I love Otacon's deliverance of "a weak, simple-minded, stubborn fool". He GENUINELY isn't trying to insult Raiden; he just says it all flat-out like they are normal traits; which is also what Snake probably meant.
@@Ruben1994OL I met him at a con in Ireland. Nicest guy, signed my copy of mgs 1 for free and gave me a few moments to chat even though he was scheduled to leave and was in a hurry.
id agree if snake and Raiden were high school students, but both are military trained combatants with years and in snakes case decades of experience in the harsh reality of war......to people who have seen the worst of humanity, something like that should be taken as a complement and the fact Raiden doesn't get that yet Otacon does illustrates how right Snake really is about him
I adore the way Quinton Flynn delievered '...Next to you?...' I can't tell if it's in disbelief or fear. XD Was the point of that conversation just to punk Raiden?
Wrestling2006 Xbox how is fighting your brother on top of a ship more impressive than fighting 25 metal gears lmao? And don’t forget he fought his dad who wore a super high tech mecha suit on top of a building
id agree if snake and Raiden were high school students, but both are military trained combatants with years and in snakes case decades of experience in the harsh reality of war......to people who have seen the worst of humanity, something like that should be taken as a complement and the fact Raiden doesn't get that yet Otacon does illustrates how right Snake really is about him
I always felt for Raiden in this game. Snake was a grouch, Otacon was a sycophant and his commanding officer wasn't even real. Considering all of that Raiden was going through he did pretty well.
lol. He is soooo dead. But that conversation is funny as hell. Snake's looks like he's REALLY wondering how he will kick Raiden's ass the next time he will see him XD
I always laugh at what an asshole Snake is to Raiden but by the end of the game I'm more than ready to kill him off and game over from it a few times when I get the chance after he gives Raiden the sword. Raiden's anger was actually pretty justified in this part, IMO. Also Otacon's so candid here, there's no malice in his voice or anything, he genuinely believes Snake didn't mean anything by what he said. Lol, buddy you've been hanging out with Snake too long if you think that was anything but an insult.
You do realize that Snake does care for Raiden right for 2 reasons 1. he is his adopted uncle and 2. he sees raiden sorta like a Younger self of him since Snake was like this when he was young unexperienced very naive granted snake is a Intelligent mofo and plus Reason why Otocan didn't say shit was because we'll He's know snake for like 2 or 4 years pretty sure after a while he would know when snake means a Insult and when he means to fuck around
Spider-Man I don't think he cares about 1 at all, 2 I agree, he does see his younger self mirrored in Raiden. I think Snake was serious when he said those things about Raiden, but he meant it in a "he might have potential" kind of way, and Otacon mentioned it to Raiden knowing that Raiden would get mad to redirect Raiden from being mad at him. Snake was an asshole to both Meryl and Otacon in MGS1, and he loved Meryl and grew to be bffs with Otacon, so maybe he did care about Raiden. Otacon seems to be a pretty nice guy though, so I can see him putting up with Snake's shit, I can't really see Raiden getting along with Snake until Snake stops treating him like he does, Raiden's too touchy, even if he does idolize Snake. Snake's pretty obnoxious towards Raiden in this game. Maybe I need to replay the games again, but Snake doesn't seem the type to say that sort of thing jokingly.
PinkCharmander he's kinda one of those dude who hides his feelings perfect example mgs1 where you can slowly see his love for Merly hell in the Phsyco mantis Fight When Merly Dies he screams out her name and you can somewhat hear his crying not to mention when raiden dies he yells out "RAIDEN!!"
Spider-Man Yeah, he also falls to his knees when Meryl dies. He's stoic but he's never had a problem complaining when something annoyed him or otherwise showing dislike, or giving out praise when he thought it was due. What reason could he have for hiding how he felt about Raiden, especially privately to Otacon? He seems to genuinely dislike Raiden at this point in the game, and to be only using him to save Emma because he has no other choice, and to resent having to rely on him. Just because he doesn't want Raiden to die doesn't mean he cares about him as a person or considers him a friend.
PinkCharmander Then why is it he took on Ms fortune and let raiden on by himself not to mention at the end he gives raiden advice for his future I'm not trying to be Mr snake is perfect cause I can call out on snakes crap
Snake: … Translation: Raiden you have twenty seconds to get off the codec and hide behind a massive pile of bodies because the big shell and arsenal won’t be the only things I blow up today
Raiden be like there's enough weird shit going on I don't wanna deal with an angry Snake. I love how he's done with everything and everyone in this game though. He's an adorable dork ❤
Oh yes, yes they are. You ever see those memes like how you treat your normal friend vs how you treat your bestfriend? The normal one you treat them very nicely, while the bestfriend one you just full on insulting your friend and laughing cuz your friend knows you don't mean it. That's what Snake, Raiden and Otacon have~
"What could possibly be worse than that?" from Raiden. What could be worse is Snake hearing what Raiden said to him and could be even worse if Snake was there with Raiden or near him. Raiden shouldn't talk to Snake for a while and stay away from him for a while.
Considering what snake said, my response would have been... Raiden: Did he hear? Otacon: Every word Raiden: ....Well, at least i don't have to repeat myself. But I'm just that petty😏
I love Otacon's deliverance of "a weak, simple-minded, stubborn fool". He GENUINELY isn't trying to insult Raiden; he just says it all flat-out like they are normal traits; which is also what Snake probably meant.
“A weak, simple-minded, stubborn fool.”
*in MGS4*
“You still have your youth. Don’t waste it”
Same thing, pretty much.
he better keep an eye out for any cardboard boxes here on out.
Snake loved that carboard box dearly. Why did you do it Raiden?
Treat your cardboard box with care, treat it with love, dont be rough
I like how his voice is a mix of fear, confusion, and "oh shit goddammit it's gonna be so awkward talking to him from now on"
Someone really needs to put up a video of David Hayter (with Snakes voice) saying:
"Raiden is such a weak, simple-minded, stubborn fool..." xD
...but it's true!
just catch him at a convention and record him saying it, the mans always been cool recording messages as solid snake
@@Gojiro7 Yeah, David's fantastic that way, but he doesn't show up to conventions outside of the US, as far as I know.
@@Ruben1994OL I met him at a con in Ireland. Nicest guy, signed my copy of mgs 1 for free and gave me a few moments to chat even though he was scheduled to leave and was in a hurry.
@@DanteDMCry Thats amazing, I didn't know he actually went to events abroad
Raiden: Did he hear...
Otacon: Every word
(Snake looks pissed) I hope you have your doors locked tonight ._.
Otacon needs his face smacked for that irritating conversation.
No, Snake would say: "You better hide those precious cardboard boxes in your house tonight."
Son of a B...ig Boss?
Nice One
Son of a what? A damn fiddle?
Bitch?
LIBERTY!
WHOOOOOOO!?!?!?!?!
TALK _BITCH_
Love how they won't let Raiden even say that word, despite this being an M-rated video game.
...awkward, but Raiden did have a point. You can even hear the irritation in his voice as he 'gets back to the mission.
It’s like as if Kojima knew we would not like raider and that it would be fun to troll the character.
id agree if snake and Raiden were high school students, but both are military trained combatants with years and in snakes case decades of experience in the harsh reality of war......to people who have seen the worst of humanity, something like that should be taken as a complement and the fact Raiden doesn't get that yet Otacon does illustrates how right Snake really is about him
@@Gojiro7 i like how you copied your own reply for this comment and the one above
I adore the way Quinton Flynn delievered '...Next to you?...' I can't tell if it's in disbelief or fear. XD
Was the point of that conversation just to punk Raiden?
Summoboomo yes
Damn, this comment is from the good old days.
Come back 13 years ago, come back......
@@andycraig6905 So is this video.
Old ahh comment
This conversation is why Raiden has a Cyborg Jaw in Metal Gear Rising.
I betcha snake was like, "yeah, that's what I thought"
Oh he did not just call Snake useless.
He got more shit done than Jack ever did before he became a cyborg, that's for damn sure.
@@WTFisTingispingis When did Snake ever have to fight 25 metal gears at once?
05r When did Raiden fight his own brother on top of a ship?
Wrestling2006 Xbox how is fighting your brother on top of a ship more impressive than fighting 25 metal gears lmao? And don’t forget he fought his dad who wore a super high tech mecha suit on top of a building
Imagine waking up in the middle of the night and seeing Snake's rage face at your window
You'd never see him and you'd never wake up 😅
I agree with Raiden, I dont see how saying weak simpleminded and stubborn cant be an insult
8 years late for a reply but I think while Snake did mean it as an insult, he wasn't serious about it. The same way he was with Meryl in Shadow Moses.
id agree if snake and Raiden were high school students, but both are military trained combatants with years and in snakes case decades of experience in the harsh reality of war......to people who have seen the worst of humanity, something like that should be taken as a complement and the fact Raiden doesn't get that yet Otacon does illustrates how right Snake really is about him
Raiden: im just gonna get back to the mission now.
Snake: DAMN RIGHT YOU ARE
Snake: >~>
Raiden: O_O
Lmao XD
RinoaAngelwings696 Cringe
Unlikable I'm not sure why you're talking about yourself in places that don't belong, but okay.
@@BridgeEntertainment2001 Liked your own comment
@@BridgeEntertainment2001 Unnatural Swine
@@BridgeEntertainment2001 Dumbass "Cringe" And your name Fits you Very well
I always felt for Raiden in this game. Snake was a grouch, Otacon was a sycophant and his commanding officer wasn't even real.
Considering all of that Raiden was going through he did pretty well.
He ended becoming a half robot emo samurai, I know if I consider that turning out good
@@jackpenber8959 Ninja, not samurai.
@@TheMrCHELL ehhh that's arguable, the game barely has any sneaking. If that's the case Snake is much more of a ninja than Raiden will ever be.
Jack became an alcoholic after the big shell incident
@@jackpenber8959 Ryu Hayabusa was a ninja and there is ZERO SNEAKING in Ninja Gaiden Black, a hack and slash.
Love how Raiden asks how it could get any worse and then proceeds to hit back with WAY more venom in his words.
Lolol, poor Raiden! At the same time, aww, Otacon is such a good bro. You can tell he genuinely thinks well of Snake and respects him.
@Scott Alleman What? How does Snake "lie and gaslight"? And yeah he kinda pokes fun of Raiden but he also helps him?
good ol' Raiden you gotta love him
I know right...
Yeah
my favorite line is "we managed to avoid drowning!" He sounds surprised lawl.
raiden: im going to get back to the misson now
snake: sleep with a gun undder your pillow and lock your doars and windows cuz im coming
1:49
damn! that's the penance stare.
I love how Snake doesn't say anything. He just gives him a cold stare.
1:49 guess what Snake is thinking right now. Hint: it's not pretty. O_O
O_0
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1:49
Snake: ಠ_ಠ
You just know Raiden was biting his tongue clean off to not go on about his military history as a child soldier in Liberia.
That convo never stops being funny. I especially love the grumpy look on Snake's face. ROFLMAO! XD
That's always been my favorite codec conversation.
Snake's epic death stare. Twice the power of a single Falcon Punch, in less than half the time.
When Raiden says 'yeah, so what' , it sounded all slurred and stuff, like he wanted to start a bar fight.
Damn legend. 2006
lol.
He is soooo dead.
But that conversation is funny as hell. Snake's looks like he's REALLY wondering how he will kick Raiden's ass the next time he will see him XD
And now we know why he was naked during half of Arsenal Gear.
@@DragonGodXIII just wow
Best conversation, hands down.
Oh god, I really needed that. That was so freaking hilarious.
This is one of my favourite games ever. I've played through it dozens and dozens of times. How come I've never heard this conversation before? :o
Snake's got a super-shit-bricks-stare mode on.
He's right here...
MGS1 game over music plays
Raiden is so dead. 0_0
I guess this was response to Raiden's criticism to one too many players.
Snake probably can eat a FAMAS so he can probably get past every defense to get to Raiden and kill him.
That stare pierces across time and space and murders your very soul
Damn, this is back in 2006 holy shit.
Algorithm has blessed me to be here. Dang, a 2006 video.
Otacon sounds like a 2022 Twitter account.
But codec calls happen inside people's heads, so how could Snake have possible heard Otacon's conversation?
I think they used stationary radio instead of nanos in order for both of them to hear Raiden
They are hiding somewhere in big shell, thought the story made that clear. How did otacon arrive and somehow had equipment in the first place then?
@@Skerp129, with attack Team Alpha, Stillman mentions him arriving with them during cutscene.
Nanomachines, Son
Only the player characters have the implants (Snake & Raiden) Notice that the rest of the team joins in on conversations during every game.
I can see why raiden appears as a cyborg in mgs4
Damn, media really do be like that today.
I always laugh at what an asshole Snake is to Raiden but by the end of the game I'm more than ready to kill him off and game over from it a few times when I get the chance after he gives Raiden the sword. Raiden's anger was actually pretty justified in this part, IMO. Also Otacon's so candid here, there's no malice in his voice or anything, he genuinely believes Snake didn't mean anything by what he said. Lol, buddy you've been hanging out with Snake too long if you think that was anything but an insult.
You do realize that Snake does care for Raiden right for 2 reasons 1. he is his adopted uncle and 2. he sees raiden sorta like a Younger self of him since Snake was like this when he was young unexperienced very naive granted snake is a Intelligent mofo and plus Reason why Otocan didn't say shit was because we'll He's know snake for like 2 or 4 years pretty sure after a while he would know when snake means a Insult and when he means to fuck around
Spider-Man I don't think he cares about 1 at all, 2 I agree, he does see his younger self mirrored in Raiden. I think Snake was serious when he said those things about Raiden, but he meant it in a "he might have potential" kind of way, and Otacon mentioned it to Raiden knowing that Raiden would get mad to redirect Raiden from being mad at him. Snake was an asshole to both Meryl and Otacon in MGS1, and he loved Meryl and grew to be bffs with Otacon, so maybe he did care about Raiden. Otacon seems to be a pretty nice guy though, so I can see him putting up with Snake's shit, I can't really see Raiden getting along with Snake until Snake stops treating him like he does, Raiden's too touchy, even if he does idolize Snake. Snake's pretty obnoxious towards Raiden in this game. Maybe I need to replay the games again, but Snake doesn't seem the type to say that sort of thing jokingly.
PinkCharmander he's kinda one of those dude who hides his feelings perfect example mgs1 where you can slowly see his love for Merly hell in the Phsyco mantis Fight When Merly Dies he screams out her name and you can somewhat hear his crying not to mention when raiden dies he yells out "RAIDEN!!"
Spider-Man Yeah, he also falls to his knees when Meryl dies. He's stoic but he's never had a problem complaining when something annoyed him or otherwise showing dislike, or giving out praise when he thought it was due. What reason could he have for hiding how he felt about Raiden, especially privately to Otacon? He seems to genuinely dislike Raiden at this point in the game, and to be only using him to save Emma because he has no other choice, and to resent having to rely on him. Just because he doesn't want Raiden to die doesn't mean he cares about him as a person or considers him a friend.
PinkCharmander Then why is it he took on Ms fortune and let raiden on by himself not to mention at the end he gives raiden advice for his future I'm not trying to be Mr snake is perfect cause I can call out on snakes crap
At least he isn't too scared to use his own picture.
Snake's face = Priceless
Snake: …
Translation: Raiden you have twenty seconds to get off the codec and hide behind a massive pile of bodies because the big shell and arsenal won’t be the only things I blow up today
Raiden be like there's enough weird shit going on I don't wanna deal with an angry Snake. I love how he's done with everything and everyone in this game though. He's an adorable dork ❤
"Damn kid!"
Instant Game Over coming his way! 🤣
lol i love how raiden answers his own question.
1:49
At that moment Raiden soiled his little girly underwear.
Raiden being a stupid-ass and Snake being smart makes me feel all happy inside. lol
haha that was great!
Man, I read the comments where you can get this convo and it was the part where I started this morning! I missed it!
"I'm just going to get back to the mission now..." XD
1:25 Casually Activates Ripper mode
An interesting conversation. No doubt.
I like how snake looks at the end
Busted!!! XD
So true.
If you can Solid Snake, chances are you're close to death. If you can't see Solid Snake, don't even bother turning around.
And just like that. Snake’s point was proven.
this has got to be one of the first youtube videos
Yeah it's very old. What a time it was then. Seeing the year just floods back memories.
And that is why Raiden needs a nanosuit to live.
Snake: -_-
Raiden: *Dead*
"Otacon, i just said Raiden had ways to go"
This was one of the better codec conversations. Gave me a laugh when i heard it.
0:59 Lying by omission.
I luv that scene when raiden doesn't even know that hes there n starts calling him shit n all thats the funniest part to hear from him LMAO!!!!
... Someone's going to be on a hitlist. O_O
And on another note: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Jeez, that was awesome!
Snake: ಠ_ಠ
This made me feel really uncomfortable when i was a kid because I always thought snake, otacon and raiden were friends lol
ItzFrank well like otacon said, friends argue, acquantainces agree! and judging by this dialogue, raiden, snake and otacon are REALLY big friends.
Oh yes, yes they are. You ever see those memes like how you treat your normal friend vs how you treat your bestfriend? The normal one you treat them very nicely, while the bestfriend one you just full on insulting your friend and laughing cuz your friend knows you don't mean it. That's what Snake, Raiden and Otacon have~
Otacon: You know, ommit and lie are two toally different things!
Raiden: ¬.¬
"Ohgodsnakepleasedon'tripoffmyfaceandeatit"
...I can't help but hear that going through his head.
People around me asked why I was laughing at the screen quietly as if I'm having some kinda silent seizure. Again.
Hee. That's great. I must've missed that conversation. Ah well.
At least you can have Snake kick Raiden's ass towards the end of the game.
Humour is the last thing I see in Metal Gear.
almost two decades ago, would you believe it... damn
Posted in 2006, one year before the release of the iPhone 📱! No UA-cam app back then, now most people use YT through it instead of computers!
"What could possibly be worse than that?" from Raiden. What could be worse is Snake hearing what Raiden said to him and could be even worse if Snake was there with Raiden or near him. Raiden shouldn't talk to Snake for a while and stay away from him for a while.
it contains every possible element that a gamer
would expect...
humour is one of them.
I saw a clip, which shows Raikov running away from the Shagolhod.
BEST CONVERSATION EVER!
XDD
You can't mess with Otacon, cause Otacon is with Snake...and you can't mess with SNAKE!
dame snake was gonna kill just by giving him an evil stair go snake woot woot
I'd shit bricks if I was in that situation
HAHAHA.....!!!!!! DAMN THAT WAS HILARIOUS!
you don't want to get hit by those high heels that can probably cut through steel..
Snake's pulling an undertaker I see.
Ha Ha ha!
That's hilarious. I always laugh at this codec moment.
Considering what snake said, my response would have been...
Raiden: Did he hear?
Otacon: Every word
Raiden: ....Well, at least i don't have to repeat myself.
But I'm just that petty😏
I love these three.
Aaaaawkquaaaaard
I think I remember watching this converstation.
"I'm his friend,i know him better than someone else"
*"FRIEND"*
...
*ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?*
I TOTALLY MISSED THIS!!!! When does this happen in MGS2? HAHA