The State of the 2022 BMW M3 | Car and Driver Road Test
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After helping define the sport sedan category, what how does the BMW M3 fit in the segment in 2022? Carlos Lago explores that question in this review of the 2022 BMW M3. We look at the history of the M3 and its modern variants, including the Competition, Competition xDrive, and M4. We also cover the test figures, including 0-60 mph and roll-on acceleration.
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00:00 Intro
01:04 A brief history lesson
01:54 The modern M3, its many varieties, and its competitors
03:32 Driving it
06:35 Acceleration test results
07:02 More driving
08:52 Drive modes
09:48 Handling
11:05 Conclusion
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Totally agree on the numbers game. Any performance car nowadays is gonna be fast, gas or electric, but electric is gonna smoke it in the real world. What matters is how the car makes you feel- the experience. That's all I care about anymore. Does it give me a smile? Is it fun and rewarding? That's what really matters.
Exactly. 0-60 in 3.9 seconds, oh how slow. Those were supercar numbers only a decade or 2 ago.
Exactly buy what you like, I’m not a fan of electric cars so no go for me no matter how good they are. But more power to those who like them buy it and enjoy it.
Agree, it’s how it makes you feel, but not sure electric will be faster in anything but a straight line drag race. They’re so much heavier, have limited range, and take ages to charge. They’d definitely lose a rally, or a race on a track that lasted more than, say, an hour.
I have to have a good exhaust note
Agree. For me on the backroads give me a naturally aspirated , 500hp , manual that handles well and I’m good.
The state of this car reminds me of how Cammisa talked about the 991.2 911. A 911 that doesn't have any performance-enhancing options (like rear-wheel steer, adjustable dampers, etc.) ends up being an incredibly satisfying car because it feels more natural and as close to the ethos of the original car as one can get in a modern version. Lap times and raw speed are so overrated compared to getting the driving experience right.
Camissa also put out a good video about the history of the M3 -- complements this one nicely, actually -- and has some similar things to say about the purity and fun of older/slower cars (the E30 M3 in that case). And then he get absolutely spanked around the track by Randy Pobst in a G80...good fun.
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And he's right!
@@shahaknagiel2845 I've seen it! Been loving the stuff he's been putting out for Hagerty just like I've been enjoying Carlos's content from C&D.
A really nice and mature presentation, hatts off to the presenter for being analytical respectful and spot on. Enough with some silly ass childish reviews with 0-100 ,drag testing and goofing off that get thousands of views. Car and driver never disappoints
Thank you!
Carlos is a great on screen presenter. UA-cam is not just the future of automotive journalism, it's The Now ! I still have a few automotive magazine subscriptions, but I rarely ever read them as I prefer this format much better. More of this please.
I like this c&d kind of episodes kudos to the presenter, well done mate! Keep 'em coming!
Keep ‘‘em coming Carlos! I agree with you 100%, sometimes the numbers game get overwhelming so it nice to come back down to earth and “stay in you own lane” great video
I picked up an M4 Comp xDrive convertible a couple of weeks ago. LOVE IT! BMW has fixed a lot of problems with the steering feel and xDrive fixes a lot of other stability issues. Kudos to BMW for this new generation of M3/M4!!
I had a 2020 Model 3P. It was fun in the beginning - my first EV and all. It then started to wear on me. Everyone has one it seems. It goes straight great, but that is it. I am not concerned with fuel cost or the environment. If someone does, good for them. I sold it 3 months ago as people are paying insane used car prices for these things, and bought a 2022 M3C. WOW! My drive is now exciting, and taken to a level of fun I could never squeeze out of my Tesla. The sounds, the engagement, the looks. I do not see them everywhere, even in Orange County. I finally enjoy driving again, and love the far better made interior materials, and craftsmanship. Owning the Tesla was like having a mechanical dog, it did a few things great, but without a soul or character, I could not love it.
Great and fair overall analysis. For all those complaining about looks or 0-60 times, you're missing the bigger picture of how rapidly this type of vehicle (manual sports sedan) is evaporating from the market, and that we should be thankful BMW still makes it. When we're all driving single-speed EVs in ten years and bragging about -- how quiet the motors are? how good the autonomous mode is? -- I suspect drivers will look back more fondly on the mechanical texture and engagement that comes with a car like this, warts and all. Between the alternatives of a more raw, unrefined Mustang, a lower spec WRX, or a princely yet less practical GT3, the M3 is really the goldilocks in the market. The CT4-BW is likely the closest real competitor, though even it seems a touch smaller and less refined overall, even if the dynamics are top notch.
The Alfa Giulia QV betters both the Caddy and this BMW in driving feel and competence.
@@rlsedition Not sure how you measure "competence", but the M3/M4 are faster around the 'Ring and at VIR. And the Giulia melted its brakes last time C/D tested it, which doesn't strike me as particularly competent.
@@shahaknagiel2845 The current BMW M3/M4 are certainly fast, but since I'm not racing or searching for seconds at the 'Ring, that doesn't matter all that much to me. What I do know is that those cars are butt ugly and the Giulia is not. And I've put my money where my mouth is - I drive a Giulia.
I thought this video was gonna be more of the same information but I was wrong and I thoroughly enjoyed this! Thank you Carlos!
Very well said when talking about ex's being faster so its freeing. Fully agree
Loving this new review format
Carlos is why I’m here.
Awesome video with great insight. I really felt like I was getting a 1 on 1 evaluation of the car with a manual and not just some video with a bunch of drag races and benchmark numbers. Excellent review!!
Carlos giving C&D a second life
I like the look of those tires NOT being rubber bands way more than the current style.
Totally agree. I'm going to buy this sme car and spec it with the standard wheels, which is used here.
Very well put - driving, was always about.... driving. Nowadays with the tech and media overload on everything people have turned enthusiasm for cars into shopping sheets instead of happiness. If you like to drive something and it makes you smile, youre on the right track 😀
Nice review. Excellent spec - I like the look of smaller rims and “beefy” tire profiles.
Love love this video, Carlos! You bring such a calm and appropriate mindset to this vehicle. I'm definitely in the sporty yet family fun sedan group. And you're completely right, nowadays EVs are pulling insane hp figures but it's all about the drive and the driver's preference. I absolutely love this M3 and I am excited for the future of this vehicle.
Every driver should treat their car like this!.. just enjoy the feedback your car has to you and the road.
Hopefully the refresh brings a different grill design
Love the slow motion shots
I know it’s so minor but Carlos you’re a saint for the smaller wheel comment. The sport rims on that car make me physically uncomfortable. It makes those rims look like they’re seconds from shattering at any point.
Yeah that's bordering on sacrilege nowadays
And even if the wheel remains intact, the low-profile tire might not.
@@sketchpv3080 In a major metro area (NYC in my case), wheel and tire insurance is a must. I opted to get 19' on my M550i and a set on non-runflats. Otherwise in 2-3 years you can go through 5-6 flats and a couple of bent rims..
Great video 👍🏻
Great video!
I have a 2004 330Ci ZHP…I love my car. Ppl ask to buy it off me all the time.✨
That M3 comes in an outstanding colour option. My BMW 3 is a classic grey, in need of a paint job.
Lets go Carlos!
I absolutely adore Isle of Man green!!!
Great great video!
The State of this M3 is on point ! I am with you Carlos, as always. I have always enjoyed your reviews and perspectives. Happily keeping my N55 F30 manual as my daily... powerful enough to get me into plenty of trouble with the law...
More than powerful enough!
And unreliable enough…
@@gigi9467 it's unreliable if you don't maintain it... Mine is at 108k miles and ready for another 10 years of service... Just have to care for it if you want it to last... Nothing magic about it.
@@lmc333 thats what bmw owners say what they leave out is that the maintenance is super expensive and that its not the engine or tranny usually that fail is the electronics and everything else believe me i seen it, german car may reach 100k which a japanes car is just barely getting started and its cheaper to maintain.
@@notadoctor2598 not that stupid yo buy them but family has owned many 3 series and great cars until about 50k miles after that electronics start taking a shit and not pass smog on a few of them, i was stupid enough to buy a ford, but thought it would be slightly better than a german but i was wrong lol sticking to japanese
Learned my lesson
This review was the gentlest way to say “it’s aight”.
Great review. I am ordering the same car and was considering the optional rims, but now I am convinced to get what I am already paying for- the standard rims and tires. Like he said, I like more of that sidewall and this more "black." Makes the car look meaner I think!
Save the manuals!!!!!!!
Carlos = 👍🏼
Reminds me of my friend, Ugh Lee
You'll get used to it. Remember when Audi came out with that giant front grill, like some bottom-feeding fish? Maybe you don't, but it was hideous. But now it's normal. That's just how fashion works.
@@GlennC789 Yep. Just wait until the NEXT fashion emergency. This look may not be as easy on the eyes as the classic lines of the E39, but there's no doubt it's an incredible driving machine. And yes, you get used to -- and maybe even find yourself starting to admire some parts of -- the looks.
@@shahaknagiel2845 Absolutely. New things come out. Old people like me say they're hideous, or ungodly, or whatever, and ten years later everybody accepts them as normal. Either new people are fools, or old people are idiots, or fashion and culture evolve.
Agree with base MT. If you really want an actual track car, it's probably not going to be a brand new sedan anyway. If you want a fun road car with a back seat, this is more than enough performance. Why pay more?
Carlos is the best
& how is the steering feel if you switch away from comfort mode?
I actually love it now lol. Something I thought I never would say
I wish that the income of wage’s kept up with the annual rate of inflation because at one point the 1995 E36 BMW M3 costed only $35,000. Adjusted for inflation, that M3 would costs around $65,000 in 2022 Money USD. It was only $3,000 more expensive than a contemporary 3 series. And from this year alone from 2021 to 2022 there is currently 8% annual inflation and it is still rising.
95 E36 was closer to about 45k ) And that's with Vader manual seats (no lux package) and 5sp. I got mine from the original owner and he kept the sticker.. My 2nd Avus Blue M3 (yes, had two identical) was an auto, and I believe it was also around the same price... Maybe some dealers had deep discounts and prices varied around the US...
@@dens6960 maybe a fully loaded one, but not the starting point. My 2003.5 E46 M3 was $47k brand new.
Great video!! . Do you know the starting price for the M3 base model ?
Mine fully Specs 101K. I believe the base start at 70+
I love high profile tires 🔥🔥🔥
Good review. Please consider removing background music. 🙏
ordered last nov, still haven't got it yet
a face only a mother could love
I think 2022 is the sweet spot for the M3. Xdrive and without the new screen
Hey Carlos, some of us enjoy options and road feel. We don't all live in places like Michigan where the roads are terrible.
I get you are trying to appeal to the purists, but times have changed. Let those of us that enjoy options experience them.
Been driving my cars since I purchased my 1996 Estoril blue E36 M3!...I can't get over the front end of the current M3/M4🤕. Ps. I want an M5 CS. Ps. Definitely buying the new GR Corolla.
I just wish I could afford an M3.
Why did BMW discontinue manuals in their 3 series?
Biggest mistake (other than the beaver grille) was not putting the Manual in the Competition
Great review! Eagerly awaiting my M3 competition xDrive to replace my current F82 M4 competition (which I do love, but ready to get back into 4-doors + excited about xDrive performance). Price is honestly similar, and even the xDrive can be specced cheaper than the outgoing F8x generation, but if you want those carbon bucket seats or full leather (or the CCBs and exterior carbon pack - neither of those two I personally specced), it does reach over $90k in the US with all the packages checked. But I find that even the outgoing C63S is (or was, since I don’t think mercedes is offering new ones) and similarly specced Audi RS5s are the same. The Guilin QF is depreciating like an absolute boulder, and buying new right now (I hear a nice refresh is coming) you’re buying the tech of what seems to be a 10 year old car.
Get behind the wheel of a CT4-V Blackwing if you can. It's stellar.
@@CarlosLago No AWD option for the Blackwing, is there? Performance is definitely there, but I just much prefer the interior of the BMW, which is where I'll be 90% of the time. The bucket seats and full leather and carbon interior just look so sexy and premium! :)
BS, SaMaster. The Alfa Giulia QV is only a "10-year-old car" for those who prioritize infotainment capability over vehicle capability. OBTW, the Giulia came out in 2017, not 2012. If you can stand the appearance of your BMWs, you really are a fan-boy of the brand. Yuk-k-k.
@@rlsedition I know *when* the Giulia came out, that doesn't mean it wasn't behind in tech back then. Thanks for making a personal comment and assuming you know anything about me behind an internet persona. I won't stoop so low. The F8x platform M3/4 held its own and I think beat the Giulia QV on the track (sure, maybe it's a tenth of a second slower in a straight line, but whose racing streetlight to streetlight in Beverly Hills (hint: nobody should be). The new G8x platform demolishes the outgoing QV. Maybe you meant "vehicle character" rather than "capability." The BMW as, or more, "capable," however, you are probably right in that the QV has better driving "feel." But that's 1 out of 100 factors. I don't want to buy a used car, and the depreciation on the QV is BAD, really bad, where the BMW will hold its value. Looks are subjective, and I like them, especially the interior. I'll be inside the car 90% of the time, and the current Giulia's interior is dated and not my cup of tea. I'm in the market for a car now, not in 1-2+ years waiting on a refresh, and I think the M3 is currently the best all around performance (non-EV) sedan on the market for the price, period.
@@SaMaster18 You'll get beat "streetlight to streetlight" by any garden variety Tesla Model 3 Performance, but so what? I'd like to keep my driver's license and focus my shenanigans to the Smokies and my Ducati.
As I probably mentioned before, the M3 used to be my affordable dream car, but not with this new one. I'd take the Giulia every time over the new (ugly as hell) BMW. OBTW, where's your unequal-length control arm front suspension on that "performance car"? Gee, my Giulia has that and much more of what really counts in a performance sedan. Enjoy your BMW.
The comp doesn’t have any cooling or hardware upgrades…just a Few pounds of extra boost in the tune and an extra cooler for the slushbox. Spot on analysis though, I have this car in manual, and green, and it’s incredible. My wife has a Tesla and it is totally liberating knowing a mom car will dust every tuned performance car on the road in a drag, especially on an unprepped surface. A plaid is fun exactly 3 times, then this car is more fun every time without question
I still can't get over that grille 🤢🤮
I think what carlos is trying to say is miata is always the answer, “inexpensive” simple, reliable, light cheap to run and maintain..
One of the earlier generations of the M3 was my favorite attainable performance car, but no longer. It's not that my expectations have changed, but BMW has, as the Brits say, "lost the plot". The latest M3, even this one, is way larger than it needs to be, which results in in it being heavier as well. To add insult to injury, the exterior and interior are way over the top; some would say it's ugly.
My attainable dream car is now the Alfa Giulia Quadrifoglio and my current ride is the Ti Sport model (now Veloce). I use it almost daily and the blend of chassis competence, real-world performance from the 4-cylinder motor (power + fuel economy) and aesthetics is without reproach.
The Alfa is a pile of junk. Go drive one of these and see if any of your complaints bear fruit
@@brandodurham Your comments have no basis in fact in relation to the actual experience of driving the Giulia. It's a great car and wasn't hit by the "ugly stick" like many BMW models.
How much the BMW m3 AmG
It’s sad to say but this might be the last best M3.
Type r is also a sports sedan
что за диски на ней ?)))
Modern electric vehicles DO NOT dust this M3. The M3 destroys them on drag and track. Did you make this outlandish statement to generate clicks and comments? It worked
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Throw a JB4 on that S58 motor and get over 100+hp more at the motor. The B58 and S58 engines are the new LS1/LS6. If my Lexus IS-F was totaled today I would pick up a brand new M3 Sedan...with an Auto.
You might not need it. These engines are already putting out over 500hp stock... BMW is extremely conservative with their advertised figures.
@@shahaknagiel2845 I don't doubt it for a second. The B58 in my 21 Supra felt way more powerful than they claimed when the car was stock.
@@MisterSkizzels BMW turbo Bhp is about equal to wheel hp. lol, Nothing wrong with that.
How did you like this car compared to the A91 supra?
These M's are their own Almost Super Car level
how can you forget the e46 code!
The performance is fantastic but the looks shouldn’t be so bad on a $100k sport sedan. I’d actually take an x3m competition which I had a blast driving at a bmw event over this. I mean as a rental because I cannot live with 12mpg on a daily. Lol.
I don’t care what the car journalists claim. The front end is awful. I’ve seen it in person and it hasn’t “grown” on me, whoever at BMW designed it should be drug tested.
On a side note, I live in a upper class major metro area where M cars are as common as Toyotas. I see the F80 and F82 previous gen cars all the time. I’ve only seen the G80 and G82 current gen cars three times. People just don’t like this car.
Got the xDrive comp. Fantastic car; had an M5 and RS5 coupe (both current models) and previous M2 - the M3 is the perfect blend of them and better than any one; can’t think of any aspect in which any of the others beats the M3…..except the RS5 and M5 are better looking!
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Any vehicle with a manual isn't going faster than 3.9 to 60, because the shift to second will always cost it half a second, and there's only so much power a manual transmission car will have anyway. You can spend $40k or $400k, the performance to 60 will top out about the same. Unless you are racing at drags for pinks, you really won't notice any great difference in quarters either
1993 McLaren F1 has entered the chat.
@@John_Hoover One in a million, because it can hit 60 without shifting. Stop making my point for me.
Good presentation. What's in the bag tho
Not going to lie, it was difficult avoiding eye to snout contact...
Why doesn’t BMW make a M3 like 2 seat sports car like a Corvette, F type, NSX…?
10:50. No one should be buying manual transmission cars for lap times or speed.
They exist for only one reason. Enjoyment.
You want to have a more than a business relationship with your car
Nothing better than making model 3 performance drivers cry when they get gapped from a dig. RS3 ftw
Lol Carlos 2:37
2 ads before he's stopped talking about models or competitors. Jesus youtube has been ruined.
Edit- You can’t get an automatic in the base model. Only manual. *Come on Car & Driver, basic facts*
Pricing has killed it for me. It was once at least ‘somewhat affordable’.
Love this car! Tesla does not give me the snap and crackle..it shouldn't be mentioned lol
I like Carlos. I don’t like the music.
The biggest problem is the CT4V Blackwing, why wouldn't you take that? It even sounds better.
Because it's a "Caddy."
Does anybody know of anyone who has a modern BMW vehicle that has lasted over 80,000 miles without problems? This is a serious question
My diff went out at 80K on my E92 335i
This is the old argument...."it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow argument", said all dudes with slow cars lol.
I prefer the Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing!
Love the fat tyres
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is that like an acronym or something
EVs are only fast in a straight line. In the real world, the roads are not always straight.
What is it? Bugs Bunny.
Let's be real. The first M3 was really the E36 M3; the E30 M3 was unique, which sounds like a compliment, but isn't. It had a raspy, peaky four-cylinder for reasons of homologation which was far less pleasant to actually drive than the smooth, flexible six-cylinder in the 325i, one of which I personally put over 200k miles on. The E36 was a great car, meaning just an all-around great car, and I believe the real attraction of the M3 started there, rather than with the E30, the vast majority of which are now sitting in "collectors'" garages in fear of collecting additional miles.
M3 originally meant "Motorsport 3-Series" and there's only ever been one generation of that car, the E30. That E30 M3 was only built for homologation reasons (to beat Mercedes in DTM), making it inherently special by default. But when it comes to being a good all-around car, the E30 325i is by far and away the better choice.
BMW learned that when it came to producing every M3 afterward, making each new M3 a hotted-up, more exciting version of the 3-Series. The M3 has become less of a "Motorsport 3-Series" and more "Fast 3-Series," but that doesn't mean there haven't been some excellent M3s over the years (the E46 especially comes to mind).
@@GlennC789 Of course it's awful, it's built for racing, not road driving. But it's special both because of its history and its driving experience, even if it's objectively worse on the road compared to other E30s and later M3s.
@@GlennC789 I don't know if I've ever seen two car enthusiasts agree on something, let alone two car enthusiasts in the UA-cam comments 😅
Hell truly must be freezing over, friend.
I get his argument of appreciating it for what it is, which isn’t something faster than an EV, nor as the best track weapon, but as a great daily driver that’s sporty, BUT it is an $80k+ vehicle. In that sense, it should be fast and good on track. Not the best, but absolutely good enough to put down good times or beat normal vehicles, or else a slow as balls GR86 would be the better car to own, considering it’s under $40k.
So there has to be some importance to the cars ability to do certain things better than others, considering it’s price tag.
The M3 has become a GT cruiser. The ginormous tires keep lap times comparable to the last model but it can't hide the increased size of the vehicle. I cringe watching reviewers flinging the new M3 around the race track. In just a few short years the bushings and suspension bits are gonna give up the ghost because of the increased weight and the car will become loosey goosey. But be that as it may. I'm hanging on to my OG M2.
Man this guy needs some better shoes lol.. who drives an m3 on track with those on? Slight troll Carlos…
EV’s are rarely faster on a track. Too heavy generally. And thats where it matters, thats the everyday driving scale. If its fast around a track, its generally more fun on the everyday twisty normal road.
Who cares about a drag race - Really..? A dragrace does not tell you one thing about how it feels to drive.
Well said
It’s definitely not a pretty car but I’m glad it’s fun to drive. Just don’t ever look back once it’s parked.
Looks better in person, m3 in gray looks amazing.
I'd rather have a Giulia Quad.
Well, I was going to say that the car looks like Giulia Quad before I saw your comment but, after seeing the cover.
Bmw for me. The alfa is nice
Excellent taste, man 🍾
And your Alfa mechanic will appreciate the extra work.
@@shahaknagiel2845
Have my 3rd Alfa now, 150.000 km on my current one, zero problems
This car embodies the modern performance ICEV conundrum. It's slower than an EV in a bench race and on the street. But it's heavier, number and uglier than its predecessors (and even the current regular 3 series). The sport compacts seem more logical to me as they aren't so much subjectively worse than their predecessors, and have performance that's actually accessible on real roads. Just seems like BMW has run out of ideas for performance cars. I'm looking forward to this becoming an EV because then it will at least be something different in a meaningful way.
Voting with dollars by not buying. Goofy front end. Will wait or buy the model right before this hideous disaster.
Dunno why, but in that color and all the dark plastics it doesn't look as hideous as in silver or other lighter shades. Or the iX has put new bars for ugly. But man, I hope BMW moves away from this design direction.
And it's not just BMW. When we get by this angry-insect thing and back to pretty cars?
The effect is even greater in person. The green, 18-inch black wheels, and black trim look great.
@@CarlosLago Kudos on moderate wheel size. It was a bit silly reading for years C&D breaking ridiculous sized wheels on potholes.
But it still doesn't look good, just not hideous.
ps. Hopefully you can get us more C&D content on video. That means more adult like take on automotive stuff. There are enough over excited teenagers (and DeMuro) doing silly stuff.
Hideous things. Almost revolting. Glad to have ditched bmw a few years ago before they prioritized catering to chinese preferences (guess who loves big pointless grills...).
You're not alone 👍🏻