NASCAR Heat: A Story of Low Expectations

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • The NASCAR Heat series has had some troubles for a while. But after the last 5 games seemingly glossing over them and the way that fans have also seemed to go along with it I think it is time for someone to address them.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 822

  • @PopperOfBalloons
    @PopperOfBalloons 4 роки тому +188

    1:50 everybody gangsta till the wall start speaking minecraft enchantment table language

    • @bangman0163
      @bangman0163 4 роки тому +17

      When you hit the wall and get a sharpness V diamond Sword

    • @mdewulf0922
      @mdewulf0922 4 роки тому +4

      BradTheMeme Haha nice

    • @thejman3489
      @thejman3489 4 роки тому +5

      The Geico Restart Zone was a bit high that day

  • @j-mangaming2923
    @j-mangaming2923 4 роки тому +346

    F1 2020: implements a mode which could basically be given its own game
    NASCAR Heat 5: yOu cAn dNf nOw!

    • @ChevyBuddy
      @ChevyBuddy 4 роки тому +32

      Funniest thing is..that you really can't in its current state. DNFs are utterly broken lol

    • @MoNeenja
      @MoNeenja 4 роки тому +19

      and you really can't dnf unless you over rev the engine

    • @jaytonskari8613
      @jaytonskari8613 4 роки тому +2

      But I guess the good thing is the company that makes the F1 games acquired 704 Games. That would mean the next nascar game could be much better.

    • @jrspaceboy9648
      @jrspaceboy9648 4 роки тому

      @@jaytonskari8613 or it could die

    • @paulcerrezin2498
      @paulcerrezin2498 4 роки тому

      To be fair codemastes was shit until 2017 or 2018.

  • @theoriginalshew
    @theoriginalshew 4 роки тому +174

    The funniest bug is the winners trophy having the NASCAR Heat 4 logo on it.

    • @SamuelHLloyd2008
      @SamuelHLloyd2008 4 роки тому +15

      I know. I thought I was hallucinating. I even went into the, “my games” on Xbox to make sure I didn’t accidentally buy NASCAR Heat 4.

    • @luregraff
      @luregraff 4 роки тому +3

      theoriginalshew wow that’s disappointing to hear. i got heat 4 about 2 months ago and love it (haven’t played a nascar game since thunder series). i just don’t get why a.) the AI is coded to wreck you if they’re a “rival” and there’s no reward for having a high rep outside of sponsorships. and b.) there’s no presentation or anything that immerses you or brings the game to life. it’s all about details (correct trophies, caution replays, 100% authentic sponsor placements on custom cars) that bring the game to life.

    • @MattMauser363
      @MattMauser363 2 роки тому +1

      When i saw it i was like"Bro i got scammed by Steam WTF" then i realised everyone haves it

  • @cito1101
    @cito1101 4 роки тому +285

    The only thing that I have a problem about NASCAR heat, Caution replays not being there... Where Are they???

    • @kyleschafer6275
      @kyleschafer6275 4 роки тому +33

      I mean it would also be nice if we had a paint booth like either EAs in 09 or eutechnyx. Also how comes Nascar video games havemt had a good damage model since the PS2 era? Like at least it looked like NTG 11 started a good looking system until they rushed it out.

    • @mmaples1909
      @mmaples1909 4 роки тому +2

      Yes i agree

    • @tonystewartfan2014
      @tonystewartfan2014 4 роки тому +1

      To be honest I like NASCAR heat

    • @antborb7215
      @antborb7215 4 роки тому +1

      Oh boy.... that is a big no no

    • @pandamanytss9784
      @pandamanytss9784 4 роки тому +3

      ya i loved that from inside line

  • @lat-qz3tn
    @lat-qz3tn 4 роки тому +304

    I’d like to see Codemasters try their hand at a Nascar game

    • @ZachTaylor2631
      @ZachTaylor2631 4 роки тому +56

      Codemasters could kill a NASCAR game. I mean by shoot it out of the fucking water. Codemasters know exactly what needs to be where, has a great community, listens to there community, and continues to build better and better games every year. Whilst building Non-Racing games!

    • @Starfire_Storm
      @Starfire_Storm 4 роки тому +30

      The thing is, Codemasters could make quite the simple game like F1 2012 but put a NASCAR badge on it, and it will already be one of the best NASCAR games ever

    • @jerkwad08
      @jerkwad08 4 роки тому +7

      Well...Motorsports games (the new partner with 704 games is old codemasters people or something like that. So the next game could be a codemasters type game. Mortorsports games and 704 had nothing to with heat 5 besides push it out the door to us. Why else would they have such a late announcement so close to the release? Its a copy paste type game as are most sports games this year.

    • @a_dangernoodle8154
      @a_dangernoodle8154 4 роки тому +3

      704 actually has some former Codemasters Devs I believe. I think they are all under the Motorsports Games umbrella, but you might have to fact check that

    • @MrMW2nd
      @MrMW2nd 4 роки тому +3

      we have been saying this since nascar 09 came out

  • @heyimcyclo7209
    @heyimcyclo7209 4 роки тому +33

    Codemasters F1 2020: We added My Team Career, Full Career F2 seasons, Splitscreen, Season Lengths, Schumacher Edition with 4 new classic cars, reworked damage and handling, drivers retiring in career and others coming up from F2, and a Podium Pass
    704 Nascar Heat 5: We added DNF's and Test Mode and "reworked" the paint scheme editor

  • @barrettpolhemus3475
    @barrettpolhemus3475 4 роки тому +135

    The “Pro League” is a joke. It amazes me how NASCAR can take something like that more seriously than the Coca-Cola iRacing Series, because that is 100 times better and realistic than the “Pro” shit-show.

    • @tombrunetti3000
      @tombrunetti3000 4 роки тому +8

      I think that even shows how much NASCAR as an organization views these games.

    • @joshuaw_270
      @joshuaw_270 4 роки тому +2

      Barrett Polhemus it’s like they r trying to copy the fia nations and manufacturers cup from GT Sport but fail miserably

    • @DestructorMe1999
      @DestructorMe1999 4 роки тому +3

      I agree, but I think it has to do with the higher amount of people with Heat. iRacing costs a good bit of money, and is a bit secular due to its realism which makes it more of a niche, but a ton more people have a regular game console and can go pick up Heat.

    • @CRAFTCITYplus
      @CRAFTCITYplus 4 роки тому +1

      Totally agree. The game IS not and HAS not been ready for an esports league. It’s an embarrassment and the “drivers” are nothing more than a bunch of grown men living in their parents’ basement who should be embarrassed to be part of the league and ashamed of the way they represent not just the game, but nascar as a brand. If 704Games and Nascar truly wanted to produce content for an esports league that would SELL, they’d choose drivers with talent and the social awareness to be in front of a camera and know how to speak eloquently. Sorry to say representing a brand is all about image. And these guys, give off the most asinine image conceivable.

    • @brg9759
      @brg9759 3 роки тому

      @@Kingsammich2 I’ve watched I racing the drivers are waaaaay more chill

  • @dngnascar
    @dngnascar 4 роки тому +67

    2:03
    *Matt Larson has entered the chat*

  • @BlackFlagsMatter
    @BlackFlagsMatter 4 роки тому +131

    Got mad love for 704 and some of the Pro Leaguers. The attitudes from some players in it just turn me off unfortunately...

    • @AlanNadeauIII
      @AlanNadeauIII 4 роки тому +5

      Facts.

    • @joshuaw_270
      @joshuaw_270 4 роки тому +1

      Black Flags Matter same with gt sport fia championships

    • @Dual_80
      @Dual_80 4 роки тому +5

      Sorry i dont speak wrong, the heat series is straight T R A S H

    • @kolbycheeseracing2949
      @kolbycheeseracing2949 4 роки тому

      I wish there was a deal where you can kick dirty players during races

    • @terskatti4994
      @terskatti4994 4 роки тому

      liar

  • @fishproductions22
    @fishproductions22 4 роки тому +51

    Waiting for a good NASCAR Heat game is like being a Detroit Lions fan. You always think it might be the year, having relatively decent expectations, but it always comes out to be a disappointment

    • @dngnascar
      @dngnascar 4 роки тому +7

      Waiting for a good NH game is like waiting for Timmy Hill to win something other than an iRace

    • @ethanf1
      @ethanf1 4 роки тому +1

      A Formula 1 analogy: Waiting for a good NASCAR Heat game is like waiting for it to actually be Ferraris year

    • @TheNewsChannel
      @TheNewsChannel 4 роки тому

      @@dngnascar hes probably won a race on this game but then again haven't we all

    • @Weregonnalose
      @Weregonnalose 4 роки тому +2

      That is true. Except when we spend money on the Detroit Lions, we are called die hard fans lol

    • @sebastianjoseruizmorales8534
      @sebastianjoseruizmorales8534 4 роки тому

      Waiting for a good NASCAR Heat game is like being a DCEU fan

  • @HalfEliteRacing
    @HalfEliteRacing 4 роки тому +174

    I was this close to getting heat 5, but at the last second, I decided to get F1 2020. It’s just a better game with more improvements.

    • @ethanf1
      @ethanf1 4 роки тому +11

      F1 2020 is one of my favorite racing games of all time at the moment and I have gotten every NASCAR game since Inside Line and I think that stops at Heat 4 because I'm not getting Heat 5 most likely

    • @DraxixDude
      @DraxixDude 4 роки тому

      @@ethanf1 Yeah I am hoping they discontinue it so we have no nascar game to play anymore. Stupid inbreds

    • @MoNeenja
      @MoNeenja 4 роки тому +20

      Wish Codemasters would grab the NASCAR license

    • @troke3207
      @troke3207 4 роки тому +3

      @@MoNeenja same they would make a good NASCAR game

    • @rileyracer5566
      @rileyracer5566 4 роки тому +3

      I’m just getting both

  • @derrikecope137
    @derrikecope137 4 роки тому +37

    You can’t have a good video game when you leave out the 1990 Daytona 500 champ. I should be in the game as a legend.

    • @derrikecope137
      @derrikecope137 4 роки тому +6

      Brennan Poole you are correct. You’ll get one next year sir.

    • @salty_jedi
      @salty_jedi 4 роки тому +1

      I'm pretty sure it's the same kid running all these fake Driver accounts. You do you kid, had me going for a second. Keep up the good work.

    • @derrikecope137
      @derrikecope137 4 роки тому

      Salty Jedi I am Derrike Cope.

    • @salty_jedi
      @salty_jedi 4 роки тому

      @@derrikecope137 you might be.

    • @salty_jedi
      @salty_jedi 4 роки тому

      @Brennan Poole that's cool someone has a fake allgaier fake chris Fontaine fake kyle Larson. All with about 7 subs

  • @idkplayer
    @idkplayer 4 роки тому +60

    Jaret said hold my beer I’m going in LMAO

  • @nicksheeder1757
    @nicksheeder1757 4 роки тому +41

    These are my problems:
    - I don’t like how cars can’t retire from A race after a big wreck. If you wreck and cars get damage, those go to the garage. It seems really dumb for 40 or 39 cars to finish a race at Talladega.
    Speaking of crashes. Why can’t you ever create a “big one”? At talladega or Daytona I only see like 3-4 cars going sideways, the cars should be able to create like a 8-9 wreck.
    I want an option to retire from a race If im having a bad race and im Tired, pls give me the option to end.
    During green flag pit stops, PLS FOR FUCKS SAKE make the cars give us a warning when they pit so we know to get out of the way,
    Wrecks should happen from any car and not just me
    I don’t the already custom paint schemes, let us design it different shapes and effects, not pre made
    Weather should be added, rain, should be added to make it more intense, the yellow can come out for maybe 1-2 min then go green or under yellow, the checkered flag waves and its over.
    Lastly, it’s ridiculous, but I would like to have an option to create your own customized schedule.

    • @JP-qm9up
      @JP-qm9up 4 роки тому +5

      in championship mode in heat 5 u can create your own schedule, lol u got ur wish

    • @nicksheeder1757
      @nicksheeder1757 4 роки тому

      j p So I can replay the spring vegas race with Sonoma? And replace Nh with Gateway

    • @JP-qm9up
      @JP-qm9up 4 роки тому +2

      @@nicksheeder1757 yes u can move sonoma up to there, only bad thing is u cant add non cup tracks to the cup series, but u can make whatever kind of schedule u want besides that. if u want 36 daytona 500s u can do that, also u dont have to do all 36 races either, and u dont have to have the playoffs as well.

    • @Vixen1525
      @Vixen1525 2 роки тому

      And a career mode with the option to have several sponsors than just one. They can be fictional too

  • @NASCARFAN93100
    @NASCARFAN93100 4 роки тому +23

    As much as I'm having fun with NASCAR Heat 5
    Even I know it's NASCAR Heat 4 upgraded
    And it would be a lot worse for NASCAR Gaming if EA Sports was still their developer
    Considering how terrible Electronic Arts is today

  • @sulphurous2656
    @sulphurous2656 4 роки тому +31

    3:51 "A really major de-evolution"
    I see what you did there.

  • @GGRTL1
    @GGRTL1 4 роки тому +32

    There are a lot of things wrong with this series, graphics, playability, network, and lack of customization. We shouldn't have to deal with this year after year, especially in this era. The PS4/Xbox One gen has been a huge disappointment. It's such a bad look when games 2 generations older are more enjoyable than this.

  • @TheCusterFan
    @TheCusterFan 4 роки тому +36

    Finally someone calls out 704 on there bull! I'm so tired of them as a company. They've wasted over 200,000 dollars on the "pro" league which is just a bunch of egos with a few actual good people. We need a new company to come in and save Nascar video games, and it doesn't help Nascar heat is trying to scan 50-70 bucks on a roster update with test sessions

    • @LuckyRowdy88
      @LuckyRowdy88 4 роки тому +7

      Preach
      If you keep buying crappy games they will keep making crappy games

    • @packisbetter90
      @packisbetter90 4 роки тому +2

      Pro league sucks. Stupid they tried something like that from a video game. Same bs with MUT on Madden. The game was still ok til that ruined it

  • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
    @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT 4 роки тому +66

    As much as I adore 704Games, yeah I can see the criticism.
    Where’s the caution replay? Why do we have strict or relaxed cautions? Whatever happened to cautions on and off options? Why the HELL do we have eSports for Heat Pro League? It’s stupid and we didn’t even ask for that! Maybe if they were not focusing on eSports, maybe the Heat Games would be a bit better (no offense to Heat Pro League racers)
    As much as they improve each year, there are some stuff we STILL NEED and ask and we are still waiting :/
    At least they are not EA Sports.

    • @cito1101
      @cito1101 4 роки тому +3

      The only thing that I have against 704Games is Caution Replays. Like why aren't they in the games???

    • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
      @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT 4 роки тому +2

      Cito Browne I miss caution replays

    • @larsongame4120
      @larsongame4120 4 роки тому

      IanPerez48 FUCK 704

    • @degabruh_
      @degabruh_ 4 роки тому +1

      SammyInABox 1 it’s sad that we still play nr2003 instead of any other games. It’s the best NASCAR game created, and it shouldn’t be

    • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
      @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT 4 роки тому

      SammyInABox 1 NR2003 isn’t a console game. That’s completely different from the NASCAR Heat games or other NASCAR console games

  • @whatincarnation95
    @whatincarnation95 4 роки тому +16

    You were right. This video is a controversial NASCAR gaming video.

  • @cughan_9482
    @cughan_9482 4 роки тому +8

    They need to fix the cars when braking. The braking issue makes road course impossible to race competitively.

  • @crazybut6641
    @crazybut6641 4 роки тому +30

    How do u not have caution replays in 5 games I mean they have have a replay mode after the race ffs

    • @needsmetal
      @needsmetal 4 роки тому

      Had that in Dirt to Daytona why not now

  • @TheCusterFan
    @TheCusterFan 4 роки тому +21

    I gotta disagree about the plate racing, unless you use a custom setup, the high line doesn't work

    • @evannuh-koo-la4054
      @evannuh-koo-la4054 4 роки тому +2

      I have found the high line a little prevailing by not have the pedal to the metal all the time and letting off a little bit

    • @crazybut6641
      @crazybut6641 4 роки тому

      Ya it’s pretty ass idk why people like it so much

    • @GodzillaGaming111
      @GodzillaGaming111 4 роки тому

      For some reason if your in a online lobby people go to the high line and it works. Maybe it’s because there are so many crashes and small packs are around and people make more moves.

    • @packisbetter90
      @packisbetter90 4 роки тому

      They always just assume everyone runs customs. I never liked them much really

    • @Carshtime
      @Carshtime 4 роки тому +5

      Eutechnyx had way better plate racing.

  • @noahfrankel7966
    @noahfrankel7966 4 роки тому +10

    Personally, I love these games (besides heat evolution) and think they are fun. None of these bugs and glitches happen to me and are not a problem. I enjoy playing the games in this series and like to play them a lot!

  • @jh60thegoat
    @jh60thegoat 4 роки тому +9

    I agree, I feel like 704 is just like EA and is missing so many cool features that were in older games

  • @RobDutz9
    @RobDutz9 4 роки тому +8

    You know it's bad when you tell someone to play the Eutechnyx games.

    • @P8nda
      @P8nda 3 роки тому

      Inside Line was okay

  • @jamesdunn553
    @jamesdunn553 4 роки тому +23

    A couple of things:
    The NASCAR Heat Games were built using the Unity Engine. That engine is so cheap, you only have so much to go with it. NASCAR Heat 4/5 is basically the limit where Unity could have gone. The next installment on the PS5/XSX is allegedly going to be built on a brand new game engine made by Motorsport Games.
    With that in mind, NASCAR Heat is usually released in September, Heat 5 came out now so that the developer can have more time with the new engine and make something that's not Heat Evolution.
    I get it. You're upset, and your patience is running thin. But, I think time is our greatest ally in perfecting.

    • @VenkCutterman
      @VenkCutterman 4 роки тому +3

      Keep in mind they’ve made 5 entries, and they still aren’t getting it. But yeah, you’re right about how they’re using a Unity engine and I hope Heat 6 makes tons of improvement and listen to fans. If not, so be it

    • @AlanNadeauIII
      @AlanNadeauIII 4 роки тому +3

      Holy fucking underrated comment

    • @captainfordgunz1995
      @captainfordgunz1995 4 роки тому +4

      I couldn't have said it better myself buddy. All we can do is try to support them, and come together for our love of racing. As long as they keep most of the improvements that they've made up to this point, and keep getting better I think things will be looking up. I got Heat 5, and I know I'm still going to enjoy it anyways. It may not be perfect, but I don't mind waiting a little longer if it means we get a great game.

    • @NASCARFAN93100
      @NASCARFAN93100 4 роки тому +2

      I also couldn't have said it better myself

    • @josiah7672
      @josiah7672 4 роки тому +3

      Man I've heard that excuse so many times from video game apologists. If you as a company know a game is not going to be up to standards due to the game engine, then don't make a game anyway to scam your consumers for a quick money grab.

  • @OriginalBigBry
    @OriginalBigBry 4 роки тому +11

    Thank you for this video Jaret! Constructive criticism is needed to improve the series.

    • @AlanNadeauIII
      @AlanNadeauIII 4 роки тому +6

      More than that honestly. 704 games needs to stop catering to the Pro Leaguers so fucking much and work on the game that WE as the consumers are getting.

    • @svech37
      @svech37 4 роки тому +1

      say that to madden

  • @NASCARFan18_
    @NASCARFan18_ 4 роки тому +8

    “People have been playing the worst NASCAR game ever. They would’ve had a drop around 500 bucks on the series”
    That’s me!

  • @TheUnsilentMajorityBigmo-ev8sr
    @TheUnsilentMajorityBigmo-ev8sr 4 роки тому +13

    Heat=Trash
    Eutechnyx=trash
    It’s hard to believe that games 15-20 years old are better. Doesn’t make sense.

    • @tedioussugar384
      @tedioussugar384 4 роки тому +4

      Heat is trash, yes.
      But Eutechnyx did have some things going for them, like the paint booth and the handling and damage models. The main problems with Eutechnyx were the AI, and thats about it.
      Having bought and played Heat 4 for 6 seasons in career mode now, i get so bored that i dont do Cup races becuase the handling sucks and my car looks awful from a livery standpoint.

    • @jason-zx2ju
      @jason-zx2ju 4 роки тому +3

      eutechnyx was actually a good game, the accidents just weren’t that great as well as the ai

    • @NickyMorris
      @NickyMorris 4 роки тому +2

      I’ve had more fun on the worst Eutechnyx games than I have on any Heat game, personal preference but I think that speaks volumes.

    • @Newmanfan4ever39
      @Newmanfan4ever39 4 роки тому

      Ea's last two games = 🗑 🚮

    • @jason-zx2ju
      @jason-zx2ju 4 роки тому +1

      Newmanfan4ever39 you mean 09 and 08?

  • @SirKingBoo21
    @SirKingBoo21 4 роки тому +3

    As someone who loves 704 because they listen unlike eutechnix and EA, it upsets me that the bar was set so low because they made heat evolution. They need to get thier shit together for heat 6 or they'll lose the fan's intrest. But just remember, Codemasters never got it right the first time either.

  • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
    @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT 4 роки тому +9

    Speaking of Heat Pro League eSports, I thought NASCAR wasn’t interested in the Heat Pro League and Landon Cassill hated the series

  • @LS__812
    @LS__812 4 роки тому +9

    NASCAR Heat didn't see this Iceberg coming!

  • @rubenisjimmie4835
    @rubenisjimmie4835 4 роки тому +6

    Finally someone speaks up from the community about 704 games. Btw Good video Iceberg

  • @jingles123456789ify
    @jingles123456789ify 4 роки тому +5

    I always assumed the Heat Pro League was a joke. It's nice to get confirmation

  • @RealPenguinTD
    @RealPenguinTD 4 роки тому +6

    My thoughts: Thank you Iceberg for saving my money!

  • @redactedaudioworks9407
    @redactedaudioworks9407 4 роки тому +8

    The next game wont be on the unity engine so thats already a huge plus

  • @joeybeck9727
    @joeybeck9727 4 роки тому +8

    Idk player is annoying and he cheats in the races

  • @rickyevans517
    @rickyevans517 4 роки тому +4

    yes the games aren’t the best, there’s no doubt about it especially when you compare them to the early nascar games by EA. I’m not defending them but to be honest this is like pretty much every annual game that comes out: sucks, buggy and basically a copy and paste from last years. It’s basically become the norm for games now and it’s atrocious. At least 704 seems like they’re trying and seems like there might be some upgrades in the future, while ea and 2k basically ignore their communities and do just as much changes to their games as tiny 704 does. video games as a whole honestly have these issues and need to change

    • @agomes2448
      @agomes2448 4 роки тому

      Codemasters does quite well with the F1 series. Improving the physics and adding new features every time without a lot of bugs. I’d love to see them tackle a NASCAR game.

  • @TheElDoctoro24
    @TheElDoctoro24 4 роки тому +17

    Cross out 4, etch in 5. Hopes everyone has dementia in 2020

  • @CD-5420
    @CD-5420 4 роки тому +7

    I would give it a break, the game just came out, and I can reason a lot with this video, like caution replays, settings, and the graphics. But, I’ve been with it ever since the WORST NASCAR game. And yes, it does improve every time, and 704 does have nice people, but they do need to step it up NH6.

  • @hurricane5758
    @hurricane5758 4 роки тому +2

    I was playing heat 4 career with STRICT YELLOWS, and I spun out on the middle of the track, and my car was doing burnouts for no reason and I was hitting stuff because of it, and there was NO yellow

  • @ghost10four64
    @ghost10four64 4 роки тому +18

    I don’t see how someone can get mad about a pass under the yellow lines in an arcade game. If they’re so picky about shit like that, they should go play iRacing.

    • @MrKillerToad
      @MrKillerToad 4 роки тому

      The issue, is that they're likely not good at iracing and claim it's too serious... jokes

    • @chineselemonkitty717
      @chineselemonkitty717 4 роки тому

      Killertoad people take everything too seriously lmao😂 but I get what you mean, I don’t play it but I heard the membership is a little bit high

    • @MrKillerToad
      @MrKillerToad 4 роки тому

      @@chineselemonkitty717 eh, it keeps off the forza type players. It's a great place to race and can trust the other drivers, while being able to avoid driving out of your mirror lol

    • @cco53587
      @cco53587 4 роки тому

      Even iRacing doesn't technically have a rule against it.

  • @rosumin38
    @rosumin38 3 роки тому +1

    Honestly Nascar should re think their whole approach when it comes to marketing through games.
    1. Pull the plug on the Heat series and start fresh with an established racing developer.
    2. Give another licence to a developer to make a game targeted towards the sim racing market - NR2003 is still being played and supported by modders to this day so the demand is there.
    3. Licence the cars out to the Gran Turismo and Forza series. They very popular cars in GT5/6 (especially online) and the exposure would be greater than what any Nascar game could achieve on its own.

  • @timechanger9162
    @timechanger9162 4 роки тому +1

    NASCAR 2015 was my favorite because any lane works. You can run outside inside it just depends on if you can run that lane. The game was more realistic when hitting cars.

  • @tonygeinzer6034
    @tonygeinzer6034 4 роки тому +19

    I feel like Steve O'Donnell needs to take a long hard look at 704's Contract. I would say Posthaste, Iceberg that I would want to see a Full NASCAR Simulator like I want to see IRP and the Springfield and DuQuion Miles, and the abilities to develop and I would feel like it is inconsistent to analog NASCAR and I would shriek at Henderson being a field filler and to say it is not Drew Carey Quality is an understatement and that at least had April Fool's or Webcam Episodes.

  • @patrickobrien4642
    @patrickobrien4642 4 роки тому +2

    They gotta fix the bugs before they put out a new game. I'd rather have them release a finished game in November than release the same game from last year in July. Kind of like NTG:Inside Line, how that was released in November 2012, but had a 2013 season update in the spring.
    Loved the Fall Back Down Instrumental in the back.

  • @CarsonElc12
    @CarsonElc12 4 роки тому +2

    I don’t think anyone accounts the unity engine which he also fails to discuss. Which will be changed for heat 6 into a new engine they are using, along with a partnership with a large motorsports company. Heat 6 will be great, but I believe you should still support these developers.

    • @spartan18s93
      @spartan18s93 4 роки тому

      Sonic team work on a new engine for sonic forces and it wasn’t great. So don’t take that for a good sign

  • @user-bj9jp3yy6z
    @user-bj9jp3yy6z 4 роки тому +4

    I don’t think Heat 5 is that bad. Maybe its just cause I am used to buying Madden every year...

  • @fabriciolamana4106
    @fabriciolamana4106 3 роки тому +1

    A big complain I have with the Heat games are: The spotter does not work, I liked using the cockpit cam but since the spotter doesn't help any bit, neither there is that old nascar game feature where in the hud that showed the cars that were around you, I had to change my cam, thank you 704.

  • @macdaddy67
    @macdaddy67 4 роки тому +8

    NASCAR Heat 4 is decent, i’ll say that. The other games were pretty bad. I think NASCAR fans are just very hard to please and especially with games

    • @mistaTVD3199
      @mistaTVD3199 4 роки тому +2

      Nascar Heat 4 is a solid game. I think people have so frustrated at how they never really reached the heights of 03-05. I dont appreciate Ice spreading such negativity on the series as it has improved a lot. Heat 5 didnt improve much, but if the new physics engine is great Heat 6 it's so worth. It's a $50 game, not really worth getting upset with.

  • @davidroberts612
    @davidroberts612 4 роки тому +3

    Titles video "Low Expectations," goes on to say why he has high expectations.

    • @davids.7567
      @davids.7567 4 роки тому +3

      I know. It's like he's forcing others to only like the older games. Not everyone is going to like the older games, and it's not like the world's going to end if a few bad games come out.

  • @owenlawrence380
    @owenlawrence380 4 роки тому +14

    “You’re game is supposed to get better each time”
    Metal Gear Rising Revengance: Well yes, but actually no

  • @the9der352
    @the9der352 3 роки тому +2

    Don't think I've heard The Iceberg this angry...

  • @TimiVision1
    @TimiVision1 4 роки тому +2

    I can say right around when heat 2 came out I was one of the 704 defenders, once the 4th game was released my patience had ran out
    I only played 4 for online since I had made so many friends racing in online lobbies and that’s pretty much it. Im sorry but if it takes them 4 games to add simple feature like a damn track map, and 5 games to add private test sessions, then it would probably take them til the end of their contract to make a game that would be considered ‘kinda good’ if they follow the trend (I have my doubts)
    Heat Evolution, 2, and 3 made all of the Eutechnyx games look like game of the year contenders and that’s saying something.

  • @DennyDeliversYT
    @DennyDeliversYT 4 роки тому +6

    Jaret has become full gamer mode... three video game vids three days in a row lol

  • @whoasked9500
    @whoasked9500 4 роки тому +4

    I'm sorry, I don't care what anyone says. I don't like the Heat games. I know they've improved, but they still suck, I'm not gonna lie. I had a better time playing the fucking Eutechnyx games, and those were awful as well (Except Inside Line, that one was actually good). Like, I'd honestly rather go back and play NASCAR Inside Line and all of the EA NASCAR games from 07 on back. It's stupid. The F1 games currently are truly something special, go play those instead of games like Heat 5, Heat 4, Heat 3, and ESPECIALLY Heat 2 and Heat Evolution.

    • @whoasked9500
      @whoasked9500 4 роки тому

      @Matthew Oppliger And a deeper career mode, fantasy tracks, and a few other small features, but yeah you're right.

  • @chaseelliott8578
    @chaseelliott8578 4 роки тому +2

    I will get the games only to race new paint schemes and make my own schedule. I don't care what anyone else says chase's paint schemes this year are fire

  • @austinreed5805
    @austinreed5805 4 роки тому +5

    NASCAR Heat 6 will be like NASCAR Heat 5 but with a graphics upgrade.

  • @mandude03VideosYT
    @mandude03VideosYT 4 роки тому +25

    I've never played a NASCAR Heat game ever
    Other than Heat Mobile

    • @hepecraft1564
      @hepecraft1564 4 роки тому +3

      Heat mobile still sucks

    • @UpperGrooveRacing
      @UpperGrooveRacing 4 роки тому +1

      Same

    • @DL-nn1ws
      @DL-nn1ws 4 роки тому +3

      It does, but at least it was free. But yeah it was a humongous peace of shit, even NASCAR manager is better (and it’s not that great)

    • @ChevyBuddy
      @ChevyBuddy 4 роки тому

      You've seen it all lol

    • @DL-nn1ws
      @DL-nn1ws 4 роки тому

      Who?

  • @TheRealYungCub
    @TheRealYungCub 4 роки тому +2

    I was really impressed and happy with the handling in Heat 4. I won’t be buying the new one until it’s $30 or less ($30 may be a stretch) because that’s the amount of effort that went into it. I warned people it was a rush to make a new one and I was laughed at on SM. Hope you enjoy your half ass game guys

  • @ChuckyLarms
    @ChuckyLarms 3 роки тому +1

    Simple, no market competition. It was the same problem EA had when it became exclusive. No benchmark to beat except the last trash game. That’s why they say “we polished the turd”. The game needs competing developers but sadly it’s not popular enough to support that.

  • @dylandesrosiers8787
    @dylandesrosiers8787 2 роки тому +1

    I remember playing heat 5 a while ago and qualifying pole. I slowed down a bit and spun out the guy in second sending the whole field into chaos. Well, I would have if the crashes worked in the game. I don’t get how you can send a car spinning into the main pack and have smoke and spinning cars everywhere but in the end only about 7 cars are involved, if that. On top of that, only the one I hit went to the pits for damage and the other cars just continued the whole race with smashed in bumpers. I hope ignition is good…

  • @thejman3489
    @thejman3489 4 роки тому +1

    Me over here playing Nascar '08 on my PS2 barreling down the straight at Watkins Glen not being able to see where the turn is because the graphics are 360p.

  • @nascaralert4504
    @nascaralert4504 4 роки тому +3

    Why complain about something that isn't going to change anytime soon.

    • @TimiVision1
      @TimiVision1 4 роки тому +2

      Because staying silent won’t help either

    • @joshuaw_270
      @joshuaw_270 4 роки тому +1

      Nascar alert it’s not gonna be better unless people speak out or quit. I quit along with nascar all together. Found the games and the real thing getting boring.

    • @nascaralert4504
      @nascaralert4504 4 роки тому

      @@joshuaw_270 there's no point complaining about this game you're doing all that they can with the unity engine which is absolutely horrible which they are replacing next year with their own engine so what of putting out some video complained about the game when it's going to change very soon

    • @nascaralert4504
      @nascaralert4504 4 роки тому

      @@TimiVision1 what's the point complain about the game that's going to change very soon and be very different next year they have to use the unity engine one more time which is absolute garbage next year they get to make their own engine of some sort or new game engine for the game which will make the game so much better plus I'll be on the new next-generation consoles it's not that people are just making excuses for them and ignoring all the issues it's because everyone knows that it's all going to change very soon

    • @TimiVision1
      @TimiVision1 4 роки тому

      Nascar alert I get that they’re going to use a new engine for the next gen consoles but that doesn’t guarantee that it’ll be good, yes I’m sure that it’ll be better than the other 5 but just like Jaret said in his video, having each game better than the last isn’t hard to do

  • @Mason-xl9un
    @Mason-xl9un 3 роки тому +1

    They need to bring back some old stuff like showing us what happens on a caution and we pick what lane we drive in if we were in 1st on a restart

  • @dyllin
    @dyllin 4 роки тому +1

    When the biggest bragging point of the new game was having testing knew it was screwed

  • @nascaralert4504
    @nascaralert4504 4 роки тому +3

    NASCAR heat 4 was about the physics not just the track map! Lol

  • @MGCardaropoli
    @MGCardaropoli 4 роки тому

    It took me until 9 mins in to realize you were playing Rancid in the background. Hell yea dude. And well said.

  • @blinkzane2023
    @blinkzane2023 4 роки тому +1

    If they could take iracing physics and heat racing graphics (minus motion blur) and mesh them together we would have an almost perfect game.

  • @darthkylo
    @darthkylo 4 роки тому +1

    The game isn't crappy, it is definitely an improvement from heat evolution, their first game. Sure it has problems and issues, but its not a simulation like iracing, so I don't think it deserves all the hate gets. If you don't like the game, don't buy it. If your gonna complain, put it in a constructive form instead of a complain about everything form. You can't except a company to make a perfect game, no game is perfect.

  • @nickstading3873
    @nickstading3873 4 роки тому +2

    It seems we will have to play thunder 2004 or inside line for the rest of our lives.

  • @RyanBorges
    @RyanBorges 4 роки тому +1

    What’s funny is the sheer amount of laziness that went into the copy and paste.. they couldn’t even be bothered to update victory lane trophies that say 2019, the heat 4 logos to heat 5, or the monster energy logo to the new cup series logo 😂

  • @chef572007
    @chef572007 4 роки тому +1

    In my opinion the problem with the heat series is that there to many glitch in the frist day. They also put drivers in cup series that aren't driving in cup now .But the thing that take cake paint booth.I don't even have to explain how it is to others games. That is all

  • @maxbellan4955
    @maxbellan4955 4 роки тому +2

    "You Want A Cookie?' lol

  • @jordantrejo
    @jordantrejo 4 роки тому

    You touched on everything wrong with the game in 10 minutes and everything right about the game in 1 minute... you spoke the truth

  • @caiden6443
    @caiden6443 4 роки тому +6

    2:01 *SOFTDRINKTV has entered the chat*

  • @real_lemon8202
    @real_lemon8202 4 роки тому +13

    They did kinda handicap themselves when they chose to use the Unity engine.

  • @harleygray192
    @harleygray192 4 роки тому

    Thank you so much for finally making this video.

  • @scottpeters371
    @scottpeters371 4 роки тому +1

    I bought Heat 3 and 4 on deep discount as part of Humble Bundles and played both. I still do not feel a need to pay full retail for Heat 5.

  • @iforgettolikegoodvideosony5929
    @iforgettolikegoodvideosony5929 4 роки тому

    It just blows my mind that a caution almost never comes out when I spin out. But the caution always comes out when I'm leading laps trying to win a race, or when a competitor gets a little loose

    • @sugarrushnascarman1886
      @sugarrushnascarman1886 3 роки тому +1

      What blows mine is the damage. Compare ea's tire marks and the scratches from the walls on the card's sides to 704's. The 704 ones don't look as good, and no marks whatsoever. Irritates the living daylights outta me. Does this affect you too?

  • @MJForever1999
    @MJForever1999 4 роки тому +1

    Heat 4 was definitely the best game in this series. At least the devs was honest about it being a copy tho

  • @ChrisChrisfilms
    @ChrisChrisfilms 4 роки тому +1

    I’ve switched over to PC to play Iracing and I have no plans going back to NASCAR heat. If code masters does pick up the nascar title I would go back to play again.

  • @01Zipang
    @01Zipang 4 роки тому

    Remember when nascar thunder 2004 had pre-race intros and would tell you the story of the season and if a certain driver was struggling or performing well?
    Remember how 2006/2007 introduced teammates that would work with other teammates rather then random drivers if given the chance?
    Remember how 2005 had fun fantasy tracks like old spice raceway?
    remember when you could re-live major moments from nascar in thunder challenges and earn rewards such as custom paintschemes and thunder points to unlock more special features?
    Remember how nascar thunder games had multiple paintscheme options for many cars? Including some from previous years like the option to race harvicks rookie scheme?
    Remember Ace moneymaker?

  • @joeylogano6133
    @joeylogano6133 4 роки тому +1

    “Heat 5” could’ve should’ve been a fucking DLC. Not a copy and paste game from heat 4 that they are trying to sell for $70. Nascar 15 costed much less on release date because it was a copy and paste game from Nascar 14. And Heat 5 cost $70. What the hell?!?!

  • @aidenperry2900
    @aidenperry2900 4 роки тому +4

    Can't wait for heat 6 with a new engine

  • @Killer-Of-Night
    @Killer-Of-Night 4 роки тому

    Something people need to remember about Codemasters, its their 11th F1 game (12th if you count F1 2009) Not to mention some games were ok (F1 2015). Codemasters have also been making racing games non stop since the late 90's they have decades of experience to go off of. They also have a good in house engine to build off of (EGO Engine). 704 pretty much pulled Monster Games out of the mud, after not making a major game since 2004 (TD: Eve of Destrution) and had them work with the Unity Engine. Also Heat 5 wasn't expected to have any major updates anyway, since Monster Games and 704 parted ways.
    I feel like Heat 6 or whatever next years game is what will determine what 704 will go with the franchise, will they pull themselves together and give us the game we deserve? Or will it just be the similar strategy that EA and Eutechnyx played late in their time with the NASCAR license.

  • @DaytonaPrototypes
    @DaytonaPrototypes 4 роки тому

    I play NH4 and the biggest issue I have is that you can't just run a partial schedule in any series in career. I don't want to run every truck or Xfinity race. NASCAR 2005 and 2006 allowed you to hire drivers to drive your cars in career.

  • @cinnamoncrunch8765
    @cinnamoncrunch8765 4 роки тому +1

    NASCAR told them to make game bad to hide over driving the car secret.

  • @emiliorod24
    @emiliorod24 4 роки тому +1

    That Jameis Winston Tom Brady comment got me laughing 😂😂😂

  • @RogerDatSoldier
    @RogerDatSoldier 3 роки тому +1

    I wonder Iceberg if tried the GOOD Heat games. That is Heat, Heat 2002 and Dirt to Daytona. Trust me that still is a fun games to play.

  • @drewgraves06
    @drewgraves06 4 роки тому

    What I hate about cautions is that if a car wrecks it will stay in it’s position when the caution comes out instead of going to the rear

  • @jaytonskari8613
    @jaytonskari8613 4 роки тому

    Everything you say here makes perfect sense. But the point that needs to be brought up is that 704 games has recently been acquired by Motorsport games. This is the company behind the F1 and Dirt Rally games. With this, the next game will be more likely than not be run on an engine that is way better than unity. Because unity isn’t quite the best engine for this series. I get where you’re coming from and what you’re saying makes sense. I just felt I should bring that up.

  • @AgendaGaming923
    @AgendaGaming923 4 роки тому +1

    I think Nascar heat 5 is great it's better than Nascar 06 total team control and Nascar 09. It's actually a challenge and I love it

  • @AutoRockinRacing94
    @AutoRockinRacing94 4 роки тому +1

    F1 2020 and it was a no brainer which game I wanted. Not both at this rate since it feels like the same as 4.

  • @bobwalsh3751
    @bobwalsh3751 2 роки тому +1

    Low expectations and even lower results. FTFY

  • @noahfrankel7966
    @noahfrankel7966 4 роки тому +2

    NASCAR heat 5 is a super fun game and I have barely anything against it besides the driver ratings are messed up

  • @H0LLOW_PRIV
    @H0LLOW_PRIV 4 роки тому +1

    NASCAR Heat is becoming Madden

  • @danksinatra3714
    @danksinatra3714 4 роки тому +2

    DNF’s been missing for years. Where’s the immersion at?

  • @kyleschafer6275
    @kyleschafer6275 4 роки тому +1

    Remember when hated eutechnyx and wished someone else had the license? Don't think im defending 704. But I've alwayd wondered what would've happened if Eutechnyx didn't go into "oh fuck it, we don't care anymore" after Inside line got mixed reviews.