@sylokthedefiled underrated just sounds like she hasn't gotten the credit she deserves. Chalice is seemingly, and deservedly, respected by everyone who has come across her. That doesn't strike me as underrated.
@@vincentlorusso689 underrrated to me is someone who is talented but isn’t well known, which to me sounds like her. i wish the algorithm would push her videos to more souls fans because they’re such good videos
"Lord of the Erdtree....Lord of Marika...You too deserve to face the reckoning." The vitriol that drips off his tongue in that moment, man. The voice actor for Hornsent is a standout even among an incredibly well--directed cast. "O Miquella...please redeem our clan." It's sad - in that ending, he even comes to terms with Miquella's promise, decides that redemption for his people can come hand in hand with accepting one of Marika's progeny as a new god. Perhaps the fading out of his vengeance had him cling onto newfound purpose, which unfortunately you snuff out with the rest of Leda's seekers.
All the way back in DeS we can find that there's a crunch to some lines that stand out in an unusual way. The tone and even the volume of some of the lines are just not what you commonly see elsewhere.
I'm absolutely dying at the Godskin Albenauric in the background. Like one got so fed up with everything it learnt Godslayer Incantations to go kill those responsible for it's suffering.
The Hornsent man, for all his hatred of her, is all too much like Marika. Marika, whose people were slaughtered, tortured and butchered by the Hornsent, extracted vengeance without discrimination, condemning all who used and were associated with the crucible. And now the Hornsent, after killing Messmer, continues down his vengeful path, wanting all denizens of the Erdtree to pay, even when ironically one such denizen was the reason he got his vengeance in the first place.
Nice spot! This could be very possible - the King rarely answering anyone's summons would fit the Divine Birds seldom taking to human companionship. Plus, the Divine Beast Lion is characterised by storms and all that. Thank you for pointing this out!
Interesting how horns seem to be manifest more messily on Omens vs. Hornsent. Especially when comparing the curseblades vs. the bog standard sewer Omen.
The suffering endured by the Omen in the Age of the Erdtree actually enhances their spiritual power, that power being achieved by pain (self-inflicted or otherwise)
I think the Omen are a literal curse in ways too, there tormented by spirits those of the dead Hornscent I’d imagine which causes them to sprout horns everywhere and this also explains how the Dungeater quest works
@@Grimsly3736 yeah im also of belief that the omens really are a curse inflicted on not just marika but also of her people by the hornsent or at least from the grandan.
If you study the old lady's hair and garb headgear, it does seem akin to Nanaya's - the veil of the eyes section too. I wouldn't say it's so farfetched that Nanaya was a hornsent by origin.
I do love how unique the tower and it's culture are, it's really unlike any other location I've seen. BTW your Rellena cosplay was awesome I don't know how long that must of taken to make but it looks cool as hell.
This filled in a lot of gaps for me - when I played through the DLC I think I did a few important things in the wrong order and missed out on all the hornsent content and the grandnam wouldn't talk to me even with the head! Good to finally understand what was going on.
One difference between the Omens and the Hornsent (the NPCs and enemies, anyway) is that the Omens have a monstrous physique as well as horns, while the Hornsent are mostly human looking. Omens look more like a mashup up the hornsent and the blood fiends, which is perhaps related to the "curse" of omenism, and the association between the Formless Mother and cursed blood. The hornsent seem to gain their horns through physical proximity and connection to the "crucible currents", while Omens seem born at random throughout the population (Mohg and Morgott maybe weren't so random, though). The Formless Mother also apparently revealed herself to the blood fiends through one of the hornsent tutelary deities, although the blood fiends themselves don't show horns. I don't know exactly what the connection is, but seems like something is up there.
I don't think that the Omen are the same people as the Hornsent. The living Hornsent we see in game seem to only have horns sprouting from their heads, while the Omen's entire bodies are covered in an obtrusive layer of twisting horns. The Omen are also said to be taunted by horned spirits in their frightful dreams. The Omen seem more like the result of a curse put upon Marika and her lineage by the Hornsent.
Another thing to note when talking about spirals. The Gloam-Eyed Queens Godslayer Greatsword is decorated as a spiral, possibly because of her being an Empyrean. What is even more strange, however is that Vargram also has the Greatsword. It brings to question what relationship spirals had to the shadow beasts he wanted to emulate. Maybe even Maliketh and Serosh could have been on the level of the divine beasts?
One important detail you forgot to mention is the Black Keep. It is implied that the Specimen Storage room belonged to a scientific organization involved in researching and conducting archaeological work on ancient Rauth. Messmer appears to have worked closely with them, as his emblem features their symbol alongside his flame. This organization seemingly dispatched the horned warriors on field missions into Rauth, with the findings brought back to the Black Keep for study. Messmer's betrayal resulted in the massacre of the Hornsent researchers in the Black Keep, though the Fire Knights chose not to destroy the building, recognizing the value of the knowledge stored within. The implication here is that some of the Hornsent's cultural practices or their understanding of the Crucible may have been discovered in collaboration with Marika. Given that we find the same tablets in Marika's bedchamber and the prophecy of Miquella’s plans in the storage room, it seems Marika may have butchered the Hornsent not only out of revenge but also because of knowledge she uncovered in Rauth. Rauth, on the other hand, appears to be the civilization responsible for creating the Divine Towers, linking them both to the Elden Ring and the Crucible.
I swear I could listen to your voice all day every day and never get tired of it, that alone got me into watching your videos and being interested in the lore of the game and ultimately finishing the game of how much more fun your videos added to the game cause they just filled what the game was missing innately, a good understanding of the world and how to go about doing quests! please never stop making videos!!
I really hate how a lot of people didn't understand the hornsent at all, and genuinely see the story as "Hornsent bad guys, messmer good guys". The cycle of violence between the shamans, hornsent, and messmers army are meant to be that - a cycle. It is a trail of revenge and religious ferver that causes atrocity after atrocity until theres nothing left but vengeful people to make more atrocities. The point was never that hornsent are inherently evil, but that those at large did evil things and every single hornsent got punished for it. It's a lesson in total violence and 'scorched earth' philosophies. The hornsent had evil practices and did terrible things, yet it is a tragedy that their entire people is near extinct due to a mass slaughter by a foreign army. Both the shamans and the hornsent are a tragedy, despite one slaughtering the other. And just the same if another group rised and slaughtered every golden order citizen, that would still be a tragedy as well. The cycle of violence is awful, no matter who it is directed at. THATS the point, not "Hornsent kill shamans, we kill hornsent, good ending" But all of that to say - thank you Miss Chalice.
It's also a more nuanced portrayal than most. This isn't the typical case where "leaders/systems bad, innocent people good." Even the innocent Hornsent were racist as fuck towards the Shamans, and we're led to believe most seemingly condoned the actions their nation took. That doesn't mean they deserve to be slaughtered for being racist, just that being innocent and being good are not the same thing per se. Irl, it's very reminiscent of modern events. Israeli people are hugely racist and dehumanizing towards Palestinians, and many many innocent Palestinians support Hamas. None of those racist, genocide-supporting Israeli citizens or terrorist-sympathizer Palestinians deserve to die for their opinions, but them being innocence does not necessarily mean they have no faults.
I don't think anyone remotely sane saw Messmer and the good guy. He's called "The Impaler" everyone everywhere talks about how he just murdered his way across the lands of shadow.
@@CaptainSkylocke Nah I vibe with Messmer giving one back to the Hornsent after what they did to Marika/Shamans, like Leda says the Hornsent weren't saints either just that they were on the losing side of a war. Messmer ain't good but he's the lesser of two evils by a long shot and he's shown to have a lot of other qualities. Inspiring genuine loyalty and devotion with his troops, helping the jar folks, preserving Hornsent culture in a section of Shadow Keep.
Lions + Storm = Representations of Godfreys Power. I wonder if he was a Northerner that took up the traditions of the Hornsent, becoming a Divine Beast warrior (he does the stomps), and took on Godfrey as his name so he could be accepted to properly be shipped with their upcoming Saint Marika. They are shipped, and Godfrey takes his closest buds to be his Crucible Knights. Godfrey takes on Serosh like Radan does Miquella. And we know he had no shortage of horned lions. I keep wondering if Serosh was the Storm Lord.
doubt it as we know godfrey just lost his grace and soon banished after beating the storm lord and we know serosh was put on him so he could hold back his violent nature whilst elden lord.
@@ChanceClubs Yeah probably. Just the association with storms being Lions with Horns in this DLC. And no Hawks having any wind-like abilities at all in the game other than being called storm hawks.
Kinda hard to feel bad for the hornsent (race, not character), cos of how they tortured the Shamans, how they cut them, let their wounds fester and then stuffed them into jars. They didn't genocide them, they did this generation after generation (correct me if I'm wrong). They also thought they are the best race. Marika just had enough. None says she was right, it's just not "unexpected and unjustified", as you could think, when you hear about Mesmer crusade and how he burned the hornsent.
based. total hornsent debt! they got was they deserved. shamans was just chillin then the hornsent came and started commiting war crimes. WTF man. smfh.
Loved to hear your bits on Leda , do you have anything planned for her character? I think her character motivations & writing are often overlooked when to me she's one of the most interesting characters in the game.
Your cosplays are Top Notch. Creating these must take you many days. Thanks for the hard work. You're British voice, pitch perfect and your Lore is Rich!
omg i never even noticed this one has it's head when i got there!! 8:00 this is so cool, i get so drawn into and lost in your videos in the best way, they enrich and deepen the enjoyment of the game truly. you are brilliant, you are gorgeous, hope your week is kind to you! thanks for getting my week started a great way :) mmm scorpion stew
saw a reddit post today that the lamenter boss, locked away in one of the dungeons, is quite likely a divine hornsent. It has aspects of every thing, horns, black flame, red hair. But it was shunned, because the hornsent were so stuck with what the idea should be, rather than the reality in front of them
From Software lore videos are one of my favorite UA-cam genres. Love this video! This DLC has us players questioning our assumed goodness as protagonists of the story, which is always a great thing when done right. Also previous FS games are all about breaking or restarting cycles, and I think Shadow of the Erdtree kinda brought back this theme with the shaman-hornsent conflict. It's an unending cycle of revenge, misery and suffering. And IRL violence is pretty much cyclical, like the ouroboros, a serpent that endlessly feeds on itself. To me, the DLC makes the base game ending better, since it allows for some roleplay ¿Will you end the cycle upon taking the throne (or marrying Ranni) or will you replace it with another? Or maybe you're a nihilistic edgelord and just burn it all with the flame of frenzy since there's no possible redemption.
When you think about it, the furnace golems might’ve been designed to be Marika and Messmer’s “jars” for the Hornsent: A massive, animated entity powered by living beings stuffed inside it to keep it active.
I love your videos Chalice. On top of a mesmerizingly hypnotic voice, all the lore, time and effort put into the videos is so greatly appreciated. Your ability to hold the smallest details in memory to create the subtlest connections in game is unparalleled. I mean it when I say I love these videos. I would love to pick your brain on other things I've come across in game if you have a more public discord. Regardless, thank you and keep up the awesome job ^^
this is one of the best videos on this subject you did such a wonderful job of delving into the culture of the hornsent I cant wait to see what the next half looks like!
I love your videos and have been excited for you to dive into the DLC more. But I hope you've been able to take your time and enjoy the game and the world for yourself too!
Great video! It's crazy how you can run across and read all these Lord s and know them to be true in your head, but you don't really put it together until somebody painstakingly comes along and makes a video explaining it. Thank you
A little late to getting to watch another one of you amazing lore-plays! You deserve a million views with the amount of love amd effort you put into your videos! :)
Thank you for the new video. I just recently stumbled across your channel, and I honestly love the way you put the lore together, tell it to us, and edit your videos. I can't stop watch them. Keep up the good work. Cheers from Brazil. :)
THANK YOU so much for mentioning the Omen in relation to the Hornsent. I saw almost no one saying anything about the twos connection. Truely Lovely stuff
You and SmoughTown help me keep track of all this lore and I think you so much for this amazing work 💜💜 this playlist also helps me sleep, you have such a soothing voice I love it 💜
Great loreplay, Chalice. As always a really enjoyed every aspect of it. And I'll be expecting the next one because Marika is one of me favorite characters.
When you talked about the Hornsent statues that pour out spirit dust, it reminded me of a miracle that takes place in Orthodox Christian Churches. Icon's of Saint's will sometimes be caught streaming Myrrh from the paintings. There are videos and pics of this happening. And, like the statues, it's believed the Saints are still alive, and that the Icons are representation of the prototypes they are based on (the Saints themselves) thus allowing communication through prayer to the Saints.
Only recently discovered your videos since completing the dlc, really amazing! Do you do and let's play stuff or have you ever done anything on your builds going through the game, really impressed with how you managed to get your character to look so much like you!
Ok so there is an aspect of the cursed blade cirque that I don't hear mention of. The blades are designed to stab into the user's wrists. The item description mentions this as self fladgulation but people seem to miss that its literal. When using these weapons they damage the user, not in a gameplay sense but in a lore sense. I don't fully understand why they are this way. The curse blades themselves don't seem like failures to me, they are of greater importance than the average hornsent. Maybe they are being punished for coming so close to divine status? While ultimately falling just short. Idk, but i wanted to add that lil thing about the wrist stabbing thorn on the weapon themselves
I think it' s interesting to think about spiral horns, because that is something you DON' T want your animals to have: spiral horns - when not shortened - can put an animal at risk (horn growing in a spiral and back into the skull). Naturally straight horns are the ones that are not dangerous. These are the ones you want to have. A spiral growing out of controll (and back on itself) is a chaotic symbol. Maybe that' s why the hornset culture failed: they worshipped chaos.
I've seen a few videos from you now and have to say the love and passion you put into them is amazing. You are on the same level of the likes of Vaatividya and hope you realise it too :)
Hey @misschalice, Interesting video as usual here ! To be honest I started following long ago and I am now following you and Vaati only about From games, you're merely the best in my opinion. I really liked your character face too tbh ! I'll be waiting for your part 2 video :) Thank you for your passion yet !
We NEED to talk about how underrated Miss Chalice videos are
I prefer to think of her as a wonderful, little-known secret. I don't think she's underrated, but I get your point
@@vincentlorusso689i think that’s what they mean by underrated
@sylokthedefiled underrated just sounds like she hasn't gotten the credit she deserves. Chalice is seemingly, and deservedly, respected by everyone who has come across her. That doesn't strike me as underrated.
@@vincentlorusso689 underrrated to me is someone who is talented but isn’t well known, which to me sounds like her. i wish the algorithm would push her videos to more souls fans because they’re such good videos
@sylokthedefiled that's totally valid. Either way, she's awesome and she deserves more and more success.
It was very hard for me to watch this at first because I was pleasantly distracted by the Godskin Albinauric watching in the background.
i gave him a promotion. he seems pretty proud of himself
Funny, I was distracted by someone else.
@@kylerBD Marika's t-terrible oppression of past oppressors... right
@@kylerBD 😏😏
@@tylerharris4568I feel like there are less weird ways of calling someone pretty
I burst out laughing for several minutes the first time i heard hornsent grandam call marika a wanton strumpet
It's like having a normal conversation with your grandma and she just goes "Oh yeah and that fucking whore ruined my life"
Autism
wild sentence
Fr I said out loud, “she just called her a ho 🤣🤣🤣”
"Lord of the Erdtree....Lord of Marika...You too deserve to face the reckoning."
The vitriol that drips off his tongue in that moment, man. The voice actor for Hornsent is a standout even among an incredibly well--directed cast.
"O Miquella...please redeem our clan."
It's sad - in that ending, he even comes to terms with Miquella's promise, decides that redemption for his people can come hand in hand with accepting one of Marika's progeny as a new god. Perhaps the fading out of his vengeance had him cling onto newfound purpose, which unfortunately you snuff out with the rest of Leda's seekers.
All the way back in DeS we can find that there's a crunch to some lines that stand out in an unusual way. The tone and even the volume of some of the lines are just not what you commonly see elsewhere.
Eh he had it coming for insulting me one too many times
The Hornsent is my favorite character in Elden Ring. So pure and unrestricted. Proud Hornsent warrior he is, and he never needs to apologize for it.
I'm absolutely dying at the Godskin Albenauric in the background. Like one got so fed up with everything it learnt Godslayer Incantations to go kill those responsible for it's suffering.
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Its also possible that the omen are hornsent reborn from the erdtree, and the nightmares that plague them are of Mesmer's crusade of slaughter.
The Hornsent man, for all his hatred of her, is all too much like Marika. Marika, whose people were slaughtered, tortured and butchered by the Hornsent, extracted vengeance without discrimination, condemning all who used and were associated with the crucible. And now the Hornsent, after killing Messmer, continues down his vengeful path, wanting all denizens of the Erdtree to pay, even when ironically one such denizen was the reason he got his vengeance in the first place.
Ye as a 1 time Wisdom of the Moon bringer and 11 times hunted by Melina cuz I like to smoke some kush with ma boy Shabriri , i was rly offended.
Nepheli's Storm Hawk king just gained a whole new meaning. Was the storm hawk an actual divine bird?
Nice spot! This could be very possible - the King rarely answering anyone's summons would fit the Divine Birds seldom taking to human companionship. Plus, the Divine Beast Lion is characterised by storms and all that. Thank you for pointing this out!
Interesting how horns seem to be manifest more messily on Omens vs. Hornsent. Especially when comparing the curseblades vs. the bog standard sewer Omen.
The suffering endured by the Omen in the Age of the Erdtree actually enhances their spiritual power, that power being achieved by pain (self-inflicted or otherwise)
I think the Omen are a literal curse in ways too, there tormented by spirits those of the dead Hornscent I’d imagine which causes them to sprout horns everywhere and this also explains how the Dungeater quest works
Speaking of the Dungeater his sun medallion might be an ancient symbol of the Hornscent
@Grimsly3736 it looks a lot like the Furnace Giant faces, which were fashioned after the Hornsent's image of the Fell God, so that seems very likely
@@Grimsly3736 yeah im also of belief that the omens really are a curse inflicted on not just marika but also of her people by the hornsent or at least from the grandan.
If you study the old lady's hair and garb headgear, it does seem akin to Nanaya's - the veil of the eyes section too. I wouldn't say it's so farfetched that Nanaya was a hornsent by origin.
This gets me thinking, what if families truly across the board, had no control over if they grew horns or not?
Ye but a guy like Shabriri&co. can possess any fresh body.
Wow, last time I was this early Marika's people were still getting put into jars
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I love the Godskin Albinauric in the background. It really completes the recording set.
I do love how unique the tower and it's culture are, it's really unlike any other location I've seen. BTW your Rellena cosplay was awesome I don't know how long that must of taken to make but it looks cool as hell.
This filled in a lot of gaps for me - when I played through the DLC I think I did a few important things in the wrong order and missed out on all the hornsent content and the grandnam wouldn't talk to me even with the head! Good to finally understand what was going on.
Wow, my notifications actually worked for once! I'm sure this will be another amazing lore vid!
yay!! thank you so much for being here!
One difference between the Omens and the Hornsent (the NPCs and enemies, anyway) is that the Omens have a monstrous physique as well as horns, while the Hornsent are mostly human looking. Omens look more like a mashup up the hornsent and the blood fiends, which is perhaps related to the "curse" of omenism, and the association between the Formless Mother and cursed blood. The hornsent seem to gain their horns through physical proximity and connection to the "crucible currents", while Omens seem born at random throughout the population (Mohg and Morgott maybe weren't so random, though). The Formless Mother also apparently revealed herself to the blood fiends through one of the hornsent tutelary deities, although the blood fiends themselves don't show horns. I don't know exactly what the connection is, but seems like something is up there.
24:27 Jerma Jumpscare :o we love our scadoo tree
It made me choke on my pizza
The missing godskin trio has appeared... THE GODSKIN ALBINAURIC
Mesmer every time you enter his arena: tactical airstrike inbound 🔥🗣🔥🔥
The videography and expertly delivered explanation are top quality. Beautiful work.
I don't think that the Omen are the same people as the Hornsent. The living Hornsent we see in game seem to only have horns sprouting from their heads, while the Omen's entire bodies are covered in an obtrusive layer of twisting horns. The Omen are also said to be taunted by horned spirits in their frightful dreams. The Omen seem more like the result of a curse put upon Marika and her lineage by the Hornsent.
Yeah Chalice kinda missed the mark here. The omen are a real curse.
they're also pretty different, with omen being more troll like
Another thing to note when talking about spirals. The Gloam-Eyed Queens Godslayer Greatsword is decorated as a spiral, possibly because of her being an Empyrean.
What is even more strange, however is that Vargram also has the Greatsword. It brings to question what relationship spirals had to the shadow beasts he wanted to emulate. Maybe even Maliketh and Serosh could have been on the level of the divine beasts?
Spiral symbol is the dna helix
One important detail you forgot to mention is the Black Keep. It is implied that the Specimen Storage room belonged to a scientific organization involved in researching and conducting archaeological work on ancient Rauth. Messmer appears to have worked closely with them, as his emblem features their symbol alongside his flame. This organization seemingly dispatched the horned warriors on field missions into Rauth, with the findings brought back to the Black Keep for study. Messmer's betrayal resulted in the massacre of the Hornsent researchers in the Black Keep, though the Fire Knights chose not to destroy the building, recognizing the value of the knowledge stored within.
The implication here is that some of the Hornsent's cultural practices or their understanding of the Crucible may have been discovered in collaboration with Marika. Given that we find the same tablets in Marika's bedchamber and the prophecy of Miquella’s plans in the storage room, it seems Marika may have butchered the Hornsent not only out of revenge but also because of knowledge she uncovered in Rauth. Rauth, on the other hand, appears to be the civilization responsible for creating the Divine Towers, linking them both to the Elden Ring and the Crucible.
I swear I could listen to your voice all day every day and never get tired of it, that alone got me into watching your videos and being interested in the lore of the game and ultimately finishing the game of how much more fun your videos added to the game cause they just filled what the game was missing innately, a good understanding of the world and how to go about doing quests! please never stop making videos!!
I really hate how a lot of people didn't understand the hornsent at all, and genuinely see the story as "Hornsent bad guys, messmer good guys". The cycle of violence between the shamans, hornsent, and messmers army are meant to be that - a cycle. It is a trail of revenge and religious ferver that causes atrocity after atrocity until theres nothing left but vengeful people to make more atrocities.
The point was never that hornsent are inherently evil, but that those at large did evil things and every single hornsent got punished for it. It's a lesson in total violence and 'scorched earth' philosophies. The hornsent had evil practices and did terrible things, yet it is a tragedy that their entire people is near extinct due to a mass slaughter by a foreign army. Both the shamans and the hornsent are a tragedy, despite one slaughtering the other. And just the same if another group rised and slaughtered every golden order citizen, that would still be a tragedy as well.
The cycle of violence is awful, no matter who it is directed at. THATS the point, not "Hornsent kill shamans, we kill hornsent, good ending"
But all of that to say - thank you Miss Chalice.
It's also a more nuanced portrayal than most. This isn't the typical case where "leaders/systems bad, innocent people good." Even the innocent Hornsent were racist as fuck towards the Shamans, and we're led to believe most seemingly condoned the actions their nation took. That doesn't mean they deserve to be slaughtered for being racist, just that being innocent and being good are not the same thing per se.
Irl, it's very reminiscent of modern events. Israeli people are hugely racist and dehumanizing towards Palestinians, and many many innocent Palestinians support Hamas. None of those racist, genocide-supporting Israeli citizens or terrorist-sympathizer Palestinians deserve to die for their opinions, but them being innocence does not necessarily mean they have no faults.
@@tristanneal9552video game more nuanced than irl politicians
I don't think anyone remotely sane saw Messmer and the good guy. He's called "The Impaler" everyone everywhere talks about how he just murdered his way across the lands of shadow.
@@CaptainSkylocke You'd be suprised then lol
@@CaptainSkylocke Nah I vibe with Messmer giving one back to the Hornsent after what they did to Marika/Shamans, like Leda says the Hornsent weren't saints either just that they were on the losing side of a war. Messmer ain't good but he's the lesser of two evils by a long shot and he's shown to have a lot of other qualities. Inspiring genuine loyalty and devotion with his troops, helping the jar folks, preserving Hornsent culture in a section of Shadow Keep.
Lions + Storm = Representations of Godfreys Power. I wonder if he was a Northerner that took up the traditions of the Hornsent, becoming a Divine Beast warrior (he does the stomps), and took on Godfrey as his name so he could be accepted to properly be shipped with their upcoming Saint Marika. They are shipped, and Godfrey takes his closest buds to be his Crucible Knights. Godfrey takes on Serosh like Radan does Miquella. And we know he had no shortage of horned lions. I keep wondering if Serosh was the Storm Lord.
doubt it as we know godfrey just lost his grace and soon banished after beating the storm lord and we know serosh was put on him so he could hold back his violent nature whilst elden lord.
The Storm Lord is the Stormhawk King, the old ruler of Stormveil and a vassal of Placidusax
@@ChanceClubs Yeah probably. Just the association with storms being Lions with Horns in this DLC. And no Hawks having any wind-like abilities at all in the game other than being called storm hawks.
Scratches that perfect itch between lore dump and asmr that you hit perfectly everytime
I just want to say that his questline to me was similar to Diallos.
And love your work! I share when I can and watch while I'm at work.
So thank you
I don't know how you do it, but every one of your videos is so compelling and wonderfully explained. Thank you!
Kinda hard to feel bad for the hornsent (race, not character), cos of how they tortured the Shamans, how they cut them, let their wounds fester and then stuffed them into jars. They didn't genocide them, they did this generation after generation (correct me if I'm wrong). They also thought they are the best race. Marika just had enough. None says she was right, it's just not "unexpected and unjustified", as you could think, when you hear about Mesmer crusade and how he burned the hornsent.
based. total hornsent debt! they got was they deserved. shamans was just chillin then the hornsent came and started commiting war crimes. WTF man. smfh.
One of my favourite ER channels, you're doing some great stuff!
Loved to hear your bits on Leda , do you have anything planned for her character? I think her character motivations & writing are often overlooked when to me she's one of the most interesting characters in the game.
Your cosplays are Top Notch. Creating these must take you many days. Thanks for the hard work. You're British voice, pitch perfect and your Lore is Rich!
Awesome video and very underated perspectives that you have that must be looked at by more people to get a great appreciation for the game.
omg i never even noticed this one has it's head when i got there!! 8:00
this is so cool, i get so drawn into and lost in your videos in the best way, they enrich and deepen the enjoyment of the game truly.
you are brilliant, you are gorgeous, hope your week is kind to you! thanks for getting my week started a great way :)
mmm scorpion stew
saw a reddit post today that the lamenter boss, locked away in one of the dungeons, is quite likely a divine hornsent. It has aspects of every thing, horns, black flame, red hair. But it was shunned, because the hornsent were so stuck with what the idea should be, rather than the reality in front of them
These videos always educate me and help me sleep, you are the GOAT lore god
From Software lore videos are one of my favorite UA-cam genres. Love this video!
This DLC has us players questioning our assumed goodness as protagonists of the story, which is always a great thing when done right.
Also previous FS games are all about breaking or restarting cycles, and I think Shadow of the Erdtree kinda brought back this theme with the shaman-hornsent conflict. It's an unending cycle of revenge, misery and suffering. And IRL violence is pretty much cyclical, like the ouroboros, a serpent that endlessly feeds on itself.
To me, the DLC makes the base game ending better, since it allows for some roleplay ¿Will you end the cycle upon taking the throne (or marrying Ranni) or will you replace it with another? Or maybe you're a nihilistic edgelord and just burn it all with the flame of frenzy since there's no possible redemption.
THE ALBINURAC PAINTING IN THE BACKGROUND IS ADORABLE AAAAAAH
Great video as always 😊
I love your lore videos! In my opinion, you are up there with Illusory Wall, Zullie and Quelaag.
Great video deserves more views for the effort you put in them especially with the cosplays
Love the content. Honestly from the first second of the video you feel an engagement not common in most videos. Ty for the cosplays, i love them lol
I adore your videos. Your voice carries a peacefulness beyond measure
Great video. Ending is perfect. Sets up the Hornsent/jar people twist very ominously.
My favorite lore channel and has been for a while now! You are fantastic and your videos are amazing! Thank you for all your hard work!
Man I m not crying your crying frigging keep coming back to your videos even if it hurts
When you think about it, the furnace golems might’ve been designed to be Marika and Messmer’s “jars” for the Hornsent: A massive, animated entity powered by living beings stuffed inside it to keep it active.
I love your videos Chalice. On top of a mesmerizingly hypnotic voice, all the lore, time and effort put into the videos is so greatly appreciated. Your ability to hold the smallest details in memory to create the subtlest connections in game is unparalleled. I mean it when I say I love these videos. I would love to pick your brain on other things I've come across in game if you have a more public discord. Regardless, thank you and keep up the awesome job ^^
this is one of the best videos on this subject you did such a wonderful job of delving into the culture of the hornsent I cant wait to see what the next half looks like!
You've earned a subscriber and then some, Ms. Chalice :) Keep making amazing content. You have a very calming, distinguished, and soothing voice.
Just want to say thank you for your videos! I have to watch them at least twice: once for the lore, and once to fall asleep to 😴
I love your videos and have been excited for you to dive into the DLC more. But I hope you've been able to take your time and enjoy the game and the world for yourself too!
Great video! It's crazy how you can run across and read all these Lord s and know them to be true in your head, but you don't really put it together until somebody painstakingly comes along and makes a video explaining it. Thank you
It’s a new video my favorite Elden Ring channel! What a good start of a day!
YES A VID ABOUT THE HORNSENT YAYAYA🗣️‼️‼️
Love your videos, I'm so happy I found your channel. The way you talk about the lore of my all time favorite game is enchanting. Keep it up :)
A little late to getting to watch another one of you amazing lore-plays! You deserve a million views with the amount of love amd effort you put into your videos! :)
This channel reminds me of mrballen for video games. Such good narratives and background music so immersive.
I'm under the impression that the curse of the omen is literally the omen births happening in Marika's kingdom, even down to two of her own children.
You have a lovely voice for narration, and your cosplays are very endearing.
In short. Good work! Keep it up! We beleive in you!
I love your narrations and lore breakdowns.
Thank you for the new video.
I just recently stumbled across your channel, and I honestly love the way you put the lore together, tell it to us, and edit your videos. I can't stop watch them.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers from Brazil. :)
THANK YOU so much for mentioning the Omen in relation to the Hornsent. I saw almost no one saying anything about the twos connection. Truely Lovely stuff
Thank you as always for the amazing lore analysis video, just in time for ne to finish the channel's catalogue
Grandam calling Marika a strumpet gets me every time lol. Your videos are always so well researched, I truly appreciate your observations.
Very nice video, once again. And a very cute kitten, you have there XD
Nice to see a video detailing the lore of the Hornsent without diving into "Total Hornsent Death".
Also, this is the voice of an angel.
It is suitable that the cat decided to make an appearance in the video discussing Divine Beasts. It thought the video was about itself.
You and SmoughTown help me keep track of all this lore and I think you so much for this amazing work 💜💜 this playlist also helps me sleep, you have such a soothing voice I love it 💜
I’m new to this channel but I’ve come to love these lore videos and the cosplay. Thank you for making them 👏🏾
Lovely lingering shot on the minor erdtree for the cliffhanger so to speak. Another tremendous video overall for that matter.
Ah yes, a new video to watch while working out and re-watching for the next 3 weeks. Thanks Chalice!
Well now I'm hyped for that Marika/Shaman video
Great loreplay, Chalice. As always a really enjoyed every aspect of it. And I'll be expecting the next one because Marika is one of me favorite characters.
I don't want to be weird but I really like how your voice sounds. It calming and I'll put your videos on in the background when I can't sleep
Sometimes she sounds like a somber fromsoft NPC, and it gives me chills!
Love your content. And that voice. Damn! Subscribed!
Using the Inquisitor armour and weapons in the game footage was an absolutely perfect choice
Have been waiting for you to cover the hornsent lore!!!
When you talked about the Hornsent statues that pour out spirit dust, it reminded me of a miracle that takes place in Orthodox Christian Churches. Icon's of Saint's will sometimes be caught streaming Myrrh from the paintings. There are videos and pics of this happening. And, like the statues, it's believed the Saints are still alive, and that the Icons are representation of the prototypes they are based on (the Saints themselves) thus allowing communication through prayer to the Saints.
Is Myrrh flammable? I'm asking just in case I need to ward off demons. I plan on getting my hands on some holy oil, anyway.
@@TOUGHEYESgood question, I need to be more involved in my studies and practices before I could honestly answer that lol.
28:35 CAT TIMESTAMP, CAT TIMESTAMP
Awesome video as always, Chalice :)
Only recently discovered your videos since completing the dlc, really amazing!
Do you do and let's play stuff or have you ever done anything on your builds going through the game, really impressed with how you managed to get your character to look so much like you!
Ok so there is an aspect of the cursed blade cirque that I don't hear mention of. The blades are designed to stab into the user's wrists. The item description mentions this as self fladgulation but people seem to miss that its literal. When using these weapons they damage the user, not in a gameplay sense but in a lore sense. I don't fully understand why they are this way. The curse blades themselves don't seem like failures to me, they are of greater importance than the average hornsent. Maybe they are being punished for coming so close to divine status? While ultimately falling just short. Idk, but i wanted to add that lil thing about the wrist stabbing thorn on the weapon themselves
I think it' s interesting to think about spiral horns, because that is something you DON' T want your animals to have: spiral horns - when not shortened - can put an animal at risk (horn growing in a spiral and back into the skull). Naturally straight horns are the ones that are not dangerous. These are the ones you want to have. A spiral growing out of controll (and back on itself) is a chaotic symbol. Maybe that' s why the hornset culture failed: they worshipped chaos.
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Lore mommy uploaded? I’m sleeping good tonight
Great video! I totally love the way you explain the lore and tale of Elden Ring. ^_^
Damn! Respectfully ofcourse, ma'am. Also love your lore videos once I finished the game went straight here for a greater understanding
its always a good day when you upload love your video's
I wanted to give the grandam a hug ;u; especially after she gives you that stew.
I only want to kill her
I've seen a few videos from you now and have to say the love and passion you put into them is amazing. You are on the same level of the likes of Vaatividya and hope you realise it too :)
The Favourite Lore channel out there. 🤗
the ascetic's set kinda looks like morgott's robe
18:02 the curse of the omen spoken of by the grandam is another iteration on the curse of kos from the fishing hamlet in bloodborne
Absolutely love the horns! Great touch for this lore
omg the kitty making a guest appearance :D
Hey @misschalice, Interesting video as usual here ! To be honest I started following long ago and I am now following you and Vaati only about From games, you're merely the best in my opinion. I really liked your character face too tbh !
I'll be waiting for your part 2 video :) Thank you for your passion yet !
this was very good hype for part 2 !
a really fun thing about the scadutree is how its crooked, kinda like looking at a tree's shadow on the ground when a light source shines on it.
Whoa, that cat was huge!
Oh, wait, its on the table. Perspective shenanigans. Great video as always btw.