite good so I just ended up doing way more damage (240/80, 321 EM)
edit: i should clarify that I never had a problem breaking his phase, it was more so that my navia isn’t the best in terms of artifacts, so even tho my HB is good, i’d still end up a little short on time; alhaitham just did more damage to clear out the boss
This would have gone much better if Zajef actually used Ningguang for her front loaded damage every 12 seconds. This was cringe.
what damage, its possible she wasnt even built properly
This abyss was torture with the Nathan flower and wolf lord. I had to go through three times with a different team for each chamber and still had two end on the 7 00 mark with not a second to spare
Love this video 😊
Abyss dropping waves of dps sponges now 😂
Nightsoul is the worst mechanic brought into this game
You should change your settings to only capture sound from the game, and not all windows sounds. Or maybe turn off the windows bloops because they're extremely annoying
i can't believe bro has windows bloops for fucking song changes
this isn't Zajef's channel. its a fan channel, ud have to write it in his twitch or his youtube comments 😔
👹 merry Christmas, players 👹
Personally had no issues for vertically invested hutao and alhaitham. But id like to point out rathalos shield breaking take 30s for furina/yelan/xingqiu. Thats like operating minus one rotation. You are damaged check by the 2nd half of chamber 2 to kill him in about 45s after the shield gets down or else you get another shield phase plopped down.
Then we have the chamber 1 lava goons that may just spread away. Also primo heo vishap stalling.
In chamber 3 u also get to experience wolflord stalling.
This didnt feel like a character check, it was quite literally artificial stalling.
this is the first time i had to select a team specifically for each floor like dawg wth 😭
The Abyss is tough but damn that Kachina neglect
how are your hyperblooms doing 35k?, mine only do 32k, does dendro traveller offer some buff for hyperbloom?
His Kuki has some cracked artifacts. I remember he has 100+ EM on his feather alone
Prob also 4 pc Instructor on Ning so she gives the team 120 more EM.
This game makes me lose my sanity like wtf is this abyss
Btw every abyss that everyone says is garbage is the most fun i have in abyss ever. I do live the malding aspect
I have cleared every abyss since 4.3 with cybo and keqing but this on i couldnt. So i cleared with f2p ayaka and keqing
I don't think this Abyss is harder per-se, it just demands very specifically Hydro+Geo in the first team and the first side has stalling mechanics. The 2nd side is decent otherwise.
you live the malding and you use cybo
ok
Its fun to mald when you know you can nearly clear if u retry a bit better
Its not fun to mald when its near impossible (not the case this abyss)
@Snek-t2n my thoughts exactly
Same. I like the puzzle solving aspect of coming up with a team to beat the Abyss. I dislike it when I can just brute force it with the most powerful meta team each time. Top team requires some hydro and geo. Bottom team mostly requires high rate of fire and a character that can deal with Aeon Blight Drake. If you do not have these then you can just brute force if you are overwhelmingly powerful like killing the Wolflord before he can get his heads out or just killing the Tenebrous Papilla even with 80% resist.
Where to post clears for meta roundup?
i did this abyss for 6 hours straight, i havent cleared 12-3 yet.
Me fighting Elden Ring bosses.
@mormegil84 i finally cleared after another 2 hours, u got this! (in elden ring)
every single floor in 12 felt like a restriction on a character to the point where I ran like
C6 Chiori Zhongli Furina Charlotte
Arlecchino Xilonen Yelan Bennett
and then had to go back for 12-2-2 because of that stupid 2nd floor boss (hate it)
Edit: I didn't realize Overload was good here... I thought I was forced to bring a Natlan character SMH (I'm so stupid)
This is why we at Wuwa are given bypass access to certain stages so we don't have to worry too much about restrictions bullshit
C6 Chiori
Lol
ur a whale i do not wanna hear it tbh
@@traincore1955 yeah she's so goated, very glad I got her as a F2P
you dont even need overload, burning eats that shield alive.
How to win in current abyss guide:
BREAK TOPPLE LAUNCH SMASH
A cultured person, I see.
Idk man spamming double spinning edge seems easier and faster it really showed me a thing or three
Pulverizing dunk >>
I personally prefer to put corvin on zeke then I can spam invincibility frames on the constipated beasts
Instructions unclear, spent all my primos on KOS-MOS
What about Geo Traveler against wolflord?
pretty sure u need 3 apps of Geo to break a wolf's head, so you'd need 1 burst and 1 skill(?), or 3 skills per wolf head which is too long a time in cooldowns :( (the last attack in her normal attack string is Geo infused also rite? but itd still be too long)
I hated trying this abyss yesterday, but having said that I watched the video much more attentively this time
I'm crying in 12-2
you would've thought that Hoyo doesn't need to make an abyss side that feels like it's specifically designed to shill the Neuv BiS team but here we are lmfao
gave up going for 3* on third chamber. settled for the 8* total
So judging from the abyss blessing could one assume Citlali will be on the first half of 5.3?
both are on first half and will run the entire patch
@@baluttery why would they run 2 new caracters together
Ngl got to papilla and said nah im good i dont need this
First half: Neuv, Zhong, Childe, Kazu
Second half: Kinich, Ororon, Benny, Thoma
All 5 stars C0, Neuv sig, Kinich Natlan craftable
C1 Ororon, C5 Benny and Thoma
At first they had big hilichurls before a boss, and now two fricking stupid geovishaps that get knocked away even by throwing dust at them
My C0R1 Chasca saved me big time. Took down all the bosses in under a minute. Nueve burgeon cleared the first half painfully slow (mostly because he isnt fully built yet and didnt get full Xilonen dmg buff because of Nahida)
First half used noelle, furina, yelan, charlotte.
Second half: arlecchino, fischl, xilonen, bennett.
I cant imagine doing this 4* star only. The wolf boss was a bit of a nightmare but still a comfortable 36 star.
For us old players. Playing abyss in 4 star team is a necessity. First half noelle gorou xingqui candace. Second half same team, xiangling, bennet, chevreus, fischl. Although a lot of repeat, still manage around 5 seconds left on first chamber and 55 sec left for 2nd chamber.
I’m curious, why charlotte in the first team? Isn’t Noelle enough to out heal furina’s pets? I think gorou would make it easier with geo resonance, def buff and geo particles even at c0
what artifact set/ weapon for noelle? and what is charlotte for
Horrendous abyss. I'm looking forward to Zajef's meta roundup video on this one.
Clearing this abyss with no 5 star weapons and f2p units was really fun
Neuvilette hypercarry first half...
Raiden hypercarry second half...
Piece of cake...XD
even with primo giovishap being electro?
@you_have_been_blocked Oh it was electro resistant? I didn't even notice...XD
Yeah it's still easy because my Raiden is C3R1...
@@Devil-sama... LMAO *cries in c0 raiden*
@@you_have_been_blocked maybe try Rational or Raiden overload with Chevreuse..??
Nah, I'd Noelle
4 stars & Aether (best 5 star from his home)
I was about to give up on a four star challenge but then it hit me. Beidou excels in two target situations…. That is all.
Based Soad enjoyer
If it wasn't for Ororon, I part 2 boss 2 would be ridiculously impossible for me for 4* only clears lol
I dont have the mental capacity to do only 4 star i normally try but this one i care for my mental sake
This abyss is fun.
i pretty easily cleared with c2 arle ben kaz tartag and hu tao xilonen c2 furina yelan. we love vertically investing
Okay so I need to try Chevreuse on the second chamber
Image me trying to submit run eula second side when burst happens when a transformation gives the new boss invincibility and I admit to say I use eula here so it hurts twice aaaaaaaaaa
Finaly my C2 C3 chsracters are worth it
I feel the same way yet I’m still over here trying four star clears lmfao
Is Zajef playing Genshin on an arcade stick? That button mashing sound 😗
used wrio+shenhe+xilonen+yelan and kinich+dehya+baizhu+bennett and it still felt terrible even with my constellations
yep, first time in years that i had to redo 12.1... this abyss is a mess
Yup, this Abyss sucked. Had to restart chamber 1 twice because I was slightly short, and only ended with like 15 seconds to spare on the clear. The other 2 were nothing in comparison (Chasca and Ororon on 2nd side for Papilla). 2nd Side should have had only bosses I think, then it would have been balanced.
It's insane how much Zajef sounds like Zyox when the footage is sped up at around 1:32.
Papilloma's shield + drake gatekeeps 99% of my teams super hard, no fun allowed. Getting C6 Fischl in January will make it 90%.
Dude i hated this Abyss, i definitely could have done a better pick than Zhongli for First half when it came to the stupid dog. Especially for my hyperbloom trigger since i didn't build Fischl on EM, could have done Kuki instead.
{Zhongli, Fischl, Nahida/Kusanali and Nevu}
C1,C6, C0, C0
Black Tass, Alley Hunter, Sig and Prototype Amber
I do have to fix my rotations for what i used Second half on though, that run was the only time i did it but barely managed to scrape seconds before hitting 7min mark.
{Chasca, Xilonen, Benny and Furina} C1(so i was able to get away with not running triple reaction for vape), C0, C5, C0
Sig, Sig, Aquila Fav and Festering Desire
I first tried this abyss with my neuv and chasca team. Wow I am so good at this kid's game 🤓
All I'll say is:
Not Hoyo's fault y'all haven't built y'all's Ningguang, she's been pretty great since 4.3 with Night Time being a great set for her.
Your xiangling had too much ER when it comes to minmaxint this team
his Xiangling don't have a lot of ER, he funneled a lot of particles with Bennett
@ajreyes1262 with fav Chevy, something like 120 er with 2 piece 2 piece is optimal
@@MuhaamadAreeb not really, it's really the funneling a lot of particles with Bennett and using his skill a lot while Xiangling and Fischl's off field damage is doing it. It's a great idea actually
@@MuhaamadAreeb womp womp, better have enough to be safe, didnt he cleared it anyways?
@@ajreyes1262
it’s far far too much ER,
Zajef is obviously playing the team correctly thus funnelling
However xiangling has 235% ER in triple pyro and fischl with 1 fav
Just check how early xianglings burst is charged before its CD is finished.
Zajef also said ceebs building properly OP isn’t saying Zajef doesn’t know how to build
No 36 star?
??????
u dumb or what?
mualani destroyed this abyss, felt good
chamber 2 is natlan propaganda
fr, i tried it earlier today and just left off. so bad
the fact that i have to build kuki if i wanna play hyperbloom against the geo wolf cuz raiden E targets the head and the dmc burst targets the tail...
You could play Dori...
@corallein shes also not built (and is worse...)
This is what happens when you hire gameplay designers and programmers and give them 15 minutes to work with and zero to patch.
Nah they know exactly what they're doing, it's 100% on purpose
@@EdenVix yeah, they know a bit too well which is both a blessing and a curse. They made this abyss to just barely clearable with just 4 star units and they also knew how to frustrate players to pull for 5 star alternatives.
you just have to accept you will not be able to do a continous run
F2P 36 stars clear
Neuvilette , Furina, Kazuha, Xilonen
Fischl, kuki, nahida, xinqui hyperbloom
The hyperbloom team is insane never realised it + the frog had electro res
Still it performed good
This was a fun abyss
But yeah the character selection is too restrictive
Mais uma vez, ele com preguiça de buildar a ninguang. Esse cara parece que faz de proposito
It's sad that, this is " ... ,2" patch of -natlan- abbys, before ...,3 -natlan- patch, and people hate it cs its hard af with non -natlan- char.
As for 4 stars only team, its do able tbh (with some 5stars standart weap)
You can go hyperbloom chamber 2, or orororon teser chamber 2, or overload just fine.
As for chamber 1, if no kachina. I would say geo mc with with tesser beidou/ fischl, candace/xingqiu. Depends on the chamber 2.
Its tesser abyys rotation anyway. Why mc? Crit buff, short rotation, petra/milelith, intruption res. Noelle is fine but tricky with er.
theres no way taser has enough dmg for chamber 1 no?
Yeah, its not enough. I try it on my phone just now. With candace c6, beidou c6, geo mc, xingqiu c6, my best clear time 7.38 (2.27s) mc using freedom -cheating. Without freedom around 7.20 - 7.15.
The problem lies on second team if use xingqiu on chamber 1. Even with my c6 chev, bennet c6, xiangling c6, fischl c6. The primo vishap early dmg redc wasting a lot of time.
The rest of the floor is fine.
I cant use hyperbloom second half with candace or xingqiu on first half. If i swap them down, i can barely clear it on 7min. With orororon fischl.
Sorry that my comment didnt work the way i think it is -.-
I was like WHAT IS THIS ABYSS WHO'S EVEN IN THE BANNE-....oh
BUT STILL THIS IS SO CRINGE WHO'S EVEN THEY'RE RELEASING NEXT PATCH-.... oh
Mic Sound balance please. Vocal modification when voice goes high is so peircing. And good team template. But my ears hurt between volume adjustments
Its not even 36 star damn it 😅😅
Those 100 primogems are not worth it
full star floor 12 with 4* star is just ass i take me forever to find a team to do so
succrose beidou xingqiu kqchina
fishl xiangling bennet chev
i have been able to do it 2 time but it's so unplesent
Ninguang
that's cheating, traveller isnt a 4 star
Kinich-Bennett-Collei-Thoma is such a great team against the second side, plus Kinich and Burning are both very good against Papilla given how many attacks they can do.
alhaitham quickboom also has so many hits that papis shield barely last 2s
I just gambled with Ajaw and sometimes he actually sniped the Drake down himself, lmao
@@CreationsFlare it doesnt get increased resists iirc so even if you didnt sniped it, your kinich would be able to hit them anyways.
Yeah this abyss is terrible, whoever set the lineup of this one should be fired. I'm just not doing it
How come just when I start to 36* every one says that the abysses are really bad? Like I rarely managed before 5.0 and now I have a whole streak going,