Why Do We Believe In Monogamy?

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • This week, The Swaddle team explores the origins of monogamy, why feminists believe it's inherently unequal, and whether monogamy can ever really be a choice.
    Edit and Motion Graphics: Bavana Gone
    Art Director: Neha Shekhawat
    Presenter: Anahita Sachdev
    Visual Researcher: Sailee Dadarkar
    Creative Director: Shrishti Malhotra
    Executive Producer: Karla Bookman
    Read more about this here:
    1. 'Compulsory Monogamy and Polyamorous Existence' by Leehee Rothschild (gjss.org/sites/...)
    2. 'Toward a Genealogy of a Discourse on Women’s Erotic Autonomy: Feminist and QueerFeminist Critiques of Monogamy' by Christian Klesse (e-space.mmu.ac...)
    3. 'Engels on the Origin and Evolution of Monogamy' by Frederick Engels (www.jstor.org/...)
    4. 'Are We Monogamous? A Review of the Evolution of Pair-Bonding in Humans and Its Contemporary Variation Cross-Culturally' by Ryan Schacht and Karen L. Kramer (www.frontiersi...)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 442

  • @anuskabhatta7228
    @anuskabhatta7228 2 роки тому +378

    I get why discussing monogamy and the choice to practice it is important. We should definitely discuss the origins and reason for any social practice. But in this video's context, I don't exactly understand how women being oppressed by unequal marriages/relationships would necessarily find their solutions in polygamy/polyamory? What's to stop society from thinking women are men's property even in polygamy? I mean you say so yourself, that's what happened (and is happening) across a lot of cultures: one man having numerous wives. Are these women particularly liberated, or "choose" this marriage?
    I think the real issue here isn't the type of relationship/sexuality, but partners respecting each other and having a consensual relationship. People can treat people shittily even in queer, polygamic, or any other socially tabooed relationship.

    • @firstnamelastname1744
      @firstnamelastname1744 2 роки тому +45

      Yes exactly . Thank you ... Finaly someone who understands . I recently had a similar argument with another group who said the solution for inequality in marriage is staying single for life . Now they are saying polygamy is the solution for inequality in marriage . I feel like they are using every issue and using it to give all their choices a moral high ground than everybody elses choices, like to show that everything they do is very " progressive".

    • @carolinpurayidom4570
      @carolinpurayidom4570 2 роки тому +37

      polygamy actually worsened sexism and monogamy gave a bit more status in relationship

    • @swatisaini6447
      @swatisaini6447 2 роки тому +12

      This! I was having trouble articulating it. Thank you for helping me 🎯🏹

    • @bhavya1473
      @bhavya1473 2 роки тому +3

      @@firstnamelastname1744 oh god this is so true,people are sorting to do just anything in the name of being feminists, someone had to say what you said bro honestly!

    • @himanshugiri9072
      @himanshugiri9072 2 роки тому +2

      This video went from being a video about different types of relationships to one about women's rights.

  • @carolinpurayidom4570
    @carolinpurayidom4570 2 роки тому +82

    3:18 Actually polygamy had made things worse for womenand reduced them to property with monogamy now she can too demand that the man stay loyal to her as well

    • @anushka6559
      @anushka6559 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah exactly!

    • @WR-NC-ASPL
      @WR-NC-ASPL 2 роки тому

      Gold digging girls are responsible for polygamy.. I know many girls who rejected the marriage proposals from poor low salary handsome young unmarried men, refused to become the first wife of a poor low salary man,,, and then the same girl married an already married rich well employed man and became his second wife. So, it is the gold digging of girls that is making her marry the free ATM of another woman and trying to steal the free ATM of another woman. When, she already had the choice to marry a poor young handsome unmarried man. Because many women are marrying the same already married rich man, there are many poor young handsome unmarried men who cannot get married. So, it is the gold digging of girls that is responsible for polygamy... Why are other unmarried girls planning to marry the rich husband of another woman.. Why are some girls trying to steal another woman's free ATM. Husband is the free ATM of his wife.. Why are unmarried girls trying to steal the free ATM of a married woman.. Doesn't the unmarried girls know how sad the wife will feel when the wife loses her free ATM. Also, no woman likes to share her free ATM with another girl.. The wife is sad because The poor wife will not get free food, shelter and free money from her free ATM in the future.. The poor wife cannot continue her lazy unemployed lifestyle in her husband's house and she will have to do some work and earn money to survive. Polygamy is Only worse for The first wife because she does not want to share her free ATM with another woman.. But, very beneficial for The second, third , fourth and remaining wives. The remaining wives supports polygamy because they need a free ATM to provide her with free food and shelter all her life. So, The second, third , fourth and remaining wives are ready to steal the free ATM of another woman (first wife) ...

    • @infinitegrace506
      @infinitegrace506 2 роки тому +2

      Good point.

    • @nehashaikh4
      @nehashaikh4 2 роки тому +6

      I think they're looking at polygamy from a different perspective. Historically, only men could have multiple partners and women had one. The perspective of polygamy they're referring to is a woman having multiple partners.

    • @iamtheonewhoknocks3712
      @iamtheonewhoknocks3712 2 роки тому +6

      @@nehashaikh4 Women having multiple partners will reduce men be the property of that woman. So things does not change much.

  • @somebody5156
    @somebody5156 2 роки тому +50

    I used to like this channel a few months ago but now it just feels like they're trying to oppose everything that exists
    Polygamy is down right bad. It brings many problems with it
    This video was so stupid. I can't.

    • @RojaJaneman
      @RojaJaneman 2 роки тому

      Look at their references. All foreign. Always. Even when they use desi references, they’re always in a bad light or have been approved by Harvard and the likes.
      This is officially a propaganda machine. There’s no way it’s not being funded by shady sources. This is exactly how brainwashing of culture works.

    • @zt8065
      @zt8065 2 роки тому +5

      Exactly

    • @महात्माआंधी
      @महात्माआंधी 2 роки тому

      And many paid bots in the comments

    • @user-wd7un9qq2p
      @user-wd7un9qq2p 2 роки тому +6

      U haven't understood my dear this is Islamic feminism where the burqa is progressive and bindi is regressive, polygamy is liberating and monogamy is patriarchal 😀😀I'm loving it.

    • @Shayistic
      @Shayistic 4 місяці тому

      i agree, but like we should still promote choice
      not everyone can be monogamous , not everyone can be polyamorous

  • @notafrah
    @notafrah 2 роки тому +254

    Monogamy and patriarchy are two different things. If a relationship revolves around patriarchy it makes it ruinous, doesn’t matter if that’s a monogamous or a polyamorous relationship. Cheating is not empowering. Just my two cents!

    • @akilina_
      @akilina_ 2 роки тому +8

      Agreed

    • @beingsaee
      @beingsaee 2 роки тому +26

      But if its polyamorous relationship it won't be cheating as the partner is aware of it.

    • @mrocean2305
      @mrocean2305 2 роки тому +10

      @Devyani pandey as the matter of fact polygeny(not polygamy) isn't recognized by law in any part of world. So polygeny is only people indulging in their own business , there would not be any legal boundation/security around such relationship. Hence why most women end up as single mothers.
      Though if anyone practice it then they're what we call deviants(from dictionary).
      Imo polygeny is like BDSM you can practice it behind closed doors but once your partner decided to sue you for abuse you're done for.
      Things like this which doesn't fall under law enforcement are *"bound to be more toxic than any others"* .
      But you're free to do whatever you want to do.

    • @zt8065
      @zt8065 2 роки тому +2

      So true

    • @ronhow1188
      @ronhow1188 2 роки тому +10

      What is patriarchy 😂😂 wtf r u people saying😂? Boy it would be a blessing if women like you don't get married as you are saving us from emotional pain in the future

  • @agniveshsingh305
    @agniveshsingh305 2 роки тому +20

    Chup kar

  • @tiyasachowdhury8437
    @tiyasachowdhury8437 2 роки тому +12

    stop linking everything to patriarchy , it's like you guys have a fever dream which you can't get out of , In the us when asked majority of the participants chose monogamy as their preffered mating way, monogamy above everything gives security , stability and familiarity which is more suitable parenting enviroment too . If anything polygyny is more harmful to women , you guys make videos from your highrise cool apartment complexs and your target audience is the english speaking minority of India , have seen the ground reality , have you seen how men keep 3-4 women at their mercy . What religion are you talking about you do not live in Europe , it's India , hinduism and islam are the religious majority , both of those support these kinda marriages , even in indian legal system it's okay for a muslim man to have 2 or more wives , have ever looked at those women .Choice , what choice are you talking , women here don't even have the choice to choose one man , let alone more , and if anything this enforced monogamy gives indian women security .As for maritorial rape , supreme court isn't acknowledging it , beause of the difficulty of proving there are enough "Amber heards " in this world , I am proud feminist , i am not saying maritorial rape doesn't happen ,but i am saying it can be falsely used too , we have to acknowledge that men can also be abused . lastly I hope that India penalise maritorial rape with strong laws . take care and research on a subject properly befrore making a video on it

    • @krooscontrol3978
      @krooscontrol3978 2 роки тому

      Didi true.
      Even guys suffer in these relationships but they don't show it. They try to be macho and all and hide their problems. Jordan Peterson and many more people opposed polygamy. These guys justified casual relationship in western countries and now women r suffering

    • @yeelanma9165
      @yeelanma9165 Рік тому +1

      Monogamy is gods christian way

    • @yeelanma9165
      @yeelanma9165 Рік тому

      @@mehra764 hinduism also promote polygamy

    • @kikaa1884
      @kikaa1884 9 місяців тому

      ​@@yeelanma9165if I born in Ancient India as Kshatriya then I want 4 wives if I am Brahmin or Vaishya I want 3 wives and Shudra I want 2 wives 😊😊😊

    • @kikaa1884
      @kikaa1884 9 місяців тому

      ​@@yeelanma9165Dude it is great feeling OK to have more than 1 wife at same time OK
      I will engage in Brahmanical rituals and sacrifices with my first wife other wives watching us from behind with smile by looking at me and first wife(Didi)
      Dammit I should be happy with 1 wife 😔😔😔😔 only boring.
      I am polygnous in nature I won't share my wife with others but I like to be shared with other Virgin Brides 😅😅

  • @mrocean2305
    @mrocean2305 2 роки тому +18

    Now I will go in hell for supporting this channel in past.
    May God forgive me 🥴

  • @KOST1110
    @KOST1110 2 роки тому +52

    Com'on it's not necessary for you to justify everything today ...i mean what are you trying to stand for ??....

    • @akshara487
      @akshara487 2 роки тому +10

      Exactly.

    • @RojaJaneman
      @RojaJaneman 2 роки тому +15

      This is a propaganda machine. Look at the comments. These people can’t even critically think.

    • @महात्माआंधी
      @महात्माआंधी 2 роки тому +4

      @@RojaJaneman those are paid bots. Just look at their hi fi vocabulary with no real meaning

    • @KOST1110
      @KOST1110 2 роки тому

      @@mehra764 WAIT WHAAATTTTT ????!!!

    • @KOST1110
      @KOST1110 2 роки тому

      @@mehra764 not really .....

  • @user-go9kw6wf4m
    @user-go9kw6wf4m 2 роки тому +58

    I am a girl but now I understood why men say that " feminism is toxic" . Now I agree with them.

    • @krooscontrol3978
      @krooscontrol3978 2 роки тому +15

      😂😂. They also made a video few months back justifying Amber Heard and Jada Smith's actions

    • @humanbeing483
      @humanbeing483 Рік тому +5

      ​@@krooscontrol3978 and that's ridiculous

    • @hello-kd4pi
      @hello-kd4pi Рік тому +3

      𝐄𝐱𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐥𝐲😗👍

    • @decadewgame9802
      @decadewgame9802 Рік тому +1

      Why is that? what did you understood?

    • @julietjohny5400
      @julietjohny5400 Рік тому +9

      This isn't feminism, It's wokeism. Cuz feminism is the fight for women. But polygamy means for both women and men

  • @anubratoroy749
    @anubratoroy749 2 роки тому +45

    Is it just me who didn't get it?

    • @GH-mj2ti
      @GH-mj2ti 2 роки тому +11

      Nah. I usually don't get half of the shit they say and I'm a feminist.

    • @anubratoroy749
      @anubratoroy749 2 роки тому +14

      @@GH-mj2ti I mean this episode particularly felt confusing 🤔

    • @akshara487
      @akshara487 2 роки тому +4

      @@anubratoroy749 it did. I usually agree to whatever they say. But this was weird

    • @GH-mj2ti
      @GH-mj2ti 2 роки тому +5

      @@anubratoroy749 this is ur first time? I have seen so many community posts and videos that just don't make sense at all. Ig it's a woke thing, y'know? Talk about problems that aren't really there and u r qualified to be a woke.

    • @aesthete3015
      @aesthete3015 2 роки тому +2

      @@GH-mj2ti agreed

  • @sanuumang
    @sanuumang Рік тому +10

    Nowadays, many people say that they are monogamous, but they have changed the definition of monogamy. They think that being monogamous means loving only one person at a time. However, the original definition of monogamy means loving only one person forever. So, the definition of monogamy has changed, the world has changed, and people have changed.

  • @anandkumarsaini7451
    @anandkumarsaini7451 2 роки тому +13

    ok , don't have marriage, have sex with multiple partners , then don't cry at last when you would have nothing but depression

  • @harshitabhuyan8892
    @harshitabhuyan8892 2 роки тому +58

    It's fine if someone desires to be polygamous but calling monogamy toxic and regressive is laughworthy. It shouldn't be the only acceptable form of relationship but it is hardly ever toxic or forced. A lot of people want to be with one partner and do not feel comfortable being with someone if their relationship is not exclusive. Monogamy also reduces the chances of contracting STDs to an extent. And wanting to be monogamous goes both ways, both men and women in relationships often desire monogamy and in modern context it is more about falling in love with that one person and not about treating someone as your property.
    I am a feminist and i would NEVER want to be in a polygamous relationship. Polygamy is just not my sexual and romantic preference. So stop trying to tell us how we should feel about wanting to be monogamous, most of the times it is a personal choice and not something forced upon us.

    • @ronhow1188
      @ronhow1188 2 роки тому

      Whatttt u serious ?

    • @durvabhatt9013
      @durvabhatt9013 2 роки тому

      Couldn't agree more

    • @user-wd7un9qq2p
      @user-wd7un9qq2p 2 роки тому +2

      U haven't understood my dear this is Islamic feminism where the burqa is progressive and bindi is regressive, polygamy is liberating and monogamy is patriarchal 😀😀I'm loving it.

    • @krooscontrol3978
      @krooscontrol3978 2 роки тому +2

      There is anthropological evidences how polygamy was dangerous

    • @nicolealdridge9472
      @nicolealdridge9472 Рік тому +1

      Feminism is wrong & You should try to look into why its wrong it gives woman the right to choose the right to say this or that for other woman , Its not right ! Actually its damaging . .
      You as the female should listen to a man . Turn to Jesus Christ He is the way the truth and the life no one comes to the father except through Him ❤

  • @naresh9515
    @naresh9515 2 роки тому +8

    Woke........ 🤮

  • @Azulagirlboss
    @Azulagirlboss 2 роки тому +46

    Wow, we’re evolving, just backward
    How did the people who allegedly care about the rights of all genders (especially women) go from saying that polygamy is harmful to making arguments that it should be legitimate? If according to you, a two-person partnership is unequal, what makes you think adding more people to the equation will ensure a shift in the power dynamic?
    There’s a reason, polygamy is illegal- women suffered the worst. As for polyamory, it is mentally & emotionally exhausting. When you cite prehistoric humans as an example for raising one child as a community, they also used to smear their feces at each other, must we go back to that too?
    edited for typo

    • @oh_Siddhie97
      @oh_Siddhie97 2 роки тому +4

      Preach!!!! Rather than teaching men to be loyal to wives we will prefer brainwashing women to be loyal to husband and his family. Any kind of individuality does not exist for women. The only exceptions are a handful of urban women. I mean not even all urban women get individuality. They will be cooking for in laws at home when their husbands are out partying.

    • @WR-NC-ASPL
      @WR-NC-ASPL 2 роки тому +5

      @@oh_Siddhie97 .. The woman can buy her own house with her own money or her Father's money and live in that house. Then she need not cook for her parents in law.. She has to cook for her parents in law only if she is living for free without paying any rent in her parents in law's house or in a house bought using her parents in law's money..

    • @WR-NC-ASPL
      @WR-NC-ASPL 2 роки тому

      The Gold digging girls are responsible for polygamy.. I know many girls who rejected the marriage proposals from poor low salary handsome young unmarried men, refused to become the first wife of a poor low salary man,,, and then the same girl married an already married rich well employed man and became his second wife. So, it is the gold digging of girls that is making her marry the free ATM of another woman and trying to steal the free ATM of another woman. When, she already had the choice to marry a poor young handsome unmarried man. Because many women are marrying the same already married rich man, there are many poor young handsome unmarried men who cannot get married. So, it is the gold digging of girls that is responsible for polygamy... Only The first wife supports monogamy because she does not want to share her free ATM with another woman.. The second, third , fourth and remaining wives supports polygamy because they need a free ATM to provide her with free food and shelter all her life. So, The second, third , fourth and remaining wives are ready to steal the free ATM of another woman (first wife).. Why are other unmarried girls planning to marry the rich husband of another woman.. Why are some girls trying to steal another woman's free ATM. Husband is the free ATM of his wife.. Why are unmarried girls trying to steal the free ATM of a married woman.. Doesn't the unmarried girls know how sad the wife will feel when the wife loses her free ATM. Also, no woman likes to share her free ATM with another girl.. The wife is sad because The poor wife will not get free food, shelter and free money from her free ATM in the future.. The poor wife cannot continue her lazy unemployed lifestyle in her husband's house and she will have to do some work and earn money to survive. ...

    • @kanakatari5537
      @kanakatari5537 2 роки тому

      @@oh_Siddhie97 I just want to know one thing. Teaching men to be loyal, but brainwashing women to be loyal? why are men taught and women brainwashed for same thing?

    • @user-wd7un9qq2p
      @user-wd7un9qq2p 2 роки тому +5

      U haven't understood my dear this is Islamic feminism where the burqa is progressive and bindi is regressive, polygamy is liberating and monogamy is patriarchal 😀😀I'm loving it. samjhi pagli hame bhi ab namaz padna shuru kr dena chahiye kyuki puja bohot regressive hai . Allah hu Akbar boom boom.

  • @weirdastic
    @weirdastic 2 роки тому +189

    We believe in monogamy because thats how one feels secure about one's relationship with the other. It tends to improve their understanding with each other as compared to one dating or dealing with many. Sharing our emotions, sexual life and other aspects with that particular person shows our seriousness for the relationship as well. Poligamy cannot be justified only because this what modernity demands. I totally condemn that perspective. Supporting feminism has nothing to do with supporting polygamy.

    • @Aditya_Prabhune
      @Aditya_Prabhune 2 роки тому +12

      Nobody claims that supporting feminism= supporting polyamoury, instead, supporting feminism= supporting freedom of choice of the kind of relationship one is okay without the enhaced social pressure of monogamy. Many people, even in polygamous relations, feel more secure than perhaps within a monogamous relationship as a monogamous relationship doesn't guarantee security and/or honesty. IMO, polygamous relationships are bound to stand on truth for them to function which is not a case for monogamous relationships, like we see in many relations around us IRL.

    • @tanyajustine3223
      @tanyajustine3223 2 роки тому +16

      Although I agree with you you're mistaken about polygamy being the opposite of monogamy. Polygamy is an institution where the man is allowed to have many wives while the women are married to only one man. Polyamory is the exact opposite of monogamy where both men and woman are allowed to have multiple sexual and romantic partners. I do however think that monogamy helps strengthen bonds between a couple especially in countries like India that rely on family more and more as we grow old. Our social welfare systems aren't equipped to deal with single ageing people who don't have families to rely on. So polyamory at this stage would not be a good thing for a society that is still based on family support.

    • @anushka6559
      @anushka6559 2 роки тому +5

      @@Aditya_Prabhune I think you are confusing liberal choice based feminism to justify choice thing but there are radical feminist too who prefer to have more strong opinions about thing and it's fine...

    • @anushka6559
      @anushka6559 2 роки тому +3

      @@tanyajustine3223 But historically men have always benefitted with that system, women not so much and even in today's society, thers are women who values the romantic aspects of relationships as you can see in the movies at least stereotypically and there is nothing wrong with it .

    • @WR-NC-ASPL
      @WR-NC-ASPL 2 роки тому

      First wife supports monogamy because she does not like to share her free ATM with another woman. But, the second, third and remaining wives support polygamy because they also want to get a free ATM.. These women are not ready to marry a poor low salary handsome young man and become his first wife. They reject the poor low salary man's marriage proposal and then marry the rich husband of another woman and become his second, third and remaining wives. So, it is gold digging women who create polygamy... V

  • @nu8383
    @nu8383 2 роки тому +54

    well.....i guess what people don't understand is that monogamy is the most clear representation of a sense of security...both financial or emotional....
    and i guess psychologically people are wired to look for that

    • @lukeaustin4465
      @lukeaustin4465 Рік тому +3

      When civilization began social groups became to big, so the family structure is a must for social stability. When it comes to romantic relationships monogamy is the best based on research.

    • @divineflu34567
      @divineflu34567 4 місяці тому +1

      ​​@@lukeaustin4465it's also quite necessity because you cannot love two people the same and your attention is divided you can't be whole with division.

  • @nishakumari6735
    @nishakumari6735 2 роки тому +25

    Choosing monogamy can be equally liberating for a couple...I understood what the topic was trying to convey but still I felt there's lot of blabbering here rather than analysis over monogamous relationships..
    Anyhow Grass only looks greener on the other side....
    But good work in terms of coming up with topics which does make us uncomfortable comfortably 🙂🙂🌼👍

  • @indianamenesty3341
    @indianamenesty3341 2 роки тому +12

    You are trying to devastate Indian society

    • @PrashantSingh-dh6ff
      @PrashantSingh-dh6ff 2 роки тому

      Tu avi samjha kya. Feminism is a wing of communism which just poisons a society. You will never see these feminist talking about rights for Muslim women. How they suffer in polygamic marriage where their man keeps 4 wives.

  • @dadapatil254
    @dadapatil254 Рік тому +11

    This video is inspired me to never marry a feminist

    • @hello-kd4pi
      @hello-kd4pi Рік тому +4

      𝐌𝐞 𝐭𝐨𝐨😂😂😂😌

  • @takemichi6870
    @takemichi6870 2 роки тому +4

    I have a question ?
    Why do you copy paste every western idea & try to compare it with India 😭
    Polygamy or similar type of relationships actually unstable the couples, kids life, communities & society in general, honestly i can't fandom how can you even promote non-monogamas relationships especially as a women & feminist.
    You need to read more, do your homework properly.
    'NO WONDER WHY YOU DON'T GET MANY VIEWS'

  • @akshaythakkar9127
    @akshaythakkar9127 2 роки тому +5

    Why do you all take your life so seriously?😂 . I mean wasting life is more empowering than thinking every bit of a second and taking it seriously.

    • @VSN21
      @VSN21 7 місяців тому

      Exactly😂

  • @bhavya1473
    @bhavya1473 2 роки тому +15

    Okay I am unsubscribing,feminism ke naam pe kuch bhi karte hai!

    • @user-wd7un9qq2p
      @user-wd7un9qq2p 2 роки тому +4

      U haven't understood my dear this is Islamic feminism where the burqa is progressive and bindi is regressive, polygamy is liberating and monogamy is patriarchal 😀😀I'm loving it. samjhi pagli hame bhi ab namaz padna shuru kr dena chahiye kyuki puja bohot regressive hai . Allah hu Akbar boom boom.

    • @krooscontrol3978
      @krooscontrol3978 2 роки тому +1

      Hume to kab se pata tha

    • @bhavya1473
      @bhavya1473 2 роки тому +1

      @@user-wd7un9qq2p 😭💯

  • @kerriekupar6466
    @kerriekupar6466 2 роки тому +53

    This video is everything wrong with feminism. I was somewhat sympathetic to feminism till now but going against monogamy is where I draw the line.

    • @infinitegrace506
      @infinitegrace506 2 роки тому +1

      'Sympathetic'?😂
      Now you have every reason to feel so!

    • @kerriekupar6466
      @kerriekupar6466 2 роки тому +1

      @@infinitegrace506 supportive may be a better phrase but not anymore.

    • @nojam7014
      @nojam7014 2 роки тому

      Feminism
      Is just equality for both men and women
      Just like democracy.. even though democracy has disappointed.. us
      We don't stop "supporting" the idea of feminism

    • @user-wd7un9qq2p
      @user-wd7un9qq2p 2 роки тому +12

      this is Islamic feminism where the burqa is progressive and bindi is regressive, polygamy is liberating and monogamy is patriarchal 😀😀I'm loving it.

    • @debarshibhattacharya8016
      @debarshibhattacharya8016 2 роки тому +1

      To (formerly) consider oneself feminist and still support the institution of marriage - hypocrisy redefined!

  • @surajjdhanke5237
    @surajjdhanke5237 2 роки тому +13

    Chup hoja Saatvi fail 😤
    Feminism ke Naam pe kuch bhi matlab.

    • @feminism965
      @feminism965 2 роки тому

      You sound like you are uneducated

    • @agastyapatwey
      @agastyapatwey 2 роки тому

      Tu teesri fail, video dekhi nahin aa gaye mu uthaake comment chepne

    • @surajjdhanke5237
      @surajjdhanke5237 2 роки тому +4

      @@agastyapatwey Sorry Mam if You are Offended .Aapne dhyaan rakho.

    • @PrashantSingh-dh6ff
      @PrashantSingh-dh6ff 2 роки тому +1

      @@agastyapatwey you have came in his comment box.

    • @user-wd7un9qq2p
      @user-wd7un9qq2p 2 роки тому

      U haven't understood my dear this is Islamic feminism where the burqa is progressive and bindi is regressive, polygamy is liberating and monogamy is patriarchal 😀😀I'm loving it.

  • @jquentinburns7581
    @jquentinburns7581 2 роки тому +8

    Women dependent on men, huh? He's providing for his wife and child for Pete's sake.
    So basically, if men pass women around like objects, they're "using them" (which they are) but also when they make a promise always cherish, protect and provide for one, they're fostering dependency. See how this works? You just can't win.

  • @shrishtimalhotra2406
    @shrishtimalhotra2406 2 роки тому +106

    Ultimately, it's people's personal preference as to what they choose. But we definitely need to talk about the ways in which the institution of monogamy can be stifling and redefine it/be more accepting of non-monogamous ways of living

    • @rajanpatadiya5428
      @rajanpatadiya5428 2 роки тому +13

      Children in step family are 100x more likely for mental,physical or sexual or combination of these abuse.
      Monogamy is not natural but it is the best solution to ensure civilization.
      It is one's decision at the end but we shouldn't be promoting polygamy in either way until there is big specific need for it.

    • @saranya7892
      @saranya7892 2 роки тому +3

      @@rajanpatadiya5428 well said

    • @connerezioaltier5479
      @connerezioaltier5479 Рік тому

      Black women have more children from different dad's and they have most criminals in the world...

  • @kaka-vx3ue
    @kaka-vx3ue 2 роки тому +9

    Left-liberal feminists are doing a great job promoting how progressive Islam is, and everything in Hinduism is regressive and patriarchal, the burqa is progressive and bindi is regressive, polygamy is liberating and monogamy is patriarchal good, the Islamic State of India by 2025?

  • @somebody5156
    @somebody5156 2 роки тому +12

    Can someone please explain how tf does monogamous marriage make woman a man's possession?
    3:12

    • @kinoxxan
      @kinoxxan 2 роки тому

      They point it out immediately after, in the points about marital rape and adultery as a crime against husband.

    • @somebody5156
      @somebody5156 2 роки тому +1

      @@kinoxxan how does this stop in polygamy?

    • @somebody5156
      @somebody5156 2 роки тому +1

      @@kinoxxan the points that they mentioned are very overgeneralised shit
      This does not happen in every relationship

    • @kinoxxan
      @kinoxxan 2 роки тому

      Yes it doesn’t happen in every relationship. But if it happens, laws will not protect the victim. These points highlight how law (and society) still view women as properties of their husbands.

    • @iamtheonewhoknocks3712
      @iamtheonewhoknocks3712 2 роки тому +1

      Monogamy treats woman as possession because women are not allowed to cheat and produce babies with other men. Monogamy does not let women harm men, Monogamy does not let women exploit men by having babies of other men.

  • @adamlupu5885
    @adamlupu5885 2 роки тому +5

    Cheating isn't cool at least for me.
    One can have any number of partners before (and after) having a relationship with their current partners,but the exclusivity is something that's really important to me.
    Moreover, unless a woman is stable financially,who would father the child ? Her "husband" or one of the "lovers". That's cuckoldry with extra steps.
    Don't agree with this video.

  • @RojaJaneman
    @RojaJaneman 2 роки тому +15

    That’s it. I’m unsubscribing

    • @WR-NC-ASPL
      @WR-NC-ASPL 2 роки тому +3

      Please don't.. I get inspiration from reading your comments. I will be devastated..

    • @RojaJaneman
      @RojaJaneman 2 роки тому +1

      @@WR-NC-ASPL Ok. I’ll keep commenting then. In fact I’ll do u a double favor. I’ll triple the effort, JUST FOR U 😊

    • @RojaJaneman
      @RojaJaneman 2 роки тому +2

      @@WR-NC-ASPL Still unsubscribing though. They don’t deserve it. But they definitely deserve what I’m about to bring.

    • @WR-NC-ASPL
      @WR-NC-ASPL 2 роки тому +2

      @@RojaJaneman .. I always copy your comments, change the gender and post as my comment.

    • @RojaJaneman
      @RojaJaneman 2 роки тому +1

      @@WR-NC-ASPL Y change genders? Let them believe u r something else. It’s internet. Substance matters. Not ur private info.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому +105

    The opposite of monogamy is not just polygyny with a perverse stereotype around Muslim people. It also exists in polyamory. We need more people to accept non-traditional relationships without making character assassinations and Pop Culture to stop making everything about a choice. (Yes, I do agree it’s a lot to ask from society 😵‍💫)

    • @anshuarya3860
      @anshuarya3860 2 роки тому +12

      Hey I've seen your comments understand multiple videos and always found myself agreeing to your perspective. 💙

    • @PokhrajRoy.
      @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому +2

      @@anshuarya3860 Thank you!

    • @ronhow1188
      @ronhow1188 2 роки тому +2

      Bro ur gay so u wont have babies naturally, but what if you were heterosexual wouldnt it be bad if you didnt know who your son or daughter was ? Or wouldnt it be bad if the son or daughter didnt know who their father was.

    • @Chhfhdhdyfjghdgdh
      @Chhfhdhdyfjghdgdh Рік тому

      This channel silently supports Muslim propoganda .observe it ...

  • @rmshwrrt2724
    @rmshwrrt2724 2 роки тому +6

    Enough Justice hasn't been given to this topic by Swaddle & Anahita Suchadev!
    Not because they chose to do video on this topic, but this video so short and vague failed to attack the exact topic leaving so many open ended questions and loops.
    Country and their culture can be classified in a way that varies in the spectrum from Collectivism to Individualism!
    As far as I know on this spectrum USA actually lies at the extreme end and is the most Individualistic nation!
    Whereas East side consisting India, China, Thailand, Korea and Japan are more on the side of Collectivist nations that stay together with family.
    Now notion of sexual preferences are also dependent on Collectivism and Individualism.
    Monogamy makes bureacracy & accountability so much easier, it protects from STDs, establishes culture of safety and stability.
    These relationships are driven by oxytocin lateron which actually drives you to stay together for longer with a partner providing them care and warmth.
    Polygamy I believe in larger context means being open and getting intimate with many people, not necessarily at the same time. Whereas monogamy might sound like protecting yourself for so called maintaining "Purity" only for one and not getting intimate with someone else.
    Polygamy of course is available choice on table and I agree that our culture & policies have evolved in such a way that they are perfectly suited for monogamous couples.
    But it doesn't necessarily mean that for whole of your life you will only be monogamous or polygamous.
    Polygamy can also give rise to the culture of Polyamory, which of course again available option on table but with it brings many bureaucratic challenges in case of setting accountability maybe for taking care of offspring or participation in meeting financial needs etc. Also what if all the partners evading the responsibility of being emotionally available. Or if you are ill who will look after you, or support you when you are struggling financially or finding it challenging to keep up with the pace of competition.
    More dangerously STDs the biggest risk which actually made people naturally prefer Monogamy is also a great challenge. Although protection for them is available but limited and yet we haven't been able to cure of them.
    Also where does Polyamory stops?? Do the other partners actually have a say in putting limits??
    I don't know why this video didn't discuss the relationships where Women had multiple male partner???
    Or does it mean that gender roles didn't evolve to support such relationships???
    What about Tribes that have Matriarchy culture?? What kind of set-up do they prefer??
    This video also fails to explain how privileges also affect our choice. I wish if we only had data about this which people are more likely to prefer polygamy over monogamy? Do socio-economic factors also play role in making choice??
    Most importantly does Monogamy inherently means that gendered roles and equality are messed-up?
    And Polygamy fixes those inefficiencies??
    IMO people can be both or have choice to choose and try out both ofcourse risk benefits always comes up!
    But with emotional maturity, developing great platonic relationships and community you best understand where your temperaments lie and because there are lot more important things in life other than relationship preferences you actually end up choosing something that's more stable and efficient for you! And there nothing wrong in choosing one or another but then you have to be ready to handle emotional baggage and inefficiencies that come with it!
    Cannot always keep complaining and try fixing things that are inherently inefficient!

    • @mrocean2305
      @mrocean2305 2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for educating people.
      Just asking but are you in a polyegny relationship or monogamy?

    • @rmshwrrt2724
      @rmshwrrt2724 2 роки тому

      @@mrocean2305 Best of both worlds! 🙃

    • @mrocean2305
      @mrocean2305 2 роки тому

      @@rmshwrrt2724 means single?

    • @wanderer3561
      @wanderer3561 2 роки тому +2

      Damn. This folks is what Swaddle should look at.

    • @chaitanyagupta6668
      @chaitanyagupta6668 Рік тому

      Swaddle wishes they put half as much of a thought you did in their videos. These people really need to announce that they are associated with swaddle before getting in a relationship. You know, to give them a chance to run.

  • @whatsup3519
    @whatsup3519 2 роки тому +9

    Motives behind hook-up culture? Why it's popular in America? Would you explore that topic

  • @logicalatheist
    @logicalatheist 2 роки тому +6

    A very misleading Swaddle video. Monogamy brought in more bargaining power to the softer gender in the loopsided polygyny. If the editors feels that having more sexual partners is liberating for a woman, I think they are surely mistaken. Monogamy ensures good parenting, good emotional support.

  • @saranya7892
    @saranya7892 2 роки тому +6

    Why you are so confused? Monogamy means single partner for both men and women.
    In order to show, monogamy as problematic, you are stating only women in monogamy have single partner and men have have multiple, that make's it polygamy and unfair practice.
    Stop your propaganda.

    • @kikaa1884
      @kikaa1884 9 місяців тому

      In Ancient India If I am Kshatriya I want 4 wives,If I am Brahmin and Vaishya I want 3 wives if I am Shudra i want 2 wives 😊😊😊

    • @kikaa1884
      @kikaa1884 9 місяців тому

      It is great and Romantic 😊😊

    • @saranya7892
      @saranya7892 9 місяців тому

      @@kikaa1884 hi Pak bot

    • @kikaa1884
      @kikaa1884 9 місяців тому

      I am Indian from Hyderabad city Polygamy is present in ancient to modern Times in South Asia OK for Hindus/Sanatani other religions OK

    • @saranya7892
      @saranya7892 9 місяців тому

      @@kikaa1884 here the issue is not ancient vs modern.. first understand the video.. second, in modern India polygamy doesn't exist in Hindus. Or even Christians...it exists only in Islam..

  • @GTR-93
    @GTR-93 Рік тому +7

    THIS VIDEO AFFIRMS THAT A MAN SHOULD NEVER MARRY A FEMINIST

  • @zt8065
    @zt8065 2 роки тому +4

    Very well created video for me to unsubscribe

  • @prabhnoorsingh4779
    @prabhnoorsingh4779 2 роки тому +2

    I fee like polygamy is nothing but a desire or fetish cause one can be happy with a monogamous relationship. (Just my view)

  • @vi3ha
    @vi3ha 2 роки тому +5

    monogamy relationships se kaha tum crimes, discrimination, misogyny aur blah blah pe aa gye

  • @himanshukoul8615
    @himanshukoul8615 2 роки тому +6

    Bcz u can't afford more than 1 wife?

  • @annalesewinget6792
    @annalesewinget6792 2 роки тому +12

    I don't think so we need multiple partners , you cannot be in love with two people at all.

    • @Pyasa.shaitan
      @Pyasa.shaitan Рік тому

      Love is a chemical reaction
      It does not exist; dopamine runs out in a 1 year. Most marriages end in divorce.

    • @isabellouise8164
      @isabellouise8164 Рік тому

      maybe you can't but the experience of millions pf people and just look into movies, stories, books... they all beg to differ.

  • @ashishpathak8943
    @ashishpathak8943 2 роки тому +6

    I don't know how to express on this ridiculous demand of feminist.
    This is not equality.

  • @Testuser-ht6sz
    @Testuser-ht6sz 2 роки тому +6

    It is a preference for obvious reasons. But it would be not good if non monogamy is the only way to get know what is true love. But rather it would create increased spread of sexually transmitted diseases and mental health issues, if the significant partner is not okay with that. It is not good to brainwash that monogamy is not natural, but rather to spread that it is a preference where everyone can be able to speak out. To fill the lack of intimacy , polygamy is not the only way.

  • @hey.beautiful
    @hey.beautiful 2 роки тому +15

    As a woman myself, I can accept being with two or more partners, to satisfy my emotional needs... But i can never accept being with a male having who already has a female partner ( even one ).
    So this is how monogamy is seen from centuries, males had 2 wifes at the same time but female can't have it as out social structure doesn't support it and here it turns out to be oppressive. That's why it makes me feel that Monogamy is the best option for getting undivided attention and love and that too for both of gender because it doesn't include concept of favouritism in marriage or relationships even in case of cheating, cheaters seems afraid loosing their legitimate partner.
    Polygamy will not have boundaries and will not be able to do justice at every point with all the partners.

    • @apple3354
      @apple3354 2 роки тому +4

      What do you mean by emotional needs???

    • @hey.beautiful
      @hey.beautiful 2 роки тому +2

      @@apple3354 for me it's a feeling being special, unique and one and only to someone where no alternative options are there for the person I'm with. Where i can share my feelings or thoughts to my partner without being troubled that he'll share it to the other partner of his and ofcourse not sharing my partner with anyone else (romantically) is what I would say as my own "emotional needs".

    • @apple3354
      @apple3354 2 роки тому +5

      @@hey.beautiful but you said above can accept two or more partners??so how that works

    • @aayushagrawal556
      @aayushagrawal556 2 роки тому +7

      Humans have evolved biologically to be monogamous because parents in monogamous relationship can provide best upbringing to the offspring, and partners in monogamous relationship can help each other in difficult times throughout life and even in old age, that's why monogamous societies tend to be more successful and prosper at every aspect whether it's economy, health, law and order , quality of life and many more.
      According to evolutionary biology When humans perform coitus certain hormones are released in brain which binds both partners physically as well as mentally and emotionally because they have to raise the offspring together as well as take care of each other throughout life. That's why human sexuality and relationship evolved more psychologically than just Physical.
      Non-monogamous relationship doesn't work well because humans have not evolved for it. Non-monogamous relationship leads the person to binding psychologically to many people, and neither it is good for offspring, and human brain isn't evolved for it, and it kinda messes up with human biology and the way brain has evolved and wired causing overall mental-physical-psychological health problems, which eventually creates chaos and destruction.
      Despite being the largest econony and always boasting about their liberal Approach usa has the most number of depressed, mentally-physically ill people with highest number of Crimes globally, and it's ranking in global happiness index is also very low which is quite Surprising by looking at how liberal they are.
      You can read 12 Rules of Life by Jordan Peterson for better understanding on how successful societies function.
      Thank you.🙏

    • @PrashantSingh-dh6ff
      @PrashantSingh-dh6ff 2 роки тому

      Basically we all are Animals and it's in our instict to reproduce and show dominance. As we can see in animal kingdom. But do we really want to live like that fucking around with n number of people. Marriage system was created for our benifits. Polygamy will nowhere make women s life better. It will make a women more vulnerable for violence.
      I think these feminsts love Muslim shariya law where men have multiple wives. These people are so illogical. I can't imagine a single civilization in world where in polygamy are happier.

  • @lakshmi3821
    @lakshmi3821 2 роки тому +3

    Polygamy or monogamy is personal choice, personally I like to be in a monogamous rlshp cos I don't wanna waste my time n energy with more than one person, coming from someone who once didn't like to be in a rlshp at all. I think we r categorising too much today that everything has a small group n they r working for their rights, Where in, there ain't much problem yet ppl make a fuss out of it. it's better we acknowledge any kind of problems in society together without categorising ppl on the basis of what they support. Just be logical n support what's right, u don't need a feminist tag for that. Polygamy was once a part of many cultures when there weren't much population, but today we don't have that problem. I think it's bttr not involve in other's personal choice whatever be it sex, rlshp, dressing, job...

    • @krooscontrol3978
      @krooscontrol3978 2 роки тому +4

      These guys want to do everything usa is doing. American feminist wanted to be have fun sleep around and this plan backfired and they r blaming guys

  • @ravenclaw_beater
    @ravenclaw_beater 2 роки тому +5

    I say I don't believe in monogamy but I have high standards after watching my parents' marriage 😅😅 therefore I prefer that one best rather than a lot but waste 🤣🤣

  • @pranavratra
    @pranavratra 2 роки тому +8

    I have been reading Brave New World and its made how the timing of this video had to be around me reading a book where the society condemns monogamy.

    • @anonkasper7937
      @anonkasper7937 2 роки тому +1

      So you read it. Read 1984 by George Orwell as well.Both the books will give an insight about the future for humanity planned by elites

    • @pranavratra
      @pranavratra 2 роки тому

      @@anonkasper7937 have read it!

  • @VibhavSaraf
    @VibhavSaraf 2 роки тому +23

    I think it is interesting and important to discuss if we have given undue importance to having a monogamous relationship. Ultimately I believe it should be a personal choice regarding what kind of relationship they want to get into, as long as it is clarified with their partner/s.

  • @vi3ha
    @vi3ha 2 роки тому +10

    this video is worth unsubscribing your channel

  • @FunZoneer
    @FunZoneer 2 години тому

    As a Woman after watching this video I feel
    - Loyalty, Respect, Trust between the spouses left the chat.
    So Basically make young indian girls watch this video into OVERTHINK that marry your Husband and sleep with other men for your sexual desires in the name of feeling "EMPOWERED" about yourself.
    And Btw I am not a village girl. I am a well educated modern day indian girl aware of all my Rights as a woman and i don't consider cheating on my Husband as "EMPOWERING" or "LIBERATING" Sorry.
    Please don't Ruin the Name of Feminism with videos like this.
    On this channel We'll not talk about how both partners need to learn to contribute equally towards chores, cooking, cleaning and spend quality time and develop understanding, we'll not talk about education , we'll not talk about mens rights and breaking the stereotypes that bind them from expressing their vulnerabilities and emotions to us because society expects them to have a masculine tough boy facade on, we'll not talk about women entrepreneurship, we'll not talk about making Gender neutral laws for men as well for equality (which apparently is supposed to be the True meaning of feminism) , we'll only talk about these society derogatory things in the name of Radical Or woke feminism in the name of exploring and feeling empowered as a woman
    Note :- For those who will argue that muslim men marry multiple women. Yes I've been against that. Both spouses should be loyal, committed and Trustworthy of each other.

  • @caramel2484
    @caramel2484 2 роки тому +16

    non monogamous relationships are often seen as unfaithful.. a lot of toxic behaviours are justified by people calling themselves "possessive". but then again all these negative notions regarding polygamy are just social and only exist because of the social standards we put for a relationship.
    monogamy should always be a choice, not a compulsion.

  • @somebody5156
    @somebody5156 2 роки тому +9

    Please don't justify cheating 😭

    • @Pyasa.shaitan
      @Pyasa.shaitan Рік тому

      Having sex without consent is cheating
      Having sex with consent is open marriage(although, I believe if the person is asking for consent they have made up there mind anyway)

  • @gearjams6263
    @gearjams6263 2 роки тому +2

    seriously please i beg you dont bring these degenerate ideas to indian society and also suggestion to woman in this video please move in with your parents and learn some values.

  • @minhas551
    @minhas551 2 роки тому +2

    How does monogamy make a woman financially dependent on her husband/ partner ?

    • @Pyasa.shaitan
      @Pyasa.shaitan Рік тому +1

      Well historically women were seen as commodities. They didn’t have any work outside of serving the family, while the man worked provided for the family. Economic and Cultural setting was feudal, but that mode changed with industrialization.

    • @chaitanyagupta6668
      @chaitanyagupta6668 Рік тому +2

      @@Pyasa.shaitan that didn't answer the Q at all

  • @dileepkrishnan4276
    @dileepkrishnan4276 2 роки тому +18

    Matrilineality in Kerala was an ingenious antithesis to forced female monogamy of patrilineality. In a matrilineal family a group of women and their brothers live together and support each other in domestic affairs. Suitors can come to their family in pursuit of relationship. Women had the power to end the relationship whenever they wanted to. The offsprings born in this relationship will be looked after the brothers and sisters that cohabited with her.

    • @kerriekupar6466
      @kerriekupar6466 2 роки тому +11

      And as someone who's family comes from matrilineal society in the North East. I say it's the worst crap ever and I'm thankful to have grown up in a patriachial society. As much as patriarchal society has its problems any male individual would choose a patrilineal society over a matrilineal one.

    • @kerriekupar6466
      @kerriekupar6466 2 роки тому

      Matrilineal societies give no importance to men and feminist think this is ok. So female superiority was always the goal it was never equality.

    • @dileepkrishnan4276
      @dileepkrishnan4276 2 роки тому

      @@kerriekupar6466 can you explain why?

    • @kerriekupar6466
      @kerriekupar6466 2 роки тому +5

      @@dileepkrishnan4276 it's obvious why would any guy with an ounce of pride or self respect want to be in a women's dominated society. Where inheritance, surname, land ownership even living with the wife's family after marriage. Obviously any man would rather live in a patriachial society. Sure men have the burden of responsibility in such society but the privileges that come with it make those burdens worth it.

    • @goldi1018
      @goldi1018 2 роки тому +3

      @@kerriekupar6466 so after your logic, women don't have self-respect and are OK with patriarchy?!?

  • @Algodo_Major
    @Algodo_Major 2 роки тому +1

    This video started with something and ended with something entirely different. I mean where is women oppression here? Bro who's writing your scripts?! Like... Is this channel just trying to get the society hate men and what? Their videos are good but some are just... Pointless like ye kya hai bhai? In fact ye kyu hai? Why does this exists?

  • @kinoxxan
    @kinoxxan 2 роки тому +14

    It’s funny how non-monogamy is seen as ‘sexual degeneracy’, while one of the biggest proponents of normalisation of non-monogamy is the asexual community. As an ace I would like my partner to have other partner(s) that could fulfil their sexual needs. Monogamy as the default (and the only socially acceptable) option puts a lot of pressure on asexual people as well as their partners. It further marginalises an already marginalised community.
    I know most people don’t take asexuality into consideration when discussing sex and romance, but now that I have put forward this point I would like to know what y’all think about it.

    • @mrocean2305
      @mrocean2305 2 роки тому +1

      Not all the ace are aromantic though which makes ace + aro a very miniscule amount and that makes it a very micro group of people choice forced on majority. You know what is other word for such things? It's *Dictatorship*.
      Aside from that even if s€x isn't equals to love for ace people it is hold very much importance to non-ace. So it is not a what if question because your partner will definitely fall for other person who isn't ace. So when those 2 will decide to start a family what will you gonna do?
      Oh! Right you'll make polygeny a "normal" thing which will harm more than it'll benefit just because you want to experience relationship.That's what we call *Dictatorship*
      Also everything have merits and demerits but when demerits outweigh merits then we should stop ourselves.

    • @kinoxxan
      @kinoxxan 2 роки тому

      @@mrocean2305 I was talking about both aromantic and alloromantic aces.
      Also, whose choices are being forced upon whom?! It is precisely about *giving* people choices, not taking it away. You got the wrong idea.

    • @blank_uta7174
      @blank_uta7174 2 роки тому +2

      While i clearly understand that view point, just a heads up. Not every aro ace thinks of having a polygamy relationship.
      I believe it's a choice to be in any kind of relationship.
      As an aro ace myself, i prefer to be in a monogamous relationship. But if i don't find any suitable partner in life, I'm still gonna be fine with that.

    • @user-go9kw6wf4m
      @user-go9kw6wf4m 2 роки тому

      If your partner is a sexual then take divorce and marry others

    • @kinoxxan
      @kinoxxan 2 роки тому

      @@user-go9kw6wf4m I love that person, why would I divorce them?!

  • @mahimakashyap3405
    @mahimakashyap3405 2 роки тому +2

    Sab badi badi batein past present ki choro. Personal level par socho, how would u feel agar apke husband ya wife ka apke alava koi partner ho, ya multiple partners ho?apko apka husband /wife batakar kisi or ko date ya shadi kre yaa bina bataye you Will feel betrayed..Will u accept it in the name of so called "choice of people. " I can't.. And so any one who is in true love with there spouse. Polygamy is basically be-fazool ka bawal and mental peace ka murder. Anyone who have loved someone be it girl or boy can feel how secure and pleasing is monogamy. So swaddle u need to calm down here. U can't be flag bearer of every fucking stupid thought.. Your content is always Enlightening but here it's not acceptable at all.. Let me suggest you topic for next video -: how should women supposed to react when cheated upon?
    And fhir polygamy ko justify krna or kehna yess I'm a feminist, I support n understand concept of polygamy and it is okay if my husband has a girlfriend or another wife, he confronted not lied so either I should support him or leave him if I'm not happy with this situation. No matters how deteriorating it be for my heart to know the thing, but then being a feminist I have to accept that he is not wrong at all because yessss "polygamy is a choice " It is ntg wrong or unethical.. Thankuuuu❤❤

    • @PrashantSingh-dh6ff
      @PrashantSingh-dh6ff 2 роки тому

      Don't be so dumb in the name of toxic feminity. Polygamy is choice. Doing crime is also choice. Polygamy will only make women life miserable. People like you should be sent to afganistan for a tour to know how is the life of women where their husbands marry multiple times.
      Do you even know the consequences of multiple partners for a women. Men will start treating you like a whore. It will be easy for you to fuck around with men but extremely difficult to get a good man for marriage. They will not consider you worthy of a family maker.
      Choice is yours. Do you really want to be like these feminsts who don't marry and hate family system.

  • @carolinpurayidom4570
    @carolinpurayidom4570 2 роки тому +4

    You are also ignoring the religious aspect of people choosing monogamy in mainstream Christianity for example Monogamy is the only acceptable form of romantic and sexual relationships polyamory in all its form aren't allowed.

    • @WR-NC-ASPL
      @WR-NC-ASPL 2 роки тому +1

      Not correct. Ten commandents prohibits only adultery or extra marital relationships. Adultery is having relationship with the husband or wife of another person... But, Ten commandents does not probihit pre marital relationships between 2 unmarried people. Pre marital relationships are not considered as adultery if both man and the woman are unmarried.

  • @thomascat7530
    @thomascat7530 Рік тому +1

    One year later swaddle: "Is Having one father patriarchal?"

  • @spique32
    @spique32 2 роки тому +3

    Polyamory/polygamy could be a choice, and maybe lead to more equality, but the video does not really mention how? The only historical polygamy situation that is mentioned is men having multiple wives, which feels a far cry from equality/equity.
    Speaking in heterosexual contexts, women being financially, sexually dependent on men and hence being exploited, is not necessarily an outcome of monogamy. It's not like a man not sharing parenting load and other emotional labour in a monogamous relationship, would suddenly automatically become better at it when practicing polygamy with multiple partners. As for women having multiple partners, it could easily become that she may now have the meet the high expectations from all of them too.
    I do believe that monogamy is not for every single individual, and it could be great for people naturally inclined towards polygamy be able to practice that (as long as all partners agree), instead of being forced into monogamy. However, moving away from monogamy alone will hardly stop perpetuation of inequality, it'll require much more emotional intelligence & maturity from people in general.
    One other thing that I think isn't talked about - the importance of platonic relationships. Our monogamous partner can not and should not fulfill ALL our needs. Instead of putting all our eggs in one basket, it helps to build other non-romantic relationships too, with friends and family. Even in non-monogamous families, the platonic support system can come into play to build healthy dynamics.

  • @kk0511
    @kk0511 2 роки тому +2

    Islam ko follow karlo ,simple🤗

  • @himanshuusain
    @himanshuusain 2 роки тому +2

    We have some kind of genetic stuff By evolution.. it's a long debate that it's good to go with instinct or it is a imaginary world created by capitalist society

  • @johnmorris1009
    @johnmorris1009 3 місяці тому

    Because when we think of monogamy, we all see the ideal side of it; the security, the everlasting love, the life structure that csn result from it (a strong unit, which leads to a family). The reality is that it often doesn't turn out the ideal way, and in my view polyamory is no less natural than monogamy really, but on the surface offers less structure, because people typically settle down when they get old.

  • @devvvved
    @devvvved 2 роки тому +2

    There needs to be some more nuance here.
    For example, in some places where relationships are referred to, the word monoamory should have been used.

  • @Tamil_Atheist2023
    @Tamil_Atheist2023 11 місяців тому

    As a feminist i won't go with this woke topic,this is ridiculous turning into man hating thing such a corporate woke channel,If polygamy will oppress women & polyandry oppress men , polyamorous create chaos just think about the kids who are born into this kind of relationship,if you want to promote polyamorous relationship its personal choice but why are you bringing down monogamy??if people choose monogamy and monogamous its their wish just like you choose polyamorous relationship,The consequences you will surely face in Polyamorous relationship are more high risk in sexually transmitted disease possible .dont say condom gonna save you nah they are not 💯 gonna guarantee you always. people do cheat in Polyamorous relationship.my opinion about polyamorous is that it works for some people and not for others.my opinion of people who say polyamorous folks don't really know about what true love feels like is exactly the same as my opinion of people who say that monogamy is unenlightened and monogamists cant tell the difference between love and ownership: they're both smarmy ass morons.my opinion about corporate channels is that it is not the role of these corporate channels to tell how to run their romantic relationship.you people are no difference to the people who are male chauvinist,both are in extreme way this is also pseudo Feminism you have to balance it, people choices and preferences are balanced you can't expect everyone to be straight,or everyone to be gay,or everyone to be into polyamorous,goes for many things,personally polyamorous things for people who are into it will create trust issues so they end up therapists, polygamy??do you want women to be oppressed again?? polygamy has affected women's life and children's life,the religions who did polygamy literally destroyed many women's life from getting rights to all the things,I have seen many successful monogamy relationship without patriarchy from men's perspective & also from women perspective balancing each other there was this couple they both go to work and they both cook,do house hold chores and everything they are out of bad eyes their children are better they way they talk and explain kids was soo good , oppression in only seen in polygamy

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому +3

    No offence to anyone but we should retire the term ‘same-sex’ couples. We need to find a better term.

    • @swatisaini6447
      @swatisaini6447 2 роки тому

      Like?

    • @oh_Siddhie97
      @oh_Siddhie97 2 роки тому

      Just couples should be enough in my opinion. What’s anyones gender got to do any outsider?

    • @PrashantSingh-dh6ff
      @PrashantSingh-dh6ff 2 роки тому

      Kuch suggest kar Bhai 🤣🤣🤣

  • @rahuldahoob
    @rahuldahoob 6 місяців тому

    Good lord faminism has reached India too!! Thanks internet

  • @lukeaustin4465
    @lukeaustin4465 Рік тому +1

    When civilization began social groups became to big, so the family structure is a must for social stability. When it comes to romantic relationships monogamy is the best based on research.

  • @simplespeck
    @simplespeck 2 роки тому +1

    Dear swaddle dont think that you are liberating the society by questioning monogamy - Monogamous relationships are only an option?? Wow - You are encouraging people to multiple partners at a time.
    Monogamy is not because of patriarchy but because it makes easy to focus on one person at a time for a stable relationship.
    No Feminist cake is complete without the cherry of patriarchy on the top.
    Please know that women are not saints and men are not monsters.

  • @anirbanchakraborty2263
    @anirbanchakraborty2263 2 роки тому +21

    Firstly, absolutely LOVE THIS CHANNEL!
    Second, on the reexamining and re-evaluating the idea of monogamous marriage, one weird finding in the West is that monogamy has a very high correlation with higher educational qualification and lower religiosity. Moreover, whenever other forms of marriage have been tried on a societal level, they more often than not negatively impact the underprivileged sections. Research in the regard in India is scant. I wish you guys can make another video on this talking of India's case and what can be alternatives to monogamy. Because as Churchill (not a very quote-worthy person though) claimed, “democracy is the worst form of government - except for all the others that have been tried", monogamy also perhaps functions like that.

  • @yaminivishwakarma9928
    @yaminivishwakarma9928 2 роки тому +3

    Always first on this channel

  • @okurrt5836
    @okurrt5836 2 роки тому +7

    the Swaddle slays everytime with a new episode and a newo topic, so thoroughly studied and in the simplest language. i would also question the norm that people have about polygyny being inherently bad, everytime we talk about polygyny we say a man and his wives, which completely dismisses the fact that women are humans too and they can enter the relationship with consent, it also assumes that women don't have a sexuality which is completely wrong, maybe the women were also being intimate with other women in the relationship. THANK YOU SO MUCH SWADDLE

  • @Aditya_Prabhune
    @Aditya_Prabhune 2 роки тому +2

    Isn't polygamy easier said than done, the amout of "negative connotations" that come with it demotivate many to merely think anout it.

  • @justsaying7783
    @justsaying7783 2 роки тому

    I just don't get it for so long i think man with numerous wife actually treat womens like object but she is saying the exact opposite like if a guy have one wife he is not objectifying them but respect her to belive she is enough

  • @sulaganabiswas
    @sulaganabiswas 2 роки тому

    Was there a clip of Derek, Meredith and Cristina from Gray's Anatomy? Ironic.
    Monogamy for most spells financial, social and emotional security as people grow older. But people are inherently polyamorous, that is, drawn towards more than one person. We control desires to make our lives less messy. Or covertly have extramarital relationships. Or decide on open marriages. But for cautious people, monogamy is a better deal. It has social, emotional and financial advantages and hence glorified.
    I found swaddle's analysis a bit off

  • @cauliflowerhead2735
    @cauliflowerhead2735 2 роки тому

    The evolutionary reason for monogamy is overruled by social necessity in a capitalist society. Monogamy is the smallest easiest family unit to manage. And as we know familiarity breeds contempt, monogamy becomes easier to wade through as opposed to polyamorous relationships. However, if 2 consenting adults want intimate and domestic adventurism and are willing to bear the consequences of it then who are we to say anything.

  • @isabellouise8164
    @isabellouise8164 Рік тому

    Very great and informative Video. Polyamory isn't anti-monogamy. It's anti forced monogamy. People should chose what suits their needs.

  • @wutangmuslin
    @wutangmuslin 2 роки тому

    Why are you conflating monogamy with the concept of ' one true love ' and the power dynamics in a monogamous heterosexual marriage? This video touches upon many complicated subjects and manages to convincingly shed light on none.

  • @stutikhanna987
    @stutikhanna987 2 роки тому

    I don't know how can be claim that we are monogamy human while we consider different partner once we get separated from the previous one. Monogamy person can't be attracted to more then one person and polygamy doesn't mean we have relationship with multiple persons at the same time. Monogamy was practised because of multiple reasons first of all jealousy plays a biggest roles in that. We can have a great relationship with one person who almost fullfill our all needs but lacking in one need and to fullfill that particular need we try to find the substitute but this means we put one person on higher position and another one is second choice in our life. It's not about romantic relationship always but it comes with any form of relationship. I can be jealous with my parents, friends, classmates, office colleagues etc.

  • @user-go9kw6wf4m
    @user-go9kw6wf4m 2 роки тому

    Recently an Iranian woman was killed because she refused to wear a hijab. Please make a video on that

  • @bookishbrendan8875
    @bookishbrendan8875 2 роки тому

    Doesn’t monogamy have greater utility where having children are involved? If he interested to see which is healthier for one’s kids.

  • @ruchita20
    @ruchita20 2 роки тому

    Nice . I don't earlier think boutique it .
    But then where do loyalty stand in polygamy

  • @yashagar4443
    @yashagar4443 2 роки тому

    True monogamy shall not be enforced but there's nothing inherently wrong with monogamous relationships either people do live extremely fulfilling lives in monogamous relationships.That being said it's absolutely not necessary to enforce it on people in the name of sanctity.That in fact is a terrible tradition.Too each their own,in fact to people in the relationship should have the exclusive right to decide how they want to take it forward.That could be monogamy or an open marriage but integrity should be the cornerstone.

  • @kenofken9458
    @kenofken9458 2 роки тому

    I can't say why "we" believe in monogamy.
    I don't.

  • @adityagoloka
    @adityagoloka 2 роки тому

    What is feminism?
    Please tell me.🙏

  • @ummmyumm9335
    @ummmyumm9335 2 роки тому +3

    Polyamry in a patriarchal society worsens the position of the woman rather than opposite. male promiscuity is often normalized in India but not vice versa ( like you discussed in one of your videos ) even if look at most religions females having multiple partners is rare and un the opposite rarely a choice and that is why the double standard leads people to think that religion or country is backward.
    And especially if a woman is not equipped with proper support from an equal society her being financially unstable is more likely in this sort of arrangement. Polyamry can be seen as a new form social ties which I agree to but it being argued has uplifting is bs
    Plus it has direct tie of being bad for your health like why would I want to increase my chances of contracting venereal diseases.( avoiding sex with unknown or multiple partners is a part of reproductive health for reals urf NCERT)

  • @moulikbanerjee3396
    @moulikbanerjee3396 2 роки тому

    yeah I would love to be swateen of my wife with other 3 or 4 men 😉

    • @kikaa1884
      @kikaa1884 9 місяців тому

      Girls are strictly monogamous they stay loyal to one 👨 OK

  • @mannshrimali5172
    @mannshrimali5172 2 роки тому

    Efforts makes everything easy.

  • @syzygy_of_stars
    @syzygy_of_stars 2 роки тому

    I am okay with polygyny as long as you allow polyyandry-😂😂😂😂

    • @Revanced23
      @Revanced23 Рік тому

      😂😂
      They can't bear 2 more more

    • @mehra764
      @mehra764 9 місяців тому

      Double penetration

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому +4

    I, as a Savarna Cisgay person, live in this unusual paradox: An ideal is to have the institution of marriage dissolved and abolished BUT also that Marriage Equality should exist. I just want everyone to have AT THE LEAST an option to marry.

    • @firstnamelastname1744
      @firstnamelastname1744 2 роки тому

      I honestly have a doubt if the idea of marriage is regressive why is that a valid option to want ? Maybe the reason they want is internalised misandry/misogyny?

    • @PokhrajRoy.
      @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому

      @@firstnamelastname1744 I see it as legally recognising groups of people otherwise overlooked.

    • @firstnamelastname1744
      @firstnamelastname1744 2 роки тому

      @@PokhrajRoy. legaly recognising people ? Lgbtq are citizens . They have issues but how is marriage going to make them more recognisable ?

    • @PokhrajRoy.
      @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому

      @@firstnamelastname1744 Yeah, but legally we have very few rights and the institution of marriage should be there as an option.

    • @firstnamelastname1744
      @firstnamelastname1744 2 роки тому

      @@PokhrajRoy. why abolish slavery, what if someone wants to be one? We have women defending triple talak, sati , female infanticide ? Just because some people want it why should a regressive idea be kept ? Either you should agree marriage is not regressive in every case or you should say marriage should be abolished as a whole .

  • @iamspd10
    @iamspd10 2 роки тому

    Just thinking about it today

  • @haywooddunnett4190
    @haywooddunnett4190 2 роки тому

    ᑭᖇOᗰOᔕᗰ 😅

  • @amruthaammu471
    @amruthaammu471 2 роки тому +1

    For all those who are blindly putting comments down here.. there is something called sexual independence.. if a person irrespective of gender wants to be in monogamy or polygamy it is their sole right.. but it should be always out of each partner's consent involved in the relationship and not by cheating them that's it.. but it's pretty sure that Indian society will never accept this for the comming 50 years atleast.

    • @nil6004
      @nil6004 2 роки тому +5

      Then why bring one down to bring the other up.

    • @__vaidic__purush_
      @__vaidic__purush_ 2 роки тому +5

      Sexuality and independence cannot exist together. You cannot have sex with yourself. So saying sexually independent solely means do not require any other partner while you are contradicting the meaning of words itself. Secondly if a person is not satisfied with one then leave the one and go to other. But having both together means allowing adultery. Adultery is also not bound with one more partner, there can be 2, 3 and so on. So monogamy is not the problem but taking absurdity as freedom is.

    • @amruthaammu471
      @amruthaammu471 2 роки тому

      @@mehra764 if doesn't mean that if we are interested in family and monogamy, we will force everyone to be so.. everyone has equal rights to choose what they what to ... That's what sexual independence promises too..someone is not interested in family, will you force them to make one?.. there lies the answer.

    • @user-wd7un9qq2p
      @user-wd7un9qq2p 2 роки тому

      Feminism is regressive.

    • @user-go9kw6wf4m
      @user-go9kw6wf4m 2 роки тому +1

      Abe chup kr

  • @keta2222
    @keta2222 2 роки тому +4

    Polygamy makes great sense when done right especially in cases of one asexual partner in a relationship and other partner having physical needs or in case of just of sexual affiliation out of a monogamous realtionship (open relationship kind of). Polygomy (according me) doesn't work when there are multiple people involved in relationship in more than the sexual aspects, everyone ends up having their favourite this makes the relationship less harmonious, the idea of spending ur whole life with one person is scary and probably something out of fantasy but the idea of confined polygomous relationship is more scary to me BC one way or another people are gonna get hurt and insecurities are gonna arise but hey that's just me.

    • @aayushagrawal556
      @aayushagrawal556 2 роки тому

      Humans have evolved biologically to be monogamous because parents in monogamous relationship can provide best upbringing to the offspring, and partners in monogamous relationship can help each other in difficult times throughout life and even in old age, that's why monogamous societies tend to be more successful and prosper at every aspect whether it's economy, health , law and order, quality of life and many more.
      According to evolutionary biology When humans perform coitus certain hormones are released in brain which binds both partners physically as well as emotionally because they have to raise the offspring together as well as take care of each other throughout life.
      Non-monogamous relationship doesn't work well because humans have not evolved for it. Non-monogamous relationship leads the person to binding psychologically to many people, and neither it is good for offspring, and human brain isn't evolved for it, and it kinda messes up with mental health, human biology and the way brain has evolved and wired, which eventually creates chaos and destruction.
      Despite being the largest economy in the world usa has the most number of depressed and mentally-physically ill people, highest no. Of Crimes globally. and it's ranking in global happiness index is also very low which is quite Surprising by looking at how liberal they are.
      You can read 12 Rules of Life by Jordan Peterson for better understanding on how successful societies function.
      Thank you.🙏

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому +7

    I’ve heard of Queer Couples actually be better parents by engaging in non-traditional parenting patterns. I think it does help the child.

    • @ronhow1188
      @ronhow1188 2 роки тому +5

      😂😂 baby will hv heart attack knowing both fathers are married to each other

    • @tusharsharma8952
      @tusharsharma8952 Рік тому +1

      lmao

    • @Pyasa.shaitan
      @Pyasa.shaitan Рік тому

      Only 1% of any countries population is queer and most of them live in metropolitan areas.
      So that’s my question; If we have to abolish monogamy, we should also abolish capitalism and concept of inequality.

    • @kikaa1884
      @kikaa1884 9 місяців тому

      In Ancient India,I want 4 wives if I am Kshatriya I want 3 wives if I am Brahmin or Vaishya and 2 wives if I am Shudra 😊😊😊

    • @kikaa1884
      @kikaa1884 9 місяців тому

      I will engage in Brahminical rituals and sacrifices For the religious and social reasons😊
      I will invite Brahmins to 🏡 for meals for religious reasons and I will give 100 cows and 1000 gold coins to Brahmins after Yagna completion 😊😊

  • @supriyoghosh9061
    @supriyoghosh9061 2 роки тому +1

    Monogamy is just socially and economically more beneficial for society that's why the law wants it but it does not mean humans are inherently monogamous.

  • @jijovj3808
    @jijovj3808 2 роки тому +1

    Super video. U r so educated. I found my ignorance on this topic. So what r your views on women attraction towards bad boys, and casual s.x which seen in western movie. Expecting your views on it

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому +1

    ‘Polygyny’ really takes me back to Sociology Class and I love it 😂