Realignment Insider LEAKS Massive Realignment Update | FSU | ACC
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Today, Brett McMurphy tweeted that the SEC and B1G had no interest in adding FSU. We're chatting about that as Conference Realignment never seems to slow down.
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Agree that it would not make sense for any conference to publicly court FSU or any other ACC school legally. That doesnt necessarily mean they dont want to add them. Being a lifelong Buckeye I would love to see FSU in Big10. My 6 yr old son received a traumatic head injury when I lived in Florida and while at a hospital in Jacksonville met T K Weatherall as he served on hospital board as well. He saw my son and made him an honorary Seminol with an amazing certificate and several incredible pieces of football swag. Sorry to ramble but I will never be able to express how valuable that was to my son. Priceless
I suffered a TBI 13 months ago. It's life changing.
Wishing your son a healthy recovery and bright future. As a father of two myself, I can wholeheartedly relate. My two-year old is a handful! It's great to see the human side of football.
As a lifelong Seminole fan, thank you for sharing this story, it fills me with a sense of pride to have alumni that made a difference in the world in this way. I do appreciate you sharing this with our community
@powell4661 I'm really sorry to hear that. It is devastating. Although I don't know you, I'll be praying for your complete recovery. Best wishes
@alfredom3098 thank you!
As stated before, FSU would not have made the decision to leave the ACC unless either the Big 10 and/or SEC gave them a " wink " to abandon ship. The Big 10 and SEC are distancing themselves because the lawsuits will fly when FSU and Clemson depart.
Depending on if you include streaming numbers, FSU is either 7th or 9th in total views. Clemson is around 20th. It seems foolish to think that neither the SEC nor B1G would jump on that audience/revenue. They may not be willing to bend over backwards for it, but they won't pass up the opportunity if presented with it.
FSU and Clemson will be in the "Birds Seat" when the gates open for their exit. Do you think the SEC and B10 are going to conspire and leave them in the dark? Do you think those two schools don't know their market value? School and Conference presidents don't care about FSU being a disrupter. CFB fans don't care about FSU being a disrupter. It's understood, a premier program will strive to align itself with other highly successful schools. To suggest FSU would accept 75% or 50% share for entry is ludicrous. FSU's brand and TV revenue is tops in the country. Have no doubt, they'll come knocking with glass slippers.
This is the same thing that was said just before Washington & Oregon were added. Everybody is crazy to think that fsu will pay $100 million to get out of the acc to go to the big 12.
It would truly be a stupid move!
Same thing was said before Texas and Oklahoma jumped to the SEC too.
Meanwhile, Clemson is just back there, hiding behind our coat tails waiting for it to be safe to come out.
We are fatigued about all this. But I trust our legal folks and FSU administrators are on top of this.
They're not being very good at it. The reputation of FSU, a great institution, is being trashed in public. They're being called "disruptive" due to how they're going about this move. Do they not understand Jim Phillips' reputation in the Big 10 and how their attacks on him are backfiring in the eyes of Big 10 members? There is a reason USC and Texas made their moves secret and quick and not in the fashion that the Noles are going about it.
😂😂😂 doesn’t make financial sense? 😂 that’s like saying, “I don’t think she’s THAT pretty” but as soon as they break up that same guy is texting to be there for them after the break up! That is exactly what it is.
If the SEC or Big 10 were looking to add FSU and Clemson, these leaks would not come from them. You don't besmirch the reputation of a future member with these rumors. You also don't allow the other Power 2 conference to say "like the stories said, we didn't want them because it didn't make financial sense and their broken relationships, etc etc". Anyone who works in marketing knows the 5 to 1 PR rule to rebuild a reputation. Your membership reflects your conference's image and you wouldn't trash that of a future member's.
Makes perfect sense. You’re right. They wouldn’t put all the hate out there is fsu was going to be a future member.
Money talks
Don't compare any of those reputable people to greg swaim 😂😅
They did the same with Oklahoma and Tex and look what happened. No one brings up how they said the same thing…
First, FSU and Clemson have not left the ACC yet and are not in position to join elsewhere. Both have opened lawsuits challenging the GOR but are still members of the ACC.
The next likely move is to for both schools to declare their intentions for the 2025 season. The lawsuits will move forward in months to come and likely start to answer questions, it could be a year as independents before things get clarity but it will end eventually and settled. Once there is clarity things will move forward with the conferences.
Bottom line, the conferences are not ready to make statements as to adding members. People need to stop trying to be the news breaking source and let things develop.
I'm in the FSU, and Clemson, will be in the P2 in 2026, plus or minus 1 year. Nothing else makes sense.
agreed.
Very good takes here. Both of the P2 must have plausible deniability. My only beef is "not understanding" why FSU is a disruptor. When they leave the ACC, the floodgates will open. And what remains of the ACC will be drastically less valuable than it is now. This tends to piss off those who don't have a lifeboat. The B12's ire at Texas (and OU) has been muted by Yormark's leadership...and the fact that the B12 is making more money now than ever before.
Very insightful comment, I’m glad to have someone share some of my own thoughts. It does set precedence for something that could irritate ESPN down the road as well. It could be in the monopoly’s best interest to make an example of this and watch us flounder. That I’d be curious to hear your guys thought on
Thankfully, our monetary value and the conference war works to our advantage. We are worth more to bring into a conference than to be an example for schools who step out line
We’re being used as easy scapegoats. Simple as that. Lazy reporters from e$ECpn, feeding a slow news cycle.
BigTen and SEC just don't want to get sued by ACC therefore they have to say they are "not interested" because their lawyers said so...
denial by conferences is to avoid tortuous interference with contract!!!!!!
Florida State and Miami will both be invited to the BIG 10.
Those big 12 jokes about Miami hittin different now
Not if FSU can get paid
The Big 12 doesn’t have the money. And, it’s highly unlikely a “private equity firm” is going to invest 100’s of millions into a dying conference like the Big 12
@@r.guardia9107 I guess we will jus have to wait and see cause FSU is looking fir the same money that UF is getting
😂😂Well, there’s a reason the names FSU and Clemson are always attached to this and not Miami.
@@FSUNoles02023 attached to wat, cuz it ain’t da big 10 or SEC as yall thought 😂🤣
All of this is smoke and mirrors.
ESPN can't pay the schools in the SEC more cause there loosing money on everything except college football. College football is by far there biggest product
Great video and I am wondering if you are going to present an interview of the FSU soccer head coach again this late summer before the season starts? Thanks.
I'll request it! Tried to get him last year and timing just didn't work.
@@DoubleFriesNoSlaw Would enjoy and good luck!
I refuse to believe FSU is stupid. I also believe that if we truly weren’t going anywhere but the power 2, people wouldn’t keep talking about us. Be patient!
The bottom line is that none of us know what will happen. My guess is that once the ACC folds, the talk will all change for a lot of the ACC schools.
We need to just win the lawsuit and let the cards fall where they fall. Enough teams may leave the ACC after we win the lawsuit that a new conference could be formed.
What happens is what happens
Good Luck in Big12 Noles-Cowboys! Hope Yarrmark treats you like his Darling. What a blast watching UnC gets its SeC invites, while FSU goes to little boy FB in Big12.
The situation with Washington and Oregon was that B1G didn't want to be the reason that Pac-12 broke up and didn't want to expose themselves to potential lawsuits. When Colorado made the first move to leave and other 3 of four corners were about to leave, the opportunity came for B1G to offer and grab those two.
Turns out that Kevin Warren, previous B1G commissioner wanted to pursue all 4 schools (UW, UO, UCLA, USC), but that would have resulted in Pac-12 collapse, so that idea was nixed. Then it was decided to pursue the two S Cal schools instead. As soon as UCLA and USC announced to leave, UW and UO reached out and were vetted by the B1G and FOX for membership. All was needed was an opportunity.
My guess is B1G and SEC is waiting for someone from ACC to make the first move to absolve themselves from the blame of breaking up the conference. Then they will swoop in and pick up the teams it wants. What's unfortunately for FSU and Clemson is that they might be the ones to force the issue, which potentially comes with legal issues that B1G & SEC may not want to touch. But it could be an opportunity for B1G to swoop in and pick up UNC (& Virginia?) when it happens.
Washington and Oregon were not going to the big ten until they offered to take 50% shares. So no this is a very different situation than that news.
@@willn851 UW and UO weren't going to B1G until George Kliavkoff absolutely tanked on the Apple Streaming deal. If it was even a half way decent deal, remaining Pac-12 teams may have stayed together.
UW/UO will gets full share post season and 0% interest loan from B1G/FOX to make up for some of the difference. Even at 50% media share, the schools will still make roughly double what they make at Pac-12 annually.
For a life boat kind of a deal, it could be much worse.
Just accept it, no ridiculous theory that SeC saying no invite for FSU to SeC really means we want you and will negotiate. Double Fries No slaw needs therapy if this conspiracy is truly believed.
As a Michigan B1G fan, I'm very disappointed Texas and Oklahoma chose the SEC. Living in Texas now, Im all in on A&M joining as being THE solid Texas representative. A much needed and great expansion market.
I think that the SEC and Big10 are “FULL”. If they get any bigger you end up with a Conference where teams rarely play each other.
There was an article written that said they would both like to have 20 teams a piece and be the 2 major conferences.
Nothing matters until FSU either wins its lawsuit or settle and pay the buyout. The BXIIX doesn’t make any sense because they pay out about the same amount of money the ACC does. This whole issue is about money. It’s either the SEC. B10 . Or Independent.
Michael Alford airing his grievances about the ACC didn’t help either.
I have said this from the beginning. FSU will find a spot the day they leave the ACC just like any player that goes into free agency, they will land a spot that day or within a few days. Financially the Big10 needs FSU to tap the Southeast, SEC wants FSU to keep the SE market...either way FSU has a spot. Whoever has the better deal and the school needs to look long term not short term deal when that happens.
Could FSU make more money as independent?
🤣 The delusion is priceless.
@@MK-ps2jp moronic take
So, maybe this is a stupid question…why doesn’t FSU become an Independent like Notre Dame? Maybe get their own tv deal like the Irish has NBC broadcast all their games? Can they do that? Just trying to think outside the box…
All these assholes just want to believe that FSU will end up in Big12 because they know what will happen when the playing field is evened out.
Absolutely nothing. FSU doesn't recruit well enough to be good in the SEC or B1G so FSU would be a perennial mid tier team
@@basedjiren3889 your an id***, FSU ranked top five in recruiting throughout Jimbo years, Norvell finished 11th last year. When we were on an even playing field FSU consistently finished top 3, good coach and resources and FSU will always be a force to in recruiting. People know if u give FSU SEC/Big10 money the recruiting will be top 5 without even breaking a sweat which is why these media pundits have been losing their sh** since the jump.😂
@@basedjiren3889hmmm. Interesting that FSU is sitting in top 10 in recruiting ranking right now with a 92% blue chip ratio. FSUs recruiting has gotten better every year under HCMN. Sans UGA, FSU beat every SEC school they played last year. I would put them on par with LSU which IMO isn’t a middle of the pack SEC school. Then again maybe you’re right, but there is only one way to find out.
@@basedjiren3889 "doesnt recruit well" is just blasphemy. FSU has had 14 top 10 classes since 2002. with currently #7 for 2025 and #1 for 2026 (so far). They've recruited 58 5 star players since 2000 lol. they had the most of all programs from 2000-2017, yes even more than Bama, in that time frame. Thats such bologna of you to say without anything to back it up js. FSU recruiting would benefit being in the SEC or B10. Bigger brand, more NIL capabilities, better exposure. minus the 5 year dark ages stretch from 2018-2022 FSU has been a powerhouse program since the 80's
63-3
Not worried ... I think the P2 have an idea of FSU's appeal and tv draw ... we will be fine. I would rather go Independent and hash out some tv contracts than join the B12 or go back to the ACC.
FSU did the math before the lawsuits. The math says staying in the ACC is not an option. They fall further behind each year. They will leave, but where? Even if the Big10 calls the payout will not be a full share based on Oregon/Washington payment structure. I think all 3 conferences are possibilities. Side note, it’s amazing NC & Virginia are rumored to be SEC bound. Eyeballs and on field success certainly don’t warrant that. So why? Politics and other factors. Not on field success, not viewership, both of which FSU is far better than those mentioned. That’s what I’m sure raises the ire of FL St fans.
As far as tampering, the trail of direct contact will not be there. These people are far smarter than 99.9% on UA-cam, they know the lines.
Ego aside, honest question to FSU fans. Would you rather be in the Big10 or SEC as the 7th/8th team in the media pecking order or in the Big12 as the 1st or 2nd? Would you rather be independent with a limited media deal and limited CFP path?
Finally, they would make far more in the Big12 than current payouts. That’s why the PE is being discussed.
PREACH!!!!
From THE CAPITOLIST NEWS, July 17,2024: "Elsewhere, Florida State University's (FSU) efforts to leave the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) may be hindered as the Big Ten and SEC reportedly lack interest in adding the university, citing financial disincentives, no desire for expansion, and concerns over FSU's reputation as a disruptive partner."
ESPN is tapped out. The SEC expanded with Texas and OU and they didn’t get an increase. SEC teams are not happy about that move by Sankie
LOL, have you seen the payout structure for the SEC over the next 5 years? Projected to be 74 million per team in 2027 and 100 million per team in 2029. Tapped out? Hahaha. LOL, those unhappy SEC presidents you mentioned, yeah they just gave Sankey a raise and extended his contract for another 4 years. Let’s try to at least keep this real. ESPN had great revenue numbers in 2023 and 2024 has been better than last year so far. Wait till you see the revenue ESPN will make from the CFP 12 team playoff. Again, let’s at least try to keep this real.
@@jansonroberts2616 Soooooo why wouldn’t the SEC add them? My Answer is Money
@@portisforpresident4535 The SEC and B1G have just added schools. Haven’t even played a game yet as new members. Neither conference is adding right now. Both conferences have said that they want to focus on who they have now and get them settled in. I’m not saying that the SEC or B1G won’t eventually add anyone. I’m saying that they aren’t adding anyone right now. If I had to guess, at some point, in a few years, both the B1G and SEC will reopen for business, as Bret Yomark likes to say. If we listen to what has been said by the commissioners themselves instead of “insiders”, both have said they are not recruiting schools or looking to expand at this time but want to focus on their current members and the opportunities that this presents. No actual mention of rejecting anyone specific nor did either say that they would never add schools again. They only said that they aren’t interested in adding right now. A little time, things can and will change.
There is always the American Athletic Conference! 😂
Where was all the squaking when the SEC and Big 10 stole teams from the BIG 12 and Pack 12????
Fact is even joining the Big12 with Clemson, Louisville, VT, Miami & NCST is still better than the ACC.
No one wants to play BC, WF, SMU, Syracuse, CAL & Stanford.
Notre Dame is the major chip on the table!!
if the Big Ten passes on FSU and Clemson and add UNC and Virginia they should be renamed The Pussy Conference. From a Buckeye fan.
What if the acc and fsu are currently in mediation and they are putting this out so it drives the settlement price up. 🤔🤔 probably not likely but fun to think about
"Massive leaks" I can't stand when these guys use these misleading headlines for click bait. I thought this guy was legit. I'll stick to the more reputable outlets.
Summer filler. FSU will be in the Big 10 eventually.
Well, really though, if I was a FSU person, I’d be really upset. Why didn’t the SEC guy say this 6-9 months ago? Same for Big Ten. Why would you let it (talk/gossip) go this long? Crazy.
What happened to all that inside info you had?
Fsu being one of the top viewed programs in the country in the acc will explode in the SEC...not big 10 and big 12. Fsu viewership, attendance, and reciprocated economical benefits for the SEC and its cities , tallahassee, and all fsu athletic programs will mutually thrive financially and that's common sense.... they will be and should be in the SEC and it's going to be awesome
OMG the B1G is already too big. I keep losing regular games against teams we've played for a 100+ years.
Please have a long-term plan before going to 20, 22, 24, etc.
FSU + Miami to B1G Ten would be epic. I don’t see the fit for Clemson even though a great program.
Why do people keep putting FSU and Miami together. I believe that FSU would not request Miami to be included. Miami even voted to sue FSU.
As a B1G alumnus Miami has zero appeal as a private school. They aren't USC or ND and they have no connection with the conference.
Big state schools that have some level of academics and research are the targets.
If we go thru all this to go to the big 12. I'm done! Been a fan since 84!
Why is Clemson included in all of this. Big10 and SEC folks never said they didn’t want them. This is all FSU. Clemson hasn’t screwed up relationships like people are saying FSU did. Clemson will be fine. Today was only about FSU and how they are “disruptive” “their” words. Not Clemson.
PE money with TNT Sports.....unequal sharing....possible! Not a long term solution. Could get us by until the super league though!!!
FSU is full of its self, what have they done lately that makes them think they are that good!
is there some kind of a contract between the conferences that they will not tamper?
Yes, but that is defined as direct contact. I'm certain that back door discussions have happened.
I think everybody watching this is smart enough to realize that the SEC and the Big Ten have to say these things because Florida State and Clemson are still in the ACC. Pretty simple, I can see why the SEC wouldn’t want Florida State and Clemson. They already have teams and those states but the big 10 needs to get into the south so I’m not buying anything these School Presidents’ say
IF/when FSU gets out, then we'll see. All this other talk is just that...
As soon as he said disruptive partner I knew it was a garbage.
FBA/B1
You should have known ESPN is behind this!!!
TJ hyping McMurphy's fake news so we all forget his epic fail yesterday.
More streaming tonight! Lol
If all goes the way you are suggesting, does fsu have legal recourse against all the “fake news” headliners that are looking for clicks?
Doubtful. Lot of media protections and I’m sure B1G & SEC ppl are saying that.
@Tj….what percentage of your reporting is hope vs factual knowledge?
I try to represent it by saying when it’s either one.
My belief (based on several hours of conversations) is still that FSU lands in Power 2. I don’t know beyond a shadow of a doubt (nobody does) but I try to be informed.
Josh Pate on his new video late last night. One high ranking administrator from the B1G told Josh about FSU, "They will never come here".
You know the saying, "When you're in a hole, stop digging?" You should stop digging. Some of us warned you that you were overselling FSU's chances of going to the B1G or SEC and provided reasons why. Now you look foolish.
Neither Clemson nor FSU will ever end up in the SEC or Big10. Big12 or bust boys 😂
Big12 with Clemson,Louisville, VT & Miami is could be way better than the Acc
And still much worse than the B10 or SEC.
Go NOLES 🔥🏈🏆
So it's official. FSU and Clemson to the ACC.
What? They are in the ACC and trying to get out.
Big 12 bound
H.S. Freak Out !!!
weren't you a 100% that we were not going to be left out of the playoff? do you think that maybe we fans are so bias towards FSU, maybe we fans value our brand more than nonfans, I don't know maybe these guys don't want us? after the snub anything is possible
Very disruptive,
Playoff snub, 63-3, now SEC and Big 10 say they don't want troublemaker noles. 😅😅😅 GO CANES!
Things are a bit weird though! On one hand you have lawyers and beat guys saying all this happens sooner rather than later then on the other hand you have other lawyers saying ACC has absolutely no reason to settle and has the upper hand on both FSU and Clemson. The later makes more sense honestly. Why would they settle? Just keep dragging this on and on and on.
Rumors have it that both the Big Ten and SEC want to add the Tar Heels before any other school
Lol
So you don't believe the lawyer you had on said the acc wins in court ? or are you speculating the pay a big settlement to get out ?
I've always thought this would be a settlement - as did both attorneys we had on the show.
When has a lawyer ever said the ACC wins? I swear people just make shit up
@@DoubleFriesNoSlaw Do you think these latest reports being made may affect any settlement deal with the ACC?
This McMurphy thing sounds like nails in the casket. It’s over. Maybe time time to call Boise State and see what it takes to get in the Mountain West. FSU could be group of 5 team to get in the playoffs.
Get ready to learn Truck Stop fellas. Embrace America’s Conference, the Big 12
Brett seems pretty definitive that 100% of everyone he spoke to said they DON'T want FSU and hate the way the Nokes have handled this ACC situation.
This guy is humiliating fsu. Instead having some class and sportmanship hes acting like a baby. Is this the type of guy you want representing your fanbase? Now fsu looks like a bunch disloyal contract breakers...unreliable partners. Better growup and start acting like adults.
Cry more
Maybe if the ACC did right by FSU instead kissing Tobacco Road Azz , you wouldn’t have had your worry a contract breakup , if you had a brain you would know that FSU is doing all this so they can compete at the highest level
@@DoubleFriesNoSlaw you have issues.
@@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3rGFY troll
Actually the acc filed suit first. Fsu responded.
Now Clemson on the other hand sued the acc first.
Florida State fans are so delusional. The program is not that special. It's not the early 90s. I don't even want them in Big 12. Rather have Pitt, and Louisville
Sure Jan
Yeah....Those 2 teams are really great 😂
@@RepoGuy513 pitt and Louisville....I'd hate to see the chicks you try to date
@@butterbookhe’s a repo grease ball. Says it all in the name.
Awe, somebody feelings got butt hurt 😂😂😂
It's almost like MAYBE going scorched earth is never a good idea. Enjoy that MAC (Big 12) invite 😂
My God brother, your homerism knows no bounds. The Mega 2 will consolidate but only on their time frame. FSU has spent the last year plus trying its best to force the BIG10 and SEC to make a play before they are ready, like what happened with the PAC12. The huge difference is FSU doesn't have ownership of its media rights which why the lawsuits are happening. The only way FSU forces the hand of the Mega 2 is when it has its media rights in tow, but even that may not be enough if FSU is the lone defector. Only a full implosion of the ACC will trigger a premature power grab by the MEGA 2. I think the BIG10 and SEC would be totally ok with leaving a lone FSU out in cold for years while they prepare for the ACC's demise and why the BIG12 for a temporary FSU shelter is being talked about. The BIG12 knows this but are so desperate for any chance at relevance that it would sell its league to private equity to accommodate FSU. FSU is so head strong that it can force the ACCs Armageddon that its willing to do anything even being forced to slum in the BIG12 for a chance at getting into the MEGA 2 early. Clemson was even willing to file a lawsuit in hopes of showing its support for blowing up the ACC but are not willing to go as far as FSU's "MEGA2 or Bust" gamble. UNC sees the bigger picture and will jump when the time is right. UNC is reading the room and realizes that this probably is not going to happen anytime soon but will be ready to jump when it does. FSU is like the spoiled little brat at Walmart willing to throw all manner of fit to get that shiny new toy but will likely end up with a bruised butt and having to wait with its nose in the Big12 corner, yuck. Meanwhile FSU is truly a degusting example of a conference partner and I for one will be glad for them to take their whiny butts anywhere else and hope they pay nose for the pleasure.
tldr?
Lol lots of words but no knowledge
First
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This is so so delicious :)
FSU is finally starting to realize that they are not who they think they are. Karma is such a bitch.
I can’t wait until we get to the end of the season, FSU finishes 4th in the ACC and FSU is begging the Big 12 to get in. Can’t wait to see them lose to SMU in Dallas in September… Pony ^
It’s very simple it’s your arrogance, -- good luck with little boy fb in the NOT p2. And no way are you gonna ride a UnC backpack into the SeC.
Supposedly fsu was given the nod and then they decided to sue but a lot smoke out there saying that offer has been pulled and now fsu is left with millions and millions of lawyers fees and maybe nowhere to go but the big 12 maybe.
Sec and B10 wouldn’t spend this much time having people besmirch a future member’s name. OU/Texas names weren’t besmirched by Sec members and UCLA/USC’s names weren’t by the B10
Maybe the Big12 wouldn’t be to bad an option for FSU, should make playoff at least every other year or so
Easier path in the sec or b10. Can lose 3-4 games in those conferences and still make the bloated 12 team format
Big 12 soon ? 😮
These arent the ype of reports that come out if the B1G or SEC wants FSU. This isnt "we are good with our current group of teams" or "We havent had any discussions with Florida State" type reports. This is scorched Earth they arent worth the headache reports and it just goes to show you that we were right when we told you that this would happen. Lmao couldnt have happened to a better group of fans
Sounds like you're in your feelings about the Big12. Like your show, but realignment is all about timing/money.
Bad timing for FSU, good timing for Big1
What do you guys get your information Clemson going to Big ten or the Southeast conference the same old bulshit for the last how many months 6 or 7 months stop saying the same old s***
Fact is even joining the Big12 with Clemson, Louisville, VT, Miami & NCST is still better than the ACC.
No one wants to play BC, WF, SMU, Syracuse, CAL & Stanford.
I look at it this way , would you rather have yormark or Phillips in charge . I know my answer would be yormark
No one wants to play Colorado, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Arizona, Arizona State, UCF, Baylor, BYU, damm near every team. FSU might as well stay in the ACC