The Empire forgot that they were training regular human rather than the Clones that were literally bred without any knowledge of the outside world from within their military structures. Because of this many within the Empire military had low morale especially when their own government considered them as expendable pawns.
"The Empire improves every system it touches. Judge by any metric. Safety, prosperity, trade, opportunity, peace. Compare Imperial rule to what is happening now. Look outside. Is the world more peaceful since the revolution? I see nothing but death and chaos." - The Client from Mandalorian Season 1.
You missed one thing about the Yinchorr Academy training: Sidious fills his Royal Guards with some of, if not the strongest sense of loyalty out of the other imperial forces you mentioned by calling them his children. He made his guards feel like they were guarding a father. When their ‘father’ died, many of the Imperial Guards killed themselves after they failed to safeguard the Emperor and therefor were absolutely devoid of a purpose.
@@WD-41469 The only thing that matches Sidious’s manipulative abilities is his ego and arrogance. He turned Anakin into Darth Vader because he wanted to use Anakin’s power like someone would use a tool or a weapon, but he also did it for his own ego.
@@brok56 Darth Sidious often called Vader ‘my friend’ like he wanted to keep him feeling like his master was all he had left, probably thinking it’d help keep him in line. With the Imperial Guards, he made them feel as if they were in a position much like a father taking in adopted children. It really was fucked up and sinister.
All Imperial military units: *Go through a lot of brutal and nightmarish training* Rebels equipped with plot armors: Hello there! You Imperials are the bold ones.
@@teleportedbreadfor3days no those would be the Dark Troopers you're thinking of. Death Troopers are human with some enhancements and are primarily used as bodyguards for special dignitaries and Officer's kind of like the Clone Shock Troopers.
Soldiers in most armies (particularly in the developed world) are trained very rigoursly and strictly to the point where they start thinking like a team and less like individuals, even becoming automaton-like but they do still have their names and some individual identity. They're not completely dehumanized
Half the people we saw them shooting at where powerful in the force. As shown in rogue one people powerful in the force can be somewhat protected by it allowing them to walk through a rain of blaster bolts.
Thanks to Geetsly, now I know that a Stormtrooper recruit somehow accidentally blew up an entire moon as a failed prank. Imagine that being featured in the HoloNet’s version of FailArmy.
How come the antimatter didn’t blow up the little box of matter that was holding it? Battery-powered containment field?? Ohhhhh, the batteries died, antimatter touches matter, moon goes ****.
_"We are set out to fight the same war that we have fought many times before, but the outcome will be different because we are different_ _The Empire is a place of tradition and conviction. A place where the strongest rule and those who achieve the most claim the greatest rewards. That is what sets us apart from our enemy_ _In the Empire war is a way of life, conquest is a right, the strongest are entitled to everything they claim!_ _The Empire is ruled by the strongest. The Empire IS the strongest_ _You are soldiers of the Empire, the greatest army to ever march across the galaxy_ _Take up your weapons, charge into the heat of battle, and win!_ _Now the Republic will face the true strength of our Empire. Now they will face....YOU!"_ -Excerpt from Empire's Military Graduation Speech
I think one line from Crimson Empire put what Yinchorr is in a nutshell: "[Burr] Danid didn't beg for mercy. He wouldn't be granted any either." As Darth Vader kicked the defeated and injured Burr Danid into the pit below the Squall.
Yeah, was thinking of same…Vader would have received a lot of loyalty and respect had he beheaded the guard gladiator style, rather than kicking him to his death. Could come in handy next time he’s in a room alone with a squad of them, and they happen to remember how he disrespected one of their brothers. Of course, how tough can they be after the trouncing that skinny chick in the movie gave them.
people often think (because of fiction) that brutal training and a hard life are enough to make someone truly strong, skilled, or powerful. but this is only half true, without a strong, happy, and even hopeful base to support them when things get bad, 9 times out of 10 a hard life and brutal training will only screw up someone's head. even if you made them strong, they are no longer someone you can put your faith in. case in point Tarkin. The Empire's brutal training plus how quickly they had to mass produce everything on vast scales. more than likely backfired on them producing weakness and instability rather than strength
I think Stormtrooper skill and training level are possibly the most variable things in Star Wars. Some (mostly old Legends) sources portray them all as elite warriors, having gone through all of the stuff mentioned in this video; while on-screen they usually appear to be poorly trained conscripts who get beaten up by teddy bears. I personally quite like the idea that while all Stormtroopers go through a lot of indoctrination, their actual military training (i.e. how to shoot a gun) is rather short and basic at most academies due to the Empire placing speed of training and absolute loyalty over actual combat skills.
Makes you wonder how they raised such a massive military with such elite training. I’m sure there were many other academies and boot camps, but still. Also makes you wonder how the training is for non combat roles, like Navy Crewmen.
Revan cause Revan took everything the jedi stood for and threw it out the window shouting you are all idots you will cause your own destruction no one believed until he kick down the door with an army
After watching this video, I felt sympathize to the Imperial Stormtroopers. You can joke them because of their terrible aim but it made more sense now that they had a suffered brutal & cruel psychological warfare, both physically and mentally. A prime example is Finn from the Sequel Trilogy. The scene at the beginning where Finn tried to help his comrade, only for the latter died in front of him which brought his senses back into a human nature from being a cold, stoic soldier into a scared person now. In my opinion, the Stormtroopers are the Star Wars version of Germany's Wehrmacht from WW2. Both fought for the nation they serve yet they serve the wrong government.
While the training for the Royal Guards (apart from the forceful recruitment) and Stormtroopers could be somewhat justified since they are supposed to be the best of the best, the training for the regular army seems way over the top. Overall they are losing a lot of potentially efficient and competent people due to ridiculously sadistic training methods like the live-fire exercises with one another and the week of simulated interrogation.
It makes a lot of us question why people would even serve the Empire, if this is how the recruits are being treated. This is made all the more worse; when some of these academies put you through live fire exercises. These brutal exercises make Navy SEAL training look like gym class at school!
I’m all for hard and grueling training that creates elite caliber and battle ready soldiers but I’m about making sure the military gets all of what it needs which means all of the recruits will survive training if even wit a few scares. But then again I still have 5 months before I got through Marine Corp training so this may still may not sound feasible
They didn't amplify them. Hondo's Pirates were told to disband, they completely destroyed several major crime rings and crippled the Pykes, Hutts and Black Sun, and they created a bigger middle class.
The amount of unnecessary deaths or seemingly brutality/ cruelty of some of the training and exercises makes me think of the Russian army hazing problems. It’s senseless, overly destructive and gives you brutes rather top notch soldiers.
@@michaelandreipalon359 If the Stormtroopers were that competent, the Rebels wouldn't have been a thing. Hence they're Butt Monkeys to watch and laugh at them getting taken down by Rebels and teddy bears.
🤔 . . . What about the other training facilities? Because I’d rather be piloting a transport to drop off stormtroopers in a boarding action, or simply steal rebel fighters & such to bring back to the empire (that last one, is part of a project to invade a galaxy far far away…)…
It's a good thing there is apparently a nearly endless supply of recruits like Gregor said, because otherwise with how much troops die during training they'd have no army left before they even got to the actual battlefields.
@@michaelandreipalon359 True. But Gregor did say nearly endless not completely endless, plus with how big the Star Wars universe is and how fast species can repopulate, or even be cloned, the possibility of them never running out is actually decently likely. (Yes. If only. That really got to me. It's like Marcy at the end of season 2 all over again, only worse. Other than that the rest was great).
...I think we'll see him again. Afterlifes can be charitable in the most precious of situations. Especially if said situations involve pure unadulterated karma against a certain threat, and I hope it involves ghosts.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Well, ghosts do exist in this universe, as seen in Wing it Like Witches. And even if we don't get an actual ghost, I'd settle for some angry Pailsmens tearing that madman apart from the inside out. That's the calculated risk one takes when they absorb others into their being, an inside attack.
The really funny part of the training at Yinchorr: in Legends one of the Royal Guards STILL betrayed Palpatine, and did so by sabotaging his spare bodies, thus setting up the chain of events that saw the Emperor literally dragged off to hell by a Jedi Master that had survived Vader at the cost of all his limbs.
As a Stormtrooper cosplayer, I can confirm that our training on carida is painful. Take my word for it. (Yes im joining the 501st legion nex year, and im currently in the galactic academy.)
it's a good way to show the "evil" empire but it is completely unreasonable, even if life itsself doesn't concern you training soldiers is expensive business, every potential soldier that dies in a dumb way is one less to use against your enemies
Most people forget that the Stormtrooper Corps is equivalent to the USMC. They’re a smaller, more elite force that works closely with the navy. The Imperial Army is the main force. As cool as stormtroopers look, I’m glad we’re getting to see more Imperial soldiers.
😂 dude my grandfather went through live amoe training during WW2 , he told me once in a while a man would lose it during training and stand up . Sadly you should know how that ended .
Empire: *Kills 99% of their best soldiers to "weed out weakness" so that they now have five guys who are really really good at stick-fighting instead of 500 guys who are really good at shooting people with guns* Empire: "Why are we losing???"
Maybe it's just because I read a lot of 40K and am used to some truly creepy induction ceremonies but Pers Pradeux's tomb march doesn't seem that weird.
All these intense academies, yet still Stormtroopers bump their heads into bulk heads and could not aim accurately. Addendum: the red echelon royal guards were so easily killed in the last Jedi. 😂
Parent: "You better get your act together or I'm sending you to the Imperial Military Academy on Careda". Child: "But that's a death sentence". Parent: "Exactly"
I love how stormtroopers are trained for years as elite soldiers and undergo harsh, unforgiving training and are defeated by rebel grunts with barely any training besides plot armor
And Vader didn't care much for who would become his future daughter-in-law. I'm sure even Anakin's force ghost was leery on his son's choice for his wife. Her hatred of sand was her one saving grace. In Anakin's book, anyone who hates sand can't be all bad.
@@TheWarwolf102 77% is very good mate, especially when they are rebel estimates and that they were taken after the Emperor died and thus training was much worse.
@@bluenight104 That wasn't for the average recruit though. This was for royal guards and only hardy people would be in those academies. The video makes it out to be the norm but these were elite academies, even in Skystrike such training was illegal.
Your video is awesome but I never managed to take that part of the lore seriously. I keep thinking of stormtroopers bumping heads and getting torn apart by ewoks. I can't figure how such training can result in that
Imperial Army officer: On Raithal i underwent 1 year of harsh training in my academy where many of my fellow cadets didn't survive Stormtrooper: Oh please, on Carida i underwent 2 years of brutal training in which i was put to the extreme, with extreme indoctrination in which i gave up any forms of individuality. Royal Guard: Amateurs. Stormtrooper's graduate: What was that, punk? Royal Guard: AMATEURS!!!!!
No, this guy is overstating. Live fire exercises were only permitted near the end of training, and that would only be for the 65th (yes they became a competent military unit under the Empire after Fox was executed by Vader) and 501st and stuff.
@@rexlumontad5644 They aren't bold faced lies, I read a book about Zare Leonis who had worked his way up to an elite academy, and they weren't doing live fire at all. General Hux's dad was present and he was doing illegal cultist things which involved recruiting cadets to become child soldiers and forcing them via various means to murder other students in 'accidents' during training (so the First Order did use live fire training) , but he gets found out and buggers off.
Bruh, even Warhammer 40k is at times less brutal than these camps at least the Ultramarine Blueberries allow their 10-year-old recruits to fail as long as they have some fight worthy of being a space marine.
No, this guy is overstating. Live fire exercises were only permitted near the end of training, and that would only be for the 65th (yes they became a competent military unit under the Empire after Fox was executed by Vader) and 501st and stuff.
@@rexlumontad5644 You'd have to ignore the films to say that. Cloud City and DS1 are easily explained by the films, and Endor is a hellhole so the fact that the stormtroopers had even survived was astonishing.
@@rexlumontad5644 See this is the argument you fell back on last time. public perception doesn't change the facts. Would COVID-19 not be deadly if people didn't believe it was deadly?
This kind of griping is why they kept getting killed by a spoiled brat , a smuggler , a daffy farmer and a bunch of teddy bears. Darth Vader should have been tougher on them , I am seriously surprised that Tarkin put up with their whining . I now understand why Vader was always in such a bad mood , his troops were cry babies .
No, this guy is overstating. Live fire exercises were only permitted near the end of training, and that would only be for the 65th (yes they became a competent military unit under the Empire after Fox was executed by Vader) and 501st and stuff.
Would be cool if we saw some battles only from the empire prospective. One where they loose badly and one where they get revenge and inflict a crushing blow to the rebels with overwhelming numbers.
I'd say Marchion Ro from the high republic Era. Dude waged a war against the republic and closed off a portion of the outer rim at the end of phase one. Can't wait for phase three to see what else he gets up to.
Tyber Zann. He was a pirate who gave the empire a run for its money, even going as far as to take control of the Eclipse at kuat and to help himself to palpatines vaults
It still makes me mad how Stormtroopers are portrayed in movies and such. They're more elite than they're given credit for. Rogue One did a good job showing how both sides would fight each other.
No, this guy is overstating. Live fire exercises were only permitted near the end of training, and that would only be for the 65th (yes they became a competent military unit under the Empire after Fox was executed by Vader) and 501st and stuff.
@@josephmcanderson7299 The point being that Warhammer is like that *in general* but Star Wars only had/has that for very elite people, and besides, it is more akin to WHF than WH40K
It's kinda interesting that the ground forces of the Empire were trained to accept loss even less than their commanding naval officers... But if you go back and watch the original trilogy you can see that this absolutely was the case, and they probably did this because preventing insurrections on ground level was in most cases more important to the Empire than conducting space battles by the time the Empire fully emerged.
Lore: Stormtroopers are overly trained to be the most competent soldiers in the universe. Movies and shows: Stormtroopers are as incompetent and idiotic as B1 Battle Droids
How can Stormtroopers still be so horribly ineffectual after such brutal and rigorous training? Did they spend so much time indoctrinating them and teaching them to withstand torture that they forgot to teach them how to shoot?
Say what you will about the Separatists; but at the very least they never treated their droids harshly during training! Just straight out from the factory they go, and there's that!
This is mostly exaggeration. While Yinchorr is serious, it is for Royal Guards, and that is more Sith than Empire. Prefsbelt and Carida were pre-imperial institutions so it is complete bs to blame the Empire for older traditions, it would be like modern mexicans for aztec sacrifices.
The Empire forgot that they were training regular human rather than the Clones that were literally bred without any knowledge of the outside world from within their military structures. Because of this many within the Empire military had low morale especially when their own government considered them as expendable pawns.
>t. brown hands that never had an empire typed this
@@Commander23c ok
It’s pretty sad they had so much loyalty to the empire to be held in little regard in return
@@Commander23c Ah, so morally pure hands, according to you?
Pretty sure they didn't forget, the system simply didn't care. And people followed the system, and thus, also didn't care.
"You are Stormtroopers. You are the keenest weapon in the Emperor's arsenal. Do not fail him. Do not fail me." -Alecia Beck
Proceed to get 360 no scope by Care bears in some random forest moon
What's that from? That line seems familiar
“That one didn’t age quite so well”
So they fail him miserabli by having an aime worst than a blind person
@@Kurama420 I bagged the world's fattest man-some Ewok Sniper
"The Empire improves every system it touches. Judge by any metric. Safety, prosperity, trade, opportunity, peace. Compare Imperial rule to what is happening now. Look outside. Is the world more peaceful since the revolution? I see nothing but death and chaos." - The Client from Mandalorian Season 1.
It’s that way because the empire nationalized everything like the bad people they were, so now everything is nuts.
i remember that speech from somewhere else
I haven’t seen the Mandalorian, but I’m guessing the Client was a human
Price of Freedom
@@stingerjohnny9951 He was
You missed one thing about the Yinchorr Academy training: Sidious fills his Royal Guards with some of, if not the strongest sense of loyalty out of the other imperial forces you mentioned by calling them his children. He made his guards feel like they were guarding a father. When their ‘father’ died, many of the Imperial Guards killed themselves after they failed to safeguard the Emperor and therefor were absolutely devoid of a purpose.
Damn. That is kind of messed up.
I knew that palpatine treated them with way More respect than vader, but To go To that lenght.
“Guards. Leave us.” It’s palatines own fault for leaving himself vulnerable. The guards weren’t even allowed in the room to protect him.
@@WD-41469 The only thing that matches Sidious’s manipulative abilities is his ego and arrogance. He turned Anakin into Darth Vader because he wanted to use Anakin’s power like someone would use a tool or a weapon, but he also did it for his own ego.
@@brok56 Darth Sidious often called Vader ‘my friend’ like he wanted to keep him feeling like his master was all he had left, probably thinking it’d help keep him in line. With the Imperial Guards, he made them feel as if they were in a position much like a father taking in adopted children. It really was fucked up and sinister.
Man, You really gotta admire the samurai influences in star wars. Even the hardcore stuff...😧
That awkward moment when more and more of the video reminds you of actual Boot Camp, excluding the excessive death tolls of course.
Why wouldn't it? Why wouldn't the fictional military training camps take inspiration from real ones?
All Imperial military units: *Go through a lot of brutal and nightmarish training*
Rebels equipped with plot armors: Hello there! You Imperials are the bold ones.
After watching this me realizing these guys are at this point inhuman physically and mentally
I'd like to know what kind of training the Death Troopers and Navy Commandos went through they don't get nearly enough attention.
Well Death Troopers underwent augmentations to boost their capabilities. As for navy commandos, not sure.
@@neofulcrum5013 Death Troopers are basically the combine soldiers from Half Life 2. They even have the vocal scramblers!
Are we talking Star Wars Legends? I think it was the Death Troopers who were those big dark deadly suit or droids you see in Force Unleashed.
@@teleportedbreadfor3days no the ones with exoskeletons are Dark Troopers.
@@teleportedbreadfor3days no those would be the Dark Troopers you're thinking of. Death Troopers are human with some enhancements and are primarily used as bodyguards for special dignitaries and Officer's kind of like the Clone Shock Troopers.
*thumbnail*
Ezra Bridger: "Yup that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation."
Lol
Gotta love the In Media Res storytelling angle.
Clones: From numbers to *people*
Stormtroopers: From people to *numbers*
Mandalorians: From chad to GIGACHAD
@@Kurama420 Mandos are the best faction to join
That’s like any real military bro. You people are just so dramatic every little thing it really shows how little life experience you have.
@@Commander23c sounds like you’re the one projecting
Soldiers in most armies (particularly in the developed world) are trained very rigoursly and strictly to the point where they start thinking like a team and less like individuals, even becoming automaton-like but they do still have their names and some individual identity. They're not completely dehumanized
With that amount of training, we should expect a stormtrooper to hit a target within 5 meters-using stun shots
They have a 77% accuracy rating (from Rebel studies) at the End of Operation Cinder and the collapse of the Imperial Remnant
Too bad they suck at hitting their opponents and got themselves whooped like chewtoys.
The propaganda overhyped them up
@@neofulcrum5013 Rebel Propaganda (the movies themselves) underhyped them.
Half the people we saw them shooting at where powerful in the force. As shown in rogue one people powerful in the force can be somewhat protected by it allowing them to walk through a rain of blaster bolts.
Thanks to Geetsly, now I know that a Stormtrooper recruit somehow accidentally blew up an entire moon as a failed prank. Imagine that being featured in the HoloNet’s version of FailArmy.
Better than "accidentally" committing genocide.
How come the antimatter didn’t blow up the little box of matter that was holding it? Battery-powered containment field??
Ohhhhh, the batteries died, antimatter touches matter, moon goes ****.
_"We are set out to fight the same war that we have fought many times before, but the outcome will be different because we are different_
_The Empire is a place of tradition and conviction. A place where the strongest rule and those who achieve the most claim the greatest rewards. That is what sets us apart from our enemy_
_In the Empire war is a way of life, conquest is a right, the strongest are entitled to everything they claim!_
_The Empire is ruled by the strongest. The Empire IS the strongest_
_You are soldiers of the Empire, the greatest army to ever march across the galaxy_
_Take up your weapons, charge into the heat of battle, and win!_
_Now the Republic will face the true strength of our Empire. Now they will face....YOU!"_
-Excerpt from Empire's Military Graduation Speech
I think one line from Crimson Empire put what Yinchorr is in a nutshell:
"[Burr] Danid didn't beg for mercy. He wouldn't be granted any either."
As Darth Vader kicked the defeated and injured Burr Danid into the pit below the Squall.
Yeah, was thinking of same…Vader would have received a lot of loyalty and respect had he beheaded the guard gladiator style, rather than kicking him to his death. Could come in handy next time he’s in a room alone with a squad of them, and they happen to remember how he disrespected one of their brothers.
Of course, how tough can they be after the trouncing that skinny chick in the movie gave them.
people often think (because of fiction) that brutal training and a hard life are enough to make someone truly strong, skilled, or powerful. but this is only half true, without a strong, happy, and even hopeful base to support them when things get bad, 9 times out of 10 a hard life and brutal training will only screw up someone's head. even if you made them strong, they are no longer someone you can put your faith in. case in point Tarkin. The Empire's brutal training plus how quickly they had to mass produce everything on vast scales. more than likely backfired on them producing weakness and instability rather than strength
Yes. It can make for disloyal soldiers who hold that grudge for a long time.
I think Stormtrooper skill and training level are possibly the most variable things in Star Wars. Some (mostly old Legends) sources portray them all as elite warriors, having gone through all of the stuff mentioned in this video; while on-screen they usually appear to be poorly trained conscripts who get beaten up by teddy bears.
I personally quite like the idea that while all Stormtroopers go through a lot of indoctrination, their actual military training (i.e. how to shoot a gun) is rather short and basic at most academies due to the Empire placing speed of training and absolute loyalty over actual combat skills.
If the storm troopers were depicted as elite warriors in legends, imagine how legends would depict the average clone 🤪
I wish they portrayed them better. The way they're currently portrayed makes them look like a joke, which hurts storytelling
@@jamesashcroft8170 They exist to get shot down by the "good guys".
Yeah but clones had it worse
@@jamesashcroft8170 well they where also not meant to be the empire’s rank and file infantry but the writers just forgot about that
Makes you wonder how they raised such a massive military with such elite training. I’m sure there were many other academies and boot camps, but still. Also makes you wonder how the training is for non combat roles, like Navy Crewmen.
Video Idea: The Scariest Jedi to Exist
Anakin when thrown sand
@@santygarrido6283 that’s what really caused him to fall to the dark side
Revan cause Revan took everything the jedi stood for and threw it out the window shouting you are all idots you will cause your own destruction no one believed until he kick down the door with an army
I have one: Scariest clones to exist
@@brandonhughes4571 The 501st on Umbara
The reason they were able to use live fire exercises so much, is because they knew nobody would hit anything anyway.
Palpatine was honestly the reason the empire failed.
And tarkin.
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@@mystryj4771 Imperial Response Team standing by. Awaiting orders…
@@TY-PO Commands are simple. Take him in, or take him out.
@@edblake476 Understood, pushing the target. ETA: 5 minutes.
Now I want a video comparing clone trooper and stormtrooper training to see the similarities and differences between the two.
Clones definitely had it easier
After watching this video, I felt sympathize to the Imperial Stormtroopers. You can joke them because of their terrible aim but it made more sense now that they had a suffered brutal & cruel psychological warfare, both physically and mentally.
A prime example is Finn from the Sequel Trilogy. The scene at the beginning where Finn tried to help his comrade, only for the latter died in front of him which brought his senses back into a human nature from being a cold, stoic soldier into a scared person now.
In my opinion, the Stormtroopers are the Star Wars version of Germany's Wehrmacht from WW2. Both fought for the nation they serve yet they serve the wrong government.
While the training for the Royal Guards (apart from the forceful recruitment) and Stormtroopers could be somewhat justified since they are supposed to be the best of the best, the training for the regular army seems way over the top. Overall they are losing a lot of potentially efficient and competent people due to ridiculously sadistic training methods like the live-fire exercises with one another and the week of simulated interrogation.
Yes.
It makes a lot of us question why people would even serve the Empire, if this is how the recruits are being treated. This is made all the more worse; when some of these academies put you through live fire exercises. These brutal exercises make Navy SEAL training look like gym class at school!
Imperials who finish the camp: Emotional Damage!
*Very Effective*
I’m all for hard and grueling training that creates elite caliber and battle ready soldiers but I’m about making sure the military gets all of what it needs which means all of the recruits will survive training if even wit a few scares. But then again I still have 5 months before I got through Marine Corp training so this may still may not sound feasible
Be sure to come back to this when you get past MCT. It’s fun mocking the training in advertised Sci-fi genres when you’ve gone through the experience
I probably will
The Empire took all flaws of the republic, byproduct of its size and old habits, and amplified them to the point of making them an institution.
They didn't amplify them. Hondo's Pirates were told to disband, they completely destroyed several major crime rings and crippled the Pykes, Hutts and Black Sun, and they created a bigger middle class.
@@tk-6967 Sounds like they're amplified anyway
The amount of unnecessary deaths or seemingly brutality/ cruelty of some of the training and exercises makes me think of the Russian army hazing problems. It’s senseless, overly destructive and gives you brutes rather top notch soldiers.
Still, it'll be bad to the world if they end up scarily competent.
@@michaelandreipalon359 If the Stormtroopers were that competent, the Rebels wouldn't have been a thing.
Hence they're Butt Monkeys to watch and laugh at them getting taken down by Rebels and teddy bears.
🤔 . . . What about the other training facilities? Because I’d rather be piloting a transport to drop off stormtroopers in a boarding action, or simply steal rebel fighters & such to bring back to the empire (that last one, is part of a project to invade a galaxy far far away…)…
It's a good thing there is apparently a nearly endless supply of recruits like Gregor said, because otherwise with how much troops die during training they'd have no army left before they even got to the actual battlefields.
Endless? Humanity is expendable, so them being endless is admittedly sounding like vanity.
(If only magical familiars aren't that...)
@@michaelandreipalon359 Imperium from 40k: "Lol. Lmao."
@@michaelandreipalon359 True. But Gregor did say nearly endless not completely endless, plus with how big the Star Wars universe is and how fast species can repopulate, or even be cloned, the possibility of them never running out is actually decently likely.
(Yes. If only. That really got to me. It's like Marcy at the end of season 2 all over again, only worse. Other than that the rest was great).
...I think we'll see him again. Afterlifes can be charitable in the most precious of situations.
Especially if said situations involve pure unadulterated karma against a certain threat, and I hope it involves ghosts.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Well, ghosts do exist in this universe, as seen in Wing it Like Witches.
And even if we don't get an actual ghost, I'd settle for some angry Pailsmens tearing that madman apart from the inside out. That's the calculated risk one takes when they absorb others into their being, an inside attack.
The really funny part of the training at Yinchorr: in Legends one of the Royal Guards STILL betrayed Palpatine, and did so by sabotaging his spare bodies, thus setting up the chain of events that saw the Emperor literally dragged off to hell by a Jedi Master that had survived Vader at the cost of all his limbs.
Most extreme training the mind can think of yet you still get cannon fodder
Stormtroopers in a nutshell
Because of plot armor
As a Stormtrooper cosplayer, I can confirm that our training on carida is painful. Take my word for it. (Yes im joining the 501st legion nex year, and im currently in the galactic academy.)
it's a good way to show the "evil" empire but it is completely unreasonable, even if life itsself doesn't concern you training soldiers is expensive business, every potential soldier that dies in a dumb way is one less to use against your enemies
I think I'd prefer Clone trooper training - the Kaminoans were merciless eugenisists but at least they had processes designed to maximise output.
Most people forget that the Stormtrooper Corps is equivalent to the USMC. They’re a smaller, more elite force that works closely with the navy. The Imperial Army is the main force. As cool as stormtroopers look, I’m glad we’re getting to see more Imperial soldiers.
😂 dude my grandfather went through live amoe training during WW2 , he told me once in a while a man would lose it during training and stand up . Sadly you should know how that ended .
These academies sound like my high school years.
Empire: *Kills 99% of their best soldiers to "weed out weakness" so that they now have five guys who are really really good at stick-fighting instead of 500 guys who are really good at shooting people with guns*
Empire: "Why are we losing???"
Maybe it's just because I read a lot of 40K and am used to some truly creepy induction ceremonies but Pers Pradeux's tomb march doesn't seem that weird.
The best thing I can think of is because of this video being short, the description didn't have all the details or something
I wish they'd show them as more skilled in the films.
Most time they are skilled.
Problem is that ppl only look at the not skilled scenes
You didn’t watch rogue one did you?
@@neofulcrum5013 It sucks no main character actually got shot and perish
@@neofulcrum5013 it was okay I just wasn't in awe of the storm trooper tbh.
Some good fan films out there that do this.
I knew this from the start, this training method was worst than the clones, and more efficient. First dehumanize, then conquer.
Dude that was Han’s friend who tried to blow the emblem off the moon.
All these intense academies, yet still Stormtroopers bump their heads into bulk heads and could not aim accurately.
Addendum: the red echelon royal guards were so easily killed in the last Jedi.
😂
Yeesh, Geestly sure is pumping out a lot of videos this week.
All of that hard and still won't scratch the surface of a clone trooper. The empire could never.
Parent: "You better get your act together or I'm sending you to the Imperial Military Academy on Careda".
Child: "But that's a death sentence".
Parent: "Exactly"
More lore videos about the empire would be very welcome
I love how stormtroopers are trained for years as elite soldiers and undergo harsh, unforgiving training and are defeated by rebel grunts with barely any training besides plot armor
Man, the empire is alot more like the titanfall universe's IMC than i thought-
All that uncut raw training, and they still couldnt hit the flat side of a barn..
All that training just to be wiped by anyone with plot armor
The only good thing about being a Stormtrooper is that you get a good salary.
By Outer Rim standards
Not to mention leave and a psychiatrist in the event of a traumatic experience (like Kyle Katarn got in Legends)
And take out non plot armored Rebels
2:54 Mara Jade Skywalker during her Imperial service years.
And Vader didn't care much for who would become his future daughter-in-law. I'm sure even Anakin's force ghost was leery on his son's choice for his wife. Her hatred of sand was her one saving grace. In Anakin's book, anyone who hates sand can't be all bad.
The empire needed the most elite force the could muster to bring greatness to the galaxy. It’s brutal in the beginning but necessary in the long run
Spot on
Obviously not brutal enough considering all the defectors
@@TheWarwolf102 77% is very good mate, especially when they are rebel estimates and that they were taken after the Emperor died and thus training was much worse.
This level of brutality is wasteful and destructive to the wellbeing and moral of the trainees.
@@bluenight104 That wasn't for the average recruit though. This was for royal guards and only hardy people would be in those academies. The video makes it out to be the norm but these were elite academies, even in Skystrike such training was illegal.
Your video is awesome but I never managed to take that part of the lore seriously. I keep thinking of stormtroopers bumping heads and getting torn apart by ewoks. I can't figure how such training can result in that
Evil? Maybe. Effective and efficient? Absolutely.
Video Idea: Planet Ossus explained
The empire modeling after the sith doctrine of survival of the fittest was bound to have some cruelty and repercussions
3:50 Prank Rate 10/10
Imperial Army officer: On Raithal i underwent 1 year of harsh training in my academy where many of my fellow cadets didn't survive
Stormtrooper: Oh please, on Carida i underwent 2 years of brutal training in which i was put to the extreme, with extreme indoctrination in which i gave up any forms of individuality.
Royal Guard: Amateurs.
Stormtrooper's graduate: What was that, punk?
Royal Guard: AMATEURS!!!!!
when training is this harsh, it becomes kind of counter productive.
No, this guy is overstating. Live fire exercises were only permitted near the end of training, and that would only be for the 65th (yes they became a competent military unit under the Empire after Fox was executed by Vader) and 501st and stuff.
@@tk-6967 Such bold faced lies from an Imperial remnant with nostalgia glasses
@@rexlumontad5644 They aren't bold faced lies, I read a book about Zare Leonis who had worked his way up to an elite academy, and they weren't doing live fire at all. General Hux's dad was present and he was doing illegal cultist things which involved recruiting cadets to become child soldiers and forcing them via various means to murder other students in 'accidents' during training (so the First Order did use live fire training) , but he gets found out and buggers off.
Bruh, even Warhammer 40k is at times less brutal than these camps at least the Ultramarine Blueberries allow their 10-year-old recruits to fail as long as they have some fight worthy of being a space marine.
No, this guy is overstating. Live fire exercises were only permitted near the end of training, and that would only be for the 65th (yes they became a competent military unit under the Empire after Fox was executed by Vader) and 501st and stuff.
@@tk-6967 Too bad Stormtroopers still suck regardless no matter how much they're shilled
@@rexlumontad5644 You'd have to ignore the films to say that. Cloud City and DS1 are easily explained by the films, and Endor is a hellhole so the fact that the stormtroopers had even survived was astonishing.
@@tk-6967 Yet history will always remember Stormtroopers being Butt Monkeys to make fun at.
@@rexlumontad5644 See this is the argument you fell back on last time. public perception doesn't change the facts. Would COVID-19 not be deadly if people didn't believe it was deadly?
The empire as no use for weaknesses
2:09-2:18 That sounds like a cult ceremony, not a navy graduation ceremony.
The training camps are almost akin to real-life SPECOPS such as the SEALs.
the thumbnail is nice, but then i noticed the metro police stun-stick lol.
This kind of griping is why they kept getting killed by a spoiled brat , a smuggler , a daffy farmer and a bunch of teddy bears.
Darth Vader should have been tougher on them , I am seriously surprised that Tarkin put up with their whining .
I now understand why Vader was always in such a bad mood , his troops were cry babies .
Just another example as to why the Galactic Empire needed to be brought down.
Amen my friend :D
Down with the empire
Roger Roger
Roger Roger
No, this guy is overstating. Live fire exercises were only permitted near the end of training, and that would only be for the 65th (yes they became a competent military unit under the Empire after Fox was executed by Vader) and 501st and stuff.
If I were an imperial moff I'd have my troopers trained in the arts of slug throwers
3:56 this is something I expected Palpatine to do because in his eyes pulling shit like this is *"doing a little trolling"*
On screen they’re shy, it’s why they miss so much
Would be cool if we saw some battles only from the empire prospective. One where they loose badly and one where they get revenge and inflict a crushing blow to the rebels with overwhelming numbers.
If these schools were effective the stormtroopers wouldn't miss and you'd think they would adapt to their equipment like real soldiers
The thumbnail officer litteraly has a *half life 2 civil protection re-education stun baton* in his hand beating The shit out of a recruit.
Just shows that Geetsly might be a Half-Life fan, or it's just coincidence from the artwork used.
@@EnclaveSOC-102 who says i am a half life fan hehe.
The crowbar is still the superior. Heck, even the wrench from HL1: Opposing Force is far better.
@@michaelandreipalon359 no cap
All tough The stun stick from The half life 2 mod "entropy zero"
Says otherwhise.
Ah, nice to see a fellow player of that mod.
Who was the most infamous pirate in galactic history?
Hondo. Dude managed to capture Dooku, Anakin and Obi-Wan ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
I'd say Marchion Ro from the high republic Era. Dude waged a war against the republic and closed off a portion of the outer rim at the end of phase one. Can't wait for phase three to see what else he gets up to.
@@jeremytodd8745 i agree, who needs to be a edgy wizard when you have a plan and determination?
Niko Ocar
Tyber Zann. He was a pirate who gave the empire a run for its money, even going as far as to take control of the Eclipse at kuat and to help himself to palpatines vaults
It still makes me mad how Stormtroopers are portrayed in movies and such. They're more elite than they're given credit for. Rogue One did a good job showing how both sides would fight each other.
Video Idea: Quandale Dingle spooted in Star Wars RECADED a clone trooper.
It makes sense that the Imperial Royal Guard Academy would be vicious and deadly, like they are guards for the most important person in the empire.
3:50 to 3:58 well that escalated quickly
And then somehow Rebels show Ezra vibing with the Cadet
Totally a tone down version🤣
Think I’d prefer to jump head first in a trash compactor then deal with that shtick
Brings me back to the good ol' days
The first academy sounds the best by far.
Later that day, Geetsley’s was never seen again or heard from again. Definitely not from the empire.😅
If given a choice between ONE OR THE OTHER. Always choose.......OR.
If the Stormtroopers have the best training how come they couldn't aim?
It just got all Warhammer in here for a second.
No, this guy is overstating. Live fire exercises were only permitted near the end of training, and that would only be for the 65th (yes they became a competent military unit under the Empire after Fox was executed by Vader) and 501st and stuff.
Warhammer 40k: "Amateur."
@@tk-6967 Literally has nothing to do with Warhammer but okay....
@@josephmcanderson7299 The point being that Warhammer is like that *in general* but Star Wars only had/has that for very elite people, and besides, it is more akin to WHF than WH40K
@@tk-6967 Warhammer Fantasy: "Don't compare us. We are not the same."
Heyyy… Am I the only one who sees an imperial officer who holds the baton that looks very familiar to Civil Protection’s baton from Half-Life 2?
It's kinda interesting that the ground forces of the Empire were trained to accept loss even less than their commanding naval officers... But if you go back and watch the original trilogy you can see that this absolutely was the case, and they probably did this because preventing insurrections on ground level was in most cases more important to the Empire than conducting space battles by the time the Empire fully emerged.
Lore: Stormtroopers are overly trained to be the most competent soldiers in the universe.
Movies and shows: Stormtroopers are as incompetent and idiotic as B1 Battle Droids
It is so funny the amount of training and resources the empire put into training troops and piolets only to use them as cannon fodder.
How can Stormtroopers still be so horribly ineffectual after such brutal and rigorous training? Did they spend so much time indoctrinating them and teaching them to withstand torture that they forgot to teach them how to shoot?
It's called plot armor and the rebels have a lot of it
The likes of Hunter from The Owl House will not fondly like this kind of upbringing. Poor guy.
I’ll take my chances with the rebellion
When you have unlimited manpower you could allow yourself to do Yinchorr. Even allowing yourself to waste most of your best commandos.
Say what you will about the Separatists; but at the very least they never treated their droids harshly during training! Just straight out from the factory they go, and there's that!
Carida, everyday.
Sounds like Imperial Japanese navy flight academy where they washed out so many pilots that they missed them later in the war ...
There's no failure, except for everytime they're in movies
This is mostly exaggeration. While Yinchorr is serious, it is for Royal Guards, and that is more Sith than Empire. Prefsbelt and Carida were pre-imperial institutions so it is complete bs to blame the Empire for older traditions, it would be like modern mexicans for aztec sacrifices.