I always thought this scene was insulting to Addison. I mean the way she must have felt hearing how Dell and Naomi were talking about abortions probably hurt on some level. I know Addison is a strong woman who is at peace with her decisions but still to hear all of that must have hurt and I don't think anyone really addresses Addison's past respectfully.
She says she is at peace with her abortion, but then later in the series she is talking about how her baby would be 6 this year, what she would have looked like, etc. I think she did have regret on some level.
@@TeamMaddisonYT i think being at peace doesn't mean not feeling regret, it's feeling that it was the right choice, but it doesn't mean that it's a decision she was happy to make
@@megandurrant4000 Right, lmao pro-lifers are pro-life until their daughters or their Mistresses get knocked up.... Then they want abortions on demand. It's absolutely spineless and disgusting, You can't climb up to your high ass soapbox and preach about how empathic you are about the precious little unborn but then completely abandon your principles when things get a little too inconvenient for you. It's like if someone said that they're anti-vax because they don't like putting foreign things in their body but then go to McDonald's every day and have a horrible diet of processed foods constantly filling their body with foreign chemicals.
@@damndoublehomicide5425 The absolutely do!! They play the biggest role in getting women pregnant! You don't get to kill a baby for your own sake. It's called murder!
If you get pregnant you get to decide. Men have absolutely no say in this. They are not the ones going throug mentall and physical trauma so an unwanted child can be brought to term. You dont have a uterus, you dont get a say on what others with uteruses do with their body.
@@avery5769 Because men still have to have the baby even if they don’t want it. Men don’t get to say fuck the financial burden of a child. The deserve a choice. The saying is it takes two to have a baby. If you hold this ideal then it means women who decide to keep the baby should not be able to forced men to pay child support or do anything. In a society one group is never just society affected alone. The best analogy I can think of in this moment is a boss who starts a company. The workers do just as much in making in run. If the boss be able to do whatever they want without consideration of the people.... ie taking a certain benefits that would be wrong. But using this logic the boss took the biggest “risk” and would lose the most so it’s fair
@@myacole1272 I understand what you’re saying, believe me I do. I think the analogy was great. It’s just, you know, if the father wanted, he could walk away from the pregnancy. He could run away. But where is that option for women? They will always be stuck with the child. At least for the 9 months. You could bring up adoption but the childcare system is heavily underfunded. The chances that a child would end up in a happy home are pretty low. And even if they aren’t adopted, there’s the chance of being sexually, physically, or emotionally abused by anybody there. In my opinion, the father can say what he wants, but he does not get the final decision.
@@avery5769 actually babies are the most adopted and cared for. It’s older children in the system that are not the safest. And even if the father runs away, the child support will still follow and he can have his check dipped and he can face jail time. And women have a bunch of ways to avoid pregnancy as well. Ie. The plethora of safe sex options.
Dell telling that women his opinion on abortions is horrible - it’s her body her choice. A women as a right to make her own decision about her own body. Always. But I do still think the new doctor should have told the others she wanted to do them so they could discuss it because even if you aren’t against abortion Naomi and Cooper still have valid points regarding the environment they would be held in. Also no matter what she wanted to do she still should’ve told them considering they were letting her work there - it wasn’t her practice to decide what they did or didn’t do there
Would we also expect every doctor in the practice to specify what procedures they do/don’t do? If so, then Meg should have told them. But if we wouldn’t expect Naomi to discuss and list every single fertility treatment, or Addison to talk about every OBGYN procedure, then we shouldn’t expect Meg to list this medical procedure (amongst the many she performs).
« Told her my opinion » he said. He probably said that abortion would be make her a murderer and did everything to make her feel guilty. Choice is choice dude, if you don’t respect that then mind someone else’s business
I think you have to consider Dell's opinion something that was broadcasted 10 years ago. Nowadays, the audience stands with Addison (especially with the Supreme Court's deplorable decision this year...) At least I hope they do.
Mighty Cousintube I’m sorry but women do a have a right when it does come to there body . Before you sit there and say they don’t have a right do some research. In my opinion women should have right because a baby isn’t a baby till it has a strong heart beat . I am just saying
@@snakebitepellehue it actually starts earlier than that since the earliest fetal movement from recent studies and brain spine and heart development begin at the earliest 6 weeks and movement at 12. amazing how many promote abortion instead of healthier practices while also knowing nothing about fetal development. thus in the texas bill or as commmonly stated the heartbeat bill which can be detected as early as 6 weeks. to me if you want to argue its valid operation scientifically and not murder than any abortion befor 6 weeks and at the LATEST 12 would be valid. But technicallly if its in the embryonic stage its a clump of cells which makes it reasonable to have an abortion.
So many people don’t want or not ready to have kids ending up have some, that’s really sad. The kids will grow up with traumas, sad childhood or depression. So can the parents. Having a child is a great deal of responsibility, if a woman is not ready to have kids why should she?
For me, it's more about needing to prevent pregnancies rather than terminating them. Too many idiots out there getting knocked up, or knocking someone up because they don't care to use protection.
Where an infant resides, whether inside or outside a woman's body, does not determine whether or not this human being is being killed. It makes no sense that people do not see that once conceived, a new unique human LIFE is formed. Just because she conceived it does not mean that the woman has to be the infant's mother. The fact that sex results in creation of new life is why abstinence should still be taught if we are providing sex ed to kids in school... because using those pro-creating parts of the body for pleasure DOES come with responsibility and ideally people should proceed with the expectation of the creation of life when having sex. You have sex, life is created, it's not the woman's body, it is a separate distinct life. So the only choice that the woman really needs to make is whether she will keep the child and raise it OR whether she will forfeit her right and yield the child over for adoption. ABORTION is not the answer.
She played a patient on Grey's, George and Izzie made her do all this stuff to give her a seizure, so Derek could operate. She was a, lawyer, though, not a doctor... Funny. :)
Everyone has their own personal opinion on abortion. But, when you’re a doctor you don’t get to have personal opinion on the topic. You gave up the right to have an opinion when you took the oath of a doctor, you keep your personal opinions to yourself. And you damn sure don’t get to have an opinion when it’s not your patient.
Wait is she the lady who had seizures in Grey's anatomy. It was the episode where Izzy and George were spending the whole day with her and at the end they started fighting and that caused her seizure.
People are fallible human beings and sometimes we fail. What Naomi did, though, was counter to the Catholic culture for which she and her husband claim at the beginning of this show. I agree the character is written with a hypocritical nature and I would have been happy to see Naomi stand up for her beliefs in both managing her daughter's pregnancy (instead of heaping a bunch of trauma on the child with the termination of a life) and in managing her practice.
Couple of issues I have with your statement. The quote you give "instead of heaping a bunch of trauma on the child with the termination of a life". 1st, did you think that maybe the characters thought things through and came to the conclusion that the 'trauma of giving birth' and either giving a baby up for adoption or even keeping the baby was going to be even more traumatic? and 2nd, it's not 'termination of a life', it a 'termination of a pregnancy'!@@michellewhitacre9318
I think it's just conflicting to do abortions in a fertility clinic, it would probably be more appropriate to do them in different places, or at least create different sections for abortions, maybe even a more private setting
It’s not just a fertility clinic tho is a co-op medical practice meaning there are lots of diff medical specialties there including fertility and gynaecology and one of the procedure in gynaecology are abortions they chose to have gynaecology in the practice along with all of its procedures and should not go back on there decision bc they don’t like it.
@@keelin9170 doctors can be in a specialty but choose what procedures they focus on. For example: general surgeons can choose to only do laparoscopic procedures or only robotic or only bariatric. Doctors are never obligated to provided every procedure that fall under their specialty.
Did the front person - forgot the name - get reprimanded for this or was everyone - except for Addison and the other doctor - okay with him saying stuff to a patient he has no business with?
Just from that clip, I already hate these characters and they should not be running this clinic. Women should have the right to choose to not carry out a pregnancy, not the doctors or whatever they believe in. It's not their body.
I love Grey's and PP but I hate how abortion was so normalised in both shows. Even Naomi ended up becoming a massive hypocrite when her own daughter got pregnant. Dell was such a breath of fresh air. He was so sweet and empathetic but he always stuck to his beliefs. Whatever the reason he was unapologetically pro-life. Yes, talking to that patient was out of line but if something goes against your beliefs should you be forced to participate in it? And I'm not talking about making a wedding cake for an LGBTQ+ couple. Besides, if she truly had made up her mind nothing he said should've changed that. But then he was forced to apologise and she went through with it anyway. Bottom line, his opinion didn't matter anyway because he didn't have a uterus. If a woman wants an abortion the man has no say but if a woman decides to have the baby the man is expected to step up as a father and pay child support. I'm a feminist but the hypocrisy is INFURIATING. Even putting personal feelings aside, this is a very controversial issue that the doctor should have disclosed to the owner and staff, especially at a FERTILITY CLINIC. It is a bit fucked up that one place has lots of women that are trying so hard to get pregnant and then in the next room another one is having an abortion. It's so contradictory.
That's infuriating, Dell was a nobody, he had no right to do this at all. There's no "belief" around pro-life, it's not a life it's an embryo, it might as well be a tumor. You don't get blamed by strangers when you get rid of a tumor ? Why would you when you get rid of an embryo ???
@@eviegirl2746 i’m so sorry you struggle with infertility and i truly hope you get a child of your own some day, but you choose to try and have a baby, so why can’t other women choose not to?
@@sheev9852 it actually is just cause you don’t like it doesn’t make it any less true. Since heartbeat detection happens at 6 weeks. And the earliest fetal movement at 12. Of which by this time the baby is formed and shows brain function. So yeah before 6weeks (1.5mo first trimester or 12 weeks when first trimester is basically complete is really the only window you have to have an abortion and past 6 weeks is scientifically cutting it close.
I always thought this scene was insulting to Addison. I mean the way she must have felt hearing how Dell and Naomi were talking about abortions probably hurt on some level. I know Addison is a strong woman who is at peace with her decisions but still to hear all of that must have hurt and I don't think anyone really addresses Addison's past respectfully.
It was disrespectful to both Addie and Violet (who had 2 abortions), and just women in general.
@sun cream yes. She almost forced her own child into terminating. Yet she is against abortion.
She says she is at peace with her abortion, but then later in the series she is talking about how her baby would be 6 this year, what she would have looked like, etc. I think she did have regret on some level.
@@TeamMaddisonYT i think being at peace doesn't mean not feeling regret, it's feeling that it was the right choice, but it doesn't mean that it's a decision she was happy to make
@@megandurrant4000 Right, lmao pro-lifers are pro-life until their daughters or their Mistresses get knocked up.... Then they want abortions on demand. It's absolutely spineless and disgusting, You can't climb up to your high ass soapbox and preach about how empathic you are about the precious little unborn but then completely abandon your principles when things get a little too inconvenient for you. It's like if someone said that they're anti-vax because they don't like putting foreign things in their body but then go to McDonald's every day and have a horrible diet of processed foods constantly filling their body with foreign chemicals.
I like how says," wait you MEN have a problem with it "
As a woman I think Addison had no right to exclude men from the discussion. It was their workplace too, and their opinions should be considered.
Gaby Champion no men don't get an opinion shut up
@@damndoublehomicide5425 The absolutely do!! They play the biggest role in getting women pregnant! You don't get to kill a baby for your own sake. It's called murder!
manue kend girl- it's not there body it is not murder it's not gonna be growing inside there fucking body for months! EDUCATE YOURSELF
@@manuekend It’s not murder
If you get pregnant you get to decide. Men have absolutely no say in this. They are not the ones going throug mentall and physical trauma so an unwanted child can be brought to term. You dont have a uterus, you dont get a say on what others with uteruses do with their body.
That’s dumbass logic
@@myacole1272 how
@@avery5769 Because men still have to have the baby even if they don’t want it. Men don’t get to say fuck the financial burden of a child. The deserve a choice. The saying is it takes two to have a baby. If you hold this ideal then it means women who decide to keep the baby should not be able to forced men to pay child support or do anything. In a society one group is never just society affected alone.
The best analogy I can think of in this moment is a boss who starts a company. The workers do just as much in making in run. If the boss be able to do whatever they want without consideration of the people.... ie taking a certain benefits that would be wrong. But using this logic the boss took the biggest “risk” and would lose the most so it’s fair
@@myacole1272 I understand what you’re saying, believe me I do. I think the analogy was great.
It’s just, you know, if the father wanted, he could walk away from the pregnancy. He could run away. But where is that option for women? They will always be stuck with the child. At least for the 9 months. You could bring up adoption but the childcare system is heavily underfunded. The chances that a child would end up in a happy home are pretty low. And even if they aren’t adopted, there’s the chance of being sexually, physically, or emotionally abused by anybody there.
In my opinion, the father can say what he wants, but he does not get the final decision.
@@avery5769 actually babies are the most adopted and cared for. It’s older children in the system that are not the safest.
And even if the father runs away, the child support will still follow and he can have his check dipped and he can face jail time.
And women have a bunch of ways to avoid pregnancy as well. Ie. The plethora of safe sex options.
I love the part in one of the episodes where Addison talks about being one of only 1700 abortion providers in the United States.
Jupp. It was in episode 4x21. :)
That sounds like a lot of people until you realize there are 175 million women in the USA.
@@maureenogorman8740 It's a small number. That's the point.
Dell telling that women his opinion on abortions is horrible - it’s her body her choice. A women as a right to make her own decision about her own body. Always. But I do still think the new doctor should have told the others she wanted to do them so they could discuss it because even if you aren’t against abortion Naomi and Cooper still have valid points regarding the environment they would be held in. Also no matter what she wanted to do she still should’ve told them considering they were letting her work there - it wasn’t her practice to decide what they did or didn’t do there
Would we also expect every doctor in the practice to specify what procedures they do/don’t do? If so, then Meg should have told them. But if we wouldn’t expect Naomi to discuss and list every single fertility treatment, or Addison to talk about every OBGYN procedure, then we shouldn’t expect Meg to list this medical procedure (amongst the many she performs).
ItsEmi I agree but he doesn't think the same anymore
« Told her my opinion » he said. He probably said that abortion would be make her a murderer and did everything to make her feel guilty. Choice is choice dude, if you don’t respect that then mind someone else’s business
I think you have to consider Dell's opinion something that was broadcasted 10 years ago. Nowadays, the audience stands with Addison (especially with the Supreme Court's deplorable decision this year...) At least I hope they do.
let's get this straight..It's a women right to choose to have an abortion...it's her body...
Wrong not their body when there’s baby inside now it’s two bodies. Murder is murder.
Mighty Cousintube I’m sorry but women do a have a right when it does come to there body . Before you sit there and say they don’t have a right do some research. In my opinion women should have right because a baby isn’t a baby till it has a strong heart beat . I am just saying
@@aneyabenton2529 The heart starts beating at 21 days, FYI. May I ask how you came up with that criteria to say whether or not it's a baby?
@@snakebitepellehue it actually starts earlier than that since the earliest fetal movement from recent studies and brain spine and heart development begin at the earliest 6 weeks and movement at 12. amazing how many promote abortion instead of healthier practices while also knowing nothing about fetal development. thus in the texas bill or as commmonly stated the heartbeat bill which can be detected as early as 6 weeks. to me if you want to argue its valid operation scientifically and not murder than any abortion befor 6 weeks and at the LATEST 12 would be valid. But technicallly if its in the embryonic stage its a clump of cells which makes it reasonable to have an abortion.
Dell was self righteous af!
He was self dumb af*
Addison is easily the sexiest character on the show
On both PP and Greys
Dell is extremely unethical, that should never happen
So many people don’t want or not ready to have kids ending up have some, that’s really sad. The kids will grow up with traumas, sad childhood or depression. So can the parents. Having a child is a great deal of responsibility, if a woman is not ready to have kids why should she?
That's a thing pro lifers don't want to address
For me, it's more about needing to prevent pregnancies rather than terminating them. Too many idiots out there getting knocked up, or knocking someone up because they don't care to use protection.
@@OneGaurdian protection is not 100% guaranteed to keep you from getting pregnant tho.
Where an infant resides, whether inside or outside a woman's body, does not determine whether or not this human being is being killed. It makes no sense that people do not see that once conceived, a new unique human LIFE is formed. Just because she conceived it does not mean that the woman has to be the infant's mother. The fact that sex results in creation of new life is why abstinence should still be taught if we are providing sex ed to kids in school... because using those pro-creating parts of the body for pleasure DOES come with responsibility and ideally people should proceed with the expectation of the creation of life when having sex. You have sex, life is created, it's not the woman's body, it is a separate distinct life. So the only choice that the woman really needs to make is whether she will keep the child and raise it OR whether she will forfeit her right and yield the child over for adoption. ABORTION is not the answer.
@@superskent5522 that is not true.
Wow! Hit home and loved how each stuck to their convictions! Bottom line...
She played a patient on Grey's, George and Izzie made her do all this stuff to give her a seizure, so Derek could operate. She was a, lawyer, though, not a doctor... Funny. :)
april kepner was also on this show and greys anatomy as different characters
I thought I imagined it
Everyone has their own personal opinion on abortion. But, when you’re a doctor you don’t get to have personal opinion on the topic. You gave up the right to have an opinion when you took the oath of a doctor, you keep your personal opinions to yourself. And you damn sure don’t get to have an opinion when it’s not your patient.
Wait is she the lady who had seizures in Grey's anatomy. It was the episode where Izzy and George were spending the whole day with her and at the end they started fighting and that caused her seizure.
Yes
ok but naomi literally forced her daughter to have an abortion 💀 gurl make up your mind
People are fallible human beings and sometimes we fail. What Naomi did, though, was counter to the Catholic culture for which she and her husband claim at the beginning of this show. I agree the character is written with a hypocritical nature and I would have been happy to see Naomi stand up for her beliefs in both managing her daughter's pregnancy (instead of heaping a bunch of trauma on the child with the termination of a life) and in managing her practice.
Couple of issues I have with your statement. The quote you give "instead of heaping a bunch of trauma on the child with the termination of a life". 1st, did you think that maybe the characters thought things through and came to the conclusion that the 'trauma of giving birth' and either giving a baby up for adoption or even keeping the baby was going to be even more traumatic? and 2nd, it's not 'termination of a life', it a 'termination of a pregnancy'!@@michellewhitacre9318
Naomi’s kid gets knocked up at 16 & she wanted her daughter to have an abortion...FYI
worse at 15 LMAO
She was on Grey’s Anatomy during the ep as a Divorce Attorney where George and Izzie have to induce a seizure into her.
I love her so much and am so happy that she has this so I can have more of her content!!!! 🥺❤️
I think it's just conflicting to do abortions in a fertility clinic, it would probably be more appropriate to do them in different places, or at least create different sections for abortions, maybe even a more private setting
It’s not just a fertility clinic tho is a co-op medical practice meaning there are lots of diff medical specialties there including fertility and gynaecology and one of the procedure in gynaecology are abortions they chose to have gynaecology in the practice along with all of its procedures and should not go back on there decision bc they don’t like it.
Most abortions are held at planned Parenthood who works on fertility and cancer diagnosis. Abortion fits in the fertility subject
@@keelin9170 doctors can be in a specialty but choose what procedures they focus on. For example: general surgeons can choose to only do laparoscopic procedures or only robotic or only bariatric. Doctors are never obligated to provided every procedure that fall under their specialty.
what episode is this?
Did the front person - forgot the name - get reprimanded for this or was everyone - except for Addison and the other doctor - okay with him saying stuff to a patient he has no business with?
Wasn’t dr. Porter the divorce lawyer in the main show?
Yes. I don't remember if it was later or earlier, but Sarah Drew (April) is also on Private Practice.
When I see this scene, I see Addison with the song "my way or the highway" loudly
Unless you want to fight with me. Love it!
Just from that clip, I already hate these characters and they should not be running this clinic. Women should have the right to choose to not carry out a pregnancy, not the doctors or whatever they believe in. It's not their body.
I have some issues with Naomi that are far unsettled…
Excellent episode!
He should have been fired immediately for having spoken like that to a patient. And in 99% of medical private practices today, he would be, thank god.
We want the machine that goes 'PING'!!!!!
Is this show still airing?
No it finished a while back
Happy ending
i love dell but he was so disgusting here
Hell i love addison
This is confusing,
.
I like how says," wait you MEN have a problem with it "
I'm glad at least Naomi was speaking up about it.
Sorry but wasnt naomi the one who tried to force her daughter into an abortion? Sorry but she is so hypocritical in my opinion.
@@nadine6860 I haven't seen Private Practice yet. All I know is that in this scene, she was sticking up for a good cause.
@@graceeliz3913 a good cause? So you think forcing woman into staying pregnant and having an unwanted baby is the better option.?
@@graceeliz3913 nope opression ain't it
@@megandurrant4000 murdering babies is cool woooooo
I love Grey's and PP but I hate how abortion was so normalised in both shows. Even Naomi ended up becoming a massive hypocrite when her own daughter got pregnant. Dell was such a breath of fresh air. He was so sweet and empathetic but he always stuck to his beliefs. Whatever the reason he was unapologetically pro-life. Yes, talking to that patient was out of line but if something goes against your beliefs should you be forced to participate in it? And I'm not talking about making a wedding cake for an LGBTQ+ couple. Besides, if she truly had made up her mind nothing he said should've changed that. But then he was forced to apologise and she went through with it anyway. Bottom line, his opinion didn't matter anyway because he didn't have a uterus. If a woman wants an abortion the man has no say but if a woman decides to have the baby the man is expected to step up as a father and pay child support. I'm a feminist but the hypocrisy is INFURIATING.
Even putting personal feelings aside, this is a very controversial issue that the doctor should have disclosed to the owner and staff, especially at a FERTILITY CLINIC. It is a bit fucked up that one place has lots of women that are trying so hard to get pregnant and then in the next room another one is having an abortion. It's so contradictory.
If you talk to abortion providers they might tell you, that a lot of pro-lifers are hypocrites when it comes to their own family
@@snickeridooo5467 Yes some but not all
@@snickeridooo5467 People are hypocrites about EVERYTHING when it comes to their own family.
That's infuriating, Dell was a nobody, he had no right to do this at all. There's no "belief" around pro-life, it's not a life it's an embryo, it might as well be a tumor.
You don't get blamed by strangers when you get rid of a tumor ? Why would you when you get rid of an embryo ???
It's not contradictory at all. It's all about a woman's ability to decide what happens to her own body.
im pro life and im proud of it
ok and
that's embarrassing
so you against a women’s right to do what she wants with her own body?
@@eleanortowse its not that its just something in me says something about this feels wrong i struggle with infertility and i want a child so badly
@@eviegirl2746 i’m so sorry you struggle with infertility and i truly hope you get a child of your own some day, but you choose to try and have a baby, so why can’t other women choose not to?
Murder. Period.
It's just not, educate yourself a little bit
@@sheev9852 I mean it scientifically IS if its past 6-12 weeks.
@@yourmumschancla3953 no it's not 🤣 just because you say scientifically doesn't mean it's true
@@sheev9852 it actually is just cause you don’t like it doesn’t make it any less true. Since heartbeat detection happens at 6 weeks. And the earliest fetal movement at 12. Of which by this time the baby is formed and shows brain function. So yeah before 6weeks (1.5mo first trimester or 12 weeks when first trimester is basically complete is really the only window you have to have an abortion and past 6 weeks is scientifically cutting it close.
@@sheev9852 but it’s fact tho, once they they have a chance live outside the womb it’s murder simple as. They are now illegal…