Looks like so much fun ! Such fun to experiment with fresh ways to use things. To avoid damaging a room I once made a gonzo painting space with carpet remnants. Put a piece on the floor and made a trio of wooden frames with carpet pieces for 3 walls. I loosely 'hinged' them together with heavy twine so it was easy to fold the whole thing flat and hide it under a bed when I wasn't using it. Another option might be plastic shower curtains for the walls. I'm looking forward to seeing where this adventure takes you.
I wonder if the granulation medium would work on the linen and inks? I only use granulation medium with acrylic inks because you get a fantastic reaction of separation!
So with the medium it has much more control which is exactly the thing that is wanted here Ps: i am actually bothered by this behavior in plain water. Nice to see there is something that make it behave in controlled manner
Hello Irit... I cannot wait to see what happens next. It seems when you added ink to the Flow Aid part of canvas, there was less 'movement' yet when you added to the watered canvas it had a mind of it's own. Looking forward to the next video! take care
Looks like a lot of fun! I' ve actually been inspired to experiment with mixed media from watching your videos( normally use watercolour or draw with charcoal). The canvas looks like a lovely material to work on...will be looking forward to see what you discover. Thanks Irit!
loved the video. It was fascinating to see what the colors did on the medium. In particular I noticed that when you added a drop in the middle of a previously inked a area the drop seemed to put the surrounding color in creating a slightly lighter halo around the drop. I’d be curious to see how it dried and if it continues to spread as it dries. Of course I love your colors and that added to the pleasure of watching it.
I did learn a bit more about acrylics this year. I recommend trying the underpainting technique once in a while. I had so much more fun with that technique. But watercolors always will stay my favorite medium. There's nothing that will replace that. Maybe pencils when I'm traveling and don't have much time but I'm fine with that.
@@iritlandgraf You paint the canvas with one color (a watery mixture) and then you sketch out everything with the same color you did the wash with. I like to use Burnt Sienna because I really like the warmth it has.
@@iritlandgraf There is also grisaille but with grisaille you add the shadows and the dark areas more details all at once and then add color. This is another type of underpaintig that was used by oil painters really often. There are also quite a few videos on UA-cam that explain how it's been used, too.
I wonder if you add some of the QOR faux Ox Gall/Flow Agent (watercolor medium) to the inks, what would happen? It might give them that crazy flow you are looking for, like it does with watercolors. I have had luck adding some of the QOR watercolor medium to lots of different paints and drawing inks and things and making them into highly staining "watercolor" type paints that move and blend like watercolors (and even rewet when put into a palette) but have more of a permanence when they are dry.
I could not wait for this video so I went ahead and bought the flow medium the other day.I experienced the same thing as you kind of did, that it flowed even slower with that medium than with clear water. I tried on watercolor paper with FW ink and Liquitex ink. I tried with solution 1:20 and straight from the bottle, no difference. Maybe it's better to prime the canvas a bit, but not so much that you loose the fabric feeling? Maybe you should really soak the canvas/fabric in water, really work wet in wet? Many questions but no answers right now.
Yeah, the point is that water seem to do most of the work or all of it? I will try to dilute ink with it and see if that makes a difference... But so far I'm not impressed 🙄
@@iritlandgraf Show us your results, I'm looking forward to a solution to the problem. I would like not to dilute the ink. I like to work with the pipette and I want the colors vivid. Now I'm going to try inktense on wet fabric (as in the video I recommended to you). They flowed without any problems. Good luck!
This looks amazing to explore! I wonder what adding retarder would do, if it, since it prolongs the drying time, would make you able to push around the colors as you please for a longer time. 😍 Also, I suppose you could put some drops in a porcelain palette and then paint with a brush, right? If so, truly inspiring!
Glad you enjoyed! I think with wet washes and lots of liquid there's still time to work and I'm probably more inclined to pour and splatter paint than work slowly anyway 😉
@@iritlandgraf Haha, I see your point! 😂 I am selfishly curious too though. It's likely going to be quiiiite a while before I try something like it, but I feel excited by the thought! So I'm happy you are sharing your experiments with us! 😁
I'm betting that priming the canvas with acrylic medium to prevent the ink from getting absorbed into the fibers so quickly would make a difference. The acrylic medium would let the ink pigments set on top of the canvas long enough to move around on the surface & get different effects. Otherwise it will get sucked up by the fabric and ain't going nowhere. 😂😂
This was interesting, definitely going to o have a play with this idea! I did a search for more info on this and came across a video from Golden for a similar product, I’m guessing the basic principles are the same. Using the diluted flow agent you can paint on unwetted and wetted canvas, giving a similar look to both wet on dry and wet on wet respectively. Here’s a link ua-cam.com/video/dHPybGEYshs/v-deo.html
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Looks like so much fun ! Such fun to experiment with fresh ways to use things. To avoid damaging a room I once made a gonzo painting space with carpet remnants. Put a piece on the floor and made a trio of wooden frames with carpet pieces for 3 walls. I loosely 'hinged' them together with heavy twine so it was easy to fold the whole thing flat and hide it under a bed when I wasn't using it. Another option might be plastic shower curtains for the walls. I'm looking forward to seeing where this adventure takes you.
Thanks for sharing Britta! Very helpful ideas!
I loved watching you play and experiment. Hearing your working thoughts is so interesting. Thank you for this insight into the mind of an artist.xx.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This was very interesting. Liked the potential of this technique. Would love an update on how this went for you. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I wonder if the granulation medium would work on the linen and inks? I only use granulation medium with acrylic inks because you get a fantastic reaction of separation!
Yes it does seem to do all kinds of strange things, I need to test it out!
So with the medium it has much more control which is exactly the thing that is wanted here
Ps: i am actually bothered by this behavior in plain water. Nice to see there is something that make it behave in controlled manner
Hello Irit... I cannot wait to see what happens next. It seems when you added ink to the Flow Aid part of canvas, there was less 'movement' yet when you added to the watered canvas it had a mind of it's own. Looking forward to the next video! take care
Thanks Jeanette! You too!
Making my Monday better... well, I think it's Monday anyway, lost track of time.. lol
Haha yup, was Monday ;) Glad to hear!
Looks like a lot of fun! I' ve actually been inspired to experiment with mixed media from watching your videos( normally use watercolour or draw with charcoal). The canvas looks like a lovely material to work on...will be looking forward to see what you discover. Thanks Irit!
Glad you enjoyed Rowena!
loved the video. It was fascinating to see what the colors did on the medium. In particular I noticed that when you added a drop in the middle of a previously inked a area the drop seemed to put the surrounding color in creating a slightly lighter halo around the drop. I’d be curious to see how it dried and if it continues to spread as it dries. Of course I love your colors and that added to the pleasure of watching it.
Thanks Wilma! Was fun to explore!
I did learn a bit more about acrylics this year. I recommend trying the underpainting technique once in a while. I had so much more fun with that technique. But watercolors always will stay my favorite medium. There's nothing that will replace that. Maybe pencils when I'm traveling and don't have much time but I'm fine with that.
Yup, I think watercolors are my first love always. What is the underpainting technique? Obviously underpainting, but is there something special to it?
@@iritlandgraf You paint the canvas with one color (a watery mixture) and then you sketch out everything with the same color you did the wash with. I like to use Burnt Sienna because I really like the warmth it has.
Interesting! Thanks!
@@iritlandgraf There is also grisaille but with grisaille you add the shadows and the dark areas more details all at once and then add color. This is another type of underpaintig that was used by oil painters really often. There are also quite a few videos on UA-cam that explain how it's been used, too.
Thanks! I will look into it!
I wonder if you add some of the QOR faux Ox Gall/Flow Agent (watercolor medium) to the inks, what would happen? It might give them that crazy flow you are looking for, like it does with watercolors. I have had luck adding some of the QOR watercolor medium to lots of different paints and drawing inks and things and making them into highly staining "watercolor" type paints that move and blend like watercolors (and even rewet when put into a palette) but have more of a permanence when they are dry.
Good idea! Thanks for sharing!
I could not wait for this video so I went ahead and bought the flow medium the other day.I experienced the same thing as you kind of did, that it flowed even slower with that medium than with clear water. I tried on watercolor paper with FW ink and Liquitex ink. I tried with solution 1:20 and straight from the bottle, no difference. Maybe it's better to prime the canvas a bit, but not so much that you loose the fabric feeling? Maybe you should really soak the canvas/fabric in water, really work wet in wet? Many questions but no answers right now.
Yeah, the point is that water seem to do most of the work or all of it? I will try to dilute ink with it and see if that makes a difference... But so far I'm not impressed 🙄
@@iritlandgraf Show us your results, I'm looking forward to a solution to the problem. I would like not to dilute the ink. I like to work with the pipette and I want the colors vivid. Now I'm going to try inktense on wet fabric (as in the video I recommended to you). They flowed without any problems. Good luck!
This looks amazing to explore! I wonder what adding retarder would do, if it, since it prolongs the drying time, would make you able to push around the colors as you please for a longer time. 😍 Also, I suppose you could put some drops in a porcelain palette and then paint with a brush, right? If so, truly inspiring!
Glad you enjoyed! I think with wet washes and lots of liquid there's still time to work and I'm probably more inclined to pour and splatter paint than work slowly anyway 😉
@@iritlandgraf Haha, I see your point! 😂 I am selfishly curious too though. It's likely going to be quiiiite a while before I try something like it, but I feel excited by the thought! So I'm happy you are sharing your experiments with us! 😁
I'm betting that priming the canvas with acrylic medium to prevent the ink from getting absorbed into the fibers so quickly would make a difference. The acrylic medium would let the ink pigments set on top of the canvas long enough to move around on the surface & get different effects. Otherwise it will get sucked up by the fabric and ain't going nowhere. 😂😂
For sure! I just like the look of unprimed canvas... But yup, it's a paint sucker!
Where did you order the canvas from?
Bought it at my local art store, Boesner
It was so wonderfully wrapped with care.
This was interesting, definitely going to o have a play with this idea!
I did a search for more info on this and came across a video from Golden for a similar product, I’m guessing the basic principles are the same. Using the diluted flow agent you can paint on unwetted and wetted canvas, giving a similar look to both wet on dry and wet on wet respectively. Here’s a link ua-cam.com/video/dHPybGEYshs/v-deo.html