Report Reveals Why The Big Ten And SEC DON'T WANT Florida State | Why NC State Can Win The ACC
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Brett McMurphy from Action Network reports that the Big Ten and SEC are not interested in adding Florida State and Clemson. On FSU, his sources say it doesn’t make financial sense, those conference are done expanding for now, and they consider Florida State to be a “disruptive partner.” According to the report, the SEC or Big Ten would only add the Seminoles in the event of the ACC completely falling apart, making them free agents.
Hosts Alex Donno and Kenton Gibbs wonder if McMurphy’s sources have reason to not be entirely truthful about the situation. Perhaps they are downplaying FSU as part of a negotiating ploy or dismissing them in order to avoid tampering charges. If the report is fully true, this would be very bad news for the Seminoles. Donno and Gibbs preview the NC State Wolfpack for the upcoming football season. NC State can rely on a solid defense, but people are sleeping on their offense after adding QB Grayson McCall, WR Noah Rogers and RB Jordan Waters.
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Sounds like someone has a bad idea of fsu and Clemson value outside of the acc
Ask LSU the last two years about FSU
@@jasonbooth94 Ask Alabama about Clemson
FSU is a top 10 program in national viewership. Actually, #7 in 2023. More than even ND. And, certainly more than Miami.
FSU won 3 games in 2020? Still inside the top 15.
Fsu brings in more national viewership than 85 % of the Big Ten and Sec combined.
So yea, they have value.
Still don’t want you in the big ten especially after losing your first two games.
Bombshell? Are you that naive? It's all legal talk. FSU is a win for any conference. Without a doubt!!! We fill stadiums and we generate eyeballs on TV. Find something of value to talk about. I am moving on!
Not for the big ten. Better off getting Miami for the academics and Miami market.
What Kenton said at the 08:30 mark is what I have felt for a while.
So there’s been the latest buzz about Big 12 “could” be a landing spot for FS/Clemson. The original point made was the first choice for them was B1G and SEC and 2nd choice is a revamped ACC. So my question is why is no one considering that if they win the lawsuits, then FSU/Clemson/NCSU/dirty foot club/Duke/Miami/louisville/etc can create a new conference and the remainder would truly be the ACC turning into the AAC
😂😂 “dirty foot club” 😂😂 I’m a TarHeel born and raised and never heard that one! Touché wolfy✌🏾
@@trb250 ha! I can’t claim credit for that! Credit goes to Kenton Gibbs!
ya, Vandy and N'western making 80 mil a year for showing up, FSU makes 40 and 4 years ago the gap was ... 7 mil?? hmmmm
new CFP playoff deal...base payout- FSU 13 mil
Illinois, Rutgers, IOWA - 23 mil what?
we've won 3 nattys and just got jackjawed from the playoffs and were undefeated... and we are 10 mil behind schools that have never even dreamed of making the playoff...or care
hmm, maybeee theres something broken here?
Oh And add this, every big10 school is getting 23 mil a year from espn for ... nothing , existing?.... our base guarantee pay from ACC Contract is 24 million....for an entire regular season.
FSU total athletic Rev - 105 mil, spend 80 on football. 40 from the ACC ... only clem/fsu/miami spend more than 40 on football. the 40 is covering BC/syracuse/gtch/wake their entire **** athletic department.
90% of our teams make the playoff every year, we dont have a ton of sports but if we have one, we try to win titles. its part of our identity.
f****** all the acc, right where they want it. its disgusting, we are the only team to win a natty with a football program started after ww2 and we have 3. we started as a womens college! we are a young school.
this isnt about money, the blue bloods have had effectievly unlimited money forever and weve survived. we will never get there, we dont care, we just want a chance in hell to survive
Preach it
@@lucasparham5068 im totally fed up with this BS. The ACC is in with the trash school AD's because its an existential risk. its completely backwards. i didnt even mention the 22 mil in rev share now required to compete. and what will that number be in 2 years. WE TRIED to offer unequal rev share, they got so mad, the president of the acc was called back in to the closed door meeting because the AD's were getting in our face for even asking.
the cabal masquerading as a conference were the ones who wouldnt negotiate, it wasnt us, we tried and got laughed out of the room. these schools. the schools use their athletics to entertain socially, spots for influential peoples kids, ego/tradition - the alumni dgaf about it but if you try to rip it away? they will act like its their favorite toy. its school pride. the AD's are casino hosts, its all a facade to pump donation to the school.
This is why no one wants FSU. Unrealistic view of how good you are. You had one chance to represent for the ACC and you failed and got smacked by UGA. Now go ahead and give us every excuse in the world why that happened...excuses loading...
@@falcn828 yeah we def didnt beat lsu two years in a row as underdogs and auburn for the natty, ole miss, florida, countless sec schools
our entire identity was on the line with Georgia...with walk ons as 2nd string. ya know we should have lobbed a call into norvell to let him know. so embarrassing
@@Scotty-thrive-tribe oh I'm excited! The excuse have arrived...ONE CHANCE
I would love to see everyone stay in ACC and redo TV deal.
The Acc contract was signed like 8 years ago. A lot has changed since then.
The 40 million dollar deficit from Sec payout and Acc payout didn’t exist back then. If it did, FSU, Clemson and Miami would have probably looked elsewhere.
It was much easier when you was independent with no league. I watched WVU when i was a kid they did good with out a league. Then they join the Big East and it's been down hill ever since. Got shipped out to the Big 12 where they can't win nothing.
SMU has out recruited all of the big 12 3rd in ACC
miami, clemson, FSU
Then, stay in the ACC and enjoy your experience there. If SMU is better than all of the Big 12, there is no need to join the conference.
Summer clickbait
The Super league is 5-6. Yrs away, timing is everything!
Disruptive Partner = it’s like a star WR in the NFL who’s contract isn’t renewed, and nobody will touch them with a ten foot pole because their attitude, mouthiness, and public antics create a poison in the locker room, and headaches for management. FSU’s attitude and approach throughout this is burning their own bridge. Clemson’s way of handling their business is going to put them in a better landing place because of it.
Hey guys, all this Big Ten SEC does not want FSU or Clemson are great talking points for a show. But the reality behind all this is that the disruption FSU and Clemson have made in the courts does not happen if both of them if they do not already have a behind closed doors agreement with one of those conferences, so there was a time when the SEC did say they had no interest in Texas and we saw what happened. So it makes for great conversations, but the reality is FSU and Clemson are too big of brands to not have a landing spot!
Alex & Kenton, are the only ones using common sense on this topic. Love this channel!
Thank you
Listen these people only care if FSU can make them money period y’all just trying to make a show cmon bruh!
But if you actually read the article FSU won't make them money. Lol!
Oh, ok slick. Because a top 10 school in national viewership…in the 4th largest state would definitely be a problem 😂
@@r.guardia9107 Read the article and stop parroting. FSU is not top 10 in viewership if you average out over a 10 year period. FSU finished 15th just in 2022. FSU barely finished 9th last year going undefeated.
FSU was 15th in 2020 while only winning 3 games slick. FSU was #7 in 2023.
Read the article? 😂
Unless the word comes from the Big 10 OR Sec it’s nothing to take seriously.
Bet you still leave cookies for Santa ? 😂
SEC Greg Sankey :
"Georgia was one of the best four teams (in the nation) and didn't get in (the Playoff). But you didn't see us jumping up and down and complaining and hanging national championship banners."
🤣 🤣 🤣
Cause they lost the only game all year that mattered 😂🤡🤦🏼♂️
63-3 "Unconquered."
@@rx2878that was Greg Sankey taking a shot at four different universities on four different occasions in Florida State, UCF, TCU, and Ohio State. You might add Boise State undefeated seasons in the mix and the whining years of pagan propagandist Moron Mormons BYU being excluded from BCS and upper level bowl games but once they made changes to the College Football Postseason Selections for BCS era and NY6/CFP-4 era, they never ever came close to qualifying for a BCS bowl or NY6 bowl, yet added to Big12. Why?
But as the other commenter said, Georgia lost to Alabama in a game they could not afford to lose. Georgia schedule was less or equal to that of Florida State and had too many close calls to justify putting Georgia and Alabama in the playoffs.
This is going to sound conspiracy theorist crazy, but I think many people were expecting Texas to face plant in their conference championship game against Oklahoma State or Florida State take a L from the Louisville. But neither happened.
Now the committee were consistent contrary to what most people think or been saying on social media and on stations and channels across the country. SMU like FSU in second to last regular season games and in conference championship game lost starting quarterback and others but won the conference championship game anyway. So like FSU not getting selected for playoffs, SMU with similar to identical injuries to same players was not selected for NY6 and placed Liberty in with a weaker schedule but won the right to get clobbered.
FSU actually had a tougher schedule and better schedule than Georgia but not better than but equal to Alabama and weaker than Texas, Washington, & Michigan.
@@michaelwall3393 michigan had virtually same schedule strength as fsu and won it all. Sos isnt as important as people think. Winning when it matters is.
If the SEC or Big 10 wanted these schools, they would have them and help them out. Don’t think they can’t. They don’t want them. FSU and Clemson should want to go to the Big 12. Why not go where you’re celebrated vs tolerated.
I see relegation within the power conferences before 2030, if not, their will be top teams that break away to form their own league. FSU is going to get paid by someone, I just don't think it will be the Big 10. Football brings in millions, but research is shared in Big 10 & brings in billions.
"DADGUMMIT!!!"
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🤦🏾♂️ yall are completely missing the point… these commissioners are making sure they don’t get tampering charges… PERIOD
The P2 can't come out and say they are interested! Torturous interference! When they are free of the acc the B1G will have first party talks and so will the sec!
😂
Off-season CFB media=Fooder
Perfectly analyzed
My first thought is...If the ACC wasn't such a weak & pathetic conference and knew how to negotiate with the networks they wouldn't be in legal battles with their 2 strongest football brands. The member schools hadn't counted on the ACC falling so far behind in revenues and prestige. If the ACC represented the member school luke they bring lawsuits for them wanting to leave you probably would have teams heading to the exit door!!!
Either Clem or FSU will have 1 loss in the Conf... and they have the two hardest schedules in the Conf except for GT and Miami is right behind them.. might open the door for NCST, L'ville, or VT!!
Kenton is freaking delusional. So hard to watch.
UNC-CHeats the only team with a guaranteed spot. SEC next move will be to improve basketball, they already have football.
Fs and Clemson best bet is independent. If they are that good there are networks that will pay. Acc exist long before fs joined and i can't see the acc breaking up when they do. We live in an age that football is boss, and teams wing now has a lot to say. However, it take a teams to make a conference. Unfortunately the teams winning now are taking all the glory, that they are making all the money for the conference.
Espn started this mess paying the SEC big money, if i was the ACC commish i would make them pay a better amount closer to the SEC, or give me back my tier 2 to resale. CW would pay more, network such as prime, tnt, tbs and apple all want sports. Big ten is not making money off tox, it was when cbs and nvc step in and add on to what fox was paying for tier 1. Big 12 screwed up , rushing out to make a deal and never thought about getting 3 or more net works. When acc contract review comes up in 26 i would ask for more fund and a game to sell to other networks.
Bro. This is the Smartest comment here. Finally a smart person.
The big-12 is also messing up with private equity market volatility can sink them easily.
Also what other Insurance companies want to advertise on the same network as an Allstate 12 game?
@@rx2878 You're certainly not a smart person.
@@encycl07pedia- g00fy
So FSU and Clemson want be a part of the super conference because that is coming.
😂
The ACC will not risk going to court. This has to settle. It’s the only thing that can ensure the conference doesn’t fold by a loss in court.
Why do they not address the ESPN extension renewal pass 2027 is due by Feb 2025. Meaning that an exit fee is drastically reduced to 1-2 years, instead of the 2036 year that they keep representing.
We all know the GOR is tied specifically to the ESPN media deal. Why would ESPN want to extend it if there’s a risk that FSU and Clemson will leave. Either ESPN will walk away, or the ACC can use this to get more money out of ESPN to get all the ACC teams more money and raise FSU and Clemson payout. But to just say that let’s wait until 2036, it just shows how bad of a Commissioner Jim Phillips really is.
A coach said that ( meaning 1 ) probably Florida
It’s Georgia, they dnt want to have to battLE FSU for South Georgia
@@Almighty5-ww1kl yeah it was Georgia , Florida & South Carolina the last time FSU was trying to get into the SEC . So that sounds about right
@@CGolden-tm2bu it had to take some more teams because you can be voted in if 12 members say yes , I thank it’s Auburn too
IMHO, FSU was on the glide path to the B1G, but burned bridges to the point that the B1G won't take them. Their legal attacks against Cal/Stanford created division, ending their chance at AAU membership. While not required to join, B1G wants new members on a path towards it. They've burned enough relationships and created incentives to keep them out, they may not cross the 2/3 membership threshold. This is all about $$ and more would come from BTAA/AAU than a media deal.
Lots of words without much sense. FSU doesn’t have any beef with anyone besides the ACC
@@jasonbooth94 Keep telling yourself that... They went after two prominent AAU members directly who have strong allegiances with other members. If you don't think that will have an impact on AAU voting and don't understand how academic politics works, then I cannot help you. Read between the lines of why B12 talk has become so prominent recently.
@@toast803 Rutgers? Ok 🤡
@@jasonbooth94 You mean the Rutgers doing $1B+ in research as a AAU member vs.
FSU didn’t take legal action against Cal and Stanford😂
FSU simply does not matter.
Not to the SEC.
Not a priority to the B1G.
This is what matters :
1. NEWS: House v. NCAA settlement will not be submitted for court approval today, as originally planned.
Plaintiffs' lawyer Jeffrey Kessler:
"NCAA and conferences have been "extraordinarily slow" in finalizing long-form deal."
2: A US Dept of Education official said #TitleIX rules will apply to future revenue dollars that schools share with NCAA athletes, but the department declined to offer guidance on how schools should distribute the money to comply with the law via
@espn
3. FCS school challenges House v. NCAA settlement proposal
Jun 21, 2024 - Houston Christian University filed a motion to intervene in the House v. NCAA lawsuit on Thursday.
4. U.S. appeals court ruling leaves open possibility of college athletes being considered employees
Florida State University is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Absolutely Nobody. Stop appeasing the egos.
You're making FSU'S point. The outcome of these court cases will likely change the way these games are financed. It will likely be so influential that schools outside of the power conferences won't be able to compete. Then, schools like Vanderbilt and Mississippi State will overpower schools like FSU and OK State.
The case against conferences like the big 12 and acc is that there are schools that want to compete nationally that will ultimately be phased out of they don't take these financial decisions seriously.
FSU won't be the only school to be locked out of the new order, but they'll certainly be the biggest!
@@Katavicta
You still don't get it. There is a wide variation of uncertainty taking place in the administration of overall college sports...even then these issues are tertiary compared to macro issues effecting the economy of college and universities.
The Judge overseeing this NCAA case is from the Northern California district. You surely don't understand the significance of that or that the overall appearance instability caused by college football decisions doesn't bode well for any conference. This case is about the compensation of student athletes not the preservation of a college football hierarchy.
She may rule that the proposed settlement is insufficient or inequitable to schools like Houston Christian easily. Doubling the burden share on the power conferences. All of these events are more important than FSU grievances.
The B1G and other conferences may choose to close down expansion to keep enough profit for, liabilities, unions, title IX or protect themselves from the legalities.
FSU can be left out because they are the headache...that's not worth another headache.
No school is entitled to "compete."
No school is entitled to be in a conference. Oregon state & Washington state are not in a conference even though Washington state could make the argument that they have been accustomed to being in a conference for over a century. That's 100 years. There are hundreds of FBS and FCS schools legally all the same.
College football is not that important in the grand scheme of things. college football is not a legal right.
lol. Cause Miss St, vandy, USC, Kentucky generate so much tv viewers
@rx2878 as much as I agree with the uncertainty, as well as these being "more important than FSU grievances", the FSU claim is that the ACC is not taking the steps necessary to mitigate these changes by being more aggressive with fund raising, and it has plagued the conference and it's members for years. These actions have resulted in a vote of no confidence that the ACC could manage the changing landscape of college athletics, whether or not the ACC remains a power conference. As a matter of fact, the ACC just signed a document this summer that shows the ACC isn't functioning aggressively for higher revenues that would certainly affect: profits (though conferences are non-profit entities), liabilities, unions, title 9, legalities, etc. You're right about another thing, these university presidents might suggest they close up shop, but they might also see there's tons of money to be made by each university that must pay athletes as state employees. That would require someone to do the math to see what is an appropriate wage, per university or per conference, and what would a players association be empowered to do. All the while ensuring diversity, equity, and inclusion according to title 9 and the protections and engagements for enforcement. Would that be handled as it is now, at the individual institutions, or at the conference level? Either way, FSU is trying to be proactive rather than sit and wait like the conference is.
I completely agree with you that FSU doesn’t matter. Nor does Clemson. They can just take their 40% of viewership and go somewhere else. The ACC will be just fine with the 60% they have left. And when ESPN cuts that $44.8m payout to $30m, that will give the ACC a chance to show what they are really worth.
It honestly makes sense... FSU has proven to be a thorn in the side of their current conference. I think the SEC goes after Miami and NC once the dominos start falling.
These guys remind me of Locked on Pac 12 last year.
Kenton is like Locked On PAC-12 who has taken his denial views to Locked On College Football.
This dude on the right is so out of touch with reality… FSU will never land in the SEC
Lil brother need to go independent, SEC commissioner just came out and called them cry babies. At this point SEC is drawing a line in the sand they don’t want them so at this point it’s Big10 or Independent.
Miami and their billionaire keeps losing to broke ass crybabies 😂
Must suck losing to a little brother-crybaby? 😂
Why is it not true that they don't want to add a potential troublemaker?
After this it will be funny if FSU a and Clemson end up staying in the ACC.
Pitt and UNc heading to SEC
Did the Big 10 OR Sec actually report what you’re saying?
More click bait😂
Gibbs don't you know Miami is a bigger brand than Clemson and FSU?
We know you didn’t go there cause you’d be smart enough to know you’re wrong🤡
What would you Expect from a person who's not a []_[] of Miami {Football} Alumni???... He's UL...
@@JohnnyBushwhacker-yv6bc He's 100% Correct. Miami IS THEE Biggest Brand in the ACC... and will Always be.
@@Poseidon0077 Such a big brand they rent a stadium from the Seminole Tribe and can't sell out a single game unless FSU is in town.
@@encycl07pedia- 😁 You're Right.. and Yet "Tha []_[]" {Trademarked} is yet STILL the Biggest Brand & 'Class' of the ACC!
It's Simply Fascinating isn't it 😎.
Love it!😂😂😂
They don't want florida state becouse they suck and cry about it who in the sec would want that a cry baby that sucks
Love the show. I'm a daily viewer...but you only have 3k viewers...get to working the algorithm men. We need more click bait and viewers
This dude Gibbs is a 🤡 if FSU/Clemson leave ESPN can lower the payout or cancel the agreement entirely 🤔 So the conference implodes if the 2 biggest brands leave.
Kenton Gibbs gets more ignorant the more I watch this show… he’s like the ACC soon to expire
All laughs now but we'll see ALL the HATERS crying later!FACTS!!🍢🍢