Use SD Cards on Commodore 64 (SD2IEC Reader)
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- How to play Commodore 64 games, demos and applications from SD Cards. Transfer software from PC to Commodore 64 via SD Cards and a SD2IEC reader.
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Best SD2IEC tutorial on youtube - simple and effective. Using an Amiga as the file "host" was a great extra. Thank you a lot!
I just got one of those card readers for the C64 and watching your video I was able to get my C64 up and running in less than 10 minutes and I did fill the SD card full. Thanks for making this video and making it simple.
Good work man! It's great you took the time to explain.
I don't think that people realise the joy of buying an old computer on ebay, and attaching one of these devices. Effectively you have the computer you always wanted as a child, but with every game ever released for it.
It's truly Retro Gaming Heaven. Did it with my BBC, and now I'm doing it with a C64 using one of these! Can't wait. Emulators don't compare to playing on the original hardware.
Well said, totally agree - there's nothing like using the original systems.
Kookytech.net (techguruuk) can't say I agree and it's only because of the slowness in load times. The systems themselves are cool but there has to be some way to get around that lag.
Back in the early 80's I was a commodore king. Vic 20 bought in 1982, C64 Bought in 1985, C128D bought in 1986. I had modems, Printers, extra memory but the single best thing was the CBM D9090 10 MB hard disk drive. I was able to put ALL of my floppy discs (hundreds) on that one hard drive. It was pretty fast too for Commodore standards. I was the Shit.
Back in the early 80's, nobody knew what came after kilo > mega > giga and we even pronounced it incorrectly in a movie, 1.21 Jigga-watts.
2019, we have a Terabyte on a Micro-SD Card that's as big as your finger nail, and 2mm thick.
2029, a "Tera Byte???? Is that, like a 1000th of a Petabyte?"
That's so freaking cool.
And I'm back living under mums roof!
And the Commodore Amiga computers, you say you were a commodore king, but never bought a Commodore Amiga computer?!?!
this stuff brings back memories..
Thanks for posting this useful info. I recently ordered a C64 and SD reader. I haven't touched a C64 since the mid 90s. I'm excited to experiment and possibly mod this wonderful machine
I've wanted one of these for a while but was unsure how easy it would be to use. This video will be a great help. Its a great way to enjoy all the C64's excellent games and homebrew stuff too on an original C64 computer.
I know it's a few years later, but this video helped me so much with setting up my virtual disc drive, and getting stuff playing.
cool t-shirt :)
That card reader is cute... even has a tiny Commodore brand and everythin.. Reminds me of those miniatures toys in Toy World, except this one actually works for real
Thanks Dan. Even 6 years later, I've got an SD2IEC on the way, I've just been able to prepare my SD card in advance ;)
A very nice, articulate, presentation. Only one point which may be a minor slip-up: When you see the horizontal bars of colour flicker, if the game has finished loading, this is far more likely to be a visual effect to keep you amused as the file decompressor works rather than an effect to amuse you during io/loading. :)
Even though I'm not interested in the C64, I still watched the video as I love how enthusiastic you are about the system. Nice to hear someone still calling them directories as well, I always think of folder(s) as simplified Windows 95 talk for the technically dim :)
Awesome vid and product. Could only dream of a 1GB sd card / hard drive as a kid. I think the c64 hard drives i saw in the day were 1MB AND UP. Had a c64 since i was like 6 or 7yr old
Nice video! Love the shirt. I agree about the breadbox model being the definitive version. At any rate, this was very helpful to me. I have a C64 currently collecting dust. I have a few games on floppies, but I don't want to wear them or my drive out unnecessarily. This solution seems ideal (not to mention fun to set up and aesthetically pleasing!)
I ll receive my sd-card reader on next monday. I am really excited how it works.
Thanks for your video.
That was really good . I sold my 64 in 1990 to get an Amiga . Never really got on with the Amiga though and miss my 64 and 1541 , had geos too and a disc full of public domain software including a Sid player jukebox . Also had demos on cassette . Had a vic 20 around 84 and a c16 used to keep selling and buying g different ones . First was a zx81 in 84 , then dragon 32, vic 20 !spectrum 48 , Sony MSX in 85 in 89 I finally got the big one the C64 . Early to mid 90s used Atari st a lot
Thank you sir, Extremely helpful and easy to follow tutorial !
invaluable!!! i have 1 c64 and 2 128d's and i have been looking all over for my blank disk and tapes. Thanks for this
Oh..it's so tiny and cute! It looks like a mini 1541 ! Loved it.
fantastic video will be my next bit of kit.... as got a c64 a few days back! loving the videos.. the amiga one was great..
I am brand new to the SD drives. I bought a 45,000 games CD and will probably forward and reverse thru your video until I figure it out. Thanks for the info
Thank you for your videos. I have recently started to get back into my childhood computers with the C64 and your videos help me remember what the hell I am supposed to do again! LOL - much appreciated!
Ian Bell keeps all versions of the original "Elite" (including C64) free for download on his website. You can always use that game as an example so you don't have to risk getting in trouble for piracy.
AmigaOS can read Fat32 formatted partitions yeah, as well as EXT iirc, but natively it uses SFS/SFS2 and the old amiga FFS and OFS disks still work fine. But using Fat32 USB drives is an easy way to move between a PC,
We all have our own little oddities like that I think! The only CBM disk drive I have at the moment is a 1551 for the Plus/4 so it's my only option for the 64, but it does work well. I do fancy getting a 1541 soon though as well, there is something satisfying about using old floppies.
Thank you Dan!
I finally got this figured out now
Thanks. Very helpful.
True that the 1541 Ultimate is more compatible with demos and fast loaders, but it is also much more expensive. There are versions of most games I've seen for the SD2IEC though, you can download specially made pack with fixed versions from the official site which all work.
The redesign was based on the C-128 when that came out. I actually had a C-128 when I was 11 years old. I got rid of it when I was about 18 or 19 years old along with the C-128 dsdd floppy 5 1/4 drive.
Feel the retro by waiting 5 minutes. All good stuff.
you can also use the trusty turbo chameleon64 to do similar, only it also does other stuff like letting your c64 run on a modern day monitor.
In 2020 it works great with an Epyx Fastload Reloaded cartridge. Remember to format the SD card to Fat32 ;)
What i found really interresting is how this sd card device emulates the floppy disk drive,and because of that,a modulator has to convert the modulated signal from the c64 disk output back to digital in order to fit on the sd card,when data from the sd card is loaded to the c64,the modulator has to convert that data to analogue for transfering,the c64 will then convert it back to digital for proccesing.
The flide side button switch on the sd flashcard is very interresting as you can swirch from rom part 1 on side A to rom part 2 on side B wich again nicely emulates the A & B side of the floppy disk.
So assuming,once you selected a game from the os menu,the flash card will then store that rom into i't's 2 sections of ram to replicate side A & B.to switch from it once needed.
Hi Dan brilliant video my friend really enjoyed it ,keep the good work up ,just changing the subject a little have you tryed Roadshow yet on any of you Amigas ?best wishes Brian only i could do with a video to install that as it will be out of date before i manage to get it sorted.
thanks. very timely, i just bought a c64 off ebay. hope to get an sd2iec or one of their competitors soon. there's a cool thing out there called the Commodore Flyer I would like to learn more about.
Not sure if you have an answer to this, but yes it does with with SDHC cards. I had no problem when I owned one of these but sold it recently.
Yep, or follow the link to the official site in my video description :-)
U know I remember a hard drive for the commodore. I believe it was manufactured locally where I am at back in the day circa late 80s.
Breadbin FTW! ;)
got my one wish the software was a little better.... but works a dream thankyou...
Thank you so much on showing how to do this
try jiffydos,youll find it will load alot faster
Once again a great video, very informative as always. Although next time I would like to see one on "Bed Hair" set-up
Thanks for the tip on NAV96, I will get round to putting JiffyDOS on, probably on my 1541 drive.
No and yes. I gotta good one myself. My C64 is the 'white one' which is the C64C. It usually goes into the Cassette/Datasette slot. Dan's is a lot better looking though I have to say!! :-)
Thanks for that. I'm going to order one. Good video by the way! im going to try and get a C64 again
Man that is so cool!!! I'm gettin that sdreader!!
p.s. You're too young to have nostalgic feelings about the Commodore 64! Smiles!
i wish there was a 8 bit console popular with the sid chip back then
This is really useful, thanks!
Np, i use also 128mb SD card for my SD2IEC and that works great.
It is little bit faster when you use a 2 Gig SD cards.
Also i change the SD2IEC device number to 8, becase alot of games having problem to save highscroes to device number 9,10.
OK, I did some research and finally figured out how to use the disk swap. It's actually pretty convenient, and has to do with generating a .lst file in the disks folder, and pressing the swap button. You'll see a flash to let you know you're on the next disk. This could get confusing for something like the Ultima series which uses lots of different disks. Would be nice if it at least flashes to indicate the disk # you are on, but I don't know if that's the case. You can navigate to a disks folder and press the two buttons at once to auto-generate a swap list, BUT it still will not recognize it until you rename the file from .gen to .lst for some reason.
Also, it appears that you can press "Q" to escape this FB loader menu and then you're just within either a folder on the SD or within a D64 disk file, and you can navigate around in basic. I'm still unclear on whether or not you can do this to save and load your own basic programs. That would be great to know.
You can see a demonstration of the whole process here: ua-cam.com/video/FSs_RABzUw4/v-deo.html
Thank for the info. I just made my mind not getting c64 mini or maxi when i can use other ways. And original hardware is original!!
Very useful, thank you 🙏
Great t-shirt!
Definitely, one of the main reasons I prefer the older C64 over the 64C was for the original 6581 over the filtered 8580
he means the sid chip.
Where did you get that joystick from? It looks like it's natively supported by the C64?
Nice video, i have also a SD2IEC works realy good. But some fastloader games/demos don't work. But i have some tips for you ;)
1: install a JiffyDOS kernel in your C64 wil speed up the loading time and is easy to use. Or you don't want to change/mod your systeem you can pick up a Power Cartridge.
2: NAV96 is also a very nice c64 browser, files sorting is better on this program.
This company don't, but it seems there are some available for the Speccy. Look for the Divide 2k11
Yes!
But you must set the device nummer of the SD2IEC to 8.
There is a progam for that you can use.
I love your videos man!
Sd2iec is the beast ! 😉
hello from germany..! this is the best clip, for dummies...like me ;-) !...thanks and have a nice weend .! your "GrauKappe"!..:-)
I always thought the Commodores slow load from the 1541 was the 1541's fault - here I see it's inherit to the C64 computer itself. Give me an Atari 8 bit computer any day.
Nice video, also the monitor is more important than the connector, S-video on a 1701 monitor looks worse than composite on a Sony Trinitron portable from the mid 80s :)
Very few games work with SD2IEC I find because it does not emulate the 1541 drive well enough to handle many loading routines even on cracked games downloaded from GB64 or in the TOSEC. Pretty much limited to those in the Blast collection of cracks.
Unfortunately the 1541 ultimate is 400% the cost so there is no easy solution especially if you want to load TAP[E] images etc.
I've not found many games that won't work on the SD2IEC, yes some of the loading routines are not emulated but there are several fixed versions and fully set-up diskswap-lists in the SD2IEC with the majority of the popular titles www.sd2iec.co.uk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/SD2IEC_Collection.rar
I have 2 reset buttons on my C64 one for the C64 and the another one for the SD2IEC.
When i want to load another game, i just reset the C64 and SD2IEC at the same time.
Then load up the file browser again and choice another game to load ;)
i used this monitor for my snes, it was awesome.
part of me wishes I made music for the c64, but another part is glad I have LSDJ and the DMG gameboy
Yes it wil work on white model, SD2IEC/qIEC selling for +/- 40 euro.
Ah yeah uncompressing would make sense! I notice it on the Amiga with powerpacker files, but never thought of it on the C64.
oh im trying to buy the sd-card reader, but im not sure which connector to use there were so many options, I have the same Commodore as in the video
Great video. Recently unearthed my c64 and not many tapes survived. Never thought Sdcard would work. Definitely checking this out. Where did you get the card reader from? Thanks
Wan't the 8 bit load effect, but the effect of decrunching. It was the sandclock for its time. :)
I don't think I could get along with this. I just use a 1541 active cable to transfer roms to my 1541II. There is something about the old floppy disks that is just so awesome.
Lol nice vid yesterday i buy the same commodore 64 never been used, no color change to it, but when i put him on i get a memory error, the man where i buying from tolt me hé buy the commodore 64 in 84 put it on and after 2 times hé get this error, and never used it again, i buy it for 20 euro, now iam going to fix the ram problem, but the thing looks like museum peace 👈👊👍
@techguruuk does the file browser have some sort of fastloader built in? I remember we used to load some fastloader programs back in the day to load games and demos faster.
I got a no-frills bare-board memory card reader for my C64, and I love it... but this is nicer, and about the same price. I love the case, and the reset button... my C64's add-on reset button doesn't work with my card reader. I wish I saw this video first.
Yes, i made a video about it. Just look on UA-cam with "Load C64 software of a SD card using SD2IEC!"
But i must install the swap buttons, when i have the time....
No there is no exit hotkey :( But you can make 2 reset buttons, 1 for the C64 and the another one for the SD2IEC/floppy drives. When you only reset the C64 and not the SD2IEC drive. Then the SD2IEC wil stay on the last dir/d64 last loaded. When you reset the SD2IEC it wil go back to the root of the SD card.
Thanks for this!
Nice Vid, I’ve just bought one with all the accessories but was wondering if I should get a Tapuino, SD2IEC or PI1541? Which would give me greater access to more software?
You need to do some more videos
on the c64,maybe you loading some games from the SD2IEC and the 1541...oh wait I could do that..;) Yes I have a 1541 now..:D
I made a menu for the SD2IEC too..
You didn't say anything about compatibility with 1541? From what I read there are problems with demos and some titles?
It's funny how nowadays you can get the sequels of the Great Giana Sisters on Nintendo consoles.
So pretty SD2IEC case :]. And copying stuff to SD2IEC on Amiga OS 4.1. Commodore 64 and Amiga, both computers of my life :]. Is that SD2IEC have somewhere buttons for switching files NEXT/PREV (i.e. d64s) on SD2IEC?
Thanks mate!!
Heres a question. Some games require multiple disks or require in-game disk swapping? Such as Operation Firestart or Gunship? How do you do disk swaping using the card reader when it has to be done ingame?
Thank you so much for anohter great video!
Hi Techguruuk. great video. just one question. how do you change disks for 2 disk games? I have the same as you but without the casing. Cheers.
Hi Dan - you answered (sort of) my question in the beginning of your vid. I recently picked up a complete system except for a monitor. I want to test it simply to see if it boots up prior to selling it. Any particular type of monitor should I use to test? Having the same issue with 3 Apple IIe's and (3) Osborne PC's!! I obtained them all for free from someone moving from their big house to a smaller condominium. He was a collector and repair guy of sorts. Thanks for any help!
I'm debating whether or not I should get this. I just got a c64 and a 1541 floppy drive.
Yes 1541 UII is THE best thing to buy if you want 100% compatible with all games/demo's.
But uIEC/SD2IEC is cheaper and IT wil play most of the games (yes i tryed many games)
I've just ordered my own, but was wondering if you knew what the best fast loader cartridge to use with the SD2IEC was and where to find them nowadays? Or even if there are any places offering reproduction carts.
Mine just gets stuck on loading, either from basic or file browser. I have C64C and same SD2IEC Reader. I ordered new sd cards, because these i tested was SanDisk 16 gigs cards and they dont work, or problem is elsewhere. I tried to format with different softwares to fat32, that did not help. I tried two C64C computers, both gives same results.
I’ve noticed more than one person from the U.K. calling the Commodore 64 the “Commodore Sixty-Four” but then calling the Commodore 128 the “Commodore One-Two-Eight”. I wonder why that is. In North America I don’t think we do that. I thought i’ve always heard the C128 as “One twenty eight”. Unless I’m crazy.
3:34 Coolest SD card reader ever!
dinky little thing..and I thought today's USB flash drives were small. Although they might be few camera tricks :)
Can u use it together with action replay or the final cartridge to improve the loading times?
Hi I have been trying to follow your instructions. Everything going well until I tried to unzip the file to put on my sd card. Not sure how to do this please help.
Yes, AR wont help but jiffydos or SJLOAD will improve load times..
I know this none related to commodore so i appologise in advance. But i have a zx spectrum 128k +2A. Do they have a card reader for that too..??
Yes ,It should work.
Dan you tell the world such wonderful things, I would love to be able to emulate them, .......... (pardon the pun).