The New Worst NASCAR Video Game? (ft. Idk Player)
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- Which is worse, NASCAR Ignition or Heat Evolution?
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For all of Evolution's problems, I have to give it credit for one thing: I have never once seen anyone actually clip through the track. So, it is better than Ignition because, even though it isn't even sort of fun, it is actually playable.
I’m not defending ignition but heat evolution is hot garbage that’s the worst nascar game ever made.
For me NASCAR21 IGNITION is definitely the WORST EVER NASCAR GAME. PERIOD.
@@Jmisaprodriver i am hearing NASCAR RUMBLE vibes.
Agreed. The clip at 4:25 is me, that was taken from my first ever race online in NASCAR 21. I raced hundreds of times online in heat evolution and never once clipped through the track and fell endlessly, yet my FIRST RACE online in 21 and it happens. Absolutely terrible
The fact we are debating what game is worst is sad considering the games are less then 6 years apart
NASCAR Busts: Motorsport Games
69th liker
And what’s funny is there way more than a bust
And also the biggest bust ever.
Even more of a bust than Danica Patrick
I can confidently say that NASCAR 21 is the worst NASCAR game. Say what you want about Heat Evolution, it was functional enough that you can play it for at least an hour without experiencing game breaking issues and at least it didn’t need multiple patches in order to implement BASIC NASCAR RULES
Right and we still dont have basic rules working. Free pass, wave arounds etc. Be like a madden game with only some of the nfl rules functioning.
I am terrified of what Motorsport Games will do to IndyCar's first video game in 20 years.
I'm not worried as it sounds like the company may not even be around long enough to release the next NASCAR game...
Dude I don’t even think Motorsport Games will survive another couple weeks. Mr Penske doesn’t want to be part of a company that wants to utilize an NFT Scheme (get rich) and then run and wait for all the negative feedback. This company needs to lose everything I do feel bad for their employees in Russia because of the conflict but there’s no excuse of being exposed for trying to use an NFT scheme to make a profit on such a broken game.
Have you seen their stock? I would be surprised if the company survives the end of the year
@@KingC-way425 happy ramadhan 2022 Jay calloway. 🙏
@@LSTNSCRFN i bet NASCAR 21 is definitely the worst ever NASCAR game.
YESSSS THE VIDEO WE HAVE WAITED FOR. Bring the NASCAR Gaming community to Motorsport Games headquarters and we’ll ignite as an angry protest and mob
Bring the car bomb as well.
1:31 - I think I said that for a *LONG* time before the game was ever released: _Just because the game looks good doesn't mean it'll play. If it doesn't play good, the graphics mean nothing._
Thank you. At least Heat was playable.
I still occasionally play Thunder 2003. Graphics may be crap on my current TV, but you can play the career mode just fine.
@@mbenoit9697 Exactly. I would take poor graphics with good gameplay over bad gameplay and good graphics.
I’m looking forward to the world of outlaws game that was announced. The fact that iRacing is helping with it gives me hope
That would be a very fun game to play. Same for the Indycar game that's supposed to come out soon
@@RhygonGG The Indycar game is being developed by the same company as Nascar 21, who's now on the verge of bankruptcy, so don't get your hopes up. The WOO game isn't actually affiliated with Motorsport games so that alone gives me hope
@@RhygonGG even Ayumu Uehara and Asuna Yuuki and even Lewis Hamilton hate NASCAR21 IGNITION.
@@CatGoomba64 hi Cat Goomba. 🙏
Monster games made the Tony Stewart games..after 2 weeks you've done everything and its lackluster
The difference between this and heat evolution is that heat evolution is so bad it’s almost enjoyable, while this game just makes you wanna break your gaming device
We took 704 games for granted. Considering Nascar is now in the hands of a scam of a company.
704 are still the ones developing this. Motorsport owns them.....The developer yall took for granted were the same people who made Dirt To Daytona in 2002.....that's what the HEAT series was building up to.
@@HisameSymouri1995 even NASCAR THUNDER 2004 PS1 is still way better than Heat Evolution and 21 Ignition.
@@purwantiallan5089 I dont know about all that....NASCAR HEAT Evolution was literally NASCAR HEAT 2002 remastered. I actually enjoyed those old games, so the HEAT series reboot was fun to me.
@@HisameSymouri1995 Right. I meant to say we took Monster Games for granted.
704 did a great job, and I always enjoy playing NASCAR thunder 2004 with a friend of mine on Thursdays and he gets a kick out of it
"just give them time, they'll make it better" yea, here we are months later and the game is still broken. Motorsports Games are complete scam artists. N21 ignition is way worse than any prior Nascar games, it's not even close.
everyone gonna be gangster and trash on Ignition and Evolution…
*…until NASCAR inside line wii edition appears*
Yeah my copy crashed billions of times but the Wiis hardware just wasn’t up to code to handle that game hence why it had a crap ton of limitations
THANK YOU
@@HiyoriAroused hi NASCARDalek48. 🙏
I’m embarrassed to admit that I bought it. Felt like they developed it on a Commodore 64.
Cons of Iracing:
- Stalkers
- Theatre kids
- Joke lobbies
- Bad customer support
- Physics that aren't quite there yet
- Jason Jacoby
- No proper usernames
- No career mode
- Subscription service
- No Rebel flags allowed
- Lacking a lot of tracks from the NASCAR schedule
- Annoying players
This proves why hype is the most dangerous thing. This game is comically bad
All they had to do was merely polish the production value compared to Heat, and tweak the driving physics.
Instead, they set a bar so low it’s beneath the earth’s core.
4:11 Apparently hitting the pace car gets you sent to hell
Don't get me started on the curbs at the indy road course flipping the cars
No the backrooms
@@OrlandoLionFanClub Let's not forget the chicane curb at the Daytona RC.
Kyle Busch and Tom Cruise somehow got away with it.
If you keep doin stuff like that we're gonna lose our s̶p̶o̶n̶s̶o̶r̶ souls.
Fans have some serious rose tinted glasses about the Eutechnyx days. Look up “NASCAR 2013 is a finished game” on UA-cam, and keep in mind that was AFTER a few years of bug fixing and refinement. Not to mention, if you want to talk cut and paste sequels, that series makes Heat 5 look like a revolution
The problem is that we all have/can't afford the gear we need for iracing!
Yeah and it shouldn't be a lot to ask to play nascar on Xbox or PS5 lol
I bought it and was instantly pissed. Wouldn't let me adjust the car to make it loose or tighter. Probably the worse part was qualifying. As soon as I got to take over, you would all of the sudden dropped like 20 mph. I honestly regret buying it, I don't think I played it more than a hour before I said f@#k it.
Same. I got it in December (luckily it was discounted by then so I didn't pay full price) and I instantly hated it. The game just crashes out of no where sometimes. I have never even completed a single online race since it takes so damn long to load and they don't do anything to stop trolls.
Has it been patched?
@@extragoogleaccount6061 Not sure. I haven't played it since the first couple of days after it was released.
@@scottywhittaker287 it's been fixed, at least it doesn't happen to my game on xbox one. More that half the problems they stated never happened to me
I love the NASCAR RUMBLE music playing in the background…now that is a fun game to play
Ignition 21 looks great, but it's so buggy & glitchy, it makes Big Rigs: Over The Road Racing look like a masterpiece.
Hahahahaha. Seems golden. But sadly BIG RIGS is still buggy.
@@purwantiallan5089 At least BIG RIGS is enjoyable.
Nah it's not buggy anymore there is only 2 slight problem that's not really a problem for me. If u are running with them on like a front stretch side by side or right behind them for a while, the well start to literally shift slightly forward. It's not a problem tho
I think this is just the gaming industry in general. Not just Motorsports games. Gaming has been on a decline since like 2013. I recommend watching Emplemons video on gaming he explains very well
Austin Ogonowski pretty much just ended Motorsports games. Literally a scam. Pump and dump. It's incredible really. Not only did hundreds of thousands of fans get scammed, 3 major motorsports series were as well. And if they're not paying attention to this backlash, they deserve all of this
What's even worse is now that MSG is (rumored to be) just an NFT scheme. So its less and less likely we see a NASCAR 22
I hate that NASCAR 21 didn’t have split screen.
I was so dissapointed with this game. I havent bought one for years because they suck so bad. They got me with their hype for this one. Paid the 100 dollar ultimate version and played for about 10 min on Xbox. Cars were sunk into the track and no rearview mirror is absolutely insane. I am more than likely never buying one again until I miss out on an awesome one. Then maybe the next one will be worth it. The F1 games are awesome.
F1 fans hate their game but F1 games actually make you feel like an actual professional driver, they take it seriously, this is what you do in f1 etc, that got me to f1 tbh
There fixing it, trust me they fixed a lot
@@C4r0n1k still no mirror unless you have PC. So dumb. Nex gen console and no mirror. Thats dumb as it gets.
@Philly Cheesesteak and no shit sherlock, ofc they wanna pull out
Quickest game I’ve bought and uninstalled
Austin Ogonoski has a great video out about the truth of Motorsports Games and why Ignition was such a trainwreck. The developer is an NFT scheme. Hate to stay it but unless NASCAR pulls its license this isn't gonna get any better than it is.
NASCAR 21 Ignition was So Bad NASCAR Terminated their contract with Motorsport Games
Kinda perfect timing as it's been revealed Nascar '22 considers adding NFTs and Crypto
Oh god
A couple of glaring glitches I noticed was at Bristol the entire field would just stop ., all 39 other cars in one corner.. or I’d randomly go from 195 to 135mph at Daytona for no reason .. this is a terrible game
This game makes Heat look like a masterpiece.
I spent $100.
oof size :
*MEGA*
This game was so bad that Xbox lowered the price and I only bought it for $20
I still feel like I overpaid
why is this even a debate. evolution is janky and everything but the game worked, points, cautions, lucky dogs, wave arounds, aI being able to do pit stops, the list goes on. it functioned. 21 is a complete broken mess unlike any game before it. and with the news of how they can't even survive through the year and how they are an nft scheme makes this the worst nascaer game ever. lying to investors, claiming that 81 million ppl watch their rFactor stream. When you factor in their business model, yeah this is the absolute worst. who cares if graphics are good, presentation is nice but its just for 1 nice cinematic, no variation and its repetitive. you see it once or twice and its old. stats are awesome but if the whole core of the game is broken that can't save it and i'm a hardcore stat lover. this game is all icing but no cake. But the icing is all old and moldy.
This makes me worried for the IndyCar and BTCC games coming.
My career mode is still broken. I say this every time I see one of these videos, but it’s really fundamentally broken for me. Trying to load into Las Vegas freezes and crashes my game every time. I only bought the game to experience funny glitches, but with how unplayable the game was, even trying to take humor in that was impossible.
I just uninstalled it. I needed space for Elden Ring
It only gets worse when you realize this is the same studio developing the new Indycar game…the first sanctioned Indycar game in 15 years.
Also don't forget a Touring car game. I think there was a European racing truck game, and the fact they got the rights to Le Mans for 10 years.
This is unacceptable. I remember Nascar 98 ......
The folks at NASCAR obviously don't care for video games. How long has it been since we've had a good NASCAR game? I know there's iRacing, but it's not the same, it's expensive and mostly online. We need a good single player game that doesn't require a monthly subscription.
What's stopping them from following the nascar 2003-2006 formula... Is it really that hard?!?
Looking back, I don’t think the extra road courses was worth me getting NI21 over Heat 5. Hope this race series will get a good game for once.
Don't buy a game because it has "potential".
Only buy a game if it is good NOW.
i realized early on that ignition is just rfactor 2, since in rfactor 2 the glitch at 3:57 always happens and launches you
has anyone else see austin ognaskis videos ?? he says motorsports games is just about bankrupt and doesnt have funds to last the year doesnt look like we l see anymore games from these guys.......wots gonna be the future for nascar games ??
how can you still not have a mirror in the game
It's hard to believe that the best Cup games ever made came out from 1994-2003. That was such a long time ago.
Yep. That also makes NASCAR THUNDER 2004 PS1 game looked way better.
2:59 I would say that this is normal, but I've probably watched way too much Wreckfest videos by Soundhead Entertainment
It is NOT the fans' fault that a company run by audacious scammers and financed by incompetent baboons released a piece of software barely worth the printed cover under the plastic wrapper!
The prime example of the famous saying: Wait for reviews.
I'd have to say 21 by far, cause while Heat Evolution is probably the most feature stripped NASCAR game, at least it was actually playable and at least for me, there weren't too many glitches besides some cars occasionally flying high in the air and the infamous pause glitch. As for 21, it probably takes a good 3 minutes to get in a race, online is probably 5, sometimes the game just crashes or you'll be just be staring at your cars roll cage when you try to get in a race. And you can't even create your own driver or car in career mode ;-;
"keep your expectations low and you'll never be disappointed." -by some person I'm too lazy rn to find. At the moment a "Good" Nascar game is far behind us. It either Iracing for the next 10 years or NR2003 for the next 20, pick your poison.
I’m still using Heat 5, the right people can make it enjoyable.
I mostly had problems with the assists, and I am a wheel player.
In high steering assist it pretty much just drives for you and can't go high at Daytona straightaways, medium had the car be very tight, and the low was just out of control for me.
No steering assist which is in my game has some really comfortable gameplay, that is until you are in a pack. I can't make laps with no assist pack racing because the contact physics are so bad. I'd touch somebody on the side and it would spin my car straight into the infield.
This makes the game unplayable for me, you don't have a fun time with either setting off assists, medium is at least decent. It should be like My game heat 3 that has no steering assist, but you can edit the sensitivity and there is no crazy contact physics.
QUESTION: How is a game made in 2003 better than a game made in 2021
Somehow a game made 20 years ago is actually 0alyable and more enjoyable
@@Travis_Hewitt exactly
Me at the start of the video: “hey this game’s graphics don’t look too bad, how is it the worst NASCAR game?”
Me barely halfway through: “this game is a mess”
Some of the glitches look similar to (in my opinion) the worst F1 game, F1 2014. The disappearing into the track glitch is on that game too, so is the illogical physics. The worst thing, however, was the online experience. It was impossible to play online racing against other online racers, there were lag spikes everywhere and because of this, not only couldn't the game place the location of the players in each lobby, but their cars would do all sorts of crazy things due to the lag, like bouncing up and down on the starting grid...even before the race got underway. It was a disaster
I hear you Nascar Rumble theme
I bought it from a key site maybe a week after release for $8 I still feel horrendously ripped off
Oh how we forget how bad nascar the game 2011 was...
For my money, nothing will ever touch 'NASCAR Rumble' on the PS1. What an amazingly fun game.
Same with the thunder games( Thunder 2002- chase for the cup 2005)
Nascar thunder 2004 is still the King
I think the Nascar Rumble music fits perfectly with this video 😁👍
2:58 honestly I kinda want that back lmao (as an option to turn it on of course)
As an Indycar fan, I hope that the new Indycar game coming out next year isn't as bad as this especially considering Motorsport Games is the same developer for the Indycar game as this.
If we truly want the worst game, it’s Evolutions career mode with Ignition’s… everything else. I’m not kidding when I say Inside Line and ‘15 are better alternatives despite Inside Line coming up on 10 years old.
NASCAR heat evolution looked like crap but you could do 100% races with no problems at all
This is a cautionary tale, the reason 704 hadn't added those things that many folks thrashed them for is that they wanted to make an actual, playable game with depth. What good is a paint booth when the game barely functions?
Love the nascar rumble background music! Classic game!
Best game: NASCAR Heat 5
Worst game: NASCAR ‘21
No. Best is Nascar Thunder 2004 PS1 and PS2.
Dude these videos are awesome! Loving your whole channel
I prefer the NASCAR Racing series from Papyrus. There was great modding support for that game (including me). It is the most realistic NASCAR game outside of iRacing (and I believe iRacing is based on the same Physic's engine).
I bought NASCAR The GAME in 2011. It stands today as the only Steam game that I have requested a refund for.
How hard is it to just give us what Heat 4 gave us with the addition of ARCA, fully customizable paint schemes with sponsors, a wide difficulty radius from super easy to hard and realistic, and little things like drivers retiring or changing teams?
That's literally all you've gotta fucking do. But they turn it into rocket science.
I didn’t buy the game, but I am pissed for the people that did. The game’s developers have insulted the intelligence of the NASCAR gaming community by thinking they could pour sugar on sh*t and call it a brownie.
These glitches remind me of my Assetto Corsa with NASCAR mods, Daytona specifically had engine destroying walls. Only difference is that in AC you can fix most mods with the Notepad or the Model Editor that comes with the game, while official Nascar Games barely have any modding posibilities
I think evolution is the worst as it quite literally had nothing good about it. Crappy graphics, little to no features, and the sounds are just terrible. At least Ignition looks good, has cool features, and good physics. Biggest problem I have had with Ignition is the AI
Imagine a world in which Papyrus kept making NASCAR games after NASCAR Racing Season 2003...
Good lord!!! And from what I know about business: the "Get Rich Quick" schemes never work...and the other thing that I was disappointed in was NO XFINITY SERIES and NO CTWS, as part of career mode, or race now, give or take. Because of this, it kind of worries me about L7 Motorsports' IndyCar game worries me.... because this is their "put your money where your mouth is" moment....
Throwing this out there. If Nascar would pay someone to make a good consistent and complete game for their cup serries.
They wouldn't use Iracing for the invitation serries... Just think about that.
I think they spent their whole budget on graphics and fed the debug team and physics team peanuts...
I did hear on dale Jr's podcast today that Iracing is working on a dirt late model game for consoles
It’s even licensed and will be based on the World of Outlaws series.
Man. Glad I didn't get this game. That would've been a waste of money. I was not too excited when I hear that game was coming out. But after watching other people playing this game and complaining about it I was never gonna buy this at all. Hopefully the NASCAR game they create next won't be messed up or glitchy as NASCAR 21 ignition.
I currently have NH5 should i skip nascar 21 (its $19 currently on sale) and wait for the next game?
Ignition is the worst game ever, heat 5 is still playable and where most of my leagues still race in 2022.
Hopefully NASCAR Ignition sees a big turnaround like the one No Man Sky went through.
I'd put Nascar '21 Ignition as the worst game, because it's completly unplayable, I spent 60 bucks for this mess of code for nothing, this is what they bring to the market after two whole years of development? That's just laughable in my opinion.
Cars are on ice all the time, cars suddenly get hyperspeed, the poor physics (I'm sorry, but I can't spin out anybody in this game, they are glued onto the track surface) and lack of key things while driving, like functioning UI, tire and fuel info, the spotter having a rap battle during superspeedway races and in general, the cars don't feel like cars.
I've lost hope for Motorsport Games all together after this, if they can't get their stuff together for 2022, there's no other choice than to hand over the rights to a functional and decent company.
This is by far worse than heat evolution. Heat evolution allowed you to run your own pace lap before you do your actual lap, had trucks and xfinity, had way more gameplay options to choose from, did not glitch as much, had a season mode with your favorite driver, had a finished product, and so on. Nascar Ignition is practically unplayable. The game won't even allow me to race in career mode because it glitches before I can race. The one thing I'll give to Ignition is the soundtrack is great. So was Heat tho. This should not be a debate.
Heat Evo was Cup only.
@@FMecha Good point. I should’ve been clear on my point that is was heat 4 not heat evolution
I’m still baffled how it could have been this bad. I mean it’s not like a racing game is the most ground breaking game over completed to develop.
Ok so here is what I'm going to say about the game:
Everything else sucks BESIDES the online racing and (maybe) the paint booth. That's just it for me.
P.S. you can ask Micahel Mcruz about the online part because we do 40 car lobbies on his streams of the game online and it works when it is in invite only mode.
its even worse for me, ive done nothing to the files and the game crashes before i can even past the intro
I think It’s time for a new studio to make a NASCAR game.
That 4 wide part at 9:08 was intense
This game has potentially killed this entire company for me. I'm extremely extremely unsure about purchasing anything they put out in the future because of how horrible this is. To me it's straight up unplayable.
All I want is NASCAR Racing 3 to work on Win10 .....
3:07 - the flipping contest~
Wish Iracing would help develop something like what they got maybe not all they have but give us three NASCAR series
And NASCAR want out of their contract with the company. That’s how bad it is
As soon as I saw that there would be no trucks or xfinity I pretty much instantly gave up on it glad I didn't get this
Honestly if they were able to take NASCAR Thunder 2004 and just upscale it and update the roster/tracks I'd be happy.
This game is so comically bad it's not even funny. The only hope from here on out is that iRacing retains the exclusive rights to NASCAR and develops a console title. They would be fools not to.
Just remember for all of the people who preordered or spent money on this complete turd, they scammed you, showed you a shiny, well produced trailer and gave you an absolute abomination of a product. MSG deserves every bit of hate they get and will hopefully fold.
That background Nascar Rumble song ❤️