RUSSIA vs USA Knife Sharpener? TSPROF vs Lansky, Wicked Edge, KME, Tormek T-8, Work Sharp Ken Onion
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- Sharpeners tested: TORMEK T-8, TSPROF, Wicked Edge, KME, Lansky, Warthog, Speedy Sharp, Work Sharp Ken Onion, Smith’s. All of the knife sharpeners demonstrated for set up and use, sharpening performance, and blade edge durability. Also, two of the knife sharpeners used to sharpen a knife built from scrap metal. I purchased all of the sharpeners to ensure unbiased results. So, thank you for supporting the channel.
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"I always purchase the tools with my own money..." so if they suck, he can tell us. That's the beauty of independent testing, folks.
That's a large part of why we respect this testing channel so much.
He isn't paid off to promote certain products. That's the best part as the testing is unbiased.
This couldnt be better said 👍🏼
This is kind of a “no duh” comment..
Yeap
The power of not sponsored
That asmr session caught me off guard. I love the project farm knife making session! Lol.
Appreciate all the work you put into these videos
Did you like the ASMR? I really value everyone's feedback.
No asmr please.
@@ProjectFarm I thought it was a good nod to the Japanese channel that makes knives out of anything and everything
@@ProjectFarm love the videos, not so much the asmr… I prefer the style of video that you have been doing! Keep up the great work
@@ProjectFarm I think Eric was a bit tongue-in-cheek. What makes your videos fun is that you take the subject matter seriously, but not TOO seriously. Also the upbeat and clear presentation and well thought-out tests, of course. Thank you especially for this video because I would have never found out about the Lansky Sharpener without your video. Was going to buy a Knife Sharpening Stone set and free-hand sharpen. And while that's cool, the Lansky is going to take a lot of the guesswork out of the process.
Wow!!! As a knife nerd this was the most complete, comprehensive and precise sharpener test I have ever seen! You covered every aspect of the subject and your methods for comparing the results were excellent! Thank you very much!
Thanks and you are welcome!
There's a 1 million grit stone to sharpen things and there is also that japanese who spends like 8 Hours to sharpen a knife.
He didn't test any of the japanese products, nor spent more than an hour with a knife.
@@outstanding1448 dang I hope he replies
I put myself forward in acknowledgement to the test range.
I have owned and gifted Lansky's in the 1970s. I am a major fan of TSProf (tech studio profiler). I Have many TSProf rigs and I buy Edge Pro Stones diamond matrix full weight stones to use in the tools. I gift sharpening rigs to my kin.
I will not gift the tool without Edge Pro Stones in a TSProf rig.
The mechanics of the TSProfiler are absolute to create sharp perfectly aligned 180 degrees out. a recipe for a true edge refined to fine machining and engineering.
@@Perceptence, I don't know, man, but the one sold by the "sharpeningsupplies" looks legit, although they seem to be the only supplier.
Sharpening japanese knifes, with a professional grit stone, is an Honor, having beneficial effects over the mind, like Discipline.
I started out with a lansky kit about 20 years ago. A few years ago I switched to the KME system. It was a familiar system that was similar enough to the Lansky to be instantly user friendly. But it is much more precise and infinitely more expandable. For personal use I think the KME is about the best balance of ease of use and precision.
WOOOOO BEST PART OF MY SUNDAYS. Honestly this is the certified dad channel
Thank you very much! The positive feedback means a lot to me.
Still looking forward to the paint roller or brush
You are On Top once again! I have been sharpening by hand/stone for 65+ yrs. I also have the Workshop Top line Ken Onion. As well, a similar style I have not used with alingular arm setup. My "go to" is by hand. I just feel more comfortable. I customize blades to knives, for hobby, friends, and a very small few. Thank you as always! EXCELLENT, J
@@ProjectFarm and the negative one? gets ignored? don't misunderstand, I'm a loyal follower
Did u ever test sharpness of surgical scalpels compared to some of your sharpened knife edges
I really appreciated the DIY segment. It was a nice break from the usual format, and reminds me of the old "project farm" days. I'd be up to see more of that!
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@@ProjectFarm u o I’llok ok liu
@@ProjectFarm I dont know if you got my suggestion of condoms. I am really curious to see which one works. I tried one back 25 years ago.
This test had me on edge the whole time. I have a Lansky.
Thanks for sharing!
I use the Lansky as well. It it's exceeds the others by taking out the guess work and being readily available at almost every hunting/ sporting goods store. I've used mine for the last 8 years or so and haven't looked back.
same here, I have a Lansky and I take it with me to work. I work on a tug boat and the knives here get some true abuse. from using the chef knife to scrape old grease from the stove to chipping ice ... I end up using the bench grinder about twice a year to rescue them because someone chopped through bones or stuff I don't even wanna think about. The Lansky brings them back up to fillet cutting performance. I would never bring a more expensive grinding system to this environment.
I saw what you did there with your pun and I'm not disappointed.
Awesome compilation! Loved the extreme magnification, really gives a lot of insight to what a really high quality sharp edge looks like.
One area that could be useful to know as well is how long it took to fully set up and sharpen a blade with each system
Thank you. Thanks for the constructive feedback.
Which part does this occur in video ?
@@cloudsculptor1 The first magnification is at 2:00, but the other ones are shown as well throughout the video
@@ProjectFarm Annnddddd what is the answer.? Give or take.? You don't even have to remember a whole year back.!!!
Suggestion: Wire brushes attachments for angle grinders. Lots of the "niche" angle grinder attachments make HUGE claims and the prices vary drastically, seems right up your ally
Good suggestion , I am sure Todd will figure out how to do accurate scientific tests he always does. its not gonna be straightforward like cutting disks...
I'd love to find one that holds up longer that 15mins. I use them to debark red cedar & for a roughly 8ft x 12in log I go through about 9 wire cup attachments.
Agreed - good suggestion
I'd love a steel wire brush attachment that doesnt make the angle grinder vibrate like crazy!
@@RogerSegerJr I usually use them for rust repair, so wide field of use!
Also, just learned the red cedar dust is toxic (only knew about walnut) what are your experiences? Do you feel the need to use pse?
The ASMR segment made me laugh aggressively. My kids just don’t understand me. Another great video
I was looking for a comment that mentioned this..
Thanks!
It was hilarious
One of us, one of us, one of us.
@@jwalster9412 ⁵⁷68
Very interesting video mate, I've bought several products based on your unbiased testing. For example I bought an Audew portable jump starter, and some liquid wrench penetrating fluid as I needed to remove some very seized engine mount bolts. Thanks so much for taking the time to do these videos, we all appreciate it.
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
Wonderful reviews and just the right amount of information needed to make the best decisions regardless of budget. This was definitely an expensive test to do, and thank you so much for your efforts and saving us all a lot of money . Will always be one of the top channels on any platform! Cheers
Thanks and you are welcome!
Absolutely loved this video. My favorite part is demonstrating the edge stability, something that doesn't get talked about enough. Super informative and very fun to watch!
Thanks for the feedback.
I’ve love my Lansky! Seems like a good future project for you to add the most significant bells and whistles from the “top performers”. to the “best sharpener for the money”! I’d love to see a any improvement to consistency and ease of use. Love your channel, long time viewer.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
I have the non-diamond Lanksy system and it works very well for the money. It's not the fastest and it can have trouble with heavy, small or oddly shaped blades. But for 90% of knives it works great.
@@ProjectFarm have you looked at it used the Spyderco Tri-Angle Sharpmaker? I swear by it 👍
I love my speedy sharp. If I have a lot of knives and axes to sharpen, I have an old WEN wet wheel.
Hi Todd, thanks for everything you do! I've made several purchases over the last few years based on your data and look forward to every test.
You mention that if the viewers would like to see anything tested to mention it so I have a couple of ideas with the example I'm currently using.
*Spray adhesives
(Lepage heavy duty)
*Nitrile gloves
(Gorilla)
*Hand degreaser
(fast orange)
*Multipurpose cleaners
(super clean- purple container)
These are all things I use in the shop and would love to see some comparative testing against other products.
Thanks again!
The ASMR segment slayed me. Great job as always Todd!
I know these videos must take up an incredible amount of time to do as well as edit. I think people would love to see a video on your process for each of these test videos. Starting at your concept for making a video, doing research on what brands to buy for testing, how you design and build testing rigs, failures, successes. Just all the behind the scenes stuff for what you accomplish in a typical week. Break it down day by day, getting good B-Roll. It might be a good premise for a second channel Or as a midweek upload to tease the main video on Sunday.
Yes please!!!!
I got incredibly uncomfortable when he whispered to me after spending the entire video yelling.
Fastest notification yet! Love these knife testing videos.
Thank you very much! Enjoyed your video today! Very informative and helpful!!
if so about knives , i think you gonna like this channel
ua-cam.com/channels/g3qsVzHeUt5_cPpcRtoaJQ.html
i think project farm will be impressed also if he have not already been there
You made me laugh when you whispered. There is someone that is doing that but isn't doing his job at all. With that said I have the lansky system but I end up going through the course stones quite fast. I still want the Russian made system because of the base and how it keeps the knife in the best angle.
Me as well!
@Michael Bishop edge geometry is where it’s at. Since all the knives were the same the only difference was the shape left by the sharpener.
Your homemade knife made me think we need a “best prison shank” test.
100%
"And prisoner 262 bled out in only 13 seconds, very impressive!"
my money is on the shard of glass/ceramic
"We're going to test that!"
The first test would be how easy it penetrates an inmate, then how easy to it is to hide it on self and in the cell.
We can also test how good it can hold in a prison riot.
And for the destructive test we’ll see how good too does digging tunnels.
Freakin' love knife sharpening videos. Let's hope there's part 4.
Thank you very much!
Agreed! If there is a part 4, could you include a pro service, such as Knife Aid?
I have Lansky and KME, the KME is more precise and comprehensive but for my high end folders and slip joints, I always use my Lansky and the results are always phenomenal (hair popping, paper towel slicing sharp)! The most interesting part of this excellent test is the Lansky is near the top for the least money. If you buy the basic Lansky (non Diamond) but use the coarse Diamond home to get your burr as the first stone, you can get these results and maybe even a bit better for less than $60!
Thanks for sharing!
Well done indeed as a professional Chef, one note to pass on dull knives really really cause too much force which makes the worst accidental cuts ever. I have a Santoko with a 15 degrees and a Wusthoff Trident set @ 22 degrees or close to it. that have served me well for 30 years. Awesome job testing. I think I might grab the KME sharpener here very shortly.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
The wicked edge would be where I'd spend my money for your knives. I've had it for about a year and I will never use another for precise high quality edges & knives.
I own a KME and Tormek unit, the KME is great for sharpening chef knives.
@@RogerSegerJr oh yes literally 4 times the price for a 1% increase in performance. why not.
Don’t hesitate! KME is where it’s at. Best customer service / support of any company I’ve ever dealt with.
I've tried a few different styles of sharpeners.
Went back to a stone.
Watching you whip that knife up out of scrap was great.
Thanks for the feedback.
Amazing how precise your testing is, whenever I'm going to buy something I always check if you have tested it. Thank you!! You should definitely test some sets of ratcheting wrenches! Would love to see the results.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@@ProjectFarm Definitely ratchets.. I have gone through tons of them over the years.
The day will come, when manufacturers will tag their stuff with "Tested by Project Farm"
My craftsman 1/2" ratchet handle broke. It had a lifetime guarantee. The company went under; pretty sure the pledge of replacement won't be honored by the new brand, will it? **sigh**
HF actually sells some pretty good wrench handles:in 1/2" I bought one made of composite with TPM sides and a socket release button, with about 50 clicks/360°. Another has a heavy handle a tilt head and a release button with ~72 clicks. Yet another has a chromed shaft, TPM/rubberized grip and very distinct clicks - 72. Also a set of stubby ratchets with tilting heads on sale - included a 1/2", a 3/8", and a 1/4" drive. They were all under US$20. The crapsman was ~$35.
I want him to test my current wife with the women I want to leave her for to make sure im doing the right thing.
I acquired a TSPROF and got a wizard status in my family. They are super happy with the fact that they can simply jerk the handle, and the knife gets sharper without any effort. I pre-set it to match the angle of my mum's kitchen knife, and she just uses the assembled and pre-set thing.
Thanks for sharing.
Я приобрёл 2 станка ТСПРОФ очень доволен, мне других не надо. Другие убрал в шкаф.
In project farm we trust!!!
It's such a coincidence, I suggested a knife sharpener brand test in your last video. I'm quite sure you had this lined up already though. Thanks PF!!
Thank you very much!!
Dude, that should be a bumper sticker!
@@kobrien6657 Definitely should be!!!
@@ProjectFarm How much time went into this video? This seemed to be a lot of repeated testing for science. It is very good you do this testing, one more idea: what if you could tell in the end if certain product that you recommend not available what should be the features on a different one that we should look for. For example in EU we don't always have the same brands as there.
I love hearing your enthusiasm, plus the ASMR part is funny! What a nice knife you made. These products are fascinating.
Thanks!
The TSPROF is a work of art. I'd definitely have to keep it on display. Great video as always Project Farm. Curious what you do with all the products you test when you're done with them.
Thanks! I have a person selling the good products so the money can help those in my community.
@@ProjectFarmalways good to see someone giving back even when not prompted to. Good man
That thing definitely is well engineered!
I picked the kme over the others when I was choosing a guided system because of price and the extras you can get if you want. Convex rod, different grit stones, recurve stone, strops, and the laying films. They make almost anything you would need to make what ever edge you need. I still prefer freehand sharpening on longer blades due to the angle changing from tip to heel on fixed systems.
Agree with you on this. My hunter buddies also use KME to sharpen their broad heads for archery season. Very versatile kits and accessories. Don't forget the strop either.
@@Tester13032 yes I forgot about the smaller jaws for that stuff I think they might even have an 🪓 attachment
The KME is my favorite too of the guided systems although I went with whetstones for myself, I like the more time and attention you have to put in it. My first knives already came out scary sharp so I'm a happy camper. But I get the appeal of the KME, it has just the right amount of features without being as in depth as that TSProf, and I imagine availability of different stones and accessories might come into play as well. But you know, sometimes I use sandpaper on a flat ceramic tile for things like tools when I need to do some proper re-beveling of rusty blades or chisels, so there's a use case for very basic setups like that too.
Thanks for the feedback.
I really appreciate the level of detail you include in every video. Seeing the proper use of each tool is critical in the overall enjoyment factor. This makes other channels knife sharpener reviews just seem cringe worthy. And I know you know who I am talking about. Thank you for providing this enjoyable content.
Thanks and you are welcome!
Yes, thank you for using a strop!
The home made knife looks great!! I used to use an orthodox sharpening stone to sharpen my knives. I need to buy a new one, with a blade guide, because my left arm suffered serious nerve damage from being struck by lightning, & my left hand is no longer as steady as it once was!! Another tool for you to test are soldering irons. 3 types: Cordless battery powered, butane/propane fuelled, & mains powered. Mine are gas powered. I have 4 for various jobs.
I carry the Weller WPS18MP with me (field service.) It uses a wall wart to power it yet it has lots of capacity! I got it at Home Depot. They said it's equivalent to a 60W iron yet only uses like 15W. It's impressive! It regulates the temperature too, and has an LED which lights red when you turn it on and changes to green when hot. It also has a white LED work light.
You survived being struck by lightning? Damn man, hope you're healthy (or as good as possible) now!
@@kenmore01 I have a vintage Weller 8200 soldering gun I like to use when I'm wiring stuff out in my garage and a Hakko FX88D that I like to use on vintage tube radios on my work desk in the house. Sometimes, like if I need to solder to a chassis I'll use the weller with a custom tip made of solid copper and it works a treat.
@@Dirkietje8 I’m about as good as I’ll be now.
@@kenmore01 Weller makes excellent products. My main workhorse iron is a gas powered Dremel unit. It can be used as a blowtorch too. Excellent for heat shrinking and radiator repair jobs.
Thank you for not folding into sponsors. I know it's more money but it's honest reviews doing honest tests. At the best of your ability. Everyone needs more project farm in their life even if they don't know. You have confirmed some of my beliefs and disproved some and I'm good with that
You are welcome!
One thing to note on the Tormek is that the stone is about 220 grit out of the box but can be easily dressed to much finer grit with a dressing stone to hone a much finer edge.
The build quality on the TSPROF is insane, it reminds me more of a mechanical stopwatch than a knife sharpener
Thanks for the feedback.
It’s tempting. I love the design. And it seems to work well.
If you have expensive knives and like to keep them sharp, well worth the price.
Best and most useful channel on all of UA-cam!!
Thx for all your efforts 👍
Wow, thanks!
When you pulled out the TS Prof, I swore to myself, that thing has to work. It's a very nice looking unit, in addition to its performance. As always, outstanding work sir. Thank you.
You are welcome!
Suggestion for a video: Walkie Talkies. Specs vs actual and price points are all over the place. The Farmabago would definitely need to be featured in this video.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Oh man what a great idea!
I have a Uniden set that is supposed to be rated for 32 miles, but I barely get a mile. Maybe 2-2.5 miles if out on a lake...
I suggested condoms.
@@TheWormzerjr "Ribbed for her pleasure. We're gonna test that."
I love the simple Smiths sharpeners. Small enough to live in a work bag or glove box. Can be easily used in the dark and with cold hands.
Thanks for the feedback.
i keep a lansky on my closet shelf and a smith's in my car door!
Great video, i've got a tormek my self, but you can buy sharpener mounts for all kinds of tools, from Axes to knives, to lathe tools. Having the right mount makes for better edge. Good video! Love it :)
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
Excellent editing and pacing. Researching knife sharpening as a beginner and this was incredibly practical, objective and professional. Thank you very much!
Thanks and you are welcome!
I love how thorough this dude is in his testing. It's absolutely hypnotic to me.
Thanks so much!
@@ProjectFarm Automatic bro. Thank you.
The ASMR at the end really threw me for a loop. I had to double check to make sure I was still watching the same video. Lol.
Thanks for the feedback.
Two things I would love to know: 1. How long did each sharpening take, and 2. How much blade material was removed (do some methods wear your knife down faster)?
I use a lansky for most sharpening for the last 20 years. On an ats34 knife that I have had the entire time there is barely any noticeable wear. Sharpening is about 5 minutes. I only sharpen until I can shave my arm. With daily use this will last around a month
Thanks for the constructive feedback.
How much comes off is all up to you. The worse off a blade is to start with, the more that has to be taken off to repair it. It's also up to you as far as how much YOU grind off with the sharpener. Yes, you CAN oversharpen your knife, and take much more off than necessary. Stop frequently while sharpening and inspect, once its ground off, obviously you can't put it back on.
I'm gonna tell you what. I use a worksharp and it you don't keep the blade moving you can easily put a trough in the cutting edge. I ruined 2 cheap kitchen knives before I got the hang of using it. A tiny belt sander is all it is.
This guy knows his way around the shop,and farm. Probably my favorite channel no it is my favorite.
Thanks!
The speedy sharp is awesome. I have had one in my pocket for the last ten years. It's by far the best every day carry sharpener I have ever seen.
Thanks for the feedback.
Considering the compact factor, it seems like a good product
I love it as well, have had one for many years and they make great stocking stuffers.
I can sharpen an axe or a pocket knife very quickly.
For my kitchen knives I use a work sharp
Thanks again for this quality content. I am a Science teacher and use your videos when explaining valid and reliable testing and producing accurate scientific reports.
Awesome! Thank you!!
I've always liked the tormek it may be expensive but you aren't limited to just sharpening knives you can sharpen chisels axes and even lawn mower blades for example
Yeah, i have the T7. Shame he didnt have the proper knife-jig (doesnt it come with the case anymore? mine did?) for the test, i think it would have helped its case slightly. The lansky holder idea was great :D Works well for the blade untill its curved tip.
Also,did he reprofile the stone from 220 to 1000?Should make a difference in the result.
Thanks for sharing.
Their diamond wheels let you quickly do carbides and tool steels as well.
@@mileshartman8717 Doubt it makes much of a difference when the edge was polished to that degree by the strop.
I recently discovered an easy way to sharpen my pocket knife. The steel in my kitchen knife drawer. Amazingly quick, amazingly sharp. Who would have guessed?
Thanks for the feedback.
Most of these require too much time and setup for me and perhaps others who merely slicing, say, a tomato. I bought that $9 Rada sharpener that you reviewed in April 2020 and I simply pull it from the drawer and make a few passes. It's great; tomatoes don't stand a chance. Still, this was a fascinating video.
Yup, the KISS principle is lost on several of those kits.
Never go full Rada type sharpener. After a year or so the edge will start to get groovy in the bad sense and then there is no more hope other than a full re profiling of it. All drag type sharpeners are problematic in time.
@@dragoscoco2173 Thanks. The knife on which I use the Rada primarily is old and thus disposable if need be. I'll keep an eye out for the "groovy."
I'm particularly impressed by the TS prof's level of adjustability and the amount of information available to the user. That is what enables repeatability and consistency. It also looks gorgeous. The Tormek's edge was the most beautiful under a microscope. I love the polished look. I wonder if it has any influence on the actual performance of the blade.
it does, there is a reason I use brasso or another polish after sharpening my knives
@@frogz Could you describe how you use the polish? I'm curious to try it myself.
btw knife polishing is a band idea for sharpness. Knife edge has to have a microsaw.
@@muxahx3096 this is not necessarily true. A micro saw toothed edge will slice more aggressively if the blade is dragged, but the points of those teeth also blunt and dull faster. A very smooth but sharp edge will slice with hardly any pulling and will remain sharp longer. Some engineering journal actually published a study on this. Micro-sawtoothed edges are not universally desirable.
In the tests done in this video, the test cuts were done with a direct push, not with a dragging motion. Without a dragging motion this kind of test would not show any advantage to having microsaw structures because sawing necessarily requires the sawteeth to drag across the thing being cut.
@@Berkana exactly 👍👍 spot on chap and well articulated if I do say so myself
Cheers
Wow, I was just gonna comment how interesting the different schools of thought are between knife sharpening but an ASMR moment of Tool Time with Todd. That knife turned out amazing. I love what remains consistent about your channel but appreciate when you try something different for us.
The pen lol. The day he loses that pen will be a sad one.
Thanks!
Wir haben den TSPROF K03 als Geschenk aus Deutschland Kaufland für meinen Vater bestellt. Er schärft Messer für jeden, den wir kennen. Er war sehr zufrieden damit!
Woodworking finish next?
Alot of debate in the community about which is the most durable
Thanks for the suggestion. Thanks for the feedback.
I've owned that Lansky for approx 15 years and for the money it puts a good edge on my knives. I make knives, so what matters to me is how fast can I dial in my initial edge geometry. Once you have that, most of these sharpeners are pretty much the same. Edge retention has a lot to do with the steel, and as long as you are under 200....you've got a sharp working knife. The Ken Onion Worksharp is great to get your initial geometry if you are making a knife. If you are just sharpening a commerical blade, any of these work. It comes down to budget.
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I have owned that LANSKY for approx 15 years and for the money it
puts a good edge on my knives. I make knives, so what matters to me
is how fast can I dial in my initial edge geometry.
Once I have that - most of these sharpeners are pretty much the same.
Edge retention has a lot to do with the steel - and as long as it is
under 200... one has a sharp working knife. The KEN ONION WORKSHARP
is great to get the initial geometry correct when making a knife.
If one is just sharpening a commercial blade, any of these work.
It comes down to budget.
@@andrew_koala2974 your “rewrite” for “clarity”(?) is infinitely more difficult to comprehend than the original post.. I literally had no problem in understanding what they were trying to get across.
@@TylrVncnt I think its a bot. Someone trying out programming.
Good bot
Your videos remind me of Jafromobile haha. I love it when things are to the point, efficient, and I don't have to listen to stories about the current weather or what the dog did today for 10 min before getting to the good stuff. Jafromobile always compacts his videos as well, 100% knowledge 0% bs lol. Well done sir.
Thank you very much! As a former military guy, I greatly appreciate getting right to the point. lol
@@ProjectFarm Haha that explains it! Respect! I got an LMTV and I'm obsessed with military history/tech, not too much but enough to make me appreciate it. Hoorah! :P
Another VERY impressive video. Very informative. Excellent testing techniques. And no bias from using donated products. Bravo!!!
Thanks!
Personally, I love my whetstones and self-made leather strop. But the Lansky, KME and TSProf are really good concepts (like the Wicked Edge, but that one is really way too expensive) and you get the quality you pay for. Lansky is the least in terms of ease of use and the personally I think the TSProf might be harder to get the right diamond plates for?
The Tormek, while it is the most versatile, you could do chisels on it for instance, is a bulky apparatus that would only see about enough use for it to be justified in a woodworking shop with a couple of guys. It also makes the grind slightly hollow, which is great for cutting meat, but it doesn't have enough metal behind the edge to sustain heavier work like bushcrafting IME.
If you're on a really tight budget: wet sandpaper (grits 220, 600-800, 1200-2000, and possibly even a 5000 grit one to finish if you can find it) put it on a ceramic tile that is flat. Instead of a leather strop you could use one of those paint stirrer wooden sticks, soft wood will burnish your knife's edge too. Honestly, you'd be hard pressed to find the difference in edge quality with a proper setup.
Thanks for the feedback.
I'm kinda suprised he featured Tormek because to me that is not made with knife sharpning in mind, its more for tools like planer and chisel etc, but good for the farm to cover all the basis.
Wet sanding is how I work all my hand plane blades. I've never found anything that makes them as sharp.
Sharpen my chisels and plane irons on my KME. put them in at an angle and haven't had any problems, but i'm picky on sharpness, not geometry.
As a Tormek owner for about 20 years, I can tell you the you can make razor blades weep with it, if you take the time with the correct fixtures which you did not use. I realize that there are much cheaper methods, the Smith that you used among them. They will work for about a year for a few bucks. I use the Tormek for everything including planer and shaper blades so it pays for itself.
Thanks for the feedback.
With the extra blade and long knife jigs, the Tormek costs $900. To me, anything above $200 is justifiable only if you have many, many blades, such as knife shops, restaurants, barber shops, etc. And yet, restaurants and barber shops are perfectly happy with a steel rod and a leather strap.
@@jmchez Basically. I agree with you. I was doing woodworking at the time, and running to the PC or the store everytime I needed a planer blade was not convenient. Also, I sometimes did not know how long various blades would remain available. When I got mine, they cost less and since I was (am) a business owner, there are advantages.
Aside from these justifications, my personal philosophy has always been that I buy the best....I'm currently 74, work full time as a factory automation designer, and thus far, I've never been sorry, and there will come a time when I will sell it for about what it cost me.
Project Farm and Tyler Tube have been stepping on each other's toes a lot lately. I feel like it's time for them to do a collaboration.
Nah tyler cant compare with this guy
Nah nah, war.
@@AdrianRO1918 agreed
Tyler doesn’t know how to sharpen knives then blames the product 🥴🥴🥴
Tyler tube sucks
So awesome! I got the kme years ago... I've sharpened dozens of knives with all sorts of steels using the 4 included diamond stones... they are still sharpening to this day!
Thanks for sharing.
Call me old fashioned, but I learned to sharpen knives on an Arkansas whet stone. I have a diamond "stone" now which does a nice job, but I still finish on a fine whet stone. Those machines are for people who haven't learned or won't learn to sharpen a knife by hand. Once learned, the skill is yours for life.
He tested whet stones in the previous knife sharpening tests.
@@cfreezy45 He may or may not have "the touch" on a stone, but those who do can create a razor edge on a knife made of high grade steel.
Thanks for sharing.
Excellent video. Just wanted to point out however, that "sharpness" is not a black and white thing. In the context of this type of video, you used an objective measure of sharpness (Bess scale), which makes sense given the need to control for as many variables as possible. In real life, "sharpness" is varied depending on the type of knife and use. For example, It's possible to get a blade incredibly sharp, but at the cost of durability (how long will that sharpness last). That's why lots of times as a knife sharpener, I won't go past a certain point even though I can get it much sharper. You did a great job of trying to address this with the edge retention testing at the end. Also, in some other applications, you'd want more of a toothy edge vs polished to get micro-serrations that can aid in slicing. Overall amazing video!
Excellent points.
Thanks so much!
I have noticed that getting my M390 benchmade a mirror edge it seems to have a harder time cutting because it isnt toothy
I love my lansky. For the price and the efficiency for that price it has been my go to for years. I usually use the smith you tested to keep blades touched up a little longer before taking them to the lansky but when I use the lansky I make a day out of it and basically have a hulu and sharpen party just watching a show and sharpening blades all day to bring them back to peak performance.
Thanks for sharing.
Lansky is still the best. When I am done with the stones I take fine grit sanding paper usually starting with a 1500 grit and you cut small pieces the size of the stone wet them with the honing oil and "stick" them to the bottom of the stone. That way you can give the knife a edge that is crazy sharp and durable. I start at 1500 and step it up with 2000, 2500, 3000, and finish with a 5000 grit paper I get. Try it once just remember to slide a piece of the sand paper under the adjusting rod when you fitted the sand paper so you keep your angles correct.
For a couple af years ago, I'was at a fleamarket. I'm always interested in small boxes and whats in them. When I stand and open this little plasticbox, the seller came over and asked me if I knew was it was, because he didn't. I know a Lansky set, when I see it. I respond to the seller by asking "If I tell you what it is, then I can get it for around 3 dollars?" He accepted and get a little wisere that day and I get a Lansky set.
@@peha524 not bad since the sets range from 50 bucks on up.
I really like your videos and the objective perspective you take, where you just present the results and let the viewers decide which compromize between price and quality they want. However, I think you have missed 1 important factors in this test: How many sharpenings will it take before the sharpening tool cannot sharpen to the initial standard,
As a woodworker and avid camper I know a lot about sharpening tool edges. Like you said you like the lansky which is great if all your doing is sharpening knives but the best sharpener you tested is by far the Tormek (Jet makes a model that’s about $250.00) the Tormek is the most versatile in that it can sharpen knives, axes, chisels, scissors, drawknives, etc.. With all the other sharpeners you tested you don’t have that versatility. Also with the Tormek you get an extremely polished blade which is beneficial when sharpening chisels and hand plane blades as an unpolished edge will leave an uneven plane in the wood leaving long “scratch marks” requiring more sanding especially with harder woods like cocobolo or working with figured grain woods. The polished edge will also hold the edge extremely well and if you keep strapping it on the wheel in between cuts you can basically extend the life of your blade almost indefinitely.
Thanks for the feedback.
Seconded, I own the T-4 with the Japanese stone, and other useful additions. Amazing system.
@@Bauhauser t4 is perfect for Hobby and professional use, I had mine for years and Dont want to miss it:)
It's too bad that the T-8 didn't come with the knife holder. The jigs allow for the knife to be rotated (for the curved tip) while keeping the holder jig always connected and perpendicular to the guide rod. Instead of rotating the knife holder. Also the guide rod can be flipped and used for stopping to ensure the sharpness. Just info for future use :)
Tormek was shown in a bad light in this video, but it is their own fault. A Tormek used properly is really effective. It is very expensive, but if you are a pro user, it is worth it. I also have a Japanese water stone with my T-7 and it puts a mirror edge on my best knives and tools that lasts for ages, I have many of the jigs even can sharpen drill bits
Thanks for the feedback.
@@Anchor2012 The detail view of the tormek resulted in the finest edge without scratches. I think the soft steel cuts better with scratches. Using a Hrc 61 plus knife would may be show a different picture especially after blade abuse. But sharpening is a field of its own. I look into the tormek for years now this just shows me why I will get it as a treat may be next year.
You can also get a stone dresser that will turn the stone into a fine stone.
@@jesusisalive3227 It comes standard, but I didn't see it used.
I’ve had the KME for a couple years now. Love it. It received laced my older Lansky. I’ve found the Lansky stones start to wear oddly and become less effective. The KME has flat diamond stones and they are awesome. Plus the KME has the plastic guide on the rod that really holds the angle very precisely. Love the KME!
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I had the KME for a couple years now. Love it.
It replaced my older LANSKY. I found the LANSKY stones start to wear
oddly and become less effective. The KME has flat diamond stones and
they are awesome. Plus the KME has the plastic guide on the rod that
really holds the angle very precisely. Love the KME!
Thanks for sharing.
Bought the Diamond Stone Kit after watching this video. Used it twice and the Coarse 330 grit started flaking off. Not sure if these are actually stone or some other non metal material with an abrasive coating. I say non metal because a magnet doesn't stick to them. Other than this issue I agree the KME is great and has given my knife a much sharper edge than all the cheaper sharpeners I've used in the past. Hopefully the 330 grit is an odd defect.
@@waltermelyon4300 I’d contact KME if you are having problems with the stone. I’m sure they would make it right. I haven’t had that problem with any of my stones.
@@waltermelyon4300
Saying non -Metal [i.e. nom metallic on the basis that a Magnet is NOT attracted to it is a FALSE STATEMENT.
There are many metals that a Magnet will not attract to.
Magnets will ONLY attract to FERROUS materials.
Sadly your knowledge of science is lacking - typical of a US flaky third-world education that manufactures ignorance
Do yourself a favor and start reading books you can learn from - read one book a month -
Even David Bowie read 100 books - How many have you read?
Do you even know what BOOKS are ?
How many do you have at home?
Answer the questions for yourself = Telling me will not help you
Know that CORPORATIONS and many people today lack morals and integrity -
They seek instant gratification and for-ever increasing profits - selling junk at
inflated prices = when automation enables mass production at low unit cost.
When CORPORATE executives earn 300 times more than the average hard
working Man / WoMan who struggle to survive - a corrupt Government that looks
the other way - So many things wrong with the USA - instead of being an example
to the rest of the world it is the WORLD POLICE - terrorizing and raping other nations
and spying on its own population. It is a sick country in need of shutting down.
And that is coming soon - it is already more than halfway there.
When it is shut and rid of the CORPORATE GOVERNMENT the people will be free at last.
Good luck and goodbye.
Another excellent review. Very concise and succinct. I don't think there's a better channel for reviews this in-depth. Cheers!!
Thanks!
Thank you for helping us spend our money wisely. Could you test automotive eraser wheels, the type that you fit into a drill, that are used for removing glue and stuff? Thanks.
Great suggestion! Also, thank you for supporting the channel! It helps me put together more expensive reviews.
Yes! I don’t know why I never thought of this suggestion myself. While you’re at it and you have the tools out to test these, how about you test different brands of roll lock abrasive wheels and different brands of wire wheels. It’s really miserable when you spend the extra money to buy the good stuff when it comes to any of these products just for them to turn into dust after 30 seconds of use.
Id be interested in this too, I use 3m green roloc for removing gasket material on engine parts, its stout enough to get through most gaskets and sealant quickly but soft enough not to destroy an aluminium casting in a hurry (tho it will of you lean on it) I use mine in an adapter to a snap-on 12v micro polisher so theres a whole other avenue of reviews haha (my workshop doesnt have air)
(Dad taught me: ) My favorite sharpener is an old style puck stone and using my Father's advice of using the same angle that is already on the edge of whatever I'm sharpening. I have several of the fancy sharpeners and yet I go to the puck more often.
Thanks for the feedback.
pucks are only good for axes and big stuff. i woudnt sharpen my Mora nor Opinel knives with a puck.
@@Francois_Dupont Pucks work fine if you know how to use them. And you can carry them in your pocket for multi use in the woods or on the farm.
Love your videos! One of a kind channel! How do you go about acquiring all the tools considering you are unlikely going to keep them all.
Patreon helps a lot. After I'm done with them, a local person sells the items and funds help people in need. Thank you
@@ProjectFarm oh wow, I didn't expect the last part at all! That's really kind of you!
@@ProjectFarm 👍🏼Nice! 😀
@@ProjectFarm you’re a good man sir.
@@ProjectFarm That’s neat. Here I thought you had a garage full of really cool stuff.
I just wanted to drop a note and explain how much I appreciate your videos. High quality, great production value and always interesting content. Great job. Your channel and videos warm the human spirit. Thanks for the great content and the joyful manner you exude. You are a breath of fresh air in the era of propaganda and big tech censorship. Thank you and MUCH LOVE, BROTHER!
Thanks and you are welcome!
And on THIS EPISODE of "Will it shiv?"
Haha, great work with the ASMR, very calming.
Thanks!
As a South African, I was delighted to see the Warthog being tested. I was a bit surprised at the bluntness of the knife after you used the Warthog though. In my experience, working through the coarse, medium and fine stones and then finishing off on the steel sides, all with just a downward stroke motion, not a sawing motion, produces a very sharp knife. I personally prefer using a standard benchstone or a Lansky, but if I need to sharpen a knife relatively quickly and without too much fuss, I grab the Warthog. Great video btw! Thanks for the time, effort and money you put into your videos
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
The Lansky system is the best “bang for buck” system out there. For the average user at home, you are not going to notice the difference between the Lansky and the Wicked edge. Especially considering the outlay. Lansky has hit the mark providing a great product at an affordable price. Job done.
Q
I've had a Lansky for 30 years and love it. It has stones instead of diamonds. Keep playing to get some of their diamonds but haven't done it yet. The stones still work just fine
I agree, but the best and simplest method is to still just hand sharpen your knives. There is no need for jigs and contraptions. The are very uneccesary and a waste of money. All you need is a decent sharpening stone.
@@orion7741 I have to disagree. Fact of the matter is, unless you are sharpening knives professionally, you won’t be able to get the EXACT degree of angle to sharpen on every stroke. Is this stroke 22 deg? Is this stroke 20deg? You don’t know. For the average joe that wants their knife sharpened once a year, these systems get the edge consistently at the correct angle, each time, every time. It takes the guess work out. Which is what you need for a sharp knife. So yes, you DO need these systems.
Nope, the Work Sharp Precision Adjust is. I got it for $50 CAD when I couldn't find the Lansky anywhere for under $70, which is just a clamp and some stones... Not even a stand so it's not too practical or easy to use.
You can’t test the tormek without the knife sharpening jig made for it, everything is designed specifically for use with it. Rare oversight on your part.
Plus he did not use the stone grader, so the knife was sharpened at 220 grit!
If they'd include it in the box, that'd really help. Those guys charge a TON for some pretty chintzy accessories (plastic bushings!?), and the ones I'm looking for are often hard to find.
@@deyyoung42 great point!
@@gth042 i don't know anything about plastic bushings, but the stone grader should be included. My point is how much sharper it will make your tools; all tools, not just knives.
Thanks for the feedback.
Tormek for sure, can sharpen anything with additional jigs. I love mine!
You sold the Tormek way short. You used the wheel as supplied without grading it fine and you did not have the proper knife holder. You did not let it shine as well as it could have. As expensive as it is, you should have given it its due. I have a couple of Tormeks. These are not one trick ponies like that Wicked Edge. You can sharpen all manner of implements on it which might help mitigate the substantial cost. They are not the best knife sharpener but are damn good. The set up time is its downfall when sharpening one knife. The best value for the money for a kitchen knife is the Chefs Choice Trizor XV Edge. This is for kitchen knives like you used, not heavy hunting knives or pocket knives.
Thanks for the feedback.
Man another great video. Your attention to detail and rigorous testing is what always makes or breaks a deal for me! I watch reviews on stuff im not even looking to buy because i enjoy the videos that much!! Keep up the great work!
Thanks, will do!
I would like to suggest to make a video testing and comparing survival knives. There are people who are testing them in their personal usage but none are standardized like your methods of testing. I do hope you'd consider that. Thank you for your wonderful videos.
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
That would be a hard test to do since there are literally hundreds on the market. He would need to do a poll where people could vote and then maybe only test the top10. BTW, if you haven't, try out the LionSteel B41, it's amazing.
@@isaiahii6982 Thank you for the recommendation. I will search and read about the LionSteel B41 you suggested. As for which knives to test, it's easy.. he always test the most popular brands and models in the market.. why doing a poll while there is already one called sales. That'd be like reinventing the wheel.
Some brand recommendations:
Benchmade
Morakniv
Fallkniven
Ferber
Tops
Cold steel
CRKT
Ontario
Schrade
SOG
Buck
Camillus
Checked Lansky on Amazon. Lots of bad and one star reviews. The new versions are not as well built and usable as the old kits. People complaining that the stones wear out and the angle is not accurate except in the middle of the blade. Hard to use successfully, with the blade coming loose from the clamp. The overall design is cumbersome.
The Work Sharp Precision Adjust Knife Sharpener
costs less and has lots of good reviews. So I odered it.
The one I bought, all the rods were bent, which means the stones woudl all be at different angles.. I bought it on amazon,so it was probably a chinese knockoff. Either way, its way too time consuming and over-complicated to set up. I can sharpen my knife with a ceramic rod to a more than good enough sharpness 10 times in the amount of time it takes to set up the lansky once. It's just a gimmicky waste of time.
You should be happy with the Precision Adjust, I really like mine and it's easy to use.
Thanks for the feedback.
Another great review - thank you! Idea for a possible future review - TV antennas, for those of us not willing to pay the cable/satellite bills. So many to choose from, many of which look alike. Bet you could help figure out which antenna works best for the $$
Hand down, the best impartial and unbiased test I have seen on youtube. Great job.
I have been using TSPROF Profile K03 for 2 years. It allows you to sharpen longer blades than Blitz, although not as technologically advanced and compact. Yes, it was expensive, but it was worth it :)
Thanks for the review!
I have TSPROF KO3 also and I love it. I have most of the other ones and occasionally sharpen a knife with one but never get the same results as the TSPROF KO3 with Diamond sharpening stones. V
You made your knives as sharp as some of the knife enthusiasts on youtube lol, well done! Note that I believe all sharpeners benefit from the strop + compound
Did you strop the Smith's knife? I suspect it had a micro burr that basically bent while cutting through the wood. Stropping likely would've removed it.
I love my Ken Onion Worksharp! I will admit it definitely has a learning curve, one thing that took me a while to figure out is making sure I run the knife along the rollers to maintain a consistent angle!
Thanks for sharing.
They rock. And you don't have to sharpen as often. Love mine too.
I love both the test methodology and the commentary. For the commentary, I like the speed (its like 2x speed) and the excitement when there is a superior result. Keep up the good work. I’m looking forward to more reviews of stuff I’d like to buy.
Thanks, will do!
Great video, thank you. The knife edge tester was a brilliant touch. I have a Lansky and have found the clamp location to be important in recreating the same angle when resharpening. The angle the stone forms with the edge gets smaller as the contact point moves away from the clamp. This makes a sharper edge but slows down the initial sharpening. I mark the edges with a felt marker too and it reveals if you are going all the way to the edge or if you are riding a high spot. If you don't realize this the knife will be sharp near the clamp and unsharpened near the tip and handle. I always try to clamp the knife halfway along it's length and width unless the knife is too long. I always pushed the stones into the blade but I see you wipe them along the length. I lost the instructions years ago.
You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
Personally I like the Ken Onion Work Sharp electric belt sharpener with 1" grinder attachment the best. Have used Lansky, kme, various stones, Harbor freight 1" belt sander, etc. It's pretty easy to use once ya get the feel for it, and can resharpen pocket knives and kitchen knives. Love it.
Thanks for sharing.
Correct me if I am wrong but the Work Sharp does one side of the blade with the belt moving away from the edge and the other side of the knife with the belt moving into the knife edge. That bothers me.
@@TheDaumenthat would bother me too, but it doesn't. The belt moves away from the edge of the blade for both sides. Do one side, put knife in other hand and do the other side.
Does the belt change directions of rotation from one side to the other? @@Squillaempusa.
@@TheDaumenno. It goes one direction. Sharpen one side holding knife handle with right hand, then the other side holding it with left hand.
Very nice review. Waiting for this even I didn't know until now :D I'm currently using a couple of japanese water stones. I like the Tormek T8 because it's a pure machine and the sharpening procedure has a relaxing factor ;) I would like to see how it's working with the Tormek Japanese stone instead of their standard one.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
Man, you are awesome... Thank you for the time and effort you put into your channel and helping us.
Thanks and you are welcome!
Great review, I have a couple of the Smith's style sharpeners that cost just over $2 in my neck of the woods. I would like to offer some additional info outside the scope of this review. They are very fast, light and easy to use and fits into your pocket, with practice after initial sharpening it will give very close to a razor edge but will dull down to 'just sharp' with moderate use, however, just a couple of quick strokes will bring it back before you've even had time to get the other models off the shelf. Definitely not in the class of the other sharpeners but probably good enough for most applications and a real time/money saver that actually works.
Thanks for sharing.
I've had my 'Smith's' for years now, works great.
I love my small Smiths. Like the one tested and a smaller one with folding serration sharpening rod.
I have a no name one from ebay and it is super amazing. I almost cut my finger off my knives has never been so sharp
Congratulations with the tormek, its a proper tool for woodworkers etc! I recommend that you look up an instructional video for it, to see its full potential and proper use :)
Thanks for the suggestion.
You can sharpen your axe, hair clippers, all garden stuff, even serrated
I love the Lansky system. The very best tool I use is a simple jewelers "lupe" that fits
on one eye and is 10 power. Available at Harbor Freight for about $5 for five of different magnification levels.
Thanks for sharing.
I started out with the Lansky system, and do agree that they are a good budget/starter. However after the few times that I cut myself with it, I'd figure it comes down to the user and possibly the design of that system. I suspect other system of similar design also have similar issues. So I shelled out to get the Wicked Edge to accommodate my Miyabi kitchen knifes.
Great video! I love these comparissons.
I just want to say that I don't think you´re diong the Tormek T-8 fair since you are not using the intended jig for the machine in question. Most of the precission in that set-up lies in the diffrent jigs that go onto the universal support rod.
Thanks! Thanks for the constructive feedback.
I couldn't agree more. I also believe that dressing the stone would produce a finer finish on the blade therefore sharper.
I would like to see what would happen to a planer knife when sharpened on those different sharpeners. They are so hard that they are brittle when accidentally dropped.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Yet another awesome Project Farm video! No doubt you are aware of the EXTREME levels of refinement and discussion there is on youtube on the subject of knives, knife steels, and knife sharpening. But I think there are areas you failed to give sufficient focus on: 1) *The demands* on sharpening methods placed by modern, high-tech steels. Your tests used (apparently) "decent" kitchen knives, but the real demand for precision sharpening these days is high quality pocket and bushcraft knives using true premium steels. 2) *The abrasives* used are in many ways the core element, and the better quality tools all allow for use of a variety of abrasives (and levels of fineness). More than anything else, it's the choice and use of abrasives which allows for extreme edges. The unmentioned abrasive alternatives available on some of the methods is an important area you missed. 3) *Accuracy* over the entire length of the blade. This can be a tricky issue with the Tormek, for example. The Lansky has a LOT of slop in its angle settings. And you missed the real pinnacle of the Ken Onion system by not including use of their "grinding attachment," which allows for a freehand use that gives much better tip control. Methods of holding the blade for repeatability are key to sharpening the same knife many times with best efficiency. It's on the accuracy score that the Russian setup deserves highest marks -- and it's an important feature that you didn't really give adequate analysis of. You enter a challenging and controversial world when you broach this topic. You did a pretty good job, but you did miss some subtleties which are important on the "high-end" of the field.
Thanks! Thanks for the constructive feedback.
So as someone who is quite into sharpening a few tips and tricks.
1. As your abrasive becomes more fine, the amount of material it removes becomes more less as well, hence as you go to finer abrasives the time you need to spend on each increases significantly, this is useful if you want to get a true mirror polished edge.
2. Fine sharpening is all about keeping a very consistent angle, a change in angle of just a fraction of a degree will significantly impact your results. For tools that use claps such as the kme and lansky it's useful to make the outline of the clamp so you can tell if it's shifted during sharpening
3. Most of the systems you've shown have multiple upgrades and modules you can purchase for them, which significantly improve the system. Such as the base for the lansky and the different abrasives, which can give you a more fine edge. Things like micro diamond pastes and lapping sheets
4. The edge geometry matters significantly, narrow edges will give better sharpness and edge retention, wider ones will give more toughness. A concave grid like you'll get on the tormek would give you more sharpness but result in a more fragile edge that chips more easily, a convex edge that you get on the worksharp will not be as sharp but will be more resistant to chipping, a flat edge like you'd get on the lansky, kme and wicked edge gives you the best compromise between the two.
a narrow edge does not give you more edge retention than a wider edge.
@@fettmaneiii4439 yep, it definitely does. You can look up Cedric and Adas videos on it, he's done hundreds of tests on different steels at different angles and a smaller angle will always give you better edge retention, up to a point at which the edge becomes too unstable, but that's usually less than 15 degrees depending on the steel and heat treatment
Thanks for the tips and tricks!
I highly respect this channel and thank you for all your hard work to leed good ol boys like me what will help get a job done. I love me some work sharp so I'm happy to see them represented here. I'd love to see the TSPROF vs the Pro Precision Adjust and more of the angle sharpeners
Thank you for the video idea!
Your stuff is so damned impressive, as are your ethics. Thank you for what you do.Cedric & Ada did a review on the TORMEK T-8. He really liked it, but used the KME because of ease of use.
Thanks!