I have read a bunch of the comments and all I can tell you its a great time to be a mt biker. I don;t really believe there is a bad bike out there. I am on the older side and when I started riding we would have killed for a bike like this. Lets be honest the biggest limiting factor is the rider. Nate Hills says its 90 percent rider 10 percent bike, unless of course you are some pro rider. I ran into someone on the trail the other day with this exact bike. We were on your traditional rocky technical New England trail and he was loving it. He was crushing the trail and having a blast, that;s all that counts.
I have one its extremely capibable and an amazing decender! I think you guys are just more used to longer travel bikes and not used to the scott platform yet.
The genius is perfect for trail & CC riders who want something more comfortable and faster. The twin loc is brilliant with road climbs and getting to the trails. Full lock out is great. Also, trail mode is really useful and makes it feel like a trail bike - so you just about get two bikes in one. Can fully recommend the bike. I have the 950, and I think a 34mm fork would be a good upgrade.
It feels like a trail bike because it is a trail bike. Scott classifies it as a trail bike. But it's a very capable trail bike. We will probably see LT version (all mountain/enduro) next year. I own 2 Scott bikes and i can say that the quality on their frames is second to none. Realy good, quality bikes.
For someone who wants a bike that can do it all but lives in a mostly flat area (columbus OH), would it be bad to get this bike and use it mostly in the traction control mode? On weekends I'll probably be travelling to more hilly parts out of state, but I wonder if it'll damage some internal components if I ride this bike for days in traction mode.
Why would the frame size matter. It sure matters a little, but before that is an issue you would have to get rid of personal prefrence, tyre pressure diffrences etc. A diffrent size wont completely cahnge the bike.
I stand corrected.. I was thinking about bike geo. Coming from times where bike company's would put longer stem on bigger size frame rather than change /make frame itself longer ( it's a lot cheaper this way -i know). On this model top tube length between Large and XL is 4cm -to me it's a noticeable difference.
These testers sound awkward... The Nude shock from Scott/Fox does not add any progressivity when you change mode. It reduces travel (OK they said it) and changes the geometry of the bike, meaning the SAG decreases when you switch in Traction mode, nothing with progressivity, that's why the BB gets higher (they said this also). The cables are just a detail, complaining about that is a purist's quirk. Anyway with the front derailleur being ditched very often nowadays, we are back to the same number. And if the Twinloc disturbs, actually you can ask for the other's side version or just change the dropper's remote on the other side. I did that it's pristine clear. I own the Genius LT 710 2014 upgraded with Fox Factory 2016 suspensions. It's THE bike FOR ME because i like how it rides good and feels different when i push that lever adapting to the terrain without having to remove my hands from the handlebar.
This review seems to be more of the components that the bike itself. Any other bike manufacturer can source out the same components they talked about (tires, fork, shock, bar, fender, etc.). The only difference between bike brands is just pretty much the frame and rear suspension design. Everything else is just how the components are packaged which can be changed by the rider.
To me Scott bikes have to many gadgets. They're for the "Gadget Geeks" that think they need everything including a kitchen sink on everything they own. They are nice bikes but not for me. Nice review!
There's a compression damping adjust on every shock/fork. Scott just mount it on the bar. Again, take the twin-lock off and install a standard shock/fork adjuster. Then you're not stuck with a compromised design like Yeti's.
Right.."comp'd" design like yeti..I've demoed Scott models couple times, Genius being one of them. I can only say "meh". I was not impressed with the ride and feel of their bikes. A lot of people like them, sure, but also at one point a lot of people liked 9r, or at least made themselves like 9r until everyone redesigned 29rs to actually ride good. So...you'd rather have a bike that relies on basically locking the shocks out than a bike co that at least tries to do something different (marketing hype aside of course). Scott (as far as I am aware) hasn't changed anything about their bikes for cpl years, instead fine tuning the "lock-out" mech?? C'mon, even trek progresses more than these guys with really good results. I'll take a scott if it is the last bike in the demo barn at the shop, wouldnt buy one at all. Ex. I tested a Mojo HD3 back to back with a genious 720, I went to the ibis guy as he was packing up and told him I shlda tried the Ripley, he told me he hears that all the time lol. go figure from a demo tour rep.
mike jones What about how they redesigned the suspension so that it is now trunnion mounted which made the bike more progressive and gave it a better pedaling platform. Is that not a solid innovation?
scott just doesnt do it for me. Everyone is adding trunnion mnt shocks to their designs...Evil Following MB now has a trunnion mnt, same delta link. Like I said, id rather have a clean handlbar set up. It was seriously like 6 hoses coming off those bars on the scott!
I have read a bunch of the comments and all I can tell you its a great time to be a mt biker. I don;t really believe there is a bad bike out there. I am on the older side and when I started riding we would have killed for a bike like this. Lets be honest the biggest limiting factor is the rider. Nate Hills says its 90 percent rider 10 percent bike, unless of course you are some pro rider. I ran into someone on the trail the other day with this exact bike. We were on your traditional rocky technical New England trail and he was loving it. He was crushing the trail and having a blast, that;s all that counts.
I have one its extremely capibable and an amazing decender! I think you guys are just more used to longer travel bikes and not used to the scott platform yet.
The genius is perfect for trail & CC riders who want something more comfortable and faster. The twin loc is brilliant with road climbs and getting to the trails. Full lock out is great. Also, trail mode is really useful and makes it feel like a trail bike - so you just about get two bikes in one. Can fully recommend the bike. I have the 950, and I think a 34mm fork would be a good upgrade.
It feels like a trail bike because it is a trail bike. Scott classifies it as a trail bike. But it's a very capable trail bike. We will probably see LT version (all mountain/enduro) next year. I own 2 Scott bikes and i can say that the quality on their frames is second to none. Realy good, quality bikes.
Scott Genius frame is category 4
-Just like most enduro frames.
Yes, it is. DH and FR are 5, genius and genius LT are category 4.
@@hus4berg and it seems like they tried to classify it as an XC bike in this video?? Very confusing review
Why haven't you reviewed the canyon strive
What do you guys think about the Orbea Rallon in comparison to this bike? In the all mountain, best all-around bike?
Scott bikes are the best.
On the 27.5 do you pick whether or not it comes with 2.6 or 2.8 tires?
Ihave a question on that dropper post lever is normal that when you push down it touch on rear and front lock out levet?
For someone who wants a bike that can do it all but lives in a mostly flat area (columbus OH), would it be bad to get this bike and use it mostly in the traction control mode? On weekends I'll probably be travelling to more hilly parts out of state, but I wonder if it'll damage some internal components if I ride this bike for days in traction mode.
Ye7ia07 I'm wondering the same thing. Being from Florida
Cool vid. Thanks. Not sure what frame size you tested but geometry of new Scott Genius is on par with mondraker foxy/dune.
Why would the frame size matter. It sure matters a little, but before that is an issue you would have to get rid of personal prefrence, tyre pressure diffrences etc. A diffrent size wont completely cahnge the bike.
I stand corrected.. I was thinking about bike geo. Coming from times where bike company's would put longer stem on bigger size frame rather than change /make frame itself longer ( it's a lot cheaper this way -i know). On this model top tube length between Large and XL is 4cm -to me it's a noticeable difference.
Could someone help with Scott supplier distributor iwould like to ask them
would love to hear your thoughts on some of the whyte bikes, t130, s150 etc. Love these vids
These testers sound awkward... The Nude shock from Scott/Fox does not add any progressivity when you change mode. It reduces travel (OK they said it) and changes the geometry of the bike, meaning the SAG decreases when you switch in Traction mode, nothing with progressivity, that's why the BB gets higher (they said this also). The cables are just a detail, complaining about that is a purist's quirk. Anyway with the front derailleur being ditched very often nowadays, we are back to the same number. And if the Twinloc disturbs, actually you can ask for the other's side version or just change the dropper's remote on the other side. I did that it's pristine clear.
I own the Genius LT 710 2014 upgraded with Fox Factory 2016 suspensions. It's THE bike FOR ME because i like how it rides good and feels different when i push that lever adapting to the terrain without having to remove my hands from the handlebar.
This review seems to be more of the components that the bike itself. Any other bike manufacturer can source out the same components they talked about (tires, fork, shock, bar, fender, etc.). The only difference between bike brands is just pretty much the frame and rear suspension design. Everything else is just how the components are packaged which can be changed by the rider.
Yes, but most people buy the complete bike and want to know how the components perform. It's not like they don't talk about the bike at all.
Sounded like Ryan liked the bar/stem thing. Would’ve liked to hear his take on it.
Michael Clark me too, I feel she was interrupting a lot on this test.
I have a Scott Jr 24 voltage and boi it's travels 50mm
I want one
Sorry but I find this format of review rather boring and stilted. More riding shots and decent editing with voice overs instead please.
To me Scott bikes have to many gadgets. They're for the "Gadget Geeks" that think they need everything including a kitchen sink on everything they own. They are nice bikes but not for me. Nice review!
StrikeForce Dad - Wrong. Gadget geeks ride e-bikes !
1 gadget, Twinlok. Not that many.
one gadget which is why it climbs better than most of the bikes in the test.
Omg Nice bike love iT
I think Scott Genius is a great bike but you tried a lot of super expensive bikes an now you are thinking isn't that great.
Keep up the great work
I preferred these vids when everyone was sucking on a beer.
Seems like last year's was much better. Definitely tested better. New rear suspension looks like giant copy
Scott should've stuck to ski boots... NEXT!
Take the Twin-Lock off. Done.
Clueless testers. Way too much anti-rise on Switch Infinity which is why Scott didn't use a gimmicky marketing design.
"didn't use gimmicky marketing design"-goes and uses twin lock design (gimmicky marketing design)
There's a compression damping adjust on every shock/fork. Scott just mount it on the bar. Again, take the twin-lock off and install a standard shock/fork adjuster. Then you're not stuck with a compromised design like Yeti's.
Right.."comp'd" design like yeti..I've demoed Scott models couple times, Genius being one of them. I can only say "meh". I was not impressed with the ride and feel of their bikes. A lot of people like them, sure, but also at one point a lot of people liked 9r, or at least made themselves like 9r until everyone redesigned 29rs to actually ride good. So...you'd rather have a bike that relies on basically locking the shocks out than a bike co that at least tries to do something different (marketing hype aside of course). Scott (as far as I am aware) hasn't changed anything about their bikes for cpl years, instead fine tuning the "lock-out" mech?? C'mon, even trek progresses more than these guys with really good results. I'll take a scott if it is the last bike in the demo barn at the shop, wouldnt buy one at all. Ex. I tested a Mojo HD3 back to back with a genious 720, I went to the ibis guy as he was packing up and told him I shlda tried the Ripley, he told me he hears that all the time lol. go figure from a demo tour rep.
mike jones What about how they redesigned the suspension so that it is now trunnion mounted which made the bike more progressive and gave it a better pedaling platform. Is that not a solid innovation?
scott just doesnt do it for me. Everyone is adding trunnion mnt shocks to their designs...Evil Following MB now has a trunnion mnt, same delta link. Like I said, id rather have a clean handlbar set up. It was seriously like 6 hoses coming off those bars on the scott!