Lost Norwich - Under the Flyover

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • The Norwich Flyover, constructed in 1971/2, was and still is highly controversial. Part of the city's inner link road, it aimed to improve traffic flow around the city, but as this video shows, its construction swept away numerous buildings and former streets, and effectively split Magdalen Street in two.

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  • @andrewnovell
    @andrewnovell 3 роки тому +11

    Lovely film as ever, it almost unbearably sad again to see what has been lost and what has replaced it. Thank you for your efforts to keep Norwich history alive!

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you Andrew for your comment. The city certainly lost some character as a result, but it seems there was considerable congestion at the time and the road was done to relieve that. As you rightly say, I am trying to keep history alive!

  • @traceyculyer5811
    @traceyculyer5811 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you .I remember when the fly over was built and was excited as a child to drive over it for the first time. Sad to see so many old building taken down though. My nan told me about what Barack street was like many years ago. No upstanding lady wood ever be seen on that street.

  • @keithwinters3031
    @keithwinters3031 3 роки тому +4

    Heart warming video as always. Shame the flyover severed so much.

  • @geoffpoole483
    @geoffpoole483 3 роки тому +3

    A lot to take in; I'll probably have to give it a second or third viewing. I have mixed feelings about the buildings demolished to make way for the flyover. Some of them probably had nothing wrong with them but the housing looked in need of improvement. Have you any plans to make a video about the courtyards and alleys in Norwich? The city seems to have a lot of them.

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for your comment Geoff. To date courts and yards have been included in videos about specific locations, but I know that there are many more than those I've covered so far.

  • @The_Brit_Girls
    @The_Brit_Girls 3 роки тому +4

    I loved seeing the old buildings and streets that were there before the flyover. I never really thought about that area too much before, so I learned a lot from this video. I applaud you for wanting to use the revenue from these videos to replace old plaques around the city, and to fund more. Come on City Council - make this happen!

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  3 роки тому

      Thank you, it may of course be nothing to do with the City Council, but you'd think they would know who to approach.

  • @dangerduo9179
    @dangerduo9179 11 місяців тому +3

    In the late 70's there used to be a delicious smelling shop selling ground coffee under the flyover on Magdalene street

  • @SwingBandHeaven
    @SwingBandHeaven Місяць тому +2

    Very interesting but ultimately very depressing what was lost in the name of "progress". Buildings that had stood for centuries replaced with boring Grey concrete and tarmac.

  • @loonylinda
    @loonylinda 2 роки тому +3

    i live near here and its horrible...run down...and nasty they did nothing good in this area.

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks, that's sad to hear, as with so many old photos there has been a lot of attractiveness demolished.

  • @resnonverba137
    @resnonverba137 9 місяців тому +2

    It's a tragedy how so many older buildings have been lost. It reinforces the importance of the current laws protecting them, laws that needs to be reinforced rigidly.

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  9 місяців тому +1

      I would absolutely agree, though to be fair some of these building would have been quite dilapidated.

  • @dangerduo9179
    @dangerduo9179 11 місяців тому +2

    I always loved the fact that the bridge was called the flyover 😂😂

  • @bjdb
    @bjdb Рік тому +2

    I know this area well having walked it often over 30 years ago, when the flyover was only 20! It is a tragic illustration of how we destroyed more of our nations heritage by design after the war than the enemy air raids achieved during the war.

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  Рік тому

      Thanks very much for your comment. It is certainly a hideous structure, and has the effect of splitting Magdalen Street in half.

  • @BRAWGWill
    @BRAWGWill 2 роки тому +3

    Could you make a video about the old Earlham Road/Unthank Road/St. Giles Street junction and what has been changed?

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  2 роки тому +1

      I think I have already done it...try this video. ua-cam.com/video/ppz15Y7_xg8/v-deo.html

    • @BRAWGWill
      @BRAWGWill 2 роки тому +2

      @@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich Thanks

  • @dereham1
    @dereham1 3 роки тому +4

    Top marks on your announcement, John - Norwich thanks you. Oh, and congratulations on making another informative video about a part of the city which we often ignore.

  • @martinthirkettle599
    @martinthirkettle599 3 роки тому +3

    Excellently informative as ever. Good luck with the plaque restoration idea - some of them desperately need it.

  • @doctordeej
    @doctordeej 3 місяці тому +1

    Progress, I guess. Sad loss of some lovely yards and houses. Plus ca change.

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  3 місяці тому

      Indeed. But I guess a degree of slum clearance too. Just a shame the result is an ugly monstrosity which has split Magdalen Street in two. Thanks for your comment.

  • @gavinpells4497
    @gavinpells4497 8 місяців тому +1

    Another interesting video and such a fantastic channel. Thank you for all the work you’re doing in putting these together.

  • @jackblue4078
    @jackblue4078 Рік тому +2

    As Catholics we used to go to st George's Church which on fisher gate now the cardboard factory

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  Рік тому +1

      Thank you Jack, for that detail. It just illustrates to me that there is still an awful lot for me to learn about this city - I was completely unaware of that!

    • @jackblue4078
      @jackblue4078 Рік тому +1

      @@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich It was more of a Chapel than a church, but it was beautiful inside. I believe it closed its doors in 1965 and moved to st George's we now see on Sprowston road.

  • @naw2064
    @naw2064 Рік тому +1

    I lived in the last house next to the flyover on peacock street as a student 30 years ago (1:30),the top window was my room, the car park was a Jacks (reclamation) yard, and office of the CLCIA (the Campaign to Legalise Cannabis International Association) set up by Jack Girling.

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  Рік тому

      Thanks for adding all those details. Your window view sounds like it was interesting!

  • @Retirement_Life
    @Retirement_Life 3 роки тому +2

    Another interesting video, John. Did I miss you saying when the flyover was built? 😲

  • @stefkuna
    @stefkuna 2 роки тому +2

    In the 1980s I used to visit Jack's Yard in what's now the car park in the corner of St Crispins Rd and Peacock St. It was a warren of hundreds of secondhand doors and windows. The rather beshevelled long-haired proprieters seemed to be stoned most of the time and I remember going there once in the middle of a police raid. I can't remember what happened to it - did it burn down or just get cleared away?

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for your comment Stefan. Sorry I don't know the answer to your question. Can't visualise it at all I'm afraid.

    • @susanwestern6434
      @susanwestern6434 Місяць тому

      Burned down then cleared away. Can't remember when. 1990s, 2000s?

  • @SnakeandSidney
    @SnakeandSidney 2 роки тому +1

    Green’s Lane (continuation of Cherry Lane) was where the composer and child prodigy William Crotch was born in 1775. He was the first principal of the Royal Academy of Music, and probably composer of the Westminster Chimes (Big Ben), I don’t know if there is a blue plaque to him in the area, but there should be…

  • @emmaedgington9294
    @emmaedgington9294 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks so much , so interesting, I live on Barrack street

  • @DJWerkz
    @DJWerkz 3 роки тому +2

    At 2:40 the shop on the right (Stalks) was John Carmichael Darts and Trophies in the 80’s. Spent many hours in there as a youth and budding Junior Norfolk County darts player (need to do a spotlight on the old Norfolk Darts and Social Club that used to be on Rosary Road) 😉

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  3 роки тому +2

      Actually, my next video is about Rosary Road, and I haven't heard of that. Google doesn't seem to have any info. If you can point me to a picture in the next couple of days I might be able to include a reference to it.

    • @DJWerkz
      @DJWerkz 3 роки тому

      @@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich I have scoured the internet but can find no images of Rosary Road in days gone by that highlight the area. There are images of the gas tower and pub plus the old Nest football ground but nothing in between. If you look at Google Earth the new housing estate built on the old Nest ground, it was in this area the old Norfolk Darts and Social Club sat. The original first Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses is also on the old Nest site

    • @DJWerkz
      @DJWerkz 3 роки тому +1

      @@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich here’s a suggestion John for Lost Norwich; houses of interest. Couple come to mind; Point House at the intersection of Sprowston Road and Magdalene Road and 1 Drayton Road now called John Boag House. This latter home was owned by family friends, the Lovelbadges in the 70’s and I remember going to visit as a boy. Both homes seem to potentially offer some historical interest but I know nothing about them really

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  3 роки тому +1

      @@DJWerkz thanks, I think I've got it. Does the phrase Chalk Hill House ring a bell?

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  3 роки тому

      @@DJWerkz thanks for the suggestion, I'll add it to my list!

  • @alanlake5220
    @alanlake5220 3 роки тому +1

    Another great informative video about losr scene's of norwich, and a great idea to revitalise the historic plaques

  • @Cal900
    @Cal900 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting video, not a part of the city I know that well.
    Great idea about the upkeep of plaques 👍🏾

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  3 роки тому

      Thanks Callum, it seems no one knows how to get these plaques replaced 🤔. Hopefully one day someone will know and tell me..!

  • @jant7061
    @jant7061 3 роки тому +3

    This was so interesting. I've been tracing my family tree and just yesterday found a branch of the family who were living in Cherry Lane - amazing timing.
    Thank you from a Norfolk Dumpling for making these wonderful videos.

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Jan, that's quite a coincidence!

    • @traceyclarke5475
      @traceyclarke5475 2 роки тому +1

      @@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich hi. Wish I could talk to u I live in Norwich for 47 years I am so ingulfed in the history and esp Norwich ghosts. I do ghost walks all the time I want do my own tube on Norwich ghosts but don’t know to start. Watching all ur videos. Such shame how Norwich has changed but nice see lot off original features still remain. To day I’m walking from Adam eve river along black friars bridge past ducking stool sign to haunted house house on Magdalene street number 19. Then cathedral and if energy I’ll keep walking. Absolutely obsessed with Norwich. And old Norwich and more importantly the ghosts off Norwich 👻👻👻👻

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  2 роки тому +1

      @@traceyclarke5475 hi Tracey, thanks for your comment. If you like ghost stories, you might like this one. ua-cam.com/video/Gb4oEP7BwOQ/v-deo.html

  • @donnabilling3061
    @donnabilling3061 9 місяців тому +1

    So interesting as always 😊

  • @MrBloodthirstyalex
    @MrBloodthirstyalex 2 роки тому +2

    I am gob smacked by this transformation, I thought I liked the flyover but now I'm not so sure! It's changed soo much! I hope you can contribute to restoring some plaques, have you heard anything?

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  2 роки тому +3

      I believe the plaques may be the responsibility of Norwich Society. So far I have just over £100 from UA-cam advertising. So it'll take a while to raise a significant sum, unless a video goes viral, but when I've got a few hundred pounds I'll contact Norwich Society.

    • @MrBloodthirstyalex
      @MrBloodthirstyalex 2 роки тому +2

      @@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich that is quite an amount still! You're doing well! I never got into the UA-cam Creators business, too busy!

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  2 роки тому +2

      @@MrBloodthirstyalex I'm retired, so this keeps me busy!

    • @peterthorn6004
      @peterthorn6004 4 місяці тому +1

      7​@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich

  • @clivewilson5258
    @clivewilson5258 3 роки тому +1

    Another fantastic history lesson 👍

  • @kathymcbride2425
    @kathymcbride2425 Рік тому +1

    always worth watching x

  • @adrianrutterford762
    @adrianrutterford762 3 роки тому +2

    Good Morning everyone

  • @IamaDutch-Kiwi
    @IamaDutch-Kiwi 3 роки тому +2

    Loving the past and present fade overs ( 1:58) and at ( 2:57) to mention a couple. I'm impressed with your research and efforts obtaining the photos and information. Quite a task done with love., I can tell. Hopefully the council will grab your offer with both hands and know what a treasure this is. Awesome John. 💖 🙏 🇳🇿 🙋‍♀️ 🇳🇱

  • @kelvintaylor4659
    @kelvintaylor4659 3 роки тому +1

    Do keep them going... interesting

    • @kelvintaylor4659
      @kelvintaylor4659 3 роки тому

      As always... very well put together

    • @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
      @JohnAtkinsLostNorwich  3 роки тому

      @@kelvintaylor4659 thank you, I aim to do one every two weeks. We'll see how long I can keep it up!