Plumb and Line the Walls Ep.49

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  • Опубліковано 11 лис 2019
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  • @TThomas939
    @TThomas939 4 роки тому +187

    Perfect timing for this video! I’m 18 and just started on a framing crew, stood walls for the first time yesterday and plumbed/squared them today. Loving the series

    • @MonsoonEast
      @MonsoonEast 4 роки тому +23

      And take care of your back!

    • @alm000
      @alm000 4 роки тому +9

      Check out Larry Haun too, here on UA-cam he is the Framing God Father. Happy blisters young Man, :)

    • @stevetitsworth
      @stevetitsworth 4 роки тому +5

      Larry haun, who wrote The Very Efficient Carpenter, a book which Scott recommended in his last video, has a three part companion series to his book that you can watch on youtube. If you haven't seen it, I suggest watching that. Even though some of the building methods are now a bit dated, you will learn a LOT. You can pick up little tricks that even the experienced guys on your framing crew don't know or have forgotten about.

    • @alm000
      @alm000 4 роки тому +2

      @@Danny10Moreno I used to go to job sites on Monday mornings. Lots of guys don't always show up because Mondays suck. Their loss was my gain. May be different these days tho -

    • @alm000
      @alm000 4 роки тому

      @@Danny10Moreno Worth a try, good luck, :)

  • @ppronny12345
    @ppronny12345 4 роки тому +9

    I can honestly say. This is one of the most family friendly channels on UA-cam I wonder why the TLC and Lifetime network does not have programming like this.
    Thank you keep up the good work

  • @lpcc4010
    @lpcc4010 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for not having all those commercials that can ruin a channel!

  • @thomps2881
    @thomps2881 4 роки тому +118

    I've always like to insulate the bathroom walls and common bedroom walls for sound. Thanks for sharing,; keep up the great videos!!!

    • @essentialcraftsman
      @essentialcraftsman  4 роки тому +41

      great idea!

    • @marksparkplug7758
      @marksparkplug7758 4 роки тому +7

      Thomps 2881 same here!

    • @whitacrebespoke
      @whitacrebespoke 4 роки тому +11

      Like wise. Keeping noise down is a great idea. I do floors to.

    • @stephenmurray4916
      @stephenmurray4916 4 роки тому +17

      In ireland we sound insulate all internal walls now. i grew up in a house that didnt have insulation in the studs, you could hear everything. It dosent cost much extra to do it.

    • @dutchgray86
      @dutchgray86 4 роки тому +9

      Two separate 4" stud walls on a single 6" plate, with insulation weaved between them, works very well for reducing sound transmission, more materials and time though, nothing is better than solid block built interior walls though.

  • @mrshoeguy2477
    @mrshoeguy2477 4 роки тому +29

    We use wood for 6 story apartment complexes in Los Angeles (with some good laws about sprinkler systems and fire stops) because it's the best defense against earthquakes. Lightweight, strong, and flexible.

    • @mrshoeguy2477
      @mrshoeguy2477 4 роки тому

      I've been out of it for many years so I don't have any connections either.

  • @BrianBriCurInTheOC
    @BrianBriCurInTheOC 4 роки тому +1

    Thank You so much Scott, Nat, and Family for allowing us to become part of your lives and this process!

  • @badlandskid
    @badlandskid 4 роки тому +5

    I just love your philosophy on craftsmanship. Do the very best you can, with the materials you have the budget you’re given. And always build it like you you would be pleased to live there yourself. 👍🏼

  • @billionairemaker
    @billionairemaker 4 роки тому +10

    Perfect way to start my day. I keep refreshing my subscription feed until EC videos show up.

  • @adam03753
    @adam03753 4 роки тому +189

    EC: "and keep up the good work."
    Me while starting to tear up: "thanks dad"

    • @brianbob7514
      @brianbob7514 4 роки тому +18

      I feel the same way, I love this channel.

    • @clausiusuf
      @clausiusuf 4 роки тому +17

      I need to say that to my son more often.

    • @joshuaharrison9331
      @joshuaharrison9331 4 роки тому +9

      Me tear-ing up just hoping that one day I can be a man like this.

    • @danielgriffith7774
      @danielgriffith7774 4 роки тому +2

      @@joshuaharrison9331 As a dad to a 12 yr old boy, I can't agree with this more!

    • @tonysailer8470
      @tonysailer8470 4 роки тому +1

      And I always reply to the TV, "and YOU keep up the good work!"

  • @senorjalapeno3937
    @senorjalapeno3937 4 роки тому +5

    This man is America. The epitome of essential importance in our society. I'm on my second year of my electrical apprenticeship, but this series serves for every trade out there no matter what we do we uplift human kind and ourselves to the betterment of our lives. After a hard day's work, family. What brings us together at the end of the day. You sir are a true inspiration. Thank you.

    • @ron6625
      @ron6625 6 місяців тому

      You're not wrong. I'm an experienced surveyor, and I love picking up carpentry tips to help me out when the boys seem to be struggling to keep things in line/plumb. Because there's definitely a skill gap. In the past, I wouldn't need to do too much, since they could pull their own lines and tape. Not so much these days. I honestly try to learn carpentry skills to show carpenters ways to use my marks so they don't need me as much...lol
      Old fellers like this guy does what most trades are forgetting these days: Everything is built off the basics. You don't need to rely on me for everything. Especially when electrical is involved...hahah, you guys just need to juggle around everyone else. It's surprising how much in common plumbers have with electrical guys, and they don't even know it.
      And yes, its very satisfying work.

  • @candace3676
    @candace3676 4 роки тому +3

    Love the family time addition. The real reason for Essential Craftsman. Thanks.

  • @MattBangsWood
    @MattBangsWood 4 роки тому +24

    Love how well you explain things! We do a lot the very same.

    • @ib4wp48
      @ib4wp48 4 роки тому +2

      MattBangsWood cool to see you here, i love your channel

    • @johns6147
      @johns6147 4 роки тому +6

      Hell yeah! MattBangsWood showing some love for the Essential Craftsman. The 2 best channels on UA-cam.

    • @MsElijah16
      @MsElijah16 4 роки тому +1

      Bang on

    • @rubenvarela4077
      @rubenvarela4077 4 роки тому

      Yupppppppp

    • @shaundobbs2138
      @shaundobbs2138 2 роки тому

      Matt, I grew up in NorCal Framing in Dublin and the valley. It's great to watch both of your channels. Now that I am out in San Antonio in Matt Risinger's neck of the woods, the framers out here are very different and I find myself struggling to not micromanage my jobs.

  • @63256325N
    @63256325N 4 роки тому +3

    Can't thank you enough for filming this build. Brings back a lot of fond memories.

  • @reevvaa
    @reevvaa 4 роки тому +9

    Love it, that beats anything on tv, thanks EC

  • @conrodfox8859
    @conrodfox8859 4 роки тому

    You are such a great teacher. I am into finance field and not in construction, your attention to details keeps me glued on like a bee to honey. I find your videos very nice and encouraging and motivating. Helps me a great deal in forgetting stress and being happy.

  • @tamasmihaly1
    @tamasmihaly1 4 роки тому +3

    These videos are very much appreciated. You're a good narrator and an excellent carpenter.

  • @Mastinox803
    @Mastinox803 Рік тому +1

    Aircraft mechanic here. Built a 12'x16' shed for my sister in preparation for my own shed then small house. Your videos are a treasure of tribal knowledge put forth in a common sense manner. Thank you.

  • @monsterq6
    @monsterq6 4 роки тому +1

    The amount of priceless information here is unreal. Thank you. God bless you and keep you safe happy and healthy.

  • @Noland-tv8yg
    @Noland-tv8yg 4 роки тому +1

    its great to see your craftsmanship and how well you explain what youre doing to the viewers! ive been on the production side as well as the the custom side. looking forward to this complete project! i know it will be great!

  • @trunkshvac3339
    @trunkshvac3339 4 роки тому

    I've been working in construction and mechanicals for about 14 years now and everytime I watch one of these videos I learn something about the process I knew but never knew about(if that makes sense) when it be a different method or nomenclature or what ever. Always a pleasure guys many thanks again.

  • @Cchandler4704
    @Cchandler4704 4 роки тому

    Modern day Bezalel. You are truly filled with the spirit of wisdom! I greatly appreciate these videos, they are really educational for me and also what a great story a Father and Son building house together, Grand children running around, sure hope I can have times like this with my Son when he is grown. God bless you and your family!

  • @KeithTN
    @KeithTN 4 роки тому +1

    Great to see the videos have caught up to when we came by to see the site this summer. Thanks again for taking time to visit with us. Love seeing that terrific view in the background of some of the shots. I'm sure the views are even better from the second floor. Keep up the great work.

  • @zangsax
    @zangsax 4 роки тому +2

    This is an heirloom quality house that would make generations a wonderful home. What a great example of quality.

  • @JohnKera
    @JohnKera 4 роки тому +1

    Larry Haun was a great framer and teacher. I loved watching is videos.

  • @firstnamelastname2149
    @firstnamelastname2149 4 роки тому +86

    IDK if ya’ll are past this stage or not yet, but I find sound insulation in interior walls to be a great feature, especially around bedrooms and bathrooms

    • @paulswebba
      @paulswebba 4 роки тому +9

      Completely agree, not everyone wants to hear your bathroom or bedroom activities, but he is only building the place not living in it/

    • @cyclesingsleep
      @cyclesingsleep 4 роки тому +7

      ...& especially so that you can study while your sister or brother play! ...or mom or dad on the night shift can sleep when others are awake! : )

    • @paulswebba
      @paulswebba 4 роки тому +12

      The reasons for sound insulation are numerous and imho obvious, 4" of rockwool can make all the difference to your quality of life/

    • @reissc655
      @reissc655 4 роки тому +2

      100mm Rockwool is a must in bathroom walls /bedroom. Utility etc. Many times in uk people seem to try getting away with out doing it. Way you have to look at it is do it once do it proper. The cost to strip it then re do all your work due to trying to save your self couple quid doesn’t warrant the risk

    • @robinturner2300
      @robinturner2300 4 роки тому

      Paul Webb in the UK building regulations require sound insulation and sound deadening plaster board for internal stud walls.

  • @williamdegnan4718
    @williamdegnan4718 4 роки тому

    I enjoy this series, on several levels, for myself. But also for the memories you are building for your family, the priceless construction record you are creating for the homeowner and the teaching and inspiration that you leave for generations, long after we are gone. "Keep up the good work," is your admonition to them, too. ♥️

  • @phooesnax
    @phooesnax 4 роки тому

    Continue to enjoy this series. Thank You!
    Jim

  • @shaungahan5227
    @shaungahan5227 4 роки тому

    That sure is a great job gentlemen, thank you for making such a valuable resource. This series will bless people for years.

  • @TheOddOne2
    @TheOddOne2 4 роки тому

    It's been said by thousands of people before me, but thank you for doing these fantastic videos. Love how the craftmanship is being preserved for future young carpenters. Also being a carpenter from northern europe its very fun to see the similarities and the differences of the workmanship.

  • @rodw
    @rodw 4 роки тому +1

    Thank You for sharing your thoughts, talent, and videos, Rodney

  • @RodrigoBatschauer
    @RodrigoBatschauer 4 роки тому

    Guys, you’re great! Keep up the good work! Thank you all. Greetings from Brazil.

  • @davidparker8189
    @davidparker8189 4 роки тому +1

    This is gonna be the "perfect" house for someone....and thanks for giving ol' Larry the respect he deserves. Between his videos and yours, I could easily build an off grid cabin. Thanks for sharing your knowledge

  • @hardlyb
    @hardlyb 4 роки тому +4

    His 'keep up the good work' at the end reminds me of one my favorite memories: I was making a new door for the box on the side of our house that had the electric meter in it (no idea why there was one, but it was there, and it kept getting wasps and trash in, which made resetting a breaker exciting), and my not quite 4-year-old daughter (who is now almost 30) came out to observe. At one point she announced, "Daddy, I'm proud of you for doing a good job!" That's a phrase we've used in the family ever since. (I wasn't so sure the door I was making was that good, but it kept insects and trash out of the box until we moved out of that house, and the last time I was by the place I saw that it was still there and looked fine, so I guess it was okay.)

  • @klmbuilders5385
    @klmbuilders5385 4 роки тому

    I'm really enjoying this build series. It takes me back at least 30 years when I was working for a company that built homes and townhouse complexes. Lots of "plumb & line"! I admit I do miss it. Keep up the good work :)

  • @jacksonross7697
    @jacksonross7697 3 роки тому

    Really enjoying this series. I'm a total novice trying to design and build my own outbuilding/office using traditional building techniques, and this plus Larry Haun's videos have been a huge, huge help and resource. Plus, great to see it all happening here in Oregon (we're in McMinnville). Keep up the great work.

  • @davidb9547
    @davidb9547 4 роки тому

    I just started viewing your chanel a few weeks ago. I can't do physical work anymore and I miss it. I really do enjoy watching skilled craftsman build something that they are proud to sign there name to. 👍✌

  • @paulehlers2225
    @paulehlers2225 4 роки тому +1

    Best site on UA-cam! Scott & Nate you guy's are class act's!!!

  • @TheKret8
    @TheKret8 4 роки тому +1

    I am so excited seeing how far behind real time this video production is... mainly because it means there are SO MANY videos in the pipeline!

  • @anthonystroud1247
    @anthonystroud1247 4 роки тому

    Hi from AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺
    As a builder here I love watching different ways other countries build homes.
    Even a simple thing like taping a crayon to a builders pencil, I have never seen before but such a great idea when marking plates.
    Keep up the good work 😜

  • @ajf227
    @ajf227 4 роки тому

    Great amount of information in a short video. This was my favorite stage of the project apartments I worked on before my fall

  • @OldIronShops
    @OldIronShops 4 роки тому

    Been enjoying the build as a kid my grandfather built a 2 car garage in a 3 day weekend . He had spent a lot of time precutting everything and even painted the exterior siding . Lot of faith in his work.

  • @jerryglen986
    @jerryglen986 4 роки тому

    You seem very satisfied by your life. You have a positive attitude, and kindness that is infectious. Really enjoy your videos. Many blessings to you and your family.

  • @davidhahn8583
    @davidhahn8583 4 роки тому

    Thank you for recording your knowledge for all the world to learn from and enjoy.

  • @benmay5206
    @benmay5206 4 роки тому

    Thanks for your video , enjoying these latest episodes ! I've learnt a lot from your experience and always watching to learn more tips and efficient methods of work . Keep up the good content , all the way from a 21 year old carpenter in Devon England.

  • @donfillenworth1721
    @donfillenworth1721 4 роки тому

    It’s so nice to watch quality workmanship. Thanks for sharing.

  • @tigi111
    @tigi111 4 роки тому

    Thank you for all these phenomenal videos, it's wonderful to see a house take shape. keep up the good work.

  • @kengamble8595
    @kengamble8595 4 роки тому

    I very much like watching the house going up......
    but the family around the fire does my heart good ! 😊
    Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍

  • @pauledwards9493
    @pauledwards9493 4 роки тому +1

    To me, from the UK, it makes perfect sense how you build.
    People have forgot what timber is capable of in some places. Where yes in some, brick etc. is needed as you say.
    But to me, a timber framed house has style all of its own and i love it!

  • @claudetomassini6528
    @claudetomassini6528 4 роки тому

    Love your videos on house framing from ground to roof. Learning a lot from your videos it will serve in near futur. Thanks a lot.

  • @lexislandscape8345
    @lexislandscape8345 4 роки тому

    I unfortunately just discovered this channel but I am super glad I did. Greatest content I’ve seen! Love it all!!!!

  • @VeraTR909
    @VeraTR909 4 роки тому +1

    This video was especially soothing/relaxing, keep up the great work!

  • @mrdesignstx
    @mrdesignstx 4 роки тому

    I did residential construction from 1997 to 2007. Started from the very bottom. I learned everything I could then I learned how to draw CDs. I worked an arch for a year and now I work for structural in DTLA. Now I'm building my house. I love your work!

  • @darrelllacy7079
    @darrelllacy7079 3 роки тому

    This man is about the best carpenter I have seen puts me in mind of a carpenter I worked for about 18 yrs you know what you are doing

  • @chris_1337
    @chris_1337 4 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing your amazing skills and expertise!

  • @inconsteveable91
    @inconsteveable91 4 роки тому

    Every time I see your video pop up in my feel I unconsciously say "YESSS" thank you for this experience. I would love to meet you all one day.

  • @dunemaster93
    @dunemaster93 4 роки тому

    This made my day!
    Thank you for all of your hard work.

  • @diffperspectiveok
    @diffperspectiveok 4 роки тому +1

    Wish I could give 2 thumbs up for family time at the end. There are never enough of those good evenings with family &/or friends.

  • @glaubermf
    @glaubermf 4 роки тому

    This is really an uncommon type of construction for us here in Brazil, but I found it to be AMAZING! I'm enjoying every one of the chapters and I long for to watch the next ones. Keep up the great work.

  • @KarlHeinzofWpg
    @KarlHeinzofWpg 4 роки тому +3

    Watching a building being framed is always so calming and meditative.

    • @HK-eb3by
      @HK-eb3by 3 роки тому +1

      Which is the exact opposite of actually doing it.

    • @KarlHeinzofWpg
      @KarlHeinzofWpg 3 роки тому

      @@HK-eb3by haha no doubt!

  • @RRINTHESHOP
    @RRINTHESHOP 4 роки тому

    Looking great. Well done Scott and crew.

  • @bestkinda4473
    @bestkinda4473 4 роки тому

    what a great family ! Good job Scott....blessings !

  • @ogeoffreys
    @ogeoffreys 4 роки тому +1

    You're such an inspiration Scott, and amazing at educating and explaining so many complex things. Currently building a stable for our new pony using many tips I've learned from watching your channel. It's nothing compared to the spec house but it's the biggest thing I have framed so far and the inspiration to take on the challenge came from the spec house series which is really starting to take shape!!! Keep up the fantastic work you do Scott, God bless from England uk.

    • @kierandoherty1600
      @kierandoherty1600 4 роки тому +1

      RR BUILDINGs is another good channel

    • @ogeoffreys
      @ogeoffreys 4 роки тому

      @@kierandoherty1600 thankyou, I'll check the channel out when I get a mo 👍

  • @railfan439
    @railfan439 4 роки тому

    I am pleased to learn you attended the Good of the Land Festival. I have many friends who also attended. Here in Southern California a wood frame (stick built) home will flex with the earthquakes and remain standing. There will be damage, but the house will remain mostly intact, and probably livable. They tend not to build with bricks or stone for that very reason. Thanks for the videos. Jon

  • @kevinkelly8995
    @kevinkelly8995 4 роки тому +1

    I'm Irish but have a fascination with Carpentry in the US since I discovered Larry Haun. This house is going to have one hell of a view, great job guys.

  • @bobt9948
    @bobt9948 4 роки тому

    This channel is sooo satisfying to watch!!!! Thank you !!!!

  • @MarsMan1
    @MarsMan1 4 роки тому

    *What a Beautiful Family... and House too! Great Job!*

  • @derblahherr
    @derblahherr 4 роки тому

    loving and appreciating ur content mate! very soothing and relaxing after a long day of work :) Keep it up!

  • @Jan_Seidel
    @Jan_Seidel 4 роки тому

    Well... that is the interesting part about your channel. Simply to see how you are doing it.
    I haven't seen a construction site like it seems to be regular in the states but still trying to make improvements to the own style we build in Germany

  • @ryanslut5607
    @ryanslut5607 4 роки тому

    Hello from New Zealand im a builder down here 👍🔨🏠 good very well done u make the building/construction industry around the world proud

  • @Nightman2152
    @Nightman2152 4 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing! Keep up the good works guys.
    On the subject of insulating interior walls the acoustic seal caulking (it's basically tar in a caulking gun and sound dampening drywall go a long way but I wouldn't do it on a spec house only a custom build where it was needed and paid for.
    The real sound transfer is between floors imo. I look forward to you guys going into detail on this in the podcast!

  • @MattBangsWood
    @MattBangsWood 4 роки тому

    Great work!

  • @hudi42
    @hudi42 4 роки тому

    This is a top notch series. Great job EC

  • @granworks
    @granworks 4 роки тому +1

    I am legitimately excited to see the upcoming videos. Why? Because you have now completely caught up to where I am at with my own home build and so I will be able to transition from watching your videos and thinking "oh, that's how I SHOULD have done that!" to watching them and thinking "oh, that's how I WILL do that!"

  • @zachbrenner9959
    @zachbrenner9959 4 роки тому +44

    So used to hearing “Thanks for watching” followed by “Keep yer stick on the ice”

    • @suicidaljell
      @suicidaljell 4 роки тому +13

      That's not the right line I recall somthing about a vise

    • @flnthrn2
      @flnthrn2 4 роки тому +8

      Uncle B. F. used that a long time ago... or when Chickadee was helping.

  • @daviddawson5136
    @daviddawson5136 4 роки тому

    Love how you teach. Keep up the great work.

  • @chrisbooboo3840
    @chrisbooboo3840 4 роки тому

    Enjoying this build a lot. Good filming.

  • @MrGmoney48
    @MrGmoney48 4 роки тому

    Love your channel. So much has been lost over the years due to anyone that claims to be a carpenter. OUTSTANDING JOB!!!

  • @jimharris4013
    @jimharris4013 4 роки тому

    Another good one Scott. Thank you.

  • @brianglade848
    @brianglade848 4 роки тому +1

    I'm right behind you, playing the acoustic guitar, fitting the tune to your craftsmanship

  • @zeedevil4409
    @zeedevil4409 4 роки тому

    Fantastic as always

  • @mattymcsplatty5440
    @mattymcsplatty5440 4 роки тому

    Love yr channel. I very much enjoy watching the spec house being built. Keep up the great Guys.

  • @shanecateriny4359
    @shanecateriny4359 4 роки тому

    Stacked tolerances, a day killer at best. Probably one of the most important things a carpenter can wrap his mind around. Couldn’t have said it better. Thanks for the great tips and tricks.

  • @tomcripps7229
    @tomcripps7229 4 роки тому

    Great videos EC and such a beautiful family.

  • @TokyoCraftsman
    @TokyoCraftsman 4 роки тому

    Cumulative error, yep that can really bite. I see it in cabinet builds all the time.
    Sitting outside by the fire, it just seems programmed into our DNA.
    Cheers from Tokyo!

  • @monkfoobar
    @monkfoobar 4 роки тому +2

    Amazing the importance of string to building a house

  • @ke0kie
    @ke0kie 4 роки тому

    Standard gold, thanks as always!

  • @ZeyadLT
    @ZeyadLT 4 роки тому

    Your talk is golden sir

  • @woodlandburl6648
    @woodlandburl6648 4 роки тому

    Great work.

  • @joshsimpson10
    @joshsimpson10 4 роки тому

    It looks great, coming along well

  • @tomwagemans1872
    @tomwagemans1872 4 роки тому +1

    Here in Belgium almost every house has brick walls. That is why I watch this series. Wooden houses are getting build more and more.

  • @bocui5281
    @bocui5281 4 роки тому

    You are making a documentary history...thank you for your striving work

  • @wadejensen4146
    @wadejensen4146 4 роки тому

    Keep up the good work!

  • @terrystephens1102
    @terrystephens1102 4 роки тому

    Looking fantastic 😃👌👌👌

  • @dominosgarage
    @dominosgarage 4 роки тому

    Love it! Keep them coming. Hope you guys make it to Minnesota someday.

  • @redwhiteblue7831
    @redwhiteblue7831 4 роки тому

    Great job you guys, keep it up.

  • @sleepy_143
    @sleepy_143 4 роки тому +1

    I've learned so much already through your previous videos! I feel like I could frame my own house! Thanks Scott and Nate!
    P.S. I think you should live stream some Q&A!

  • @TheCountryCottageGardener
    @TheCountryCottageGardener 4 роки тому

    Am in the UK and up till a month ago lived and owned Victorian prproperties. They were brick and mortar with plaster skin. Rendered externally. Having moved into a 7 year old house I was shocked not to find a solid wall. Plaster board into timber framing into ply board into single skin brick.

  • @JACKxTHExRIPPER
    @JACKxTHExRIPPER 4 роки тому +1

    Wow. That’s gonna be a great view out of those big windows.

  • @boboconnor1403
    @boboconnor1403 4 роки тому

    Just another GREAT video...

  • @sb1806
    @sb1806 4 роки тому +1

    The part of Oregon this is filmed in is a hidden gem. Lived in Eugene for forty years and the rain and fog in the winter months can wear you down after awhile.I think southern Oregon has over a hundred more days of sun light a year,