161 - Sanding Efficiency
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Sanding is one of those tasks that nobody enjoys. So in order to get the best results with the least amount of effort, we need to consider the things that have the most dramatic effect on our sanding efficiency.
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Just apart from the woodworking thing I would like to praise you for your excellent communication. The loudness, speed, tone, the logical use of the language; you are having these things totally right. It is a real pleasure to listen to you. Thanks a lot. Keep going.
Thank you Mark, you don't just tell us what to do, you let us know why we should do it.
Dear WoodWhiperer,
I love seeing a complete session just about sandpaper. That`s the definition of a pro to me.
thanks and plz keep it up !
your narration is great.I wasn't even looking for a lengthy sandpaper video but you draw people in by your easy style.
This dude is an amzing speaker.
literally the reason i always come back to these videos💯
i always learn a lot from you. Thats why I only come when the need arise to get info on something basic. Experience of elders sure make the difference. Thanks Marc. Schools need teachers like you :)
Your video on this topic is definitely one of the best I have come across. Very informative and very well presented. Thank you.
Derek
Hands down the best information about sanding I’ve ever come across! Wonderful job explaining the importance of every step of sanding.
Another great job Marc. The problems you expressed in the video with sanding is the reason why I try to avoid it. As much as possible I use plans and cabinet scrapers.
He is very educating which I really appreciate. In fact I listened 2xs and I will come back because it really is a chunk of info. Thank you Mr. Wood Whisperer
Well there probably isn't any way to fill the holes so you'll never notice them. But you can do a few things to minimize the effect. A good quality filler like Timbermate can work wonders. Also think about using some sawdust mixed with glue. For the scratches, I'd try to steam them out. Use a wet wash cloth and an iron to steam the damaged sections and hopefully they'll puff up. You can then sand the surface and procedd with the finish.
I really like it. Paper seems to last a real long time and cuts well throughout its life.
What an excellent overview of sanding efficiency. A must watch for anyone finishing/refinishing wood (and other materials)! I didn't realize there were so many sanding pad options and I hadn't considered how much dust extraction helps efficiency - I've always been frustrated by fine dust in my projects, but I guess it can hang suspended in the air for hours!
Very helpful Marc, thanks. I understand now why I have had many problems. Your a great teacher.
Mark, Love you and your Chanel! Keep up the good work! We all are learning from you!
Got so much out of this! Just finished a blanket chest and wasn't completely satisfied with my finish...now I know why! Many thanks!
Just wanted to say thanks, there were at least 4 or 5 new things i learned from your video. Keep it up mate!
3rd time watching this, finally took notes. I'm hoping by following some of this information I can be more efficient and have a better finish. Thanks Marc.
Thank mark i really enjoy learning from you. You are well spoken and I even enjoy your attempt at humor LOL.
Outstanding explanation as usual. You are a perfect ambassador for Festool, they should consider themselves lucky to have you on board.
Well this was a long time ago. They no longer have me on board but I still enjoy using some of their tools. :)
Good video, Marc. You're right...sanding is the one thing that you have to get right in order to get a decent finish. It's also one thing I struggle with regularly, especially in dealing with the dust. I have an air cleaner running all the time but everything still ends up with a layer of dust on it that I have to vacuum up so finishing isn't an easy task. Finishing on the lathe with friction polish helps. Dust can't settle easily on a moving object. Doesn't help with non-turned items, though.
Thank you very much. I'm starting a new project and this video is going to improve my sanding skills.
@tagi3d they actually sell rubber blocks that you can rub up against the paper while the sander is running. They can really help clean things up. But if its really caked on, there isn't much you can do about it.
That is a Festool ETS sander. One of the best on the market but a little expensive. I have had luck with sanders from DeWalt and Rigid in the past as well.
Quick clarification, ceramic is hard, it is not tough. Very different terms, very important differences in meaning.
Personally, I'm a fan of the ETS150. Rotex sanders are great, but for what I do, the ETS is all I need. As for sandpaper, I think you could stock up on 80, 120, 180, and 220 and you'd be good to go for wood sanding.
@FitzgeraldFiles Thanks! One of the videos in the Gadget Station series had a review of hinges. Can't recall the episode though. But there really is no "best" per se. So many varieties for so many different applications.
Very helpful. Thanks for this detailed information.
Great video! I hadn't thought about cross-contamination from sanded particles.
Thanks for sharing your educational videos. It would cost me a small fortune if we went to a technical school for this.
@Bojanawwr I don't really use a belt sander in my work. Its a very aggressive sander and can be tricky to control.
I find the best way to handle this is to use a sanding block instead of a power sander. The end grain of the peg will always present a problem for the soft pad of the sander. So if you use a block of wood with sandpaper on it, it will knock down the high spot and flush it to the surface. You can then resume using your power sander once level.
Thanks for the thorough explanation.
I don't use it much myself, but from what I hear it is very high quality.
They work quite well but I really only used them for the heavy machine sanders. Drum sander, spindler sander, disc sander, etc.
@ianjeisenberx Probably not. The random orbit sander is pretty much the only sander I use for everyday work. A belt sanding is far too aggressive for fine work and has a tendency to create scratches and divots.
Hey, nice job on your videos. You did not mention the sand paper eraser. I cant remember what it was called when I bought mine. Basically its a foot long x 2 x 2 chunck of eraser material like we used a long time ago! Especially good for belt and thickness sanders, but works on orbitals and sanding blocks. Hold it against the running paper or stroke it across the block and it removes and unclogs the paper. I am amazed at how much extra life I get out of my paper. I am sure you know all about this but you may want to mention it sometime! Keep on whispering!
Tim
@TheHandystanley there are great books from both Flexner and Jewitt on the topic. I also have a short book myself that is geared toward beginners.
Man I just ran into this issue. I am refinishing an old bed my dad bought me when I was a kid. I jumped right into 220 to sand down the old finish. One one end of the bed I went through 80, 150, and 220 and did not notice swirls I took my time. On the other end I rushed it and when I stained a portion I saw the dreaded swirls. So now I will go back and do it right. I have heard you can wipe down the work with mineral spirits prior to stain to remove sanding dust but when I did this I felt like the stain became diluted. Anyways keep up the good work thanks for the tips!
Hmm, that's a tough one given the shape. I bet drum shops probably have a custom solution for that. But the best you can probably do with current stuff on the market is possibly using a small headed sander like the Festool RO DX 90
@Mrcaffinebean Sure did. I hid it under the title "How to Build a Lumber Rack". :) Just look through the vids on our page and you should be able to find it quickly.
I grind mirrors for telescopes (Amateur ones mostly) and when grinding them, if you have even one particle of a bigger grit then the one you want, you end up with scratches that distort the image by a ton. I find the same is true of woodworking projects where you want a very smooth glassy finish, but in general I try to keep my grits from cross contaminating regardless. It's just good practice for the times when it actually really matters.
He has a festool. I own a Dewalt random orbital sander, but I got it as a gift, and I wanted to get the Bosch. I recommend the Bosch.
Love that lumber rack. Is there a video on constructing it?
It would be wonderful if you make available in Portuguese subtitles. You are very special and it should be spread around the world in other languages.
Always the best,
Hi Mark can you do a video on hinges?
Different types, installation and what’s best.
Thanks so much….
Excellent explanation! Thanks
Thanks! I'll have to check that out, itll save alot of time.
excellent video. Thanks
One big tip he didn't mention is that the different grit you use creates different stain color. Rough grit- darker the stain will be...less grit will make the wood take less stain. Make sure you use the same grit on everything you do. Never use an RO on dark stain you will always see the swirl marks that or it gets so smooth it won't take stain.
Great info,tips.....thanks
Yes, I thought so ;-) . It just made me giggle a bit..
Thanx for your vids anyway.
Cheers from Denmark
Clear and informative, thx!
As always another well crafted video. So taking this to the next step, I am interested in learning more about finishing and refinishing. Are there any books / reference material that you could recommend?
Is that the ETS 150/3? Have you ever used it to sand a door? I am sanding some interior doors and then staining them. Used a palm sander that left swirls. Veneer may be one that can only be done by hand since it scratches really bad when you cross the grain. And all of the sanders will cross the grain. Thank you.
As usual, nicely produced. The question of "how do I know when I have sanded enough" is not well covered based on my web searches. The pencil marks are a good indicator but I am wondering if there is a visual tool (perhaps a scope) or some other device or method that can be used to determine when it is time to advance to the next grit or to determine if a spot has been missed. Thanks.
Super video. Thanks
Thank you Mark! great video..... :-)
If I want to extend the useful life of my sandpaper I will do two things:
1) I will clean the paper with a plastic, brass, or stainless steel, brush (depending on the paper I'm using, and the the material I'm sanding).
2) I cover the back of the paper with a decent quality masking tape (obviously no hook and loop use, but I will apply new paper to a used piece of hook and loop with some adhesive on the back of the masking tape sticking to the used up grit).
Good info, thank you: )
@nok1n Yup. Just search for "lumber rack" and you'll find it. :)
Thank you very much, this was usefull and i want to see more of your vids :)
Have you ever used one of those sandpaper cleaners? They are basically a giant eraser block that you run the sand paper over and cleans out the clogs. Do you have an opinion on these?
Great video. How much pressure should I put on an orbital sander? Just let it work with it's own weight? Double it?
What about TYPES of sanders? If i have a hand-held belt sander is it going to be effective for fine grain?
Great video
hes got the festool ets, there is ets 3 and ets 5, the ets 3 ( i think is the one in the video), has a smaller orbit motion 3mm, and the ets 5 has a 5mm orbital motion, so they produce different smothness, BUT... they are quite expensive being a festool !!, i know you didnt ask me :), but i would recomend the bosch for a beginner or even a pro, they are popular well priced and good quality! : )
The most efficient way to sand is to follow the advice provided --- and get someone else to do it.
@Bojanawwr belt sander is really more used to take alot of wood off my dad and me use the bely sander to only really to make coners round and cleaning paint off wood
liked it. making adirondack chairs but the true chairy looking ones. i get squiggles, but found why recently. think im gana try 220 as my last grit. did you say soapy water to sand wood?
hi I work with pine ...but it has a grain texture I sanded it to 220 grit to smooth but still has a lil grain texture ...how do I get it smooth flat.........? it dimension lumber im using....1x12x10
Do you have a video on choosing random orbital sander? What opm range to use, what orbit diameter to choose? Thx.
Thank you.
Marc, I'm very curious if you have ever used the trend air shield pro respirator and if so what's your thoughts. I know that regular respirators work well but I find that during long sanding periods you end up beat, sweating, and sometimes with a headache from laboring for air. love everything you do my friend
I haven't tried one but I'd like to. Maybe I'll order one up after we get settled in the new shop.
Good one dudd!
Nice video clip, how about Mirka Abranet sandpaper, or Carborundum sandpaper?
You are awesome!
Thanks. I just saw 3 things I've been doing wrong.
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Why would 63 people dislike this great video?
@TheWoodWhisperer Very sneaky! I'll check it out thanks!
Thank.
You.
I like the idea of connecting the dust collector to the sander, but every hose I've used is very stiff and tough to manage--any recommendation?
Thats helpful thanks a lot
Is there a way to declog sandpaper or is it just time to throw it out and get a new one?
verry nice could you do a vidieo on advance sanding going in to more depth. As you say you could spend hours talking about sanding.
i cant wait to see if u put a video out on my birthday november 29
I use 3M TriMite silicon carbide paper. I haven’t found anything better or longer lasting. Don’t forget sandpaper dressing sticks if you want your paper to last much longer.
What do you think about the Diablo sand net?
For rough knotty pine shelving boards - 3M Purple Regalite Resin Bond 80 Grit Cloth Sanding Belt,3x21 - is good or not?
i love hand sanding steel
What kind of orbit sander do you have there? I am looking to upgrade from the one I am using now (had it for 10 years or so). Or which ones do you recommend?
Hey. Have you tried the CEROS or DEROS Mirka sanders?
Have you done a vid on that lumber rack?
I have a 25 year old table with lacquer finish. The finish if ok but I just want to give it an extra coat of clear finish. I can't spray lacquer in the apartment. If I scuff the surface with 320 grit, COULD I USE WATERLOX WIPE-ON ?
Other than Festool, do you have another paper you recommend? I use Diablo mostly because it's available, but after watching this I wonder is it just a fancy name, or is it quality paper?
I am having some cedar benches made. Unfortunately, most of the cedar obtainable is rough cedar and needs sanding. What sanding product would you use on a orbital sander?
Have you tested the mirka abranet? I thinkt they collect the dust better and clogs less then the festal papers.
can you post some projects like you used to do?
There are three certainties in life; Death, Taxes and Hand sanding. Sheesh!!