Yikes, sorry that it sounds like I'm shouting here. The speakers were pointed AWAY from us during the show so it was hard to hear ourselves (and each other). I had a great time, thanks to the folks at Too Many Games for letting us do it!
I'm personally sticking to Steam Deck. Valve are the only ones thus far I've heard say that they are taking their time with releasing Steam Deck 2. I have faith in their next-gen model 🔥.
@drew1921 never got my micro sd card breaking inside the steam deck.. also had the deck for 2+ years now. i think you just got pretty unlucky. This isnt the ROG ally afterall lol
Their business model as a gaming store front means that their whole reason for selling Steam Decks is to get people to buy Steam games. That mindset singlehandedly changes the game because Valve has incentive to continue supporting and improving the device, and that's exactly what they've done. SteamOS has gotten dramatically better over time. Proton has gotten a lot better. Buy a Steam Deck, and you benefit from all that progress. To ASUS and Lenovo's credit, their devices have gotten better with software updates too. But if you bought any of the Chinese PC handhelds, all of the progress made on those devices, most of it is from the community.
@@Whatsup_Abroad I have a GPD device too (Win Max 2.) The software experience is nowhere near as good on the Chinese handhelds. I don't mind so much on my GPD because it's a full laptop and doesn't suffer from the frustrations of trying to use Windows without a proper keyboard and mouse, but that's not true of many of the other SD competitors. On my Steam Deck, I'll never have to worry about an OS update uninstalling graphics drivers or anything like that. I don't even really have to think about TDP unless I really want to. This isn't supposed to become a debate over Windows devices vs. the Steam Deck, I'm just pointing out that Valve has an incentive for after-sales support that the other device manufacturers don't share.
Hello Bill, Manu here, (Funko guy). Just wanted to mention that this episode ended up being more special than I thought cause just had my Mike wazowski moment, when you mentioned the funko I raised my hand and now I'm like "I'M IN A NERDNEST EPISODE" 😂 But what made it truly special, that I didn't notice live, is the other guys acknowledging me direcly because they already knew who I was. Thanks for the great experience and reading the comments I'm realizing that the mug I got from The Pawx is even more unique than I thought, definitely gonna take great care of it, Thanks Cary!
i love how Russ embraced his trademark "yeah man i wanna do it". it was hilarious when i first heard it 2 years ago when i was looking at 3ds/vita hacks and its still funny to this day lol
Have full faith in Valve, been a customer for 20 years, love the Deck and how they treat their customers. Custom handheld, OS and its runs great. Frame rate does not phase me, I want to just have great performance with experience and windows does not provide that.
Yeah the speakers were pointed away from us (and towards the crowd) so it was really hard to hear ourselves and each other, so yeah I had to speak much more loudly thank normal!
2 handhelds I'm looking forward to in the future: the Steam Deck successor, and the Switch successor. Otherwise, my Steam Deck OLED, Retroid Pocket 4 Pro, and Switch are all I need. Still love to see the market, competition, and communities grow since these are my favorite pieces of gaming tech of all time, so with that I appreciate all of the work you guys do!
I’m a Legion Go main! Man this is such a great podcast , love this show! The fact you guys did this live is awesome, wish I could’ve caught it. You guys have great chemistry, should totally do another live show and have bob on the pod more often 👍
Props to you for scaling up & presenting this an inperson scale, i can imagine its a nerve wracking difference from doing a podcast at home & infront of an audience
I think out of all the handhelds, Valve is in a position with the store to treat the Steam Deck as a generational device unlike laptop manufacturers. The OLED is kind of like the GOTY of the LCD. Would like to have, but still rocking the LCD daily. I think my biggest gripe with the Deck (no, not the track pads, I play wow and despite addons, having a trackpad is awesome for mouse), it's the OS. I ditched my desktop for the steam deck due to budgets, and I miss the flexibility of a standard Linux distro. Would love if Valve took a approach like Bazzite, and offshoot everything distro related to a big boy like Fedora and their atomic blue desktops (I know the Phawx will stop me dead right here, I know I know...). Great show, you guys rocked that panel!
As someone who is slow to upgrade devices and components, I still love my Steam Deck and use it daily. It's really cool seeing the NNP crew all together! I really enjoy the podcast!
I was at too many games to see this live panel, unfortunately I was in the wrong area and missed more than half of it 😞 Regardless it was great to see you guys and too many games was really fun and had a great time. I agree with the sentiment of too many handhelds. It may not be for everyone, but the Steam Deck has been the king device for me. I'm all for competition in the market but like phawx said, how many devices will they slap the same hardware in and brand it as something better or amazing than what's already out there.
The RoG Ally X is what it was supposed to be when first launched... Dual USB-C'S... SD card reader...for storage expension....and full length SSD storage... Also, a normal standardized Dock with charge pass through / HDMI output / usb-c's / usb-a's... 🧐🤓
@johnwebsterification u probably just got lucky cause many Ally users had their micro sd slot fried and stuff. Main reason why i avoided buying one. Also Asus has been very shady lately and their reputation is dwindling
@@heyjeySigma oh no my sad card reader bricks sd cards. Turns them into read only. I just don’t care. It’s such a great device. It’s too cheap a device to deal with warranty issues.
Bob does a podcast every week with his brother. You should check it out. I don't know that he has time to join the Nerd Nest on the regular, but he's always welcome.
Im so happy the video came out good!! Still sad I couldn’t come but I am so estatic I can still watch after the fact, thanks for making my day just a little better with every episode :D
Miyoo Flip is going to be my end game retro emulation device. I have a GPD Win Mini for higher end emulation and AAA titles and for retro emulation I have an RG35XXSP but lack of thumbsticks made me buy the RG35XXH and I find myself playing the H more. I prefer clamshells so the Miyoo Flip could potentially replace both my SP and H.
Attempting to support all these devices from the software side is also exhausting. I have been trying to keep everything going on ChimeraOS and I am burnt out. I'd rather focus on improving existing hardware than constantly needing to increase the workload every few weeks by adding a new handheld to reverse engineer and then support it in addition to what already has been worked on.
I desperately feel for you and I can't imagine. I've been reviewing the Ally X and in the process, I reported some issues and provided some info to Bazzite devs. I'll reach out to you next time as well to see how I can help. It's an incredible and mostly thankless burden but I do appreciate the work you've done.
What has kept me going has been reading nice comments and watching videos that people create. It is hard to believe I have been doing the grind for nearly three years now. There is actually a lot of things that the community has come together on to do all the incredible things that go unnoticed to the end user (This is a good thing, it means it is working). I have been thinking about reaching out to join a nerdnest podcast at some point and have been holding off. It would be nice to share the stories and experiences my fellow devs/enthusiasts and I have gone through with the rest of the handheld community.
@@ruineka_one Feel free to reach out to me on Discord (KodeAndGame) or Twitter (FanTheDeck). Bill has control over the guests but I'd be happy to do something more in-depth on Chimera on my channel as well. I totally agree that the community has really been quite the motivator at times. It's amazing to see the dedication that so many people have.
Love it thx. Sticking with my LCD Deck even as I fight the FOMO of the OLED. Question to consider: which of the retro handheld makers that are flooding the market do you think are really into gaming vs trying to capitalize on a market? Which ones seem truly passionate about it and getting it right?
Buying slightly older pc handhelds isn't the same as buying a switch (for example) when the switch 2 comes out in 6 months. Simply because on PC you're library of games will carry over to the new handheld. Console's require another level of investment. Not just the console, but the money for the new library of games
For the Android Handheld... The WINLATER...pc emulator is improving.... At the moment... There are UA-cam videos: Testing pc games... Cup Head and other indies games... Also... Running RPCS3 emulator for PS3 on certain Android devices... Ex: Mirror Edge Tekken × Street fighter Virtual Tennis... On my A-O2 Pro Black Edition....AYN Odin 2 Pro... Turning your Android device into a Virtual Machine ... An emulator running within another emulator.... Awesome... 🙃🧐🤓🤯
I was looking to purchase a handheld recently. Looked at the Ally X because it's more powerful and the 1080p screen (Crisp HQ Visuals are important to me) but damn... the price was so much higher than last years model. If you're gonna refresh it, fine. Discontinue the old model and keep the price the same for the new. Ended up getting the OLED Steam Deck.
To be honest, I expected it to be a little more awkward, but the show turned out great, very lively and not too “scripted,” everyone had time to talk and the topics themselves were interesting. Well done 👏
Up to this point in recent times there have been big enough improvements and upgrades in the devices in each price tier that it stays exciting. Now the upgrades are slight or side grades. Me personally, I'm just waiting for the "perfect Android device", now that we've kinda hit a cap on performance due to the apps limitation. A Odin mini with OLED would probably be what it took for me to sell most of my retro machines and stick with one for a long time.
A retro handheld isn't obsolete, what I personally did was turn my steam deck into a ultimate retro handheld, I will be able to power it on and play for years to come, over 5,000 games including a switch library of every great game. Now for PC handheld gaming I use my legion go. I've turned my ally into a desktop PC for my son. He will get years of play out of it. I'm the guy who needs them all though.
I love the size of the Steam Deck. I have a Switch OLED as well. No way would a clam shell work for me, neither would a smaller size. Though I’m using it to play Mass Effect, Dragon Age Inquisition & Baldur’s Gate 3. Games like I play have tiny details I need to be able see.
Also, just want to say that my hope is that tb5 will be the one cable solution for egpu's. When MSI figures out their stuff and puts a tb5 port on their handheld, I will buy it.
I doubt too many handhelds will cause a crash. Today with the internet there are so many tiny subgroups within subgroups that like weird things for the hell of it. Think about phones. Every month like 10,000 phones come out in varying quality-but it’s never killed the phone. People just stick to the brands they like. When ET came out, it didn’t cost 40 dollars to get a Linux handheld that could play that ET and 100,000 other games up to the Dreamcast. They were stuck paying 40 for that game alone, and they didn’t really know how bad it was until they spent the money and got home. haha. Besides, it’s games that make the system.
I'm mainly concerned with the short console-life and saturation because it means that there's going to be less console specific support and polished aftermarket options/mods. So when you buy a emulation handheld, you have to make peace with the fact that there will pretty much be zero support for the device in 5 years at most, and even expect the hardware to fail sooner rather than later. At least with the Nintendo handhelds we have aftermarket support for more than 20+ years later. Right now the market is moving so fast CFW devs and hardware mods largely target either the fad handheld (Miyoo Mini for example) or try to create mods that can be used by multiple devices, because the use all the same hardware. Any niche handheld isn't worth supporting, and pretty much gets forgotten immediately.
Glad you were able to get the footage for this. Really think this is one of the better podcasts in a while. Not really sure why though, and I don't think it's because of Bob being there, even if I do enjoy his content and perspective.
Here’s some food for thought: is not that we have an unjustified short PC handheld cycle, is that games aren’t developed for handhelds. Games are developed for the PS5, Xbox X and sometimes for the Switch. Until the handhelds catch up on the console generation, or the developers start to target a single handheld, there’s always going to be a short cycle to catch up. Without a long lasting target it’s always going to be a race between latest games and latest hardware. But the crash of ET was due to abundance of poor quality games, not abundance of poor quality consoles. It only takes a “quality seal” to distinguish what’s worth it from what’s bad, specially in modern age where we common people have so much more influence on shared media, discussions on Reddit, UA-cam, etc. if a product is good people will be aware of it, same thing with bad products. By releasing 100 devices an year these Chinese companies are only making their life harder, but they’re not a threat to Asus or Valve
You all totally rocked it. Please do more live events. The stumbles, such as they are, just make it more real IMO. Much rather watch The Nerd Nest in the theatre than at the cinema. Have a wonderful weekend Bill.
The gaming phone was already tried by Sony the Xperia Play. But maybe with current hardware seeing how the iphone can play real AAA games. Maybe it would sell better
It’s far too easy to get in the “I need the best” mindset with all the handhelds. It’s great to have the options if you can stick to the “this is the best, for me, and I’m going to stick with it for at least a few years” mindset though, which is what I have always tried to stick to with hardware.
The phawx the only one coming through with the LTT backpack. Come on, Bill, you got get your youtube swagger up. Where's your LTT backpack/jerry rig everything knife 🔪 🤔
This was awesome big fan of all of you…I started my PC handheld journey on the steam deck and absolutely loved it. Then I got a Lenovo Legion Go and absolutely love it. It’s one of my favorite devices I’ve gotten in a long time.
Russ saying that we don't get enough time with our devices these days before a new hand held is released....... Simple way to fix that. Buy a device you like and then don't go on the internet searching out what the latest and greatest is. You can play your device until it craps out. If it plays retro games now, it will be playing them years from now. No need to upgrade at all just to play the same emulated games. Comparing the lifespan of these new Chinese handhelds that are released very quickly one after another to a hand held that plays dedicated games is ridiculous. Of course a dedicated Nintendo or other big name handheld is going to have a long lifespan before another is released. They need to wring as much money out of the system before moving on, unlike a Chinese hand held made for emulation, that has no game development costs. They just release them and people keep buying them. What a waste of money.
I totally understand and agree that first-party devices and these emulation handhelds are in a different category, but the issue I was trying to present was that this is not how many of our brains are hard-wired, because we grew up in a traditional console release cycle and mindset. So it's a perspective shift, while many of us aren't prepared to detach from the old way of thinking, especially when these devices are associated with nostalgia.
@@Whatsup_Abroad to be clear, I was speaking about the primary devices I review on my channel, which are smaller, cheaper handhelds focused on emulation, that are often at the same or similar performance level. They unfortunately don't have the luxury of just getting slapped with Windows, instead there is an entire community centered around tweaking and perfecting each device and chipset. When there is an overabundance of devices, it overwhelms those of us who develop and create guides for each device, like I mentioned in this video -- a slower pace would be a boon for the community, as it would give them time to mature and become beloved. I've watched many developers abandon their projects and it's generally because they can no longer maintain their software with all of the various devices that drop every few weeks. For handheld PCs, I agree that they are just laptops in a different form factor. I have no major issues with their frequent releases, I think it's good for the industry because they will just keep getting better. There will always be people who feel slighted when the new one comes out, much as it happens with laptops, but that wasn't the issue I was focusing on in this discussion.
thanks for having me everybody 🤗
@@WulffDen it’s like watching the Avengers.
Always welcome Bob.
What a sweetheart 💖
Yikes, sorry that it sounds like I'm shouting here. The speakers were pointed AWAY from us during the show so it was hard to hear ourselves (and each other). I had a great time, thanks to the folks at Too Many Games for letting us do it!
Ah you’re good Russ. Glad to see ya on the panel. 😁
Yelling is Bob’s job.
I mean Bob's up there, I want to tell at him a lot over the years for being a Nintendo apologist.
@@Triknor YA HUNGRY?!!!!!!!!!!
Will you review Powkiddy V10?
I'm personally sticking to Steam Deck. Valve are the only ones thus far I've heard say that they are taking their time with releasing Steam Deck 2. I have faith in their next-gen model 🔥.
@drew1921 never got my micro sd card breaking inside the steam deck.. also had the deck for 2+ years now.
i think you just got pretty unlucky. This isnt the ROG ally afterall lol
I have an issue with anyone having too much control 😅. I mean valve us all good till Gabe sells the company.
@drew1921 dam that hurts could have gotten an ally for that price. I do like that the steamdeck can regularly break an hour and 30 minutes of gaming.
Their business model as a gaming store front means that their whole reason for selling Steam Decks is to get people to buy Steam games. That mindset singlehandedly changes the game because Valve has incentive to continue supporting and improving the device, and that's exactly what they've done. SteamOS has gotten dramatically better over time. Proton has gotten a lot better. Buy a Steam Deck, and you benefit from all that progress. To ASUS and Lenovo's credit, their devices have gotten better with software updates too. But if you bought any of the Chinese PC handhelds, all of the progress made on those devices, most of it is from the community.
@@Whatsup_Abroad I have a GPD device too (Win Max 2.) The software experience is nowhere near as good on the Chinese handhelds. I don't mind so much on my GPD because it's a full laptop and doesn't suffer from the frustrations of trying to use Windows without a proper keyboard and mouse, but that's not true of many of the other SD competitors. On my Steam Deck, I'll never have to worry about an OS update uninstalling graphics drivers or anything like that. I don't even really have to think about TDP unless I really want to.
This isn't supposed to become a debate over Windows devices vs. the Steam Deck, I'm just pointing out that Valve has an incentive for after-sales support that the other device manufacturers don't share.
Hello Bill, Manu here, (Funko guy). Just wanted to mention that this episode ended up being more special than I thought cause just had my Mike wazowski moment, when you mentioned the funko I raised my hand and now I'm like "I'M IN A NERDNEST EPISODE" 😂
But what made it truly special, that I didn't notice live, is the other guys acknowledging me direcly because they already knew who I was. Thanks for the great experience and reading the comments I'm realizing that the mug I got from The Pawx is even more unique than I thought, definitely gonna take great care of it, Thanks Cary!
I think I said your name wrong at the end. Sorry about that. Thanks for coming. For the AMAZING gift. Most importantly for watching the show.
Love seeing everyone together!
i love how Russ embraced his trademark "yeah man i wanna do it".
it was hilarious when i first heard it 2 years ago when i was looking at 3ds/vita hacks and its still funny to this day lol
YEAH, MAN! I WANNA DO IT!
So awesome to see everyone on the same panel. Huge fan of all you guys, keep it up!
This was a GREAT panel, one of the better ones. Loved WulffDen showing up. Great show, guys!
Have full faith in Valve, been a customer for 20 years, love the Deck and how they treat their customers. Custom handheld, OS and its runs great. Frame rate does not phase me, I want to just have great performance with experience and windows does not provide that.
Russ comes off especially cool in this setting for some reason.
Right? I’m noticing this awesome aura too. 😂
Russ’s voice sounds much different here than his normal videos.
Different mics
@@NerdNestAnd I guess he had to speak loudly which might pitch the voice up, compared to recording in his silent studio.
Yeah the speakers were pointed away from us (and towards the crowd) so it was really hard to hear ourselves and each other, so yeah I had to speak much more loudly thank normal!
@@RetroGameCorps that military voice rise up!
It’s not Russ it’s a doppelgänger!!!
This was great!!! Thank you guys so much. :)
2 handhelds I'm looking forward to in the future: the Steam Deck successor, and the Switch successor. Otherwise, my Steam Deck OLED, Retroid Pocket 4 Pro, and Switch are all I need.
Still love to see the market, competition, and communities grow since these are my favorite pieces of gaming tech of all time, so with that I appreciate all of the work you guys do!
I’m a Legion Go main! Man this is such a great podcast , love this show! The fact you guys did this live is awesome, wish I could’ve caught it. You guys have great chemistry, should totally do another live show and have bob on the pod more often 👍
Same, but I have steam os on it now (bazzite). I still keep windows on a partition, but I almost always use linux.
Isaiah here, thanks for answering my question at the end of the video! Really awesome meeting everyone!
I am so glad to have this episode! The funko moment for Bill was when you know you have made it 😂
Wouldn’t mind a Bob Wulff funko with his dog and a cup of coffee
@@SmartFool24 that would be so awesome. With a Will Wulff and his comics on the side 😂
A great video and pretty awesome to see you all together. Also a bonus having Bob there too!
Probably but I'm just glad this market is alive and thriving.
01:26 ME:
Haha just kidding, honestly, just 1min in.. I can already tell this is one of the best episoded 2024.
Props to you for scaling up & presenting this an inperson scale, i can imagine its a nerve wracking difference from doing a podcast at home & infront of an audience
I love how much Bob and Russ look like best buds.
I think out of all the handhelds, Valve is in a position with the store to treat the Steam Deck as a generational device unlike laptop manufacturers. The OLED is kind of like the GOTY of the LCD. Would like to have, but still rocking the LCD daily. I think my biggest gripe with the Deck (no, not the track pads, I play wow and despite addons, having a trackpad is awesome for mouse), it's the OS. I ditched my desktop for the steam deck due to budgets, and I miss the flexibility of a standard Linux distro. Would love if Valve took a approach like Bazzite, and offshoot everything distro related to a big boy like Fedora and their atomic blue desktops (I know the Phawx will stop me dead right here, I know I know...). Great show, you guys rocked that panel!
As someone who is slow to upgrade devices and components, I still love my Steam Deck and use it daily.
It's really cool seeing the NNP crew all together! I really enjoy the podcast!
Love the content guys!! Been a gamer since the 90s appreciate the work you all put in to keep us informed. From across the pond. (England)
So awesome to see all of you together LIVE!!
I was at too many games to see this live panel, unfortunately I was in the wrong area and missed more than half of it 😞 Regardless it was great to see you guys and too many games was really fun and had a great time. I agree with the sentiment of too many handhelds. It may not be for everyone, but the Steam Deck has been the king device for me. I'm all for competition in the market but like phawx said, how many devices will they slap the same hardware in and brand it as something better or amazing than what's already out there.
This was great to see you guys talk face to face.
The RoG Ally X is what it was supposed to be when first launched...
Dual USB-C'S... SD card reader...for storage expension....and full length SSD storage...
Also, a normal standardized Dock with charge pass through / HDMI output / usb-c's / usb-a's...
🧐🤓
In 5 years handhelds will be what they should have been today and so on and so forth
It was a first gen product. It's to be expected
Love my Ally. There’s nothing wrong with it!
@johnwebsterification u probably just got lucky cause many Ally users had their micro sd slot fried and stuff.
Main reason why i avoided buying one. Also Asus has been very shady lately and their reputation is dwindling
@@heyjeySigma oh no my sad card reader bricks sd cards. Turns them into read only. I just don’t care. It’s such a great device. It’s too cheap a device to deal with warranty issues.
Fantastic video … subscribed to all of your channels and watch/lime everything you guys make.
Really like these guys. Russ' channel is really amazing on hand held.
Amazing . Thank you been waiting for this!!’ Wish I could have been there
Yoooooo Bob Wolff cameo??? Make him a regular member of the podcast!!
Bob does a podcast every week with his brother. You should check it out. I don't know that he has time to join the Nerd Nest on the regular, but he's always welcome.
Bob left thst other guy to work on his own show more.
@Russ at 7:15 We've reached a situation where we're at the VCR-ification of handhelds. Any plays anything. Get the one that fits you best.
Im so happy the video came out good!!
Still sad I couldn’t come but I am so estatic I can still watch after the fact, thanks for making my day just a little better with every episode :D
What a legendary panel! Great episode.
Miyoo Flip is going to be my end game retro emulation device. I have a GPD Win Mini for higher end emulation and AAA titles and for retro emulation I have an RG35XXSP but lack of thumbsticks made me buy the RG35XXH and I find myself playing the H more. I prefer clamshells so the Miyoo Flip could potentially replace both my SP and H.
This is freaking awesome! I am so upset I couldn't attend.
Attempting to support all these devices from the software side is also exhausting. I have been trying to keep everything going on ChimeraOS and I am burnt out. I'd rather focus on improving existing hardware than constantly needing to increase the workload every few weeks by adding a new handheld to reverse engineer and then support it in addition to what already has been worked on.
I desperately feel for you and I can't imagine. I've been reviewing the Ally X and in the process, I reported some issues and provided some info to Bazzite devs. I'll reach out to you next time as well to see how I can help. It's an incredible and mostly thankless burden but I do appreciate the work you've done.
What has kept me going has been reading nice comments and watching videos that people create. It is hard to believe I have been doing the grind for nearly three years now. There is actually a lot of things that the community has come together on to do all the incredible things that go unnoticed to the end user (This is a good thing, it means it is working). I have been thinking about reaching out to join a nerdnest podcast at some point and have been holding off. It would be nice to share the stories and experiences my fellow devs/enthusiasts and I have gone through with the rest of the handheld community.
@@ruineka_one Feel free to reach out to me on Discord (KodeAndGame) or Twitter (FanTheDeck). Bill has control over the guests but I'd be happy to do something more in-depth on Chimera on my channel as well.
I totally agree that the community has really been quite the motivator at times. It's amazing to see the dedication that so many people have.
Love it thx. Sticking with my LCD Deck even as I fight the FOMO of the OLED. Question to consider: which of the retro handheld makers that are flooding the market do you think are really into gaming vs trying to capitalize on a market? Which ones seem truly passionate about it and getting it right?
Buying slightly older pc handhelds isn't the same as buying a switch (for example) when the switch 2 comes out in 6 months.
Simply because on PC you're library of games will carry over to the new handheld.
Console's require another level of investment. Not just the console, but the money for the new library of games
For the Android Handheld...
The WINLATER...pc emulator is improving....
At the moment...
There are UA-cam videos:
Testing pc games...
Cup Head and other indies games...
Also...
Running RPCS3 emulator for PS3 on certain Android devices...
Ex:
Mirror Edge
Tekken × Street fighter
Virtual Tennis...
On my A-O2 Pro Black Edition....AYN Odin 2 Pro...
Turning your Android device into a Virtual Machine ...
An emulator running within another emulator....
Awesome...
🙃🧐🤓🤯
I use the Steam Deck and RP4pro. I think they compliment each other cuz one is very small while the other is very powerful.
I was looking to purchase a handheld recently. Looked at the Ally X because it's more powerful and the 1080p screen (Crisp HQ Visuals are important to me) but damn... the price was so much higher than last years model. If you're gonna refresh it, fine. Discontinue the old model and keep the price the same for the new. Ended up getting the OLED Steam Deck.
Just ordered that animal crossing switch lite. I thought I knew myself.
To be honest, I expected it to be a little more awkward, but the show turned out great, very lively and not too “scripted,” everyone had time to talk and the topics themselves were interesting. Well done 👏
Thanks. Though to be clear. None of this was scripted.
@@NerdNest Got it 👌
Up to this point in recent times there have been big enough improvements and upgrades in the devices in each price tier that it stays exciting.
Now the upgrades are slight or side grades. Me personally, I'm just waiting for the "perfect Android device", now that we've kinda hit a cap on performance due to the apps limitation. A Odin mini with OLED would probably be what it took for me to sell most of my retro machines and stick with one for a long time.
A retro handheld isn't obsolete, what I personally did was turn my steam deck into a ultimate retro handheld, I will be able to power it on and play for years to come, over 5,000 games including a switch library of every great game. Now for PC handheld gaming I use my legion go. I've turned my ally into a desktop PC for my son. He will get years of play out of it. I'm the guy who needs them all though.
Great suggestion from Bob about using your elite prestige of UA-cam fame to affect real change in the handheld marketplace.
FIGHT THE POWAHH✊
Excellent show guys
By the way...
Awesome content from my top techie nerds...
🙃🧐🤓😎🤯
I love the size of the Steam Deck. I have a Switch OLED as well. No way would a clam shell work for me, neither would a smaller size. Though I’m using it to play Mass Effect, Dragon Age Inquisition & Baldur’s Gate 3. Games like I play have tiny details I need to be able see.
Also, just want to say that my hope is that tb5 will be the one cable solution for egpu's. When MSI figures out their stuff and puts a tb5 port on their handheld, I will buy it.
I just really love Russ and Phawx ❤
What a bunch of nerds
Nice 👌 you guys are an awesome team
Russ's mic compressor and equalizer at home does miracles apparently lol, sounds totally different here
These are not great microphones. And Russ was farthest from the wireless base station
@@NerdNest I'd rather believe this is how he sounds on real life lol
It isn't. haha
I doubt too many handhelds will cause a crash. Today with the internet there are so many tiny subgroups within subgroups that like weird things for the hell of it. Think about phones. Every month like 10,000 phones come out in varying quality-but it’s never killed the phone. People just stick to the brands they like. When ET came out, it didn’t cost 40 dollars to get a Linux handheld that could play that ET and 100,000 other games up to the Dreamcast. They were stuck paying 40 for that game alone, and they didn’t really know how bad it was until they spent the money and got home. haha. Besides, it’s games that make the system.
I'm mainly concerned with the short console-life and saturation because it means that there's going to be less console specific support and polished aftermarket options/mods. So when you buy a emulation handheld, you have to make peace with the fact that there will pretty much be zero support for the device in 5 years at most, and even expect the hardware to fail sooner rather than later. At least with the Nintendo handhelds we have aftermarket support for more than 20+ years later. Right now the market is moving so fast CFW devs and hardware mods largely target either the fad handheld (Miyoo Mini for example) or try to create mods that can be used by multiple devices, because the use all the same hardware. Any niche handheld isn't worth supporting, and pretty much gets forgotten immediately.
Thank you ❤
Glad you were able to get the footage for this. Really think this is one of the better podcasts in a while. Not really sure why though, and I don't think it's because of Bob being there, even if I do enjoy his content and perspective.
In person > remote
I'm sorry, but are those Phawx Mugs?
They are.
@@NerdNest I need one!
He said they aren't for sale. haha
47:00 Bob wants Nintendo to release a Nintendo Switch Lite. It just doesn't exist yet!! Why don't they make one!! ;)
This was fantastic
Yeah man, I wanna watch this!
Yes, im getting handheld fatigue from anbernic.
Here’s some food for thought: is not that we have an unjustified short PC handheld cycle, is that games aren’t developed for handhelds. Games are developed for the PS5, Xbox X and sometimes for the Switch. Until the handhelds catch up on the console generation, or the developers start to target a single handheld, there’s always going to be a short cycle to catch up. Without a long lasting target it’s always going to be a race between latest games and latest hardware.
But the crash of ET was due to abundance of poor quality games, not abundance of poor quality consoles. It only takes a “quality seal” to distinguish what’s worth it from what’s bad, specially in modern age where we common people have so much more influence on shared media, discussions on Reddit, UA-cam, etc. if a product is good people will be aware of it, same thing with bad products. By releasing 100 devices an year these Chinese companies are only making their life harder, but they’re not a threat to Asus or Valve
Not the one, the trifecta, the powerhouse, the handheld and the micro
Poor Russ looks like he's getting bullied by "Yeah, man. I wanna do it."
Town & Country Surf! I sucked at that game and only now do I wonder how that game based on the local store icons for t&c came to be on Nintendo.
Let's goo 🎉
The ‘Nerd Nost’ Bill? ;-)
Yep, changing the name of the show.
First time I've ever seen you nervous lol
I was very nervous haha.
You all totally rocked it. Please do more live events. The stumbles, such as they are, just make it more real IMO. Much rather watch The Nerd Nest in the theatre than at the cinema. Have a wonderful weekend Bill.
Would love to.
That was great I wish they allowed you to talk longer
I wish this was like 2 to 3 hours lomg you guys 😢
The gaming phone was already tried by Sony the Xperia Play. But maybe with current hardware seeing how the iphone can play real AAA games. Maybe it would sell better
For the hand held.
Steam deck always, with it till the end 🤘
Too many handhelds is not a thing 🎉
I wish that the new pc games came with controler suport. Special, survival open world.
It’s far too easy to get in the “I need the best” mindset with all the handhelds. It’s great to have the options if you can stick to the “this is the best, for me, and I’m going to stick with it for at least a few years” mindset though, which is what I have always tried to stick to with hardware.
They let AI script the commercial 😂
I don't feel like the industry is out of control- it's pretty much Anbernic that seemingly just can't stop releasing new handhelds every few weeks.
Too many handhelds ;-D but too less steam decks in asia. Wondering why valve can still not deliver enough steam decks to asia.
Just when I started wondering, mannnn where is the too many games viiiiiid, it uploads. 😂😂😂
Bill you’re a FUNKO now??? 🤣🤣🤣
I guess haha.
That’s freakin awesome! 😂😂 Congrats!!
The phawx the only one coming through with the LTT backpack. Come on, Bill, you got get your youtube swagger up. Where's your LTT backpack/jerry rig everything knife 🔪 🤔
At the start it was kinda awkward to see you guys together and I guess you were nerves a little, but man it was great. You should do this more often
Ye man i wanna do it
Awesome
haha wow there are actual live events talking about handhelds, nice. Amazed to see some actual women in the audience 😂
Id blame this on sony, they should have just given us what we truly wanted a psvita 2
This was awesome big fan of all of you…I started my PC handheld journey on the steam deck and absolutely loved it. Then I got a Lenovo Legion Go and absolutely love it. It’s one of my favorite devices I’ve gotten in a long time.
I like Bob.
Username checks out
That was better than porn, thanks guys HA!
Yea man I want to do it NO DIDDY 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Show needed to be at least 2 hours . Hopefully you get more time next time
R.I.P Cryobyte33
He’s still around and we talk all the time. He just doesn’t do the podcast any more.
@@NerdNest ah cool. Good to know
i like you bill like kratos
Quiet boy
@@NerdNest i like that ❤️👍
25:12 lmao out of touch
You guys have mics. Why the yelling? lol.
The mics were…. Not great
Russ saying that we don't get enough time with our devices these days before a new hand held is released....... Simple way to fix that. Buy a device you like and then don't go on the internet searching out what the latest and greatest is. You can play your device until it craps out. If it plays retro games now, it will be playing them years from now. No need to upgrade at all just to play the same emulated games. Comparing the lifespan of these new Chinese handhelds that are released very quickly one after another to a hand held that plays dedicated games is ridiculous. Of course a dedicated Nintendo or other big name handheld is going to have a long lifespan before another is released. They need to wring as much money out of the system before moving on, unlike a Chinese hand held made for emulation, that has no game development costs. They just release them and people keep buying them. What a waste of money.
I totally understand and agree that first-party devices and these emulation handhelds are in a different category, but the issue I was trying to present was that this is not how many of our brains are hard-wired, because we grew up in a traditional console release cycle and mindset. So it's a perspective shift, while many of us aren't prepared to detach from the old way of thinking, especially when these devices are associated with nostalgia.
@@Whatsup_Abroad to be clear, I was speaking about the primary devices I review on my channel, which are smaller, cheaper handhelds focused on emulation, that are often at the same or similar performance level. They unfortunately don't have the luxury of just getting slapped with Windows, instead there is an entire community centered around tweaking and perfecting each device and chipset. When there is an overabundance of devices, it overwhelms those of us who develop and create guides for each device, like I mentioned in this video -- a slower pace would be a boon for the community, as it would give them time to mature and become beloved. I've watched many developers abandon their projects and it's generally because they can no longer maintain their software with all of the various devices that drop every few weeks.
For handheld PCs, I agree that they are just laptops in a different form factor. I have no major issues with their frequent releases, I think it's good for the industry because they will just keep getting better. There will always be people who feel slighted when the new one comes out, much as it happens with laptops, but that wasn't the issue I was focusing on in this discussion.