28:54 "A version of Thanos that just didn't get the Infinity stones but was...captured...by the Canadian government?" Well that's the hilarious capstone my year needed.
I mean we all know Canada is the scariest place in the Marvel Universe. With their Geese, Wolverines, sasquaches, and Wendigo everywhere. It's not a suprise they managed to take him out
I woulds been far happier if they just... didn't have story arcs in this show. Just purely episodic. Maybe we get the occasional follow up to a previous story, but we really don't need a season finale story arc thing. That having been said, I'd 100% watch an exiles show
Yeah, like, an over arching storyline would have been cool if it spans seasons and is the finale of the series itself. But making it the finale of each season just makes it cheap.
My fiance and I were talking about that same thing. We're huge Love Death and Robots fans and she pitched basically that for What If, just a series of anthology stories in different art styles. Basically what they did for Star Wars Visions.
The Watcher last episode: “I shouldn’t interfere! I can’t! But maybe just this once… I need to do something just this one time” The Watcher this episode: “so anyway I started blasting”
Most likely because iron heart was supposed to come out mid 2024 but was delayed so they expected audiences to have seen and understood "the hood" as a character and threat before seeing them appear in what if.
Yeah, the delay of Iron Heart kinda ruined this a bit, well, bot this and Riri vs Mysterio, I feel those are going to be better on rewatches after Iron Heart is out and we get the deal with Riri and The Hood
Yeah I have no idea why we are getting so many what if versions before we get the characters in the main MCU. I get Ironheart and The Hood. But we’re getting Blade Moon Knight before normal blade. We saw a What If Ghost Rider before the actual Ghost Rider (unless you count Agents of Shield as official canon which most don’t anymore). Then it seems we are getting some kind of Iron Man that became Doom before the actual Doctor Doom. Like please stop with this trend.
As much as I enjoyed the Captain Carter Winter Soldier episode, she did not need to be the focal point of 1 season's worth of episodes throughout the supposed anthology series
Honestly, I think a really cool thing they could do with Storm Thor is have her come from a world where the X-Men characters are combined with Asgardian characters. Like, Emma Frost Loki and Odin Professor X.
Oooh imagine Dark Elf, Nightcrawler! Goddess of Death and Queen of Limbo and Hel, Magik! Agent of the Tenth realm - Heven, Archangel. And maybe add another comic accurate Valkyrie Dani Moonstar where she became one of them after I think rescuing and bonding with one of their pegasus, Brightwing. Also maybe Surtur Phoenix Jean Grey?
@tlc236 i just lol'd and woke my wife reading your comment. The simplest answer is usual the right one huh? It was great after reading all of the ideas everybody threw out 😂.😊
I could see that Storm come from a universe where like in X-men 97 she's shot and loses her mutant powers. But while on her self exile she hears word of Mjolnir. The hammer deems her worthy so she gains the powers of Thor.
I can’t help but feel that the finale would have been a much bigger and more interesting episode had the entire show not been so intent on forcing a connected story between everything the entire time. Like I can only imagine an episode 7 that focuses on characters from previous episodes figuring out what’s happened at what needs to happen, before an episode 8 that sees the first proper multiversal team up of the show.
Was the best episode this season imo., followed by Howard & Darcy. Shang chi bring underutilized lowkey starting to feel like a political choice. Also now I’m shipping him and Kate bishop
I never felt like What If needed the team up at the end of each season- but if they are doing it don’t make three quarters of the season pointless and force in a story for 2 episodes. Like almost all of this seasons stories had no impact on the finale
Every show just needs the Star Wars the clone wars format. Stand alone arcs and long form arcs. Like the problem is that there isn’t 3 or 4 multi episode isolated arcs going on.
I disagree fundamentally that the standalone episodes were pointless. They just didn't advance the story of the finale, which didn't need that much advancement. The point of the episodes were to be fun looks at interesting alternate universes and scenarios. I think the fact that there are standalone episodes is part of what makes the show fun. I think it's to the shows benefit that it doesn't constantly drive towards an obvious end point. Most of these marvel shows are basically just extended movies and what if is an actual show. Plus, the season basically was setting up the finale from the Iron Heart episode. It was just very small.
@@velemamba260 The problem is that nearly every single premise in this show was incredibly lame and uninteresting. Nearly all of them were some variation of “what if this character was somewhere/someone else”. The ONLY one to actually explore an interesting alternate path was the one where Ultron won. And don’t even get me started on the obsession with Captain Carter, such an odd character to have an obsession with.
I mean, the entire first season built up the Guardians of the Multiverse, and that was the only season to do that, season 2 was mostly stand alone with only 3 episodes having the same character, and the finale had Strange Supreme finishing his story arc from the first season. Season 3 is completely stand alone till the last 2 episodes, so you literally can’t say it’s the Captain Carter show when the entire show is mostly stand alone for 2 seasons
@@velemamba260 I agree that the standalone episodes weren't pointless because they didn't affect much the two final ones. They were pointless because, like the finaly, they are written by three adolescent boys mushing their toys together without thinking about the story they are telling, the philosophies or questions they'd want the audience to ask themselves or even just the general coherence of their interconnected work over three season. Cause that would get into the very important parts : watching a hero you like in a different cosplay so you can buy the skin on Marvel Rivals next month.
I agree, What If? and The Exiles are both compelling shows that I would enjoy, but it feels like it does them both a disservice by having one be the shadow-pilot for the other, since it means they each don’t get full room to grow, and the audiences who only want one or the other are unhappy.
I feel like the team from Deadpool could become a version of the Exiles, and a way to keep Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman in the MCU without disrupting it too much.
Showtune Ultron sounds really fun like imagine a super showy happy go lucky intro to the robot dancing around and then the next scene is a monologue about how he wants to do so much more than dance. You could have it parallel cap in the first movie, you could have a malicious Obedia Staine controlling Ultron for profit in a Pinocchio esque homage. Like I dont have the skill to write it but that could be a killer episode
It was fun if you turn your brain off. Side note: I could NOT turn my brain off to those ridiculously stupid physics in the “What if the Emergence destroyed Earth” episode.
I mean, it's a destroyed earth with a bunch of super powered people fighting an army of AI powered holograms, there's a lot of science that doesn't work. What kind of atmosphere field does the Asgardian ship produce, is there some kind of magic that keeps some breathable air? I mean, it's a science-fantasy show, it's just dumb fun.
@@iraford5788 The Earth wouldn't have sharply defined shards at a minimum. There is a reason stuff of sufficient size in space become round. And that is even if the Earth was solid rock. Pure gravity would crumple it up. But most of the Earth is semifluid at least.
I actually love the concept of Thanos Weapon X. Like that could be if the Celestials decide to intervene on Thanos getting the stones. They deem him too much a threat to the universe to just imprison, but see some usefulness in keeping him alive, so they brainwash and enhance him to do their bidding or something like that.
Yeah that would be a ton of fun. Then the What If show could focus on exploring different universes, while Exiles would have the overarching story and characters from What If could pop into there too.
I hope the 1872 episode leads to a whole Marvel Western series. Then we can see Rawhide Kid, Two Gun Kid, the original Ghost Rider, etc. I also had an idea for a western Guardians of the Galaxy consisting of Rocket as a armadillo and Groot as a cactus.
What If is not the only MCU show to get a third season, it's the only Marvel Studios show to do so. Daredevil and Jessica Jones both got at least 3 seasons, and they're both canon again.
Daredevil and Jessica Jones weren't MCU shows... initially they didn't fall under that banner...At the time Agents of Shield and definitely the Inhumans were more MCU than Daredevil.....The rights to Daredevil were Sony I believe and anyways the Netflix shows were not the MCU just like Madame Webb isn't an MCU movie.
@@WhiteRaven696 Yes because Disney bought put a bunch of properties and were able to pit them under a banner but NO Daredevil was NOT part of the MCU initially...JUST LIKE the X-Men and countless OTHER Marvel characters..
@WhiteRaven696 AFTER THE FACT....hope THAT helps...BTW LOVE how ya edited your original message BWA HA HA HA....They also ORIGINALLY said it was its own thing BECAUSE they were owned ....BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE!!! LMGDFAO....Agents of Shield.... ACTUALLY MORE a part of the MCU doofus .... imagine being this dumb AND stubborn LMAO....If it WERE a part of the MCU it would have been on ABC AT THAT TIME...Lemme help your dense brain figure this out...lets say Sony made a kickass Venom TV show....theyd release it through some service like Peacock...OR NETFLIX....then if Disney BOUGHT IT....itd BECOME part of the MCU AT THAT POINT and Feige would say yes its Cannon.... EVERYTHING IS CANNON BECAUSE OF THE MULTIVERSE lol....and lol....they were ALREADY going to do a big timeline reset with Kang ANYWAYS BUT Jonathan Majors got in some trouble so now they're gonna use Doom...to timeline reset probably...just like in the comics
They gave Thor Storm the Gamora treatment, but in the final season of the show. Now all we can do is imagine what her origin and her universe could have been....... Mutants were Gods? Mutants vs Asgard? Injustice-esque Avengers with X-Men as the good guys?
The characters they showed in the last episode when they were being erased from all reality and at the very end of the episode were way more interesting than anything in the shows
I’ve said since the finale of season 1 that this show was trying to emulate The Exiles even down to the Watcher using a crystal wall to view multiverses in lieu of the crystal palace in The Exiles.
I don’t want to assume, but it seems like you like the ideas of the show more than the show’s presentation itself. If all it has are ideas that we aren’t sure will even go anywhere, then the ideas aren’t exactly worth a whole lot, if anything at all.
30:06 That could be a reference to the actual secret invasion event where there were a ton of super skrulls, all with different mixes of powers. So it could be a "What-If Cap was replaced by a super skrull" and by the end the Skrull decides to embody what it means to be Cap and take over as Earth's greatest hero
27:25 What I'd do is make the Exiles survivors of the prior mutliverse. Either through sheer luck, or power in the case of characters like Kahori, they survived the multiversal destruction at the end of Secret Wars. But their universes did not. Now they wander the new multiverse as a team of Exiles, heroes with no home to return to. Maybe they can't even control where they end up, they kinda Quantum Leap from universe to universe.
30:08 I think it’s just supposed to be Super Skrull with Cap’s body and a Red Hulk arm. It’s not on fire so not sure why you assumed Human Torch above Red Hulk who you’ve already mentioned in the video lol
I really liked episode 6. Kate Bishop is one of my all-time favorite comic characters, so adding her to anything is an automatic boost to my enthusiasm, plus Shang Chi was one of my favorite movies from phase 4, so I was happy to see more of him too. And it reminded me that I guess I am a sucker for putting superheroes in an Old West setting. And Sonny Birch is a perfect villain for an Old West story, because even though Ant-Man and the Wasp was a pretty forgettable movie, Walton Goggins is the perfect actor for an Old West story. My only complaint about the episode is that the twist with Shang Chi's sister didn't make much sense, so I think they could have made a more effective conclusion to the episode if they'd taken a couple seconds to better explain her motivations and why she turned.
In a strange way, this final season has given us the 'Sequels' (and 'Reboots') that we will probably never see in the MCU proper (or really delayed): After how many years now, we finally see Shang Chi in action again. We get to see at least one of the Eternals, this time fighting for the people he has been living amongst for thousands of years instead of just 'Kingo, Out!"-ing. Finally, we get a 'Reboot' of the old 'Howard The Duck' movie, surprisingly carrying through with the joke that was made about Howard and ......forget her name.....in the original movie 😅
This is why I feel like using What if as a backdrop to setting up the exiles was a waste. Coz now it’s cancelled. When are we going to get more what if stories coz live action will have it’s limits
I like that this is the most positive What If content I've seen online... Unfortunately, because, you don't see many people talk about ANY POSITIVE AMthings about it, like, as a collective, and entire fanbase just said "no", to everything, no matter what.
Yeah I'm tired of negativity, I only follow Nando and A Bit of Everything for MCU things because everyone else seems hell bent on just shitting on anything Marvel related
Usually, I'd be on your side "what if...?" Fell off a cliff after Season 1. How do we go from "What if strange lost his heart?" To the goofy Season 2 finale or "What if Howard got hitched?"
@@spritvio639 there's literally an episode with the same tone in S1, this is literally the sequel to Party Thor Also it was one of the best episodes this season according to many people including Nando
Haley Stanfeld also felt like she was revisiting True Grit, and as an Asian American- trying to reflect the Chinese experience was at least an *attempt*
My theory on why Captain Carter is getting so much hate right now. The issue is too much time is spent using the What if concept to set up a connected story and they just happened to choose Captain Carter as a key character so she will get a lot of hate if people feel that the concept is being wasted. Strange Supreme is also getting it coz he had a great 1st appearance then we also got over exposed to him same as Peggy. There’s definitely like an incel like part of the community that’s too focused on Peggy and ignoring Strange Supreme and The Winter soldier. In fact Marvel is currently just too obsessed with super soldiers and Captain America as a whole. We are in the multiverse era and we are still too focused on super soldiers. It just now makes the multiverse small. Whereas something like what if is such an easy way to show us how expansive the multiverse actually is. Uatu being the central character across the series is fine as he offers a grounding point for us as the viewer. But this should’ve been mostly an anthology series with way more episodes. I don’t even think there’s a need for Uatu to interfere in the multiverse though. Why force an outcome if that outcome will eventually come to fruition in an infinite multiverse. They needed to just give us like maybe 15 episodes per season of pure anthology. Even how they used this last season to bring in the new characters is something that felt sorely missed in season 2. These animated shows could be a great way to keep us caring about characters in between the live action stuff. But the writing needs to be rock solid and the reality is that they failed this series by not fully leaning in to the concept and even a little fan service. It’s shocking to me how they managed to take the fun out of something that should be a slam dunk.
Yeap also she is only worked in season 1 because she was one of the episodes and all of them brought together by Uatu for beat Ultron supreme. After that team ups feels so forced when ur theme all about anthologies.We coming here for ideas and plot.And this season ideas absolute flat.Like people who wrote Doctor Strange episode left to company?Why we cant have bleak stories anymore?Its more pain to see edge of multiverse ideas looks far more interesting than this show.🤦
Personally, the whole premise is What if..? yet every episode is the same characters, generally. Given the idea of infinity they stayed very particular
So Infinity Ultron has all the infinity stones and is SO enlightened and wanted to redeem himself why didn’t he just bring everyone back? Seems like the stones still work… 👀
Could be that he sees the isolation as his penance for his actions. He might also see it as bringing everyone back is just creating new beings since he still did what he did and what came before is gone
The finale of What If? season 3 was f*ckin incredible. It was everything that every second of Dragonball Z I’ve ever seen wanted to be, condensed into one episode. It. Was. Amazing. And Storm is just too good.
I really enjoyed this show and the finale. I never expected to care so much about Uatu, but he ended up feeling really interesting and endearing. I enjoy the combination of anthology style episodes with these big finales, it's a fun mix. And the team this time around was just super fun and had good chemistry. I too hope that we get more What if, but if we don't, I think this is a great place to end it.
What if? As a concept is so interesting that using it to set up The Exiles is just a complete waste of the concept. This just felt like the disappointment of Secret Wars just being a series when it could’ve been its own Phase.
To be fair, that is more or less the comics. The Exiles as a concept doesn't really work without the decades of What If comics laying the groundwork for alternative Marvel universes.
So a few things i noticed. I think the Howard the Duck as Scarlet witch...is meant to be a joke on "Magica De Spell". Just a weird thing i kinda thought about. A lot of the time, Howard gets pullled as a "Disney" joke when used, so i think that's this. I kinda hope this isn't the end. This is the one show i really saw the hate as needlless towards something really doing some interesting stuff. Between this and the Spiderman hate currentlly, i don't super get the fans. They feel against anything that has a fun twist. I recently had a talk where we think it's people this weird thing where people aren't getting the movies. They call the MCU films "Comic book movies" when they aren't, they are more EVENT comic movies. These are the kinds of stories that last months, have huge plots, crossovers. What if, and even some of the movies, sometimes feel like comic book stories. Smaller, self contained. Focusing on characters rather than the grand scope of something, and those are the ones people seem to hate the most.
Actually there was already a multiversal Exiles comic in the 90s before all that stuff with Blink. It was a crossover comic between the Marvel Universe and the Ultraverse. Juggernaut was on the team at some point. But it never gets brought up again due to rights issues with Malibu Comics and the Ultraverse.
I enjoyed storm the most I like what strong calls on the powers and just the sheer just greatness when she calls on power and give me chills up my spine
Your "Exiles" idea is absolutely GENIUS!! I have a similar idea for the goofy episodes we've seen. Anybody remember the "What The--?!" parody comics? Well, why not just take all off the goofy episodes & shovd them into a "What The--?!" Show??
this could be a stretch, but i think i figured out the jubilee silver surfer reference. it's a shoutout to dazzler. she had a really obscure mini series in the 80s (i think) where she did in fact herald for galactus and wield the power cosmic. and roller-skates. i don't remember it making any sense at all, but back in the day they were really trying to make dazzler a thing. enter jim lee and the very 90s x men and jubilee is introduced (with effectively the same powers) and dazzler is simply not a thing anymore. if this is in fact what they were going for, i'm here for it.
Regarding Loki: When Byrdie crashes the ship trying to lose the Watchers "inbetween" the multiverse the colour scheme as she goes through shifts into bright green visual. I took that as a post-God of Stories Loki reference. What would be in-between the multiverse? The vines of Yggdrasil! Sure, could be a coincidence in an already reference-stuffed episode, but I like the headcanon of it. :)
I’m glad you liked it. I thought it was crrrrrap. How did Peggy get the Time Chair? What happened to Party Thor? How does Natasha Lyonne shoot lasers out of her eyes? Why end episodes on a cliffhanger when you knew this was the end?
I don't like that the watcher is always interfering, in an infinite multiverse the things he wants to happen will happen somewhere so he could just go there instead of disrupting the balance of those universes
At this point, he's not a "watcher" anymore. He's an active participant. I remember Jeffrey Wright describing his role like the cameraman of the NYC pizza rat video. And it ended up not like that.
Sure.. but that still does not fix the point that a universe exist where the bad thing happens. The point is that his interference quite literally erases a bad timeline without replacing it.
Yeah I think we needed to have a way longer narrative runway where the Watcher just gets beat down watching endless universes where bad things happened. Where we slowly see his neutral stoicism fall away as the weight of what he sees gets to him. And we need to see it, not be told Uatu has seen this happen a trillion times. Where our heroes were brave and selfless and did their best, but because these are What If stories the bad things happened regardless. That no matter how hard they tried or how competently they fought some key macguffin or event would always go wrong, sometimes impossibly so (like Final Destination or something) because in an infinite realm of possibilities superheroes will have a day where literally everything went wrong. And THEN have his break where he basically starts small and then goes bigger and bigger with it.
They needed to have the Ironheart episode go wrong once. Then have the episode concept repeat the next week, the watcher gaining hope when a new choice is made, just for something else completely different to go wrong. Then have him interfere the third time. Now for this to work the writing would have to be perfect so it didn’t get repetitive, but it would really show the audience how boring, depressing and painful watching these characters die again and again can be. It should’ve also been with a different character, one who the audience would have an attachment to, such as Tchalla, Wanda or even Spider-Man.
I think in the Iron Heart episode, it’s pretty clear that things would have ended badly in every other multiverse, no matter how many there are. It was actually his involvement that changed the outcome for that universe. That’s why the Sovereign, right? was upset-he’s supposed to just watch and let nature take its course. As another commenter pointed out, the show doesn’t really show the negative outcomes all that much, but it did with the origin story of Supreme Strange. He tried to save his wife, but she always ended up dying because it was an absolute point. I guess The Watcher has the power to change those absolute points by interfering with how things are supposed to go. In Season 1, he was allowed to bring in the Guardians of the Multiverse because his interference let Ultron travel between multiverses. I think the other Watchers were okay with him solving a problem that he caused himself. This is more of a theory than a solid conclusion, though.
I quite enjoyed the western episode, especially that early fight scene where Shang-Chi and Kate Bishop show off - I liked her gunslinging (especially grabbing guns flung from defeated enemies) and his kung-fu really worked great. Oh, it does seem more and more like Ironheart was expected to be out before this aired, given the focus on Riri and The Hood in two separate episodes. The weakest part of the episode for me was the Watcher stuff, but I guess it needed to be there to set up the two-part finale, which...meh, it was fine but a bit disappointing. I agree that What If...? has seemed like it wants to be 2 shows: the anthology it is, and a more serial series about "The Exiles" (I liked the team, though I feel like they could've used a fifth, and I'm not counting Uatu, who's more Zordon, nor Ultron, who just worked for that moment) - I definitely would've liked to see both, as separate things. This series finale felt appropriate for the end of the show, but also a season early, like they needed a bit more Uatu intervention to justify it. While this show was rather up-and-down over the years, I will miss it a bit, wish it had continued with more of the anthology focus to let them do weird things. Or give us that Exiles show. Or both.
What if the Eternals were the Avengers is actually kind of sick. Because they already felt like Marvels version of the Justice League in their own movie, and I would love to see an Elseworlds with more of that. For me, that was my favorite part of Eternals.
Seeing all the eXiles panels has me reminiscing of the good times reading the monthly comics. A fantastic comic book series and my favorite X-Men title
I'm pretty sure that Gamora was meant to be a God Butcher instead of a bride since she's wearing clothes like Gorr and was holding a Necro Sword in her right hand
Having Storm with Mjolnir did feel out of left field, despite her being worthy and shown to lift it in the comics, and it would've been better if we got an episode that showed Storm, with her mutant gene active, having found the hammer at the site before Thor, picking up the hammer and being pronounced worthy, and then having some shenanigans occur between the X-Men and The Brotherhood, for instance.
It would have been more connective if the exiles always formed from heroes in the earlier episodes. Maybe with captain carter as the constant rather than bringing in random characters
I really liked this season. It feels like they got better with each season as they felt more free to explore weird ideas rather than just trying to fit into the rest of the MCU. It's probably my second favorite MCU TV season after WandaVision, with Loki season 1 and Agatha All Along being my other entrants in the top tier of MCU TV seasons. I kind of hope they retract their decision to end the series and go for a season 4 that goes even weirder and bigger, although if this is indeed the end I think it was a fitting one.
I dont like the psuedo anthology they have with the show. Either have all the episodes connect or dont have them connect at all. It would be better if they didnt connect at all but were longer episods.
My theory for Storm Thor is that she loses her powers like in x-men 97 but instead of finding Forge, she finds Thor. He dies to protect her and then Mjollnir connects with Storm restoring her power and making her the goddess of storms.
I'm not entirely sold if THIS is the version of Exiles that will be the team. Mainly how OP it seems to collectively be, the characters were fine enough as characters.This is more the Ultimates (no not THAT Ultimates) with Blue Marvel, Captain Marvel, etc. Even as a team designed around permadeath I would still miss not having Blink on an Exiles team at least.
There were so many questions people had about the MCU that they could have put into these stories. One of the biggest questions I thought they could have attempted to answer was What If...Thanos had doubled resources instead of halving the population. I think it could have been a good story generator. Or what about What If...Captain America didn't return the stones to the right timelines. But instead they went with questions no-one really asked for. Some were good stories on their own, but it could have been a chance for Marvel to answer some fan questions.
I just don't like what if as a concept, people hate that it has continuous stories but to me it's the aspect of the show I liked, I'd prefer a full on TV show based on a what if concept than random short stories I couldn't care less about
I liked it and I liked the story arcs. I just wish the show was longer to explore more universes before diving into the team up stuff. But overall I consider this show a success overall. It was a lot of fun.
I don't know if they are going to do this, and I don't know if they should call it What If season 4 or make it it's own thing, but if Secret Wars is anything like the 2015 version, they should absolutely do a series about Battleworld. For newer fans who don't know, most, if not all of what Marvel was publishing back in 2015, while Secret Wars was happening were "War Zones", different stories looking at different areas within Battleworld, all sorts of varied stories, if the battleworld we get in Secret Wars is anything like that... even if they make it 3 hours long it's not gonna do it justice, of course it's not, the core Secret Wars series barely brushed on any of that, it was left to the War Zones books to flesh out battleworld, the MCU version needs something similar and What If's style is probably the best bet, particularly since their tendency to switch from anthology to a finale drawing threads togeather format that the show tends to do would actually work there, if we assume that Secret Wars will end with the Avengers assembling a massive alliance of varients to do battle with Doom, the show's finale could be a lower decks episode for that fight while we focus on the main characters.
28:54 "A version of Thanos that just didn't get the Infinity stones but was...captured...by the Canadian government?" Well that's the hilarious capstone my year needed.
What if Thanos's helicopter crashed in the Yukon?
I mean we all know Canada is the scariest place in the Marvel Universe. With their Geese, Wolverines, sasquaches, and Wendigo everywhere. It's not a suprise they managed to take him out
I woulds been far happier if they just... didn't have story arcs in this show. Just purely episodic. Maybe we get the occasional follow up to a previous story, but we really don't need a season finale story arc thing. That having been said, I'd 100% watch an exiles show
Yeah, like, an over arching storyline would have been cool if it spans seasons and is the finale of the series itself. But making it the finale of each season just makes it cheap.
My fiance and I were talking about that same thing. We're huge Love Death and Robots fans and she pitched basically that for What If, just a series of anthology stories in different art styles. Basically what they did for Star Wars Visions.
Lol. Knowing Disney they’d ironically make the exiles a true anthology series with no connected plot line. 1 step forward, 1 back
We'll have another What If animation this year, Marvel Zombies. This tv show might only focus on one timeline, so we shall see what they cook with it.
That's what I've been saying all this time, bruh.
The Watcher last episode: “I shouldn’t interfere! I can’t! But maybe just this once… I need to do something just this one time”
The Watcher this episode: “so anyway I started blasting”
Perfect reference hahah
The watcher has one job. It's literally in his title and he's soo objectively bad at it that it's comical
@@Juicelee777ssjWell I think the whole point is that he realizes his job is stupid
My biggest question of Marvel 1872 was "why are we debuting The Hood in What If...?"?
Most likely because iron heart was supposed to come out mid 2024 but was delayed so they expected audiences to have seen and understood "the hood" as a character and threat before seeing them appear in what if.
ask what if...haha
It's because ironheart got delayed to 2025 and what if season 3 was supposed to come out after ironheart it's just a bunch of hard to explain stuff.
Yeah, the delay of Iron Heart kinda ruined this a bit, well, bot this and Riri vs Mysterio, I feel those are going to be better on rewatches after Iron Heart is out and we get the deal with Riri and The Hood
Yeah I have no idea why we are getting so many what if versions before we get the characters in the main MCU.
I get Ironheart and The Hood. But we’re getting Blade Moon Knight before normal blade. We saw a What If Ghost Rider before the actual Ghost Rider (unless you count Agents of Shield as official canon which most don’t anymore). Then it seems we are getting some kind of Iron Man that became Doom before the actual Doctor Doom. Like please stop with this trend.
As much as I enjoyed the Captain Carter Winter Soldier episode, she did not need to be the focal point of 1 season's worth of episodes throughout the supposed anthology series
It felt like the writers wanted to make a captain carter series but were told no and found a different way to still make the show they wanted
Why?
@@jordanvance1657 No, it felt like Marvel tried too hard to make Captain Carter a thing.
@@SYLABDULPOD Because Captain Carter is lame as hell just like most of this show lmao
@@gavo7911 Funny, no one complained when Spider-Girl debuted in "What If?"
Honestly, I think a really cool thing they could do with Storm Thor is have her come from a world where the X-Men characters are combined with Asgardian characters. Like, Emma Frost Loki and Odin Professor X.
Thor Storm should’ve had her own episode! WTH, Marvel? I can’t believe they actually teased better ideas they left off the table!
Yes I'd watch/ read the heck outta that
Oooh imagine Dark Elf, Nightcrawler! Goddess of Death and Queen of Limbo and Hel, Magik! Agent of the Tenth realm - Heven, Archangel. And maybe add another comic accurate Valkyrie Dani Moonstar where she became one of them after I think rescuing and bonding with one of their pegasus, Brightwing. Also maybe Surtur Phoenix Jean Grey?
The simplest explanation is just that Storm picked up Mjolnir and received "all the powers of Thor" because she was worthy, in her universe.
@tlc236 i just lol'd and woke my wife reading your comment. The simplest answer is usual the right one huh? It was great after reading all of the ideas everybody threw out 😂.😊
I could see that Storm come from a universe where like in X-men 97 she's shot and loses her mutant powers. But while on her self exile she hears word of Mjolnir. The hammer deems her worthy so she gains the powers of Thor.
I can’t help but feel that the finale would have been a much bigger and more interesting episode had the entire show not been so intent on forcing a connected story between everything the entire time. Like I can only imagine an episode 7 that focuses on characters from previous episodes figuring out what’s happened at what needs to happen, before an episode 8 that sees the first proper multiversal team up of the show.
So season 1
They did that in the first season ✔️
Jason Isaacs for Magneto! It would be great to have such a prominent Jewish character played by a Jewish actor
He’s definitely got the powerful voice for it too, I could see it!
And he can pull off long white hair,since he was Lucius Malfoy
I think I was 15 minutes in when I realized the "10 rings" was them showing up when the bell was rung 10 times. xD
Was the best episode this season imo., followed by Howard & Darcy. Shang chi bring underutilized lowkey starting to feel like a political choice. Also now I’m shipping him and Kate bishop
@@SuperRONDALE Well he clearly has good chemistry with archers it seems no matter the universe.
I never felt like What If needed the team up at the end of each season- but if they are doing it don’t make three quarters of the season pointless and force in a story for 2 episodes. Like almost all of this seasons stories had no impact on the finale
Every show just needs the Star Wars the clone wars format. Stand alone arcs and long form arcs. Like the problem is that there isn’t 3 or 4 multi episode isolated arcs going on.
I disagree fundamentally that the standalone episodes were pointless. They just didn't advance the story of the finale, which didn't need that much advancement. The point of the episodes were to be fun looks at interesting alternate universes and scenarios. I think the fact that there are standalone episodes is part of what makes the show fun. I think it's to the shows benefit that it doesn't constantly drive towards an obvious end point. Most of these marvel shows are basically just extended movies and what if is an actual show.
Plus, the season basically was setting up the finale from the Iron Heart episode. It was just very small.
@@velemamba260 The problem is that nearly every single premise in this show was incredibly lame and uninteresting. Nearly all of them were some variation of “what if this character was somewhere/someone else”. The ONLY one to actually explore an interesting alternate path was the one where Ultron won. And don’t even get me started on the obsession with Captain Carter, such an odd character to have an obsession with.
I mean, the entire first season built up the Guardians of the Multiverse, and that was the only season to do that, season 2 was mostly stand alone with only 3 episodes having the same character, and the finale had Strange Supreme finishing his story arc from the first season. Season 3 is completely stand alone till the last 2 episodes, so you literally can’t say it’s the Captain Carter show when the entire show is mostly stand alone for 2 seasons
@@velemamba260 I agree that the standalone episodes weren't pointless because they didn't affect much the two final ones. They were pointless because, like the finaly, they are written by three adolescent boys mushing their toys together without thinking about the story they are telling, the philosophies or questions they'd want the audience to ask themselves or even just the general coherence of their interconnected work over three season. Cause that would get into the very important parts : watching a hero you like in a different cosplay so you can buy the skin on Marvel Rivals next month.
I agree, What If? and The Exiles are both compelling shows that I would enjoy, but it feels like it does them both a disservice by having one be the shadow-pilot for the other, since it means they each don’t get full room to grow, and the audiences who only want one or the other are unhappy.
I feel like the team from Deadpool could become a version of the Exiles, and a way to keep Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman in the MCU without disrupting it too much.
Showtune Ultron sounds really fun like imagine a super showy happy go lucky intro to the robot dancing around and then the next scene is a monologue about how he wants to do so much more than dance. You could have it parallel cap in the first movie, you could have a malicious Obedia Staine controlling Ultron for profit in a Pinocchio esque homage. Like I dont have the skill to write it but that could be a killer episode
It was fun if you turn your brain off.
Side note: I could NOT turn my brain off to those ridiculously stupid physics in the “What if the Emergence destroyed Earth” episode.
Yea it wasnt bad per se, but it feels like not very much planning or thought went into it.
Agree, the fight scene in this season is great too but the story is poorly written
I mean, it's a destroyed earth with a bunch of super powered people fighting an army of AI powered holograms, there's a lot of science that doesn't work.
What kind of atmosphere field does the Asgardian ship produce, is there some kind of magic that keeps some breathable air? I mean, it's a science-fantasy show, it's just dumb fun.
What physics are you talking about specifically!?
@@iraford5788 The Earth wouldn't have sharply defined shards at a minimum. There is a reason stuff of sufficient size in space become round. And that is even if the Earth was solid rock. Pure gravity would crumple it up. But most of the Earth is semifluid at least.
Hailee’s future with Shang- Chi 😄🥲
Hailee’s future with Shameik 🧐😳🫣
I actually love the concept of Thanos Weapon X.
Like that could be if the Celestials decide to intervene on Thanos getting the stones. They deem him too much a threat to the universe to just imprison, but see some usefulness in keeping him alive, so they brainwash and enhance him to do their bidding or something like that.
I hope this isn't the last we see of Uatu in the MCU. Jeffrey Wright gave that character so much life.
you’re so right about having what if and a separate exiles show running at the same time, that sounds so fun
Yeah that would be a ton of fun. Then the What If show could focus on exploring different universes, while Exiles would have the overarching story and characters from What If could pop into there too.
I hope the 1872 episode leads to a whole Marvel Western series. Then we can see Rawhide Kid, Two Gun Kid, the original Ghost Rider, etc.
I also had an idea for a western Guardians of the Galaxy consisting of Rocket as a armadillo and Groot as a cactus.
What If is not the only MCU show to get a third season, it's the only Marvel Studios show to do so. Daredevil and Jessica Jones both got at least 3 seasons, and they're both canon again.
Daredevil and Jessica Jones weren't MCU shows... initially they didn't fall under that banner...At the time Agents of Shield and definitely the Inhumans were more MCU than Daredevil.....The rights to Daredevil were Sony I believe and anyways the Netflix shows were not the MCU just like Madame Webb isn't an MCU movie.
@ They were announced as canon in 2014 and reaffirmed as canon in 2024 so quite frankly, I don’t want to hear it.
@@WhiteRaven696 Yes because Disney bought put a bunch of properties and were able to pit them under a banner but NO Daredevil was NOT part of the MCU initially...JUST LIKE the X-Men and countless OTHER Marvel characters..
@ Daredevil was always part of the MCU because Marvel themselves said so. Hope this helps.
@WhiteRaven696 AFTER THE FACT....hope THAT helps...BTW LOVE how ya edited your original message BWA HA HA HA....They also ORIGINALLY said it was its own thing BECAUSE they were owned ....BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE!!! LMGDFAO....Agents of Shield.... ACTUALLY MORE a part of the MCU doofus .... imagine being this dumb AND stubborn LMAO....If it WERE a part of the MCU it would have been on ABC AT THAT TIME...Lemme help your dense brain figure this out...lets say Sony made a kickass Venom TV show....theyd release it through some service like Peacock...OR NETFLIX....then if Disney BOUGHT IT....itd BECOME part of the MCU AT THAT POINT and Feige would say yes its Cannon.... EVERYTHING IS CANNON BECAUSE OF THE MULTIVERSE lol....and lol....they were ALREADY going to do a big timeline reset with Kang ANYWAYS BUT Jonathan Majors got in some trouble so now they're gonna use Doom...to timeline reset probably...just like in the comics
I think the watchers were supposed to be the living tribunal when they started losing
They gave Thor Storm the Gamora treatment, but in the final season of the show. Now all we can do is imagine what her origin and her universe could have been....... Mutants were Gods? Mutants vs Asgard? Injustice-esque Avengers with X-Men as the good guys?
Birdie in What if…? Feels like comic Adam Warlock, powers wise
The characters they showed in the last episode when they were being erased from all reality and at the very end of the episode were way more interesting than anything in the shows
I’ve said since the finale of season 1 that this show was trying to emulate The Exiles even down to the Watcher using a crystal wall to view multiverses in lieu of the crystal palace in The Exiles.
I don’t want to assume, but it seems like you like the ideas of the show more than the show’s presentation itself. If all it has are ideas that we aren’t sure will even go anywhere, then the ideas aren’t exactly worth a whole lot, if anything at all.
30:06 That could be a reference to the actual secret invasion event where there were a ton of super skrulls, all with different mixes of powers. So it could be a "What-If Cap was replaced by a super skrull" and by the end the Skrull decides to embody what it means to be Cap and take over as Earth's greatest hero
thanks for mentioning the Kirby Krackle, one of the best visual motifs they've managed to translate from the comics.
Yes, one of my favorite things about the animation 🤩 And the nostalgia was awesome!!!!
Dude. The Kate Bishop model looks exactly like Hailey
yeah looking back now I think it's the really wide shoulders that threw me. the face looks about right.
Yeah, the only one I didn't recognize till they mentioned him is USAgent, his model looked generic, he didn't even look blonde
27:25 What I'd do is make the Exiles survivors of the prior mutliverse. Either through sheer luck, or power in the case of characters like Kahori, they survived the multiversal destruction at the end of Secret Wars. But their universes did not. Now they wander the new multiverse as a team of Exiles, heroes with no home to return to. Maybe they can't even control where they end up, they kinda Quantum Leap from universe to universe.
Hawkeye and the Ten Rings, a duo I never knew I needed but now desperately need more of!!
I would watch that spinoff show.
30:08 I think it’s just supposed to be Super Skrull with Cap’s body and a Red Hulk arm. It’s not on fire so not sure why you assumed Human Torch above Red Hulk who you’ve already mentioned in the video lol
I really liked episode 6. Kate Bishop is one of my all-time favorite comic characters, so adding her to anything is an automatic boost to my enthusiasm, plus Shang Chi was one of my favorite movies from phase 4, so I was happy to see more of him too. And it reminded me that I guess I am a sucker for putting superheroes in an Old West setting. And Sonny Birch is a perfect villain for an Old West story, because even though Ant-Man and the Wasp was a pretty forgettable movie, Walton Goggins is the perfect actor for an Old West story. My only complaint about the episode is that the twist with Shang Chi's sister didn't make much sense, so I think they could have made a more effective conclusion to the episode if they'd taken a couple seconds to better explain her motivations and why she turned.
In a strange way, this final season has given us the 'Sequels' (and 'Reboots') that we will probably never see in the MCU proper (or really delayed): After how many years now, we finally see Shang Chi in action again. We get to see at least one of the Eternals, this time fighting for the people he has been living amongst for thousands of years instead of just 'Kingo, Out!"-ing.
Finally, we get a 'Reboot' of the old 'Howard The Duck' movie, surprisingly carrying through with the joke that was made about Howard and ......forget her name.....in the original movie 😅
This is why I feel like using What if as a backdrop to setting up the exiles was a waste. Coz now it’s cancelled. When are we going to get more what if stories coz live action will have it’s limits
I like that this is the most positive What If content I've seen online... Unfortunately, because, you don't see many people talk about ANY POSITIVE AMthings about it, like, as a collective, and entire fanbase just said "no", to everything, no matter what.
Yep agreed, also if you really want to follow a UA-camr who is always positive about MCU content then I recommend A bit of everything.
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I second this.
Yeah I'm tired of negativity, I only follow Nando and A Bit of Everything for MCU things because everyone else seems hell bent on just shitting on anything Marvel related
Usually, I'd be on your side "what if...?" Fell off a cliff after Season 1. How do we go from "What if strange lost his heart?" To the goofy Season 2 finale or "What if Howard got hitched?"
@@spritvio639 there's literally an episode with the same tone in S1, this is literally the sequel to Party Thor
Also it was one of the best episodes this season according to many people including Nando
Some of the variants at the end that moved too quickly were actually used in the What If Immersive VR Game.
Haley Stanfeld also felt like she was revisiting True Grit, and as an Asian American- trying to reflect the Chinese experience was at least an *attempt*
My theory on why Captain Carter is getting so much hate right now.
The issue is too much time is spent using the What if concept to set up a connected story and they just happened to choose Captain Carter as a key character so she will get a lot of hate if people feel that the concept is being wasted.
Strange Supreme is also getting it coz he had a great 1st appearance then we also got over exposed to him same as Peggy. There’s definitely like an incel like part of the community that’s too focused on Peggy and ignoring Strange Supreme and The Winter soldier. In fact Marvel is currently just too obsessed with super soldiers and Captain America as a whole. We are in the multiverse era and we are still too focused on super soldiers. It just now makes the multiverse small. Whereas something like what if is such an easy way to show us how expansive the multiverse actually is.
Uatu being the central character across the series is fine as he offers a grounding point for us as the viewer. But this should’ve been mostly an anthology series with way more episodes.
I don’t even think there’s a need for Uatu to interfere in the multiverse though. Why force an outcome if that outcome will eventually come to fruition in an infinite multiverse.
They needed to just give us like maybe 15 episodes per season of pure anthology.
Even how they used this last season to bring in the new characters is something that felt sorely missed in season 2.
These animated shows could be a great way to keep us caring about characters in between the live action stuff. But the writing needs to be rock solid and the reality is that they failed this series by not fully leaning in to the concept and even a little fan service. It’s shocking to me how they managed to take the fun out of something that should be a slam dunk.
Yeap also she is only worked in season 1 because she was one of the episodes and all of them brought together by Uatu for beat Ultron supreme.
After that team ups feels so forced when ur theme all about anthologies.We coming here for ideas and plot.And this season ideas absolute flat.Like people who wrote Doctor Strange episode left to company?Why we cant have bleak stories anymore?Its more pain to see edge of multiverse ideas looks far more interesting than this show.🤦
We do not care about her
@@ProdLucioyou don’t speak for everyone
@@The_Vaperion too late
@@ProdLucio 😅wtf
Personally, the whole premise is What if..? yet every episode is the same characters, generally. Given the idea of infinity they stayed very particular
Yeah it's super cringe
Not the characters or stories anyone wanted. I think the series had too much untapped potential.
Captain Carter season 3 continues the tradition of the finale being the worst episode.
That character really does piss you guys off huh
minor correction, Medusa is an inhuman not an eternal
So Infinity Ultron has all the infinity stones and is SO enlightened and wanted to redeem himself why didn’t he just bring everyone back? Seems like the stones still work… 👀
Could be that he sees the isolation as his penance for his actions. He might also see it as bringing everyone back is just creating new beings since he still did what he did and what came before is gone
The best characters were just a glimpse at the end. It was a meh finale.
The finale of What If? season 3 was f*ckin incredible. It was everything that every second of Dragonball Z I’ve ever seen wanted to be, condensed into one episode. It. Was. Amazing.
And Storm is just too good.
isn't Medusa an inhuman, not an eternal? 6:52
I really enjoyed this show and the finale. I never expected to care so much about Uatu, but he ended up feeling really interesting and endearing. I enjoy the combination of anthology style episodes with these big finales, it's a fun mix. And the team this time around was just super fun and had good chemistry. I too hope that we get more What if, but if we don't, I think this is a great place to end it.
Herald of Galactus Jubilee is probably a play on the What If? Comic where Dazzler became the Herald of Galactus
What if? As a concept is so interesting that using it to set up The Exiles is just a complete waste of the concept.
This just felt like the disappointment of Secret Wars just being a series when it could’ve been its own Phase.
To be fair, that is more or less the comics. The Exiles as a concept doesn't really work without the decades of What If comics laying the groundwork for alternative Marvel universes.
@@rubaiyat300but we could've had what if laying the ground work and The exiles as a Sequel series
So a few things i noticed. I think the Howard the Duck as Scarlet witch...is meant to be a joke on "Magica De Spell". Just a weird thing i kinda thought about. A lot of the time, Howard gets pullled as a "Disney" joke when used, so i think that's this. I kinda hope this isn't the end. This is the one show i really saw the hate as needlless towards something really doing some interesting stuff. Between this and the Spiderman hate currentlly, i don't super get the fans. They feel against anything that has a fun twist. I recently had a talk where we think it's people this weird thing where people aren't getting the movies. They call the MCU films "Comic book movies" when they aren't, they are more EVENT comic movies. These are the kinds of stories that last months, have huge plots, crossovers. What if, and even some of the movies, sometimes feel like comic book stories. Smaller, self contained. Focusing on characters rather than the grand scope of something, and those are the ones people seem to hate the most.
Actually there was already a multiversal Exiles comic in the 90s before all that stuff with Blink. It was a crossover comic between the Marvel Universe and the Ultraverse. Juggernaut was on the team at some point. But it never gets brought up again due to rights issues with Malibu Comics and the Ultraverse.
I really hope they do that Exiles idea. There are so many ideas still left unexplored.
My only problem with the finale was that when they got Watcher powers they didn't give everyone big bald bobbleheads
I had fun with it. I didnt expect too much from the show, but i had fun with it.
I enjoyed storm the most I like what strong calls on the powers and just the sheer just greatness when she calls on power and give me chills up my spine
Your "Exiles" idea is absolutely GENIUS!! I have a similar idea for the goofy episodes we've seen. Anybody remember the "What The--?!" parody comics? Well, why not just take all off the goofy episodes & shovd them into a "What The--?!" Show??
Clearly the other costume is for Marvel Snap variants
Anytime Nando mentions his interest in Marvel Legends makes me so happy ngl
Honestly, the biggest takeaway i have from this video is i desperately want a podcast talking about Marvel Legends with Nando
this could be a stretch, but i think i figured out the jubilee silver surfer reference.
it's a shoutout to dazzler. she had a really obscure mini series in the 80s (i think) where she did in fact herald for galactus and wield the power cosmic. and roller-skates. i don't remember it making any sense at all, but back in the day they were really trying to make dazzler a thing. enter jim lee and the very 90s x men and jubilee is introduced (with effectively the same powers) and dazzler is simply not a thing anymore.
if this is in fact what they were going for, i'm here for it.
Regarding Loki: When Byrdie crashes the ship trying to lose the Watchers "inbetween" the multiverse the colour scheme as she goes through shifts into bright green visual.
I took that as a post-God of Stories Loki reference. What would be in-between the multiverse? The vines of Yggdrasil!
Sure, could be a coincidence in an already reference-stuffed episode, but I like the headcanon of it. :)
I enjoyed the 3rd season overall. LOVED all the Kirby dots. Fingers crossed for an Exiles show!
I’m glad you liked it. I thought it was crrrrrap. How did Peggy get the Time Chair? What happened to Party Thor? How does Natasha Lyonne shoot lasers out of her eyes? Why end episodes on a cliffhanger when you knew this was the end?
I know it's the holiday but I was waiting for you to weigh in on this. Thanks for all you do!
I really enjoyed the whole show. Like you said, like the real comic it's very hit or miss, but there were more hits than misses.
Hello, I would watch a show where Nando talks about upcoming comic book action figures. Just putting it out there.
I would KILL for even a Sword Master featurette for him to show up in like Shang-Chi 2
I don't like that the watcher is always interfering, in an infinite multiverse the things he wants to happen will happen somewhere so he could just go there instead of disrupting the balance of those universes
At this point, he's not a "watcher" anymore. He's an active participant.
I remember Jeffrey Wright describing his role like the cameraman of the NYC pizza rat video. And it ended up not like that.
Sure.. but that still does not fix the point that a universe exist where the bad thing happens. The point is that his interference quite literally erases a bad timeline without replacing it.
Yeah I think we needed to have a way longer narrative runway where the Watcher just gets beat down watching endless universes where bad things happened. Where we slowly see his neutral stoicism fall away as the weight of what he sees gets to him. And we need to see it, not be told Uatu has seen this happen a trillion times. Where our heroes were brave and selfless and did their best, but because these are What If stories the bad things happened regardless. That no matter how hard they tried or how competently they fought some key macguffin or event would always go wrong, sometimes impossibly so (like Final Destination or something) because in an infinite realm of possibilities superheroes will have a day where literally everything went wrong. And THEN have his break where he basically starts small and then goes bigger and bigger with it.
They needed to have the Ironheart episode go wrong once. Then have the episode concept repeat the next week, the watcher gaining hope when a new choice is made, just for something else completely different to go wrong. Then have him interfere the third time.
Now for this to work the writing would have to be perfect so it didn’t get repetitive, but it would really show the audience how boring, depressing and painful watching these characters die again and again can be. It should’ve also been with a different character, one who the audience would have an attachment to, such as Tchalla, Wanda or even Spider-Man.
I think in the Iron Heart episode, it’s pretty clear that things would have ended badly in every other multiverse, no matter how many there are. It was actually his involvement that changed the outcome for that universe. That’s why the Sovereign, right? was upset-he’s supposed to just watch and let nature take its course.
As another commenter pointed out, the show doesn’t really show the negative outcomes all that much, but it did with the origin story of Supreme Strange. He tried to save his wife, but she always ended up dying because it was an absolute point. I guess The Watcher has the power to change those absolute points by interfering with how things are supposed to go.
In Season 1, he was allowed to bring in the Guardians of the Multiverse because his interference let Ultron travel between multiverses. I think the other Watchers were okay with him solving a problem that he caused himself.
This is more of a theory than a solid conclusion, though.
If Howard the Duck isnt a main character in an Avengers movie soon im going to have words
I quite enjoyed the western episode, especially that early fight scene where Shang-Chi and Kate Bishop show off - I liked her gunslinging (especially grabbing guns flung from defeated enemies) and his kung-fu really worked great. Oh, it does seem more and more like Ironheart was expected to be out before this aired, given the focus on Riri and The Hood in two separate episodes. The weakest part of the episode for me was the Watcher stuff, but I guess it needed to be there to set up the two-part finale, which...meh, it was fine but a bit disappointing. I agree that What If...? has seemed like it wants to be 2 shows: the anthology it is, and a more serial series about "The Exiles" (I liked the team, though I feel like they could've used a fifth, and I'm not counting Uatu, who's more Zordon, nor Ultron, who just worked for that moment) - I definitely would've liked to see both, as separate things. This series finale felt appropriate for the end of the show, but also a season early, like they needed a bit more Uatu intervention to justify it.
While this show was rather up-and-down over the years, I will miss it a bit, wish it had continued with more of the anthology focus to let them do weird things. Or give us that Exiles show. Or both.
Agreed me too.
I got an ad of what if when i clicked on the video. Ironic😅
What if the Eternals were the Avengers is actually kind of sick. Because they already felt like Marvels version of the Justice League in their own movie, and I would love to see an Elseworlds with more of that. For me, that was my favorite part of Eternals.
Medusa the Inhuman, not Eternal
Noticed that, too... not to nitpick
@@sentimentalhermit😂
The Inhumans are pretty much great value eternals anyway.
Only the last 3 episodes made me feel anything. The Shang Chi episode was the strongest for me.
“The Exiles” sounds like a multiversal Suicide Squad.
What if is as exciting as opening a can of tuna
Seeing all the eXiles panels has me reminiscing of the good times reading the monthly comics. A fantastic comic book series and my favorite X-Men title
Galacta in What If would be wild. Also, Charlie's Angels does multiverse missions is a cool idea.
I'm pretty sure that Gamora was meant to be a God Butcher instead of a bride since she's wearing clothes like Gorr and was holding a Necro Sword in her right hand
For some reason, Kate Bishop to me looked prefect and Shang Chi was unrecognisable
Having Storm with Mjolnir did feel out of left field, despite her being worthy and shown to lift it in the comics, and it would've been better if we got an episode that showed Storm, with her mutant gene active, having found the hammer at the site before Thor, picking up the hammer and being pronounced worthy, and then having some shenanigans occur between the X-Men and The Brotherhood, for instance.
Nah, I was never interested in the watcher and his multiverseal avengers. I just wanted fun what if stories.
I completely forgot Walton Goggins was in Ant Man and the Wasp, I thought they brought him in for a totally new character
It would have been more connective if the exiles always formed from heroes in the earlier episodes. Maybe with captain carter as the constant rather than bringing in random characters
I really liked this season. It feels like they got better with each season as they felt more free to explore weird ideas rather than just trying to fit into the rest of the MCU. It's probably my second favorite MCU TV season after WandaVision, with Loki season 1 and Agatha All Along being my other entrants in the top tier of MCU TV seasons. I kind of hope they retract their decision to end the series and go for a season 4 that goes even weirder and bigger, although if this is indeed the end I think it was a fitting one.
I dont like the psuedo anthology they have with the show. Either have all the episodes connect or dont have them connect at all. It would be better if they didnt connect at all but were longer episods.
My theory for Storm Thor is that she loses her powers like in x-men 97 but instead of finding Forge, she finds Thor. He dies to protect her and then Mjollnir connects with Storm restoring her power and making her the goddess of storms.
I'm not entirely sold if THIS is the version of Exiles that will be the team. Mainly how OP it seems to collectively be, the characters were fine enough as characters.This is more the Ultimates (no not THAT Ultimates) with Blue Marvel, Captain Marvel, etc. Even as a team designed around permadeath I would still miss not having Blink on an Exiles team at least.
Apparently the new TVA comic that is allegedly canon includes the Exiles with Captain Carter doing missions for the TVA 👀
I don't know if this was mentioned earlier, but on the pirate ship the person with the green scarf is the Juggernaut
How we never got a "what if ms marvel was an inhuman" that had cameos from the A.O.S tv show as a nice sendoff to it will always disappoint me
I enjoyed 1872 but kept getting confused how Shang Chi teamed up with Vi
There were so many questions people had about the MCU that they could have put into these stories. One of the biggest questions I thought they could have attempted to answer was What If...Thanos had doubled resources instead of halving the population. I think it could have been a good story generator. Or what about What If...Captain America didn't return the stones to the right timelines. But instead they went with questions no-one really asked for. Some were good stories on their own, but it could have been a chance for Marvel to answer some fan questions.
Young Hela is from a What If VR game!
Cap can become Red Skull and create a super soldier army.
If they gave Storm the Thor outfit as a skin in Marvel Rivals, I'd buy it immediately
I just don't like what if as a concept, people hate that it has continuous stories but to me it's the aspect of the show I liked, I'd prefer a full on TV show based on a what if concept than random short stories I couldn't care less about
I can't wait to see live action versions of these characters in either Dooms Day or Secret Wars
Iron heart originally was suppose to air before this
Glad I am not the only one who caught the Magneto vibes.
I liked it and I liked the story arcs. I just wish the show was longer to explore more universes before diving into the team up stuff. But overall I consider this show a success overall. It was a lot of fun.
I don't know if they are going to do this, and I don't know if they should call it What If season 4 or make it it's own thing, but if Secret Wars is anything like the 2015 version, they should absolutely do a series about Battleworld.
For newer fans who don't know, most, if not all of what Marvel was publishing back in 2015, while Secret Wars was happening were "War Zones", different stories looking at different areas within Battleworld, all sorts of varied stories, if the battleworld we get in Secret Wars is anything like that... even if they make it 3 hours long it's not gonna do it justice, of course it's not, the core Secret Wars series barely brushed on any of that, it was left to the War Zones books to flesh out battleworld, the MCU version needs something similar and What If's style is probably the best bet, particularly since their tendency to switch from anthology to a finale drawing threads togeather format that the show tends to do would actually work there, if we assume that Secret Wars will end with the Avengers assembling a massive alliance of varients to do battle with Doom, the show's finale could be a lower decks episode for that fight while we focus on the main characters.