I'm not gonna lie, you've pretty much convinced me to stick with Vegas and not bother with Resolve. I've been using Vegas since Vegas 6 (this was before they had movie studio and pro versions and Vegas was just Vegas) and while it does crash from time to time, I'll take that over completely abandoning my workflow. People rag on Vegas all the time but I have yet to find another video editing software that makes the editing process fast and easy. If Resolve had a profile for Vegas like it foes for premiere & FC I'd have switched easily, but they don't and I know why, because resolve adds 2+ steps to every simple task where as it's usually a click and 1 key press in Vegas.
To 'un-convince' you... I made the switch from Vegas to Resolve at the beginning of the year and IMO the positives out weigh the negatives, so it's well worth it. While I fully agree there are certain tasks that are much smoother in Vegas (I've pointed out several of these on the official Resolve forum), there are plenty of benefits to Resolve so there is a trade off. Some tasks get harder, some tasks get easier and some tasks are now possible that I could never do in Vegas. There is nothing in Vegas that compares to the Fusion page in Resolve and once I wrapped my head around Fusion, I can't believe I ever did without it. I think that with some relatively simple tweaks Resolve could be just as good of an editor as Vegas, but Vegas is light years away from reaching the level of Resolve. I'd love for Black Magic to focus on getting the basics and the Edit page solid before adding any more fancy AI wizzardry. lol
@@Tekkerue My current workflow is to use fusion alone in DV. Grade my footage and render out in MP4 4k for editing in Vegas. Fusion is the only thing that makes DV any better. Vegas is miles more intuitive - and once you've got the rendered files out of DV, you don't get any crashing and don't need to add any effects in vegas. done!
@@Tekkerue I'd love for Black Magic to focus on getting the basics and the Edit page solid before adding any more fancy AI wizzardry. lol Oh, I so agree with that so much.
@@Trusteft Maybe this person's only effects are color grading the raw footage? I'm a Vegas user noob who has no idea what the Fusion page in Resolve is yet or how I'll feel once I even finish watching this video, let alone try my hand at editing in Davinci Resolve... it seems really hard to switch.
I had the same problems you did. I'm looking at Tutorials now and ran across your video. I'm tired of the saving after every change and the crashing. Two nights ago I stayed up all night trying to edit a video that should have taken 30 minutes (lots of clips and editing). It took me over 3 hours through the night to finish it. Vegas Pro crashed over 10 times. This was a record. Thanks for showing the difference between the interfaces. This is a great video. I Da Vinci downloaded and looking through the interface now.
Thank you so much, I've been through a similar journey, it's mind-boggling how Vegas has gotten worse with progressive releases in terms of stability. You tried everything to make Vegas work, and you've saved other people the trouble of wasting their time jumping through all those hoops. There ought to be a class action suit against Magix for false advertising. They should have to say up front that their application doesn't work!
Actually, guys, what I find out is it runs much better on a MAC Intel and now Mac M1 chip. I use both programs on my MAC M1 chip. I gave up on a Windows-based computer 7 to 8 years ago( HP) and switch to Mac and ran it on Bootcamp finishing up 76 episodes for broadcast TV. With minor crashes that I basically created. What I found out, running Vegas on Windows Centric machine... had too many different programs causing the whole system's problems. Running Vegas on a MAC, I don't get all those popped-ups.
Guy, like you I probably the longest Vegas Pro user. I've used Vegas Pro for years and produced over 71 TV shows for international markets on an iMac with Bootcamp. Since version 3. In the beginning, it was so stable, but when the Mac created the M1 chip and Parallels software was used, it became very buggy. Bootcamp was discontinued. Eight months ago, I finally made the switch. It was the best decision I ever made... previously, I used Vegas and After Effects workflow. It's now Davinci & Fusion and After Effects until I understand Fusion like I understand After Effects. On the iMac M1 chip, DaVinci does not crash and render so fast with multiple compositing and color grading. It's time to say goodbye to those 3 or 4 hour render times. DaVinci Resolve would edit a full color correction, 3D, and compositing in less than an hour. In addition, it takes less than several minutes to make a change. There are some things I miss about Vegas, but DaVinci Resolve is the future thanks to its new vocal separator which can remove background noise from a speaker in a matter of seconds. As with After Effects, the motion tracking and green screen are Hollywood-level in DaVinci Resolve. With more projects under my belt, it might be even better. Workflows for editing, color, audio, motion effects, and rendering are just a few taps away with Vegas. Too much time adjusting the window layout in Vegas, but you can save and create your window layout in Vegas but not as efficiently as in DaVinci Resolve tap system.
@@UA-camITA Guy, like you I probably the longest Vegas Pro user. I've used Vegas Pro for years and produced over 71 TV shows for international markets on an iMac with Bootcamp. Since version 3. In the beginning, it was so stable, but when the Mac created the M1 chip and Parallels software was used, it became very buggy. Bootcamp was discontinued. Eight months ago, I finally made the switch. It was the best decision I ever made... previously, I used Vegas and After Effects workflow. It's now Davinci & Fusion and After Effects until I understand Fusion like I understand After Effects. On the iMac M1 chip, DaVinci does not crash and render so fast with multiple compositing and color grading. It's time to say goodbye to those 3 or 4 hour render times. DaVinci Resolve would edit a full color correction, 3D, and compositing in less than an hour. In addition, it takes less than several minutes to make a change. There are some things I miss about Vegas, but DaVinci Resolve is the future thanks to its new vocal separator which can remove background noise from a speaker in a matter of seconds. As with After Effects, the motion tracking and green screen are Hollywood-level in DaVinci Resolve. With more projects under my belt, it might be even better. Workflows for editing, color, audio, motion effects, and rendering are just a few taps away with Vegas. Too much time adjusting the window layout in Vegas, but you can save and create your window layout in Vegas but not as efficiently as in DaVinci Resolve tap system.
Thank you, I got a Black Magic camera recently and it came with a DaVinci license. Been using Vegas since 2014, I am trying to get ready to switch, this video is v helpful.
If it helps anyone, I've been using Vegas por over 6 years and what fixed 99% of my crashes was switching from 16Gb Ram to 32Gb. Now it only crashes a few times if I'm making +25min HIGHLY edited videos, for anything below 20min or higher but with long clips it almost never crashes on me anymore. Off course better CPU and GPU also helps a lot for it to feel smooth, but the main reason for crashes are not having enough RAM.
Is the dirty little secret is that Vegas is unstable? I have expected crashes every three or four moves--for years. The more complex ur timeline the more it crashes so I've created work-around, but the number one reason for changing to a diff NLE (Resolve!) is for the abysmal customer service. It's funny to long for megacorp Sony, but Magixi is nearly indifferent to helping their customers. The one thing I sorely miss in Resolve (and Premier) is that u can't move the corsor unless u go to the top on the timeline, but already its easy to tell how much more robust is than Vegas. The use of nodes is revolutionary and I can't wait to learn how to use them.
I have the same growing pains. I've always used Vegas (I'm still on 12) but I've tried DaVinci because some formats weren't recognized in my old Vegas. Some of the stuff feels so weirdly complicated.... I guess just different but it's rough.
I’m in that boat where Vegas crashes enough over the years going through 3 completely different rigs that I constantly hit Ctrl+S, and I keep hearing about how good Davinci Resolve is so it’s nice to hear input from someone who’s already made the switch.
Wanna stay Vegas tbh. Workflows fast. Nothing after 13 is stable honestly I know few people that use it. Willing ti try other things tho haven't given up just yet plus a new pc bulld soon
To fix sony vegas crashes or at least to reduce by 95%, you have to transcode your video from compressed codec like x264 to an intermediate codec like apple pro res 422 BEFORE you start editing. You'll fix a lot of crashes and you'll have zero lag. Codec like x264 are not meant to be the best to editing but just to be smaller in size. On the other side with intermediate codec you'll get MASSIVE file sizes, but a very good edit experience. I was almost forgetting to say that: for video editing this is like night and day, i can assure you.
On Vegas if you disable resample on all clips, end irrelevant tasks in task manager, import clips instead of dragging and set as high priority the crashes cut down immensely, that said I still want to try Davinci resolved to se what's up?
Damn, good to know you were having similar problems with Vegas. I just made a CPU upgrade to fix timeline lag and crashes but absolutely nothing has changed.
Why, do U think, your timeline is lagging? I edit 4k50fps on mine and no lagging on gtx970 and intel 2.3 (4 cores) and 16g ram. R U putting x264/5 files onto your timeline?
@@utube521 How long are your projects with how many edits? Also which version of Vegas do you use? My guess is any number of those types of reasons could be the difference. I know smaller projects I have much less issue with. Also just reread your comment, I missed you asking about x264. I was in fact using x264 at that time which I realize is bad practice. I’m sure that also contributed a bunch.
@@ChriSaito The length of the timeline doesn't matter. It's all to do with the format of the files on your timeline. I use only Lagarith or Prores. Vegas loves both of them, but I think it loves Lagarith more as the files are in rgb and in full range.
@@utube521 huh, that’s odd because my shorter projects have no issues. I haven’t done any editing in a while but I’ll make sure to use better formats when I next pick it up!
You have to use the RIGHT codec to edit, like apple prores 422, if you have to do simple things you can handle fine with x264, but if you have to REALLY edit with fancy stuff it will be a pain to edit with the wrong codec.
For me, the solution to eliminate almost 100% of Vegas crashes was processing all my video clips through Handbrake h264 BEFORE importing into Vegas. I think it's basically CODEC bug. I just can't edit files direct from my Sony camera, Vegas will crash with a simple Pan/Crop adjustment.
I'm sorry, but you can't judge such complex software like DaVinci Resolve after a few days. I also switched over a year ago and haven't regretted it for a day, because there are so many more ways to import clips than in this video been shown, and the many filter options in the Media Pool and the much better clarity in the Color Tab were not discussed at all, and there is a lot more that was not mentioned and that offers clear advantages, I don't never want to switch to another NLE . Fortunately, what was mentioned and what has impressed me again and again from day one is the incredible stability and performance with all effects.I hope you're having a lot of fun with Davinci resolve by now and I apologize for my bad English. Best regards, Karl
Vegas is light years ahead in terms of ease of use. A millions times ahead. Davinci can do more and is more stable. Stability wins because time is short, so I will reluctantly switch soon but I'm giving Vegas 20 a demo first before I give up on it completly. I understand about re encoding the footage I use before putting it in Vegas will try that first
5:43 just select the clip and press F to open the source file on the side view with in and out selected. 8: 35 you can also right click on the split of the two clicks and the add cross dissolve. 11:10 I think for that you just have to press alt + y to select everything past your cursor. And BTW, you can change almost all the shortcuts of the edit page and the other pages, like I have Q and W set to ripple delete left and right of cursor like premiere which is super fast.
This was really helpful, thank you! I had been using Vegas since 2017, and it has always crashed no matter what! I have an AMD processor also. I finally have gotten tired of paying per month to use Vegas, it's not even a cheap price for the service. I heard DaVinci Resolve 17 was free to use, so I'm going to download it and try it out and save me the hefty fee of paying for Vegas every month.
I have both, original Vegas Pro user. However, once I loaded Vegas to run on a Mac. It ran perfectly using bootcamp and now Mac M1 chip parallel. I produced 76 episodes on Vegas on my old Mac. But the new M1 Chip was giving me problems so I jump on DaVinci Resolve 18 Studio. DaVinci Resolve 18 has some of the editing style of Vegas but don't have the transitions, text and the compositing features. So i go back and forth... but I know Fuse is where you use for 3d compositing.
@@chiranadevsath8315 Yes, I do too... Boris, Mocha and After Effects on the Mac. Well, I finally got Vegas to run just like the old iMac converting to the new Mac M1 chip. Of course, it was missing a lot of upgrades that you had to add. I had a 6-hour render time without any errors. Not crashing anymore, just hours of editing.
Like you I probably the longest Vegas Pro user. I've used Vegas Pro for years and produced over 71 TV shows for international markets on an iMac with Bootcamp. Since version 3. In the beginning, it was so stable, but when the Mac created the M1 chip and Parallels software was used, it became very buggy. Bootcamp was discontinued. Eight months ago, I finally made the switch. It was the best decision I ever made... previously, I used Vegas and After Effects workflow. It's now Davinci & Fusion and After Effects until I understand Fusion like I understand After Effects. On the iMac M1 chip, DaVinci does not crash and render so fast with multiple compositing and color grading. It's time to say goodbye to those 3 or 4 hour render times. DaVinci Resolve would edit a full color correction, 3D, and compositing in less than an hour. In addition, it takes less than several minutes to make a change. There are some things I miss about Vegas, but DaVinci Resolve is the future thanks to its new vocal separator which can remove background noise from a speaker in a matter of seconds. As with After Effects, the motion tracking and green screen are Hollywood-level in DaVinci Resolve. With more projects under my belt, it might be even better. Workflows for editing, color, audio, motion effects, and rendering are just a few taps away with Vegas. Too much time adjusting the window layout in Vegas, but you can save and create your window layout in Vegas but not as efficiently as in DaVinci Resolve tap system.
@@chiranadevsath8315 I probably the longest Vegas Pro user. I made the switch. I've used Vegas Pro for years and produced over 71 TV shows for international markets on an iMac with Bootcamp. Since version 3. In the beginning, it was so stable, but when the Mac created the M1 chip and Parallels software was used, it became very buggy. Bootcamp was discontinued. Eight months ago, I finally made the switch. It was the best decision I ever made... previously, I used Vegas and After Effects workflow. It's now Davinci & Fusion and After Effects until I understand Fusion like I understand After Effects. On the iMac M1 chip, DaVinci does not crash and render so fast with multiple compositing and color grading. It's time to say goodbye to those 3 or 4 hour render times. DaVinci Resolve would edit a full color correction, 3D, and compositing in less than an hour. In addition, it takes less than several minutes to make a change. There are some things I miss about Vegas, but DaVinci Resolve is the future thanks to its new vocal separator which can remove background noise from a speaker in a matter of seconds. As with After Effects, the motion tracking and green screen are Hollywood-level in DaVinci Resolve. With more projects under my belt, it might be even better. Workflows for editing, color, audio, motion effects, and rendering are just a few taps away with Vegas. Too much time adjusting the window layout in Vegas, but you can save and create your window layout in Vegas but not as efficiently as in DaVinci Resolve tap system.
Honestly I will rather spend a couple of days learning DaVinci Resolve than spend any more of my time editing in that completely bullshit laggy vegas, I have been using vegas for over 8 years, there wasnt a day where I wouldnt have problems, crashes, lagging, something not working, mov files randomly turning black + I could never watch the preview smoothly even if I switched it to Draft(quarter), it would always be laggy no mather what, I have got a pretty good pc (gtx1060, i7, 16gb ram) but still the vegas acted like I got some shitty laptop. I love the interface and the features, but they just cant make it work properly with any version, idk why. I had enough, definitely switching, I would rather edit my videos with scissors like old films than to use vegas one more second.
Thanks for this when vegas becomes non stop crashes I normally switch to the latest version... But it happened at a bad time this time so I looked up Vegas alternatives and here I am... And man is Davinci so much smoother and faster even with the odd ui!
I love the vegas interface and the amount of control it gives you over audio but the instability and crashes are just too much... I'm giving it one more chance (version) then I'll jump to premiere or davinci 😢
Oh man, my Vegas doesn’t crash but I have a Mac and pc, learning da Vinci because it’s on both. Im finding da Vinci makes the simplest things like splitting video or speeding up video so hard. Even slow zoom in is so hard ☹️. I keep finding myself using Vegas on my pc more. Anyone know any editing program like Sony Vegas for mac? Maybe Filmora? Anyone try that yet
Just wondering why do you think its complicated Press control + B or Control + / to split (Command + B if mac) To speedup Right click the video Click on change video speed And then change it
Yep. Same boat. Just tired of the instability of Vegas. Vegas constantly wants you to pay to upgrade but the issues and problems never go away. Bye bye Vegas. 😢
I've had many Vegas Pros and had many issues. Vegas 17-18 worked then started to give me issues crashing. Updated to 19 and all issues gone. I also got a gaming i7 PC with a 3070 card, and it's been wonderful. Sorry it didn't work for you, but I completely understand your frustration. I lost countless hours as well.
Thanks, great video. I was using Movie Studio Platinum 12. It is very easy to use, and never crashed, but is old, slow, and had other issues. I was reluctant to upgrade to Vegas 17-18, hearing about the crashing issues. I finally bit the bullet and am using the free DaVinci 18. I had to add a GPU to my i5 CPU to get DaVinci to work. I agree the DaVinci trimmer is harder to use compared to Movie Studio, but you get used to it. Not using advanced features yet, but after making ~11 hours of home videos and one UA-cam in the past month, so far so good.
How do you display the timeline as “frames” also in Vegas you can set the duration of a clip in frames. In the clip edit window - it’s the only reason I won’t touch resolve
Nice to hear you have switched over to resolve😎. Could you me maybe send me a small Sony Vegas editing project that consistently crashes while editing? Just out of curiosity I would like to see if I can reproduce the crashes? Does it crashes randomly? Or when using a specific plugin? Or when ripple editing with the mouse? Or when using a specific video type? Or when using trimmer?
I really wish DaVinci let you put any clip wherever tf we drag it to! It’s so annoying that you HAVE to disable other tracks just to let it decide to drop it to the last enabled one. Like my mouse is there so obv drop it there omg. Is there a setting for “trust where I want the clip to go”?
Thank you, I think you are the first one who discussed about the playhead! Also as a Vegas keyboard editor, do you have any idea how to make the spacebar work as in Vegas Pro where it goes back to the initial start when you press it twice??? Figuring this out would greatly help my workflow
In settings, in general, there is a option to switch what space bar does. Upon experimenting, I discovered, ENTER KEY = play pause and leave the head in the place of pause, so it can resume from there. SPACE BAR = play stop where the time line head jumps back to where if began from when you stop. I love having the option to instantly choose pause or stop.
I'm the same with an Intel processor and Vegas 20. Constant crashing and lack of interest in the forums to help resolve. How do you feel about Davinci 9 months on? Andy.😀
I really like Davinci, I'm currently using DR 18 pro. Mostly for the voice isolation in the pro version, it's really good. Plus I wanted to play with all the other cool pro features. I purchased the speed editor for the license, but getting good at using the speed editor is going to take some serious practice and commitment, but that's a whole nother topic. I can do basic edits without thinking. If I want to get fancy I can follow some tutorials. I've made a few cheat sheets for some stuff I use like audio ducking. Davinci (all versions) has been fast and stable. I just think about making the video and not if the program is going to crash. I'm still a noob with Davinci but that's because the program is so incredibly powerful, just becoming competent in color grading or fusion can take a very long time. To wrap this up, switching to Davinci was a great decision and I've never looked back. Haven't fired up Vegas even once since I committed to Davinci. I just hope in the future Black Magic doesn't get too arrogant and let their product slip or start a subscription pay model. Thanks.
Magix ruined Sony's software. I was a keen user of the software untily Magix took over and added all the bugs and nagware "upgrade to the new version now". Like yourself, I switched to Davinci Resolve and have never looked back.
Wait, DaVinci Resolve forces you to separate the audio tracks? Seriously? Wow! I use various versions of Vegas since...2005 or so. I always liked it, but it is far from perfect. I used Vegas Pro last year (version 19) and too had lots of crashes when the timelime was busy. BUT to be fair to it, my system is bellow min specs for CPU. I only have a 8 core 16 thread Intel cpu (i7 5960X) which isn't good enough to meet the min requirements for it....the program still run, but I assumed the crashes were because of that. So I stopped paying for the pro version, especially since I can't afford it at all now, and continue using the Movie Studio 17 version. It's not as good as the Pro versions, but it is more stable and I already bought it years ago so it is no extra cost for me. Between you me and the internet, if I had money I would buy two Macs and use FCPX on it. It would take me some time to get used to it again, but it would be worth it IMO. The second Mac I would eat as the second Mac would be a burger and not a computer. Anyway, thanks for the video, I hope you got used to it fully.
ty for posting this. saddly 'inshot' on a 5year old mid-tier android phone is more stable and faster than vegas pro on current intel/nvidia hardware... ive had so many problems on vegas that my edits got shorter and shorter until i was only risking a minute at a time and after 3 years i stopped editing video, not that i stopped using the program, i broke down and stopped working in the field. the amount of work and time lost is heartbreaking. there is no explanation that could be forgivable, the software/process is too old and too buggy to be used on modern video files. such a shame for everyone involved, vegas work flow is very intuitive(imo the way it should be done) and it works great until it doesnt work at all. inshot has become my scrappy portable goto editor, i should try resolve but for now openshot is something im learning for use on pc because its free and i prefer to support open source where people can actually have an effect on the way a program runs. a couple things you said kinda sold me tho, its good to hear theres no more crashing and panic saving every 30 secs, ill give resolve a shot... nice clips btw, i got a dr-z400e that deserves to see more dirt
ctrl s should be a habit. Vegas crashes the most but it's by far the most responsive and quickest. Davinci runs so slow and honestly, davinci crashes too
I have no idea why Vegas was crashing, if I did I would probably still be using Vegas. The video files were mostly iPhone and files from a Sony X3000 action cam. But I did try transcoding the files using HandBrake but it didn't see to help and never found what was causing the crashing.
@@lowlypawn I work with GoPro files 4k50fps (x265) I have Veg 18, Win 8.1. There is no way I would have any even normal playback in Vegas with these x265 file. So, I convert them to either Lagarith or ProRes 422HQ. Lgarith in avi container plays in my Vegas without any delays at all, and the same ProRes, that gives me smaller files but with limited colors. Lagarith gives me full range (0-255). When all is done I render the files to x264 in avi cont. with x264vfw with crf 12 (4k50fps) - around 250-300 mbps. Yes, somethimes the pc crashes during rendering, but if I want to render the same video in Resolve to h264, it just stucks and nothing happens at all. The only good codec I can render with Resolve is mpeg (mpeg4). I have gtx970. My Vegas never crashes during edting. Only during rendering, even with x264vfw. But this is due to windows more than Vegas, as I get reboots sometimes even with VirtualDub2, which I use for converting my files for Vegas.
I really love vegas pro.. but I cant never edit in 4K and i have a 3K dollars cumputer and vegas pro 20 subscription.. idk.. Im thing on going to daVinci, but its very scary I been using this program for almost 12 years…
Soon as I began adding 4k video to my editing game, vegas 16 crashed nearly every time. Upgraded to vegas 20. Still crashed identical. Then upgraded my AMD GPU drivers, and crashes stopped. 1080 editing never crashed with old gpu drivers, but 4k sure as hell did.
@@JusstSolo It was not the computer I upgraded. It was just the drivers for my GPU card. I kept the same GPU card, but got newer drivers. Cost nothing.
Never had much crash on vegas. But placing precisely an image on top of a video is a nightmare on Vegas. I fucking HATE the "event panoramic". Why would you edit the container instead of the content ?? WTF VEGAS ?
When Vegas was a Sony product it was very stable. Even the first year that Magix had the software it was still stable. Magix has broken the code and I am not sure they can fix it. It's a shame because Vegas is and awesome editor.
Vegas 13 currently and its never crashed, its faster at exporting on my 10+ year old pc than my friends m1 macbook pro running final cut. Seriously. But yes I use and love Vegas, but it keeps jumping companies and i feel many people had your issue, I swear everything after ver 13 was useless and would crash all the time. I demoed 18 and it crashed all the time, went back to 13 and it never crashed! So frustrating. Cool video man I'm likely going to jump soon also but not looking foward to the learning curve. Vegas 13: Stable Vegas 14 - 19: Unstable Vegas 20: ? Not sure to go Davinci or risk 20, I want to stay Vegas, don't want to have to learn a new editor as Vegas looks loads easier to use, like loads easier and as I say its what I know, but not many pros use Vegas 20 right now so I'm not sure which is going to be best, I just want a editor that won't crash really and I want to demo 20 first, if that crashes I'm going for Davinchi like yourself. How much does it suck that we love Vegas and the main reason for switching is cos it crashes. Well at least Davinci gives us more options anyway.
bro idk what all these people do, maybe there are some issues with codecs from gopros or something, but my Vegas pro 17 crashed like 4 times this year. Pros don't use Vegas for sure, but for hobbyist users it's by far the best option. Davinci was designed by a schizo, it has amazing functionality, but it has the worst interface of any piece of software I have ever come across.
@@Jimmy_The_Goat well theres people out there that say only pros use macs in the music industry and most the top music was made on a laptop with fl studio etc, i did try vegas 20 on my current laptop (demo), and it seemed stable. it wasnt any differnt to ver 13, some new transitions added and some nicer options in fx, nothing crazy though... so i stuck with 13! 13's fine for now, Davinci just pissed me off as its too complex and i still dont have a new pc so it was laggy, this vegas thing is just floggin' a dead horse, its like 20 years old software (sonic foundry days), and they do very, very minor changes to make it look new, it makes me laugh. but its workflow is fantastic - it could be so much more but wont ever be. still prefer it to anything else tho!
I'm learning Davinci Resolve now and I got the Studio version, I think Sony Vegas is much better as you can really go fast with making videos, where Davinci Resolve seems like a half assed video editor, better than Premiere Pro but still really overcomplicating stuff... I'm sure that I would have done the video what I'm working now in about 1h and would be exporting it while I'm learning since 2h how to restore the audio from a clip because when you overlap audio with another audio lets say song then the overlapped audio is being deleted and you need to do this dumb fucking shit here ua-cam.com/users/shorts3V4HFUybzWk It's so fucking stupid actually
i use a pirated version of 16. it's stable to the point where it doesn't crash ever. I purchased vegas pro 18 but even though i went through all the settings changes to get it stable, it crashes too much for no reason...so I'm stuck using vegas pro 16 TRried using Davinci and it's unintuitive and alien...now I'm here watching this....yeah, I'll just stick with Vegas 16 forever I guess...simple functions like fading in and out of clips are made way more complex in Davinci. zooming in and out of the timeline in vegas is easy, just use the scroll wheel...no idea if you can even do that in davinci... Thanks for the video. This just confirmed I'll have to stick with my pirated copy ofvegas pro 16, lol maybe one day Magix will figure out how to make a program that doesn't crash
It was rough getting over the initial hurdle of learning the basics in DaVinci. But now that I've been using DaVinci for a year I'm so glad I bit the bullet and switched. In fact I just purchased a Speed Editor to try out, but mostly for the Studio license. Fading in, transitions, zooming the timeline, all super easy for me now. I plan to do a follow up video on DaVinci because I am loving the program at this point. Everything is coming together and starting to make sense. Vegas will always have a place in my heart but it really doesn't hold a candle to DaVinci. If you can battle through the first 4 to 8 hours of learning DaVinci, I guarantee you will be glad you made the switch.
@@lowlypawn do one showing how inserting text works on resolve I'm used to Vegas 13 but the text always looks like crap. I had to import text .PNG from Photoshop to get a clean modern and sharp text but is too slow....
Wow dude, your diligence to track down the problem in vegas, is amazingly thorough. You sound just like me. I'm considering Davinci.
I'm not gonna lie, you've pretty much convinced me to stick with Vegas and not bother with Resolve. I've been using Vegas since Vegas 6 (this was before they had movie studio and pro versions and Vegas was just Vegas) and while it does crash from time to time, I'll take that over completely abandoning my workflow. People rag on Vegas all the time but I have yet to find another video editing software that makes the editing process fast and easy. If Resolve had a profile for Vegas like it foes for premiere & FC I'd have switched easily, but they don't and I know why, because resolve adds 2+ steps to every simple task where as it's usually a click and 1 key press in Vegas.
To 'un-convince' you... I made the switch from Vegas to Resolve at the beginning of the year and IMO the positives out weigh the negatives, so it's well worth it. While I fully agree there are certain tasks that are much smoother in Vegas (I've pointed out several of these on the official Resolve forum), there are plenty of benefits to Resolve so there is a trade off. Some tasks get harder, some tasks get easier and some tasks are now possible that I could never do in Vegas. There is nothing in Vegas that compares to the Fusion page in Resolve and once I wrapped my head around Fusion, I can't believe I ever did without it. I think that with some relatively simple tweaks Resolve could be just as good of an editor as Vegas, but Vegas is light years away from reaching the level of Resolve. I'd love for Black Magic to focus on getting the basics and the Edit page solid before adding any more fancy AI wizzardry. lol
@@Tekkerue My current workflow is to use fusion alone in DV. Grade my footage and render out in MP4 4k for editing in Vegas.
Fusion is the only thing that makes DV any better.
Vegas is miles more intuitive - and once you've got the rendered files out of DV, you don't get any crashing and don't need to add any effects in vegas. done!
@@Tekkerue I'd love for Black Magic to focus on getting the basics and the Edit page solid before adding any more fancy AI wizzardry. lol
Oh, I so agree with that so much.
@@TimesWithJames I am confused how you can add the effects before you edit the video.
@@Trusteft Maybe this person's only effects are color grading the raw footage? I'm a Vegas user noob who has no idea what the Fusion page in Resolve is yet or how I'll feel once I even finish watching this video, let alone try my hand at editing in Davinci Resolve... it seems really hard to switch.
I had the same problems you did. I'm looking at Tutorials now and ran across your video. I'm tired of the saving after every change and the crashing. Two nights ago I stayed up all night trying to edit a video that should have taken 30 minutes (lots of clips and editing). It took me over 3 hours through the night to finish it. Vegas Pro crashed over 10 times. This was a record. Thanks for showing the difference between the interfaces. This is a great video. I Da Vinci downloaded and looking through the interface now.
For video fades just hold shift-ALT while dragging the clip and it works like Vegas.
you got it!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much, I've been through a similar journey, it's mind-boggling how Vegas has gotten worse with progressive releases in terms of stability. You tried everything to make Vegas work, and you've saved other people the trouble of wasting their time jumping through all those hoops. There ought to be a class action suit against Magix for false advertising. They should have to say up front that their application doesn't work!
Actually, guys, what I find out is it runs much better on a MAC Intel and now Mac M1 chip.
I use both programs on my MAC M1 chip.
I gave up on a Windows-based computer 7 to 8 years ago( HP) and switch to Mac and ran it on Bootcamp finishing up 76 episodes for broadcast TV. With minor crashes that I basically created.
What I found out, running Vegas on Windows Centric machine... had too many different programs causing the whole system's problems.
Running Vegas on a MAC, I don't get all those popped-ups.
bruh sony vegas always freeze and crash it is a pain..
hope davinci will be better i start my switch today
Guy, like you I probably the longest Vegas Pro user.
I've used Vegas Pro for years and produced over 71 TV shows for international markets on an iMac with Bootcamp. Since version 3.
In the beginning, it was so stable, but when the Mac created the M1 chip and Parallels software was used, it became very buggy. Bootcamp was discontinued.
Eight months ago, I finally made the switch.
It was the best decision I ever made... previously, I used Vegas and After Effects workflow.
It's now Davinci & Fusion and After Effects until I understand Fusion like I understand After Effects.
On the iMac M1 chip, DaVinci does not crash and render so fast with multiple compositing and color grading.
It's time to say goodbye to those 3 or 4 hour render times.
DaVinci Resolve would edit a full color correction, 3D, and compositing in less than an hour. In addition, it takes less than several minutes to make a change.
There are some things I miss about Vegas, but DaVinci Resolve is the future thanks to its new vocal separator which can remove background noise from a speaker in a matter of seconds.
As with After Effects, the motion tracking and green screen are Hollywood-level in DaVinci Resolve. With more projects under my belt, it might be even better.
Workflows for editing, color, audio, motion effects, and rendering are just a few taps away with Vegas. Too much time adjusting the window layout in Vegas, but you can save and create your window layout in Vegas but not as efficiently as in DaVinci Resolve tap system.
@@UA-camITA
Guy, like you I probably the longest Vegas Pro user.
I've used Vegas Pro for years and produced over 71 TV shows for international markets on an iMac with Bootcamp. Since version 3.
In the beginning, it was so stable, but when the Mac created the M1 chip and Parallels software was used, it became very buggy. Bootcamp was discontinued.
Eight months ago, I finally made the switch.
It was the best decision I ever made... previously, I used Vegas and After Effects workflow.
It's now Davinci & Fusion and After Effects until I understand Fusion like I understand After Effects.
On the iMac M1 chip, DaVinci does not crash and render so fast with multiple compositing and color grading.
It's time to say goodbye to those 3 or 4 hour render times.
DaVinci Resolve would edit a full color correction, 3D, and compositing in less than an hour. In addition, it takes less than several minutes to make a change.
There are some things I miss about Vegas, but DaVinci Resolve is the future thanks to its new vocal separator which can remove background noise from a speaker in a matter of seconds.
As with After Effects, the motion tracking and green screen are Hollywood-level in DaVinci Resolve. With more projects under my belt, it might be even better.
Workflows for editing, color, audio, motion effects, and rendering are just a few taps away with Vegas. Too much time adjusting the window layout in Vegas, but you can save and create your window layout in Vegas but not as efficiently as in DaVinci Resolve tap system.
Thank you, I got a Black Magic camera recently and it came with a DaVinci license. Been using Vegas since 2014, I am trying to get ready to switch, this video is v helpful.
If it helps anyone, I've been using Vegas por over 6 years and what fixed 99% of my crashes was switching from 16Gb Ram to 32Gb. Now it only crashes a few times if I'm making +25min HIGHLY edited videos, for anything below 20min or higher but with long clips it almost never crashes on me anymore. Off course better CPU and GPU also helps a lot for it to feel smooth, but the main reason for crashes are not having enough RAM.
These days with 19 bit color and 4k video you SHOULD have a minimum of 32 GB of RAM.
Interesting!
Is the dirty little secret is that Vegas is unstable? I have expected crashes every three or four moves--for years. The more complex ur timeline the more it crashes so I've created work-around, but the number one reason for changing to a diff NLE (Resolve!) is for the abysmal customer service. It's funny to long for megacorp Sony, but Magixi is nearly indifferent to helping their customers. The one thing I sorely miss in Resolve (and Premier) is that u can't move the corsor unless u go to the top on the timeline, but already its easy to tell how much more robust is than Vegas. The use of nodes is revolutionary and I can't wait to learn how to use them.
I have the same growing pains. I've always used Vegas (I'm still on 12) but I've tried DaVinci because some formats weren't recognized in my old Vegas. Some of the stuff feels so weirdly complicated.... I guess just different but it's rough.
@@bcrox I can't find your comment....
I’m in that boat where Vegas crashes enough over the years going through 3 completely different rigs that I constantly hit Ctrl+S, and I keep hearing about how good Davinci Resolve is so it’s nice to hear input from someone who’s already made the switch.
Vegas 13: Stable
Vegas 14 - 19: Unstable
Vegas 20: ?
Not sure to go Davinci or risk 20
Wanna stay Vegas tbh. Workflows fast. Nothing after 13 is stable honestly I know few people that use it. Willing ti try other things tho haven't given up just yet plus a new pc bulld soon
@@sezjames2472 Vegas 20? Unstable with AMD.
It's really sad because Vegas is by far the easiest to use but it's just unusable due to crashes.
Vegas has always been like this. Bugs and bugs but the workflow on it is soooo good
To fix sony vegas crashes or at least to reduce by 95%, you have to transcode your video from compressed codec like x264 to an intermediate codec like apple pro res 422 BEFORE you start editing. You'll fix a lot of crashes and you'll have zero lag. Codec like x264 are not meant to be the best to editing but just to be smaller in size. On the other side with intermediate codec you'll get MASSIVE file sizes, but a very good edit experience.
I was almost forgetting to say that: for video editing this is like night and day, i can assure you.
On Vegas if you disable resample on all clips, end irrelevant tasks in task manager, import clips instead of dragging and set as high priority the crashes cut down immensely, that said I still want to try Davinci resolved to se what's up?
Fabulous review! I'm coming from sony vegas myself and seeing the way davinci's timeline works just boggles my mind and doesn't make sense at all.
Damn, good to know you were having similar problems with Vegas. I just made a CPU upgrade to fix timeline lag and crashes but absolutely nothing has changed.
Why, do U think, your timeline is lagging? I edit 4k50fps on mine and no lagging on gtx970 and intel 2.3 (4 cores) and 16g ram. R U putting x264/5 files onto your timeline?
@@utube521 How long are your projects with how many edits? Also which version of Vegas do you use? My guess is any number of those types of reasons could be the difference. I know smaller projects I have much less issue with.
Also just reread your comment, I missed you asking about x264. I was in fact using x264 at that time which I realize is bad practice. I’m sure that also contributed a bunch.
@@ChriSaito The length of the timeline doesn't matter. It's all to do with the format of the files on your timeline. I use only Lagarith or Prores. Vegas loves both of them, but I think it loves Lagarith more as the files are in rgb and in full range.
@@utube521 huh, that’s odd because my shorter projects have no issues. I haven’t done any editing in a while but I’ll make sure to use better formats when I next pick it up!
You have to use the RIGHT codec to edit, like apple prores 422, if you have to do simple things you can handle fine with x264, but if you have to REALLY edit with fancy stuff it will be a pain to edit with the wrong codec.
For me, the solution to eliminate almost 100% of Vegas crashes was processing all my video clips through Handbrake h264 BEFORE importing into Vegas. I think it's basically CODEC bug. I just can't edit files direct from my Sony camera, Vegas will crash with a simple Pan/Crop adjustment.
I had the same exact problem. Upgrading my gpu drivers fixed the problem, luckily for me.
I'm sorry, but you can't judge such complex software like DaVinci Resolve after a few days. I also switched over a year ago and haven't regretted it for a day, because there are so many more ways to import clips than in this video been shown, and the many filter options in the Media Pool and the much better clarity in the Color Tab were not discussed at all, and there is a lot more that was not mentioned and that offers clear advantages, I don't never want to switch to another NLE . Fortunately, what was mentioned and what has impressed me again and again from day one is the incredible stability and performance with all effects.I hope you're having a lot of fun with Davinci resolve by now and I apologize for my bad English. Best regards, Karl
Vegas is light years ahead in terms of ease of use. A millions times ahead. Davinci can do more and is more stable. Stability wins because time is short, so I will reluctantly switch soon but I'm giving Vegas 20 a demo first before I give up on it completly. I understand about re encoding the footage I use before putting it in Vegas will try that first
5:43 just select the clip and press F to open the source file on the side view with in and out selected.
8: 35 you can also right click on the split of the two clicks and the add cross dissolve.
11:10 I think for that you just have to press alt + y to select everything past your cursor.
And BTW, you can change almost all the shortcuts of the edit page and the other pages, like I have Q and W set to ripple delete left and right of cursor like premiere which is super fast.
This was really helpful, thank you!
I had been using Vegas since 2017, and it has always crashed no matter what! I have an AMD processor also.
I finally have gotten tired of paying per month to use Vegas, it's not even a cheap price for the service.
I heard DaVinci Resolve 17 was free to use, so I'm going to download it and try it out and save me the hefty fee of paying for Vegas every month.
I have both, original Vegas Pro user. However, once I loaded Vegas to run on a Mac. It ran perfectly using bootcamp and now Mac M1 chip parallel.
I produced 76 episodes on Vegas on my old Mac. But the new M1 Chip was giving me problems so I jump on DaVinci Resolve 18 Studio.
DaVinci Resolve 18 has some of the editing style of Vegas but don't have the transitions, text and the compositing features.
So i go back and forth... but I know Fuse is where you use for 3d compositing.
@@Kemet3.0 I mostly use plugins for transitions and stuff then its better than vegas imo
@@chiranadevsath8315
Yes, I do too... Boris, Mocha and After Effects on the Mac.
Well, I finally got Vegas to run just like the old iMac converting to the new Mac M1 chip.
Of course, it was missing a lot of upgrades that you had to add.
I had a 6-hour render time without any errors.
Not crashing anymore, just hours of editing.
Like you I probably the longest Vegas Pro user.
I've used Vegas Pro for years and produced over 71 TV shows for international markets on an iMac with Bootcamp. Since version 3.
In the beginning, it was so stable, but when the Mac created the M1 chip and Parallels software was used, it became very buggy. Bootcamp was discontinued.
Eight months ago, I finally made the switch.
It was the best decision I ever made... previously, I used Vegas and After Effects workflow.
It's now Davinci & Fusion and After Effects until I understand Fusion like I understand After Effects.
On the iMac M1 chip, DaVinci does not crash and render so fast with multiple compositing and color grading.
It's time to say goodbye to those 3 or 4 hour render times.
DaVinci Resolve would edit a full color correction, 3D, and compositing in less than an hour. In addition, it takes less than several minutes to make a change.
There are some things I miss about Vegas, but DaVinci Resolve is the future thanks to its new vocal separator which can remove background noise from a speaker in a matter of seconds.
As with After Effects, the motion tracking and green screen are Hollywood-level in DaVinci Resolve. With more projects under my belt, it might be even better.
Workflows for editing, color, audio, motion effects, and rendering are just a few taps away with Vegas. Too much time adjusting the window layout in Vegas, but you can save and create your window layout in Vegas but not as efficiently as in DaVinci Resolve tap system.
@@chiranadevsath8315
I probably the longest Vegas Pro user. I made the switch.
I've used Vegas Pro for years and produced over 71 TV shows for international markets on an iMac with Bootcamp. Since version 3.
In the beginning, it was so stable, but when the Mac created the M1 chip and Parallels software was used, it became very buggy. Bootcamp was discontinued.
Eight months ago, I finally made the switch.
It was the best decision I ever made... previously, I used Vegas and After Effects workflow.
It's now Davinci & Fusion and After Effects until I understand Fusion like I understand After Effects.
On the iMac M1 chip, DaVinci does not crash and render so fast with multiple compositing and color grading.
It's time to say goodbye to those 3 or 4 hour render times.
DaVinci Resolve would edit a full color correction, 3D, and compositing in less than an hour. In addition, it takes less than several minutes to make a change.
There are some things I miss about Vegas, but DaVinci Resolve is the future thanks to its new vocal separator which can remove background noise from a speaker in a matter of seconds.
As with After Effects, the motion tracking and green screen are Hollywood-level in DaVinci Resolve. With more projects under my belt, it might be even better.
Workflows for editing, color, audio, motion effects, and rendering are just a few taps away with Vegas. Too much time adjusting the window layout in Vegas, but you can save and create your window layout in Vegas but not as efficiently as in DaVinci Resolve tap system.
Honestly I will rather spend a couple of days learning DaVinci Resolve than spend any more of my time editing in that completely bullshit laggy vegas, I have been using vegas for over 8 years, there wasnt a day where I wouldnt have problems, crashes, lagging, something not working, mov files randomly turning black + I could never watch the preview smoothly even if I switched it to Draft(quarter), it would always be laggy no mather what, I have got a pretty good pc (gtx1060, i7, 16gb ram) but still the vegas acted like I got some shitty laptop. I love the interface and the features, but they just cant make it work properly with any version, idk why. I had enough, definitely switching, I would rather edit my videos with scissors like old films than to use vegas one more second.
Thanks for this when vegas becomes non stop crashes I normally switch to the latest version... But it happened at a bad time this time so I looked up Vegas alternatives and here I am... And man is Davinci so much smoother and faster even with the odd ui!
I love the vegas interface and the amount of control it gives you over audio but the instability and crashes are just too much... I'm giving it one more chance (version) then I'll jump to premiere or davinci 😢
Oh man, my Vegas doesn’t crash but I have a Mac and pc, learning da Vinci because it’s on both. Im finding da Vinci makes the simplest things like splitting video or speeding up video so hard. Even slow zoom in is so hard ☹️. I keep finding myself using Vegas on my pc more. Anyone know any editing program like Sony Vegas for mac? Maybe Filmora? Anyone try that yet
Just wondering why do you think its complicated
Press control + B or Control + / to split
(Command + B if mac)
To speedup
Right click the video
Click on change video speed
And then change it
Yep. Same boat. Just tired of the instability of Vegas. Vegas constantly wants you to pay to upgrade but the issues and problems never go away. Bye bye Vegas. 😢
THANKS. Same. Today I am giving up in Vegas.
I've had many Vegas Pros and had many issues. Vegas 17-18 worked then started to give me issues crashing. Updated to 19 and all issues gone. I also got a gaming i7 PC with a 3070 card, and it's been wonderful. Sorry it didn't work for you, but I completely understand your frustration. I lost countless hours as well.
I have crashes also in Vegas 14 so I switched to DaVinci also.
That's exactly why I'm looking at jumping ship
Thanks, great video.
I was using Movie Studio Platinum 12. It is very easy to use, and never crashed, but is old, slow, and had other issues. I was reluctant to upgrade to Vegas 17-18, hearing about the crashing issues. I finally bit the bullet and am using the free DaVinci 18. I had to add a GPU to my i5 CPU to get DaVinci to work. I agree the DaVinci trimmer is harder to use compared to Movie Studio, but you get used to it. Not using advanced features yet, but after making ~11 hours of home videos and one UA-cam in the past month, so far so good.
How do you display the timeline as “frames” also in Vegas you can set the duration of a clip in frames. In the clip edit window - it’s the only reason I won’t touch resolve
Nice to hear you have switched over to resolve😎. Could you me maybe send me a small Sony Vegas editing project that consistently crashes while editing?
Just out of curiosity I would like to see if I can reproduce the crashes? Does it crashes randomly? Or when using a specific plugin? Or when ripple editing with the mouse? Or when using a specific video type? Or when using trimmer?
Great video! I'm going to go try it now! 🔥
i have been a long time vegas pro user with experience with AE. I am curious how the transition would be like
I really wish DaVinci let you put any clip wherever tf we drag it to! It’s so annoying that you HAVE to disable other tracks just to let it decide to drop it to the last enabled one. Like my mouse is there so obv drop it there omg.
Is there a setting for “trust where I want the clip to go”?
Thank you, I think you are the first one who discussed about the playhead!
Also as a Vegas keyboard editor, do you have any idea how to make the spacebar work as in Vegas Pro where it goes back to the initial start when you press it twice??? Figuring this out would greatly help my workflow
In settings, in general, there is a option to switch what space bar does. Upon experimenting, I discovered, ENTER KEY = play pause and leave the head in the place of pause, so it can resume from there. SPACE BAR = play stop where the time line head jumps back to where if began from when you stop. I love having the option to instantly choose pause or stop.
I been using vegas for years and now im learning how to use Davinci and maan its been a pain in the back lol, i think im gonna stick with vegas 20
I'm the same with an Intel processor and Vegas 20. Constant crashing and lack of interest in the forums to help resolve. How do you feel about Davinci 9 months on? Andy.😀
I really like Davinci, I'm currently using DR 18 pro. Mostly for the voice isolation in the pro version, it's really good. Plus I wanted to play with all the other cool pro features. I purchased the speed editor for the license, but getting good at using the speed editor is going to take some serious practice and commitment, but that's a whole nother topic. I can do basic edits without thinking. If I want to get fancy I can follow some tutorials. I've made a few cheat sheets for some stuff I use like audio ducking. Davinci (all versions) has been fast and stable. I just think about making the video and not if the program is going to crash. I'm still a noob with Davinci but that's because the program is so incredibly powerful, just becoming competent in color grading or fusion can take a very long time. To wrap this up, switching to Davinci was a great decision and I've never looked back. Haven't fired up Vegas even once since I committed to Davinci. I just hope in the future Black Magic doesn't get too arrogant and let their product slip or start a subscription pay model. Thanks.
@@lowlypawn brilliant thanks for the video and also the summary above. I think you’ve convinced me!! 👍😀
Bro I am expriencing all these crashes to I think Im just gonna switch to davinci aswell goodbye vegas
Dude awsome video , you really helped me
11:26 You can go to the cut tab and drop a clip between them in the weird timeline that u said u didnt want to use :D
"i had to save after every change"
Pain. Just complete torment. I'll be downloading Davinci after my Shift at work.
Magix ruined Sony's software. I was a keen user of the software untily Magix took over and added all the bugs and nagware "upgrade to the new version now". Like yourself, I switched to Davinci Resolve and have never looked back.
Wait, DaVinci Resolve forces you to separate the audio tracks? Seriously? Wow!
I use various versions of Vegas since...2005 or so. I always liked it, but it is far from perfect.
I used Vegas Pro last year (version 19) and too had lots of crashes when the timelime was busy. BUT to be fair to it, my system is bellow min specs for CPU. I only have a 8 core 16 thread Intel cpu (i7 5960X) which isn't good enough to meet the min requirements for it....the program still run, but I assumed the crashes were because of that.
So I stopped paying for the pro version, especially since I can't afford it at all now, and continue using the Movie Studio 17 version. It's not as good as the Pro versions, but it is more stable and I already bought it years ago so it is no extra cost for me.
Between you me and the internet, if I had money I would buy two Macs and use FCPX on it. It would take me some time to get used to it again, but it would be worth it IMO. The second Mac I would eat as the second Mac would be a burger and not a computer.
Anyway, thanks for the video, I hope you got used to it fully.
😂
@@JulianFGU Glad you liked my joke. :)
That slight hiss you have on this video, I am going insane trying to get rid of... You know what it is or how to get rid of?
ty for posting this. saddly 'inshot' on a 5year old mid-tier android phone is more stable and faster than vegas pro on current intel/nvidia hardware... ive had so many problems on vegas that my edits got shorter and shorter until i was only risking a minute at a time and after 3 years i stopped editing video, not that i stopped using the program, i broke down and stopped working in the field. the amount of work and time lost is heartbreaking. there is no explanation that could be forgivable, the software/process is too old and too buggy to be used on modern video files. such a shame for everyone involved, vegas work flow is very intuitive(imo the way it should be done) and it works great until it doesnt work at all. inshot has become my scrappy portable goto editor, i should try resolve but for now openshot is something im learning for use on pc because its free and i prefer to support open source where people can actually have an effect on the way a program runs. a couple things you said kinda sold me tho, its good to hear theres no more crashing and panic saving every 30 secs, ill give resolve a shot... nice clips btw, i got a dr-z400e that deserves to see more dirt
Vegas has live save now, it saves after every action.
Ironically, the live save makes it even more unstable.
Yeah vegas would be great if it didnt crash all the time!
Im using intel processor and nvidida graphic card, amd is not the problem mate.
I have AMD and was wondering if Intel is any better. Thanks.
ctrl s should be a habit. Vegas crashes the most but it's by far the most responsive and quickest. Davinci runs so slow and honestly, davinci crashes too
So. Why was your Vegas crashing? What files did you put onto your timeline?
I have no idea why Vegas was crashing, if I did I would probably still be using Vegas. The video files were mostly iPhone and files from a Sony X3000 action cam. But I did try transcoding the files using HandBrake but it didn't see to help and never found what was causing the crashing.
@@lowlypawn I work with GoPro files 4k50fps (x265) I have Veg 18, Win 8.1. There is no way I would have any even normal playback in Vegas with these x265 file. So, I convert them to either Lagarith or ProRes 422HQ. Lgarith in avi container plays in my Vegas without any delays at all, and the same ProRes, that gives me smaller files but with limited colors. Lagarith gives me full range (0-255). When all is done I render the files to x264 in avi cont. with x264vfw with crf 12 (4k50fps) - around 250-300 mbps. Yes, somethimes the pc crashes during rendering, but if I want to render the same video in Resolve to h264, it just stucks and nothing happens at all. The only good codec I can render with Resolve is mpeg (mpeg4). I have gtx970. My Vegas never crashes during edting. Only during rendering, even with x264vfw. But this is due to windows more than Vegas, as I get reboots sometimes even with VirtualDub2, which I use for converting my files for Vegas.
I really love vegas pro.. but I cant never edit in 4K and i have a 3K dollars cumputer and vegas pro 20 subscription.. idk.. Im thing on going to daVinci, but its very scary I been using this program for almost 12 years…
Soon as I began adding 4k video to my editing game, vegas 16 crashed nearly every time. Upgraded to vegas 20. Still crashed identical. Then upgraded my AMD GPU drivers, and crashes stopped. 1080 editing never crashed with old gpu drivers, but 4k sure as hell did.
@@weldersandblaster very interesting… thanks, Idk if I should move on or upgrade my cumputer,,, the problem is that its a very powerful cumputer.. idk
@@JusstSolo It was not the computer I upgraded. It was just the drivers for my GPU card. I kept the same GPU card, but got newer drivers. Cost nothing.
Never had much crash on vegas. But placing precisely an image on top of a video is a nightmare on Vegas. I fucking HATE the "event panoramic". Why would you edit the container instead of the content ?? WTF VEGAS ?
Bugged Vegas vs Resolve's awful UX
Nothing about Davinci Resolve makes the slightest sense
When Vegas was a Sony product it was very stable. Even the first year that Magix had the software it was still stable. Magix has broken the code and I am not sure they can fix it. It's a shame because Vegas is and awesome editor.
vegas is laggy as fuck when editing
video vegas give me headaches... I will switch. Luckly I've never payed for that peace of crap.
Vegas 13 currently and its never crashed, its faster at exporting on my 10+ year old pc than my friends m1 macbook pro running final cut. Seriously. But yes I use and love Vegas, but it keeps jumping companies and i feel many people had your issue, I swear everything after ver 13 was useless and would crash all the time. I demoed 18 and it crashed all the time, went back to 13 and it never crashed! So frustrating. Cool video man I'm likely going to jump soon also but not looking foward to the learning curve.
Vegas 13: Stable
Vegas 14 - 19: Unstable
Vegas 20: ?
Not sure to go Davinci or risk 20, I want to stay Vegas, don't want to have to learn a new editor as Vegas looks loads easier to use, like loads easier and as I say its what I know, but not many pros use Vegas 20 right now so I'm not sure which is going to be best, I just want a editor that won't crash really and I want to demo 20 first, if that crashes I'm going for Davinchi like yourself. How much does it suck that we love Vegas and the main reason for switching is cos it crashes. Well at least Davinci gives us more options anyway.
bro idk what all these people do, maybe there are some issues with codecs from gopros or something, but my Vegas pro 17 crashed like 4 times this year. Pros don't use Vegas for sure, but for hobbyist users it's by far the best option. Davinci was designed by a schizo, it has amazing functionality, but it has the worst interface of any piece of software I have ever come across.
@@Jimmy_The_Goat well theres people out there that say only pros use macs in the music industry and most the top music was made on a laptop with fl studio etc, i did try vegas 20 on my current laptop (demo), and it seemed stable. it wasnt any differnt to ver 13, some new transitions added and some nicer options in fx, nothing crazy though... so i stuck with 13! 13's fine for now, Davinci just pissed me off as its too complex and i still dont have a new pc so it was laggy, this vegas thing is just floggin' a dead horse, its like 20 years old software (sonic foundry days), and they do very, very minor changes to make it look new, it makes me laugh. but its workflow is fantastic - it could be so much more but wont ever be. still prefer it to anything else tho!
I've been using Vegas versions for years... So far Vegas 20 has been the most stable for me.
I'm learning Davinci Resolve now and I got the Studio version, I think Sony Vegas is much better as you can really go fast with making videos, where Davinci Resolve seems like a half assed video editor, better than Premiere Pro but still really overcomplicating stuff...
I'm sure that I would have done the video what I'm working now in about 1h and would be exporting it while I'm learning since 2h how to restore the audio from a clip because when you overlap audio with another audio lets say song then the overlapped audio is being deleted and you need to do this dumb fucking shit here
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It's so fucking stupid actually
i use a pirated version of 16. it's stable to the point where it doesn't crash ever.
I purchased vegas pro 18 but even though i went through all the settings changes to get it stable, it crashes too much for no reason...so I'm stuck using vegas pro 16
TRried using Davinci and it's unintuitive and alien...now I'm here watching this....yeah, I'll just stick with Vegas 16 forever I guess...simple functions like fading in and out of clips are made way more complex in Davinci. zooming in and out of the timeline in vegas is easy, just use the scroll wheel...no idea if you can even do that in davinci...
Thanks for the video. This just confirmed I'll have to stick with my pirated copy ofvegas pro 16, lol
maybe one day Magix will figure out how to make a program that doesn't crash
It was rough getting over the initial hurdle of learning the basics in DaVinci. But now that I've been using DaVinci for a year I'm so glad I bit the bullet and switched. In fact I just purchased a Speed Editor to try out, but mostly for the Studio license. Fading in, transitions, zooming the timeline, all super easy for me now. I plan to do a follow up video on DaVinci because I am loving the program at this point. Everything is coming together and starting to make sense. Vegas will always have a place in my heart but it really doesn't hold a candle to DaVinci. If you can battle through the first 4 to 8 hours of learning DaVinci, I guarantee you will be glad you made the switch.
@@lowlypawn do one showing how inserting text works on resolve
I'm used to Vegas 13 but the text always looks like crap. I had to import text .PNG from Photoshop to get a clean modern and sharp text but is too slow....
Part of todays culture I guess. Being a thief is funny. If you use it, BUY IT!