Beginners Guide to Flight Planning with SIDs and STARs
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- A simple guide to flight planning for flight simulators, including SIDs, STARs, en-route planning, transitions and approaches. Specific mention is made of European and North American airways and waypoints.
This video uses a sample flight between London Gatwick and Manchester airports in the UK to illustrate the points covered.
Only freely available web applications have been used in this video:
SkyVector : skyvector.com/
NATS : www.nats-uk.ead...
RouteFinder : rfinder.asalink...
Real World Flighplan Database : edi-gla.co.uk
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My gosh I had no idea it was all so detailed. One would need a LOT of practice and repetition to remember all that information. Out of the numerous "tutorials" I've searched for on YT this is by far the very best I've found. Clear and concise. Well done sir, now if I can just remember it all.....Thank you very much of sharing your knowledge. Chances are I'll be going over this video more than just once.
Thank you so much, you make it feel so simple. Have to confess thou, that when you talk I imagine Sir David Attenborough.
you sound like a narrator off of the discovery channel xD keep up the good work enjoyed the vid
Many many thanks for a great, well illustrated and well spoken introduction to flight planning. This video has gone straight to my favourites for future reference.
Muy
Sir,
Thank you so much. I had gone thru many videos and study material to understand SID and STAR.I found this as the best one.
Good Lord ! So much useful information, basicly everything I was looking for to stop direct GPS flying. Thank you so much !
Gracias MrCobolman por ese trabajo. I like the way you explain the things: very clear and with the right speed.
definitely the best tutorial
Such a simple and amazing explanation. Described slowly and clear and detailed. Thank you so much sir.
Thanks for making a potentially difficult concept exceedingly easy.
Exellent espesically for beginners - Thankyou
Clearly and succinctly put. The clearest explanation that I have seen. Thank you.
Robert Langford That's very kind - thank you.
Great introduction to this subject. Thank you!
Many thanks, it made sense of the sids and stars connecting with the flight plan. Very easy to understand, lets see if I can put it into practice
Merci pour ces explications ! Clearly explained, even for complete noobies as I am !
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These have puzzled me and although I do understand, I still have to carry out the steps. But thanks for the help, at least I'm now on the way!
Thank you so much for this video. you have no idea how much this has helped me out!
Great Video. Thanks
Very clear and detailed explanation, thanks!
Just what I needed, new to this. Thanks!
Excellent! You're exactly the kind of person I created this video for.
Enjoyed the video. Nice slow easy to follow, thanks.
Thanks!
Really nicely done sir....I am still trying to grasp transitions though...
Chas
hesynergy Hi Chas - Thanks for your kind comment.
@SHT2906: "a bit of an unfortunate call sign..." -LOL!
Fantastic !! Much needed clear video. Thanks very much for taking the time to help frustrated others ! :-)
+David Brewster Pleasure. Thanks for your kind comment.
My head is going to explode after watching this haha. Damn so much awesome value in this!
This is the only video on UA-cam which explains all the details of creating a flight plan specially SIDS and STARS. Thank you sir for such a video!
But I couldn't get few things even after watching it again and again!
First, while explaining SIDS 14:46 - 15:00, how is it that LAM 4M 4V are for runway 26? I cannot find it anywhere written on the chart.
Secondly, while explaining Approach 16:55 - 17:00, how did you know that DAYNE applies to us? (If it's because it appeared while making flight plan then that's not going to be the case always. There's got to be some real explanation to it)
Nice description of the general overall process. I only saw one minor error. V278 runs between SQS VOR and IGB VOR not GWO and GTR as you describe at 4:53 - 5:09.
Thanks. I learned a lot
Well done and explain tank you Mr Cobolman
Thanks!
Amazing video, very helpful
excellent video
Thank you that was very useful and clear, cheers
Excellent narration. To be honest I couldn't tell where the runways were in the SIDs and STARs maps. That left me pretty lost. I still learnt a lot but I wouldn't be able to do what you just did for another airport nor could I justify many of your decisions. Thanks for the video though :)
Dear Mrcobolman, congratulations for your channel! For FS begginers like me, your videos are priceless, because they help us getting along with the standards of aviation. You really earned another subscriber and I'll surelly share your channel among other FS simmers.
Could you please tell me if this information is available on pdf? it was helpful to have a pdf guide with this information to quick check while piloting. I searched on Google but unfortunately didn't find any. Hope you can help me.
Again, thank you and congratulations for your channel.
Kind regards,
Edgar
Thanks for another excellent and informative video. Could you cover what transitions are and how to use them in a future video please?
Keep up the great work :)
WillsB3 Thanks for your kind words. Transitions are one of many on the backlog. My next three videos consist of:
a. Airbus crash on Approach to Manchester
b. Another custom flight in the Airbus. EGGD - EGPH, with live weather.
c. Non-Precision Approaches
If you haven't already, why not subscribe and get notified immediately whenever I publish a new video.
MrCobolman Good to hear. Looking forward to your next videos - already subscribed :)
great video, very clear. If you are an plane user could you do a tutorial on an ils landing :-)
I use simbreif for my flights :)
Hi, I followed your video and created a flight using skyvector but then am confused how to export this plan into fs2004? I've looked at the flight planner within Fs2004 and not all airways show so I can't manually create the flight plan from skyvector?
really Excellent
Thanks!
I don't expect an answer as this is such an old video, but at 14:44 how do you know that 4M is for the runway that you have chosen? This has always been my problem when flight planning - knowing the specifics that allows you to make the right choice when presented with such a variety of choices.
I only got one question: How do you continue flying from (in this example) DAYNE to Manchester? Because the way isn't shown in the chart... Or will the tower vector you to the runway? And why do you have to fly over the airport at first instead of entering the approach path straight?
Great Tutorial! IMO you only mixed up TA with TL. For descents T(ransition) L(evel) is relevant not the T(ransition) A(ltitude). As per the chart in your video TL will be given by ATC and is usually depending on QNH.
+FTStratLP Thanks both for the kind comment and the added information
+MrCobolman
No worries! :-)
Keep on your great tutorials! I have learned a lot from them.
Interesting....Are you going to show how to program flight computer and fly it? Maybe in Aerosoft airbus?
Hi Barry
Indeed I am (and have) Video coming later today.
Hi Barry
Video now published and titled 'First Custom Route Gatwick (EGKK) to Manchester (EGCC) using the Aerosoft Airbus A319' Available here : ua-cam.com/video/5ykjRqzu26Q/v-deo.html
Amazing video!
Are you a real pilot?
Ok I need to know for beginners how do I know what sid / star to choose
I thought u land into the wind, not with it. So if wind is 270, wouldn't you use 090 for example????
Hi Helen, I can understand how you are confused, I used to think this too but if the wind is 270 this means it is coming from the West (from 270) so you land to the west which is into the wind :)
good.
Very well explained but, there's still some stuff that I don't fully understand how all this works in real life.
I mean, you say to choose SIDs and STARs depending on the route we want and runway we're going to use but, suppose that the weather changes at the arrival airport and control tower routes you to a different runway that uses different SIDs.
Do pilots reprogram the FMS in-flight and if so, doesn't that betray the whole purpose of highly detailed flight planning?!
I'm probably missing out on a lot of stuff here probably because I don't yet fully understand how flight planning and ATC really work in real life and how to properly mimic using FSX.
oh, well, time to dig deeper into the subject...
+PrimiusLovin Great question. It's common, especially on longer journeys, to leave the STAR out until you start your descent towards your destination and have the weather. This information, and advice from ATC, will clue you in as to which STAR to use. At that stage, you program the FMC with the appropriate STAR. The selection of a STAR doesn't usually affect fuel consumption for an approach and landing as it's mostly all downhill.
yeah, I had imagined it would be something like that, and I've also just learned that airline pilots don't really do this kind of flight planning at all!
It's something that's done by flight dispatchers
Yes, exactly so.
Hi there! I have just started with X-Plane and wanted to learn how to get around the skies, so this is GREAT! I am following what you do step by step, and have subscribed to SkyVector...but mine looks slightly different to yours! At 11:12 in your video, you hit an "Add" button which I don't see on my version. Is that merely because I have an updated version, or are there different choices for SkyVector installation, like "commercial" versus "private, I'm only learning!"...? Thanks!
+Phil Taylor Hi Phil - I just checked out SkyVector and it looks like they made it even better!
After clicking the Flight Plan link, enter in the route as usual (LAM WELIN TNT in my example) Now enter in the Departure and Destination fields (EGKK and EGCC in my example). SkyVector will now automatically insert the SID and STAR. In the example, I had LAM5W for the SID and DAYN2A for the STAR.
There's enough here for a video on its own so I think that's what I'll do. Watch out for an updated video soon.
+MrCobolman Excellent! I was s bit worried that I'd be playing around with flight plans but 'someone' might be treating them as real! I had to sign up to a whole load of legal disclaimers about my flight plans..!
Hi Phil
Take very great care here. I think it was flightsim481 that posted a warning about this on his channel. SkyVector can be used to file real world flight plans.
They WILL come after you if you inadvertently file a plan. Flightsim481's advice was, if you're using SkyVector, DON'T login and definitely don't file anything.
Please take care.
+MrCobolman Hi again, and yes - my first thought was to immediately logout after registering. Hope other's don't fall foul.
My airac is out of date!
This is my first and I find myself lost.
A couple of questions: that NATS aeronautical information service. is it only for UK? is it any other web site with SID/STAR information for different countries?
+Luis Medina Hello Luis - Other countries do indeed have websites with SID/STAR information. Coverage is patchy though. Google is your friend.
@@MrCobolman-FSPro Google hasn't been particularly helpful, it's just paywall after paywall after paywall.
When I fly with SIDS and STARS is it better to file a flight plan with VFR flight rules or IFR? I use radar contact version 4. Any good flight planners you recommend that includes SIDS and STARS?
Caleb Hodson I always do IFR.
www.simbrief.com/home/
This one can be very helpful. Create an account and enter your departure airport and your arrival airport and it will do everything else.
how did you get the wind direction for gatwick hence the active runway
+Neal McCullough Hello Neal - there are many ways to get the wind. If you're using real world weather, use any one of the many METAR and TAF weather information sites on the Internet. If you're using Active Sky Next, they'll provide the weather information for you. Of course, you could also program in your own weather into your flight sim. And that's just a few options.
+MrCobolman thanks mate I just use the FSX built in real world weather no add ons so that answers my question I just thought there was a way of getting atis by tuning my com radio to a certain frequency without having to open up the annoying default atc which is rubbish
As I recall, If you are using FSX Classic, then the real world weather is actually historical rather than real. This is because the weather servers were taken down some time ago. There is indeed a way to get the weather by tuning in ATIS - watch out for a new video in a couple of days where I do just that! (It'll be based on the default A321)
I'm using the steam edition so i'm not sure if that uses historical weather or not even still I'd imagine FSX wouldn't be advanced enough to have an active runway based on the weather for example Dublin airport usually uses runway 28 as the active runway as does FSX but in the all the time I've been playing FSX any time I ever used the standard ATC runway 28 has ALWAYS been the one in use they never seem to vary it based on wind direction
17:39 Shouldn't we focus on Transition level when we land at that airport?
When ever u r jumping from page to page pls wave your cursor to the subject or words. Otherwise, It becomes difficult to follow wat u r explaining. Thnks for the video.
Another waste of my time!