25 Year Brain Drain Finished With Our Salafi Brothers | Dr. Mufti Abdur-Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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- In recent decades many attacks have been launched against the concept of taqlid [following a school of Islamic law]. Opposition has ranged from being mild with degrees of acceptance to malicious attacks. Certain extreme elements have gone so far as to brand those who follow a madhhab [school] as mushrik [polytheist]. Much of the opposition has been a result of misunderstanding the realities of this concept.
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Brother Mangera i started to follow you few months ago, i am revert from Finland 21 years ago...seaking knowlege and i love your style to tell clearly things that i understand Islam better...you are a pearl to give knowledge Alhamdulillah
Sheikh Mangera *
Alhamdulillah sister. We are fortunate to have one of the best and proper scholar in this time. My advice would be to stick to his lectures and guidance.
Indeed Shaykh is a great Scholar ❤
@@TheTemporary1ne he is not a scholar
@@FazsterHQkeep crying
I’m a Salafi and have wasted 25 years with them. I now have to relearn everything from the detail matters all over. I’m researching and asking Allah to guide me more and more. You Shaikh have clarified so many matters to me now. So too Abu Aaliyah. May Allah bless you and your family all in this life and the next. I believe it’s never too late. I hope I can re-learn properly now.
Alhamdulilah brother I was young when I started with them but it only lasted a few years. I saw through their character and hypocrisy.
I caught them many times lying about "ijmaa" and thats when I knew they have a gang mentality.
Not wasted bro. I'm sure you've gained a lot of knowledge which you can rechannel
Say: I 'was' a salafi and continue with your journey to the Hereafter
May Allah bless you and grant you tawfeeq. He can bring levels in an instant coming on you. Just always think positive about Him
Weak
I was freed from 25 years of Wahhabiya influence on one Rabiul Awwal month الحمد لله
الحمد لله
Alhamdullilah!!
SUBhANALLAH GLORY HOLYNESS BE ALLAH
Well done. You did this without pointing fingers, ridiculing, in the most respectable manner to make your point.
This video is a lie and sitting up hate.
I've been Salafi for almost 30 years and we have never been taught that we can't follow a madhab. Rather, we are only taught (from imam Abu hanifa, imam Malik, imam Ahmed, and imam Shafi's words), that we must not be fanatical about the scholar / imam we learn from.
@headfones1000 Exactly. It is funny (actually sad) that those who know nothing about Salafiyyah get on podiums and give hours long speeches misguiding people or spreading lies.
One can catch him right away when he started asking people about naming 5 scholars, blah blah.
And what about other Madahib as there were more than 4? Zahiri, etc.
Was Imam Abu Hanifa a Hanafi?
Was Imam Malik a Maliki?
Was Imam Shafi a Shafii?
Was Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal a Hanbali? No.
They were all Salafis. Alhamdulillah
@@salikidrees2968 how? You guys are a misguided sect, you associate body parts with Allah, and commit lots of problems within the ummah. You guys are cursed
@@headfones1000have you watched the entire video? This brother was in the Salafi dawah
@@salikidrees2968have you watched the entire video? This brother was in the Salafi dawah
Mufti is a thoroughly decent person , I had the pleasure of being in a group that was alongside mufti on hajj in 2019.
I am just in love how Dr mufti Abdur Rahman sahab damad barkatuhum settled the issue with intellect peace and love ❣️ jazakallah for bringing such a peaceful lecture to us
Took him 17years to realise that "Salafi's" laymen do not take directly from Quran & Sunnah directly without using Scholars. Issue remains there is no obligation to stick to any mathab. It is different to for a learned person who actually understand the usool of the mathab and follows that usool. However there is no proof for a laymen to adopt any mathab exclusively. Laymen asks someone of knowledge he trusts. Does not matter if he is Hanbali Shafi Hanafi or maliki or thahiri. Sadly I find this type of basic misinformation by someone who seems to be familiar with salafis for over 2 decades to be so clueless. Grins and ridicules. I don't think this man is someone I would take seriously.
The deobandis who think about donkeys in their salah
Subhanallah this was such a great lecture. I have encountered a lot of the Salafi - non madhabis in the last decade and this is the best discourse I have listened to yet. Mat Allah reward you all.
May Allah increase you in baraka. Amazing, timely, relevant talk which we all need to listen to. Jazaakallahu khairan dear Sheikh
JazaakALLAH Sheikh, the voice of common sense prevails Maa Sha ALLAH
ma sha Allah. your fiqh al-imam book brought me so much clarity. i used to be salafi - as a revert myself and i’ve noticed too that for born muslims who decide to begin practicing - especially if their families aren’t, they tend to follow salafiyyah. i think this is… for both parties due to ignorance and also the accessibility of resources from salafi funded projects.
but alhamdullilah, you help me with my islam. such a beautiful book that is concise yet it provides the necessary detail when needed
My dear brother, I'm still in shock how I wrote on the cover of my copy in black permanent marker many years ago that this book needs refuting LOLLLLLLLL I thank Allah for having opened my eyes
@@GenerationSalaahudDeen Muhammad the Brit? Asalamu alaikum, im Ayyub the Brit haha😅
and trust me bro. a dear brother recommended me the book and i remember opening it looking for faults but subhan’Allah it had none!
may Allah guide u back to truth
@@zatheonladdie5715 lolllll I would go all in with the Hanafi Madhab but I've got used to the Hanbali Madhab a lot. Otherwise if I could turn back the clock I'd stick with it, very strong and solid, the Big voluminous works of the Hanafis take you into a different world, the early Madhabs never relied only on Hadeeth alone, never, they also used the Fiqh and Fatawas of the sahaaba and tabi'een and Maraseel Hadeeth and so much more. I'm going to keep adding comments for extra points as I can see fanatics here.
@@GenerationSalaahudDeen
Over simplification of complex issues!
The hanafi fiqh has some core fallacies/disagreement with the Muhaddiseen (including maalik, Shafiee and Ahmad), such as the Ahnaaf reject the zyadti of Hadith over the hukm of Qur'aan (a pass for hadith rejectors), the Ahnaaf consider istihsaan as a valid legal proof, they also are not in favour of hadees being a proof in itself rather it has to comply with the core principles which their fuqaha have agreed upon! Else the hadeeth is explained away or considered as abrogated!
(Another pass for hadeeth rejectors)
This is the reason why the muhaqiqeen among the hanafees such as Ibne Hummam, Imam zailai, shah Waliullah dehlavi and Abdul hayy lakhnavi have rejected these principles of Ahnaaf and have declared Imam Abu Haneefa free of these fabricated usool!
Ref: Hujjatullahil baaligha of Shah Waliullah dehlavi Rahimahullah.
As for the mutaqadimeen of the hanafee mazhab they all were ahlul hadith, the foremost among them being Qazi Abu Yousuf Rahimahullah.
Assalamu Alaykum from Kurdistan region. I love you for the sake of Allah
Whoever titles these videos knows how to get us to stand on our tippie toes, maa shaa Allah. I am on the edge of my seat waiting for this one to drop إن شاء الله.
Mash'Allah this is one of the best lectures I've heard on madhabs. ❤❤❤
I think we have made fiqh dry of taqwa.
One thing ALL of us, whether scholars or normies, have to make sure to remember and consider always, is that at the end of it all, ALLAH is the one who will judge whether we have most sincerely chosen an fiqh opinion or we have chosen, instead, based on our desires.
We have to fear ALLAH when choosing the best path to ALLAH and even more so when we judge others on their fiqhi choices and opinions.
Let's all come back to taqwa of ALLAH.
1:04:35 Well said!
Make the Sunnah of grooming, dressing well and looking good great again!
Brother new to the channel. I love u for the sake of Allah. You are what the ummah needs. Peace
I think many of us have had exposure to Salafi dawah. Alhamdulillah even for that, because there was a long time when that was the only way to learn our Salah, etc. Our mistakes made us learn to ask questions and take corrections, alhamdulillah. I find that many Muslims who were handed the deen and didn't have a struggle arriving at the correct way are willing to throw it away instantly for the next alphabet agenda or remove hijab, or excuse riba, etc. Alhamdulillah for our struggles to understand madhahib and work on ourselves.
What mistake was exposed of salafis
@just_akh4694 I'm not sure about the new generation, but in our time, there was a lot of accusations of kufr and nifaq of people "not in the salafi da'wah and the ideas that only the Salafi dawah is on the saved sect and anyone following a madhhab would be in hell. Many self appointed imams that never even studied under a proper chain.
Sheikh, go to the valley of Hadramawt, Yemen. That’s the practical of the sunnah. I believe that’s the last remaining place on earth practicing all the Sunnah. It is also the specific place Sayiddina Abu Bakr As-Siddique made 3 specific duas for the inhabitants and its land. A truly hidden gem. It is known as the “land of the auliya.”
Also a place called dammaj in Yemen has the same qualities
Isn’t dammaj supported by Saudi government?
Not really, many are misguided there
This is so timely. May Allah reward all the shaykhs and everyone who made this happen
The great scholars of haheeth never never ever made chapter headings to make their books into books of Fiqh. It was clearly only to make it easy to organise the many hadeeth. Imam Abu Zur’ah at-Raazi said I sat with Ahmed ibn Hanbal and would mention to him a chapter then he would start mentioning all the narrations with their chains for that chapter. The books of Fiqh were set up to put all the thousands of Fiqh issues into organised chapters. Their sentences summarised all the proofs such as verses and many hadeeth and narrations of the Sahaaba and Taabieen and so on.
Fascinating and insightful! Consider doing similar for the schools of creed
alhamdulillah a beneficial and eye opening talk
Subhan Allah thanks to allah s.w.t that we have scholars of islam
@58:21 The book mentioned is 'Durra al-Bahiyya' - This is also available in English titled 'Comprehensive-Islamic-Jurisprudence-Sh.-Muhammad-ash-Shawkani-(around 815+ pages); published in Malaysia ...available also in UK through Darus Salaam Books, London Central Mosque). I can provide the soft copies if anyone is interested...
Can u provide me with soft copy. JAZAK ALLAH
Yes please, it would be great
@@niyasusman2657 Give me an email to send you to.
I am also interested brother
Could you pls. provide me with a soft copy too, jzk
I listened to this and I have a few things to say:
1. Most of the 'Salafi Fiqh' is based upon the Madhab of Imam Ahmad. And even Shaikh Muhammadi Ibn Abdul Wahhab was Hanbali. However, modern Hanbali scholars like Shaikh Bin Baaz, Uthaimeen, Sa'di, Fawzaan etc go against the Mu'tamad of the Madhab at times and many of the Salafis go back to them to seek Fatwa.
2. A person would teach the Madhab what he learnt. Hence, if there are several students who were in Riyadh, Madeenah and Makkah it is obvious that they would teach Hanbali books. Likewise, many of the scholars like Shaikh Mutlaq Al Jaasir and Shaikh Ahmad Quaimi and Shaikh Aamir Bhajat who offer online programs teach Hanbali Fiqh. So to muscle people into teaching or learning a system they don't know is entirely ridiculous.
3. In terms of Madhahib I believe that those who graduated from Darul Ulooms in the subcontinent NEED to be more tolerant. If one travels to Azhar Masjid all the Madhahib co-exist and that is because the teachers there have knowledge and understanding regarding Fiqh, its nuances and complexities.
4. The main issue is Aqeedah. Abu Haneefah, Shafiee, Malik, Ahmad, Bukhari, Muslim etc. were all upon one Aqeedah. They were neither Maaturidi or Ashari.
Are you implying they were of the wahhabi 3aqeedah
They were all on the Aqeeda of Ahl Sunnah which was the Aqeeda detailed and formulated by Imam Ash'ari. Imam Ash'ari lived later than them. But his and Imam Maturidi's explanation of Creed is that of Ahl Sunnah. These two contemporary Imams formulated the theology just like the four previous Imams formulated the 4 Fiqhi Madhabib.
There is no such thing as Wahhabi Aqeedah. Secondly, the books of the Salaf especially that of Imam Al Laalakaaee where he documented the creed of Imam Al Bukhari, Ali Ibn Madeeni, Sufyaan Ath Thawri, Abu Haatim At Raazi clearly documents the 'Aqeedah of Ahlus Sunnah. And it does not entail philosophy or Kalaam. I recommend that you read those books in sha Allah.
@@drmauroof I'm not convinced imposing a theology or 'aqeeda' by Imam Ashari is in the best interests of Muslims today. You only have to read the 'Cambridge Companion to Classical Islamic Theology' to see how confusing and conflicting the ideas prevelant were in those academic circles over 1000 years ago. As a simple example, is the Qur'aan eternal or created ? Just how does Imam Ibn Hanbli's position become 'correct'? There is no nass to believe in either sides arguemant. No Muslim will be asked about this on the Day of Judgement.
@@MusaMills1
No matter what spin you put on it using names of the actual Salaf that you have no chain/connection to through scholarly transmission isn’t going to help you. Let’s call a spade a spade, yes wahhabi aqeedah
My Heart really moved watching this the school system in the USA really knocked me off my square. Masha ‘Allah I’ve been lead here.
May Allah bless the two noble scholars and increase them in taqwa and ikhlaas
Alhmdl now I understand that the 4 Fiqh Madhabs are just systems and frameworks to study Fiqh and produce Fatwas with extreme amounts of research gone into producing their foundations and then were refined by mountains of top scholars that the Ummah has never seen since centuries. It’s impossible rather foolish to even try in some sort of way to re-invent the wheel. I remember Shaikh I bought your Book about the proofs and the angles for the Prayer before many years and I wrote on it with a permanent black on the front “This book needs refuting and should only be read by students of knowledge”!!! All I did 4 months ago is I turned to Allah SWT and said maybe I’m wrong. I’m sure actually I’m wrong because can the Salafis, especially the Madkhali which I was close to, how can they be Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama’ah when they don’t do any Jama’ah as they keep splitting up more and more amongst themselves not to forget they split the Ahle Hadeeth Masjids up in the UK wherever they are. Plus they warn from even praying in other masjids of traditional Sunni Muslims. So I asked Allah to guide me along the way and after plenty of careful research it became very clear I’ve been misguided and been misguiding others in the issues of Aqeedah and Fiqh and Purification of the Soul. Issues of Bid’ah were turned into Major Kufr and Major Shirk. Where Imam ibn Taymiyyah went against the Salaf we have been following him and promoted that. Where Imam Muhammad ibn Wahhab had major errors we followed and promoted it and we made judgements based upon all of this and much more. We mocked and boycotted. We misquoted. We even had many major contractions. We believed we were the Saved sect so look down on others and thought we were the most blessed and so never gave even 5% of what is needed to practice the Pillar of Ih’saan termed as Tazkiyyatu Nafs/Purification of the Soul. Why as we thought us being from the saved sect will save us. We would judge by clothing and appearance too. If you got a turban or Salwar Kameez or say Hazrat so and so or such and such book Shareef then we would say he’s dodgy at best. I’m researching and going to summarise this all with a list of sources for more details soon to give out to the more sincere open minded Salafis. We need to make a lot of Dua for our Salafi brothers and sisters. I don’t think any of the heads of this group will repent as they will lose everything as in reality their Eemaan is weak because they lack in purification of the Soul. They don’t look after their heart. So they will hold onto their followings and positions. The pleasure of Allah is last. They are used to the status. They will fight against us to maintain their status. They don’t want to look foolish. To be found out they have been misguided and misguiding many others. They know they’ll have re-learn a lot. The salafis don’t even learn or teach simple Fiqh properly. It’s all upside down. I’m re/learning how. I wasted 25 years. I hope to save many others to not waste many years of their life too. Make plenty of Dua for me. I have now a mountain to climb. It took me a lot of courage to admit I was wrong and accept the haqq. Just to research with an open heart was hard enough. But it’s like Allah made it easy to understand. Jzkl
Mashallah Mashallah
What’s your Email akhi id like to learn from you
Lol you gotta learn how to add spaces in between the paragraphs in your thesis 😅.
Was going to read it, then hit "read more" and saw how messy it looked.
Oh well, im happy for you... or, im sorry for your loss 🙃
@@snakejuce apologies I rushed
So you decided on the whole manhaj of salaf based on the mistakes of a bunch of overzealous individuals?? Great😄
So which hanafi you are gonna follow now?? Deobandi? Barelwi? Deobandi hayaati? Deobandi mamaati? Also their tableegh jamaath split into two.. Markaz vs shoora... Their own deobandi scholars have issued fatwas against them... So you see pretty lot of unity among deobandis?? 😊
So sad you decided not to follow those scholars whose pious forefathers eliminated shirk(to a very large extent) from the pious lands of hijaz and stopped the biddath of four different musallas around the kaaba... And decided to follow those who euologise concepts like wahdatul wujood... So imam taymiyyah was wrong? Well then what about those imams who invented concepts like wahdatul wujood which has blatant shirk in it?? Whom deobandis praise to no end... Wallahi, Allah guides those whom he wills.
Mistakes of imam taymiyyah in what? You read his books or are you parroting what his opponents alleged about him?
No one is infallible apart from beloved prophet SAW thou... U need honesty man not decision based on whims and desires.
JazakAllah khair for this . Very well explained Shaykh , mashAllah
This channel is soo beautiful. Mashallah
40:40
Assalamu Alaikum, you suggest we read up on this, where do i begin? Still finding my way through all this.
Jazakallah Hu Khair
Absolutely spot on. This is why I always laugh and reply to them, "we all follow Quran and Sunnah... the 4 imams followed and studied the Quran and the Sunnah."
I guess for some, they prefer placing a monopoly and an ownership of the Quran/Sunnah. "Us vs them" dynamics, a boatload of group-think, and a bigger boat-load of jahils.
The four imams followed the sunnah but not all their followers follow the sunnah. Pakistan is full of innovators who love shrines etc
@@jimmykahn5431 true they have a lot of innovators is this guy an innovator?
@@jimmykahn5431 he was right about madhkalis though
@@thewariscomingtoatownneary7572 I’m not saying this guy is as I do not have the knowledge to give fatwa on individuals. However I have seen Pakistanis in big groups go to shrines and do sujood infront of graves in Lahore.
@@jimmykahn5431eeyazanbillah that is evil
IBN MASOOD RA STATED IN HIS TIME"" TODAY WE LIVE IN A TIME WHEN THE SCHOLARS ARE MORE AND SPEAKERS ARE LESS, THERE WILL COME A TIME WHEN SCHOLARS ARE LESS AND SPEAKERS ARE MORE"'
SO BEWARE MY DEAR BROTHERS.
JazakAllah Mufti, we Appreciate your amazing and logical responses to Ghair muqallideen. May Allah guide us in straight path.
Salafi dawah is big on the internet which is why people who don't have first hand access to religious people, keep getting knowledge from sources that have dwindled from the tradition, salafism has caused a lot of damage, Nevertheless Alhamdulillah, Allah swt is Al Hadi, whomsoever he guides none can lead astray and whomsoever he leads astray none can guide
Beautiful sheikh with sunna face always smiling like Prophet aleihi salaam
I love the title of this video, Alhamdulillah! Sounds interesting.
the best way to look at every madhab is i am right but i could be wrong and you and wrong but you could be right
thank you sheikh ❤️❤️🇲🇾🇲🇾❤️❤️
Alhamdulillah for our ulama e haq like this Dr Mufti❤❤❤
The deobandis who think about donkeys in their salah
Wa tu izzo man tashaa wa tuzzillu man tashaa!
May Allah guide the Shias, pseudo salafis and ahlul bidaah to the siraate mustaqeem of the Ahle sunnah waljamaah! Ameen.
@@dhiaulhaq5958 may Allah guide the deobandis, especially the ones who think of donkeys in salah and the ones who think Allah has the possibility to lie. Ameen
@@AhleSunnah586 The curse of Allah be upon the liars.
May Allah open the doors of hidayah to the ahlul bidaah who openly SEEK madad from ghairullah although in salah they recite IYYAKA NAABODU WA IYYAKA NASTAEEN!
@dhiaulhaq5958 if its a lie why do deobandi scholars like limbada and adam al kawtheri back the statements. Stop blind following.
@58:21 The book mentioned is 'Durra al-Bahiyya' - This is translated in Urdu with the title ' Fiqh al-Hadith' in two volumes (around 1570+ pages); published in Pakistan by Nomani Kutubkhana...I can provide the soft copies if anyone is interested...It is the time to unite now...
Yes.. Time to unite the way likes of Imam shawkani Rahimahullah called upon... He was a fierce oppnent of taqleed... Also wrote a beautiful treatise on it.. I forget the name
Would be interested please.
Salam
Irony of mainstream Muslims is not to analyze different schools of thoughts but to be a Muslim first means maintaining Taqwa under Quran guidance
i like the accent of the gentleman at 54:15. very clear, well spoken english
Lol the madhkalis part was funny
Brothers of ZamZamAcademy I wanted to request if you've got Turkish translation to the similar topic lecture as this is a Strong movement that we've seen targeting our Turkish brothers who unfortunately don't have a similar answers or defense to the questions...
Many of them are just European language speaker or Turkish speakers ... Very weak in English
You have local scholars in Istanbul and elsewhere who are Hanafi and Shafi'. Very easy to request them to speak on these topics.
@@tandoori1990 there are already the ones that speak on such topics. The actual problem is that people nowadays in Turkey have A LOT OF Kibr(arrogance) They don't want to listen to any Hoca (teacher/scholar) They see them as backwards. Some even reject hadith and Quranist. Some say Allah gave me brain, I read and understand Quran, some mixing things with science. A lot of crazy things going on, so due to such arrogance, they don't listen and hate such scholars. Turkey is messed up BIG time unfortunately. May Allah guide us all
@@ac-go4np wow
@@ac-go4npthis is happening in subcontinent too not just turkey ...that's why many of youth are entering wahabism modern narrow thinking
May Allah grant everyone to jannah
When a Scholar A speaks on an issue give evidence...and Scholar B speaks on the same issue but does not give evidence, who do we follow? For the one who can read, listen, understand, has intelligent the follows Scholar A.
سبحان الله
Another good example of why we shouldn't just see "Dr" or "mufti" in the titles and follow the person.
May Allah guide everyone who is sincere. آمين
Can i buy this book i am living in Finland, can you sent me this book o
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SubhanAllah Amazing lecture, I was a salafi and it took months of slowly breaking away from it which happened very recently, and many of them are so staunch that just a few days age, lay followers who just began studying- passing idiotic fatwas like it is nothing, one of them said that an athari women cannot marry from a athari or mattaduri.
So true.
Shaikh Sultan al-Eid in Riyadh mentioned that be aware as Imam Abu Haneefah RH is like a door and gate to attack the rest and entire of the Fiqh as a whole, if he is attacked then it will open the door to attack the other 3 Madhab Imams then after that the rest of the classical scholars.
Imam Abu Haneefah was Salafi in aqeedah do you follow the same aqeedah as him?
No he wasn't a salafi in aqeedah any salafi beliefs ascribed to him are fabricated or misinterpretations don't say incorrect things
@@husamzaheer5415 have you read his books?
How do I contact him with family matters, what is the email address
Rasulullah PBUH already said, hold thight and bite the Sunnah and Quran. Never let go. And you will not disguided.
10:45 - Imam Nawawi, Imam Tahawi, Fakhar ad Din Razi, Ibn Rajab Hanbali, Ibn Hajar Asqalani, Imam Dhahabi, Ibn Kathir, ibn Al Jawzi, Imam Suyuti, ibn Jarir at Tabari etc.
Alhamdulilah Shaykh, thank you so much for this lecture.
They say "lets follow quran and sunnah" so are they saying the 4 Imams didnt follow the sunnah?
The pseudo-salafis speak in double talk and hide whats inside their chests.
Nobody who is a salafi says this.
What the salafis say is that the those from hindu lands such as the pakistanis and indians, and those from the christian lands, such as the bosnians,albanians, and turks, those from the levant and egypt have chosen to align their deen to be closer to hindusim and christianity with the constant grave worship, amulet worship, birthday worship, major and minor shirk, and so on, that is far away from the 4 imams and Islam. That is what the salafis criticize. We do not care if you choose not to perform raf al yadayn or something like that.
Most of the strong hadiths were only compiled after the 4 imams came into existence. One can follow Quran and sunnah blindly but one cannot follow imams blindly. If the imams verdict contradicts the Quran or the Hadith you cannot follow the imam. That is like shirk . According to Hanafi madhab one is not allowed to eat prawns but there’s nowhere in the Quran or any reliable hadith where prawns are forbidden to eat. So are you gonna follow hanafi or quran?
@@sbslm1They definitely didn't follow shaykh ibn taymiyyahs, albani, bin baz and uthaymeens Madhab. That's a stupid questions. As the imams were after that time That's like me saying did the khulafa follow hadith or shahih Al Bukhari. The four imams followed the understanding of different shahaba and the shahaba followed the Qur'an and sunnah.
@@4ozking858you forgot to mention the Arab lands where the salafis do shirk by blind following their skaykhs which is also shirk. They choice shahi albukhari over hadith and sunnah. They look past their shaykhs mistakes which are against the hadith or sunnah which is also shirk. They are following there shaykh over Allah. Such as letting American troops have a base in Saudi Arabia when it is clear in the hadith no non Muslims can be in the Arabian peninsula.
It is not permissible for any of them (the kuffaar) to live in the Hijaaz. This is the view of Maalik and al-Shaafa’i, but Maalik said: I think that they should be expelled from all the Arab lands, because the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Two religions cannot coexist in the Arabian Peninsula.” Abu Dawood narrated with his isnaad from ‘Umar that he heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “I will certainly expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula,, and I will not leave anyone there but Muslims.” Al-Tirmidhi said: this is a saheeh hasan hadeeth. And it was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) left behind three instructions. He said: Expel the mushrikeen from the Arabian Peninsula, honour the delegations the way that I do, and he kept quiet about the third. Narrated by Abu Dawood.
Al-Mughni, 9/285, 286.
@@imtiazlatif4948I don't know where you have learnt your knowledge from but your information is incorrect. Strong hadith were written at the time of the shahaba and not after the times of the four imams. Also the hanafi opinion is different from that of imam Abu hanifa. The imam believed prawns were not fish and his students believed they were fish.
Translation: A fish is that creature which has a backbone, lives in water, swims with its fins and breathes through its gills.
Prawns do not come under the category of fish, because they do not have a backbone nor do they breathe through gills. So they fall under the category of insects, and would not be allowed.
Eating Insects:
It is not permissible in the Shafi’i school to eat insects (such as ants, bees, flies, beetles, roaches, worms). This is because insects are considered distasteful, and permissibility has been tied to what is good, and impermissibility to what is distasteful. This is derived from the Qur’an (7:157), in describing the Messenger “who makes good things permissible for them and bad things impermissible.”
I would love to write more to disprove your baseless claims. You can research the false claims you have yourself as the correct information is there.
Mufti Sahib thought process behind his words is what i enjoy the most and then his explanation of details. It’s important as a viewer to understand the thought process behind these lectures rather than jump on this whole bidah and haram diagnoses.
Mufti Sahab is wrong and even spreading lies.
Since when anyone from the Sahaba, Tabiyeen and Atba Tabiyeen used aqal before Deen? This "thought process" (philosophy) or using rationale before authentic Ahadith is what none of the earliest generations did.
Ali Radiallahu Anhu even spoke against it in an authentic Hadith when he talked about how Islam does not always go by logic as he saw Prophet Muhammad sal Allahu Alihi Wa Salam....
Abd Khayr reported: Ali ibn Abi Talib, may Allah be pleased with him, said, “If the religion were based upon one’s opinion, one might expect the bottom of the leather sock to be wiped instead of the top. I have seen the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, wiping over the upper part of his leather socks.”
Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 162
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani
@@salikidrees2968He never ever mentioned using philosophy over the Sahih Ahadith. I can bet you did not watch the whole video.
What He is saying is that even the Salaf differed in various. Yani even the Salaf had ikhtilaf on some issues. Who are we to believe that just “following the Quran and Sunnah” is enough? Even the modern day don’t just use Quran and Sunnah, they use the views and interpretation of Al-Albani and Ibn Uthaymeen and Bin Baz.
So once again, even the Salaf had ikhtilaf because the Prophet (pbuh) accepted these differences. And Hadith are not on the level of the Quran. According to Hanafi fiqh for example, we use Quran, Sunnah, Ijma, Qiyas (logic and aql), Istihsan (personal opinion) and Customs (‘urf). If there is no answer in the Quran and Sunnah, using Logic and Aql becomes necessary.
@@salikidrees2968 Albani was hanafi and so was father RA but he strayed away from it. As Mutf sb said, if you wanna follow S Albani then feel free to do so.
@raystar800 father who? Again did Sheykh Albani Raheema hu Allah prayed according to Imam Abu Hanifa or did he pray according to Rasool Allah ﷺ?
Are Muslims to follow Prophet Muhammad ﷺ "blindly" or someone else?
Sheykh Albani wrote a book on Prayer with references from authentic Ahadith. Alhamdulillah.
Do you pray like Mufti or do you pray the way Prophet Muhammad ﷺ prayed and told us?
@@salikidrees2968 he followed hanafi fiqhs interpretation of Quran and sunnah then strayed away to create his own school of thought.
Dear mufti mengera this talk about salafi is a very good talk
Very much interesting
Jewel of scholarship in laymen language
Ibn Tayymiyah, quote, the four Schools are upon Haq, Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi, Hanbali, please do follow the great Imam from the past and others, it will be very beneficial. I'm sure they also followed Qur'aan and Sunnah.
Scholars said if Imam Syafie lived after 60, his madzhab will dominates the world.
The problem is a lack of education in Islamic matters. I wonder how things would have been if we had united on Quranic Arabic as our lingua franca. From there it would have been easy to gain an understanding in Islam as this would be a standard for everyone. From an early age, knowing Fohsa would elevate our status spiritually and in worldly affairs (Quranic Arabic is amazingly logical). We would be a huge step closer to understanding our deen and thus these Satanic attitudes would not be able to touch us.
This video is a lie and sitting up hate.
I've been Salafi for almost 30 years and we have never been taught that we can't follow a madhab. Rather, we are only taught (from imam Abu hanifa, imam Malik, imam Ahmed, and imam Shafi's words), that we must not be fanatical about the scholar / imam we learn from.
@@headfones1000 It's not a lie, you're just not as hardcore a Salafi.
@@SonGoku-io7shNot hardcore? I say that deobandi Islam understands Allaahs asmat wa sifat in an innovated manner, like the ashari's. And they are sufi, although not as astray as the brewli sufis. This is why we can perform salaht behind them, but not behind open brewlis. And I say that their version of hanafi fique is not fully representative of imam Abu hanifas madhab. Rahimullaah.
And I say to the ignorant on this issue, thatI fall under the description of madkhali, although that lebal is nonsense for anyone. I hope that confirm I am so called hardcore.
** However, that doesn't change the fact the we are not taught that we can't follow a madhab. Rather, we are only taught from the imams of old and present that we must not completely blindly follow a madhab when we reach a good age or level of understanding, nor be fanatical. .. And my 30 years includes traveling n meeting Salafis in many countries n Ulema too. And I say that this video is based upon a lie and stiring up hate.
May Allaah have mercy upon us all.
@@headfones1000 Brother you should not speak out of ignorance. Of course I make excuses for you to say you are ignorant rather than lying on purpose, as you accused this video of doing.
I mean you are a self professed Madkhali yet you are trying to convey your group as so softly spoken and never having done any wrong. To call you a liar would indeed be easy based on the behaviour of those which you follow. However I don't wish to personally attack you as I do not know your actions away from this comments section.
As for blind following, if you don't blind follow your "Sheikhs", what else do you do? That is one of the biggest contradictions in your Madkhali ideology because you have no clue what your Saudi Sheikhs rulings are based on. You don't even know what your pseudo-Sheikhs fatwas are based on, yet you do Taqlid of them and spit these fatwas out.
Your problem with this video is simple. It states the truth as everyone knows and the truth hurts. This video has more home truths than your Madkhali "Sheikhs" have spoken about in the last 20+ years. The Madkhalis are a corrupt organisation yet you are attempting to perform damage limitations for them, so they hold onto relevancy by the skin of their teeth and corrupt the Ummah to the best of their ability. May Allah protect us from the corruption of the Madakhila and other corruptors. To ask your opinion on sifaat of Allah is like asking for financial advise from a toddler.
@@SonGoku-io7sh You went along with what I said in my first comment, but you made the assumption that I'm not the type of Salafi that the speaker in this video refered to.
I then gave you detailed info to describe myself so that you realise I am what people erroneously describe as madkhaki.
Instead of you then accepting that the video is clearly wrong, you accuse me of lying, while at the same time admitting you don't know my character.
Do you even know what the erroneous label of madkhaki means?
And the ahlul ilm that we follow are in South Asia, Kuwait, Sudan, etheopia, Nigeria, yemen and many other places, NOT just Saudia. The fact that you refered to Saudi scholars demonstrates that you follow sterio types just like the speaker does in the video.
And I don't think you know what blind following means. It means obeying all Islamic teachings from someone (other than the Prophet, ﷺ), without knowing or hearing if its from Al kitaab wa sunnah... Yes a child can do this, or an adult in an emergency with time constraints can ask an Alim for a ruling and follow it without knowing what text. Ayat or hadith it's based upon. .. But that's the exception.
thank you, jazakAllah bel-khair. I will recommend your books when possible.
السَّلَامُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ ٱللَّهِ وَبَرَكاتُهُ
•Brothers and sisters this brothers spoke in a respectful manner linguistically but in reality they were misleading the way how they presented Salafiyah.
•The Salafi scholars are not against following a Madhhab but they are against blindly and fanatically following a Madhhab even after the truth has became clear to you.
•The end goal of the muslim should be to come to the sunnah not to come to the Madhhab. The madhhab is only a tool we can use to come to the truth.
•Practically the Salafi scholars say that for a layman is permissible to follow a Madhhab but not obligatory, following a Madhhab is the best way to learn in the beginning the rulings of fiqh, but we should not be fanatical about the Madhhab and stick to it even after we see that the truth is somewhere else.
•Salafi scholars did a hard work to unite the Muslims in the correct Aqeedah and to come back to Tawheed. This brothers spoke all the time about fiqh issues as if that is the only thing that salafi scholars have called Muslims to come back to quran and sunnah. The most important thing is to come back to correct Aqeedah which they didn’t even mention one time.
•There is so many mistakes and flaws they mention that is to long to list them here but everyone should try and check for them self the points they mention and see if everything is how they presented it. .
•The madhhab of Abu Hanifah (may Allah have mercy on him) is the most widespread madhhab among the Muslims, and perhaps one of the reasons for that is that the Ottoman caliphs followed this madhhab and they ruled the Muslim lands for more than six centuries. That does not mean that the madhhab of Abu Hanifah is the most sound madhhab or that every ijtihad in it is correct, rather like other madhhabs, it contains some things that are correct and some that are incorrect. What the believer must do is to follow the truth and what is correct, regardless of who says it.”
•The salafi scholars are not against laymen following a madhhab but more against scholars being blind to their madhhab and fanatically following it even though the other madhhab has stronger proof.
•Shaykh ‘Abd al-Kareemal-Khudayr
There is nothing wrong with learning fiqh according to one of the four madhhabs, on condition that one follows the daleel (evidence) if it becomes apparent that the madhhab says something contrary to the daleel on a given matter, because obedience to Allaah and His Messenger comes before obedience to anyone else. It is also essential to have good manners towards other schools of thought and not to develop sectarian attitudes in opposing them. He should make the truth his aim and respect the opinions and efforts (ijtihaad) of the scholars. He should make discussing matters with them in a polite manner his method of reaching the truth, and he should advise people in a polite way if he thinks that they are mistaken.
It is wrong for a person who is able to learn to refuse to do so on the grounds that only the scholars are able to understand the daleel. We do not say to one who is unable to engage in ijtihaad that he has to strive to derive rulings from the texts when he does not have the ability to do that and does not understand the principles; otherwise chaos would reign. But we do say that if you have some knowledge and understanding, you should at least know what the proof and daleel of your imaam (whom you are following) is, so that you can see the connection with the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and you can follow with some measure of insight and not be merely a bind follower.
•May Allah guide us all to the correct practice of islam according to the understanding of the Righteous predecessors.
Brother regarding madhabs u need more research cuz ur facts are mostly incorrect ...jazakumullah ❤
Agreed
@@dianacruze1825 May Allah reward you for your suggestion. I will do more research in Sha Allah to always learn more. Can you tell me what is incorrect from what i said so it will make it easier my research? 🙂
A very important discussion
The 2nd chap really got to the nitty gritty of it.
Asw finally listening to sense,unity amongst the Ummah,even if we follow different schools of thought our Nabi saw in his last sermon said all muslims constitute a brother hood.
Did he say all different sects constitute "brother hood". If you say "yes" then either your are truthful and Prophet Muhammad sal lalahu Alihi Wa Salam lied (in the Hadith of 73 sects and about those who do biddah) or you are speaking of something you do not know and thus might be misguiding others. So one should not speak without knowledge. Lying upon Prophet Muhammad sal lalahu alihi Wasalam has grave consequences. Read the Ahadith about one who lies upon Prophet Muhammad sal lalahu Alihi Wa Salam.
The deobandis who think about donkeys in their salah
Is it possible to become strong in Fiqh by learning from the Fiqh texts of Imam ash-Shawkaani? Its possible but there will still be massive dents and holes as they don't come close to how the 4 Fiqh Madhabs were developed and refined so thoroughly with hundreds of many high calibre classical scholars with checkings and explanations and notes and so on.
And Imam Al Shawqani has included all the best in Nayl Al Awtar 8 volumes in Arabic
@@dayan47 my dear sister, 1-Hadeeth is not the only source for Fiqh, there are also thousands of statements of the Sahaaba in Fiqh and then we have some 500 verses of the Qur'an for Fiqh
2- In 1 hadeeth you will find 1 or pillars of an act of worship, in another some more, and so on, thats not how thousands of ulamaa were taught Fiqh for 1000 years, Fiqh texts act like an Index, they organise issues into a simple manner, the conditions then the pillars then the farood, then the Sunnahs and so on
3- Texts of Fiqh are taught in stages, like school then college then Uni
4- Fiqh texts summarize hundreds of verses, thousands of hadeeth, thousands of fatwas of the sahaaba and thousands of Qiyas that were based upon the Quran and Hadeeeth
5- Nailul Awtaar is not for the beginner or intermediate student as Imam Shawkaani followed a lot of the opinions of Imam ibn Hazm az-Zhaahiri, you must be very well grounded in Usoolul ul-fiqh first and thats after at least intermidate level in Nahw and sarf and balaghah and uloomul hadeeth
Hope this helps, JZKL
This is a very good talk about salafis
Masha'Allah what a fruitful sitting from both Mufti Abdul Rahman and the Hanbali Shaykh Jazak'Allah .
Masha’allah, just a quick statement: A person who follows the Quran and Sunnah isn’t a salafi, they’re just a Muslim.
In the school of Ahle sunnah waljamaah the rulings (sharia) are derived from:
Primary sources
1.Quraan and sunnah
2. Rulings of the Khulafa e Rashidin (Abu Bakr, Umat Al Khattab, Usmaan Ibne Affan and Ali ibne Abi Taalib Radhiallahu anhum.
Secondary sources
1.. Qiyas (analogy)
2. Ijmaa ( consensus) of opinions of the imams of fiqh
Wallahu aalam
everyone claims they follow the quran & sunnah even Shia do...A salafi is the one who follow the Quran & Sunnah WITH the understanding of the Salaf (1st 3 generation)
@@AM-5d The real salafis my brother are the Ahle Sunnah wal jamaah.
We RESPECT and FOLLOW the rulings of the Khulafa e Rashidin in ALL matters including 20 rakaah of terawih, 3 talaqs if given in one go counts as three etc. We do not pick and choose.
The pseudo salafis while CLAIMING to follow the first 3 generations , disregard the rulings of the Khulafa e Rashidin. May Allah open their hearts to the haq. Ameen!
@@dhiaulhaq5958 Salafi are ahlus Sunnah/Hadith/Athar... Our disagreement isn't merely fiqhi position but is regarding 'Aqeedah...Where do the Asharis & Maturidis drive their 'aqeedah ?
@@AM-5d 1.Qulhuwallahu ahad. Allahussamad. Lam yalid walam yoolad.
Walam yakullahu kuffowan ahad.
2.Ashhadu alla ilaha illallah wa ashhadu Anna Muhammadan abdoho wa Rasuluh
Assalam o Alaykum
Alhamdulillah I have ordered mufti sb fiqh Al Imam .
Jazak Allah khair for explaining on the subject .
Can mufti sb team share name of Molana zakariya book please
Alhamdulilah
In Central Asia official state Hanafi religious departments are on their mission from the opposite direction, forcing people out of mosques for rasing hands, they can stop prayer half way for Ameen outloud, even sometimes call police to fine worshipers. Hanafi school has been here for ages and absorbed all traditions
😂 quite aggresive approach then.
after wasting 20 years with barelwi and deobandis I embraced salafia alhamdulillah
Good for you brother... BaarakAllaahu feek!
Alhamdulilah
I know you're being dishonest in your comment. Stop playing fast and loose with Islam. You will have to answer for it one day.
Alhamdulillah ❤
Alhamdulillah.
Spoke to a salafi brother just yesterday and he said he does not follow a madhab at all.
I simply said to him, either you are qualified to derive rulings yourself and effectively make your own madhab or you go to someone to ask questions and therefore you are following their madhab.
That’s not how it works.
@@monkmodemalik8225 how does it work then?
@@rahilhabib He may have meant that he does not follow any of the 4 major madhabs. His rulings will still need to be derived from scholars who are qualified to give rulings. Salafia is wholly misrepresented. All of Sunni Islam is upon Salafia, if one sect is not then it cannot be Sunni Islam. later additions from later scholars are just that, additions. We leave it to the scholars of Ah lul Sunnah to determine whether they are beneficial or not but the Islam we follow today is the Islam that is derived from the first 3 generations and the prophet (saw) with evidences.
@@rahilhabibso you follow Imams of ray? Astagfirallah
@@azizurrahman116 my point is that when you ask a scholar for a ruling (because we laymen aren't qualified to derive rulings ourselves) we rely on them for the ruling and trust in them for that. That is the same thing 'blind following'. The difference is that the salafi madhab is a contemporary madhab while the 4 mainstream madhab have gone through over 1,000 years of scholarship.
Jazaa kAllahu khairah fid daarain
In which country SHeikh is delivering the talk? Thank you
England
Another big Problem we Salafis have is that we prefer and push the judgements on many Hadeeth of Shaikh al-Albaani above the classical Hadeeth scholars like Imam Hafiz ibn Hajr al-Asqalaani, Zayla'ee, Qatloobah, al-Iraaqi, ibn Abdul-Barr, al-Bayhaqi, Imam an-Nawawi, ........ so if these scholars say Saheeh or Hasan we prefer Shaikh al-Albaani who might say Daeef instead, common practice this. Not to forget they were Huffaaz with the chains of many hadeeth books, hence they were termed as Haafiz. Shaikh al-Albaani was a researcher on Hadeeth, not a great Haafiz like we had before, they combined their massive Hifz and research together.
We Salafis even differ on many issues of Bidah like using the Tasbeeh beads, Fowzaan and Uthaimeen say's its ok, al-Albaani and ibn Baaz say it's Bidah.
You’re not a salafi and neither have you ever been a salafi. Fear Allah and stop lying just to score points.
Please show me where it says Shaykh Al-Fawzaan and Shaykh Uthaymeen differed with others on using tasbeeh? The classical scholars you name dropped we teach their books more fervently in our universities and madrasah, maybe when you go umrah or hajj sit in the duroos at masjid an nabawi and masjid Al haram and benefit from them. They are far more learned in the books of these scholars than a senior deobandi scholar like taqi usmani. The only scholars your people quote are the khandalvis, palanpuris and the odd classical scholar here and there, the names that are popular in your circles are ibn arabi and Al-ghazali 😂 I wonder why….
Brother... More you shoot blanks more it looks like you have an agenda🤣
Don't stop with imam bayhaqi... Go much into past.. Imam daarqutnee.. Imam Bukhari.. Imam daarmi... Imam ahmad.. Well...
You will be surprised to learn that how badly these imams criticised blind following and especially ahnaf for rejecting ahaadees.... You are not sincere
@@FazsterHQ He is either lying or he is just mighty confused...
You have no idea... Looks like you are just dropping names...
We salafis don't follow imam albani blindly.. And the idea you are trying to push through saying that imam albani came with something new than these imams is your ignorance.
You mentioned IMAM ABDL BARR.. He was a salafi in aqeeda.. A maliki by learning but not a blind follower. Have u read his work? He has refuted blind following of madhabs very much...sheikh Albani just walked the way of these pious imams..thats all...as for difference in furoo issues see how badly deobandis differ among themselves..they can't even unite on a simple issue like EATING PRAWNS BEING ALLOWED OR PROHIBITED..According to some of them hanafis are not allowed to eat it but they can trade in it as it is halal for shafis🤣.thats the kind of blind following salafi manhaj opposes...as for few furoo issues, different opinions are no problem until there is proof both ways..Please don't push your ignorance and biased views on others... Fear Allah
Additionally I oppose the understanding that Hanbali Fiqh is hard to access:
1. There are MANY students in the UK who graduated from Qaseem, Madeenah and Riyaadh. Also those who graduated from online programs from the likes of Shaikh Quaimi, Aamir Bhajhat and Mutlaq Al Jaasir.
2. Many of the main texts are translated now. Daleel Ut Talib, Akhsar Mukhtasaraat, Umdah Ut Taalib, Zaad Ul Mustaqni', Umdah Al Fiqh are all translated. And there is the commentary of Zaad Ul Mustaqni' and also Mulakkhas Al Fiqhi which is based on Zaad Al Mustaqni.
3. No Madhab is easy to access via the texts in and of themselves. They have to be studied under a Shaikh or an Ustaadh who has precision in the said book.
I think they mean in general localities. It’s ideal that you have a scholar local to you that can help answer questions
Brother do you happen to know where to access the online courses of the hanbali scholars you mentioned?
@@MH-ng3bs Check مطلق الجاسر also عامر بهجت also القعيمي.
@@MusaMills1 May Allah reward you brother and accept from you this blessed day.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said:
No one has to blindly follow any particular man in all that he enjoins or forbids or recommends, apart from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Muslims should always refer their questions to the Muslim scholars, following this one sometimes and that one sometimes. If the follower decides to follow the view of an imam with regard to a particular matter which he thinks is better for his religious commitment or is more correct etc, that is permissible according to the majority of Muslim scholars, and neither Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al-Shaafa'i or Ahmad said that this was forbidden.
Majmoo' al-Fataawa, 23/382.
Common sense, if I don't know about maths I'll ask a maths teacher, if I don't know about engineering I'll ask an engineer, etc Quran reinforces this just incase anyone is confused
But asking people who have memorised something isn't knowledge but the same as a data bank , they just process information from memory, dosent mean they're knowledgeable
When I click most of these ex salafis channels it has music and inappropriate content lol
Actually we have another 25 years of salafis talking about AtHaRi aqidah 🥴
LOOOL this is the new calamity that has befallen our ummah, its not about fiqh and taqleed anymore unfortunately, rather its about how deviated their new version of the athari aqeeda is
I don’t know any salafi brother read a hadith or verse and interpret it himself. When it comes to fiqh and understanding of fiqh and how to apply it in our daily lives, we all follow certain scholars.
This is a misrepresentation of salafiya to claim that the salafis without adequate knowledge just interpret religious texts on themselves.
So you follow a madhab of a scholar
I know many lay salafis that go direct to the text.
Great video alhamdulillah
They put it under the guise of 'blind following' which most certainly applies to aqeedah aspects but not fiqh, which is where you follow a madhab.
Anyone can refute you easily. Care to show any Hadith of why a woman prayer is different than a man's prayer in Hanafi Fiqh? You will not find any. Instead you will know that the Sahabi women prayed just like men.
Do you have a Hadith that tells you that Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him forbade people from praying 1 rakah witr? You will not find any. Instead you will see that Prophet Muhammad sal lalahu alihi wa Salam himself prayed 1 witr. In Hanafi Fiqh, there is no 1 rakah witr.
So if you follow the above then you are a blind follower of Imam Abu Hanifa when you should be a blind follower of Prophet Muhammad pace be upon him. You really should study Islam and may Allah keep you adhering to the Quran and the Sunnah. Aameen.
Are you trying to refute me? If so, I'm no scholar and therefore I've not concluded any rulings about anything so there is nothing to refute there.
If you are saying to refute either madhab in general or the hanafi madhab specifically, then, again, I'm no scholar who has concluded any rulings so you should go and speak to an actual scholar about refutations.
@rahilhabib Your very statement that "blind following" applied most certainly to aqeedah "but not fiqh". Is what I am talking about.
Why would you say such a thing when you are not a scholar?
Is this what Allah says in the Quran? Or do you have a Hadith supporting your opinion?
Allah warns us to not speak without knowledge.
@@salikidrees2968 does الله not say in the Qur'an 'they believe as their forefathers believed'. This is in reference to their aqeedah where they refused to believe anything besides what their forefathers believed and taught them. The same apliies to one who says they are Muslim only because their parents are Muslim and therefore they are Muslim. No, you have to believe yourself individually.
Elsewhere in the Qur'an, الله says 'if you do not know then ask those who have knowledge' referring to rulings of Islam.
I am, of course paraphrasing from the English translation here.
@rahilhabib Yes Allah says this but what does it have to do with "blind following" "but not fiqh"?
I am not understanding if you are promoting this speaker or you are speaking against him or against Salafis?
MashaAllah, JazakaAllahukhayran for this insight. "A 5th Madhab?" Just have a single hypothetical question. If a sahaby was alive today, would the hanafy school coincide with his understanding of fiqh? The vast majority would choose to follow the Madhab of Imam Abu Hanifa may Allah have mercy upon him. The same Madhab that was carried on and altered by his students, may Allah have mercy upon them as well. I know your thinking this is a bold statement that generalizes Hanafys, however the vast majority will ask what is the opinion of Imam Abu Hanifa regarding the authentic hadith of the prophet Muhammad PBUH before asking what was the view of the sahabah.
Most of the controversial issues that exist within the Hanafy Madhab actually strand from his students, which you neglected to mention ,not from the Imam himself. Perhaps that's the 5th Madhab you are referring to?
"Verily he among you who lives long will see great controversy, so you must keep to my Sunnah and to the Sunnah of the Khulafa ar-Rashideen (the rightly guided caliphs), those who guide to the right way. Cling to it stubbornly [literally: with your molar teeth]."
at-Tirmidhi
Depends on the Sahabi, the fiqh of ibn Masood(ra) would be closer to the Hanafis than that of Ibn Umar(ra) as the fiqh of the Malikis would be closer to that of the Sahabahs in Madina.
Abu Yusuf and Shaybani differed in issues, but they did not depart from the methodology of Imam Abu Hanifa.
@@youngomniverse35Funny you should mention that.
Coz the sahabi from whom Imam Abu Habifa has his chain is from Abdullah ibn Masud RA, and sahabi whose chain goes to Imam Malik was Ibn Umar RA.
So rather than they following close to these Madhabs.
They were actually the Progenitors of these madhabs.
I am a Muslim and have learned the last 10 years with and from Salafis, directly after my conversion. It has done me very well, I live in Egypt, learned proper Arabic, memorized a lot and have been doing dawah in my homeland with them.
Masha Allah. La Quwwata illa billah.
Have profited so much
Alhamdulillah.... Same here.. Iam from India... Alhamdulillah for salafi manhaj
Masha Allah
But all the above can be done without the Salafi Manhaj too
@@faizahmed8076 Stay strong my brother... BaarakAllaahu feek.
Same here. Nobody compares to the salafis in terms of their adherence to the sunnah, enjoining the good and forbidding the evil. Teaching and encouraging the learning of the Arabic language so Islam can be accessible to all.
@@4ozking858 Emphasis on learning arabic is also bcoz the truth should be accessible to all... As books written by salafussaliheen are in arabic😊. Stay blessed my brother..
May Allah grant patience to the ghurba of this ummah.
Is there times where 3 madhabs agree on a certain matter and the other 1 is against it completely? If there is what should be done?
You keep to your madhhab unless you can evaluate the positions yourself.
You go to a scholar who will sincerely evaluate for you based on proofs.. That's salafi approach.
Interestingly, hanafi fiqh is alone in many issues while other three madhabs are United in many issues.. Exactly why hanafis are so strong in their opposition to salafis.
@@faizahmed8076 can you give examples of this? You make it seem like the hanafis actively want to disagree with the other madhahib while forgetting that the Hanafi madhab was the earliest one of them all. Furthermore, the whole point of having madhabs is that there will be differences of opinion on small issues however the point is that ijithaad was done when deriving the rulings. Hanafi’s have their own usool of deriving rulings, our scholars didn’t just come up with random rules with no framework or structure.
@@faizahmed8076 also want to point out that the issue many people have with salafis is that they act as though they are the only ones on the truth and everyone else is wrong. You look down on others for doing taqlid while not realising that you’re doing so yourself through following your own salafi imaams. You state that you follow the Qur’aan and sunnah alone as though implying that everyone else is following some third source. It makes zero sense
@@SJ-jk7wz superiority complex is not found in salafis alone... Box headed deobandis too live on this earth who think that their sect has been given the ticket to jannah.
Secondly, none of the imams asked their followers to stick to their madhab at all cost... "Framework" Is a nice word to mask the fallacy of blind following.. No frame work can supersede clear texts.. See my posts.. Have given many examples..
Being oldest madhab is a very oft beaten jargon... If that's so then why did imam abu hanifas own students differed with him in more than half of his rulings? And if your argument is that these madhabs are established on certain "framework" Who made it? Is it infallible? And what about great imams like shah waliullah dehlawi who came out of it and gave rulings contrary to the madhab? We're they deviants too?
I leave you with one example of condemned blind following of hanafis... They wipe their necks in wudu which is not proven in any saheeh hadees... We don't oppose madhabs we only dislike the fanaticism towards it. As for the aqeeda they are maatureedi, far away from the aqeeda of Imam abu hanifa Rahimahullah...
So do your home work..
If you wanna further debate, bring me a clear proof, a saheeh hadees for wiping the neck in wudu... Please no beating around the bush.... Wudu is a form of worship it needs to be done the way prophet taught... So either you bring me the proof for it or accept that you only have words to repeat what your maulanas tell you.
This video is a lie and sitting up hate.
I've been Salafi for almost 30 years and we have never been taught that we can't follow a madhab. Rather, we are only taught (from imam Abu hanifa, imam Malik, imam Ahmed, and imam Shafi's words), that we must not be fanatical about the scholar / imam we learn from.
Yeah, I don’t know where they got this idea from
Sheikh Fawzan (Salafi scholar) on Madhabs: ua-cam.com/video/PUsuZabC25g/v-deo.html
We Muslims should unite on Quran and Sunnah.
I recommend actually watching the video
My dear brother. The Ummah was a lot more united before the issue got spread of trying to work out for ourself from the Quran and Sunnah directly. And before we had scholars with good intentions who started to call us to not stick to follow one of the 4 Fiqh Madhabs.
Also yes absolutely we should unite upon the Quran and Sunnah but what does that mean? 6000 verses of the Quran are simple and easy to understand and act upon for any Muslim, in fact millions of non-muslims have entered into Islaam just from reading the Quran as it’s easy, the vast majority is very easy. The rest of the 500 or so verses are more difficult somewhat and they are related usually to the matters of Fiqh. They need extraTafseer and explanation. Sometimes the explanations just for those 500 or so verses termed as Aayaatul Ah’kaam, they go into volumes by themselves. Each of the 4 Fiqh Madhabs have their Tafseer books just for these verses alone in volumes and sometimes they comment in extra detail on those verses whilst explaining the whole Qur'an. So we can and always did unite upon the Quran by busying ourselves with the 6000 verses and by letting the scholars explain the other 500 or so verses about the rulings/ah’kaam/halal and haram, ….
Then we can do the same with the Hadeeth/Sunnah. Thousands of them are authentic and only some of those are for Ah’kaam-Rulings that need more explanations. To top that those types of hadeeth a lot of times conflict each other apparently and this is only one of the various services that the 4 Fiqh Madhabs provided by writing books and explanaing in detail on hadeeth that seem to contradict each other. Like the different hadeeths about not when the Fajr time enters in but the time best for Fard Fajr Prayer to be prayed in Jama’ah. (In the eastern city of Ih’saa of Saudi Arabia if you miss in Jama’ah the Fajr or ASR then you can catch it in the Hanafi Masjids, they have 4 Fiqh Madhabs in that city, maybe this happens in Cairo also I’m guessing).
But point being, yes we can unite and usually did for 1300 years upon the Quran and Sunnah easily as the vast majority like 90% of the Quran are Sunnah don’t need Tafseer to get a good basic understanding and act upon them. Only in the last 100 years the calls to not learn or follow or give fatwa upon one of the 4 Madhabs has divided the Ummah very badly, it was a slip up and devils deception and we ask Allah to forgive the scholars who called to it and we do them a favor by clarifying their error so that they have less followers to follow their wrong way. They had good intentions but wrong is wrong and must be pointed out for the better of the UNITY of the Ummah which is a lot more important than some scholars. You can get Tafseer for the 6000 easier verses for extra benefits but it’s not needed to understand enough to act upon those texts. As for the remaining 10% then we unite easily simply by following one of the 4 Madhabs as a way to quickly understand those remaining texts of the Quran and Sunnah. We can't stop our daily lives for 10 years just to try and understand directly ourselves, rather we have scholars and these 4 Madhabs are just different ways to understand those texts. Many big top notch scholars attested that way who were alot bigger in levels too for 1000 years, so lets use some common sense. And not to forget, sometimes they all agree on many issues of Fiqh and sometimes they disagree because some issues of the Arabic grammar are differed over maybe. Sometimes over if a narrator in the chain of a hadeeth if he met that Sahaabi or not. Or if the narration speaking about the reasons why a verse was revealed or a why an important incident in a hadeeth in this issue is authentic or not, which can prove or disprove the actual wisdom behind the hadeeth or not. So 4 imams and their students and their students who became high level, developed systems to gather, analyse, deduce, reconcile between different narrations and so on. Hope u understand my dear brother.
Can any medical student study with one university some chapters and topics then some days go to a totally different university for other chapters and another university for the remaining? And they keep doing this for 4 years. Will they pass their degree? Will they even gain a real solid understanding or have major holes in their studies? Will it be even legal or accepted or looked upon as mad?
And just because we have very rare odd and biased or fanatical statements of very few of the scholars within the later scholars from the 4 Fiqh Madhabs doesn't mean we disregard them, those statements were rebuked and pointed out.
……..on the understanding of the salaf.
@@GenerationSalaahudDeen United? Like how? When for nearly six hundred years there were four musallas around the kaaba? That's unity what prophet left behind this ummah on?
In every century there were imams n scholars of repute who challenged the concept of blind following.... Educate yourself.
@@FazsterHQ Mashallah
Mine 15 years wasted with them😢, may Allah guide them
What was the name of the book written by Moulana Zakariya Kandalawi
Madhab is a consistent system that you have to take it in entirety, because everything depends on each other, you can't pick up whatever you want as long it suits you, the closest analogy of Madhab is a law of a country, you can't take some laws and discard the rest, or create a combination from each country, the result is a system of laws that err with contradictions and discord. Madhab in Islam isn't about follow your opinion, but it follows a methodology that derived from Quran, Hadith, Consensus, and Analogical reasoning according to the jurisprudence principles of this Madhab. My suggest is to read a book about the history of the Islamic jurisprudence, and you will understand the reason behind their existence. The modern non-madhab is a state-manufactured by Suadi Arabia, and right now their funds is drying up, means that this non-madhab is fading. The four major madhab of Islam aren't manufactured by any state, but they originated by the efforts of independent Muslims scholars.
That’s not true at all. You must stay consistent on a madhhab on one subject, like a business contract (unless you simply follow a scholar who goes with evidence and not a madhhab itself).
But there are MANY situations in which it is perfectly fine to go outside of one’s madhhab.
Like, if you follow the Shafi’i madhhab on financial matters why would you have to follow it when it comes to touching your wife and wudu, when the Shafi’i position is clearly weak and has nothing to do with finances?
Just from the shaykhs speaking style one can hear his intelligence
This video is a lie and he's deliberately setting up hate.
I've been Salafi for almost 30 years and we have never been taught that we can't follow a madhab. Rather, we are only taught (from imam Abu hanifa, imam Malik, imam Ahmed, and imam Shafi's words), that we must not be fanatical about the scholar / imam we learn from.
Imam Al-Barbahari said in his famous book "Sharh As-Sunnah" : "And the basis upon which the Jama'ah is built, are the Companions of Muhammad (sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam), may Allah have mercy upon them all. And they are Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jama'ah. So whoever does not take from them he has verily gone astray and become an innovator. And every innovation is misguidance, while the misguidance and its people are in the fire." In "Al-Hilyah" (9/239) Ishaq ibn Rähūyah said: "If you asked the ignorant people: 'Who are As-Suwad Al-A'dham?' They would say: "The gathering (or majority) of the people.' And they do not know that the Jama'ah is a scholar adhering to the narration of the Prophet (sall Allahu 'alayhi wa sallam) and his path. So whoever is with him and follows him, then he is the Jama'ah. And whoever opposes him in this, he leaves the Jama'ah."
وَلَا تَكُونُوا كَالَّذِينَ تَفَرَّقُوا وَاخْتَلَفُوا مِنْ بَعْدِ مَا جَاءَهُمُ الْبَيِّنَاتُ وَأُولَبِكَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ
عَظِيمٌ
"And do not be like those who became disunited and disagreed after what came to them of clear evidences. And for those there is a great punishment." (Āl 'Imran 3:105)
Shaykh Al Albani stated;
Therefore, it is not possible for any Muslim to independently understand the Book and the Sunnah. Rather one must seek aid in understanding them by returning to the understanding of the noble Companions, who took their understanding from the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam; via his statements, his actions and his tacit approvals.
Thus, along with calling to the Book and the Sunnah, it is absolutely essential to attach to this the understanding and the practice of the Salafus-Saalih (the Pious Predecessors: the first three generations of Muslims whose excellence has been testified to in the above hadeeth); acting upon the preceding verses and hadeeth, which order clinging to the path of the Believers, which has been explained to be the path upon which the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, his Companions and those who followed them in beliefs and actions, were upon.
Taken from al-Asaalah magazine (11/84-87)
: Al Albani said: Thus, the day the Muslims return to understanding their religion as the Companions of Allaah’s Messenger sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam understood it; and then act upon this purified Islaam in the correct manner, in all aspects of life, then that will be the day that the Muslims will rejoice at the help of Allaah and His victory.
Statement of Shaykh Al Albani in Al Asaalah Magazine
istiqaamah.net/the-foundation-of-the-islamic-awakening/
How do we know how the sahabah's followed and interpreted Quran and Sunnah, how has their understanding been passed down that when they came across this verse or this hadeeth, they understood it like this and they did this. Where is this written and which books. or should we just take a scholars word for it. How do scholars verify their own understanding. Example 'Pray as you have seen me pray', who saw the Prophet pray, The Sahabah, who saw the Sahaba pray, the ones that came after them. Both Imam Malik and Abu Hanifa came not that far after. Wouldn't their understanding and how they prayed be much closer. Are there any books to say that this is how the Sahaba prayed? How did scholars gain this knowledge that when they read a verse of the Quran or Hadeeth, whatever they immediately know this is what the sahabahs would've done. Not trying to disparage Shaykh Albani, love him and respect him. Just trying to understand...
@@MohammadAhmed-qk2bm Learn the Deen from it's sources and it's Scholars and Allah will teach you. Our Deen is based on evidence and isnad
the problem with the blind followers of madhabs is that they don't accept a hadith if it differs with their madhab. For example, hanafis refuse to raise their hands coming up from rukoo ( رفع اليدين), no matter how many saheeh hadith report this.
even if they choose not to raise their hands and do Rafayadhayn despite the saheeh ahadeeth, their Salah is still valid however I don't get those who say doing Rafayadhayn is 'Bid'ah' or that it is wrong etc... Even Imam Abu Hanifa (rahimahullah) said that if there is a more authentic narration and mine contradicts it, follow the authentic one
I might be wrong but I believe within the Hanafi and Maliki Madhabs, the reason they don't follow hadith is because they preferred to follow the actions of the sahabah from that area. Maliki - Madinah and Hanafi - Kufa. There are reasons why? If you study you'll see it's not that black and white as made out to be.
Question: Is it allowed to have bigotry to a mathhab which the people follow in any ruling from the Legislated rulings, even if it goes against the truth? It is allowed to leave it and follow the correct mathhab in some situations? And what is the ruling of holding fast to one mathhab only?
Answer: “Following a mathhab from the four well-known mathaahib of Ahlul Sunnah which have remained and are preserved among the Muslims and as well ascribing to it, there is no preventative against it. So it is said: “So and so is Shafi’ee”, “so and so is Hanbali”, “so and so is Hanafi”, “so and so is Maliki”. This nickname has continued to be present from the earlier Scholars, even from the senior Scholars. It is said: “so and so is Hanbali”. For example, it is said that Ibn Taymiyyah al-Hanbali, Ibn Qayyim al-Hanbali, and what resembles that. There is no harm in that. For solely ascribing to a mathhab, there is no preventative against it. However with the condition that he does not blind follow this mathhab by taking all that is in the mathhab, whether it is truth or a mistake. Rather he takes from it what is truth and what he knows is falsehood, it is not allowed to act upon it. If the correct opinion becomes apparent to him, then it is obligatory to take it whether it is in his mathhab he ascribes to or in another mathhab
This is because the one who the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah is clarified to, it is not allowed [for him] to leave it off for the statement of another. The role model is the Messenger of Allah. So we take from the mathhab what does not contradict the statement of the Prophet. If it contradicts it, then it is a mistake from a Mujtahid. It is obligatory upon us to leave it and take the Sunnah. We take the stronger opinion that is in accordance to the Sunnah. Despite whatever mathhab it is from the mathaahib of the mujtahideen. As for absolutely taking from an Imam, whether he is mistaken or correct, then this is considered blind following. If he thinks it is obligatory to blind follow a specific individual, then this is apostasy from Islam.
Shaikhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (may Allah have mercy upon him) said: “Whoever says it is obligatory to blind follow a specific person other than the Messenger of Allah, then this person is asked to repent. He repents or else he is killed [by the Muslim ruler] because there is no one who it is obligatory to follow other than Muhammad”. As for the other than him of the mujtahid Imams (may Allah have mercy upon him), then we take from their statements if they agree with the Sunnah. As for if the mujtahid is mistaken in his ijtihad, then it is prohibited for us to take his ijtihad. And Allah knows Best.
Question: The principle or the scale by which it is decided whether something is correct from mistake is being in agreeance to the Book and Sunnah?
Shaikh: There is no doubt in that”
[Majmoo’ al-Fatawa Li Fadilash-Shaikh Salih al-Fawzan (pg. 701-702)]
Translated by
Faisal Ibn Abdul Qaadir Ibn Hassan