Top 10 Electric Cars Under $30,000 in 2023

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  • Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
  • Now in 2023 we really do have some good choices of affordable electric cars including Teslas. These new and used electric cars are for sale for under $30,000 which definitely is considered affordable granted that EV and car prices have skyrocketed in the last 2 years!
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  • @antoinepageau8336
    @antoinepageau8336 Рік тому +27

    Regarding Tesla service, I can only speak for my experience and it has been stellar. I had an issue where the phone app lost the connection to the car once in a while. On a Sunday I wrote to Tesla service throughout the phone app. Not only did they respond through the App minutes later, they remotely diagnosed the issue and suggested I add a wifi signal booster when parked at home. BTW every time I reach out to Tesla I get immediate feedback, prompt service with dates I can choose from. Maybe we're spoiled in my area, but I've never experienced anything remotely this good at any other brand.

    • @waynelevett3632
      @waynelevett3632 Рік тому +3

      Awesome news. Some people get a problem years ago. Bad news travels many times the speed of good news & it sticks in peoples head. Thanks for sharing your good service opinion.

  • @yodasbff3395
    @yodasbff3395 Рік тому +6

    Love your sarcasm, good information, thanks.

  • @robfelts8076
    @robfelts8076 Рік тому +11

    My last new vehicle was a 2014 Kia Optima LX that I paid less than 20k for. Needless to say, I am experiencing a bit of sticker shock at new car prices 😳.

    • @emyhR
      @emyhR Рік тому +1

      Also gotta think about how much money you make now compared to when you got that car. That’s what’s been keeping me from going ape shit on companies lol

    • @frank2897
      @frank2897 Рік тому

      Rob I agree the prices are crazy. after a month I found a small pick up to do dump runs, at a resonable price. Still I have found better prices on EV cars vs. ice.

  • @acchaladka
    @acchaladka Рік тому +5

    Alex, you have international viewers with no access to US subsidy, and viewers who care about range vs. price more than anything. I'd suggest doing a "least expensive total cost to own for 100,000 miles / km" video, which talks about how to calculate the cost in that metric (including their new insurance costs) but doesn't talk about specific subsidies. (Just tell people when to subtract subsidy from purchase price.) I do like your list videos and normal- people videos like this, just looking to make it more useful for more peoples.

  • @JasonTaylor-po5xc
    @JasonTaylor-po5xc Рік тому +4

    I was thinking of getting a used Bolt (fixed) for my kids to use for commuting to college but with used prices coming down, a late model Tesla Model 3 is very compelling. I know Tesla's service is hit or miss - but my two experiences have actually been really good - especially the mobile service.

  • @JBsC6
    @JBsC6 Рік тому +4

    Alex is awesome. Thanks for your shows. Always enjoyable

  • @scottconso
    @scottconso Рік тому +3

    Great video, Alex. This is the kind of useful, practical information that is needed. I came to the conclusion that the Kia Niro EV was the sweet spot. I just bought a used 2020 Kia Niro EV fully loaded and coming off an only 2 year lease with only 20K miles and it was $30K. Amazing overall to buy EVs about 3 years used - someone else paid for the battery pack. And if the range goes below the warranted level, Kia replaces the battery under warranty. This is an amazing money-saving strategy in the EV space.

  • @frito_bandito_
    @frito_bandito_ Рік тому

    Good video. Are any of these all wheel drive?

  • @guybedau
    @guybedau Рік тому +1

    Great overview Alex, your enthusiasm and humor are unmatched in the EV realm

  • @ronaldclarkson1146
    @ronaldclarkson1146 Рік тому +6

    Thanks for addressing vehicles in this segment of the market.

  • @georgepelton5645
    @georgepelton5645 Рік тому +4

    Bolt EV sounds like get best value. At least until March when the IRS announces the battery minerals required to qualify for the tax credit.

  • @user-tx9zg5mz5p
    @user-tx9zg5mz5p Рік тому +3

    "Beaver care" 🤣

  • @joelm077
    @joelm077 Рік тому +1

    Another entertaining video! informative too but the entertaining is better lol

  • @Lysander-Spooner
    @Lysander-Spooner Рік тому +1

    Funny, in 2020 I was able to get a 2017 BMW i3REX for under $20,000 with around 25K miles.

  • @andrericardo2673
    @andrericardo2673 Рік тому +1

    Prices need to come way down and charging stations become a little better. I traded my Kona EV for a Corolla Hybrid couldn't be happier!

  • @Da_GrandiMan
    @Da_GrandiMan Рік тому

    E-Man,
    Nice vid. & List !
    First time - Long-time (viewer comment)
    I like hearing more about what's available.
    I remember the days n vid's, b4 "Sandy M."
    When the focus was on the few cars n new tech coming.
    Funny,
    When 100 mi. was long range back then.
    Now it is all here !

  • @J3sus1sL0rd1
    @J3sus1sL0rd1 Рік тому +1

    Very good points do to, as out dated with so low range plus battery at 80% left on outdated EV, especially first generation Nissan Leaf at around 80 miles range for around $4,000.

  • @andyp91
    @andyp91 Рік тому +1

    The 2019 Model S is so beautiful inside. It has a good amount of wood grain and beautiful seats sculpted and keeps you planted. I only mention this model because a friend has one he just showed me.
    I want to own a electric car but certainly not going to buy a new one since I don't drive much.
    I used S is really appealing.

  • @ericsmith7149
    @ericsmith7149 Рік тому +3

    Just wondering if the Chevy Bolt battery problem has been conclusively fixed? I liked the Bolt when it came out but purchased a Nissan Leaf instead (no regrets). Would consider buying the newer Bolt to replace my Leaf if and only if the battery problem has been squared away.

    • @robfelts8076
      @robfelts8076 Рік тому +3

      Bolt has a new battery system with a respectable 250ish mile range. Great value, but limited speed DC charging. Great for a city vehicle or commuter. Not a road tripper.

    • @ericsmith7149
      @ericsmith7149 Рік тому +2

      @@robfelts8076 Thank you for the information. For some reason, I never consider the charge time, as I always charge my Leaf at home overnight while sleeping. Of course this does NOT work so well for road trips. Cheers.

  • @rolandtb3
    @rolandtb3 Рік тому

    Affordability otions still limited to small, low range vehicles or mid sized vehicles with higher mileage and some possible rebates. Then there are life cycle costs - upgraded batteries with increased range c/w software reprogramming, battery replacment, diminished battery range on already low range, software upgrades. Need to know the charging capability characteristics and how the battery pack is cooled or heated. Moreso in older designs.
    Need more import competition wiith longer range and hopefully better fast charging capabilities in both hot and cold weather.

  • @toddfraser3353
    @toddfraser3353 Рік тому +1

    Not to excuse Tesla's service. But I haven't experienced what I would call good service from other brands as well. Every time I had went to the dealership, I always felt that I was getting ripped off. Sure they may play the game like we tried to reach out to get a better deal, but the manufacturer said that they couldn't do it. But in general all automakers kinda suck at service, unless you are willing to pay for all the extended stuff.

  • @jftech11
    @jftech11 Рік тому +3

    Would have been educational to have mentioned the 2012-2018 Ford Focus Electric.
    I have one, and it still gets the 65 mile range it had when I bought it used in 2018 for $15,000 with 2230 miles on it. I now have 45K on it, and it's pleasant to drive.

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 Рік тому

      I think he mentioned electric focus

  • @dakotapahel-short3192
    @dakotapahel-short3192 Рік тому

    My 98 jeep got 16 miles to the gallon average... cost me around 350 a month in gas. I got an ioniq 6, 20k down roughly 700 a month. The first month i drove 2500 miles which would have cost me close to 500 in my jeep. 44 dollars in home energy. 44. dollars. definitely makes the car more affordable even those the price per month seems expensive. 0 regrets.

    • @KlokStudios
      @KlokStudios Рік тому

      Great purchase but theres more to look at then simply just the energy cost when you have to factor in something like this its really not just 44 dollars its 744 + the 20,000 you spent. If you did amortization break down of the total cost of ioniq 6, I wonder if you even come close to the efficiency of something like buying a kia forte or a toyota corolla both in the 20-26k range depending on the trim package, which average in the range of 35-45 mpg highway.

    • @hc3550
      @hc3550 Рік тому

      1021 per month at 72 months not including maintenance already ouch

  • @HelenFire420
    @HelenFire420 Рік тому

    To be clear, the tax credit only works if you owe that much money back to the federal government. If your taxes for the federal government are lower than the credit, it’s not like the credit goes to a return.

  • @simonpannett8810
    @simonpannett8810 Рік тому

    With the current technology changes it is probably best to lease for 3 years??

  • @J9_j3
    @J9_j3 Рік тому +3

    $30K for a car might pass as affordable in CA but not where i live and considering how much money i make.
    you wouldn't believe it Alex, but many folks in this country make a salary way less than $70-100k annual

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 Рік тому

      UNDER $30k. I live in Southern California and bought my Fiat 500e $8k in 2018

  • @mnhsty
    @mnhsty Рік тому

    Just FYI, a used EV specialist in the UK says that a higher mileage EV will probably have a better battery than a low mileage car of the same year because the battery will have spent less time fully charged (I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out why). So you probably should look for a car driven at least 12,000 miles per year.

  • @jamesvandamme7786
    @jamesvandamme7786 Рік тому +1

    I'll have to wait until all the new battery plants open up, then 3 years after that, to buy one off-lease. Sigh.

  • @stevenvillarreal226
    @stevenvillarreal226 Рік тому

    Tesla service has been way way better than any other service experience I’ve ever had in the past. Just my experience

  • @frank2897
    @frank2897 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for the information. I forgot about the Kona or Niro my sister wants a used BMW I3, she drives only in town. She will hold on to her ICE car, so that she won't be stranded. I'm getting a Tesla

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 Рік тому

      More likely to be stranded by the gas vehicle, although i3 more likely to have problems than other EV's. Iona BMW i3 and have own mini gas cars.

    • @frank2897
      @frank2897 Рік тому

      Oh yeah about the BMW I3 without the range extender. Otherwise it isn't a real EV.

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 Рік тому

      It's a small enough gas engine that it qualifies electric vehicle, I think it's the only one

    • @frank2897
      @frank2897 Рік тому

      @@rp9674 Hey RP thanks I didn't know that, still in my head there's a petrol engine that pollutes, needs petrol and more maintenance than the electric part of the car. Looking at a 2019 I3s models for my sis (no range extender engine)

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 Рік тому

      @@frank2897 I agree in theory, but it really helps with the first-gen short-range, still, I rarely use it. If I could get second or third gen battery, I'd go BEV.

  • @mikafiltenborg7572
    @mikafiltenborg7572 Рік тому +1

    Tesla model Y is the most sold carmodel in Califorina

    • @overcaffeinatedengineering
      @overcaffeinatedengineering Рік тому

      I read it's the most sold model globally. I guess Tesla is more popular in China than Toyota is.

    • @CNile-se9xw
      @CNile-se9xw Рік тому

      @@overcaffeinatedengineering Last I heard, the Chinese are shunning Tesla. I'm not 100% sure why, but I recall a female dancing/stomping on the roof of a Tesla at a trade show. 😳

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 Рік тому

      Nothing to do with under $30k

    • @davidmenasco5743
      @davidmenasco5743 Рік тому

      ​@@CNile-se9xwTesla sells huge numbers in China.
      The lady dancing on the roof is like two year old news. A court found that she was telling blatant lies and ordered her to stop.

  • @Xonikz
    @Xonikz Рік тому +1

    I like the idea of EV operations being less expensive. In my area though the cost of home charging and operating an EV per mile traveled is not cheap and is a closer margin in operating a full gas vehicle than it might have been in the '10s.
    If an owner is using fast chargers or any public chargers while living in a short term house or apartment without EV charging options on site, the cost per mile in an EV is significantly higher than that of gas and way, way, way more expensive per mile than that of a parallel category hybrid.
    I want the myth of EVs being cheaper to own to be true, but I don't think it is any more. Home power in our area is a standard rate of 17¢ plus delivery and tax - 24¢ per kWh for me on average. Fast chargers are between 36¢ and 57¢ per kWh. Gas is $3.50 on average here.
    Show me that any 1-to-1 model category comparison is actually more cost effective for a EV vs ICE and Hybrid buyer with intent to own for 8 years.

  • @keithdesouza2841
    @keithdesouza2841 11 місяців тому

    The leasing option is not given by dealers. Unless you start your own company and lease it to yourself you don't get 7500

  • @binjones
    @binjones Рік тому

    Let me know when the used EV market has a price range of 6K - 12K. A large segment of American are buying used cars in that price range.

  • @evachiever
    @evachiever Рік тому +1

    It should be even better in 2024, the tax credit will be transferrable to dealers at point of sale.

    • @Xonikz
      @Xonikz Рік тому

      This would require your dealership to have a tax professional on hand to do your taxes. Not likely.

  • @tuffitout2568
    @tuffitout2568 Рік тому

    Alex ---> Hold the line.

  • @sjvtesla
    @sjvtesla Рік тому +1

    People have run out of excuses....I keep saying that

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 Рік тому

      They scared

  • @andriidanylov9453
    @andriidanylov9453 Рік тому

    All of them good to grab and export to Ukraine but in US You can not operate with this short range.

  • @tatradak9781
    @tatradak9781 Рік тому +1

    In the UK the cost of 1 yes a single kwh is 39p pence - its subsidies from the UK Government to around 54p ...well at 39p per kwh its way too expensive to run an electric anything...the price per kwh needs to be half to 20p per kwh...

  • @rp9674
    @rp9674 Рік тому +1

    Used Bolts appear to be overpriced compared to new. A new battery does not equal new vehicle.
    Complainers waiting for a free EV with 1,000 mi range, keep waiting.

    • @jamesvandamme7786
      @jamesvandamme7786 Рік тому +1

      There's no supply. GM was building them as a hobby, but it didn't pan out for them after the battery fiasco.

  • @jorgesmith2000
    @jorgesmith2000 Рік тому

    Only 2 of those actually have a legit charging network

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 Рік тому +1

      Many of us don't need a network, charge at home & and use whatever brand of public charging, works great.

  • @djbrianc
    @djbrianc Рік тому

    Call me when the electric equivalent to a MX5, GR86, or BRZ are under $30,000. Oh wait no one currently makes electric sports cars for this country under 6 figures. 😃
    The only one on your list I would consider remotely fun to drive is the Mini Cooper. 🤦🏾‍♂️.
    I don’t mind ev’s but please don’t forget about driver’s cars. Us enthusiasts won’t to be environmentally conscious too.

  • @phxBird
    @phxBird Рік тому +1

    According to current industry expectations, EV batteries are projected to last between 100,000 and 200,000 miles, or about 15 to 20 years. However, even when EV batteries do age, their large initial capacity combined with minor losses in battery capacity means the aging is nearly imperceptible to drivers.
    The good news here is that quality electric batteries can last a long time, with most electric car batteries driving 200,000-300,000 miles before needing to be replaced. The bad news is that when you do need to replace them, electric batteries can run you between $4,000 and $20,000.
    Used car buyers beware not knowing how much mileage you will actually get or how long before you will actually need to purchase a new expensive battery.
    I still think hybrid vehicles are the best solutions at 50 MPG. Just my opinion.

    • @conchobar
      @conchobar Рік тому

      The average US car owner replaces their car around the 200k - 300k mile mark, so a costly battery replacement at that time is par for the course.

    • @phxBird
      @phxBird Рік тому

      @@conchobar my car about 5 1/2 yrs old with 70k miles. My comment is to make consumers aware of possibly cost of used EV cars that has lots of mileage on them that they may have future cost of a battery or less of range of travel on batteries. All because EV are used and cheap not always a guaranteed of a good investment for everyone.

  • @HygienistDentist
    @HygienistDentist Рік тому +1

    Mazda burn hahaha

    • @jamesvandamme7786
      @jamesvandamme7786 Рік тому +1

      It looks cool. I'd be interested if the price was right, because it fits my driving routine fine. But it's Japanese so no rebate. Good luck selling them in the USA.

  • @mikadavies660
    @mikadavies660 Рік тому +3

    OK for USA.... Not so much in Europe & UK. Remember how cheap your gas is in America. Europe is $8 to $10 per Gallon.

    • @judebrown4103
      @judebrown4103 Рік тому +1

      Surely we save more as our petrol is expensive...?

    • @overcaffeinatedengineering
      @overcaffeinatedengineering Рік тому

      Our electricity is also a lot cheaper. For some reason. Everybody tends to spend less on fuel when the go electric

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 Рік тому

      $4-5 ish, I think

  • @L3x4Pr0ne
    @L3x4Pr0ne Рік тому +1

    I liked the Niro on this list. Lots of folks seem to love this car.

  • @glennkelley6096
    @glennkelley6096 Рік тому

    I just found out I was unsubscribed.

  • @texascajun9954
    @texascajun9954 Рік тому +1

    Hey Alex - Maybe you could sell your crappy ID4 for $30,000 and go back to the best EVs made today - TESLA :)-

    • @EforElectric
      @EforElectric  Рік тому +6

      Actually I would rather drive a Prius than go back to Tesla

    • @CNile-se9xw
      @CNile-se9xw Рік тому +2

      @@EforElectric Perfect response. 👍

    • @ValConB
      @ValConB Рік тому +1

      @@EforElectric I have been looking at used Tesla Model 3's to purchase (haven't seen any below $30k in northern Utah), saw your comment and was wondering why you wouldn't go back to Tesla. Also considered a used ID.4, and I think you have had problems with that also. I have never owned an electric vehicle so can use all the information I can get - which is why I watch your informative videos.

    • @rp9674
      @rp9674 Рік тому

      Ya burnt!

  • @mikel4879
    @mikel4879 Рік тому +1

    None of them is good and useful for blue collar workers.
    People don't buy cars as toys.
    The EVs should have at least 300 miles range in any driving conditions, good useful trunk volume, spare tire, fast charging time, and be under $30000 new.
    If not, regular people will not buy them.
    Sure, the idiots with money for free buy them all the time.

    • @acchaladka
      @acchaladka Рік тому +1

      Show us where the bad man hurt you...geez buddy, complain much?
      Also, you're describing a car on this list after incentive in the US.
      Also, imagine how much your d finances and life would improve if you didn't "need" your car for your life.

    • @jamesvandamme7786
      @jamesvandamme7786 Рік тому

      Figure in how much you'd save by not buying gasoline.

  • @0HOON0
    @0HOON0 Рік тому

    The I3, Kona, Bolt, and Tesla all have a reputation for being unreliable.

  • @waynelevett3632
    @waynelevett3632 Рік тому

    I want the Red S model please. But I'm sure it will easy double getting it to Australia 🦘. Plus LHD conversion needed.