Supremely useful comparison. Thanks gents. I went with the sinker mahogany Bourgeois. If I was still in Springfield it’d have been from y’all, but I’m on down the road. Miss your cedar room for sure, thanks to UA-cam I still get to see the shop and y’all.
Love the video guys. Like you said, the difference was very subtle. It almost sounded like the same guitar was being played throughout the blind test in places. Both are fantastic guitars. It may take a couple of listens to pick up on the subtle nuances of each.
Wow, both are beautiful guitars and sound wonderful. I still don’t know which is which at the time of writing this comment, but the one thing I can hear is that Guitar B sounds more open and roomy, Guitar A sounds tighter and more focused with maybe a hint more of bottom end. It is a very subtle difference but I think I prefer the sound of Guitar B. Either is fantastic. Great video! Now I’m ready to find out which is which!
Thanks for making this video--great idea for a comparison. I was stumped during the pixelated comparison. They sounded almost identical to me. Near the end, I noticed a slight difference in the very beginning of the notes, the articulation. One seemed to have a bit more ring to it. But I couldn't tell if that was a consistent feature or if I was just hearing things. I also wondered if one instrument had more playing time on it to open it up, but they're so new, even the one that's a week older can't have that much more playing time. They're both beautiful, great sounding instruments. Thanks for this video!
Very subtle. Not alot in it for my ears at mid 50's. I'd love a Thompson d-ba. A little too expensive for even a basic model. Great video guy's. I could watch this stuff all day. Dean 🇬🇧
They both sounded fantastic. To my ear guitar B seemed to have a little better separation between the notes; a little more pronounced definition, if you will.
Standard sounds thicker to me, I tend to agree with John's assessment. *I do love John's guitar picking, and Jeremy is a super-tasty mandolin picker. More mando!
Before the results are announced... B is the sinker. Sounded more sparkly in the treble range and more harmonically rich. A sounded a little more inert. Genuinely surprised on the reveal! Even in the reveal portion though, that's still kinda what I'm hearing. The differences are really subtle though.
I agree the sinker was just a hair more crisper and defined. Both sounded great. They’re like fried chicken, which do you prefer? Regular or extra crispy?
The Standard sounds warmer, the Sinker sounds brighter. I have two Martin D-18 to compare the Thompson tones too. I have a 2002 D-18 GE (forward-shifted Adi top). And a 2020 D-18 Authentic 1939 Aged (rear-shifted Adi top) that I call a 39AA. The Standard sounds more like my 39AA, which is a more resonant D-18. After hearing both of these played by John, I'd be leaning more towards the Standard. Very nice video gentlemen!
So odd tho because of what I've heard before this, Sinker is definitely warmer sounding imo. Idk. Could honestly just be the guitar. The top, etc. Who knows.
It's close but I give it to the sinker mahogany. Those sinker guitars all seem to have more power and responsiveness, and this one also had a very nice fuzzy character on the note. The only knock on the sinker guitar is I thought it sounded bright and shrill once or twice, could just be a consequence of how responsive it is so it may be more sensitive to touch dynamics. The standard had a warmer tone and was comparatively sedate in its response.
Send me either one! But then it's a Thompson. I think the Sinker would be better for some songs I sing. BUT maybe Madagascar or Guatemalan Rosewood with Adirondack, 12-fret!
Toss up for me.. could hear the difference but agree it's subtle. I have an ever so slight preference for the raw hog which isn't surprising since I prefer hog to rosewood. But I'd take either and I'm thankful that we have this source of mahogany and that it's not just rotting at the bottom of a river. For looks, some of the sinker is amazing looking too.
@@AcousticShoppe Why? , I thought your were buying and reviewing? You asked the audience to tell us which guitar to review. And when I gave my option you are asking me to tell them to send you. I purchased from hard earned money and found they were great, so I have expressed my view.
Weird because on other sinkers I heard more warmth than regular mahogany. Idk I think too many other factors are at play. Including relief or the action as I heard buzzing on the sinker. Either way I love sinker for finger picking. The notes do jump out. And it sounds beautifully warm when finger picking. But I'm talking ones I've heard and Martins
great video, but I can't detect any difference between them. Maybe I'm a rosewood guy... it would be easier to compare if the two guitars played the same notes each time, rather than switching in random places in the tune.
I’m convinced a high quality straight-grained standard mahogany will sound better than 80% of sinkers. The problem with sinker is you can just toss that name on it and people will spend. I also think it’s tougher to tell good sinker from bad sinker.
I don't know which is which yet.. but B is more punchy and crisp, A is slightly lighter and less responsive. My ear wouldn't care about $600 difference, I'd save up and buy the one that sounds best, but to me that's B. SPOILER!!!! SPOILER, SPOILER, SPOILER:;;;; WOW, my brain thought the sinker must sound like it had more attack etc...I guess being water-logged for so long, the cells take longer to open up. I'd buy the standard...B. it just would perk up more ears...specifically mine.
They are much closer than I really expected. I think I like the sinker a bit better, but for 600 dollars difference I don't think it would be worth it.
unless the guitar maker is purchasing super contraband illegalish wood...there is such a small amount of wood quantity/cost in a guitar price that it's almost silly for the makers to make a big deal about the cost of wood going up. eg. domestic hardwoods like cherry/walnut have gone from $3 to $6 per board foot. Consider a guitar has about 5 board foot total wood (if that) So, even if mahogany went from $12 to $25 b/f you're still looking at a negligible amount vs total guitar cost.
Maybe a tiny difference between the two, certainly not enough to warrant all the hype over sinker mahogany and certainly not nearly enough to come close to justifying the premium paid for sinker that most guitar makers charge. I'm certain that you could get two guitars, both with the same mahogany, and there would be slight differences similar to what was heard between these two guitars because every piece of wood is slightly different. But hey, if it makes somebody feel better about their guitar because they have sinker mahogany, it's their money.
I've been waiting for someone to put out a video like this! Thank you!
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Supremely useful comparison. Thanks gents. I went with the sinker mahogany Bourgeois. If I was still in Springfield it’d have been from y’all, but I’m on down the road. Miss your cedar room for sure, thanks to UA-cam I still get to see the shop and y’all.
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Great video! I thought the differences were subtle but certainly noticeable. Well done!
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They both sound very similar, but the sinker mahogany has better looking back and side figure. Great sounding guitars!
Love the video guys. Like you said, the difference was very subtle. It almost sounded like the same guitar was being played throughout the blind test in places. Both are fantastic guitars. It may take a couple of listens to pick up on the subtle nuances of each.
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Wow, both are beautiful guitars and sound wonderful. I still don’t know which is which at the time of writing this comment, but the one thing I can hear is that Guitar B sounds more open and roomy, Guitar A sounds tighter and more focused with maybe a hint more of bottom end. It is a very subtle difference but I think I prefer the sound of Guitar B. Either is fantastic. Great video! Now I’m ready to find out which is which!
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Thanks for making this video--great idea for a comparison. I was stumped during the pixelated comparison. They sounded almost identical to me. Near the end, I noticed a slight difference in the very beginning of the notes, the articulation. One seemed to have a bit more ring to it. But I couldn't tell if that was a consistent feature or if I was just hearing things. I also wondered if one instrument had more playing time on it to open it up, but they're so new, even the one that's a week older can't have that much more playing time. They're both beautiful, great sounding instruments. Thanks for this video!
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I like the sound
Of the I really like the sinker mahogany a lot. I loved the bark it has.
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I think I like the tone of the one Jeremy is playing, due to the heavy lower tones in the bass sound.
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I LOVE guitar A- punched me between the eyes. When I learned it was sinker mahogany I’m all in for the up charge! 👏👏
Well my wife and wallet will thank me because I seemed like the regular hog better. Great video, loved how you executed it all.
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Very subtle. Not alot in it for my ears at mid 50's. I'd love a Thompson d-ba. A little too expensive for even a basic model.
Great video guy's. I could watch this stuff all day. Dean 🇬🇧
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They both sounded fantastic. To my ear guitar B seemed to have a little better separation between the notes; a little more pronounced definition, if you will.
Standard sounds thicker to me, I tend to agree with John's assessment. *I do love John's guitar picking, and Jeremy is a super-tasty mandolin picker. More mando!
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Before the results are announced... B is the sinker. Sounded more sparkly in the treble range and more harmonically rich. A sounded a little more inert.
Genuinely surprised on the reveal! Even in the reveal portion though, that's still kinda what I'm hearing. The differences are really subtle though.
I agree the sinker was just a hair more crisper and defined. Both sounded great. They’re like fried chicken, which do you prefer? Regular or extra crispy?
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The Standard sounds warmer, the Sinker sounds brighter. I have two Martin D-18 to compare the Thompson tones too. I have a 2002 D-18 GE (forward-shifted Adi top). And a 2020 D-18 Authentic 1939 Aged (rear-shifted Adi top) that I call a 39AA. The Standard sounds more like my 39AA, which is a more resonant D-18. After hearing both of these played by John, I'd be leaning more towards the Standard. Very nice video gentlemen!
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So odd tho because of what I've heard before this, Sinker is definitely warmer sounding imo. Idk. Could honestly just be the guitar. The top, etc. Who knows.
It's close but I give it to the sinker mahogany. Those sinker guitars all seem to have more power and responsiveness, and this one also had a very nice fuzzy character on the note. The only knock on the sinker guitar is I thought it sounded bright and shrill once or twice, could just be a consequence of how responsive it is so it may be more sensitive to touch dynamics. The standard had a warmer tone and was comparatively sedate in its response.
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Weird. I usually find sinker warmer
Send me either one! But then it's a Thompson. I think the Sinker would be better for some songs I sing. BUT maybe Madagascar or Guatemalan Rosewood with Adirondack, 12-fret!
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Toss up for me.. could hear the difference but agree it's subtle. I have an ever so slight preference for the raw hog which isn't surprising since I prefer hog to rosewood. But I'd take either and I'm thankful that we have this source of mahogany and that it's not just rotting at the bottom of a river. For looks, some of the sinker is amazing looking too.
Just FYI, i know it's not your point... but no wood that stays submerged rots. Rot happens when it's wet, dry, wet dry, can't rot if it is always wet.
B has a certain embellishment to each note to my ear, that mimics what I think mine sounds like that has sinker mahogany...it's a martin though...
oh I see now A has the volume, live and learn!
These sound great but I prefer my Martin too.
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Standard, sample B has my vote. 👍
I would like you to review Dowina Master series.
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@@AcousticShoppe Why? , I thought your were buying and reviewing? You asked the audience to tell us which guitar to review. And when I gave my option you are asking me to tell them to send you. I purchased from hard earned money and found they were great, so I have expressed my view.
@@RsqSqr We're not a dealer of Dowina Guitars but we can certainly look into it.
I like the sound of the standard better but the look of the sinker better.
Weird because on other sinkers I heard more warmth than regular mahogany. Idk I think too many other factors are at play. Including relief or the action as I heard buzzing on the sinker. Either way I love sinker for finger picking. The notes do jump out. And it sounds beautifully warm when finger picking. But I'm talking ones I've heard and Martins
great video, but I can't detect any difference between them. Maybe I'm a rosewood guy... it would be easier to compare if the two guitars played the same notes each time, rather than switching in random places in the tune.
it very very good i love it too
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I’m convinced a high quality straight-grained standard mahogany will sound better than 80% of sinkers. The problem with sinker is you can just toss that name on it and people will spend. I also think it’s tougher to tell good sinker from bad sinker.
I don't know which is which yet.. but B is more punchy and crisp, A is slightly lighter and less responsive. My ear wouldn't care about $600 difference, I'd save up and buy the one that sounds best, but to me that's B. SPOILER!!!!
SPOILER, SPOILER, SPOILER:;;;;
WOW, my brain thought the sinker must sound like it had more attack etc...I guess being water-logged for so long, the cells take longer to open up. I'd buy the standard...B. it just would perk up more ears...specifically mine.
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They are much closer than I really expected. I think I like the sinker a bit better, but for 600 dollars difference I don't think it would be worth it.
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When i buy sinker i get a nerdy little story to tell my nerdy guitar friends.
The very subtle difference is likely from two different pieces of wood.
The subtle of subtlest difference is probably just that no two guitars sound exactly the same, not sinker versus standard mahogany. FWIW.
Don't know which is which yet, but I very slightly preferred A. So, so, close, though!
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Sinker for looks and tone.
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unless the guitar maker is purchasing super contraband illegalish wood...there is such a small amount of wood quantity/cost in a guitar price that it's almost silly for the makers to make a big deal about the cost of wood going up. eg. domestic hardwoods like cherry/walnut have gone from $3 to $6 per board foot. Consider a guitar has about 5 board foot total wood (if that) So, even if mahogany went from $12 to $25 b/f you're still looking at a negligible amount vs total guitar cost.
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@@AcousticShoppe done...thanks for posting these. Awesome vids!
Thanks for the comparison. I frankly couldn't hear a difference.
Guitar A sounds a slight bit warmer
To my ear, i didnt hear that much difference, either 1 would be just fine imo. 👍👍
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Preffered B
Give me a two-piece Brazilian rosewood any day.
Seriously. For me, no differences.
Guitar A / Sinker has a G string buzzing.
Maybe a tiny difference between the two, certainly not enough to warrant all the hype over sinker mahogany and certainly not nearly enough to come close to justifying the premium paid for sinker that most guitar makers charge. I'm certain that you could get two guitars, both with the same mahogany, and there would be slight differences similar to what was heard between these two guitars because every piece of wood is slightly different. But hey, if it makes somebody feel better about their guitar because they have sinker mahogany, it's their money.
They sound the same
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I like B the best
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Not much difference online not looking. Both great
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Guitar A
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I don't hear any difference between the two and I've collected guitars for 50 years.
This is splitting split hairs.