Check out the full review of the Scott Genius 900 Tuned right here: Part 1: singletrackworld.com/2018/05/longterm-review-part-one-2018-scott-genius-900-tuned/ Part 2: singletrackworld.com/2018/07/long-term-review-did-wil-ruin-the-scott-genius-900-tuned-test-bike-with-these-3-changes/
Hey there Guy! I certainly did - I tried the 29in wheel up front, with a 27.5+ wheel out back, and in both the High and Low geometry positions. The setup works pretty well - you get a little more rollover on the front wheel, and the steering is a touch more neutral. The big 27.5+ rear tyre gives you loads of traction and comfort too. In the Low geometry position, the head angle gets even slacker - around 64.5 with the 29/27.5+ wheel setup. That said, I found I still ended up with the downsides of the plus tyres. The rear tyre is quite squidgy and vague when being hammered into corners, and you can also feel the additional weight and rolling resistance on any section of trail that isn't downhill. Personally, I think the benefits of plus tyres are more advantageous on a shorter travel bike, or ideally, on a hardtail. On a 150mm travel full suspension bike like this, which is already quite plush and comfortable to ride, I didn't find the benefits to significant enough to warrant the plus tyres. I reckon the Genius rides better with the 29in wheels and a pair of tough and aggressive 2.4-2.6in wide tyres - that's where I found I could get the most out of it. Hope that helps Guy! ST Wil.
hi great video, just wondering how you remove the cable lockout for the fork and when it is removed if it operates smoothly as i want to do the same on my genius. and can u revert the compression dial on the fork back to regular one after removing the cable lockout thanks heaps
Hey there Des - thanks for watching and for the question! With the fork lockout cable removed, the rear shock cable works fine but it isn't quite as snappy. Because you don't have the extra spring tension of the fork lockout helping to return the cables, the rear shock lockout becomes slightly slower in action. But if you make sure the cable is running smooth (particularly the noodle section right near the rear shock), then it'll work fine. And yes - you can change the top cap on the Fox 36 fork back to a crown-adjust version. That's a separate part that you'll need to get through Fox. ST Wil.
Good question @Live Aeons! The Ransom has 20mm more travel at both ends, along with a slacker head angle, a shorter fork offset (44mm vs 51mm), and a bigger rear shock. Along with more powerful brakes, burlier tyres and a wider handlebar, it's an absolute monster on the descents. It can still climb, but it's not as quick as the Genius, and it does feel quite big while riding on everyday trails. In comparison, the Genius is like a trail bike when it comes to pedalling, climbing and weaving through twisty singletrack. It's lighter and sprightlier, and while it isn't as sure-footed when it comes to flat-out descending down steep trails, it does cope very well in rough and technical terrain. To put it simply; the Ransom is an Enduro bike, whereas the Genius is an All Mountain bike. As to which is better, it really comes down to the terrain you're riding and what you want to get out of the bike. In my review of the Ransom, I made a few comparative notes between the two bikes, which you can check out here if you get the chance; singletrackworld.com/2018/11/longterm-review-2019-scott-ransom-900-tuned/ Hope that helps! ST Wil.
@@singletrack , well, I'm pretty much settled 90% on buying a Ransom 920, for me I think it will be a great all rounder, since I do a fair ammount of climbing, but really appreciate a rig that can take a serious ebating on the way down, and currently I want a bit more comfort than my Mondraker Foxy gives me. The only thing I'm a bit worried about is that the seat tube will be a bit high on the L sized bike, but that's what I'm going with since it has the reach I desire. I'm 176,5cm. The other thing that bugs me about the 920 build is the Fox 36. I currently own a 34 and consider it harsh, and would love a Lyrik on my next bike, but since it will come with a 36 Performance I might add a Luftkappe upgrade to make it more sensitive. I have already seen you review on the Ransom, and really appreciate on giving feedback concerning the deep 35% sag for the rear and 28% sag up front. I will try emulating those as a base setting and see how it works from there. I'm really curious if the Ransom felt ok in terms of BB height with the 35% sag, more from a confidence standpoint and "in the bike" feeling.
@@LiveAeons Funnily enough, the Ransom 920 is exactly the model I would be going for if I was out to buy a Ransom. It's great value on paper! Let me know how you go with the seat tube length. I have fairly stubby legs for my height, so my saddle height is around 70cm, and the Medium Ransom fit me fine in that regard. I wouldn't be able to fit a Large though. I'd recommend riding the 36 to begin with before considering any upgrades. It's a terrific fork (particularly with the GRIP damper that comes in the fork on the Ransom 920), and it is much plusher and more confidence-inspiring than the 34. The latest EVOL air spring gives it a very smooth feel, though I did find it took a few rides for everything to bed in. Regarding BB height - I had no problems with running 35% sag on the Ransom, though that is largely because of the TwinLoc system. By using the middle 'Traction Control' position for pedalling along flat or uphill terrain, the BB height lifts considerably and gives a load of clearance. At the same time, I could get a pretty deep and in-the-bike feeling by flicking the suspension into Descend mode. It still doesn't feel super-low like an equivalent Evil does though. ST Wil.
@Fluterra - It is much heavier than a Specialized Epic, but then you're comparing a 150mm travel trail/enduro bike with a 100mm travel XC race bike. A much more accurate comparison for the Genius would be the Stumpjumper, which is a 150/140mm travel trail bike. ST Wil.
Singletrack Magazine I also have a 150mm Specialized and don’t see a difference, even on downhill runs. Maybe if you do big drops will the extra travel be noticeable. I’d rather have the lighter bike, which will affect 100% of the ride.
Yea but the weight and what you plan to do with it a trail bike is a aggressive bike xc bikes are made lighter to be easier to to ride. But 12kg on a trail bike is impressive for a fs bike my none fs bike weighs 16kg for a xc aluminium frame so don’t judge but that’s proba the lightest you can go unless you make ceramic shocks which are so lighter but the issue of it breaking is another issue you can have all this titanium screews and no ball bearings for less weighted
I love my 2018 Genius 940. TwinLoc is great but I just disconnect the fork lockout to see how the climbing is without it. Thanks for the review!
Our pleasure mate, and glad to hear you're loving your bike!
[ST Wil]
nice bike. my mate has bought one and i tried it on trails. only problem i see is that twinloc system could be a issue for maintance
Check out the full review of the Scott Genius 900 Tuned right here:
Part 1: singletrackworld.com/2018/05/longterm-review-part-one-2018-scott-genius-900-tuned/
Part 2: singletrackworld.com/2018/07/long-term-review-did-wil-ruin-the-scott-genius-900-tuned-test-bike-with-these-3-changes/
Great review!👍
Which size did you ride and how tall you are?
The best bike of all time.
how was the slow speed handling and on tight singletrack?
Awesome review. Thanks mate!
Thank you very much - glad you liked it!
ST Wil.
Please review new vision cannondale Jekyll and trigger models ?
Can you run 27.5 wheels on it that aren’t plus
Ed lamb yes u can ride tires from 2.5 to 2.8
Please review the Moustache Race 9 👍
Why would you put a DHR up front and a High Roller in the rear?! It should be the other way around.
Did you actually try the 27.5+ rear with 29er front? I think my next bike may well have this but would like to know your views.
Hey there Guy!
I certainly did - I tried the 29in wheel up front, with a 27.5+ wheel out back, and in both the High and Low geometry positions.
The setup works pretty well - you get a little more rollover on the front wheel, and the steering is a touch more neutral. The big 27.5+ rear tyre gives you loads of traction and comfort too. In the Low geometry position, the head angle gets even slacker - around 64.5 with the 29/27.5+ wheel setup.
That said, I found I still ended up with the downsides of the plus tyres. The rear tyre is quite squidgy and vague when being hammered into corners, and you can also feel the additional weight and rolling resistance on any section of trail that isn't downhill.
Personally, I think the benefits of plus tyres are more advantageous on a shorter travel bike, or ideally, on a hardtail. On a 150mm travel full suspension bike like this, which is already quite plush and comfortable to ride, I didn't find the benefits to significant enough to warrant the plus tyres. I reckon the Genius rides better with the 29in wheels and a pair of tough and aggressive 2.4-2.6in wide tyres - that's where I found I could get the most out of it.
Hope that helps Guy!
ST Wil.
Singletrack Magazine Thanks - am considering a Geometron in hybrid setup so wouldn't be a plus rear tyre - maybe that works better.
hi great video, just wondering how you remove the cable lockout for the fork and when it is removed if it operates smoothly as i want to do the same on my genius. and can u revert the compression dial on the fork back to regular one after removing the cable lockout thanks heaps
Hey there Des - thanks for watching and for the question!
With the fork lockout cable removed, the rear shock cable works fine but it isn't quite as snappy. Because you don't have the extra spring tension of the fork lockout helping to return the cables, the rear shock lockout becomes slightly slower in action. But if you make sure the cable is running smooth (particularly the noodle section right near the rear shock), then it'll work fine.
And yes - you can change the top cap on the Fox 36 fork back to a crown-adjust version. That's a separate part that you'll need to get through Fox.
ST Wil.
Thank you
What about the motor, battery, noise?
It’s not an e-bike
how does it compare to the Ransom?
Good question @Live Aeons!
The Ransom has 20mm more travel at both ends, along with a slacker head angle, a shorter fork offset (44mm vs 51mm), and a bigger rear shock. Along with more powerful brakes, burlier tyres and a wider handlebar, it's an absolute monster on the descents. It can still climb, but it's not as quick as the Genius, and it does feel quite big while riding on everyday trails.
In comparison, the Genius is like a trail bike when it comes to pedalling, climbing and weaving through twisty singletrack. It's lighter and sprightlier, and while it isn't as sure-footed when it comes to flat-out descending down steep trails, it does cope very well in rough and technical terrain.
To put it simply; the Ransom is an Enduro bike, whereas the Genius is an All Mountain bike. As to which is better, it really comes down to the terrain you're riding and what you want to get out of the bike.
In my review of the Ransom, I made a few comparative notes between the two bikes, which you can check out here if you get the chance; singletrackworld.com/2018/11/longterm-review-2019-scott-ransom-900-tuned/
Hope that helps!
ST Wil.
@@singletrack , really appreciate the insight and help!
@@LiveAeons - My pleasure mate, and just shout if you've got any more questions!
ST Wil.
@@singletrack , well, I'm pretty much settled 90% on buying a Ransom 920, for me I think it will be a great all rounder, since I do a fair ammount of climbing, but really appreciate a rig that can take a serious ebating on the way down, and currently I want a bit more comfort than my Mondraker Foxy gives me.
The only thing I'm a bit worried about is that the seat tube will be a bit high on the L sized bike, but that's what I'm going with since it has the reach I desire. I'm 176,5cm.
The other thing that bugs me about the 920 build is the Fox 36. I currently own a 34 and consider it harsh, and would love a Lyrik on my next bike, but since it will come with a 36 Performance I might add a Luftkappe upgrade to make it more sensitive.
I have already seen you review on the Ransom, and really appreciate on giving feedback concerning the deep 35% sag for the rear and 28% sag up front. I will try emulating those as a base setting and see how it works from there.
I'm really curious if the Ransom felt ok in terms of BB height with the 35% sag, more from a confidence standpoint and "in the bike" feeling.
@@LiveAeons Funnily enough, the Ransom 920 is exactly the model I would be going for if I was out to buy a Ransom. It's great value on paper!
Let me know how you go with the seat tube length. I have fairly stubby legs for my height, so my saddle height is around 70cm, and the Medium Ransom fit me fine in that regard. I wouldn't be able to fit a Large though.
I'd recommend riding the 36 to begin with before considering any upgrades. It's a terrific fork (particularly with the GRIP damper that comes in the fork on the Ransom 920), and it is much plusher and more confidence-inspiring than the 34. The latest EVOL air spring gives it a very smooth feel, though I did find it took a few rides for everything to bed in.
Regarding BB height - I had no problems with running 35% sag on the Ransom, though that is largely because of the TwinLoc system. By using the middle 'Traction Control' position for pedalling along flat or uphill terrain, the BB height lifts considerably and gives a load of clearance. At the same time, I could get a pretty deep and in-the-bike feeling by flicking the suspension into Descend mode. It still doesn't feel super-low like an equivalent Evil does though.
ST Wil.
impresiv viev !
Good Video but please for god's freaking sake BMW stop complicating things up...! put a bit of japanese simplicity in your cars...!
Yikes, much heavier than a Specialized Epic. And what’s with the bushings vs bearings?! No thanks.
@Fluterra - It is much heavier than a Specialized Epic, but then you're comparing a 150mm travel trail/enduro bike with a 100mm travel XC race bike.
A much more accurate comparison for the Genius would be the Stumpjumper, which is a 150/140mm travel trail bike.
ST Wil.
Singletrack Magazine I also have a 150mm Specialized and don’t see a difference, even on downhill runs. Maybe if you do big drops will the extra travel be noticeable. I’d rather have the lighter bike, which will affect 100% of the ride.
Yea but the weight and what you plan to do with it a trail bike is a aggressive bike xc bikes are made lighter to be easier to to ride. But 12kg on a trail bike is impressive for a fs bike my none fs bike weighs 16kg for a xc aluminium frame so don’t judge but that’s proba the lightest you can go unless you make ceramic shocks which are so lighter but the issue of it breaking is another issue you can have all this titanium screews and no ball bearings for less weighted