BLACK IN BUENOS AIRES- YOU WONT BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Hola Mi gente! In this episode I explore the crazy city of La Boca
The fans of the La boca Jrs are the craziest I have ever seen. The people here we’re so nice…..But we also ran into so people who didn’t want us there!!!
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It’s amazing to see how many people come to the comments to defend the guys in the video saying that these people weren’t racist.😂😂😂😂
Because of the recent huge hate argentina is receiving, i guess people are trying to "explain" things, but in this case there is no justification, they were definitely trying to offend you.
Anyways, is good to know that you had a good experience in general.
@@camh4163 thanks for this. It’s crazy that people try to “explain” things as a way of culture lol. They can just say it’s unfortunate and keep on watching the vlog but they want to “explain” lol thanks for the love !
Osea para ti un país como Argentina ,que NUNCA ha tenido ni tiene colonias en África, que nunca ha comercializado esclavos qué nunca ha tenido un zoológico de 👨🏿🦲 , es racista comparado con otros como Francia o EEUU o Brasil??..😂😂😂😂😂
@@Sirius-je5zs Lo que sea que digas, chico
un grupo de inchas borrachos siempre le van a decir algo a alguien, si pasa un gordo le van a decir algo tambien aunque ellos mismos sean gordos ,a dimaria le dicen fideo por ser flaco ,tenia una amiga que le decian blanqui por ser muy blanca ,pero no te van a hacer nada ,son cosas de futbol,ahora si pasas con una camiseta diferente a la de los inchas ahi si vas a tener problemas seas quien seas ,solo podes ponerte su camiseta o la camiseta de argentina , si pones la de river adios,y si son inchas de river y pasas con la de boca adios.
That group of people who yelled at you and your friend, I'm 100% sure that they wanted to rob you and when you didn't agree to go with them, they got angry and started with racist insults. I'm sorry that you had to go through that ugly moment.
The people who verbally attacked them do not discriminate, they do it with everyone they see who is not from the area. Surely they wanted to rob them when they saw that they were foreigners. They were lucky
Racista defendendo racismo
Claaro tampoco la cancion contra los franceses es racista, cuantos negadores abundan hoy. pareciera que quieren tener la moral intacta
@@inaciojunior5334No, de hecho cuando te metes en zonas peligrosas de argentina te van a gritar cosas y posiblemente robarte, es normal eso acá, por eso hay que tener cuidados, te van a gritar así sea un elfo de ojos azules, te ven como un blanco y si se dan cuenta que eres extranjeros peor, hay que tener cuidados en los lugares donde te metes
es verdad jaja
es de lo mas normal cuando entras a estos barrios y ves grupitos así
I am Argentinian and I have lived in the US for 25 years and I have seen the same situation many times and sometimes I have seen it with Hispanics. It is also evident that this boy was intoxicated and that happens a lot at soccer games, which is why many Argentinians do not go to the studios and They prefer to watch the game on TV, some tourists walk through very poor neighborhoods and that is usually dangerous in Argentina. Many people wonder, and are more than happy to tell you why. places you have to visit and which ones you shouldn't but it seems that this boy from California likes adventures and that takes risks like that bad moment could have been more terrible, they were lucky to take care of themselves
great attitude ...and yea Im from Argentina ...and you are right the majority is not like that ,,those guys that got weird they don't speak for the whole of Argentina or Buenos Aires .....if you ask me they seemed like wanted to befriend you to mug you or pick pocket you ...I didn't like their vibe .they clearly had you out numbered ..it was just the wrong group ..you done the right thing to keep away from them ...and you done the right thing to stay in Argentina Longer ...great work 👍👍👍👍 thanks
Those who insulted you wanted to rob you. Be careful next time.
Keep enjoying Argentina.
If they wanted to they could have, and being careful is what i did
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_ Those were barras (hooligans). As he said, they probably wanted you to go watch the game and they would act "friendly" for a while and then try to rob you or rip you off or force you to buy things for them in the bar. They smell tourists. These kind of people is the reason I stopped going to the Boca stadium 5 years ago. I rather watch in on TV than be surrounded by criminals for 1.5 hours
Not trying to rob him, definately troublemakers who just want to cause trouble with anyone, a real shame
@@yumfi4083 exactly lol ! I just let ppl talk lol ! They literally just wanted to start some 💩 with us !!! People don’t know that there are 100’s of cops at boca games on every corner
Hola !! Lamentablemente los hechos de inseguridad los vivimos diariamente ... hay zonas muy inseguras ... esos chicos actúan de esa manera con todo el mundo ... y más con extranjeros porque los agarran desprevenidos ... Saludos !!! Y ojalá hayas disfrutado tu viaje 👌👍
You played it right. That was a G move, and you kept your logic in check. Now, when we have a Black UA-camr meet up out there one year, and we're deep af, let's go for another walk lol
Thats factssssssss when they gang wit me vibes will be different
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_gotta go deep there. They ethnocided the Afro/Indigenous Argentinians, but I know all them not like that
Thanks for sharing. I'm hoping to visit BA and as a black man, I appreciate this
18:28 Yeah, you sadly encouter one of the bad sides of Argentina (wich is ""expected"" in the hood) some bad and inaducated people. Im not gonna say that they weren't racist, because they are, but is the same people that would call some things like that to some argentine white as paper. Those are drug adicts you can find, I assume in neighbourhoods of USA too. Not saying they weren't racist but they would insult anyone, white, black, or any skin color.
I agree
I stayed there a month got a apartment in San Telmo. And America is not the most racist country. Go spend some time in Kyiv, Ukraine I had a racial incident within 4 hours of landing in that country. No bullshit.
Ukraine is crazy but the demographic is not the same as usa. We are a huge melting pot of races and still find time to be racist toward everyone.
In my opinion
We know you love Buenos Aires. Just want you to know that we love you back. Saludos.
Your attitude is definitely one to mimic! Great episode! I love the way you addressed the incident at the end of your video. I am excited about your journey!
Salute homie. I had a run in at the Starbucks in Buenas Aires when the this family came walked right in front of me in line like they didn’t see me and barista tried to serve them like she didn’t see me. I was hot about that, but I didn’t let it ruin my time.
Que lindo! Yo tenía una sueño casi 15 años para ver Argentina y ahora yo vivo aquí! 🥰
Dude! I am very sorry that you have had that unpleasant experience, normally there are dangerous people at football games, perhaps you had the misfortune to run into them. It is as you say, there are all kinds of people here and everywhere and we are usually cool but there are always 1 or 2 who don't respect and are racist . I want you to know that you are always welcome to our country, I hope you enjoyed your stay. Great video ;)
Thank you Luca for this comment! A lot of people comment on this video and make excuses for their behavior
I am glad you recognize it is not right, i do the same when my people act craxy in America
I love Buenos Aires. I hope you have a great life’s!!!! Thank you
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_they were drunk hood people who have nothing going on their lives obviously, the type if guys to punch somebody because they have another team Jersey, you guys did well in not engaging likely someone had a knife plus they were a group.
This is facts brother ! @@masterchief-yj7yw
"a famous author once said " Girls are like buses, miss one next 15 one comin" lmmfao good ole Rodrick Davis
Good attitude. You are right. It goes both ways. I had to explain to a friend that Jamaica is not all bad because he had a bad experience. Not all of Jamaica is racist. There are ignorance everywhere. Obviously my friend is not black.
Please don’t compare Jamaica with Argentina. Go read the history of Argentine. Colourism and racism is different.
@@Pebles_chat There is/was no segregation in Argentina's history!
We always allowed inter-ethnic marriages.
Hell, we have a black guy who's son of a Ghanaian man & Argentinian woman playing for Argentina's basketball team!
We had Héctor Baley, Santiago Lovell, Rigoberto Diaz de Armas, José Ramos Delgado & even Alejandro de los Santos as well known artists/sportsmen who gained admiration & acclamation of all Argentinian people 😊.
We have few blacks, but even those few succeeded very well in our "racist" country.
@@Pebles_chatwhat about history of Argentina? When it comes to racism and racial issues, it's a thousand times better than history of USA, Brazil or Europe. By the way, Argentinians (after independence process - before Argentina didn't exist as a country) have never enslaved anyone based on race, have never segregated anyone based on race.
Good you did not act on emotions big bro. Keep your cool when you out of your surroundings and avoid altercation. Stay safe and have a good time in Argentina.
People not seeing this as racism in the comments are the problem. I grew up in Argentina and been out of there for 20 years. Everytime I come back or speak to Argentinians it baffles me how normalized and funny racism is to them. Even towards their native population, who in reality, are the true Argentinians. Your 40% European ain't gonna cut it outside of Argentina lil bro. You will also be descriminated against outside in other countries for not being truly 100% white. Maybe thats something you should see or experience to realize how awful, unfair and pointless discrimination is. It doesn't make sense to be a racist a.hole when you could potentially be a victim of this backwards mentality. And I'm not saying only Argentina is like this, this is also an issue in the majority of spanish speaking countries including Spain itself ane it needs to stop. Even though they didn't say literally n-word they called someone by their race and in a angry tone. So yeh i don't thats acceptable as they wouldn't have called a white guy by their race. You guys are coping you need to get out of your bubble and see whats really going on. Racism is not okay. N-word or not that was a racist aggression
No le dijeron la n-word porque seguramente no la conozcan, si no, se la hubieran dicho. Además, no hay una traducción literal en español. Claramente esos tipos querían aprovecharse de ellos porque tenían toda la pinta de extranjeros (es decir, tienen dólares, que para un villero es como tener oro más o menos) y como les dijeron que no, los atacaron personalmente. Es más, yo creo que si hubieran sido blancos y rubios también los hubieran insultado, porque vi varios casos así o parecidos en videos de extranjeros por Buenos Aires, pero si. Claramente sus comentarios fueron racistas.
If you're Argentinian you should have a better comprehension about that situation. Those guys didn't attack them or insult them because of their skin tone, they did it cause they're foreigners (wealthy foreigners to them). If they had been blond Americans instead, they would have been through the same shitty situation. The guy appeared to be friendly when he approached them, but he had a negative vibe and bad intentions (probably robbery). An Argentinian can easily tell cause we know our country and we know our people, foreigners (even more if they don't speak the language) have a cultural barrier that makes it harder to notice stuff like that right away. These guys were what we call "fisuras", sort of like junkies or highly intoxicated people who want to make trouble or get in trouble if they don't get what they want. The guy asked for a smoke, they refused, he asked them to join them and they refused. So he got mad he wasn't gonna get what he expected and started insulting and messing around with them as revenge. Sadly, in situations like that, (a football match around the stadium full of intoxicated "fisuras") you might encounter that type of people.
@@nadiapitarch5870 nadia ese tipo de personas racistas son parte de tu país, aceptalo. tu país tiene muchisimos racistas y racismo sistémico desde antes de sus inicios.
le estas pidiendo a un villero que sepa sobre racismo, es un chiste?? es como que pienses que los pandilleros de US representan a estados unidos, argentina no es un "danger place" para la gente negra solamente se cruzo con pandilleros, en estados unidos pasaria lo mismo si un "blanquito" cae en un barrio pesado..
To all tourists out there... be careful in the San Telmo and La Boca region. Mostly at night. I'm an argie and don't like nobody to be robbed or injured. The south part of the city is more dangerous.
those guys were 100% racist & used that word to provoke, they knew what they were doing. sorry for those argentinians in the comments trying to excuse them, i'm argentinian and fortunately many of us are aware of what happens here. no, it is not "oh everyone's friendly, here racism doesn't exist". it does. less than usa surely but there are racist people. hope it didn't ruin your experience!
@@lyn.8059 you are a real one !!! Thank you
One thing you gotta understand... saying the N word in other countries means nothing. They said those things because they are Americans, not because they are black... if the dudes had been from Africa nobody would've called them in that way... they think Americans = rich people.
I understand that black Americans wouldn't think of themselves as rich but to people in poor countries... you are rich.
@@victorfergn flaco, soy argentina. no vengás a joder con eso de "ayyy negro no significa nada". sí significa algo y aunque es verdad que no hay racismo como el que se experimenta en USA (en su mayoría), estos en particular sí fueron racistas. le dijeron lo que le dijeron buscando ofenderlo y si no lo ves, tampoco me sorprende. dejen de comerse y vender el cuento de que acá son todos unos angelitos que reciben a todos con los brazos abiertos porque no es verdad.
Just discovered this channel and it's nice to know what outsiders think about our culture and people. I'm sorry you had to experienced that, for sure that group of antisocials do not define a whole nation, and I hope you guys come back in the near future.
Regards from Barranquilla, Colombia.
Yo bro i love Colombia this has never happened in Colombia
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_ hey! I know this happened in BsAs, i was speaking on behalf of my friends in Argentina, i've got some many good friends over there and i know there are many good people man! But anyways, it's good to see you enjoy LATAM, take care always!
@@edgardelahoz1477 thanks Edgar 💪🏾💪🏾
You mean Argentina that believes it is A European nation with almost 200 years of slaving and erasing black history ...a country that silenced the achievements and contributions of afro-argentines ...Best believe they are mad racist.
Aprendo inglés con tus videos, gracias por visitar mí país . Espero disfrutes!
¡Ahhh gracias, gracias por tu apoyo, te suscribo y disfrutas!
It's not an excuse, because it was racist, but I think you should now that as Argentines they don't know the weight of that word, they just know it's an offensive word and that's why they used it. And they were trying to rob you anyways, that wasn't a friendly invitation to watch the game.
So glad you are in Buenos Aires, see the reality of argentines, you cannot go wrong in BA a city packed with diversity, enjoy your stay!!!🎉
Football for Argentina and Brazil it’s pure Passion!
On behalf of all of Argentina I'm sorry about that last situation in La Boca, there are no excuses for that bullshit.
Y'all handled that beautifully!!! The response from your friend took me out because he's right! My money loooooong!!!! Adios 🤣
I love how you handled yourself
Hey brother! good vlog and glad to see you went to la Boca. Just a precision about the last thing you said:
There is definitely racism in every country in the world and Argentina (Buenos Aires) is no exception. But there is an element of culture and idiosyncrasy in Argentina where the N word does not really have a pejorative connotation or seek to offend/discriminate someone because of the color of its skin. It is likely that the person who shouted it at you did it with a funny but negative intention (I have not see the segment to be able to interpret it), but just so you know in case you hear it again from someone else, the N word here (Argentina) is a relatively common word to adress someone with affection and closeness (whether for people of color, a completely caucasian guy, an old guy or a young guy) or to describe a guy that has a reproachable behavior (and here it generates the same social condemnation of its use). But this is almost never associated with a racial component.
By this I mean that 9 out of 10 times that someone here uses the N word, do not actually have any cultural or racial component attached to it like you may find 10/10 times in the US. Thatas why we do not take dimension of the weight of that word and we use it with a very different and more "casual" sense than in other countries. It is like being called "wey" in Mexico, "pana" in Venezuela or "parse" in Colombia. The problem is that that word has a very negative cultural impact for the U.S, but not for the rest.
But one way or another I think you know perfectly well how to differentiate a country from an idiot, so any clarification are redundant. Looking forward to more videos!
N-word is not the same as "negro", negro can be friendly or insulting depending on context, but we don't have friendly uses for the N-word. This was an idiot who as you say maybe didn't taken dimension of the weight of the word. But he was clearly not being friendly.
The levels you go to defend this is sad. In 2022 these people know what they are doing and they know these brothers were black Americans and come from a county where that word has a deep rooted negative history. And you didn’t even watch the video, why even make a comment? This is bad faith at best.
@@BenevolentDictator13 Whatever dude. To come to a country with a prejudice that it is a racist country (even before what supposedly happened) is quite offensive and then label it as such because some drunks in La Boca called you the N-word or Pussy (which would also make them homophobic too) in the context of a futbol game in La Boca is simply to overstate everything. You simply do not know the culture, the idiosyncrasy, the folcroe, the humor and the cultural differences. No one should have even called him a pussy imo, but same as that word, it definitely does not have the racial or homofobic charge that it might have in the US simply because those are two different cultures. But for some reason you want to attribute to it and create a victim. Maybe to promote the channel with things like ""suscríbete a mi canal, mis nuevos vlogs de hoy muestran que un fan es racista conmigo"" or some kind of click bait. IDK. If you want to believe that was said by a "white supremacist" in La Boca, then believe it dude. But I beg to differ.
@@BenevolentDictator13 los argentinos no saben nada de USA. No conocen nada de la historia de estados unidos.
@@poluxsaurus1454 Well, you are right and I know those people were not being friendly since that before they said "negro" (because they didn't say nigger, we don't use that word cause not everybody knows is an offensive word ), they said "negro pelotudo". Of course I'm not defending them, those kind of people are the leftover of the worst thing in Argentina and for sure they wanted to get my man's camera and who knows if everything he got at that moment...
But well, the first comment is right in someway, because most of the times we use "negro" in a different way than to be racist. Anyways, what I wanted to say is that he's not totally wrong and "negro" which is the word those people used, is not always used in a bad way, I think that's important cause some people may tell him "negro" as an easy way to talk to him, but it will not mean that they are racist, at least not if that person use it in a good way.
I’ve experienced much worse in the US. And as you said, there’s bad people everywhere and you were clearly in the hood around some drunks. What hood in the US that got drunks WOULDNT do the same ?!? Lol but you moving like a real one and good on you for not classifying the whole city by just the 0.01% of bad. Keep traveling, keep learning, keep opening up ya mind and stay safe wherever you go. 🙏🏾 Bless up!
Thanks bro that’s real talk
La boca ain’t the hood no more tho it used to be. Those j soccer fans that always get drunk like football fans in America.
16:35 The cigarette on the ear lmaoooooooooo
My favorite part
@LORD Hi man, first of all, thank you for visiting my country!
I can't apologize and I won't do it when my beloved country is called racist, because we're not. When we say certain things, it's said with love.
At 8:18, you can hear a policeman calling you 'EH, SEÑOR, VENGA VENGA VENGA VENGA.' He probably thought you were deaf, but the truth is that you're just not familiar with the country you're in. Several times, you can spot some little kids in the corners with flat hats. They're not lost... they're just hustling.
I hope you can come again when our society and economy start to face better days or at least begin to bloom.
@LORDWILLIAMSON_ of course there are idiots and little shids
for more context search for "Trevor Noah responds to french ambassador"
Cool that you had a great time in Argentina.
You didn' t understand those guys....they didn' t say those words with the meaning of the words to you....they said those words because they were people who talks rude in spanish with those words, so they were happy "to know" how to say the sames words in english !!! ....very diffetent !!! We don' t have racism in Argentina
Another thing to say...is that in Argentina, the same words wich you use to insult, we use in a friendly way too...strange but true.
come on...
@@angelesduciel you don't know but it's the truth...is not easy to understand Argentine people but is like I said...and the intention is the important thing to define if it is insult or frendly word.
@@enfoquearq6267 soy argentina y everyone knows that the n word is racist or an insult, of course they're ignorant about how impactful or disgusting it's but yes, they were racist, they said it because he's black
Naaa no hay chance, esa banda de borrachos vieron que los tipos no les hicieron caso y por eso los insultaron, puede haber casos de malentendidos, pero en este simplemente se encontraron a un grupo de impresentables, no lo podes justificar.
@@enfoquearq6267 No, NO! es muy fácil entender la intención que tenían. Ese racismo es parte de tu país aceptenlo.
Wow, that was a wild encounter that you had in La Boca but you handled it properly. I've only ever had one similar incident and it was in the city of Salta. It was the same type of characters.
I have family from Argentina, and i wanted to say that "negro" is not necessarily racist in there, it's often used to refer to close friends or people in a familiar way, regardless of their races.
Often argentinian college girls and guys would call each other negras /negros, it basically means "dude, bro, cousin" most of the time.
It really depends on the context and the way it is being used.
I don't think the guy in the video was racist, but they definitely wanted you no good.
"negro" is like "homie"
Claramente le dijeron negro para bardearlo, fueron racistas. La palabra negro es muy ambigua en Argentina. Yo soy más blanco que la leche y muchas veces me dijeron negro, generalmente se usa como apodo para la gente que es de piel más oscura, por más que no sea afrodescendiente y dependiendo el contexto, claro que puede tener una connotación negativa.
Me alegra que te hayas dado cuenta que siempre hay algún imbécill que trata de molestar, pero la mayoría de la gente no es así, lamento que hayas pasado ese mal momento, mucha suerte en tu vida
Gracias hermano !
I think those people were not racist. Just dumb people looking for trouble. La Boca it's dangerous. Just go to Palermo or other neighborhoods with similar vibes and you will find just love. People in Argentina are really friendly.
Na i don’t stay in tourist areas bro that ain’t what seeing the country is about! I don’t make excuses for when ppl ar racist!!! And yea they were dumb ppl regardless!
Dejemos de normalizar estas actitudes, claramente se lo dijeron de manera peyorativa encima cagándose de risa.
18:17 These guys say to you that you can watch the match with them and exchange your hats, and they tell you that because if u dont see the match with them, you're a fan from the other team thats why they insult you
don't pay attention to that guy that said the N word...they're intoxicated...argentinians are not racist at all man...in fact this is the best country for black people (sorry i don't know if saying that is offensive too)
Gracias por visitar mi pais, disculpas por los inadaptados y estupidos que les dicen eso para provocar, espero que vuelvan pronto son bienvenidos cuando quieran, visiten el interior del pais que es hermosos saludos amigos!!
Those guys were trying to involve you in a fight or something to rob you. They would say anything bad to make you angry.
Estimado, hizo lo correcto, soy de Argentina y estoy casi seguro que ese grupo al final del video quería robarte. Al no lograrlo se sacaron la careta y mostraron su verdadero rostro
gracias gabreil!!!
Creo que solo dijeron las palabras que aprendemos pero no fue agresión, es como esa mujer que decia Hello, pero bueno creo que tampoco pasó nada como para decir que somos racistas .
the last guys, as an argentinian, they wanted to rob you, or "friendly" make you pay for beers, weed and stuff. They couldnt so they started saying all that
Tuviste suerte, esos tipos te iban a robar, pero como que se arrepintieron y los dejaron ir. De haberse quedado con ellos, ya no tendrías tus cosas. En éste caso, tal vez tu apariencia te salvó. 🤔
Estaba bien, he estado allí un tiempo y si quieren robar a alguien, lo robarán pase lo que pase
Amigo ni yo que soy argentino, me acercaria. Son gente peligrosa que te puede robar o hacer daño. Están bajo el efecto de alcohool o drogas. Debes conocer nuestro pais de norte a sur y verás la diversidad del país, Buenos Aires es una ciudad mas de Argentina, te lo recomiendo.
As an Argentinian, let me apologize for what happened to you. An then, let me try to put it on context. So..
1) We're racists here, way more than we like to admit.
2) Racism here doesn't work as it does in the US, for it's not centered in Afro American ethnicity. Yet when addressing racism, USA cultural influence is so strong that we end up adopting your discussion cathegories and idioms, applied over what here are seen as forced stereotypes.
3) Racism main target here is what in the US is identified as "Latino" at first glance, people claiming a "brown identity" (literally) because they're not (pale) white enough to not being segregated in the sense African American are in the USA, yet not black enough as to be seen as the stereotypical target for racism in the aforementioned cathegories. Racism expresses as being frown upon, doubting of capabilities or moral standards, and more than imposing a crystal roof holding them down, to have them walking on a muddy floor making it hard to take off, excluding people from social circles and depriving them from job opportunities. But you won't be shot by the police when they stop your car.
4) Language: in Spanish there is no other word for "black" than "negro", so the so called N-word in English is unavoidable and deprived of racial implications in many contexts, even when applied to people. In fact, in places like Córdoba with a high intermix of ethnicities, people use the word "negro" as "bro" in English and even as if it were a pronoun, even to address the palest white people.
Yet, the word "negro" is derogatory in some context. In particular it's used to discriminate people of brown identity and people of lower social class than the speaker and disregarding ethnicity. So, even white people from poor neigborhoods would be called "negros".
5) Bit of history: during colonization, Spain and Portugal made a peace treaty (Tordesillas treaty) splitting the conquerable World in two. They draw an imaginary longitudinal line, everything at the East of that line would be callable by Portugal, and at the West by Spain. Hence Spain had no business in Africa, and wasn't involved in slave trading. Their main workforce came from the conquered Native Americans. On top of that, Church was strong in Spain and they pursued to convert natives to Christianity. Servilism was ok, but not slavery in the sense of property. The Church promoted to free and protect the slaves, and since they slaves were Portuguesse main work force, this also undermined their expansion efforts, so Spain endorsed the polocy. This line passes trough (and made) the border between Argentina and Brazil et Uruguay. Slave traders avoided Buenos Aires ports and went to Montevideo instead, hence the huge difference of Afro American population at both sides of the line.
6) Aristocrats and high class people at the East (Buenos Aires, as opposed to Córdoba) indeed had slaves but they weren't open about it, blurring the line between slaves and servants. Slaves (as most servants) could be free to leave, but with nowhere to go but to serve other people.
By the time of our Independence, the Constitution stated anyone setting foot in Argentina would be free. They also enforced a "law of womb": newborn from slaves would be free. Yet, they kept being excluded from many activities. They end up enrolled in wars like the Patagonia conquering one, and that decimated the African American population, while in the West it intermixed with Native American and with white as well, than then moved East. So it's very likely that most of us having 3 or more generation here, have Native American and African heritage, even when seen or identifying ourselves as white.
Many people that are seen as white here would be identified as African American or Latino in the US, so this also made up into offical stats telling there are less Afro descendants than we actually are.
7) We multiply our population through immigration from Europe, the say goes "Argentinians are descent from boats". We perceive ourselves as white Europeans disregarding our true ethnic heritage. Argentinian black people face a different manifestation of racism, without necessarily being segregated, from being seen as foreigners. Things like being asked to present their passport to identify themselves, that ends up excluding them anyway, so even for them the racism doesn't work the same way than in the US, and lacking cathegories from the US cultural influence, it becomes hard for them to address the issue.
The conclussion is that even when we're racists, it manifests in such a different way than it does in the US, that you cannot read what happened to you trough the same lens.
I don't know exaclty what happened, but my educated guess is that you meet a bunch of seldom drunk people that here would be called "negros" in a derogatory manner and they know it (in fact, Boca team and it's fans are called, even by themselves, "bosteros", meaning both "shitty ones" and "shit shovelers", whilst their main adversary team, River Plate, are "the millionaries"). They were inviting you, applying racial prejudice, I'd say parhaps expecting to take advantage of you in some way, like making you pay the beers, but then, it could have been a genuine friendly invitation. The way you dismissed it was offensive for them (I'd say, even dangerous for you). They noticed you're American and they watched enough TV as to know how to crawl under your skin. And they managed to. Because none of what they said to you is used in here, nor is a valid translation for any racial slur used in here, but what we know is a racial slur in the US. Add a dose of anti American feelings to the mix, and what you've got would be more from being American than from being black. And probabily, being Afro American is what saved you both from a beating.
If I may say, you seemed over confident in a place you didn't quite understood, and I believe you lacked some local coaching on how to safely turn down people. And don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming the victim, that were you both here. But placing this on the racial realm ain't just a mistake, it may hinder you from understanding something that may concern to your future safety overseas.
Please, be welcomed to come back, and I hope you to make this place a home you'd want to return to over and over.
The commentary hilarious fr 😂 you 🐐’d at this!!
My dog we on the way!!! beeleedat
Don't worry, I apologize for those bad words, we consume a lot of Hollywood movies by the Wayans brothers, Bad Boys, we love that kind of humor.
Here there is no racism that existed in your country, that's why people who are not educated do not understand that it is wrong to say those words. They just wanted to make a joke. Be friendly. They were greeting you in your language. They are just stupid. I'm sure they were Jews. It's just a way. to be friendly in the neighborhood that's how we talk to each other in the spicy neighborhoods we also call each other black but with love my black regardless of skin color greetings friends
wayans bros is a classic lol
Está de moda, buscar racistas en Argentina.
We Argentines are not racist, we are offensive and we will say what is necessary to offend you when you are a rival or for some reason that we want to provoke you, that is something that the rest of the world does not understand about us.
@@marceloc2526 lol that doesn’t make it any better
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_ Of course not, but at least let them criticize us for what we are and not for what they think we are. 🙃
@@marceloc2526 your perspective is different than mine we will agree to disagree
as an argentine this is SO SAD. i'm very sorry that this happened to you, the person who insulted you is a weirdo, a violent man, probably a drug addict. La Boca was fun, it would have been great if you guys had the chance to go to the game
No worries thank you for the kind words, and we actually went to a game it was crazyyyyyy i loved it
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_ oh then i need to see that video! np, ty for visiting
Si hay algo que tienen que tener en claro los extranjeros, es que no hay nada mejor que ser argentino. Y a demás, este territorio es libre para todo el mundo. Hay muchisima diversidad de personas y cultura.
Hi man, if you are still in Buenos Aires I can take you for a walk all over the place and I can take you to places where tourists don't go.
Why would they invite you guys to watch the game with them if they were racist is what I don’t understand. In Argentina, English swear words are the first words they learn and to them it doesn’t sound as offensive when they use them compared to Spanish slurs.
Back in 85 I played professional basketball their. The people were cool for the most part. Must of the guys on the team didn't like me I think it was because the girls would call me American baby.
lol Argentina racism much deeper than this dude realises. The history is crazy. They wiped out their darker skinned people and want to keep it that way lol
I know the history and that’s not what the video is about a lot of people know this lol this video was about MY encounter!
Quisiera saber en que te basas para decir esto.
La Boca what do you expect
You are basically a french dude turist walking around a South Los Angeles projects😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@patriciorojas7700 a French dude in the projects wouldn’t have walked out with his camera or unharmed
They tried to bait you good job on how you handled that
Corren más peligro en zonas que son malas por ser norteamericano y hablar ingles, de consejo cuando una zona sea catalogada de peligrosa vayan con alguien que conozca porque sino se van a topar con muchas personas que se les van a acercar con la finalidad de pedirles dinero. Si estas en Palermo la Ciudad te va a parecer tranquila porque hay bastante clase media pero en otros barrios más complicados se nota la diferencia, en la actualidad estamos en crisis y la gente esta más violenta lo tienen que tener en cuenta también. Toda la zona norte y parte de centro de la Ciudad se pueden mover tranquilos barrios como (Palermo, Recoleta, Belgrano, Villa Urquiza, Colegiales, Caballito, Villa Crespo, Puerto Madero, Nuñez, etc) fuera de Caba se puede ir también a la zona norte a zonas como ( Vicente Lopez, San Isidro, Tigre)
Gracias x como dejás parado al país
@@dogoargentino2102 La verdad no duele, la situación económica genera que haya más violencia en la calle y gente resentida buscando cualquier motivo para agredir.
Palermo es un poco más peligroso actualmente para turistas. Muchos robos y a veces violentamente
@@dogoargentino2102 Y que quieres que le mienta bldo? Claramente lo querían re chorear
Aguantaaa amigo, hay miles de lugares en Buenos Aires adonde pueden ir además de Tigre y San Isidro. El tema es no ir revoleando una cámara y un celular y hablando en inglés a los 4 vientos que se note que sos turista de a 10 cuadras. Hay que resguardarse un poco y tener intuición para saber cuando conviene pasar más desapercibido, nada más. Lo cual entiendo que es difícil si estás intentando filmar un video para YT. Y obviamente evitar villas, o lugares heavys en serio.
Who the F goes to La Boca! For God's sake
@@maxiaguirrei guess i can’t go to a soccer game on a Sunday afternoon
Soccer hooligans and thugs are a nuisance all over the globe 😂
The boca Is a danger zone for anyone
Que "linda" la gente de boca, siempre dando el ejemplo, borrachos, maleducados no se quién puede ir para esa zona, que bueno que filmen para que se vea esa cara de BsAs porque yo jamás aconseje a ningún turista ir por ahí aunque medio mundo me odie por eso. Por cierto acá vas a aprender algo siendo afrodescendiente son los mestizos los que más te pueden descriminar no los blancos, cosa rara pero son los peores.
those guys can inmediately know you are foreign, and when they saw you all careless with your phone out they tried to test you and see if they could rob you. Dont be filming in bad neighbourhoods
No fueron racistas y no hicieron un carajo...qué están diciendo en este chat?!!!...los tipos sólo quisieron demostrar que saben palabras en inglés...y bueeeeno, sólo sabían insultos...pero copados les dijeron éso...no para robarles, sino lo habrían hecho...fueron amigables ...pero como a la gente que está vomentando no les gusta su aspecto, acá están tirándose contra ellos que no hicieron nada malo a estos turistas!!!
Lo que sea que te haga sentir mejor
siiii, claaaaroo!
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_ compa a mi hijo le dicen negro y yo orgulloso que le digan asi por que no es un insulto decir negro...la suerte d este pais que n nos interesa el color d piel..rubio negro blanco colorados aca se les dicen negro negrito d cariño
That group of people want to steal you money doesn't matter your race, and I think you where lucky.
I’m argetian people are very friendly but my advice tried hard to blend in de culture they respect you more a don’t flashing your fancy brand special in neighborhood where people struggle.enjoying your trip Argentinian are very generous friendship is in the culture but we are very passionate we people don’t respect us !
Let me tell you something, the less educated you are, the more open to being racist you are. I've seen it before because I live here, those guys who insulted you are the type of guys that people see coming down the street and chose to walk the other way just in case. It is what it is, sorry if anyone gets offended but it is the truth.
Those goonies just tried to provoke them. They were lucky; under different circumstances, it would have been a different story. Believe me.
I'm argentinian. Racism here is a reality. However, it's oriented to bolivians and paraguayans, not to black people. What I saw there is a group of drunks imitating the slang of the movies, like pulp fiction you know. The usage of the n word in the USA is very particular, and most people here don't know how it works.
Anyway, have a good time here, hope that doesn't happen again.
My Boi spanish got a lot better good job bro!
I’m sorry brother great content, but I disagree all of Argentina is racist, it’s a fabric of their culture, rich black man or not. Keep up the good work though.
Na i was there two months and there’s people who are very nice and will help with anything then there are uneducated people that have no life! Those type are the racist and insecure ones
But i met good ppl there as well
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_ yes of course in argentinia are good people there too with nice culture and food and music but some of them and many politicians are very racist and have the eurocentrism view
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_ Okay brother I am here in OC California that's was funny how they tried to cuss you out in English.Dude go be dudes especially when they drinking with there crew.You could have called them a racial slur but you kept your peace.You a smart brother.
I think Argentina & Italy are two places I'll never visit because of the stigma of racism attached to it
I still say visit but unfortunately racist are everywhere so i understand where u coming from.
Look the soccer matches boca juniors or river plate. Argentinians are calling other Latin Americans boludos or monkeys
No black players in argentinia team
I just don't like going places where I know or feel I'm not welcomed.
@@villano_gringo_negro shit do u live in America lol?
Some weird for us as argentinians is give the same importance to skin colour as u give as north american or european, we dont really care that much about it, we pay more atention to the way people dress or his atitude to talk or get close to some stranger
@@faculopez7985 what does that have to do with being called disrespectful names for no reason? lol
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_ My English is Bad but i'm trying to Say in Argentina exist Bad people like everywhere in the world, social problem here are diferent require another perspective to avoid them, and the new thing is about if we are racist country or not, thats not something we have to change asap in comparison with the trouble that u have here... We have to change that to grown as a country , hope i could express My idea
a Argentina é o país mais racista do mundo nós brasileiros já sabemos disso há muito tempo
Compañero mi hijo es d piel morena morocho como quieras llamarlo y los amigos le dicen negro y para nada es racista llamarlo asi.en argentina el decir negro n es discriminar por que a un blanco rubio colorado se le dice negro tambien d cariño...en sus paises deven ser una palabra recista pero aca en argentina n tiene ese significado d agrecion
Ok I wasn't following you on Instagram yet, I'll do after commenting here, and I'll probably talk more with you there about what you experiencied.
But right off the bat, let me tell you, as I said in the previous video, I'm glad you are staying two more weeks to leave with a better impression of this land.
With that said, what you should know about those hoods is simple and probably as you nicely described.
There is racism everywhere and that is the people like those guys that found you passing by, that made us look worse. Those men probably don't work or study you know? They live from the goverment. Instead of spending money on their future, they live by drugs and crime. (Luckily you guys were out with no harm despite the horrible comments) but ut's sad to think even we as locals live worse.
In football as in no other event, families are less frequent in stadiums surrounded by hoods, cause those men can be around and not only take your phone, but your life.
In this case they were racist and dirty despite your politeness and that's as bad.
And a little detail you may have missed, that guy with the beard who told you were to eat... He was telling you as a normal thing, to go to a place who's owner, is the chief of the hooligans in the local team. People who threat...kill... and don't give a fuck about others than themselves.
That's how naturalized they are in society.
I don't want to get political, cause I don't want my comments to be all about that and long as heck (forgive me) but sadly, these are the people who still have the right to vote and they still vote socialism. Look what that led them to...
But leaving that a side, I'll message you on instagram and I'll be at your dispossal for anything you may need. Thanks for the kindness and for letting me know about the upload despite me being suscribed. You care about your followers and it shows. I'll keep watching. Thanks man!
12:44 spicy in Argentina is not spicy.
Argentina is more of Spanish than English
Good Intel my brother✊🏾but I'm catching a taxi or an Uber every where that I go
When I go there in a couple of months💯
lol they wanted to rob you but good thing u kept walking maybe they felt offended that you didnt wanted to talk to them more because they were clearly drunk but hey it is what it is
U will always find some out the bunch that just feel a way because lack of cereal things ot u don't want to chill. They might just think u feel u better than them. It only a few. Salute bro
Great video I love how people in here making excuses. Their behavior doesn’t surprise me any ways.
Exactly man!
When people are racist in the states i don’t make excuses it is what it is! But to act like this doesn’t exist is apart of the problem lol!!!!
Ok you filmed "La Doce". There's an unwritten rule "no filmes los caras de los pibes loco".
Correct. There are a lot of stupid people in these organised hooligan groups, and ignorance.
If camera was off and you weren't in a hurry to walk past and had the right attitude they would have invited you for a beer,.smoke or a line if inclined.
It's not racist country but you wound them up and they retorted at their basic level.
Also, never wear the colours red and white to La Boca, ffs.
Funny when people see a clip and think they no what they are talking about! We were in la boca we watched the whole game, and hung out with plenty of the locals and had a great time. This happened as we we leaving. If you watch the end of the video i explain that but you took it upon yourself to give a excuse for ignorant behave to say the least. Classic. You should think before giving an opinion. As you literally gave an excuse for stupidity simply because WEEEE did not have the “right attitude” 🤡
Stupidity giving a pass to stupidity lol
Dude, you wandered in a dangerous place, and that people tough that you despised them for being poor.
How did i “despise” them ??? I embraced their culture just like i do in every country i go to
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_ They invited you to join them, and you looked like a rich foreigner scared of them, which is understandable. I'm not accusing you. Just explaining.
I would also been suspicious of them, because they broke your personal space in a suspicious way. That's why it is not a safe place to wander.
@@BongoFerno you gotta be in the situation to know. I’ve been in plenty of hoods they were fake welcoming!. I’d rather wander in a hood in Argentina than in south central Los Ángeles any day
Te metiste en un lugar peligroso. Querían robarte. Cómo no pudieron te insultaron. Ese grupo de gente no son racistas, son peligrosos hasta para los argentinos. Que te haya insultado es lo de menos. La sacaste barata
those mfs def wanted to rob u
commenting really late but that last thing that happened to you was awful. were they being racist? yes, probably. but at the same time i’m pretty sure no one there knew what they were really saying (still racist tho!). also those people are probably disrespectful to everyone that’s why we often recommend no to go to those places. regardless of that i hope you had a good time in argentina and that was just a bad moment
Thanks for the well wishes. They def knew what they were saying though lol
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_ yes they meant full offence no doubts about it!
That incident had nothing to do with race. You chose to go to the most dangerous area at the most dangearous moment!! I'm Argentinian and -as you would put it- "white". If had gone throught that crowd I would have had a worse time.
Now, I'm not denying the existence of racism, but that was not it. It was like you walking through a gang of "criminals"
@@chesarosanroman499 whatever you say champ
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_ It's not what I say, it's what I know. Neither I or any of my friends and acquaintaces would dare to go there. Did you not notice the police barricading the street right around?
@@chesarosanroman499 whatever you say my guy 🤘🏾
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_ Wow!! You really give an eloquent argument!! Almost incontrovertible!! LoL.
In the future, I suggest you live your prejudices and biases at home, just so you can interpret your surroundings accordingly. And remember, the American culture end at its borders.
@@chesarosanroman499 if you say so champ
love your vids bro you funny af love from Seattle!
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Uds son un cartel luminoso, vestidos diferente a la gente con ropa de apariencia cara , hablan en ingles , son billetes caminando.Se encuentran con un grupo donde algunos estan tomados y se niegan a interactuar con ellos, ño mas seguro es qué reciban insultos, es logico lo q paso no lo correcto, pero los van a insultar con lo que pueden y lo que mas les moleste a-uds . Tomaron todas malas decisiones.
You the Man 🫵😊
Thanks for sharing
God Blessings ☝️😇
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Ni siquiera te insultaron por que odian a los negros solo llamaron la atencion para salir en el video. Aca te van a insultar para llamar la atencion pero en realidad no existe un motivo por el que odiar a los de color... al contrario en Argentina se tiene como talentoso, inteligente y habilidoso a las personas de tu color ya que consumimos mucho las peliculas deportes y son los que mas resaltan y hasta generan muchos fanaticos. En Argentina muchos quisieran ser de tu raza ya que los vemos como modelos en muchas areas.
The police was right around the corner 👍🏿
lol just so you know the USA is probably on the lower end of racism. the microagressions and systemic issues around the world imbecause of their race is surprisingly higher than USA
Tell that to the millions of black people racial profiles everyday for no reason
Brother, in Argentina we are all brothers and we don't care about color or anything like that, but I'll tell you something, brother, as an Argentine, never greet another Argentine's wife, I saw you do it in In the minute 12:17 I don't know how things are in the United States but here you can't be smart with someone else's wife and flirt, that place where you were is one of the brave fans, you could have been hurt,It's gangster land where you were, they already knew that you were there because the person who took you told them that some men from the US were in the place, they know who comes in and who goes out.
@@Rabsaris_rahaglam_colrman whatever u say champ
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Hit me on instagram bro let’s do it
@@LORDWILLIAMSON_ just sent a message.
Cómo andas... No sé inglés. No pude entender lo que decías pero miro tus videos igual jajaja... Idiotas como ese q te grito negro existen en todas partes lentamente. Y el negro acá se usa de muchas formar diferentes es de explicar. Y espero q sigas disfrutando de argentina. Tenés q conocer la Patagonia. O la provincia de Salta. Mendoza tienen mucho vino jajaja.
Doesn’t make it okay.
@@BenevolentDictator13 he is not saying its ok, he is just explaining that "negro" in spanish doenst always mean the same as in english, sometimes "negro" in spanish means "homie"
@@MelaniAlarcon call a black person a negro and don’t be surprised by the consequences. Latino people who use that word as endearment are ignorant buffoons.
@@BenevolentDictator13 we latinos dont share the same culture as you, because, at least in southamerica, negro doesnt mean something bad at all, also, is racist to relate it to something discriminative. Ignorant buffoons are the ones who think negro is bad, when its only a word, here means "friend" even. Your country are the buffons who relate it to something bad
@@MelaniAlarcon you clearly lack reading comprehension. You are barely latino yourself. You’re a mix of german and italian descent. You might as well be european. You are ignorant considering you don’t know american history and the usage of the word. Please travel out of your small bubble of a country and actually learn some history. This is sad that you have such opinions on a country you’ve never been to nor know the history about
i dont wanna be classist😭 but those guys probabbly knew you two were foreigners and wanted to rob you. since they saw that you didn't want to get close to them, they took it badly and then they insulted you. In that place you have to be really cafeful, even four us, people from Buenos Aires, "La Boca" is dangerous. so if you're not from here, is even worst. doesn't matter your skin color. but yeah like u said, racists are everywhere.
Yea i lived here for a while. And while i agree they were just uneducated a/holes. Their feels def were hurt because we didn’t want to hang. They didn’t want to rob us tho.. because mannnn they could have done it with ease lmao