I don't have clamp style sharpening system. I've heard many others say as you stated - don't take off & start reprofiling every knife you own. People report back later on & say I removed way too much metal when I started sharpening knives. I try to keep my knives touched up with a ceramic rod & strop as much as I can. When I feel I've gone about far as I can I will have the knife done on a system for me. Knife Krazy did me a nice job on a hard D2 steel blade that I couldn't begin to touch with my Sharp Maker. I stay conservative as long as I can to save the blade.
So, to recap : Don't cut the kangaroo, unicorn horns are surprisingly affordable, say "Grindy Grindy Grindy" while sharpening, and cutting paper is fun. Hootenanny! Fun video.
BirdShot IV Hey guys. I have the basic kme system with the four diamond stones and I also bought two lapping films. I've been using a light weight oil to treat the stones and films. I've seen some use water or water with some dishwashing liquid, and others just sharpen dry. What do you recommend for best results? Thanks so much, love your videos!
Thanks for teaching me how to sharpen! Forming the burr with your coarsest stone has to be the most important lesson to learn. After that, I like to think of it as each successively finer grit it just removing the scratches from the previous grit.
BirdShots, love your vids, just found your channel a few days ago. The husband wife perspective is sorely needed in this community! I've been sharpening knives for many years, but only as a garage level by taking steel to stone rather than the other way round. I would like to see you guys do a we didn't pick this because... and we nearly picked this, but settled on the KME for this reason kind of video. There are many sharpeners that are similar to the KME so what tilted the scales fully in the KME's favor kind of stuff.
How thick of knife blade will the clamp accept?A hollow grind blade worrys me fitting in the jaws also. What do you think?I want one of these sharpeners.Thanks Enjoy your videos
I would like to invest in this system. I am currently using a lansky, which does work, just not the easiest to work with. I find it hard to justify it in my mind, the money and other knives I could buy with it. I farm for a living and hard use my knives. Very rarely do I get a polished edge. On my non work knives it would be nice.
Some people have stated that when the diamond stones are new, they can leave behind some diamonds in the dust that collects between your blade and the stone carrier, resulting in scratched blades since they get dragged across the blade when you're making your strokes. Have you found this to be true, and if so, how do you avoid it happening? Thanks!
Just sharpened my first knife with the kit I've always been a belt sharpener. I sharpen 80, 220, 400, 600, 1000, 1500, 5000 grit and then a coarse compound on a leather belt, maybe also a fine compound on a leather belt to finish and polish after removing burr. The 6 lapping stones really didn't seem like they were polishing that well, I was using the honing oil on the lapping stones with the kit. Just wondering do u use the oil on the lapping stones and how many passes do you use with the lapping stones?
Since watching your videos on the KME system, I have seriously considered purchasing one. I was wondering if either of you have had trouble clamping full flat grind knives with the KME? From all of the videos and reviews I have watched on youtube there does not seem to be any issues with full flat grind knives, but I just wanted to make sure before buying the KME system. I am currently using the Lansky system. Although it is a fairly good system, there are several limitations with it. One of these limitations is with clamping FFG blades. The clamp on the Lansky system does not make full contact with the blade. This causes the blade to rock up and down when sharpening. Does the KME system hold FFG knives securely? Thank you both very much for your help! I greatly enjoy watching your channel. Keep up the good work!
im buying this tomorrow, upgrading from lansky. ive been sharpening so many of my knives and my friends and i want a system that is more precise and nicer. im getting somewhat mixed results with lansky, most when i reprofile a knife i find after i go through to the end i get the horrible realization that i have an imperfection after checking it on paper...there is nothing worse than spending an hour sharpening a knife and not having it perfect! i can't help but think its because of the lansky...im doing everything right i think...im hoping the kme will give me the results i want! good video btw i will be watching it again after i get it
I hope you still read these ! I have a KME I get a full even burr on both sides of the knife using my extra course stone . Then I proceed to use my course stone then fine extra fine removing scratches of previous stones with my KME basic kit . Then I lightly removed the burr and it would barley cut anything ? This keeps happening which is confusing because after my burr I form with my extra course stone I check for sharpeness and it shaved my hair like butter . Any recommendations?? Thanks ! I also use a strop and used a higher angle to try removing burr no results
form a strong burr on one side only, remove and do the same thing to the other side. If you have formed a burr throughout the entire edge, you have apexed the edge and it will be sharp. It sounds like you may be leaving some of that burr on one side. The edge will act super dull if you do so
Great videos guys as usual! I just ordered the system thanks to guys convincing me. My question is that they have a few emulsion's starting at 4 micron to .5 micron. Do I have start at the 4 micron or can just order the .5 micron with the strop?
I would love to see some new sharpening videos. For example knives that gave you trouble and what you learned from them or different steel types. I use the edge pro but these sharpening videos are helpful no matter what system you use. Again love your videos!
👍's up and enjoyed as all ways. I took the slide on mine that does your degrees and took off about a 1/16 off. That way it sets further down and take the comers off. You can then get down to about 13 degrees with out flipping it up side down. I also fix mind where it does not move then you stay pretty much the same from tip to hilt. Hope all have a blessed day.
How do you feel about the Lansky clamp sharpener system? Trying to find a cheap way to enter the sharpening game. Also, now need to be able to sharpen S110V at some point.
for the first sharpening system, go with diamond stones. sometimes i use lansky clamp and DMT stones (you can buy seperate parts of most systems, including cheap chinese alternatives, and combine all into one). when i use lansky clamp, i rig the stone into vise, and use it as whet stone, much easier to use. and get few coarse stones, factory grinds suck, even on brand knives, and needs reprofiling. but have in mind, after sharpening, you have to maintain (touch up) the edge as long as you can without sharpening again (sharpmaker, car door glass, whatever), because each time you clamp the blade, the angles will be different, and you'll have to remove more metal... those angles depends on positioning of the clamp on the blade, force that was used to tighten it, presure on the stones, so it's not very precise
Have you had any problems with fine scratches on the face of the knives (hairline scratches).? I sharpened lots of knives and still get them.. Mostly on the beast and the 100. I'm sure you got them as well but when did they disappeared for you ?
+BirdShot IV here is an image of what I'm talking about. This is an example of the scratches left by the beast two days ago on a beater knife: s4.postimg.org/ln2uzz7jx/image.jpg I'm posting this image because the really thin scratches left by the 100 stone are less noticeable. Sorry for the bad quality image but these scratches are more visible when artificial light reflect in different angles.
Good tips, reprofiling and edge is tedious. I have an older Wicked Edge system. I see that they have improved the newer WE system for smaller knives. On my older system its hard to hit the angle in some instances and the upgrade is pricy enough that I'm looking at other set-ups.
+BirdShot IV the newer system would be fine but my older model has some issues... And the company definitely does NOT offer discounted upgrades for the people that got them to the dance.
Merry Christmas from Alaska =) Awesome super informative video , ty ! I just ordered the KME basic kit from Amazon , comes with the 140 , 300 , 600 and 1500 stones.. My question is this , I am a hard-core prepper , and I love to have back ups of my back ups , so I was wondering about the longevity and lifespan of these stones , and should I order a couple more sets for storage ? I'm expecting only moderate use on my KME system , as I only have three knives ( 2 benchmades and a wusthof ) and I also use Japanese whetstones. So does anyone have experience with these KME stones lasting a year , 3 years , 5 years etc.. with moderate to low use ? Thank you so much for any help =) 19 hours ago
thank you! haha we've been watching a TV show lately, "Buying Alaska" and it's super fun lol. For folding knives, the diamond stones will practically last forever, unless you want spares in case of loss or damage
You said that the kangaroo strop leather comes from the pouch, but when I have done a search for kangaroo leather fer a strop it keeps showing me kangaroo tail. It says it's the toughest part.
Who is Burrburr and where do I find him? Same for knife crazy? I wish when you mention a channel you would list it in the description, it would make it a lot easier..
I need help. When i marker the edge and find the angle as i bring the stone over the edge it removes the sharpie from the entire edge except for the tip. Its like the tip is a different angle. What do i do? Any help would be appreciated. Love the channel. Thanks
I have the exact same problem with my KME. I've also found that it goes too steep at the heel of the edge at the same time. That leaves me with an overly steep and sharpened heel and an untouched tip. I've pretty much had this problem with every knife I've sharpened with the KME from cheap Kershaws to very expensive Spydercos. The only thing that has helped has been to adjust the blade to the center of the sharpening range and only go a few inches to either side of that center. It's more trouble than I want to deal with. You left this comment 4 months ago, have you found any resolutions?
Good one guys! How does the clamp handle full flat grind knives without a flat area? Does it still hold the knife centered as it relates to the guide rod? So that you're even when you change sides. I'm either going to get the KME or the Hapstone sharpener pro .
The problem I found with clamp systems; if the main blade grind is not true on both sides, it will translate into the bevel size. One bevel size will appear larger than the other. This really starts to show the more acute your angle. Clamp systems like lansky, I would switch angle from side to side. Say 18 deg on one side, 22 on the other, to compensate. I'd be interested in hearing if you guys had this problem, and what you did to fix it.
generically speaking, when I have an uneven grind I will monitor my time spent on each side to even it out. Flipping back and forth watching and adjusting
What are your thoughts on the ganzo touch pro ultra/steel? Looks very similar to an Edgepro Apex. I wan't a good consistent angle sharpener but can't afford something better.
very 101. hollow grind will always be sharpest, i like them but it is all about what work you are doing, i am learning to use their convex rod foe knives that are very pricey, ,everybody know about the bird lol. v shaped knives are just pretty but will not cut as well as a convex edge, so easy, get old knives in thrift and you will learn on u tube in no time. on the push stroke your hand naturaly curves and makes your flat grind into a convex and stropping will keep it true for quite a while in the field, in time you have to go back to a descent Japaneses water stones and sharpen. no need to re profile after the first con vexing, you are just re sharpening , and removing micro chips or dings of metal that rolled over . . but i like the idea of a precise convex system for more an expensive good looking gentle persons folders. hand convexing lay knive down on stone on the beginning push toward end 1l3rd of stone you let your hand slightly turn in to knife to part right before apex , this will start your knife in convexing process , dooent happen right away it takes time b/c you are not an expert like virtuovoice, on utube, he teaches as much as he can, you can learn a lot from him.
probably not as important for the kme crew as the free hand crew but making sure the knife is flat on the stone and not just riding the shoulder is a common mistake I see a lot. great vid :-)
I know a bit about both. I personally would say the wicked edge is just as good as this, but for twice the price. It is preference to an extent though, and you can get a hell of an edge from either. This one is a better deal though imo
OK thanks so much for the tips....I also seen knife Krazy draw a line from tip to end of blade and center on that line next time it happens I will try and send you a picture of it. I also have trouble with some blade sliding in jaws no matter how tight they are. DeanO used to use hockey tape do you have any other suggestions
I have noticed when that happened to me I was applying to much pressure on the stone. If I am doing things correctly I don't even need to clamp it done super hard, just snug.
You guys have introduced me into the world of knives. I never saw the appeal of knives but now I can't get enough of them. My knowledge of knives is still very basic. I was wondering how you came to the decision on the KME vs other sharpening setups. I am looking to sharpen my own knives but would like something that can sharpen a pocket knife to a chef's knife. If you have any input to direct me towards a certain sharpening system I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
Thank you! The KME will do a variety of sizes and styles, no problem there. We went with this one because it accomplished everything I wanted in a fixed system yet was less expensive and had tons of accessories. Talking with the people at KME sealed the deal, great customer service
man i was about to pull the trigger on the blade hq natural g10 spyderco military but i NEED this. i do not have a knife sharpening system. i just buy a new knife lol. this things going on the credit card by the end of the month. gotta check your other vids on which strop to get as well.
I see it as another way to enjoy the knife collection. I'm just getting the hang of things. I wish the kit still came with the 4 micron. But just like anything else, I figure I should be able to drive the wheels off of this thing before I move into the stropping. I might even do a 100 first as I've got an M390 than came with almost a chisel grind. Oh, and the JewelStik 1-2-3 Diamond Hone is another must-have. _Thanks Kizer._
great video guys.. but if all fails. just call ron..lol do you still do the sharpie with all stones even with the stone thickness compensator?? I used to..but have since eliminated that step. also have you tried using the translucent and surgical black arkansas stones after the 1500 grit diamonds?? I have found them to leave a virtual mirror finish..granted I will spend extra time refining pattern with the surgical black. the no up stroke comment wad funny..been there..I also just use down strokes with the lapping films..just need reminding myself it's not a stone in the carriage..old habits are hard to break..lol again great video.. the Lil roo cut out was cute..lol
BirdShot IV, I invested in one the other day and got one for my birthday, I'm a kid and wanted a KME instead of an Xbox or something. anyways, I have a question. if I have a lot of sharpening knowledge and experience, would I be safe reprofiling some knives? also, how long does it take for KME and other stuff take to ship?
Holy Molly, my wife got me the KME for $300 smackers. Great wife. I opened it on valentines day, today. Dang, it took a minute or so to learn. My Hinderer is screaming sharp now. The hair on arm jumps off before the blade gets there. This is, for me, the best system for the bucks..Thx for the vids...Now I am starting her damascus kitchen blades...oh ya...
Guys I’m really starting to love the fatback it’s like something about it keeps calling my name. Maybe I can convince y’all to sell me y’all’s so I will always keep it lol.
That's obviously a great set-up you have there. I have heard that Ganzo is going to sell a sharpening system. Have you any knowledge of that? Frankie what did you do to your RF paw? : )
I just went and looked at the Ganzo sharpener. I have had an identical unit for 8 months or so. Wore out the coarse stone repairing kitchen knives for my brother and some other people. You can get diamond stones now on Amazon for $6 each. They work pretty good. A learning curve is involved but it works pretty good and it is all metal. Thank you for the video, I learned some things today
the platform appealed to me, the ergonomic design along with a good list of accessories. I like the Ken Schwartz products available for the KME, very high quality. In the end it was the customer service that sold me.
BirdShot IV Harbor Freight then a Ganzo!! Won't risk the ZT for a while until I am confident in my ability. I did get a kangaroo strop a 4 micron CBM from Ron's wife! I even offered to pick it up as I live in NJ as well.
I don't have clamp style sharpening system. I've heard many others say as you stated - don't take off & start reprofiling every knife you own. People report back later on & say I removed way too much metal when I started sharpening knives. I try to keep my knives touched up with a ceramic rod & strop as much as I can. When I feel I've gone about far as I can I will have the knife done on a system for me. Knife Krazy did me a nice job on a hard D2 steel blade that I couldn't begin to touch with my Sharp Maker. I stay conservative as long as I can to save the blade.
good points and i agree!
You can buy hones for them
So, to recap : Don't cut the kangaroo, unicorn horns are surprisingly affordable, say "Grindy Grindy Grindy" while sharpening, and cutting paper is fun. Hootenanny! Fun video.
you got it!!
BirdShot IV Hey guys. I have the basic kme system with the four diamond stones and I also bought two lapping films. I've been using a light weight oil to treat the stones and films. I've seen some use water or water with some dishwashing liquid, and others just sharpen dry. What do you recommend for best results? Thanks so much, love your videos!
I've found sharpening dry or with dawn and water yields best results.
On the KME, I learned to slow down when near the tip of the knife, and go more carefully.
Another tip, while your sharpening, don't have someone in the background cutting paper. It can be quite distracting.☺
Thanks for teaching me how to sharpen! Forming the burr with your coarsest stone has to be the most important lesson to learn. After that, I like to think of it as each successively finer grit it just removing the scratches from the previous grit.
its exactly that!
BirdShots, love your vids, just found your channel a few days ago. The husband wife perspective is sorely needed in this community! I've been sharpening knives for many years, but only as a garage level by taking steel to stone rather than the other way round. I would like to see you guys do a we didn't pick this because... and we nearly picked this, but settled on the KME for this reason kind of video. There are many sharpeners that are similar to the KME so what tilted the scales fully in the KME's favor kind of stuff.
very good idea! I can tell you it would get just as many negative comments as positive lol. Thank you for the feedback!
How thick of knife blade will the clamp accept?A hollow grind blade worrys me fitting in the jaws also.
What do you think?I want one of these sharpeners.Thanks
Enjoy your videos
I would like to invest in this system. I am currently using a lansky, which does work, just not the easiest to work with. I find it hard to justify it in my mind, the money and other knives I could buy with it. I farm for a living and hard use my knives. Very rarely do I get a polished edge. On my non work knives it would be nice.
Some people have stated that when the diamond stones are new, they can leave behind some diamonds in the dust that collects between your blade and the stone carrier, resulting in scratched blades since they get dragged across the blade when you're making your strokes. Have you found this to be true, and if so, how do you avoid it happening?
Thanks!
Just sharpened my first knife with the kit I've always been a belt sharpener. I sharpen 80, 220, 400, 600, 1000, 1500, 5000 grit and then a coarse compound on a leather belt, maybe also a fine compound on a leather belt to finish and polish after removing burr. The 6 lapping stones really didn't seem like they were polishing that well, I was using the honing oil on the lapping stones with the kit. Just wondering do u use the oil on the lapping stones and how many passes do you use with the lapping stones?
I really like the zoomed in perspective it's nice to see angles and edges like that
we agree, more to come
Since watching your videos on the KME system, I have seriously considered purchasing one. I was wondering if either of you have had trouble clamping full flat grind knives with the KME? From all of the videos and reviews I have watched on youtube there does not seem to be any issues with full flat grind knives, but I just wanted to make sure before buying the KME system. I am currently using the Lansky system. Although it is a fairly good system, there are several limitations with it. One of these limitations is with clamping FFG blades. The clamp on the Lansky system does not make full contact with the blade. This causes the blade to rock up and down when sharpening. Does the KME system hold FFG knives securely? Thank you both very much for your help! I greatly enjoy watching your channel. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Brandon! The KME adapts/holds to FFG knives perfectly, no issues.
Do you need to get a burr on your last grit?
im buying this tomorrow, upgrading from lansky. ive been sharpening so many of my knives and my friends and i want a system that is more precise and nicer. im getting somewhat mixed results with lansky, most when i reprofile a knife i find after i go through to the end i get the horrible realization that i have an imperfection after checking it on paper...there is nothing worse than spending an hour sharpening a knife and not having it perfect! i can't help but think its because of the lansky...im doing everything right i think...im hoping the kme will give me the results i want! good video btw i will be watching it again after i get it
haha yes, you will want to check and recheck your work. Thank you for watching!
Great video. We Aussies might say you two have a 'roo loose in the top paddock!'
After all this time and your experience, do you use the diamond stones dry, or oiled? And how do you effectively clean them afterwards?
Notice this video and thread has been around such a long time, maybe your not posting any longer? Dry, water, honing oil?
hello guy i'm getting a KME sharpener soon can i use oil on the diamond stones or water thank you
either one or dry
I hope you still read these !
I have a KME I get a full even burr on both sides of the knife using my extra course stone .
Then I proceed to use my course stone then fine extra fine removing scratches of previous stones with my KME basic kit .
Then I lightly removed the burr and it would barley cut anything ? This keeps happening which is confusing because after my burr I form with my extra course stone I check for sharpeness and it shaved my hair like butter .
Any recommendations??
Thanks !
I also use a strop and used a higher angle to try removing burr no results
form a strong burr on one side only, remove and do the same thing to the other side. If you have formed a burr throughout the entire edge, you have apexed the edge and it will be sharp. It sounds like you may be leaving some of that burr on one side. The edge will act super dull if you do so
Great videos guys as usual! I just ordered the system thanks to guys convincing me. My question is that they have a few emulsion's starting at 4 micron to .5 micron. Do I have start at the 4 micron or can just order the .5 micron with the strop?
I would love to see some new sharpening videos. For example knives that gave you trouble and what you learned from them or different steel types. I use the edge pro but these sharpening videos are helpful no matter what system you use. Again love your videos!
thanks for the kind words!
Great knowledge.... I have learned a lot about knife sharpening from your channel!
thank you for the feedback!
TrailRecon nice, I didn't know you had a kme!
👍's up and enjoyed as all ways. I took the slide on mine that does your degrees and took off about a 1/16 off. That way it sets further down and take the comers off. You can then get down to about 13 degrees with out flipping it up side down. I also fix mind where it does not move then you stay pretty much the same from tip to hilt. Hope all have a blessed day.
good stuff Randy, thank you!
Get an Edgepro. No blade clamp so no readjusting, and if you add a drill stop collar and you no longer need to sharpie between stones.
How is the kme with small knives such as zt 0450, pm3, swiss army knife and mini grip?
How do you feel about the Lansky clamp sharpener system? Trying to find a cheap way to enter the sharpening game. Also, now need to be able to sharpen S110V at some point.
I own the lansky and like it, and you can get strops and diamond stones for it.
for the first sharpening system, go with diamond stones. sometimes i use lansky clamp and DMT stones (you can buy seperate parts of most systems, including cheap chinese alternatives, and combine all into one). when i use lansky clamp, i rig the stone into vise, and use it as whet stone, much easier to use. and get few coarse stones, factory grinds suck, even on brand knives, and needs reprofiling. but have in mind, after sharpening, you have to maintain (touch up) the edge as long as you can without sharpening again (sharpmaker, car door glass, whatever), because each time you clamp the blade, the angles will be different, and you'll have to remove more metal... those angles depends on positioning of the clamp on the blade, force that was used to tighten it, presure on the stones, so it's not very precise
I am getting that kit lansky are good from what I have heard
+Nanchi I got it off Amazon as they had a it at the best price. Used it a couple times and I've been happy with it.
+Nanchi I got it off Amazon as they had a it at the best price. Used it a couple times and I've been happy with it.
Have you had any problems with fine scratches on the face of the knives (hairline scratches).? I sharpened lots of knives and still get them.. Mostly on the beast and the 100. I'm sure you got them as well but when did they disappeared for you ?
do you mean on the primary going or the bevel?
+BirdShot IV here is an image of what I'm talking about. This is an example of the scratches left by the beast two days ago on a beater knife: s4.postimg.org/ln2uzz7jx/image.jpg I'm posting this image because the really thin scratches left by the 100 stone are less noticeable. Sorry for the bad quality image but these scratches are more visible when artificial light reflect in different angles.
try it after the 1500 diamond and the hard translucent and let me know how you like the results..to me leaves a beautiful refined and "polished" edge.
thats where I left off for a long time, its a great looking finished edge
Indeed....I love the Arkansas stones..granted requires more work on some higher end steels but results justify time spent
yes usually in center of blade and sometimes a little off depending on blade shape
Good tips, reprofiling and edge is tedious.
I have an older Wicked Edge system. I see that they have improved the newer WE system for smaller knives. On my older system its hard to hit the angle in some instances and the upgrade is pricy enough that I'm looking at other set-ups.
interesting, I almost went with the WE before I learned of this setup
+BirdShot IV the newer system would be fine but my older model has some issues... And the company definitely does NOT offer discounted upgrades for the people that got them to the dance.
Merry Christmas from Alaska =) Awesome super informative video , ty ! I just ordered the KME basic kit from Amazon , comes with the 140 , 300 , 600 and 1500 stones.. My question is this , I am a hard-core prepper , and I love to have back ups of my back ups , so I was wondering about the longevity and lifespan of these stones , and should I order a couple more sets for storage ? I'm expecting only moderate use on my KME system , as I only have three knives ( 2 benchmades and a wusthof ) and I also use Japanese whetstones. So does anyone have experience with these KME stones lasting a year , 3 years , 5 years etc.. with moderate to low use ? Thank you so much for any help =)
19 hours ago
thank you! haha we've been watching a TV show lately, "Buying Alaska" and it's super fun lol.
For folding knives, the diamond stones will practically last forever, unless you want spares in case of loss or damage
I subscribed because you guys are having so much fun!
we really appreciate that!
SHITTY REVIEW-WHAT IS THE NOISE IN THE BACKGROUND????
You said that the kangaroo strop leather comes from the pouch, but when I have done a search for kangaroo leather fer a strop it keeps showing me kangaroo tail. It says it's the toughest part.
lol sorry, I think we were just joking. The tail though? Interesting!
Who is Burrburr and where do I find him? Same for knife crazy? I wish when you mention a channel you would list it in the description, it would make it a lot easier..
lol, the Burr Bird
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I need help. When i marker the edge and find the angle as i bring the stone over the edge it removes the sharpie from the entire edge except for the tip. Its like the tip is a different angle. What do i do? Any help would be appreciated. Love the channel. Thanks
I have the exact same problem with my KME. I've also found that it goes too steep at the heel of the edge at the same time. That leaves me with an overly steep and sharpened heel and an untouched tip. I've pretty much had this problem with every knife I've sharpened with the KME from cheap Kershaws to very expensive Spydercos. The only thing that has helped has been to adjust the blade to the center of the sharpening range and only go a few inches to either side of that center. It's more trouble than I want to deal with. You left this comment 4 months ago, have you found any resolutions?
Good one guys! How does the clamp handle full flat grind knives without a flat area? Does it still hold the knife centered as it relates to the guide rod? So that you're even when you change sides. I'm either going to get the KME or the Hapstone sharpener pro .
yes, still clamps it flat. As long as you let the stones do the work there is never an issue
The problem I found with clamp systems; if the main blade grind is not true on both sides, it will translate into the bevel size. One bevel size will appear larger than the other. This really starts to show the more acute your angle.
Clamp systems like lansky, I would switch angle from side to side. Say 18 deg on one side, 22 on the other, to compensate. I'd be interested in hearing if you guys had this problem, and what you did to fix it.
generically speaking, when I have an uneven grind I will monitor my time spent on each side to even it out. Flipping back and forth watching and adjusting
Doing that, how are you able to apex though? That is a good idea for a video (wink wink arm nudge)
if I read this again, I could see that you could potentially be maintaining inconsistency. Factory bevels are almost never even.
I want the kme so badly. I suck at my stones and make my own knives, so I really need to get this when I can afford it
Say, did you ever tackle the the WE 606 on the KME? I'd _love_ to see somebody explain how they gave the tip of that thing a mirror polish.
What are your thoughts on the ganzo touch pro ultra/steel? Looks very similar to an Edgepro Apex. I wan't a good consistent angle sharpener but can't afford something better.
I noticed the stones turned black - i assume from the sharpee and steel grindings, Do they need to be cleaned and how? Good vid! Frankie is funny.
sharpie and metal shavings, or slurry. I simply rinse mine and clean by hand
IS there a grit conversion chart for those stones? Because if a 140 grit stone is too fine to reprofile a blade something isn't quite right.
its not that its too fine, but you will be spending longer than you should and putting extra wear on the 140. I'm talking big re-profiling jobs
very 101. hollow grind will always be sharpest, i like them but it is all about what work you are doing, i am learning to use their convex rod foe knives that are very pricey, ,everybody know about the bird lol. v shaped knives are just pretty but will not cut as well as a convex edge, so easy, get old knives in thrift and you will learn on u tube in no time. on the push stroke your hand naturaly curves and makes your flat grind into a convex and stropping will keep it true for quite a while in the field, in time you have to go back to a descent Japaneses water stones and sharpen. no need to re profile after the first con vexing, you are just re sharpening , and removing micro chips or dings of metal that rolled over . . but i like the idea of a precise convex system for more an expensive good looking gentle persons folders. hand convexing lay knive down on stone on the beginning push toward end 1l3rd of stone you let your hand slightly turn in to knife to part right before apex , this will start your knife in convexing process , dooent happen right away it takes time b/c you are not an expert like virtuovoice, on utube, he teaches as much as he can, you can learn a lot from him.
Fatback has the shallowest angle?
What angle would you say it is?
Thanks!!!
Sorry, I totally forget lol. It might be in that review of the Fatback itself
probably not as important for the kme crew as the free hand crew but making sure the knife is flat on the stone and not just riding the shoulder is a common mistake I see a lot. great vid
:-)
why we like the fixed aspect!
What stone would you use on cpm 20cv specifically a zt 0462
It depends on the angle you start with, how dull and/or if you are re-profiling. I often start with the 100 or 140 in general though
@@BirdShotIV thanks for the advice and the great content on your channel
I just use my Lansky Turnbox for my knives. Works pretty good
Do you know anything about the wicked edge system & if you do how would you compare them?
I know a bit about both. I personally would say the wicked edge is just as good as this, but for twice the price. It is preference to an extent though, and you can get a hell of an edge from either. This one is a better deal though imo
OK thanks so much for the tips....I also seen knife Krazy draw a line from tip to end of blade and center on that line next time it happens I will try and send you a picture of it. I also have trouble with some blade sliding in jaws no matter how tight they are. DeanO used to use hockey tape do you have any other suggestions
I have noticed when that happened to me I was applying to much pressure on the stone. If I am doing things correctly I don't even need to clamp it done super hard, just snug.
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You guys have introduced me into the world of knives. I never saw the appeal of knives but now I can't get enough of them. My knowledge of knives is still very basic. I was wondering how you came to the decision on the KME vs other sharpening setups. I am looking to sharpen my own knives but would like something that can sharpen a pocket knife to a chef's knife. If you have any input to direct me towards a certain sharpening system I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
Thank you! The KME will do a variety of sizes and styles, no problem there. We went with this one because it accomplished everything I wanted in a fixed system yet was less expensive and had tons of accessories. Talking with the people at KME sealed the deal, great customer service
Talk about the thickness compensator
Stropping? Between sharpings?
absolutely!
have trouble with bevel on end of knife being wider than original bevel any suggestions
are you clamping in a central location? The position that will average the most uniform degree of change, although typically very slight.
the other thing to consider, the thickness of the tip vs the belly. The blade steel at the tip will be thicker than the actual belly
cool vid. as always guys! Have you tried the convexing guide rod yet?
next up!
What knife was that one that was clamped down on the sharpeing set up
Spyderco Pacific Salt In H1, just gave it away for a Christmas present, he loved it! -Frankie
how do you sharpen a knife that doesn't have flats? like where it won't stay on the clamp?
it will adjust to a full flat ground blade perfectly, it was designed with that adaptability.
BirdShot IV ok awesome. thank you. ill definitely be buying one soon. I feel like its one of the best sharpening systems out there
this is a great video, the system looks and performs perfectly fine
thanks man, we love it
OK thanks a bunch and you are most likely right because I do catch myself using to much pressure and not letting the stone do the work
It still happens to me occasionally
Do not Sharpen to an apex with 50-100 grit. Apex with 200-400 diamonds. Whetstones are different.
man i was about to pull the trigger on the blade hq natural g10 spyderco military but i NEED this. i do not have a knife sharpening system. i just buy a new knife lol. this things going on the credit card by the end of the month.
gotta check your other vids on which strop to get as well.
get the KME first, good choice. One strop to start with is fine, with the 4 micron emulsion
I see it as another way to enjoy the knife collection. I'm just getting the hang of things. I wish the kit still came with the 4 micron. But just like anything else, I figure I should be able to drive the wheels off of this thing before I move into the stropping. I might even do a 100 first as I've got an M390 than came with almost a chisel grind. Oh, and the JewelStik 1-2-3 Diamond Hone is another must-have. _Thanks Kizer._
Great tips!! Saving up for the KME
you will like it!
great video guys..
but if all fails. just call ron..lol
do you still do the sharpie with all stones even with the stone thickness compensator?? I used to..but have since eliminated that step.
also have you tried using the translucent and surgical black arkansas stones after the 1500 grit diamonds?? I have found them to leave a virtual mirror finish..granted I will spend extra time refining pattern with the surgical black.
the no up stroke comment wad funny..been there..I also just use down strokes with the lapping films..just need reminding myself it's not a stone in the carriage..old habits are hard to break..lol
again great video..
the Lil roo cut out was cute..lol
never tried the black arkansas
Could you tell me how to fix a bent blade tip or can you?
in general id say its ruined
What is the name of the producing company
K.M.E حمود العامر
Knives are cool but if you can't keep them sharp, they are worthless.
do you guys have a discount code for KME?
we do not, sorry
Need more of.this
I call sharp knifes portable paper shredders
Love to Love my Hootenanny!!!
Looks like I'm going to get me a KME 😄
Cheers
Blazin'Blades
solid investment!
BirdShot IV, I invested in one the other day and got one for my birthday, I'm a kid and wanted a KME instead of an Xbox or something. anyways, I have a question. if I have a lot of sharpening knowledge and experience, would I be safe reprofiling some knives? also, how long does it take for KME and other stuff take to ship?
also, I got a beast too, so I think I'm safe reprofiling
Holy Molly, my wife got me the KME for $300 smackers. Great wife. I opened it on valentines day, today. Dang, it took a minute or so to learn. My Hinderer is screaming sharp now. The hair on arm jumps off before the blade gets there. This is, for me, the best system for the bucks..Thx for the vids...Now I am starting her damascus kitchen blades...oh ya...
lol you went straight to the Hinderer? awesome
She's fun!
Guys I’m really starting to love the fatback it’s like something about it keeps calling my name. Maybe I can convince y’all to sell me y’all’s so I will always keep it lol.
lol you need to start a confetti company
haha right! thanks for watching!
I really don't need to spend the money but I think I need this lol.
That's obviously a great set-up you have there. I have heard that Ganzo is going to sell a sharpening system. Have you any knowledge of that? Frankie what did you do to your RF paw? : )
its listed on the site but haven't heard anything else. Frankie needs to stop getting into fights in the frozen food isle...
BirdShot IV I prefer the snack food isle for fisticuffs. LOL
I just went and looked at the Ganzo sharpener. I have had an identical unit for 8 months or so. Wore out the coarse stone repairing kitchen knives for my brother and some other people. You can get diamond stones now on Amazon for $6 each. They work pretty good. A learning curve is involved but it works pretty good and it is all metal. Thank you for the video, I learned some things today
Great vid and also have you ever used the Lansky guided sharpener.
Lol Did I miss something about the "Grindy- Grindy-Grindy!"?
its the noise frankie makes when sharpening lol
Great advice!
thanks for watching!
Great videos. I just subbed you guys. My KME should be arriving this Wednesday.
Clem Fandango I'm getting one for my birthday and I'm SO EXCITED
update: purchased it that night! I'm so pumped!
yes he does and yes they are
Great video..
thank you!
Why the KME instead of, for example, Lansky?
the platform appealed to me, the ergonomic design along with a good list of accessories. I like the Ken Schwartz products available for the KME, very high quality. In the end it was the customer service that sold me.
BirdShot IV
Wow, thanks a lot for the explanation!
Thumbs up for the kangaroo! :D
random find!
Kme coming tomorrow
awesome! whats the first knife?
BirdShot IV
Harbor Freight then a Ganzo!!
Won't risk the ZT for a while until I am confident in my ability.
I did get a kangaroo strop a 4 micron CBM from Ron's wife!
I even offered to pick it up as I live in NJ as well.
good choices!!
good tips guys....cut my teeth on DeanO......
the man knows how to sharpen an edge! fun to watch as well
Hootenanny!
where can i find A Wife like this.
Trying to concentrate on what you're saying and all i can hear is that parrot cutting paper.
Knifekrazy, you are a has-been! buddy!
Nice info.
thanks man!
lol thats a lot of cut paper
and she just walks away lol