Why We May Be Watching the Demise of Michigan Football
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Martindale's ability to know what play the opposing offense is running is far, far worse than previous DCs.
Lol trueeeee
Right, the fans are being a little hard on him. 😂😂😂
Who is his Connor Stallions? Fire him!
Aren't you tired of that yet? It has nothing to do with it the offense is bad the defense is out there too much the secondary is not playing good. More of this is how the secondary play so far of the ball they are inviting easy catches on slants. You aren't a real football fan if that is all you hang your hat on.
Yep that’s why the 2 previous Defensive coordinator’s are in the NFL tearing it up 1 as a head coach are you buckeye fans really this dumb
Football is extremely difficult when you don’t know the other teams plays ahead of time. No sensible person thought this was a good team. Only the national media has been running that narrative. Michigan usually has a decent defense, but it’ll never be great unless they can obtain another Connor.
I'm from Ohio. Thanks to Woody's disgraceful act at the end of the 1978 Gator Bowl - I vowed never to root for OSU again. Having said that. I lived in Columbus for 20-years and moved 3 years ago (Thank Goodness). The only things that I miss about cow-town, USA are Graeter's Ice Cream, Tommy's Pizza, and the DK Diner in Grandview.
The truth is that the cow-town (Is the herd still visible on Sawmill between Bethel and 161?) is starving for National Attention due to lack of Professional Sports Franchises. Please don't even start with the Jackets.
The fans are poor winners and losers. Come into the office and act like babies after an OSU loss. Grown men, some in their sixties wearing women's make up and wigs to the game. What's Buck-I-Man up to these days? The clown went to Earl Bruce's wake dressed up in his little costume. Signed the family memory board which was exclusively for players and coaches - Urban had to pitch his a$$ out.
Hope OSU is undefeated come 11/30. Michigan isn't going anywhere this year, so ALL PRESSURE ON DAY and his $20mm NIL roster at HOME. Your offensive line and defensive line are still suspect. The OL as been getting away with holding all year - today against Iowa, you guys took it to another level.
Good luck in Oregon. Penn State has a very physical team, toughest that I've seen in years. Franklin gave the game away last year and the year before 4 INTs.
Herbstreit, Galloway, Urban, Klatt, Thamel, Feldman, Perry, DiNardo, and how many others just love to push the "National Title or bust" - "We play for titles around here" Bullsh*t.
OSU has won two since 1968. TWO. Other than beating Clemson during the wear a mask season before getting humiliated by Bama - OSU has done crap since 2014. Nothing.
Now go do something more valuable with your life instead of trolling Michigan content. WAIT! Oh that's right - there ain't nothing else to do in cow-town. Well's there's four things actually...
1.) Work
2.) Get drunk and stuffing one's face with Wendy's burgers all week.
3.) Mowing the lawn to compete with the neighbors
4.) Depending on season - golf or Buckeye football - or both.
Life is far too precious to live have the wins and losses of 18-21 year old kids dictate your emotional well-being.
@@ReadingsbyDom "Thanks to Woody's disgraceful act at the end of the 1978 Gator Bowl - I vowed never to root for OSU again."
So let me get this straight. You won't root for a team because the organization immediately did the right thing and removed the coach when he messed up? How do you feel about teams like Penn State and Michigan which allowed systemic problems?
@@ReadingsbyDomvery curious to know who your team is. Because winning two titles in 50 years is “nothing” to you. Only a few teams have won more titles in that time span . Not even Georgia has won more than that. Osu has also played in 5 titles in the last 25 years. Won 2 of them. Maybe you don’t grasp how difficult it is actually is to even make it to a championship game. Name more than 3 teams that have been more dominant in college football the last 20-30 years. I’ll give ya Bama. That’s about it.
I’m not sure why you talk so much crap about the city of Columbus. Sounds like you lived there a while. Why did you stay so long if it was that bad? Is it because your financial status didn’t allow it? Maybe Ann Arbor or Detroit would be a safer and more profitable place for you to live 🤣
Harbaugh took years to build a program while Sherone Moore walks in and takes credit for 3 big wins. He did nothing but sit in as interim coach. Sherone Moore is utter trash. At the Washington game he claimed Jack Tuttle has been available for the last 2 weeks. So what you waiting for? What a bad bad coach. What a bad bad coaching staff. At least Jack Tuttle put up points. Orji runs and operates like a wild stray cat. No direction, no poise no calm collective decision making mindset a QB needs to have to be successful. Just make him a WR or a running back. I can't believe that Joe Milton is 3 times the QB than Orji is and Milton sucks bad. The defensive secondary is a Don Brown coverage scheme that Will Johnson won't be able to succeed in. Sherone Moore making $5 million for this coaching nightmare is public robbery and a college football fraud.
I don't think Moore is taking credit, he praises Harbaugh. He always has. Plus 18 players went to the NFL.
@@WeFreestyleForever that was the whole basis on the reason he was given the job. So yes he is taking credit.
Jim left the program like this on purpose. When are y'all going to realize that? That pay cut pissed him off.
You guys are just realizing this? That Moore is severely under-qualified to be a HC in the B1G? Funny, when Spartans said it, all I heard was how great he is.
You can’t deny Jim turned things around when he found Stallions. Sure makes things easier when you know what your opponent is going to do.
In time I think UM fans will resent what Jim did to their program and I would too if I were them.
Michigan fans need to enjoy and appreciate being ranked 24th. hey probably won't be ranked that high again for years.
lol
Think that's an overreaction. I am an Indiana fan myself. But Michigan is still pulling in a good recruiting class. This team really needs a good qb. The defense is above average which is a step down from the elite defense they had in 2023.
Let the players grow up and mature in a football sense, recruit or grab a good qb from the portal. And they will be fine.
Fantastic video. One of the best college football summaries I've listened to. Well done.
Much appreciated!
The NCAA train is still coming down the tracks...with Thor's hammer...bye bye UM football
No C. Stalions either.
Losing Connor stallions was a big blow..
Without him, it’s right back to the same mid, underachieving wolverines..
Another person who doesn’t know the game. More of you on this particular site than others. Ignorance is bliss.
@@bacus626245so harbaugh couldn’t win, then began cheating and the “miraculous turn around happens”. Yes as you said ignorance is bliss as well as being delusional. Have you heard scum has a notice of allegations regarding on their field cheating? Already on probation for recruiting during the dead period.
We won a Natty without him. Are you dumb?
True! The evidence speaks for itself. Michigan’s program has been mediocre at best for the past two decades. Even in 2015 when Harbaugh took over they still couldn’t win the big games, and could never beat Ohio State. Then enter Connor Stalions and the sign-stealing scandal. Magically, Michigan finally turns it around. Now Stalions is gone and we see where the program is, and where it’s headed. Not looking good for the Wolverines.
Michigan won a Natty after he left. 😘
Yep it's a whole different deal when you don't know what play is coming isn't it?
The Big Ten landscape has changed. Road games at UW, Oregon, and USC are not going to be easy places to win.
It’s only the demise of Michigan football if Moore can’t do better than Campbell at OC and Wink at DC. Wink in particular is horrible, suddenly we can’t cover or tackle.
Weird how that happens when you dont know the plays in advance and your head coach bolts on you and all thats left is the years of 3 star recruiting classes
@@JoeKoors Harbaugh took a better job, we all would. We already only recruit 3 and 4 stars, that’s nothing new. Oh, and 9-0 after Stalions left last year.
He would have made more money staying at Michigan. Most people don’t take a “better” job for less money
@@bradleywright202 nope. Harbaugh makes $16M per year with the Chargers, meanwhile the highest paid college coach is Kirby who makes $13M.
I think the landscape is continuing to change with NIL, as more teams get good talent and its spread more evenly, you'll see less teams really differentiate themselves each year. Its really down to Texas and OSU already.
Difference between prior years and this year.
Last year:
1) they were able to cheat
2) they played a bunch of patsies in their non-conf
3) they didn't play anyone hard on the road
This year
1) they can't cheat
2) played a top 10 team in non-conf and were humiliated
3) actually had to go to the West coast (they cancelled the prior game) and play a good team and lost
Don't forget they lost their coaching staff, OL, QB, RB, and most of their defense. Context matters. How did Mich cheat against OSU, PSU, Iowa, Bama, or Washington?
How did UM cheat Sparty on the 49-0 win? Not a single sign that game lol
@@DOOMSTARKS-ib4fl MSU was notfified on a Wednesday before a Saturday game that Michigan may know all their signals. Nate Carter said there wasn't enough time to change and used the signals they knew.
If you don't think UM still cheated, throw down your crack pipe and move out of Downriver, Walverine.
@@DOOMSTARKS-ib4fl Look at offensive stats, they dropped off considerably after notifying the league that UM were CHEATERS. UM got buried in the prior CFP games. REMEMBER, UM had been cheating for at least THREE YEARS.
GTFOH they played at Penn State last year and what game to the west coast did they cancel......this has to be one of the dumbest comments ever
a lot of this must fall on harbaugh as well. yes, he left the program high and dry, but he also recruited like shit all over the board for the last several years . most of the production from last year’s team came from 5th/6th year guys, especially up front and on the outside
That was the main thing. Getting all of those guys to come back. They put everything on last season. Jim didn't even look beyond that. He was leaving no matter what. That's why the cupboard is bare.
He didn’t leave it high and dry. The UM AD didn’t back the best coach in history and he moved on.
@@Haze1552 what could the AD have done differently? there was so much player turnover that a step back would be imminent even with last year’s staff. your head coach embroiled himself in scandal after scandal, recruited poorly, and pending sanctions, thus the outlook for the next few seasons was bleak already. this year would’ve been bad regardless of who’s the head coach. you’re lucky your star players didn’t transfer this offseason, the writing has been on the wall for years now
@@jacobthomas8158 yet Moore couldn’t see it and like every other coach, go out and sign players in the portal. Moore sat back and didn’t sign a single player in the QB room.
@@Haze1552 the issues facing this team are much bigger than just qb. harbaugh would have been in the same situation sherrone is
People love to repeat a narrative that Ryan Day was handed a ready made team from Meyer, but the truth is Day's first action was to replace Schiano and most of his staff, except for Larry Johnson. Say what you want about "3rd base", or whatever corny narrative sounds cute. Day hired established veterans Jeff Hafley, Greg Mattison, and Al Washington who turned Urban's defense that was ranked 53 in 2018 to one that finished top 3 in 2019. Moore was handed a Natty winning team with a returning #1 defense that many thought was better than last year's. I dont care who Harbaugh took, a team like Michigan should not be replacing NFL level assistants with hires from (Not-LSU) Louisiana, Buffalo, and Umass if it wants to remain nationally relevant. You need top tier assistants and Moore seriously handicapped Michigan with his hires.
Absolutely correct on all points
Yeah it was the recruits that day got on day one that changes everything. Take the qb and receiving room he inherited. Make those comparison to what Harbaugh had to do and what Moore is doing now it's not the same comparison.
@@blkilliaRyan Day has still been able to maintain the program he’s been there for 6 years
@@JJJJ-he8bz Yes he still started on third base and like a Rich kid is throwing money at players to come to a school that has no problems recruiting it's amazing. I guess when you can't win a natty it makes you do desperate things.
@@blkilliatwo things can be true: OP’s comment and yours. Sad that Michigan has never realized this so our championship runs come decades apart
And I don't think you were around for Michigan football from 2008 to 2014... We couldn't field a kickoff properly. Trust me, we are light years from that era.
Outside of the NCAA when harbaugh left and took his staff and i found out he took the conditioning coach as well, I knew Michigan was Doomed in the coaching staff area as well, we may was well say there about to go thru a death penalty because the NCAA is gonna hit there pockets as well, throwing harbaugh under the bus can't cover this mess 😢
The NCAA is limited in how much it can do to Michigan. The biggest question mark is gonna be what they find to be true as far as the allegations regarding Moore… if they can’t get him I don’t see how the NCAA has a big impact on the future of the program.
@@ryand5725it's specified in his contract he can't be fired for "known or assumed facts based on ongoing investigations" so it doesn't matter unless they uncover something unrelated to either of those investigations. But he might get run out if he loses 4 games this year which is entirely possible
@@ryand5725 the NCAA is not limited!!! Idk why people hiding behind that BS! Tennessee and Miami been getting hammered for YEARS by the NCAA and Michigan is next!!! Michigan is not keeping the Natty and needs to focus on protecting the future because they could have a dead program in less and 2 years
@@mattschwartz7583 I’m not saying he could be fired for this. I’m saying I don’t see what “major” impact the NCAA could have on the program based on the punishments they’ve been handing out to other programs recently.
@@ryand5725 I was agreeing with your not sure how much ncaa can do, especially since that caveat is written in. I would hope they wipe wins and some scholarships, otherwise everyone is going to look for the next orientation of this to go from a mid at best to a national championship team.
This is going to suck for quite a while. Playing on the job training .
You think you suck now. Wait till the NCAA hands down punishment for the sign stealing/lack of institutional control.
It seems like Harbaugh stripped the great coaching staff of this team? There's no seeming about it. He took the whole coaching staff with him except for Sherrone Moore and Mike Hart.
It seems to me that Hardbaugh has a L-O-T to do with how dismal this team looks. He gutted the key coaching positions by backing them up and taking them to the NFL. Some will say that's what coaches do when they move on. They take staff with them. However, if Hardbaugh would have put Michigan ahead of his self-serving ego, we wouldn't be looking at a team looking like MAC conference. It seems there was very little effort on his part to put things in place well before he left to pursue his grandiose Superbowl dreams. Let's be honest about this. Hardbaugh always had going back to the NFL in his mind. He can't claim to be a true schembechler man: : those who stay will be champions".
I love Coach Harbaugh, but I can’t disagree with you. He stripped it down to the ground.
The UM AD has no role in this?
@@alyosha1974 yes and no. There job is not to do athlete requirements or dealing with portals. However, it is their job to oversee coach staffing. So, when Hardbuagh was thinking of leaving the AD had a decision to make. 'should I go with Moore, or start a search?'. But again, Hardbuagh, at the end of the day, has a lot of pull with the AD in making decisions b4 he left . Hardbuagh, already thinking about the NFL, ,
@@richardschulz3409harbaugh had in his contract to hire moore when he left.
Bad coaching but the main problem is the lack of a good passing quarterback which is Harbaugh’s fault
It's Kirk Campbell. He's the offensive coordinator, and also the QB coach. Even with the 5 eligible QB's they've got, they should be able to be coached, and developed better regardless of Harbaugh.
Um, excuse me, McCarthy had another year of eligibility since harbaugh left he wasn't sticking around for a DEI dumpster fire hire!! Just like Michigan basketball is just now figuring out, they finally put the fire out and hired a qualified coach!!!! Sherrone Moore is the most under qualified coach Michigan could've hired!! I say that because curt cignetti is fire and Indiana is undefeated!!!!!!!
I dreaded the thought of Moore becoming the coach. All you have to do is look at how he “developed” this offensive line over the past three years. They guys that played for him from 21-23 were generational talents. These guys, for the most part, suck. He hasn’t developed them over the years, and he didn’t identify any talent during the recruiting cycles.
The fact that Guidice ever saw the field is a joke. A pylon would be better than Link.
Every coach he hired sucks, he sucks. This will be worse than the 10 years in the wilderness we were subjected to.
There is no slicing and dicing it, Michigan is quarterback-less. And make no mistake about it, this is completely and utterly the fault of the coaches...period (yes...I'm looking at you Moore and Campbell). With NIL and the very generous transfer portal, there is NO excuse for this. Halfway through this season, and M has had 3 different QBs who have all had some significant playing time, and not one of them is capable of leading this team. NOT ONE!! You will never convince me that the coaches saw no signs of this issue during the off season. And if they did...well, I think that would speak for itself. I think most reasonable fans knew that this was going to be tough season. You can't lose the amount of players M lost after last season, and expect little to no drop off. But this is ridiculous.
The issue with Tuttle is he can’t stay healthy; hence why he hasn’t been able to play until now. The QB situation is because Jim effed Michigan. He didn’t recruit a good QB back in the 2022 class so there was no heir apparent to JJ’s departure. Then Jim took his time to depart to the NFL which deprived Moore a chance to acquire a good QB via the transfer portal. To Moore’s credit, he has done well with the next two HS classes. Lastly how Jim effed Michigan; by recommending Moore as HC. Love Moore, but this is too much too fast for him. Then Wink; this has been a bust. Sad reality is that both Moore & Wink aren’t going anywhere for 2 more seasons. So, three years of suck; then hopefully if a competent coaching staff will be hired and three more years later Michigan will bee good again. TLDR; looking forward to Team 151!
Michigan, Harbaugh, and Stallions cheated their asses off to win last year. Weird how the wheels fell off so quickly.
And the 2 previous years!
This is so lame. We beat PSU, OSU, Bama, and Washington long after the stallions thing became the big story. You can polish the natty trophy if it will help you feel better
How did PSU, OSU, Iowa, Bama, and Washington get cheated last year. Please tell me.
I'm from Ohio. Thanks to Woody's disgraceful act at the end of the 1978 Gator Bowl - I vowed never to root for OSU again. Having said that. I lived in Columbus for 20-years and moved 3 years ago (Thank Goodness). The only things that I miss about cow-town, USA are Graeter's Ice Cream, Tommy's Pizza, and the DK Diner in Grandview.
The truth is that the cow-town (Is the herd still visible on Sawmill between Bethel and 161?) is starving for National Attention due to lack of Professional Sports Franchises. Please don't even start with the Jackets.
The fans are poor winners and losers. Come into the office and act like babies after an OSU loss. Grown men, some in their sixties wearing women's make up and wigs to the game. What's Buck-I-Man up to these days? The clown went to Earl Bruce's wake dressed up in his little costume. Signed the family memory board which was exclusively for players and coaches - Urban had to pitch his a$$ out.
Hope OSU is undefeated come 11/30. Michigan isn't going anywhere this year, so ALL PRESSURE ON DAY and his $20mm NIL roster at HOME. Your offensive line and defensive line are still suspect. The OL as been getting away with holding all year - today against Iowa, you guys took it to another level.
Good luck in Oregon. Penn State has a very physical team, toughest that I've seen in years. Franklin gave the game away last year and the year before 4 INTs.
Herbstreit, Galloway, Urban, Klatt, Thamel, Feldman, Perry, DiNardo, and how many others just love to push the "National Title or bust" - "We play for titles around here" Bullsh*t.
OSU has won two since 1968. TWO. Other than beating Clemson during the wear a mask season before getting humiliated by Bama - OSU has done crap since 2014. Nothing.
Now go do something more valuable with your life instead of trolling Michigan content. WAIT! Oh that's right - there ain't nothing else to do in cow-town. Well's there's four things actually...
1.) Work
2.) Get drunk and stuffing one's face with Wendy's burgers all week.
3.) Mowing the lawn to compete with the neighbors
4.) Depending on season - golf or Buckeye football - or both.
Life is far too precious to live have the wins and losses of 18-21 year old kids dictate your emotional well-being.
@@lukedlv615better hide the trophy before the NCAA rips it out of the showcase
I think Tuttle will help make this offense better. Not sure how much but at least a little bit
Evan Link is worthless but our coaches keep putting him out there. Moore has no clue how to run a football program. Our worthless A.D. won’t do anything for at least 3 years. We are in for a long 6 or 7 years.
I'm afraid I agree about Moore is clueless on how to run a football team
Bro i 100% agree with you nothing about this team makes sense i knew we aren't going to be as good but i didn't think we would drop off this much
Michigan was really good last year. But even the 2 seasons before 2023, they weren't that great. They packed the non-conf with cake, then CHEATED, then played most games at home. Then were embarrassed twice in the CFP.
They lost 9 starters. Michigan has come back to where they were 5 years ago. Last year gave Michigan fans a false sense of being elite.
Welcome back to earth.
@YTSparty listen kiddo the cheating shit isn't proven yet and we already been cleared by the ncaa president say what you want but we are the best team for 3 years and we won a national champ which will stay with us no matter what lol we been living rent free in so many weak peoples heads like yourself it's hilarious lol
@@YTSparty paul Bunyab is staying in Ann Arbor this year. I guess, according to your logic, you think that MSU gave you a false sense of hope being able to do nothing outside of the B1G?
It was great while it lasted. I see 6-6 or 7-5. We just lost too much from last season, both in players and coaches. Perhaps the biggest disappointment is the pass defense, they're ranked 115th out of 134 teams (not 114th as the video states) despite returning 3 of the 4 starters from last season. They need a QB. Tuttle looked fine yesterday. Once you're at the top, there's nowhere to go but down.
Personally, I don't think Turtle really looked good at all. He hit a few open passes, but missed a lot too. It's definitely a desperation move by Michigan to put him in the game. He's a 30-year senior who will be gone after the season, which is at the halfway point. Turtle, Warren, Arnou are all Seniors who are leaving after 6 games. They should just be concentrating on developing Orji, and Denegal for next season. Nobody knows if Jadyn Davis will stay, or even be ready next year.
What they need most of all is an offensive coordinator who can run a better offensive scheme. Kirk Campbell is a pure scrub.
That’s what happens when you build around cheating. Without that you don’t get wins and when you can’t use that you can’t win. Harbaugh was so desperate to win after getting beat for so many years he resorted to cheating and then left when they were caught 😢
I'm from Ohio. Thanks to Woody's disgraceful act at the end of the 1978 Gator Bowl - I vowed never to root for OSU again. Having said that. I lived in Columbus for 20-years and moved 3 years ago (Thank Goodness). The only things that I miss about cow-town, USA are Graeter's Ice Cream, Tommy's Pizza, and the DK Diner in Grandview.
The truth is that the cow-town (Is the herd still visible on Sawmill between Bethel and 161?) is starving for National Attention due to lack of Professional Sports Franchises. Please don't even start with the Jackets.
The fans are poor winners and losers. Come into the office and act like babies after an OSU loss. Grown men, some in their sixties wearing women's make up and wigs to the game. What's Buck-I-Man up to these days? The clown went to Earl Bruce's wake dressed up in his little costume. Signed the family memory board which was exclusively for players and coaches - Urban had to pitch his a$$ out.
Hope OSU is undefeated come 11/30. Michigan isn't going anywhere this year, so ALL PRESSURE ON DAY and his $20mm NIL roster at HOME. Your offensive line and defensive line are still suspect. The OL as been getting away with holding all year - today against Iowa, you guys took it to another level.
Good luck in Oregon. Penn State has a very physical team, toughest that I've seen in years. Franklin gave the game away last year and the year before 4 INTs.
Herbstreit, Galloway, Urban, Klatt, Thamel, Feldman, Perry, DiNardo, and how many others just love to push the "National Title or bust" - "We play for titles around here" Bullsh*t.
OSU has won two since 1968. TWO. Other than beating Clemson during the wear a mask season before getting humiliated by Bama - OSU has done crap since 2014. Nothing.
Now go do something more valuable with your life instead of trolling Michigan content. WAIT! Oh that's right - there ain't nothing else to do in cow-town. Well's there's four things actually...
1.) Work
2.) Get drunk and stuffing one's face with Wendy's burgers all week.
3.) Mowing the lawn to compete with the neighbors
4.) Depending on season - golf or Buckeye football - or both.
Life is far too precious to live have the wins and losses of 18-21 year old kids dictate your emotional well-being.
@@ReadingsbyDom Not sure what Michigan cheating scandal has to do with OSU? You’re cherry 🍒 picking and making wild generalizations about everything you mentioned in your LONG post. The simple fact is OSU does have one of the best storied past in college football. So does other schools and winning every year is unrealistic. You have some real anger 😡 towards a school because of what one person did 5 decades ago and who now is dead? I would advise some therapy and stop hating a whole state of people and lifestyle who by the way is just an arbitrary border made up 100’s of years ago. There are bigger things to worry about…
@ReadingsbyDom lmao someone's in their feelings😂
If you take away the stallion project there right where harbaugh had them his first 6 years.
Your GED just keeps providing non salient intellectual dividends.
Look at the record book.
Michigan is a mid program before and after cheating. Michigan fans need to accept that you are a michigan state level program.
@@sgregweswas that supposed to be some name calling comeback, because you lack the intellectual ability to make an intelligent response? He made a valid point “cause and affect”, cheating corresponds with vastly improved record.
Won a Natty without stallions. I'll take that again.
I am not surprised by any of this, I called it going back to last year. When Harbaugh was suspended, told my brother that certain people would be pushing for Moore as a coach, big mistake. I put this on the university administrators, for not looking for the right replacement. The easiest hire, is not always the best hire, the Hoke years are back with a vengeance.
Hey, he went on television and cried. He showed his loyalty to Jim. He got caught deleting text messages to, and from Connor too.
i think defense is the issue. Martindale is the issue, it was my concern going in, wished we retained coach clink. Offense could be worked out over time. The main issue has been defensive schemes.
How is d the issue when they’re on the field every five minutes?
I see some light at the end of this tunnel... People felt the same way during the 2020 season, but there is hope. I'm disappointed that you would even release such a video.
The light at the end of the tunnel is the oncoming train!
I would say it’s NCAA / BIG sanctions
@@razor7241ikr😂😂😂
The most important thing by far I think is they pay big bucks to land an elite but more importantly Head Coach that can RECRUIT. If that means overpaying than it is.
You are aware Michigan spent 15 million for this crap team ?
Fatty Warde Manuel will never do it.
I see UM winning 2 or 3 of the next 6 games. Winning against MS and NW.
The situation at Michigan reminds me of USC after the departure of Pete Carroll.
EXACTLY. Harbaugh ran to the NFL just like Pete Carroll when the NCAA came after the programs.
@@johnbochenek5526 the situation at Michigan reminds me of Rich Rodriguez. A chilling thought.
@@johnbochenek5526 I did not know Pete Carroll had a sign stealing coach on staff ?
@@tomspitler3353 I'd be surprised if he didn't. You know sign stealing is legal, right?
@@DOOMSTARKS-ib4fl legal yes no laws were broken. However Hiring a team of 15 people to attend games of future opponents to electronically record, signs signals and plays is not within the rules of the game and violates Big 10 regulations along with NCAA regulations. Trying to justify the legal system to say Michigan broke no laws is ludicrous.
They need a real QB. Do they use NIL money? They will be lucky to make a bowl game.
Kirk Campbell is trash does he even game plan to our strengths.
Hey everyone forgot that Michigan didn't spend money for players. This is Moore's first year and everyone is getting into their emotions. They will be okay.
I honestly think Moore winning those games last season as an interim coach was because Minter coached a great defense. Because our offense was really lighting it up
This is what you like when you don’t know the plays. Harbaugh was no different until he began cheating.
Michigan won a Natty and beat OSU 3 times in a row without your precious signs. Only the morons in Columbus would say stupid things like that
The team is 4-2 people are complaining as if they are 0-6. I doubt any of you people could do better if so you'd be on the team. I hope they can get better and there's still an outside chance of the playoffs with no more losses. Whatever I'm a MICHIGAN FAN win or lose.
LOL. Oregon, OSU? There's 2 auto-losses. The ceiling is 8 wins. No CFP for them.
I think msu beats em too. I think uofm goes 7-5 8-4 at best 6-6 at worst. @@YTSparty
@@RaymondSebastian-q8w lol msu is garbage
THE MUSIC CITY BOWL ................. AT THE BEST .......6-7 WINS IS THE CEILING !!!!!!!!!!!!
Michigan Wolverines football transcends college football. They are a brand bigger than most and I don't believe anything will prevent them from having consistent success. I'm an Illinois Fighting Illini fan.
Michigan lost their entire offensive line, they're starting quarterback and running back, all of their defensive coaches, and their head coach. What exactly did you think was going to happen this year?
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😮Six weeks into the season and Michigan is a non factor. Just another over hyped team like Colorado. At the very least, I give Michigan some credit for not stealing signs this year. Unfortunately, after last year, Michigan’s reputation will always be a program that cheats to win. It’s to bad
16:53 maybe “this offense is going to be great” was because our defense is actually trash which makes our terrible offense look good 😭 and I’m a Michigan fan. Blown secondary defenses made our QB’s look competent, only 3 players on Defense you feel confident in and 2 of them are on the Dline, I mean, do we even have linebackers this year? Ernest Haussmann looks like a freshman minus his interception on Saturday .I don’t think I’ve seen him or our other linebackers read a single play right and it’s not on the players entirely but even the commentators had mentioned that Zeke Berry is our most targeted defender in coverages and simultaneously gives up the most yards/completions.. it’s a coaching problem, a fundamentals problem, and problem.
The team is terrible...but they are 4 & 2. The football program is dying...but they are 4 & 2. It's the demise of Michigan football...but they are 4 & 2. They are on their 3rd QB...but they are 4 & 2. No matter how depressed, and unhappy you are...they are 4 & 2. So just chill out.
The fact is their schedule is way harder then it appears at the beginning of the season. Illinois and Indiana are pretty good now when they weren't supposed to be they could easily lose up to 5 and 6 if they don't fix this.
I’m sorry, is your point that we should be happy being above .500? What an L take.
The team isn't terrible, they have piss poor leadership under the coaches, and coordinators.
Offensively the biggest problem is Kirk Campbell who is not only the offensive coordinator, but also the QB coach.
Any decent coordinator would be doing a lot more with this offense by utilizing the players they have, and spreading out the defense. It will open up the run game more. Especially with someone like Orji.
Great observation...they are 4-2. That's only the half the season, and it's not getting easier.
How the fuck do they spread it out when 3 different QBs can’t make the throws consistently and your receivers can’t get open? If they spread out you would be complaining about turnovers. Your offensive skill players are trash. Their tide end is the best receiver.
Very honest and sobering video
I don’t need the fluff …. Give me the truth !!!! And I appreciate your info and agree with you !!!
There’s a lot to be mad about . But the defensive coordinator is unforgivable . I can find a way to be patient with everyone else . And I wish no one ill. But he’s gotta go . I keep writing long messages about all my frustrations with him and then erase it because it’s too long lol. I’m not mad at the players . It’s painfully obvious they are not being coached well. Some ppl disagree and that’s fine. Not everyone has to feel the same . And I generally do encourage patience , especially with this much new. But I cannot stand the way he does defense. I hope sherrone has a meeting with him soon . And gives him some…ultimatums. Or something
Warde Manuel ran Harbaugh outta town. I think Harbaugh's recommendation to hire Sherrone Moore was an FU to Warde Manuel. If Sherrone were any good, Harbaugh would've taken him to San Diego, too. I mean, why didn't Harbaugh also recommend, say, Jesse Minter? Lazy ass Warde Manuel didn't do his homework and that slob won't even start trying to fix this for a couple more years.
A lot of this is going to fall on Harbaugh leaving at the end of January and JJ McCarthy also deciding finally to leave by then as well. Michigan was gutted as a team with no time to go into the transfer portal to look for a new QB1 and instead rely on Jack Tuttle to be that player--but when he suffered a UCL injury, a tough nagging arm throwing injury in the Spring, the wheels were going to come off this car and soon. No QB1. Harbaugh left Michigan with no chance of getting anyone from the portal, too little, too late and no one left to recruit. Moore gambled that Tuttle could fit in and do the minimum but hey, players get injured, who knew? No back up. Thin bench there. As for the vaunted defense--again, gutted when Harbaugh took Jesse Minter with him to the Chargers and sorry, I'd take Minter or Martindale in a heartbeat. If Minter had stayed we'd be seeing a different team. If he had been named the head coach, we'd be seeing a different team. But that didn't happen. So, this patient is not hard to diagnose--a selfish coach leaves behind a gutted team both of coaches and players, a star QB leaves late for the same reasons, and a whole new coaching staff has to come together to meet the expectations of the fan base. Not going to happen. I think Michigan will be in the wilderness for a little while but not too long. I'd be more worried about Alabama's wheels coming off because that team seems a shadow of its former self culture-wise and focus. And we'll see if all that money really pays off for OSU this weekend when they finally play a real team in Oregon. It's a new era in college football.
The saving grace of college football for Michigan fans right now is the parity that is showing up in the sport. At least we still get to watch good games while our team is dogshit 😂
Well, I need therapy and anti-depressants at this time.
I’m going to give up on life now…
Lighten up Dude!
Sherrone can get different coordinators, transfer portal QB’s will be available next season.
Brady Hart is coming soon.
There is still hope for the future!
Do you know what Michigan football looks like without sign stealer guy?
You are seeing it now.
The pain for Michigan is just beginning. (KARMA can be a !@#$%)
It will get M U C H worse.
Moore has to remember how to game plan again. The last three years, they just waited for Connor to whisper in their ears.
They looked like Champions in 2023 seeing as Stallions wasn't there against their toughest opponents. National Champs!!!
@@Al-Rudigor 🤣🤣🤣 you dont even understand how signs work. Moore was the OC ffs.
@@DOOMSTARKS-ib4fl you don't know what I know. Look, they cheated and got caught. Punishment is coming. Berating me in a comment section won't change that. Maybe you should send a letter to the NCAA, explaining to them how signs work.
I'm from Ohio. Thanks to Woody's disgraceful act at the end of the 1978 Gator Bowl - I vowed never to root for OSU again. Having said that. I lived in Columbus for 20-years and moved 3 years ago (Thank Goodness). The only things that I miss about cow-town, USA are Graeter's Ice Cream, Tommy's Pizza, and the DK Diner in Grandview.
The truth is that the cow-town (Is the herd still visible on Sawmill between Bethel and 161?) is starving for National Attention due to lack of Professional Sports Franchises. Please don't even start with the Jackets.
The fans are poor winners and losers. Come into the office and act like babies after an OSU loss. Grown men, some in their sixties wearing women's make up and wigs to the game. What's Buck-I-Man up to these days? The clown went to Earl Bruce's wake dressed up in his little costume. Signed the family memory board which was exclusively for players and coaches - Urban had to pitch his a$$ out.
Hope OSU is undefeated come 11/30. Michigan isn't going anywhere this year, so ALL PRESSURE ON DAY and his $20mm NIL roster at HOME. Your offensive line and defensive line are still suspect. The OL as been getting away with holding all year - today against Iowa, you guys took it to another level.
Good luck in Oregon. Penn State has a very physical team, toughest that I've seen in years. Franklin gave the game away last year and the year before 4 INTs.
Herbstreit, Galloway, Urban, Klatt, Thamel, Feldman, Perry, DiNardo, and how many others just love to push the "National Title or bust" - "We play for titles around here" Bullsh*t.
OSU has won two since 1968. TWO. Other than beating Clemson during the wear a mask season before getting humiliated by Bama - OSU has done crap since 2014. Nothing.
Now go do something more valuable with your life instead of trolling Michigan content. WAIT! Oh that's right - there ain't nothing else to do in cow-town. Well's there's four things actually...
1.) Work
2.) Get drunk and stuffing one's face with Wendy's burgers all week.
3.) Mowing the lawn to compete with the neighbors
4.) Depending on season - golf or Buckeye football - or both.
Life is far too precious to live have the wins and losses of 18-21 year old kids dictate your emotional well-being.
Turns out that big boy college football is hard when you don't know what the other team is doing in advance. Cope all you want but the fact that essentially the same defensive lineup went from top 5 to 116th in pass defense between January and September is all the proof you need
“Same defensive lineup” my brother in Christ 8 players from the 2023 defense graduated or moved on to the NFL 😂
You really expose this team and the coaching staff. Michigan fans have a long road ahead of them and are needing to realize the fall of this program over the next few years unless someone can change the current staff and coaches.
Now i see why Michigan fans are considered some of the most obnoxious. ITS A REBUILDING YEAR. Yes, sometimes you get bad schedules, but this is the hardest schedule ever. THE PAC 10 IS IN THE HOUSE. Beating USC is it, be happy, ya whiny brats!
Moores coaching staff absolutely sucks 😡😡😡😡😡😡, and I've been a Michigan fan for 40 years!!
What happened after Michigan State let Saban go? Iconic coaches don’t come around everyday!
Your M - MAN ran off to the NFL - & - took all the good coaches with him ! (🤗) This Nov. trip to the Shoe will certainly be one to remember !!!
Moore on the hot seat
Why is everyone acting like Michigan is this juggernaut that's wildly underachieving? It took them years to develop the core they had last year and alot of them are gone now including the coaches. They're not Georgia or Ohio State who can reload with top 5 classes every year and a pipeline of elite assistants. They're exactly where they're supposed to be at 4-2. Not great but not terrible.
This whining is hilarious! They thought in a year without harbaugh and JJ that they were gonna win 2 out of three against Texas, Washington at home AND USC? This isn’t the big 10 from the 70s and 80s. Michigan might win the Big 10 every 20 years. It is what it is.
As far as them not being terrible though, if they do t figure out how to pass the ball, Donovan is gonna get hurt and that’ll be that. There are NO playmakers at the receiving position.
0:29 is it a requirement you need connections in order to talk about sports? Some people are just weird.
Tel me about it 😂
@@Darrentalksball Even some of the people in your comment section here are... a little different lol!
We figured we’d get some tin foil hat wearers in the comments on this one. But like a crazy uncle on Thanksgiving you just gotta ignore them til they get bored and retreat to their respective basements.
@@Darrentalksball haha that's definitely true!
I mean... why is the defense so terrible when you've got so many studs still on defense from last year? Could it be that not knowing the plays the offense will run ahead of time actually matters... when you don't have to first read and react as to whether it's a pass or run because you already knew...hmmm😮
Did you people really think that they were going to run through this meat grinder schedule without JJ and without Harbaugh and all the rest without losing a bunch of games?😂😂😂😂 look, letting the pac 10 into the big 10 could only have one result. Michigan will win every 20-30 years, that’s it.
Seems like harbaugh gutted, then took a big dump on the program when he left
Reporters never change, all follow suit,they can do it better i guess
This is so stupid. Recruiting class is better than Jim's, they have skill everywhere minus WR (average and need a playmaker) - they simply need a high quality QB and will VERY likely get one as soon as this season is over.
What about the oline? What about depth? The recruiting looks no different if you don't start recruiting better and get with the nil it won't matter this could be a setback.
@@ammielcoats9762 Depth is there now - all great portal players and 4 star guys. They are young on the O-line but it is and will get better - a competent passer will make it look better. NIL is doing much better and recruiting is about 5 spots ahead of Jim's average class and right there with top 5 Penn State. Development and coaching is key.
Who recommended Wink to Moore? Thought it was a bad hire from the start. The young DC model was working too good I suppose. How did Moore/Campbell think for a nano-second that it was a good QB room that led to them NOT exploring portal QB’s? wtf
Guess us lame brain fans can be right on occasion
“Rambly”? No, you are asking great common sense questions.
Thanks man 🙏
Michigan will lose 2 or 3 more games but….demise? I don’t know. They can fix the coaching staff, get Bryce Underwood and get back on track pretty quickly in 1 or 2 years. Still plenty of talent in Ann Arbor.
Fixing the coaching staff isn't as easy as you think it affects recruiting as well building relationships with recruits it is a demise not to mention about the potential sanctions.
Don Brown’s defenses were way better than this. Brown typically would beat most teams than lose to that team down south.
Demise really dramatic much will be fine this season will get worse before it get better nxt year
Co.pletely normal for college ft bl, cant reign for season after season, freshman players end up graduating
Campbell was fired from Old Dominion what does that tell you?
Talk about over reacting!!! You don’t have an elite QB. You need an elite QB to be elite. The coaching is fine, especially given you don’t have play making ability. The coaching is fine.
Talk about Moore when he has an elite QB. Then you can talk about the demise,if the program.
Sc fan, just came to find solace
first timer... great show. very balanced
Thank you!
If you get a 3 million dollar QB and still stink then yes.
Another 3-4 losses are coming for this team. Michigan appears to be on a collision course with the Hoke era. Next year is gonna be even worse when graham, grant, will, and Loveland all leave. Couple that with the ncaa sanctions coming, this program is in serious serious trouble.
Yeah, you were a putz to believe the hype.
Secondary is GARBAGE
Guess my comment was to poignant, it was blocked!
One slow season yall talking demise of michigan lol please don't be tourists, harbaugh and hoke had plenty bad seasons and this year not even close
This is Hoke 2.0 coaching.
The coaching is worse than Brady Hoke, but they also don’t have a QB, receivers, or an O line.
I just think that wink an Campbell needs to get fired sherrone might just get fired him offense was ugly didn't understand why you put a QB that threw an int an fumbled yet they didn't give Orji to play his type of game. Campbell can't call a game an Wink just wants to blitz don't be stupid this college I see them losing more than 4 games this season.
Stallions! Stallions! Stallions!........that's the extent of the Ohio State fan vocabulary........they really believe they or anyone else doesn't steal signs........the level of bafoonery that dribbles from their comments is on a whole notha' level.😂
Well we are a cheating program and have to admit it, accept punishment, and serve the sentence. The cheating helped us feel good at the time but we are now a pariah program that good people will avoid.
HAIL to the CHEATERS.
Who got cheated last year?
Give it a rest idiot!
I'm from Ohio. Thanks to Woody's disgraceful act at the end of the 1978 Gator Bowl - I vowed never to root for OSU again. Having said that. I lived in Columbus for 20-years and moved 3 years ago (Thank Goodness). The only things that I miss about cow-town, USA are Graeter's Ice Cream, Tommy's Pizza, and the DK Diner in Grandview.
The truth is that the cow-town (Is the herd still visible on Sawmill between Bethel and 161?) is starving for National Attention due to lack of Professional Sports Franchises. Please don't even start with the Jackets.
The fans are poor winners and losers. Come into the office and act like babies after an OSU loss. Grown men, some in their sixties wearing women's make up and wigs to the game. What's Buck-I-Man up to these days? The clown went to Earl Bruce's wake dressed up in his little costume. Signed the family memory board which was exclusively for players and coaches - Urban had to pitch his a$$ out.
Hope OSU is undefeated come 11/30. Michigan isn't going anywhere this year, so ALL PRESSURE ON DAY and his $20mm NIL roster at HOME. Your offensive line and defensive line are still suspect. The OL as been getting away with holding all year - today against Iowa, you guys took it to another level.
Good luck in Oregon. Penn State has a very physical team, toughest that I've seen in years. Franklin gave the game away last year and the year before 4 INTs.
Herbstreit, Galloway, Urban, Klatt, Thamel, Feldman, Perry, DiNardo, and how many others just love to push the "National Title or bust" - "We play for titles around here" Bullsh*t.
OSU has won two since 1968. TWO. Other than beating Clemson during the wear a mask season before getting humiliated by Bama - OSU has done crap since 2014. Nothing.
Now go do something more valuable with your life instead of trolling Michigan content. WAIT! Oh that's right - there ain't nothing else to do in cow-town. Well's there's four things actually...
1.) Work
2.) Get drunk and stuffing one's face with Wendy's burgers all week.
3.) Mowing the lawn to compete with the neighbors
4.) Depending on season - golf or Buckeye football - or both.
Life is far too precious to live have the wins and losses of 18-21 year old kids dictate your emotional well-being.
@@ReadingsbyDom That is a lot of response for something you claim is of little value. Thank you for your interest in the Buckeyes. Well done.
@@DOOMSTARKS-ib4fl OH, no one! "Nothing to see here, officer." But UM has 90 days to respond to the NOA, and the Admin hasn't been quite as snarky as Runaway Harbaugh. They seem to be softening their position in order to soften the blow of the impending punishment. Or, maybe nothing actually happened, so the Natty is safe and secure. Hehehe
Nah it's just a bad year
I disagree with your take on the coaching. They are doing a great job considering they lost Connor this year….
How is this team going to recruit? Coaching really sucks, under investigation for cheating, vacating wins and championships and bowl bands likely. Sounds really inviting if I was a recruit. Maybe they should get into a conference with Appalachian state, oh wait….
Lol they're not vacating the Natty. Fines and recruiting penalties and maybe a couple games suspension for Moore.
@@DOOMSTARKS-ib4fl Then why hasn't there been a settlement already? You don't think the administration would sign off on those penalties immediately?
@@T.K... if their lawyers can get a better deal, no they would not sign off. That's kinda how these things work.
@@DOOMSTARKS-ib4fl Do you think the penalties you laid out are on the table? Or are you saying that you think the lawyers will be able to negotiate down to those penalties?
@@T.K... idk which penalties are on the table. Seeing as it was a minor rules violation I would assume it's something along those lines. I'm also saying that the lawyers should try to get a better deal no matter what.
😂😂😂😂 🍿 👀 😂😂
The folks on here saying Harbaugh left because he left the school because of scandals and had to leave because the NCAA was coming, are flat wrong.
Two of his “scandals” were for a hamburger and an extra coach on a zoom call.
The third “scandal” was found to have no link to him after a complete investigation.
The sign stealing thing is so overblown and almost all coaches admit that they change signals weekly. Also, from week 8 on, the entire world knew about this story and if you believe it made a difference to beat MSU, it was impossible to make a difference from week 8 on. UM was better than every team besides O$U and they beat them because Day can’t hold a candle to Harbaugh.
Harbaugh recruited like a genius, he signed a 5 star QB, grabbed 3 and 4 stars who he could develop and sent 18 players to the NFL after winning it all.
Harbaugh it still here, would not have sat back all offseason and not signed players in the portal. DEI Moore had no experience and that is why he was the only top tier program to not sign players via the portal.
Lastly, he brought in a terrible DC and OC.
Harbaugh turned around a failure of a program, was railroaded by the NCAA who never found a single link to the scandal and left because the AD wanted Moore.
It's not sign stealing its advanced scouting there's a difference stopped thinking it's nothing the NC double assholes take their time with this.