Heyy, I was lucky enough to drop in the evening Seth was with you guys! It's really cool to see the videos that came out of that. It was great training with yous all :)
@@minhquando100 In sumo though, if when you're twisting to throw them even the side of your foot touches the ground before your opponent you lose. I have to assume he means because it's considered a low percentage position given those unique rules, not that it can't be done or there aren't any that sumos know.
I think the word Seth was thinking of "yorikiri" (frontal force-out, which has a belt grip), but he seemed to be describing either oshidashi (frontal push-out) or tsukidashi (frontal thrust-out), which often do end with the loser flying out and the winner staying in the dohyo
A big sumo tournament in Japan just ended, and you can see these concepts and techniques in action. There are highlights of every day on youtube right now.
Shintaro: you know about the wiping of the butt? Later Shintaro: so that rule about the wiping of the butt, yeah I’ve implemented that in my dojo. You see my belt red and white? Now look at your belt. Grab that roll and follow me, Seth.
I notice that watching Sensei Seth's amateur stuff the tachiai has a lot less head to head contact, which is the thing that would keep me away from sumo. I'm not going to do a sport where head clashes are expected, same reason I can't do rugby
That's what I've always heard, although I don't speak japanese. The gyoji will keep shouting "nokotta" while the rikishi are moving to let them know neither has stepped out yet, but if things come to a standstill, the gyoji will shout "hakkeyoi" to encourage them to make a move
Prayer hands lets you bust grips and push someone off you by force. You are using the force of two arms against one, or against their neck/chest to peel them off and extend their arm to the point of weakness while yours are still relatively close in, and reinforced with eachother. This kind of defeats the purpose of the game.
At some point grappling is grappling. You can call it sumo, sambo, judo, greco-roman, or whatever you want but there are only so many ways to move a human body and similar disciplines will have developed similar moves over the years. And of course there's some direct cross-pollination from cross training and competitions.
Heyy, I was lucky enough to drop in the evening Seth was with you guys! It's really cool to see the videos that came out of that. It was great training with yous all :)
"Chest to chest there is not a lot of throws"
"REALLY?!?!??!?!" Sensei Shintaro thinking about a thousand throws.
I have no idea what Seth meant by this. Chest to chest in the clinch is literally exactly where you want to be if you’re a judoka.
@@minhquando100 In sumo though, if when you're twisting to throw them even the side of your foot touches the ground before your opponent you lose. I have to assume he means because it's considered a low percentage position given those unique rules, not that it can't be done or there aren't any that sumos know.
@@FailedBard In high level/Japanese Sumo you see throws from chest to chest constantly lol.
@@keropnw3425 well he is not a high level japanese sumo wrestler is he
This is really quite excellent. Very thoughtful questions and perspectives.
I think the word Seth was thinking of "yorikiri" (frontal force-out, which has a belt grip), but he seemed to be describing either oshidashi (frontal push-out) or tsukidashi (frontal thrust-out), which often do end with the loser flying out and the winner staying in the dohyo
Perfect timing perfect moment, I've been interested in sumo since this summer and I wanted to see the crossover possible.
Love this1 amazing quality content as always! OSSS
love this duo,
thx Shintaro !
Great collaboration
Great combo
Awesome stuff. So cool. Also amazing to see how much sumo practical knowledge Seth has picked up in two years!
Best collab!
A big sumo tournament in Japan just ended, and you can see these concepts and techniques in action. There are highlights of every day on youtube right now.
Fascinating.
The first one is called Kiaten Nage in Aikido.
Love Seth and Shintaro videos 👏
Where the head goes, so does the body.
Sanctuary is a really good show!
Shintaro: you know about the wiping of the butt?
Later Shintaro: so that rule about the wiping of the butt, yeah I’ve implemented that in my dojo.
You see my belt red and white? Now look at your belt. Grab that roll and follow me, Seth.
Took learning sumo to find the karate. We do these techniques in my dojo, all found in okinawan kata.
Oss 🙏
Part 2!
Totally was juncos and rollerblades in school
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I notice that watching Sensei Seth's amateur stuff the tachiai has a lot less head to head contact, which is the thing that would keep me away from sumo. I'm not going to do a sport where head clashes are expected, same reason I can't do rugby
What do you think aboute a dobel lapel morote seoinage in drop Style? Bothe hands high...
sounds like you're trying to spike uke on their head.
In theory sumo can pair well with wall wrestling for MMA.
sumo wa tsuoi desu
「残った」って言うのはまだ勝負が付いてないって言う意味だからthe match’s not over yet とかthe match’s not settled yet じゃない？
That's what I've always heard, although I don't speak japanese. The gyoji will keep shouting "nokotta" while the rikishi are moving to let them know neither has stepped out yet, but if things come to a standstill, the gyoji will shout "hakkeyoi" to encourage them to make a move
Prayer hands lets you bust grips and push someone off you by force.
You are using the force of two arms against one, or against their neck/chest to peel them off and extend their arm to the point of weakness while yours are still relatively close in, and reinforced with eachother.
This kind of defeats the purpose of the game.
Isn't that really just greco-roman technique?
I think it's more accurate to say these are features common to both sumo and Greco-Roman. "Really just" is kinda reductive imo.
Yuppers, any non jacket wrestling is going to converge on the same tie ups. I think it's pretty neat that it's a cross cultural, universal thing
Sumo is older
@jacobharris954 that too. Greco's roots don't run as deep as its name implies.
At some point grappling is grappling. You can call it sumo, sambo, judo, greco-roman, or whatever you want but there are only so many ways to move a human body and similar disciplines will have developed similar moves over the years. And of course there's some direct cross-pollination from cross training and competitions.