The Most Powerful ARM SBC Is Here And It's Crazy Fast! RK3588 SOC Hands-On
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- The all-new RK3588 Blows the other SOC competition out of the water. This thing is really powerful and is capable of running 8K 60fps and 4k 120fps but that’s just the start!
Want to run Genshin impact, Pubg, COD mobile on a single board computer? The RK3588 can and also handles high-end emulation like Gamecube and Wii using the dolphin emulator, PS2 using AetherSX2, and PSP at 5X resolution! This board supports Android 12 and Ubuntu Linux we test both in this video.
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00:00-Intro
00:15-Overview
01:54-Specs
03:17-Ubuntu RK3588
05:43-RK3588 Linux Gaming OpenMW
07:00-Android 12 RK3588
07:40-RK3588 4K Test
08:50-RK3588 Benchmarks, Geekbench,3dmark, ANTUTU
09:57-RK3588 Gaming Real Racing
10:26-PUBG RK3588
10:53-Genshin Impact RK3588
11:34-PSP 5X PPSSPP RK3588
12:12-Gamecube Wii Dolphin EMulator RK3588
12:53-PS2 AetherSX2 RK3588
13:31-Rockchip RK3588 First Impressions Android Linux
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I want to see Pine64 build a laptop with it. For about $400, they could make it a very nice alternative to Chromebooks for those of us who want a good battery life and fully FOSS device. I could see myself daily driving it for casual use.
Given they want 229 for just the SOC without anything else, i very much doubt we'll see it at that pricepoint anytime soon.
It would be nice if they made a upgrade for the pinebook pro
@@kajurn791 The soon to release ROCK5 Model B with an RK3588 will be a lot cheaper at under $100.
give it another 5 years before you see anything promising. even by then they will need more support for their own hardware. ubuntu touch or linux touch is just not ready for mainstream use yet. also this video is terrible. this guy is just a salesman. a standard pixel phone can play these games just as good if not better. some of these machines ports are nice on the board but this rockchip is a scam. stick with graphene os
Wanna see PinePhone 2 pro with this SoC
I'm jealous, but looking forward to seeing what possibilities exist through that PCIe x4 slot; that's enough bandwidth for a decent external GPU, or much faster networking or storage.
ARM gonna be the future of computing and even an older GPU will bring a nice boost.
Why not make one for Raspberry pi. you Already have the knowledge and power to do so TBH. but still i wanna see your version.
@@svos7559 the questions is, if we even need external gpu, when currently sd8gen1 has gpu with a performance of mobile 1050.
@@tomzpl One can always want more ;) - I'd love to see what kind of things I can do with an ARM desktop with my RX 6700 XT.
@@JeffGeerling Sort of negates the point as a huge mismatch with cpu & gpu while the new Mali M610 is a pretty impressive performer on the wattage with the 710 up 16 cores.
Its a combination of the CPU & GPU on the RK3588 that is giving ETA his results and likely a good match that makes the Pi GPU look like what it really is.
Have dreamed about have PS2 emulation running a SBC. Happy to see it's starting to happen.
Absolutely LOVE the inclusion on OpenMW! Would love to see it added to the list of usuals when it comes to these tiny Linux machines
Will Do
Yes, Elder Scrolls 3 Morrowind. Love it.
@@vng A classic,gritty rpg.
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I think the most graphically intensive games on Linux (Native ARM ports) which don't require Software Emulation or Cloud Streaming are:
Quake 3, Half Life, Minecraft, Doom 3, Half Life 2, and Morrowind.
I think in the future we might get: GTA SA, Fallout New Vegas, and Tomb Raider 2014.... recompiled to work on the ARM architecture running on a Linux OS.
I too would like to see how this new RockChip processor handles those Programs in Linux.
had it running on the pi4, 30fps. Made me want to install it on the big pc. Now i am still downloading mods for it. I am missing 180 mods and i am good to go xD
Yes, YES finally. This seems really good for building a low power but high Performance home server. Denitily gonna cop me a board with this SoC once available.
I enjoy seeing these sort of devices continue to develop in capability. Great demonstration!
Wow, it benched even higher than the Snapdragon 845. Can't wait to get one when a TV box comes with this chip. Cheer.
Mekotronics is already selling a TV Box. The RK3588 is clocked a little lower (around 2 GHz), as it is passively cooled.
@Sokha Chhan Bro it's clocked at 600k+ antutu. It's not 845 but more than 860 which u get in POCO X3 pro.
MPV shows a ton of information by pressing i. Use shift+i to make it persistent. You can find out for example the bit rate and what decoder it is using (hwdec means GPU)
I am very encouraged by the progress made with ARM boards for Linux. I would love to build a system with one of these, and once the Linux developers start developing for this chip, we will begin to see a host of Linux distros that will become available. Thanks for the heads-up on this chip, I look forward to getting one once the bugs get worked out.
The Mali-G610 MP4 actually runs more like an MP8, because ARM doubled all of its thread counts, data path's, integer, FP32 cache ect, when compared to the ARM Mali-G78. But, don't count the G78 out. SOC's like Googles Tensor uses the MP20 20core variant and the Kirin 9000 uses the full MP24 setup. Both are rated over 2TFlops FPP32. Of course real world its more like 1.2TFlops sustained.
No it isn't as the 2nd shader execution is part of how it works and actually less than the x3 of the G78.
The Mali-G610 is a MP4 of a generation that has almost double the previous generation as Arm continue to make pretty stellar generation performance jumps.
Very cool that you mentioned the approximate prices early in the video. Love to see content creators including feedback in their content ❤️
I was waiting for this one. Great future ahead, I hope we can get a cheap open phone out of it.
Honestly, this sounds too good to be true. For under $200, I would definitely pick one up.
The RK3588 is so impressive, I'm looking forward to when it'll be broadly available, with stable drivers and better pricing ! It's definitely the "next gen" of SBCs !
Couldn't agree more!
I am interested in high performance, and low power consumption mini computers for off grid use. I very much value the power specs you measure for us!
Ow if we had this in a future Handheld that would be EPIC ! 😳
agree
I wish you showed CPU/GPU usage monitor during 4k playback/gaming etc. Anyway, I've been eyeing this board since I saw in on their website. It's price is well, competitive if you want very fast ARM system. But for desktop probably going x86 for the same money would give you more... Still, great board, massive IO and great performing chip with low power usage. A way to go!
Hopefully it won't skyrocket
This is very exciting!
The fact this one already comes with dual m.2, pci-e slot and 4x sata makes it ideal to do a DIY NAS build which I'm guessing that's what they were aiming for with that itx board.
I enjoyed seeing this board.
This finally feels to me like it can take on a desktop for most purposes. I've been waiting for something like this for years. Super cheap yet very powerful and flexible. If I can get a RK3588-based SBC with 16GB RAM and 256GB NVMe for under $200 then I'll be very happy.
less than 200 with this configuration, no way.
youre asking for way too much
R u joking. $200 is impossible.
This looks like an excellent chip :) Would be very interesting to see Anbernic make a device powered by this
It'll probably be priced at like $800 lol.
It's pretty amazing. The video playback is exceptional.
This seems like a good advance on tiny computers, yet still need the software and prices to catch up but will be great for lots of projects.
WOW, this PCU is really impressive. I run geekbench on my ThinkPad with AMD Ryzen 7PRO 4750U (8c/16t) 15W TDP and got 1130 single core/5900 multicore score. So being roughly 60% slower than very respectable x86 chip is damn good result!
Geekbench is a joke, never use it for any actual testing.
1. geekbench is not a real world benchmark
2. ryzen 4000 is 3 generations old cpu now.
It's definitely impressive. I'm curious about a couple of things, power consumption and IPC. Oculus see building a small, but powerful desktop with a 32 gig version, and/or maybe a cluster for virtualization with several 16gig versions. I also can't wait to see more Linux support, especially Arch based distros.
@SOUL SEEKER I think it's the size + low power foot print. Something like this could be run from a battery.
Mixtel, I think, out of China has a crowd sourced project they are calling the Blade 3 that is designed for clustering and the pre-order price is not bad
Cool device, glad to see more players in the soc producing better products
What I'm looking for is a low cost device that can do smooth PS2 and Gamecube--this seems to fit the bill!
With an eye towards decent packaging and features, it would probably make an excellent 100 dollar SBC PC. We'll probably never see it, but it'd be nice. Consumer version of something like this will probably get jacked up to 150 minimum, with some knock offs at 125 with old/bad firmware that robs the performance.
It would be interesting with a smaller expansion board, as in the ITX form factor one can as well build an Intel or AMD system. Also, OpenMW surprisingly isn't all that demanding. With a bit of tweaking it was playable on my old Raspberry Pi 3B.
Super excited...
Impressive. I would totally use a $100ish machine like this as a daily driver.
ecstatic to see OpenMW in the mix!!!
Wow.. I love this chip. Can't wait to purchase it
Looks like Rockchip is getting better in software department. It's very nice to see a proper BSP for desktop Linux with what looks like actual hardware video decoding. It's still in a very alpha state but I'm sure they'll get there eventually.
I'm just going to say, if I found birds eating my dragon fruit, I'd be mad as hell.
I'm quite excited what SBC there is to come with this chip! And it shows again, that android is a quite good choice for this maybe to use as a low power surf machine or media streaming PC. Always amazing what runs out of the box with android.
Ans since the Raspi4 never was fast enough for smooth 4K playback, it's quite nice to see whats possible, like also with those oDroid N2 board. And therefore I gladly pay some bucks more, if it works so well.
I am still hanging on to my Optiplex core i5 on linux mint. If it dies before i do, then a little SBC with Linux would replace it. This RK3588 looks like the beginning of better SBC technology.
i feel like this thing with a bigger fan and overclocking could be pretty crazy
With attached external storage in a raid config, it would make a great server for hosting websites, nextcloud, forums, and powerful webassembly applications.
i wanted to remove the guts of an older laptop and put in a rpi4 ... but this ... this is marvelous
Morrowind? A man of culture! 20th release anniversary might be a good time to try Android OpenMW fork.
Seems to be an awesome choice for home server application! Would love to get one for something like hosting a 24/7 modded Minecraft server for homies which RPi4 struggles with
Amazing, i wainting for tv box Android with this soc, It has very good specifications, you can emulate a lot of things, it would be perfect for a game setup.
This kinda performance before software optimisations have been rolled out?! DAYMN. I can't wait until this comes to SBC's and other manufacturers, especially retro handheld companies like Anbernic. This kinda PPSSPP performance is something I've wanted to see on a handheld for ages. The real question though - what kinda power draw and thermals is this thing generating? I'd absolutely pay £100 to £200 for a system powered by this chip - but power consumption especially on a handheld system and thermals would be a real concern. ETA, I get this thing came with a pretty beefy heatsink, but were you able to get this board to thermal throttle at all?
And this SOC can combine, that's the crazy part, what if it's combined with 2 slot.
We should start seeing these in emulation handheld at some point right? Thats some really good performance, I didn't expect the Odin to be surpassed so fast.
I am looking forward to a powerfull arm based mini PC that competes with a light PC.
The ROCK 5 Model B seems to be the one that will offer most value right now, although they have yet to send any out for review. AMLogic is going to be firmly on the back foot as the videos being put out for the RK3588 are showing great performance out of the box. The only downside will likely always be the same one, no decent Mali GPU hardware driver support for open source use. Android will be the way to go for GPU related things.
Absolutely no. Panfrost is addressing valhall gpus since early 2022
I was excited for the Rock5; I purchased the $5 reservation code on the 16Gb model...I noticed you can now preorder the board, but with no timeframe for delivery... When will the Rock5 actually arrive after I purchase it...? I am hesitant in prepaying for a surprise delivery sometime in a few months...maybe...(?)
I've read that RK3588 doesn't have a compliant PCI-E port, so if they ever get it to work, it's very likely for it to have a huge performance penalty... Just to consider with this chip.
Are you saying that communication between the module and motherboard would be slow?
that would be weird since its predecessor, rk3399 has working and performing pci-e lanes, and rockchip basically aims with those flagships at performance bracket beyond rpi.
@@TomaszStachewicz I guess they poster is referring to Jeff Geerlings work on getting a GPU working on arm. the implementations might be fine for M2 storage, but can it run an raid controller or gpu? that is the question, because that seems quite broken.
@@bzuidgeest jeff ran gpu cards on rpi4 successfully, the video was posted 2 days ago, and the limitations were in the drivers. but yeah, the pcie lanes on arm chips are expected to be used for storage, not dgpu.
@@TomaszStachewicz you apparently did not listen to the video very well. Neither did you read his blogs about it. He clearly stated that it is a hardware issue with the chips. They are trying to work around it in software, but that might not be possible due to fundamentally broken hardware and missing features in hardware.
Wow this is epic!
I'd buy it if it had a similar form factor to a RPi4 even if it hit the $100 price point! Thanks for the details!
I am quite interested in it as well. I agree with Jeff, I would like to see what we could get in that 4x slot. I am also very interested in what could be done with virtualization with this type of ARM CPU.
Would be nice for a media box. A raspberry pi 4 can run Kodi playing at 4k but it could be snappier and it has to be run on a stripped version of Linux like Libreelec or OSMC to get the most out of it. This should be able to run Kodi on a full desktop you can switch to for some browsing or work. I would pay $100-ish for that.
would buy!
Thanks for the sharing,that's a great video shoot for introduction of RK3588,but i would like to see whether it could use HDMI IN to support PS4/PS5/Switch.
Finally, the true RK3399 successor. It's been due for too long now. Hope consumer products based on this come soon, as RK3566 is not even RK3399 level. This is a seriously FAST chip!
I've seen some of the benchmarks it have comparable CPU performance with the ryzen 5 3500U (running at 15W),
I really want to see an NPU on the next Raspberry Pi iteration.
A quad A76 around 80$ is very impressive. Definitely would love to see more optimization for android since it will benefit a lot
It's 209$ not 80$.
HDMI IN? Does that mean you can capture the HDMI OUT signal in an perpetual loop?
This seems like a good candidate for the brains in a home made arcade cab.
More videos on this chip would be nice
FPS dips are fairly normal in Genshin, even in more powerful SoC, so that SoC is impressive. It is running like a SD 860 IMO.
Is more on the tier of the Vanilla 865.
Raspberry is living off their reputation. I'd like something that was a computer for regular use. 4K video in 2022 is a must. You want to bet if this chip takes off, that Raspberry magically comes out with something more powerful? This thing with the right tweaks would be just fine for the vast majority of people. Build it/buy it, put it in a case and use it.
Hello, Outlander.
Man, that's wild it can run OpenMorrowind.
If the people at bluewave studios make openauto pro work on this then its gonna be fun
As the arm grows stronger.. we should prepare for box86.. .. and running Pc apps via architecture emulation
It looks good enough to use as a PC. I got a mac mini but would want this with that computer configuration, is that sold or is it only for developers?
I have been trying to find the best low power video trancoding solution for DVD quality streaming on my home network without waiting for Jeff Geerling to McGuyver an eGPU solution. (Love you, Jeff).
This GPU looks promising.
This would be cool to get Jetson NX/Raspberry compute module 3 compatible header, because i've got a 4 slot micro PC(smaller than a Mac Mini) with 3 jetson nano, and one Jetson TX2 NX, but i'd gladly upgrade to this little guy to go from a 2016 4 core to a newer 8 core.
I am very interested in this, as this would be the PERFECT NAS SBC candidate for low power idle consumption with SATA SSDs.
Jesus, that dev kit thing is a beast
Looks like a nice chip to build your home arcade system around.
Half the speed of my i7 haswell (2013), but incredibly impressive given the power draw. Probably still a few years off arm on the desktop.
I'm designing a retro handheld I posted on redit last week and I'm thinking of using an RK3588 SBC to power it, this could be what I'm looking for. This is a year old video, so I'm hoping prices have come down a tad but more importantly I hope PS2 emulation on this board has come far enough God of War can be played at 1x res at a solid 60fps, or even 1.5 -2x res with little to no tinkering.
this might actually be useful for me since im looking to build a cheap pc i could code on
This does show that Antutu benchmark doesn't say everything : Better score than my phone, but half the fps on PUBG. This chip is still looking very nice though, love to see a more open approch to arm computing
HDMI IN. You can actually use the test kit as a streaming computer, no additional hardware needed.
so sweet!
I'm seriously considering buying a rk3688 TV box, just cause they go so cheap and install armbian on it pray it gets some support, cause 200 is my real computer budget, but want to try try that soc so much
Which Mini-ITX case is that? I saw the module & main board on their website but couldn’t see/find the case you had in this video.
I saw you once utilized a " phone cooler " on another sbc, could you use it with this sbc and push it's limit via over clocking to push the a76 from meassely 2.4ghz to 3.0ghz?
One of the new RX 6400 gpus will fit in the 16x slot in a dell optiplex 9020 ssf now. I think its the best gpu you can use in it now. You might be interested to know that.
Is that a CM3 connection? If so does it fit in the Devterm? I have the 6 core with 4gb on order and this board would make a neat upgrade.
This chip will be a beast for emulation. Time will tell if it had enough kick to run PS2 and GameCube emulation.
You can open youtube vids in VLC or MPV to get around this issue.
Press the I key for mpv media player to show info. Although it will show extra stuff
Hope hardkernel makes an odroid board based on this soc, and that amlogic makes a competing soc
Finally a worthwhile ARM PC motherboard/CPU combination.
This is pretty cool.
Its a shame that the Qualcomm 888 dev board is well north of $1000. For now the best option for flagship ARM performance is a cracked-screen Samsung phone with its Dex. The s21 series bootloader has been unlocked; its unfortunate that no one has a linux distro running on one of these (running well, anyways).
If Sammy released a true linux dual boot for their phones, not the failed Linux on Dex, with good hardware acceleration support, they could market it as a way to be "green", reduce e-waste, and reuse cracked/broken phones.
Impressive piece of hardware.
Would this be in any of the new handhelds like a new Anbernec? I am looking forward to buying my first handheld.
I can't wait for a more pc like board where the chip and ram are separate!
I don't see anything like that coming out. These chips are made with LP RAM in mind, which is not packaged into SODIMMs. These are usually sold as entire SBCs, but the rise of 'compute modules' means you can at least upgrade the CPU and RAM with a new module.
Their website isn't clear, does the board come with the backplane board? The website sort of indicates that it's optional or additional - but there isn't any place on the website to order it. The confusing wording is "can be combined with a backplane", which sort of indicates that it's separate.
It does
what kind of power consumption and thermals are you getting? I'd love to make a custom Android gaming handset if it stays well below their rated 20W max power draw
If you press "i" on mpv, it show info about the playback
Hey @ETAPRIME would you llom st the framework laptop mainboard? It's being sold individually now and from what it looks like people are starting to use it in projects that would have also had something like a nuc
How would you say the performance compares to the faster NVIDIA SBCs?
Love the video. Any chance of running windows on this