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40 HP Evinrude Outboard - Been There Done That
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2019
- This Old Outboard. 1975 40 Hp Evinrude Long Shaft Remote.
Very Reminiscent of the 1989 25 Hp Evinrude Tracker. "Been There Done That"
After Hours and Hours of Video and Editing, Microsoft Update Destroyed My Computer !
I was lucky just to get this video together. Unbelievable !
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It's This Old Outboard. Resurrecting small outboard motors.
well done, I am glad you got her sorted, also in all the years of boating and many hundreds of outboards that was the first time I have ever heard of the spark plug position, so many thanks for that info to, tight lines and trouble free motoring, a big thumb's up.
Hey. Thanks. Truly appreciate you watching and commenting. Stay tuned for the next episode ! thx again
Batten down the hatches brother, you take care. Love your channel. Give us an update when it's over.
I'm Battenin, I'm Battenin ! Hahaha Stay tuned !
Well done! Get that boat tied down as we are going to get some bad weather here in Central Fl!
Hey. Thanks. Yeah I'm kind of freaking out, two boats in two different lakes and only one trailer. Help! Hahaha Stay tuned !
I just fixed mine, same engine..carb cleaned, throttle adjusted, fuel filter gasket replaced, running like a champ now..
Nice work!
Hey this old outboard. So glad you're motor is running well now you might want to put a hydrofoil on that motor it helps keep the nose of the boat down in the back end of the boat up. I got one on the 15 game Fisher outboard . and I have one on my 1957 Johnson lower unit and it help's a lot.!😎 love watching
Scott Johnson ya I got one for a 6hp evinrude pops the boat on plane now and mph increase incredible
Hey. Yeah there was one on it when I bought it. A big one. Hahaha My top speed was a solid 23 and hitting 24, but it is a big boat. I'll have to slap it on and see what happens. Thanks for watching and commenting. Stay tuned !
THIS OLD OUTBOARD I think it hurts top speed I read but keeps the bow from jumping up and down
It sounds good but if I was to guess it was running lean that's why the choke helped at wot. It would also explain why when closing the throttle plate a little it will pull more vacuum and suck more fuel. I would try one jet richer it won't hurt and make sure and squeeze the bulb while it's cutting out to rule out the fuel pump. Keep up the good work I enjoy your adventures even when things don't work out 😅
Thanks 👌
Great job!!!! She sounds sweet now :) :)
Hey. Thanks. The video problems were worse than the motor problems. Hahaha It was a miracle . thanks again Stay tuned !
Yep that damn cable, now which way did I turn it....👈🏻or👉🏻....?
Lol 😂 I know the feeling all to well.!!! 🙂
Hey sounds good and a lot of power...👍🏻
Hey. hahaha. thanks. I really appreciate it. Stay tuned !
That was interesting. How did adjusting the throttle cable fix how it ran? Hey you have a big storm heading your way. Tie everything down.
Thanks for tuning in! Just catching up!
Sounds a lot better. Glad to hear you got to go fishing. Did you catch anything? Hope you cooked some chicken wings and had a beer after fishing cause lord mercy you need it. Lol! Enjoyed the video
Hey. No didn't even get a bit. If my computer was working you would have seen it. what a nightmare. I'm still trying to fix it right now. And yes on the wings and beer! Hahaha Thanks again. Stay tuned !
yea once it cleans out it runs great now, interesting deal ill say lol, not sure if it was the plug or the condenser, did you put hotter plugs in it or just change the rotation lol?
Thanks for tuning in! Just catching up!
Do you run any of your outboards in saltwater and if so what is the maintenance needed to keep them from rusting up?
Hey. No I haven't yet, but if I did I would rinse the heck out of it and flush it out really good, either with muffs or in a tank. thx.
Here's a thought as far as the storm. Take the motors off and sink the boats till after the storm blows over. At least you will know where the boat is at
Hey. Yeah thats what I'm thinking. My Jon boat can go in my storage unit. and sink this one on shore. I hate to do that but. Thanks for watching !
Sounds to me like it's sucking air bubbles. Have you tried a different float setting? I'd open the float up to where it almost flows out the front of the barrel...Then go back the other way..
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Did you try running it with cowling on? It may not like that ram air of the open carb.
Hey. Yes, Tried every trick in the book. Cable adjustment was the fix. thx. Stay tuned !
Is that storm going to hit you?
@@outboardfun3353 LOOKS LIKE IT. HELP !
what size boat is this on \
Thanks for tuning in! 16' trihull. Thanks again !
Do u have 1963 evinrude parts??
Hey. No I don't. Best bet is ebay for used parts. And KodiBass is known to sell parts. Thanks & Stay tuned !
I just have two questions.. 1st- are those low tension points ? 2nd- does that have a vacuum switch to shut off one cylinder if it over revs ( to stop runaways ) both of these will cause the problems your having !
yes on the points and yes on the cut out switch. now i have a question. Are We All Watching the Same Video? Hahaha thx again !
THIS OLD OUTBOARD I believe we are but different ears hear different things and to me it sounded like the ignition was floating . I have had issues with the vacuum cutoff switch in that to much vacuum tells the engine to stop spark to one cylinder and only runs on one until the vacuum decreases . It just seamed to me you might be asking for an opinion but if your not then I’m sorry about putting my 2 cents worth in the pot .
@@davekimbler2308 Hahaha . Hey. It just gets a little frustrating answering these comments. If you read them you'll understand. Half of them are,,,, Its the this, its the that, try this, try that. and the other is,,,, Glad you you got it running !, Sounds good now!, Great job! sounds sweet!., Hahaha So like I said, Frustrating. And I'm freaking out about my computer, Still cant get it to edit videos properly. Anyway hours of video and editing down the drain. took me hours just to salvage whats in this video. Thanks for letting me Vent !
THIS OLD OUTBOARD anytime bud , I know how you feel ! There are people in this world that think they know everything and that’s frustrating to those of us who do ! Lol take a deep breath and have a Anoka and a beer ! Lol. If you need low tension points I’ll send you 2 set for free , just let me know ! SKOL BUD !
I know nothing about boat motors. But I know that when you see a working 1971 glastron tri-hull with a 60HP Johnson for $750, you buy it! Problem is, the second journey out she ran really well, sputtered a bit and died, now it seems dead electrically. Doesn't crank, nothin! Any ideas?!
Check for spark, no spark on both plugs probably the driver coil. What year is the motor
Sounds like reeds my did the same thing change the feed plates
It was the throttle cable adjustment . thx for watching !
Now let's put the old plugs back in and see if the issue returns then you will know which one (plugs or cable adjustment) was the culprit.
Hey, Been There Done That. It wasnt the plugs and you'll see in the next episode called, "Fun With Spark Plugs" ! If I can fix this computer/video Nightmare. I was lucky to salvage the videos I have here. Thanks for watching and commenting. Stay tuned !
Carburetor Float level...? Weak fuel pump...?
Plugs points, condenser, and Throttle cable adjustment. Thanks for watching. Stay tuned !
Glad you used Ngk plugs champion are crap I think I said that in your last post my old evinrudes run so much better at wot with them
Hey. Yeah, from everything I was reading the NGK's are more popular than the Champions with these old outboards. I've always "been by the book" with these things but it dosent hurt to try something different. And they are available Hahaha . I still plan on getting a set of Champions just to compare. Thanks again for watching and commenting. Stay tuned !
THIS OLD OUTBOARD I’m good friends with a old timer boat mechanic he said the Ngk plugs are the key and always have a extra set with you
Well, that could be either fuel or ignition related....But, if partially closing the choke helps than it would appear to be fuel related...Did you remove the high speed jet from the bowl when you cleaned the carb? Get some of those felt pipe cleaners. Then, disconnect the fuel and pull the carb drain plug....Now, pass the pipe cleaner deep into the bowl thru the high speed jet and pull it out....You will probably notice some crud on the pipe cleaner when you remove it... Before reinstalling the bowl drain plug, reconnect the fuel line and pump the bowl forcing fuel out of the bowl, which might expel any debris in the bowl...You might try having an assistant or yourself pump the fuel line while it is misbehaving. Indexing the plugs is a procedure for the direct injected OMCs, really won't have any benefit on this engine...If messing with the throttle cable helps, then one of your sync adjustments is way off..With the engine off, remove the throttle cable, and the shift in forward gear, have an assistant hold the throttle arm (where the cable connects) all the way in the wide open position while you have a look inside the carb throat. Is the butterfly fully opened? That "economizer linkage" adjustment is very tricky to get right, especially with only one person making the adjustment... Again, if messing with the throttle cable seems to help, this is only a band aid for sync adjusments that are way off....Again, the economizer linkage adjustment is a tricky one...If the adjustment is too advanced, the butterfly will open fully way to soon, and probably prevent the mag plate from reaching full advance because the linkage jams when the butterfly hits its WOT stop on the carb....If the linkage is retarded, the butterfly will never reach the WOT position....Be sure the throttle cam pick up adjustment is set properly first, that is step on...Messing with the cam pick up adjustment after making economizer linkage adjustment will throw off economizer linkage adjustments slightly. I know it is hard to understand what I am trying to explain with my written words, hopefully you have the correct manual for this engine....Finally, please don't use hotter plugs than OMC recommends for this engine.....
kramden do you think he’s not running low tension points on that motor ? I don’t remember if they still had the vacuum kill switch on that year , I know the earlier ones did .
@@davekimbler2308 Unfortunately, that engine does have the much hated "low tension" ignition...That 40hp has the vacuum cut out switch also....
Audio quality on these videos can fool you, what I heard could be either fuel or ignition related....He says that tapping the choke helped solve the problem so it seems like it is fuel related. Then, when he messed with the throttle cable, he claimed the issue went away. I am thinking he does not have the sync right....That economizer linkage adjustment is confusing, hard for me to explain it to him using the written word....
@@fleetwin1 Hey. Let me try and straighten this out. Unfortunately, due to computer problems, I lost a lot of video that explained things better and how I approached the situation.. Anyway if you guys remember all the crap I went through with the 89 25hp Evinrude and the wah-wah-wah sound it was making (off and on) and everyone was trying to help figure out what was happening. "Its the Rev Limiter", " Its the Reed Valves", "Its Cavitation", its this, its that, and so on. I Did everything, if you remember, I even put that stupid whale tail thing on it. Hahaha. Anyway. After it was all said and done I realized what was really happening. It was me! I was throwing everything off by adjusting the remote throttle cable and messing up my sync. It didn't really make sense but it did. Kramden, if you remember, (hahaha I know we all have a bad case of CRS) back on the 25, when I said, It was happening when I would bear down on the throttle at WOT and I thought I was pushing the butterfly past its limit, it would wah-wah-wah, but you said that cant be the case because there is a throttle stop on that carburetor, which is true (and the same on the 40). So, first real run on the 40 and Wah-wah-wah, then it hit me, here we go again, Been There Done That ! Now, first let me say I've always been a Tiller man, and I've put a lot of outboards back in the water. This is my first rodeo using a remote and cables. So this time I took the idle stop screw out of the equation and set my sync and WOT setting with just using the throttle cable (but that video didnt survive). Then took it for a run, it bucked just a couple times. Slightly adjusted the cable (twice) and it smoothed out (that video did survive). Then I gently added back the idle stop screw and double checked everything. Top speed is a solid 23 and bumping 24 on the GPS and running good now (that vid didn't make it either). One more thing I'd like to add, the throttle linkage control gears at the lever have the typical play/slop for a 45 year old outboard, and vibration at running would "land" them where they wanted to land, and throwing things off. So, end up with two different settings, one running and one not. I'd have my roller/follower set on the cam and crank it up and it would be in a totally different place from where I set it. Hahaha drive me frikkin crazy ! But I got through it. Now, still trying to fix my computer after that last microsoft update, still having trouble playing/editing videos. HELP COMPUTER GODS ! Hahaha Thanks again Guys. Stay tuned !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 I hear what you are saying buddy, but adjusting the throttle cable trunnion will have no effect on running quality of the engine. If the trunnion is advanced too far, the engine will never come all the way back down to idle. If the trunnion is cranked in too far, the linkage may not reach the WOT position. Neither one of these conditions will affect runnning quality. Wish I could do face time with you because I realize that the written word is tough to translate into the actual procedures...I get that. I will look for a manual for this engine when I get home, perhaps I can copy the pages and email them to you, then we can go over it together.....D
You mentioned this engine does NOT have a WOT stop for the carb butterfly, is this true? I thought the older engines had a long roll pin through the throttle shaft that hit a boss on the carb body when the butterfly is opened fully. The newer models, like your 25hp just had a short roll pin through the throttle shaft allowing the butterfly to go right past WOT position and start to close again....
But, it is like I always say, "never argue with success"....So, if it is running right now, leave it alone and enjoy it....
Hey. No I said/wrote "because there is a throttle stop on that carburetor, which is true (and the same on the 40)." I have access to a manual, ever seen this site, www.boatinfo.no , check it out. Anyway like l said, first two Remote Outboards both did the same thing and never ever have I encountered that type of problem before. Actually come to think of it. It happened in one of the first videos on the 89 25. One of the first run videos, Started out wah-wah-wah, stopped adjusted the cable and it was gone. Adjusted the cable again and it was back. I'll have to go back and look for it ! thx again. Stay tuned !
Ngk plugs are different. 7 is colder than 6.
Hey. Yeah, I read that and champion plugs are opposite. But I said it backwards. I thought about that afterwards but the nightmare with the computer/videos was killing me. Thanks for watching and commenting. Stay tuned !
I have a 1984 Evanrude Super40. I believe it is identical to the 84 Norsemen. Sold to another part of the world and name something different.
Is it possible to take a electric start system from a 84 Evan rude and adapted over to the 84 super40.
My problem is that you damn near have to be the Incredible Hulk to pull start this motor and if you're not paying attention it will pull you right back into it.
So I'm hope is that I can take the electric start setup off of the 84 Evinrude 40 and it will fit onto the 1984 Evan rude super 40.
Thankyou. 🙏🙏
Hey. Thanks for tuning in. Are you sure the Norseman is an 84. It's best to look up both outboards model numbers, probably find them on marineengine.com and see if the starter motor brackets are the same. If not you can probably find a good used bracket on ebay but you'll need the part number from marineengine.com. The starter motor should fit the bracket and use the solenoid/wiring you have. I would double check the starter fitment just to be sure. Ebay has cheap starters too. Thanks again & I hope it works out for you.
indexing spark plugs is b.s. ive never seen it in a service manual.
Might not be in a service manual but it will have an effect on the flame front and how combustion happens, generally indexing is used on high performance enginge. On stock engines the manufacturer isn't worried about extracting every ounce of horsepower out of their engines, their only interested in making their engines operate within certain parameters while meeting emission requirements.
Indexing helps the cylinders run even all racers index their plugs.
Great information thank you
Thanks for tuning in! Just catching up!
in order to index a plug the ground electrode would have to be welded on in a certain spot in relation to the thread AND that would have to be indexed with the threads in the cylinder heads for each cylinder.
Champion spark plug like it came from the factory with I don't like those ngk I've had the problems your having from those plugs it's not a Honda why use Japanese spark plugs
beachin bbq why because they make a better product champion are made in China
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It sounds bad. You better get the hell out of Florida
👌 Ridin the Storm Out Baby !
You could see how you biminitop works for a sail out in the lake. Haha. I bet it would hit 80 on your GPS
@@TimsWorkshopTJY i wish