RE: Ashraf Ali Thanwi and the Strange World of Deobandis | Mufti Yasir | Honestly Speaking | EP 1
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- In this video we have a one on one conversation with Mufti Yasir Nadeem Al Wajidi about his journey in deoband and Mufti sahab also dives into the allegations put against Deoband and Moulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi by The Mad Mamluks podcast.
Twitter: / honestly_sp
aslamualikum
We reached out to Sheikh Amir to be a guest on our podcast but unfortunately he declined to join
We ask you to come on our show this Saturday night. Slide me a dm for details.
@@Abu_Vibes
What show?
Understandable.
Islam is hatred and perversion.
@@Abu_Vibes
Your son Ismails show?lol
This was desperately needed.
Thank you for defending the honor of Ml. Ashraf Ali Thanwi.
lol honor
This is all about sheikh Tanvi
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How can u defend a guy,who had promoted adult males having relationship with prepubescent females. Him himself having a ten year old bride. 👈 all his credibility is wiped out by his child-bride desirous behaviour.
@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 have u any proof and if it is happened I don't know about it then what was the age of hazrat Thanvi?
@@ikwrites08 .Hadrat Tanvir was likely double the girls age.the girl was married to Tanvir nephew.The girl was a daughter in law.
Tanvir would see nothing wrong with his actions,because even Hadrat Umar is claimed to have married muhammads s.a.w grand-daughter.
I am not follower of the deobandi school but I was very impressed with the way Sh Yasir defended the deobandi school with evidences and did not resort to any sectarian counterattack but instead preached unity and deep understanding between the various muslim schools and movements before criticism is done.
Also a good lesson from this is to refrain from making opinion based on info from just one side even if its a trusted source. I personally like Sh. Amir from Mad Mamluks but this video highlights how his understanding likely has gaps. May Allah guide all the du'aat.
Masha Allah it was really needed! There are not many ulama in the online world who could know such baseless allegations against and defend the ulama of Deoband. Jazakallah khair!
Jazakumullah khair brother Hamas and Mufti sahab for this. I will paste the link to this episode on to mad mamluks video comments and would request them to address the points made in this video.
This episode was a great example of respectful communication. Thats why scholars are scholars. Jazakallahkhair once again
This video was terrific ما شاءالله. I would wish for Mawlana Mufti Yasir Sahib to do a series on the elders of Deoband and their efforts to propagating this religion and their contributions to Islamic academia. I enjoyed listening to Mufti Sahib's thoroughness and the resources that he used in this video. جزاكم الله خيرا
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This deconstructs the
TJ
Where can I find the video
Masha'Allah as Mufti Yasir Sahib said: with 'ilm you need tarbiyat. So true. Its so easy to claim we've heard x, y, z behind closed doors and are the only witnesses to it and its not even taught to 1000's of students, but to back up such claims requires proof. Even if we were to agree that the luminaries are not teaching it to the students but only teaching them haqq despite holding different views, then even still the objective of spreading haqq is accomplished.
JazakAllahu Khair wa BaarakAllahu Feek, I listened to the entire episode. I hope that all the Brothers are able to appear on a joint podcast even if they disagree with each other.
May Allah taala reward you for clerifying the issues.
The format was awesome and the quality was good as well. Looking forward to more episodes!
Mufti saab looks very similar to Shaikh Faraz Rabbani. Allah bless and preserve them both. امين
Lmao me too I was confused at first.😂😂
Subhan Allah true! Maybe sounds similar and the way of speaking is also similar !
Alhamdulillah. Jazakallah to both the host and mufti saab. Hopefully this will shut the critics including the deranged Abu layth's allegations against the Ulama of deoband.
Jazakumullahu Khair for this. It is very appreciated. Mufti Yasir is truly a fountain on knowledge.
Wa-ʿalaykumu-s-Salām wa-Raḥmatullāhi wa-Barakātuh
Alhamdulillah! Good refutation of the mad mamluks video! It would have been better if the causes of what leads many of the youth to such type of thinking is addressed, namely Salafism, Liberalism, etc and their deviances! Jazakallahu Khairan!
Golden words:
People May Have Knowledge, But If Tarbiya Is Missing Then They Will Cause A Lot Of Problems To The Community.
to be fair, the shaykh on the mad mamluks pod did mention a lot of the points mentioned. it wasn't as one sided as this makes it seem. he mentioned fiqhi books dont need to provide evidence as they're for common people an that fiqhi books cover everything. many topics of which aren't comfortable simply because all need to be discussed sp people understand
His English is flawless mashallah. His English sounds like he was born in America.
Masha Allah mufti saab. Really loved your responds. May Allah tala reward you immensely
Sounds good to hear the two imminent religious scholars.Jazakumillah !
I went to Deoband for two final years from Banda,
completed the Fazil course in 1990.
The main real thing want to say about Deobandiat what I have considered, is the purity of Moulana Qasim Nanoutvi which is deeply rooted in every scholar of the education center according to their capabilities.
May Allah shawer over his grave. Aameen.
Masha'Allah u also from Chicago?
@@muhammadprarie8819 Nup brother !
this is from India in fact.
@@qasmibook8710
Oh your from India,mashallah
@@muhammadprarie8819 yes brother !
thanks a lot.
@@qasmibook8710
Mufti Yasir sb lives in Chicago,he is the grandson of Mouana Abdullah Saleem sb,who is one of the last students of Noulana Husain Ahmad Madani,Moulana Saleem father was Moulana Muhammad Naeem sb,Shaikh ul Hadees of Deoband,Mufti Sb teaches at IIE Elgin the Madrasah of his Grandfather in Chicago
Thank you for keeping it objective and academic and not belittling anyone. Allah reward you all. Ameen.
Islam belittles non-Muslims. So don't act like you are against it.
@@LogansWarning
So does Christianity and Judaism,get out of here
@@muhammadprarie8819 deflection. Jesus wasn't a terrorist like Muhammad was.
@@LogansWarning Jesus was a terrorist in the eyes of Romans and Jews just like you xtians consider Muhammad(saw) a "terrorist", time for you to get lost.
@@imaduddeen4269 save the spin. Mohammad was a madman who had limbs cut off and eyes burned out. I am not religious. Now make me get lost. I don't take orders from you.
Mufti Yasir Nadeem al Wajidi is love
May Allah bless him
Whenever he talks he talks with reference and proof 😊
Why would these people attempt to insult and slander a scholar from the past? He has gone and left his legacy May Allah bless him
JazaakAllahu khairan shaikh.
Proud to be ahlesunnat Wal jammat hanafi deobandi.
No bro only deobandi...
You are not Ahl e sunnah
@@Muhammad786..barelvi😂
Salaam please do a series on clearing misconceptions about deobondi ulama and the books they have written as the brelvis have made many slanderous accusations.
Jazakallah
Proud to be deoband I proudly say that we are true ahlesunnat Wal jammat the only Sufi in India who don't go for shirk.
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Seeking help from prophet p.b.u.h is not Shirk ...
According to deoband
Deoband cannot trace their history more than 100 years back .
I have studied, there are two things which are essential for every religious scholars.
1/ To learn Ilme mohammadi
2/ to achieve Noore mohammadi.
first is a quràn wa hadees
second is to get from sufees of the ummah.
both of them had been taken by Sahaba from our prophet pbuh.
This spritual series is being transferred from generation to generation eg.from sahaba to tabaeen and tabaa taabaeen and so on untill now.
it's a reality which cannot be refuted.
I'm not sure the sahabas knew about sufism nor did they care about fulani riwayaat, which the hadith books we learned are composed of. They had a very different islam than deoband. I dont need qualification or authority to say this. Allah gives ne rights in Quran. Thanks
@@c5quared626 Not a matter either you accept it or not,
the only matter is that are being continued what I have elaborated.
And all famous scholars were suffi e.g., Hasan Basri, Sufyan Sauri, Malik Bin Dinar, Imam Ghazali, Maulana Roomi, Khwaja Moinuddin chishti, Shah Waliullah Delhi, moulana qasim nanoutvi etc etc all were Sufi.
The first one I just told, was a student of hazraat Ali ra, the fourth caliph, as well as he was one of the mureed of h.Ali ra.
فا عتبروا يا اولي الابصار.
مفتي ياسر- سيف الحق ليس يغمض
Sheikh could you please answer the question about the book talking about burying verses of the quran to create seperation between man and woman, this is something that I need clarification about this matter, In aamal e quran by Ashraf Ali Thanvi, to me this seems like sihr. Could you please shed light on this jzk
Beautifully said
Jazakallahu Khayran Ahsanul Jaza
MashaALLAH you doing good job
Alhamdulilah
its good that you guys care for the truth then regarding the barelvi deobandi differences, there is a lot of false info, 'barelvis' do not use the term alim ul ghayb for ghairullah, and there are many strawmans for the other beliefs as well, i made this vid showing the 'barelvi' view on ilm ul ghayb using texts and videos ua-cam.com/video/Z-5vtfZSu-M/v-deo.html
Mashallah a very good podcast. Please continue this defence. Amazing!!!! You have cleared a lot.
Jazakallah Khairan! Alhamdulillah Facts over conjecture!
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
ما شاء الله
There's the ghustaake rasool regarding ilme gayb. Is this correct?
I think these answers are going to make the Mamlukes very mad. Or, may be they have gone mad. After all, your name impacts your mindset.
Whose name does impact that ?
Very true. If you name yourself after a random village in India over the athar and the salaf, you're gonna be fanatical and go to crazy lengths to defend them.
@@AB-xx7hy I guess that was your lame attempt at comedy?
Great job!
Dayobaand. ? Who r they?
Is it a school of muslim thout of school ? How r they
JazakhAllahu khairan brothers but please be careful about that joke about seeing jibreel alaisallam and going miraj. Im worried that could count as unintentional mocking deen.
you dont give the fiqh books to little girls the way behisti zewat is intended to be given
For the record, the guy you guys are attacking for not pronouncing names properly does that on purpose. He is constantly doing the same for Arab scholars and words. I don't know what is being discussed here so we'll see, but I just wanted to point out that you guys are taking a guy who is joking seriously
This is all well and good but how can you defend thanvi sb book amliay aur taveezat where he talks about the recipie to separate husband wife by plant stone in grave
Brother this was never said and a fabricated lie. The words used were ill feeling and malice between two people. And he never mentioned any shari'i relations mother child husband wife brother sister. Nor were any jinns grids weird language was used only ayat from quran. So a summary he never mentioned seperation nor did he mention any family relation. My souce is Amaal e quran. Please read yourself
Reference?
Where the answers. Saying they are not qualified is a stupid answer
Ulama e deoband ☪️❤️
Tell me which medicine is buried under ground? U guys compare his amaliyat to medicine. No medicine is buried underground between two graves. Stop lying to the public. Medicine is not like amaliyat “magic”!
Timestamp for when he said this?
Lol it's not even a famous book, just saying that for properganda so people look to buy it... Typical deobandi language.
Sar Bakaf Sar Buland
Deoband Deoband
These people are more to do with a city in India than they are to do with Islam
अमेरिका के दोनों भी मुफती यासीर नदिम और भी आछे है
Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi (Deobandi) wrote:
"The skins of dogs, monkeys, cats, lions, etc. which become pure after treating them chemically can also be made pure by reciting Bismillah and slaughtering them. This is irrespective of whether they have been treated chemically or not."
"Kutta, Bandar, Billi, Sher Wagherah Jinki Khaal Banane Se Paak Ho Jaati Hai, Bismillah Keh Kar Zibah Karne Se Bhi Khaal Paak Ho Jaati Hai, Chaahein Banaayi Ho Ya Be-Banaayi Ho!"
[Bahishti Zewar, Kis Paani Se Wuzoo Karna Aur Nahana Durust Hai Aur Kis Paani Se Nahi (Suitable and unsuitable water for Wudu and Ghusl), Mas'alah No.23]
P.S. This ruling has nothing to do with Islam!
DEEN E ISLAM TEACHES US EVERYTHING
Salman reported: The idolaters said, “Indeed, your companion teaches you everything, even he teaches you how to defecate!” Salman said, “It is so. The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, prohibited us from removing excrement using the right hand, or while facing the direction of prayer. The Prophet prohibited us from using dung or bones to do so, and he said not to use less than three stones.” Sahih Muslim
@@namirjavad6131 That's true, but what Ashraf Ali Thanvi said above is baseless and alien to Islam.
Clearly don't know anything abt Fiqh or Usool al-FIqh
Im not a deobandi but why are u distorting books? Did u read in context? And u didnt qoute the full passage
@@WayOfJannah - if only you ppl had a brain cell.... just a bit of common sense would do......
"The basic ruling with regards to leather is that, with the exception of pig-skin, the skin of all other animals is considered to be pure (tahir) when it goes through the process of tanning, even if the animal is unlawful to consume (such as a lion), or the animal was not slaughtered according to the rules of Shariah. Pig, however, is considered to be completely filthy; hence its skin remains impure (najis) even after tanning.
Imam al-Quduri (Allah have mercy on him) states:
“Any skin which has been tanned has become clean, hence prayer is valid on it, and wudu from it - except the skin of a pig and human (m: human skin due to its honour).” (al-Lubab fi sharh al-Kitab, 1/47)
Therefore, it will be permitted for one to wear jackets, coats, shoes, use sofas and keep a wallet made from the skin of all animals except a pig. It will not be permitted to wear shoes or clothing from pigskin, and prayer in such items would be invalid.
Thus, it will be permitted for you to purchase leather sofas, as long as you avoid leather made from pigskin."
And Allah knows best
[Mufti] Muhammad ibn Adam
Darul Iftaa
Leicester , UK
Say the group in Afghanistan that is ideologically descendant from Deoband, why be ambiguous? It’s the taliban, right?
This name/group did NOT exist before the Russian Invasion.
@@mikhan5191 okay? When did I say it did? This deobandi-descending group started after the Russians were expelled and the Afghans were already in a civil war.
Taliban basically just means students.
However, msm has associated it with negative connotations same way they vilify and demonise Islam and Muslims. It’s brainwashing.
Evil forces at play want annihilate all of the true tribes of bani israel (pathaan, levant, kash) places of exile are mostly what is today Afghanistan, and Pakistan (the Muslim majority of peoples I believe who will conquer Jerusalem under Prophet Jesus a.s consisting of Bani Ishaq) and re-capture Istanbul.
Pashtuns are the descendants of Benjamin. Nimrod exiled most of the lost tribes to what is now Afghanistan at present. King Saul use to rule to what is now the Afghanistan/Pakistan region.
However, the z peoples are running a counterfeit end time scenario to mimic what will happen in the future since they too believe in Islamic prophecies (even though they reject Islam they know it’s the truth). The Pashtuns of Afghanistan are from one of the lost tribes of Isreal. The z peoples will be destroyed by mostly Bani Ishaq.
The z people are very cunning like Iblis they know the uprising of Imam Mahdi's main supporters will be mainly from Afghanistan (Islamic prophecies). No power can change destiny which Allah has decreed. So they formed them factions like Northern Alliance and a counterfeit Taliban (cars, weapons, ammunition, supplies) to conform with the Hadeeths challenging the creator.
The people who are suffering the most (and genocide is being committed against them daily) are the people of Afghanistan. So they think by removing as many as possible of Imam Madhi's main followers. The z peoples, freemasons and Iblis think they can stop his main followers from appearing.
Pashto language also has Semitic roots, including our dress code, city names, family names, alot of customs and traits, culture and laws are almost parallel if not similar to the Prophets and progeny of Bani Ishaq.
"Every Afghan is a Deobandi" - Rahmatullah Hashemi
Deoband is neither sect nor creed it is a Islamic institution. They are the protectors of Deen. History shows this.
In the past thousands of Ulemah fought with ordinary Muslims against the British and there treacherous servants in India. Many of the Deoband group were apprehended by the British. The British hated the Deoband group because they opposed the colonial rule.
السلام علیکم و رحمۃ اللہ و برکاتہ حضرت اس کا اردو ترجمہ کر دیا جائے
बहुत ही ज्यादा अमेरिकन एक्सेंट धारण किया हुआ है। फेक एक्सेंट न तो अच्छा लगता है और न ही समझा आता है।
Jurrat ka naam hai Deoband wale
Aali maqam hain Deoband wale
Pretty weak rebuttal.
Mera naam mo kalim Islam ka davat terenig koi taeeyari ho rahi hau
Honestly this was such a weak response. And it’s a shame that you call Shaykh Amir a fool and ignorant. You can’t even pronounce simple words in Arabic. And you also said only certain black magic is kufr.
Timestamp?
This video is more of a dodging bullets than an actual refutation of the accusations made against Ashraf Ali Thanwi, Gangohi and Nanotvi and other scholars of deoband. The only valid refutation was how can you know the ulamah of deoband are practicing black behind closed doors if you’re aware of it. You still have not to provide a valid argument for when Ashraf Ali taught the separation between 2 people. You also have not provided the foundation upon which Ashraf Ali made the statement about controlling jinns after specific dhikr for 40 days. When it came to wahdatul wujood, you claimed someone needs to be an expert practitioner of ilm up kalam. That was a very strange act on your end, you should know that ilmul kalam comes from Abu Mansoor Al maturidi, not the sahaba nor the tabiyen nor the tabiet tabiyen. Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal was extremely against Ibn Kullab and his students were extremely opposed to the practitioners of ilmul kalam. Ilmul kalam is what they have been speaking against. Abu Hanifa Ra never practiced Ilmul Kalam. Neither did Imam Malik nor Imam Shafi. All you did was refute their ability to pronounce some pakistani or urdu names, which is irrelevant to the refutation and semantics. In fact, if your arabic was tested, the language in which the quran was revealed and the highest level of Islamic literature is based on, you will stutter and make mistakes upon mistakes. I can say with almost certainty you can not hold a decent level of conversation in arabic. That’s my opinion and I might be wrong. The host himself was biased out of respect and has done a poor job in presenting the claims/questions to the deobandi man. I will not call him or anyone involved in the practice of ilmul kalam a scholar or mufti or sheikh. Please do not try to bring up An Nawawi or Ibn Hajar, they are not from the Ashaiira and it has been proven many times. Refute claims that was posed instead of laughing things off. Or let me know so I can conduct the questionnaire myself and ask the way these questions need to be asked. This was so biased.
stop worshipping scholars
Can you show us mufti sahib doing this act? If not please don't make statements like this.
Lolz... Trying to defend the treacherous record of deoband
brelvi idiocy alert.....
@@mikhan5191 sounds like a quote from Ahle Sunnah scholars when talking about deobandi "scholars"... But of course you've typically fabricated it, in line with most of deobandi teachings 🤣🤣🤣
@@razwanfarooq8776 - brelvis are the experts on Fabrications....
@@mikhan5191 So you don't know what to say but just repeat... And this is the 'famed' school of deobandi thought. Lolz
@@razwanfarooq8776 - everybody is aware of brelvi fabrications so there is no need for me to repeat them but if you insist upon it, I can oblige....
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