Except for the first guy, are the rest pulling their work weights? When I do deadlifts it takes all of 3 minutes (365lbs). I need a few seconds between each rep to catch my breath.
Not really. We had been lifting and in class all day (+12 hours)first learning and teaching the squat, then bench, and finally deadlift. By the time rip was coming around we had all done several sets of 5. I decided to back off from 365 to 315 just to make sure my form was correct and not breaking down from fatigue when he came around. I think a lot of others did the same as we were all tired, and a lot went too hard on squats. We also knew we would be learning the power clean in less than 12 hours.
@@algorerhyth more like when a tard plays tic tac toe and everyone acts like it's super impressive. I guarantee you several people left that seminar wishing they never went, total waste of money and time.
Hips as low as you can as heavy as you can is best to build Mark's preferred type deadlift for longer limbed lifters. I am built to deadlift so Mark's style is how I truly max deadlift but I can't train regularly that way and improve, I have to drop my hips and squat it up and tad more to strengthen my legs in the pulling position. In a sense I see it almost as a deficit kind of deadlift that improves my absolute truly Mark Rippetoe approved deadlift. That's why I wish Mark was more flexible in his coaching nature, because you can improve your preferred style of a lift through other types and styles of the same lift. I also stiff leg deadlift, spine parallel to the ground as slow as humanly possible, and thus usually 50-70% of my max for reps. Focusing on being the most slow and controlled hinge I can be. These two help strengthen my ability to "pull" into a position where I can dial in the perfect amount of hamstring recruitment and instead of squatting up my maxes to ensure a safe spine, I now go from completely flat to very minimal pull on the hips downward as I engage the hamstring, glutes, and feet and pry my abdomen away from quads. This way yon can still get power. A lot of these lifters were starting too parallel to the floor imo. They could've just used a moment to pull a little lower and then rise into a more comfortable position.
Man watching some of those guys lift makes me wonder how they havent thrown their back out. The back being horizontal like that is a disaster waiting to happen. Makes me wonder how Rip can be ok with that terrible form. they might as well be doing stiff legged dead lifts at this point.
It’s the correct form. Watch the best in the world they hinge, it’s a low back lift. I am 46 I deadlift 540 no belt I coach football on the field we don’t get belts. Point is Rip is a legend and his results are proven.
@flashinthepanpaydirt7387 I have nothing against Rip at all. I think he's great. I just saw one person in particular there that the form seemed dangerous to me. I used to deadlift similar to that in my early 20s and really messed my back up at my trainers one day because I had my back too horizontal on a heavy lift, may have leaned a little too far forward as well. Now, when I see that horizontal back, I cringe a bit in fear lol.
Why does he always insist on high hips? Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I'm pulling at advanced level for my bodyweight and my torso is never even close to parallel with the floor, and most high lb deadlifters I've seen pull with their hips significantly lower too. If I were to try to go with higher hips, I'd wind up even having to lean over further in front of the bar (with arms way off vertical) or round my back. I think they cue should be "straight back" regardless of hip position. Forcing someone to unnaturally take a high-hip stance can be dangerous.
Because if he says it with confidence people think he knows something they're just not smart enough to figure out and that their listening to him is justified, and that their form isn't just different because their body is different. There's really not that much form to powerlifting. That's one of the beauties of it and why it can be practiced by mentally disabled people.
Keeping your hips higher means you're putting more work into the posterior chain, which is the target for deadlifts. The lower your hips are the more you're putting on the quads. But yeah, everyone has different sizes and proportions and flexibility ranges, and he certainly wouldn't be happy with my form either.
Hip height is determined by the anthropometry of the lifter. The SS model is that the bar should start over mid foot, and if you draw a vertical line from the bar up through the torso of the lifter, it would intersect with the scapula. The lats thus pull on the humerus at a 90 degree angle. The back should be in extension. This is the correct position to pull a deadlift. Some people will have higher hips than others following the setup, doesn't matter.
@@marmaladecreammediamy hips are level, if not slightly higher than my head when i start the pull. Is this a problem. I believe i have long legs, perhaps specifially long femurs. A few observers have thought this as well.
@@kqh123assuming that you are truly setting up correctly, then yes if your back is horizontal that means you have to overcome a lot of moment force on the back in order to break the bar off the floor. I've trained some lifters where this is the case. DL's will just be harder for you than for others. You have a few things you can try:1.) pull in flats, 2.) use a frog stance, with heels touching or close to it, and toes out 45 degrees, 3.) intentionally setup with the bar slightly forward of mid foot so you can drop your hips a bit more, then consciously return the bar back over mid foot by the time you are midshin. I recommend #1 and #2 first, #3 is a last resort bc its hard to pull off. The idea here is to get your back at least a few degrees more vertical, to reduce some of the moment you have to overcome off the floor.
I think of Mark often, though I've never met him. The people at LA Fitness think I'm some sort of freak, not knowing how straightforward it actually is. I actually nearly got banned for reprimanding everyone's' bad form.
@@yoeyyoey8937 Being famous is completely different than being a legend. Perhaps you should look up the definition before you make Ill educated comments
3:42 Rip sucks as a coach. Here, he tells the person to stop and set the back properly, the person clearly attempts to do so and awaits his approval since last time he said to stop. The trainee doesn't want to start again without Rip saying their back is set. But clueless Rip zoned out and just stared at them. Then the next lifter doesn't set their back at all and Rip doesn't say a word. Time to retire from coaching Rip.
@@yoeyyoey8937 I have more likes. But regardless my criticisms are objectively true. Rip sucks. He barely knows where he is anymore and can't coach, he should give those people their money back.
@@JoeGoldJr the guy didn’t set his back which is why rip didn’t say anything and after said the other reps were better. The guy after him was setting up properly, you can tell cause he was pulling the slack out the bar before the lift while the other guy was lifting right off the floor. He was coaching 10 people in 20 minutes or so so ofc this isn’t a good example of personalized coaching, he was just rapid fire addressing basic issues with their deadlift
@@yoeyyoey8937 wrong, the person clearly set their back, you can see it in their shirt and he is waiting for Rip to acknowledge it or say it's not set enough. It's obvious to anyone with a brain. And the next guy didn't loc his lats back at all. Keep up the cultist cope! Rip is not going to F you btw.
He’s got the Coach’s Eye
Rip is a freaking legend
SS is the way!! To all the younger kids, watch and don’t waste valuable time! 💪🏻 🇺🇸
I wish there was more Barbell Coaches when I was growing up.
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That's me! 😀
Thanks for sharing Grant!
You bet!
Pretty impressed with the minor flaws he picked up on and corrected. Awesome coach!!
He has to say something, right?
@@clintkennedy8387 not the point
i noticed the good Dr. Sullivan in the crowd....
Grant, any extra significance to this seminar? Asking because I noticed Sully there as well. Thanks.
These are priceless.
glad you enjoyed!
Except for the first guy, are the rest pulling their work weights? When I do deadlifts it takes all of 3 minutes (365lbs). I need a few seconds between each rep to catch my breath.
Not really. We had been lifting and in class all day (+12 hours)first learning and teaching the squat, then bench, and finally deadlift. By the time rip was coming around we had all done several sets of 5. I decided to back off from 365 to 315 just to make sure my form was correct and not breaking down from fatigue when he came around. I think a lot of others did the same as we were all tired, and a lot went too hard on squats. We also knew we would be learning the power clean in less than 12 hours.
My usual work weight is 405 ish btw
@@IanfKirby Phew thanks. That makes sense.
Dang he coached a whole gym in 20 minutes that’s intense
no he stared at people and made up something to say and walked away, if that.
this is like when Magnus Carlsen plays 10 people at once in chess.
@@JoeGoldJr it’s like you don’t even know what’s happening in the video
@@algorerhyth more like when a tard plays tic tac toe and everyone acts like it's super impressive. I guarantee you several people left that seminar wishing they never went, total waste of money and time.
Nah man it looked like it was in a gym
I don't understand how he's always stressing that you should not look up on the squat, but when you do it on the DL it's okay!?
Hips up higher for all
Hips as low as you can as heavy as you can is best to build Mark's preferred type deadlift for longer limbed lifters. I am built to deadlift so Mark's style is how I truly max deadlift but I can't train regularly that way and improve, I have to drop my hips and squat it up and tad more to strengthen my legs in the pulling position. In a sense I see it almost as a deficit kind of deadlift that improves my absolute truly Mark Rippetoe approved deadlift. That's why I wish Mark was more flexible in his coaching nature, because you can improve your preferred style of a lift through other types and styles of the same lift. I also stiff leg deadlift, spine parallel to the ground as slow as humanly possible, and thus usually 50-70% of my max for reps. Focusing on being the most slow and controlled hinge I can be. These two help strengthen my ability to "pull" into a position where I can dial in the perfect amount of hamstring recruitment and instead of squatting up my maxes to ensure a safe spine, I now go from completely flat to very minimal pull on the hips downward as I engage the hamstring, glutes, and feet and pry my abdomen away from quads. This way yon can still get power. A lot of these lifters were starting too parallel to the floor imo. They could've just used a moment to pull a little lower and then rise into a more comfortable position.
Connor inspired me.
he inspires us all
Bro repped 600 holy cow
Man watching some of those guys lift makes me wonder how they havent thrown their back out. The back being horizontal like that is a disaster waiting to happen. Makes me wonder how Rip can be ok with that terrible form. they might as well be doing stiff legged dead lifts at this point.
It’s the correct form. Watch the best in the world they hinge, it’s a low back lift. I am 46 I deadlift 540 no belt I coach football on the field we don’t get belts. Point is Rip is a legend and his results are proven.
Horrible form so your a power lifter coach more knowing that Riptoe
@flashinthepanpaydirt7387 I have nothing against Rip at all. I think he's great. I just saw one person in particular there that the form seemed dangerous to me. I used to deadlift similar to that in my early 20s and really messed my back up at my trainers one day because I had my back too horizontal on a heavy lift, may have leaned a little too far forward as well. Now, when I see that horizontal back, I cringe a bit in fear lol.
Sueeeepiiiineeee sideeee
Don't row as you cross the knee??? No...that's him engaging his lats because the weight is still easy...
Mark Rippotoe need a six pack
Bud light or coors light?
Why does he always insist on high hips? Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I'm pulling at advanced level for my bodyweight and my torso is never even close to parallel with the floor, and most high lb deadlifters I've seen pull with their hips significantly lower too. If I were to try to go with higher hips, I'd wind up even having to lean over further in front of the bar (with arms way off vertical) or round my back. I think they cue should be "straight back" regardless of hip position. Forcing someone to unnaturally take a high-hip stance can be dangerous.
Because if he says it with confidence people think he knows something they're just not smart enough to figure out and that their listening to him is justified, and that their form isn't just different because their body is different. There's really not that much form to powerlifting. That's one of the beauties of it and why it can be practiced by mentally disabled people.
Keeping your hips higher means you're putting more work into the posterior chain, which is the target for deadlifts.
The lower your hips are the more you're putting on the quads.
But yeah, everyone has different sizes and proportions and flexibility ranges, and he certainly wouldn't be happy with my form either.
Hip height is determined by the anthropometry of the lifter. The SS model is that the bar should start over mid foot, and if you draw a vertical line from the bar up through the torso of the lifter, it would intersect with the scapula. The lats thus pull on the humerus at a 90 degree angle. The back should be in extension. This is the correct position to pull a deadlift. Some people will have higher hips than others following the setup, doesn't matter.
@@marmaladecreammediamy hips are level, if not slightly higher than my head when i start the pull. Is this a problem. I believe i have long legs, perhaps specifially long femurs. A few observers have thought this as well.
@@kqh123assuming that you are truly setting up correctly, then yes if your back is horizontal that means you have to overcome a lot of moment force on the back in order to break the bar off the floor. I've trained some lifters where this is the case. DL's will just be harder for you than for others. You have a few things you can try:1.) pull in flats, 2.) use a frog stance, with heels touching or close to it, and toes out 45 degrees, 3.) intentionally setup with the bar slightly forward of mid foot so you can drop your hips a bit more, then consciously return the bar back over mid foot by the time you are midshin. I recommend #1 and #2 first, #3 is a last resort bc its hard to pull off. The idea here is to get your back at least a few degrees more vertical, to reduce some of the moment you have to overcome off the floor.
I think of Mark often, though I've never met him. The people at LA Fitness think I'm some sort of freak, not knowing how straightforward it actually is. I actually nearly got banned for reprimanding everyone's' bad form.
rippefart
I wonder at what point as these ppl get stronger in their lifting journeys, do they realize he’s constantly putting them in weaker positions lol
Why tf would you wanna listen to him? 😂
Most unqualified ever
Starting crap
Is your Wife's boyfriend a Starting Strength coach or something?
What is your deadlift?
LOL. Pretending that the deadlift is other than just lift it off the ground in whatever way suits you.
Oh just lift it best you can , if your technique is flawed according to the expert so what
Not a legend
Clearly he is and either way more of a legend than you’ll ever be
@@yoeyyoey8937 Doesn't mean Rip's right or even honest. Just means he's famous.
@@michaellopez2070 that’s what being a legend means, yet I reckon he’s more right and honest than his detractors would like to believe
@@yoeyyoey8937
Being famous is completely different than being a legend. Perhaps you should look up the definition before you make Ill educated comments
@@22448824 idk what dictionary you’re looking at but rip isn’t even “famous” so if anything “legend” is more accurate
3:42 Rip sucks as a coach. Here, he tells the person to stop and set the back properly, the person clearly attempts to do so and awaits his approval since last time he said to stop. The trainee doesn't want to start again without Rip saying their back is set. But clueless Rip zoned out and just stared at them. Then the next lifter doesn't set their back at all and Rip doesn't say a word. Time to retire from coaching Rip.
Cope harder
@@yoeyyoey8937 I have more likes. But regardless my criticisms are objectively true. Rip sucks. He barely knows where he is anymore and can't coach, he should give those people their money back.
Ignore this clueless troll
@@JoeGoldJr the guy didn’t set his back which is why rip didn’t say anything and after said the other reps were better. The guy after him was setting up properly, you can tell cause he was pulling the slack out the bar before the lift while the other guy was lifting right off the floor. He was coaching 10 people in 20 minutes or so so ofc this isn’t a good example of personalized coaching, he was just rapid fire addressing basic issues with their deadlift
@@yoeyyoey8937 wrong, the person clearly set their back, you can see it in their shirt and he is waiting for Rip to acknowledge it or say it's not set enough. It's obvious to anyone with a brain. And the next guy didn't loc his lats back at all. Keep up the cultist cope! Rip is not going to F you btw.