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(Disclaimer: Not hating, just observing) My favorite thing in these NLE videos is seeing how many people just keep queuing up the same render to crash at the same spot over and over instead of going into that point in the project and addressing whatever is causing the crash (by fixing/replacing an effect, generating optimized media for the source file, render-in-place for the clip/scene). Whether it's Premiere or Resolve, cracks me up every time.
haha I thought the exact same thing. :D Just "render in place" this clip before export and you are fine. Apart from that Resolve is full of nugget details you will discover over the time. 🙂 But I really loved to watch the video, well done guys!
I think all the crashing was there to create suspense in the video. I moved from Premiere, talking about crashing, my god, that was bad. I had crashes even today with DaVinci. All it takes is a restart, and you're back exactly where you were. DaVinci is not perfect, but it is solid. Also, I think the stabilizer is better and faster than the Warp Stabilizer, but that's just me.
At 79, I’m not a newbie at most things, except editing. But, I bought the full version with the Speed Editor and love it. I thought your video was done excellently. Thank you, and I wish you well. Should you ever decide to make some “how to” videos for DaVinci, I will watch them. Subscribed and will check what videos you have.
If you have problems with your system crashing one easy way to fix this is to edit in a 1080 timeline. Once you finish your edit change your timeline to whatever you want it to be and then export. My computer is very ordinary, spec wise, but it never, ever crashes. I was amazed with the problems they were having here because it doesn’t happen for me.
Haven't looked back since 2007 - Resolve is here to stay :) Love the documentary. Excellent idea :D The crashing sounds like a hardware thing, and I'm glad you recognized that in the video. The poor performance is complex, but could boil down to a few key things to check out: - CPU/GPU use. Monitor how much is utilized on the PC. Are they really struggling, or are they barely working? - Since you're working from a network storage, is the network fast enough to cope with the data transfers to each PC? - Does the the network storage read files fast enough? SSD/HDD? Big array of drives? - What's the codecs used ? Some require more CPU power to decompress than others. The delivery page and you not being able to continue editing: you should be able to set up a separate PC using that extra key you got with the control panel, and use that PC as a render only kind of thing. That'd free up your computer to continue your work while the timeline will be exported! :) If I recall correct, the render job can be issued from your editing PC, and the render PC will pick this up. No need to go open the project manually on the other PC.
Fusion is way more powerful than most people realize. When you really dive in you see how deep it goes. When I first discovered expressions I nearly fell out of my chair.. I don't use AE anymore but I understand why people do. AE is cool.
People are sleeping on Fusion. Let them find out many of compositing and motion graphics like huds and UI for Avatar 1 was done in Fusion including 1000s of other movies.
A week ago i tried learning AE but when ever i learn something i figure out, that's easier in Fusion. Tried to switch to AE 2 times but Davinci works better for me. Fusion really is very deep
I have to say, what a fun mini doc about this journey you had! And also thank you SO MUCH for actually making a balanced argument between Davinci and Premiere as most people treat it like Apple and Android and just hate the other because they want to 😂 I am literally one of the few people who have had almost no issues with Premiere, but EVERY TIME I try switching to Davinci, it crashed as many times as it did for you, but for me, it never got better. I can't even playback phone footage in DaVinci even with proxies and my computer is pretty powerful.. Basically I CANNOT switch to DaVinci no matter how much I want to because on my computer it's actually UNUSABLE. However even when saying this, I know that both tools are amazing and everyone should just use what works for them, it all makes the same result in the end for the most part! Awesome video guys I loved it! 💙
Same. Davinci Studio version crashes a lot on me and struggles more than PP although specs wise it should run perfectly fine. Need to go proxy whereas with PP I can run it full res 4k no problems. DR is a great program though.
When I started my new job last summer, the first thing I did was suggest we move from Premiere/AE to Davinci. They were already coloring in Davinci, so there was no real reason why we couldn't switch completely for the types of edits we do. We were able to transfer any motion graphic needs over to Fusion with a little work, but now we don't look back. And since the introduction of the BM Cloud, we've been using collaborative projects ever since. Game changer! We also just outsourced our first remote editor and the proxy workflow, once you figure it out, is pretty seamless!
We've been using collaborative projects for a few years now too. It's duper easy to just spin up a project server locally and connect to it. With a VPN you don't even need the BMD Cloud and can still edit globally.
the sounds on this is soooo goood. with all the effects and music... chefs kiss. everything in this was engaging. i mean you all made a compelling story about video editing. So good!
Glad you guys are enjoying it! I made the switch a year ago cause I got tired of constantly transferring edit files from premiere to davinci for the colouring. Haven't looked back. It's also more affordable.
I was a beta site for Adobe - and when they roled out the subscriptions, everyone was a beta site. You haven't lived until 400 edits disappear in Lightroom and a non-english speaking "customer service" gaslights you. Resolve users are more helpful, same with Capture One.
This was amazing, I loved it, it was so exciting and fun to watch. With version 18.5 and 18.6 it's a greater leap in features from 18, today you guys have really gotten the understanding that it was the right choice.
The hardware used with Davinci is very important. Davinci LIKES a very fast GPU with a lot of VRAM. For example a HD project needs 8 GB VRAM and 4K needs 16 GB VRAM (but 24 GB is better). Davinci is cheap to buy (free with some BM hardware) but you really need an expensive video card. I think Davinci rocks. Every month BM adds a lot of new features which is very nice. But I think they should also concentrate more on the stability of DR. I wish there was a stable production version (that gets it's own bug fixes) and an experimental version with the latest new features.
I'm so happy I've been working with DaVinci Resolve for 5 years now. This will be the new industry-standard and I'm finally happy everybody woke up cheers to you
I love the way you tell your story. Been following it on/off since you started. Nice seeing a success story that is not afraid to talk about its blemishes.
You guys, you guys are really talented. I couldn't stop laughing. This was put together so well. You basically made something as trivial as switching from one software to the other into a Netflix-style doco. Amazing!
This was soooo good! lol Good Job Guys and I loved the Honesty. I am a huge Davinci Resolve Supporter and i share some of your Sentiments. The primary Rule of Davinci resolve usage is Driver Updates... and making sure to clear the cache.
It runs rock solid for me on a Mac mini and a MacBook Pro m1. My windows computer has occasional GPU memory issues as it only has 4 gigs but other than that, it runs great.
I'm surprised with the amount of crashes you had! My experience with resolve has been that sometimes it runs into issues and needs to be restarted if it runs out of VRAM, but it practically never crashes.
VRAM issue can be solved by upgrading your ram. Or you could even have proxies, render cache and such go to your HD instead like I do. I have a SD 2 terabyte that I use for all cacheing, not my ram. Never gets used up. Plenty fast enough as well.
I’ve been with Resolve for years now. I love it. It’s been very stable for me. Before that I used Premiere and I hated it. A big thing that they didn’t mention is that Resolve has live save where the file is always saving. You have to be extra careful with Premiere.
Such an awesome video! Love the extremely high quality video’s you produce for us! I am currently in the process of changing, so i can relate to some of the struggles!
Ah, lucky you. Sometimes we were 4-5 people editing at the same time, with deliveries for clients. And when so to say all of us had crashes it made us quite stressed out, especially just before deadline. As Morten said it doesn't crash as often anymore, luckily.
@@Andyax was this around the actual release of the cloud? I’d heard of some problems when more than 4 people were on a project at a time, while at least one was in Fusion.
@@johnathanbaublitz5857 Hmm, it was probably around the release yes. But we weren't more then max 2-3 people in the same project at the same time, and we didn't use Fusion. When it crashed the most we also tried to be only one person in the project file, but is still kept crashing...
@andyax When Cloud was first released and in Beta it was buggy and internet speed on larger projects (for me) was a reason for slow downs. Especally early on when there servers were only in Ohio... Did you consider just running the postgres database and Davinci Project Server on your local server instead so you had faster latency on project collab? Or do you need editors to be able to work remotely too. Cloud didn't really crash for me much, but there were project stability issues when it first launched, especially when it as still in beta.
Firstly. How fun is that video!!! I laughed a lot. Secondly. Finally a smart company making smart decision making this change. It is sooo much faster editing on DaVinci.
A few things. 1. I have a basic model 2017 iMac. Ram is only 8 gigs and Resolve rarely crashes. I can count on one hand how many times DR crashes on me in one year. 2. I agree with what the audio guy said about Fairlight. I hate it. I do all my post production in Nuendo as well. 3. I like the Warb Stabilizer in DR better than Premiere. 4. I do like the user interface better in DR than Premiere Pro. I like how each page is laid out opposed to PP. Color page in DR is the best. 5. On the flip side, I’ve never been a fan of Fusion. 6. I like how PP is integrated with Adobe Cloud and Story Blocks. Final Conclusion. I use both. I would like to see a video of the team doing this same thing with switching to Final Cut Pro X.
Resolve on my Mac M1 Studio Max (32 gpu core) seems to be a nearly perfect match. No more proxies and as much as possible done on (fast) external SSD means very little file copying. Many years since I used Premier. I still like Final Cuts intuitive interface, a bit of that in Resolve would be nice!
This is the exact setup I plan on getting eventually. Its nice to hear positive things about this system from Resolve users, ive only ever tested the mac studio with Final cut but it was a limited experience because I dont know how to use it.
I've been using this setup for about a year and a half and it's been running really flawlessly ever since. I rarely have more than two video tracks and a "grain" track running. Typically with color correction, reframing, a little local color/light adjustment, sometimes with tracking, and maybe speed change. There was one time when the computer slowed down, but it was 9 video tracks for splitscreen at the start of a documentary/presentation about five refugee projects. The editing format is ProRes and now I do almost everything in 4K.
I absolutely love your videos guys!! So well done! I run a small production team and also switched to resolve because of the Cloud, I have an editor in the Philippines and the workflow works well (most of the time) I can relate very much to your experience (at a smaller scale). Keep on pumping these out, they are great!
Interesting that you've only now switched to it because of the cloud. After all, you were able to self-host a project server for years now and get the functionality of BMD Cloud for free (minus whatever your internet costs). I've been doing that for about three and a half years now for my friends and me to edit collaboratively from home.
This is a million views production guys, videos like this are the reason UA-cam is so amazing! Absolutely fantastic idea to create a documentary out of it :D
A few years ago, I switched from Premiere to Davinci, and I love it! It has its flaws, mainly in the audio page, but overall, I like it. Mainly because, when it crashes, you don't lose your progress, unlike Premiere
You don't loose anything after a crash on premier anymore. You can no longer speak for premiere as you don't use it. We should be the one telling you instead😂
@@juancisneros725 Saying one is better than the other is a matter of just preference. There no quality of vid an editor can make that can't be made on either software. In what respect is Resolve better when they're the ones playing catch up. Premiere users who switched and don't know what premiere is currently are the ones comparing resolve to the version of premiere they used. I just demonstrated that now with my first comment. I use resolve and it crashes too. Adobe suite is just better suited for my workflow. Who cares about the editing app. Just skill up and be good at telling stories better. That's what matters. Both software are professional enough.
You guys are brilliant! Oh man I laughed soooo much when in the end KIM said "I am still using Premiere" and he laugh...hilarious. I am also planning to switch from FCPX and in the process of researching what our UA-cam community think about the subject matter and came up your fantastic documentary plus informatry video. Well done!!!
As an ULTRA HOBBY AMATEUR... this is awesome and really informative! It's true.. the UA-camr hype had me asing WT WHY!? This video gives some really solid answers. Thank you for this!
Consistent crashing at a particular point in the timeline while rendering will often occur repeatedly until you change whatever variable is broken/causing the crash. I've only had that type of persistent crashing happen once thankfully. Obviously you do get random crashes too but I found they're not too often and Resolve is good at saving its progress. This was a cool look at premiere vs resolve that I appreciated thanks.
gotta agree that fusion's performance is abysmal, I don't understand how can a single text title in fusion be so hard to playback/render when I can literally run entire raytraced 3d scenes in unreal engine in real time.
Resolve CLOUD crashes A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT. Black Magic still hasn’t gotten back to me with a legitimate fix. Resolve used natively without the cloud works VERY VERY WELL
I noticed the one clip at 3:50 and noticed it said 17 and thought all of them were the same version, but after a re-watch I noticed v18 and v18.5. I apologize for assuming. Still an amazing video! All of your creativity is awesome! Keep it up.
Wonderful satire! Well thought out down to the smallest details, like using Windows 11, or testing stability for long term with BETA version of Resolve. You really made me smile! Thank you! :)
THIS WAS SO BEAUTIFUL. (The crashes usually comes from heavy editing for awhile an then trying to rendering after your heavy editing. After I heavy edit sometimes, I save and close the project then, restart the computer, then render.)
7 minutes in and loving the video so far! Been trying to switch to DaVinci Resolve from Vegas Pro myself, though it's one hell of a challenge since I've been using Vegas for 10+ years and know it like the back of my hand. When it comes to crashing, if it crashes illogically frequently (like at 7:07 of this video), one of the reasons for it could be a bad graphics driver. I use an AMD GPU and I experienced crashes while just watching the footage without any FX after updating my drivers. To *Resolve* (so proud of myself with this one :)) the crashing, if you're using an AMD GPU, you could try wiping the old drivers using DDU in safe mode and installing driver versions 23.2.1 or 23.7.2 which I had no problems with so far. If you're using Nvidia, just search for versions that are known to be stable in DaVinci and try those instead after wiping the old driver. Just let me know if you need any help with installing drivers!
Isn't Vegas Pro the really old version now? After all, the program was sold to Magix years ago and integrated into their suite of editing programs as Magix Vegas Pro, if I remember correctly. Can't really remember as right around that time I switched to Resolve.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I've used Resolve for the past 4 years and last crash I've had was more than a year ago. I work with 4K, 10bit/h.265. Mainly Fujifilm, Canon and GoPro footage and really love it
A big thing that stopped Resolve crashes for me was changing (and lowering) Key Frames and Render Speed in the delivery page. Literally stopped crashing and giving weird artifacts in exports. The only time I have issues now is when I overload in fusion. Now it's great. Completely worth it for the Color page. If I shot content like weekly videos with captions and youtube-style cuts, I'd say Premiere would be the best option. There's more people developing for it, tons of presets are built for it that help streamline the processes, and it's so easy to add captions and animations. Especially when you're just adding a LUT and making it consistent across the timeline. But for long-form, 1 of 1 projects like music videos and fashion videos where color is SO important and you're not using the same effects and transitions every day, Resolve is absolutely the way to go.
Only a light user, but having used Premiere since 2000-isj, and then premiere pro, unlearning Premiere and learning the intended flow of DaVinci was yhe biggest hurdle - using the cut page to cut away the fat in my footage quickly, and then using the edit page to assemble the edit in the next step was my biggest «ahaaaaaaaa»-moment since I’ve always done that as «one operation» on the timeline in Premiere - but it is dependent on what type of project I do, getting a feel for when the cut page is a timesaver and when it’s not took some time but once I got an understanding for that things went much smoother :) Great video, and well worth the wait :)
The intro looked like you went from Davinci to premiere pro. All the frustration. If you have based your change based on the big channels on UA-cam that they change blah, blah. They only make those videos for views. They switch back and forth based on what's in at the time. Don't trust them one bit. First, Davinci is 100 times better than premiere pro. There is no doubt, I have used premiere occasionally just to test. Ridiculously bad and unstable. Davinci is the new king, there is no doubt. Good luck.
I have a gtx 1660 and davinci crashed maybe 2 times in 3 years I dunno what u guys are doing lol. i am editing 6k raw 50fps without proxies without any lags, u have to use an ssd for big files, regardless of software. I switched from premiere because so many things were just annoying to work with and the performance was always shit. Enjoy Davinci! It definitely has some problems when it comes to simple features sometimes, but the amazing performance and smooth workflow make up for it 100%. Agreed the stabilizer is actually worse than Premiere. Tip: If you can, use camera gyro, its way better and can be used in multiple editing software or u can combine camera gyro with warp stabilizer for even better results.
this video was awesome haha i joined the revolution this year. if i can wrap my head around Fusion i can leave after effects behind...it's the only part that i am having a hard time transitioning to. premiere to resolve was pretty easy.
Dag Gum! Glad y'all made it and crossed over into "The Dark Side"! I was surprised at the comment comparing Fusion to Nuke. Both are awesome and they are also different from one another; however, when ya spend the time learnin' (I know. Schoolin' sux) Fusion - ya can get some pretty nifty things accomplished!
If you used Resolve for 10 or 20 years and switched to Adobe - The same problems would inevitably happen. Familiarity breeds speed and confidence. But Resolve for color is in a league of it's own. For years studios with Adobe suites, still went through the hassle of roundtripping to Resolve for color grading. And for good reason. The tools for grading and matching shots, are almost endless. If anyone who does color thinks they can fully do everything in Resolve in a quick succession, they are people to keep. Because some of us have been using it for over a decade and still learn and find new ways to do things in Resolve almost weekly.
Resonate with your journey. I will say I've had moments where I couldn't understand why something was going wrong in resolve only to find weeks months and now year or two later that I was doing something wrong this whole time. That discoverability or lack of of it is actually th biggest issue but once you know you know.
Ok guys... I think, that because some machines where more prone to crashing, this could be a bigger issue of BIOS updates, system settings (GPU settings like GPU resizeable BAR, direct Memory) and disabled iGPUs on the machines. in order to have H265 10 Bit decoding, you need a newer CPU from Intel, that is NOT disabled in the BIOS. This way, Davinci uses the iGPU to decode the H265 10 Bit files (NVIDIA GPUs don't support it!) and the dedicated GPU is used for effects and encoding. Also when exporting, use the iGPU hardware acceleration (Quick Sync) or use software encoding. this has a slight quality improvement in comparison to NVIDIA NVENC. Best is, disable resizable BAR in Windows, enable iGPU in BIOS and keep the BIOS up to date and chose NVIDIA Studio drivers.
Great vid guys. But I'm super surprised to see resolve crash so many times. I work on client videos on my mind range PC and it has only crashed on me less than 5 times in 3 years so this could be either because of using a beta version is using slow storage. This has to be due to user error or just maybe using the BM cloud.
That was fun. I switched during 2020 lockdown after many crashes over 20 years of Premiere. Adobe is doing a lot of cool things, why not jump back and forth as needed for the best features.
Actually, when I switched to Resolve 5 years ago, one of the reason was stabilization. I found it better on Resolve and incomparable faster than in Premiere.
What a great video! As I’m learning and pending between adobe and resolve - it’s more and more resolve for me. When I learned something in premiere - I suddenly learned it for resolve too. For me as a non-hardcore user for now resolve will do it for me and I‘ll just have to pay 6 more months of adobe then I’ll switch to photo-subscription again. R.I.A shirt is mine now. Great work guys! Appreciate your whole video ❤️🍀
I always wanted to know the views of professional team, who actually work on real projects, on Davinci and not just the views of individuals on UA-cam. This really made me feel good that I started with Davinci. I stated with iMovie then discovered this in the process of looking for an upgrade. Didn't want to get into the Adobe system, I don't even use crack version of Photoshop and Illustrator. I use Affinity.
Great video. Have been using DR for a few years having also used Avid and Adobe in the past. Recommend you guys start using the Remote Render function if you want to keep editing while still exporting. Very simple to set up and an essential workflow if you have a team of editors.
You don't need plugins or scripts to use Fusion to use it out of the box. You only might need it if you are doing advanced VFX compositing like doing multilayer EXR comp work etc, otherwise pretty much everything can be done with the vanilla version of Fusion. The scripts and plugins in Fusion makes it easier and faster to use while adding more features. Also it's actually GPU accelerated unlike AE or Nuke. The playback speed in Fusion only suffers if you have less than 32GB RAM but for the standalone of Fusion studio version 16GB is enough which also runs significantly better than the one inside Resolve. All the paid motion graphics plugins/templates for Resolve from companies like Motion VFX, Motion array etc are all made inside of Fusion as well.
haha, laughed so much in the first part. from the bread blackmailing to the export graveyard ^^ extremely well done! great mix of entertaining first and education next! loved it! 🔥😘
Amazing video & storytelling like always. Being there a couple of months ago for the workshop and seeing the whiteboard with the amounts of crashes really surprised me. I am extremely good at crashing software, but for some reason, Resolve was a lot better compared to Premiere Pro for me in terms of stability. I'm happy you guys were able to survive the switch. 😅❤
You guys are so Great, I Really like that you doesn't harm any one specially the guy who doesn't have one teeth and I miss that scars too. Btw the traitor was right black magic have to provide that feature cuz every buddy tired of it And it doesn't have caps feature too. If you guys can do something about it please do this.
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Well I am just loving VEGAS Pro 21 - rock solid and works the way I do - try that next time you may be surprised.
(Disclaimer: Not hating, just observing) My favorite thing in these NLE videos is seeing how many people just keep queuing up the same render to crash at the same spot over and over instead of going into that point in the project and addressing whatever is causing the crash (by fixing/replacing an effect, generating optimized media for the source file, render-in-place for the clip/scene). Whether it's Premiere or Resolve, cracks me up every time.
haha I thought the exact same thing. :D
Just "render in place" this clip before export and you are fine.
Apart from that Resolve is full of nugget details you will discover over the time. 🙂
But I really loved to watch the video, well done guys!
I think all the crashing was there to create suspense in the video. I moved from Premiere, talking about crashing, my god, that was bad. I had crashes even today with DaVinci. All it takes is a restart, and you're back exactly where you were. DaVinci is not perfect, but it is solid. Also, I think the stabilizer is better and faster than the Warp Stabilizer, but that's just me.
Well many times you just try it again and it works totally fine lol
@@LimaVideoProductionsI agree with you the stabilizer in DaVinci is much faster.
“I wanna f**king zoom in the cut page” 🤣 absolutely, I skip the cut page entirely now lol
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 I spit the food out of my mouth when he said that
There's a cut page? 😅
It’s for doing “assembly edits”. If you’re trying to use it for the fine edit, well, 😅
So no one in this chat every learned how to used Cut page 😅😂😂😂😂😂😂
I use premiere so i’m confused what he means. Does he mean zoom in on the timeline or in the source monitor?
At 79, I’m not a newbie at most things, except editing. But, I bought the full version with the Speed Editor and love it. I thought your video was done excellently. Thank you, and I wish you well. Should you ever decide to make some “how to” videos for DaVinci, I will watch them. Subscribed and will check what videos you have.
If you have problems with your system crashing one easy way to fix this is to edit in a 1080 timeline. Once you finish your edit change your timeline to whatever you want it to be and then export. My computer is very ordinary, spec wise, but it never, ever crashes. I was amazed with the problems they were having here because it doesn’t happen for me.
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i also noticed they were using Davinci 17, I think most problems were fixed on 18.5
This can give you problems with masks especially the magic masks, so be careful und check your renders if you do it this way
I can't believe you took this switch project as far as producing a proper documentary and launching merchandise xD
Haven't looked back since 2007 - Resolve is here to stay :)
Love the documentary. Excellent idea :D
The crashing sounds like a hardware thing, and I'm glad you recognized that in the video.
The poor performance is complex, but could boil down to a few key things to check out:
- CPU/GPU use. Monitor how much is utilized on the PC. Are they really struggling, or are they barely working?
- Since you're working from a network storage, is the network fast enough to cope with the data transfers to each PC?
- Does the the network storage read files fast enough? SSD/HDD? Big array of drives?
- What's the codecs used ? Some require more CPU power to decompress than others.
The delivery page and you not being able to continue editing: you should be able to set up a separate PC using that extra key you got with the control panel, and use that PC as a render only kind of thing. That'd free up your computer to continue your work while the timeline will be exported! :) If I recall correct, the render job can be issued from your editing PC, and the render PC will pick this up. No need to go open the project manually on the other PC.
Fusion is way more powerful than most people realize. When you really dive in you see how deep it goes. When I first discovered expressions I nearly fell out of my chair.. I don't use AE anymore but I understand why people do. AE is cool.
People are sleeping on Fusion. Let them find out many of compositing and motion graphics like huds and UI for Avatar 1 was done in Fusion including 1000s of other movies.
FACTS, I am working in VFX studio where they use fusion and its damn powerful as hell !!!@@rano12321
A week ago i tried learning AE but when ever i learn something i figure out, that's easier in Fusion.
Tried to switch to AE 2 times but Davinci works better for me.
Fusion really is very deep
I have to say, what a fun mini doc about this journey you had! And also thank you SO MUCH for actually making a balanced argument between Davinci and Premiere as most people treat it like Apple and Android and just hate the other because they want to 😂 I am literally one of the few people who have had almost no issues with Premiere, but EVERY TIME I try switching to Davinci, it crashed as many times as it did for you, but for me, it never got better. I can't even playback phone footage in DaVinci even with proxies and my computer is pretty powerful.. Basically I CANNOT switch to DaVinci no matter how much I want to because on my computer it's actually UNUSABLE. However even when saying this, I know that both tools are amazing and everyone should just use what works for them, it all makes the same result in the end for the most part! Awesome video guys I loved it! 💙
What's your computer specs?
Same. Davinci Studio version crashes a lot on me and struggles more than PP although specs wise it should run perfectly fine. Need to go proxy whereas with PP I can run it full res 4k no problems. DR is a great program though.
Have you updated graphics drivers.
Première used to crash on me all the time. Made the switch to resolve years ago and haven't had a problem yet.
@@TheMrlittletooth yes I have my graphics drivers updated consistently as I use my PC for gaming and editing all the time
When I started my new job last summer, the first thing I did was suggest we move from Premiere/AE to Davinci. They were already coloring in Davinci, so there was no real reason why we couldn't switch completely for the types of edits we do. We were able to transfer any motion graphic needs over to Fusion with a little work, but now we don't look back. And since the introduction of the BM Cloud, we've been using collaborative projects ever since. Game changer!
We also just outsourced our first remote editor and the proxy workflow, once you figure it out, is pretty seamless!
We've been using collaborative projects for a few years now too. It's duper easy to just spin up a project server locally and connect to it. With a VPN you don't even need the BMD Cloud and can still edit globally.
the sounds on this is soooo goood. with all the effects and music... chefs kiss. everything in this was engaging. i mean you all made a compelling story about video editing. So good!
Glad you guys are enjoying it!
I made the switch a year ago cause I got tired of constantly transferring edit files from premiere to davinci for the colouring. Haven't looked back. It's also more affordable.
It is MUCH more affordable.
I was a beta site for Adobe - and when they roled out the subscriptions, everyone was a beta site. You haven't lived until 400 edits disappear in Lightroom and a non-english speaking "customer service" gaslights you. Resolve users are more helpful, same with Capture One.
That transition from thumbnail to video was perfect
This was amazing, I loved it, it was so exciting and fun to watch. With version 18.5 and 18.6 it's a greater leap in features from 18, today you guys have really gotten the understanding that it was the right choice.
I can't be believe what you did to the guy at the end using premier still! it's amazing that he stuck his guns after that ordeal
Love this video of course :)
The hardware used with Davinci is very important. Davinci LIKES a very fast GPU with a lot of VRAM. For example a HD project needs 8 GB VRAM and 4K needs 16 GB VRAM (but 24 GB is better). Davinci is cheap to buy (free with some BM hardware) but you really need an expensive video card. I think Davinci rocks. Every month BM adds a lot of new features which is very nice. But I think they should also concentrate more on the stability of DR. I wish there was a stable production version (that gets it's own bug fixes) and an experimental version with the latest new features.
This was a fantastic video, love it! DaVinci Resolve is the way to go! Great to see so many people coming over to the program. 😁👍💯
I'm so happy I've been working with DaVinci Resolve for 5 years now. This will be the new industry-standard and I'm finally happy everybody woke up cheers to you
I love the way you tell your story. Been following it on/off since you started. Nice seeing a success story that is not afraid to talk about its blemishes.
You guys, you guys are really talented. I couldn't stop laughing. This was put together so well. You basically made something as trivial as switching from one software to the other into a Netflix-style doco. Amazing!
This was soooo good! lol Good Job Guys and I loved the Honesty. I am a huge Davinci Resolve Supporter and i share some of your Sentiments. The primary Rule of Davinci resolve usage is Driver Updates... and making sure to clear the cache.
It runs rock solid for me on a Mac mini and a MacBook Pro m1. My windows computer has occasional GPU memory issues as it only has 4 gigs but other than that, it runs great.
The GPU memory issues on Windows made me switch to Linux on the same machine and getting a Macbook M1 Max as well. lol
@@DennisSchmitz Resolve runs better on Macos, it was only available for macos for a long time but Fusion runs much better on windows.
I'm surprised with the amount of crashes you had! My experience with resolve has been that sometimes it runs into issues and needs to be restarted if it runs out of VRAM, but it practically never crashes.
Same here. Crashes rarely
They mentioning 8k or 6K projects so it depends on camera and codec used.
VRAM issue can be solved by upgrading your ram. Or you could even have proxies, render cache and such go to your HD instead like I do. I have a SD 2 terabyte that I use for all cacheing, not my ram. Never gets used up. Plenty fast enough as well.
Has crashed like less than 10 times in 3 years lol.
I’ve been with Resolve for years now. I love it. It’s been very stable for me. Before that I used Premiere and I hated it. A big thing that they didn’t mention is that Resolve has live save where the file is always saving. You have to be extra careful with Premiere.
Such an awesome video! Love the extremely high quality video’s you produce for us! I am currently in the process of changing, so i can relate to some of the struggles!
Wild to me how many times it crashed for you. I’ve only had 1 or 2 crashes in over a year of using it
Ah, lucky you. Sometimes we were 4-5 people editing at the same time, with deliveries for clients. And when so to say all of us had crashes it made us quite stressed out, especially just before deadline. As Morten said it doesn't crash as often anymore, luckily.
@@Andyax was this around the actual release of the cloud? I’d heard of some problems when more than 4 people were on a project at a time, while at least one was in Fusion.
@@johnathanbaublitz5857 Hmm, it was probably around the release yes. But we weren't more then max 2-3 people in the same project at the same time, and we didn't use Fusion. When it crashed the most we also tried to be only one person in the project file, but is still kept crashing...
@andyax When Cloud was first released and in Beta it was buggy and internet speed on larger projects (for me) was a reason for slow downs. Especally early on when there servers were only in Ohio... Did you consider just running the postgres database and Davinci Project Server on your local server instead so you had faster latency on project collab? Or do you need editors to be able to work remotely too.
Cloud didn't really crash for me much, but there were project stability issues when it first launched, especially when it as still in beta.
I enjoyed watching this. The storytelling and pacing is superb. Can't wait to see more from what you guys! 🎉
Firstly. How fun is that video!!! I laughed a lot. Secondly. Finally a smart company making smart decision making this change. It is sooo much faster editing on DaVinci.
I love that Norwegian sense of humour. Greetings from Austria!
A few things.
1. I have a basic model 2017 iMac. Ram is only 8 gigs and Resolve rarely crashes. I can count on one hand how many times DR crashes on me in one year.
2. I agree with what the audio guy said about Fairlight. I hate it. I do all my post production in Nuendo as well.
3. I like the Warb Stabilizer in DR better than Premiere.
4. I do like the user interface better in DR than Premiere Pro. I like how each page is laid out opposed to PP. Color page in DR is the best.
5. On the flip side, I’ve never been a fan of Fusion.
6. I like how PP is integrated with Adobe Cloud and Story Blocks.
Final Conclusion. I use both.
I would like to see a video of the team doing this same thing with switching to Final Cut Pro X.
Resolve on my Mac M1 Studio Max (32 gpu core) seems to be a nearly perfect match. No more proxies and as much as possible done on (fast) external SSD means very little file copying. Many years since I used Premier. I still like Final Cuts intuitive interface, a bit of that in Resolve would be nice!
This is the exact setup I plan on getting eventually. Its nice to hear positive things about this system from Resolve users, ive only ever tested the mac studio with Final cut but it was a limited experience because I dont know how to use it.
I've been using this setup for about a year and a half and it's been running really flawlessly ever since. I rarely have more than two video tracks and a "grain" track running. Typically with color correction, reframing, a little local color/light adjustment, sometimes with tracking, and maybe speed change. There was one time when the computer slowed down, but it was 9 video tracks for splitscreen at the start of a documentary/presentation about five refugee projects. The editing format is ProRes and now I do almost everything in 4K.
I absolutely love your videos guys!! So well done! I run a small production team and also switched to resolve because of the Cloud, I have an editor in the Philippines and the workflow works well (most of the time) I can relate very much to your experience (at a smaller scale). Keep on pumping these out, they are great!
Interesting that you've only now switched to it because of the cloud. After all, you were able to self-host a project server for years now and get the functionality of BMD Cloud for free (minus whatever your internet costs). I've been doing that for about three and a half years now for my friends and me to edit collaboratively from home.
This is a million views production guys, videos like this are the reason UA-cam is so amazing! Absolutely fantastic idea to create a documentary out of it :D
A few years ago, I switched from Premiere to Davinci, and I love it! It has its flaws, mainly in the audio page, but overall, I like it. Mainly because, when it crashes, you don't lose your progress, unlike Premiere
AND this is Important Point!
You don't loose anything after a crash on premier anymore. You can no longer speak for premiere as you don't use it. We should be the one telling you instead😂
@@LaviiiiishPrince I mean, sure, better late than never; still, Premiere is behind DaVinci in almost every way.
@@juancisneros725 Saying one is better than the other is a matter of just preference. There no quality of vid an editor can make that can't be made on either software.
In what respect is Resolve better when they're the ones playing catch up. Premiere users who switched and don't know what premiere is currently are the ones comparing resolve to the version of premiere they used. I just demonstrated that now with my first comment.
I use resolve and it crashes too.
Adobe suite is just better suited for my workflow. Who cares about the editing app. Just skill up and be good at telling stories better. That's what matters. Both software are professional enough.
@@juancisneros725 without stating any way that it does
You guys are brilliant! Oh man I laughed soooo much when in the end KIM said "I am still using Premiere" and he laugh...hilarious. I am also planning to switch from FCPX and in the process of researching what our UA-cam community think about the subject matter and came up your fantastic documentary plus informatry video. Well done!!!
As an ULTRA HOBBY AMATEUR... this is awesome and really informative! It's true.. the UA-camr hype had me asing WT WHY!? This video gives some really solid answers. Thank you for this!
Awesome video guys. Love the merch. Keep up the good work :)
You guys have way too much fun! :)
Damn brilliantly put together you guys :)
I am 26, and think the most important thing I have ever found and used as a film maker in Resolve.
Consistent crashing at a particular point in the timeline while rendering will often occur repeatedly until you change whatever variable is broken/causing the crash. I've only had that type of persistent crashing happen once thankfully. Obviously you do get random crashes too but I found they're not too often and Resolve is good at saving its progress. This was a cool look at premiere vs resolve that I appreciated thanks.
Been editing on Davinci for 3 years, on Mac M1 it doesnt crash, its a beast, powers through. edits, effects, color and exporting
gotta agree that fusion's performance is abysmal, I don't understand how can a single text title in fusion be so hard to playback/render when I can literally run entire raytraced 3d scenes in unreal engine in real time.
Resolve CLOUD crashes A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT. Black Magic still hasn’t gotten back to me with a legitimate fix.
Resolve used natively without the cloud works VERY VERY WELL
This was a fun video. Great work!
Wondering how the newer versions beyond 17 are working out for you all.
We were using 18.0-18.6 for this whole video.
I noticed the one clip at 3:50 and noticed it said 17 and thought all of them were the same version, but after a re-watch I noticed v18 and v18.5. I apologize for assuming.
Still an amazing video! All of your creativity is awesome! Keep it up.
Wonderful satire! Well thought out down to the smallest details, like using Windows 11, or testing stability for long term with BETA version of Resolve. You really made me smile! Thank you! :)
Definitely one of your best videos! Making it into some sort of crime show 😀
Props to the whole team! Really good job! 👏👏👏
on mac it runs like butter
Resolve on our mac runs smoother indeed.
"and the girl with the noodles...yea, she is my favorit" Ahahahaha I cant even....
That was such a great content! Really happy to find you guys and also happy for you to join the Resolve side :)
THIS WAS SO BEAUTIFUL.
(The crashes usually comes from heavy editing for awhile an then trying to rendering after your heavy editing. After I heavy edit sometimes, I save and close the project then, restart the computer, then render.)
The production value of these videos are just above the roof❤❤🎉🎉Imma get myself a popcorn and enjoy this
7 minutes in and loving the video so far! Been trying to switch to DaVinci Resolve from Vegas Pro myself, though it's one hell of a challenge since I've been using Vegas for 10+ years and know it like the back of my hand.
When it comes to crashing, if it crashes illogically frequently (like at 7:07 of this video), one of the reasons for it could be a bad graphics driver. I use an AMD GPU and I experienced crashes while just watching the footage without any FX after updating my drivers. To *Resolve* (so proud of myself with this one :)) the crashing, if you're using an AMD GPU, you could try wiping the old drivers using DDU in safe mode and installing driver versions 23.2.1 or 23.7.2 which I had no problems with so far. If you're using Nvidia, just search for versions that are known to be stable in DaVinci and try those instead after wiping the old driver.
Just let me know if you need any help with installing drivers!
Isn't Vegas Pro the really old version now? After all, the program was sold to Magix years ago and integrated into their suite of editing programs as Magix Vegas Pro, if I remember correctly. Can't really remember as right around that time I switched to Resolve.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I've used Resolve for the past 4 years and last crash I've had was more than a year ago. I work with 4K, 10bit/h.265. Mainly Fujifilm, Canon and GoPro footage and really love it
Use the similarity algorithm when stabilizing in Resolve
"and he is old" got me. Nice Job, and great video as always VJUS Crew.
A big thing that stopped Resolve crashes for me was changing (and lowering) Key Frames and Render Speed in the delivery page. Literally stopped crashing and giving weird artifacts in exports. The only time I have issues now is when I overload in fusion. Now it's great. Completely worth it for the Color page.
If I shot content like weekly videos with captions and youtube-style cuts, I'd say Premiere would be the best option. There's more people developing for it, tons of presets are built for it that help streamline the processes, and it's so easy to add captions and animations. Especially when you're just adding a LUT and making it consistent across the timeline. But for long-form, 1 of 1 projects like music videos and fashion videos where color is SO important and you're not using the same effects and transitions every day, Resolve is absolutely the way to go.
Only a light user, but having used Premiere since 2000-isj, and then premiere pro, unlearning Premiere and learning the intended flow of DaVinci was yhe biggest hurdle - using the cut page to cut away the fat in my footage quickly, and then using the edit page to assemble the edit in the next step was my biggest «ahaaaaaaaa»-moment since I’ve always done that as «one operation» on the timeline in Premiere - but it is dependent on what type of project I do, getting a feel for when the cut page is a timesaver and when it’s not took some time but once I got an understanding for that things went much smoother :) Great video, and well worth the wait :)
Wow this was so fun to watch !! I needed a couple seconds for the jocke at the end ;)
A really lovely little film! Thanks guys!
The intro looked like you went from Davinci to premiere pro. All the frustration. If you have based your change based on the big channels on UA-cam that they change blah, blah. They only make those videos for views. They switch back and forth based on what's in at the time. Don't trust them one bit. First, Davinci is 100 times better than premiere pro. There is no doubt, I have used premiere occasionally just to test. Ridiculously bad and unstable. Davinci is the new king, there is no doubt. Good luck.
I have a gtx 1660 and davinci crashed maybe 2 times in 3 years I dunno what u guys are doing lol. i am editing 6k raw 50fps without proxies without any lags, u have to use an ssd for big files, regardless of software. I switched from premiere because so many things were just annoying to work with and the performance was always shit. Enjoy Davinci! It definitely has some problems when it comes to simple features sometimes, but the amazing performance and smooth workflow make up for it 100%. Agreed the stabilizer is actually worse than Premiere. Tip: If you can, use camera gyro, its way better and can be used in multiple editing software or u can combine camera gyro with warp stabilizer for even better results.
Wow great work! I really like the idea of how you made this! This video deserves more attention!
this video was awesome haha i joined the revolution this year. if i can wrap my head around Fusion i can leave after effects behind...it's the only part that i am having a hard time transitioning to. premiere to resolve was pretty easy.
Fantastic! Bought Studio a while ago and these tips were all so useful! Beautifully lit / edited too!
I hope the company will see this video
I really enjoy watching these videos, thanks a bunch guys
Dag Gum! Glad y'all made it and crossed over into "The Dark Side"! I was surprised at the comment comparing Fusion to Nuke. Both are awesome and they are also different from one another; however, when ya spend the time learnin' (I know. Schoolin' sux) Fusion - ya can get some pretty nifty things accomplished!
Me encanto que hayan puesto los problemas que todos los editores tenemos en un documental real! Muy creativo y bien narrado!!
Im 5 minutes in and this is already my favourite documentary, very entertaining well done guys
Thanks for kind words!
If you used Resolve for 10 or 20 years and switched to Adobe - The same problems would inevitably happen. Familiarity breeds speed and confidence. But Resolve for color is in a league of it's own. For years studios with Adobe suites, still went through the hassle of roundtripping to Resolve for color grading. And for good reason. The tools for grading and matching shots, are almost endless. If anyone who does color thinks they can fully do everything in Resolve in a quick succession, they are people to keep. Because some of us have been using it for over a decade and still learn and find new ways to do things in Resolve almost weekly.
Awesome work guys. I enjoyed watching this.
Resonate with your journey. I will say I've had moments where I couldn't understand why something was going wrong in resolve only to find weeks months and now year or two later that I was doing something wrong this whole time. That discoverability or lack of of it is actually th biggest issue but once you know you know.
I had to pause and type something. The built-in stabilizer in DaVinci is wayyyyy better than Premiere. Way better.
Ok guys...
I think, that because some machines where more prone to crashing, this could be a bigger issue of BIOS updates, system settings (GPU settings like GPU resizeable BAR, direct Memory) and disabled iGPUs on the machines. in order to have H265 10 Bit decoding, you need a newer CPU from Intel, that is NOT disabled in the BIOS. This way, Davinci uses the iGPU to decode the H265 10 Bit files (NVIDIA GPUs don't support it!) and the dedicated GPU is used for effects and encoding. Also when exporting, use the iGPU hardware acceleration (Quick Sync) or use software encoding. this has a slight quality improvement in comparison to NVIDIA NVENC.
Best is, disable resizable BAR in Windows, enable iGPU in BIOS and keep the BIOS up to date and chose NVIDIA Studio drivers.
This^
Resolve is 100000 percent optimized for Mac. Resolve has crashed on me less than 10 times with in my switch from adobe premiere back in 2019.
Love how you made this a documentary! Really fun and creative idea. Interesting stuff to see too :) 👏
Loved all of this! Cheers from Finland 🫶
Great vid guys. But I'm super surprised to see resolve crash so many times. I work on client videos on my mind range PC and it has only crashed on me less than 5 times in 3 years so this could be either because of using a beta version is using slow storage. This has to be due to user error or just maybe using the BM cloud.
This was so good hahaha!
That was fun. I switched during 2020 lockdown after many crashes over 20 years of Premiere. Adobe is doing a lot of cool things, why not jump back and forth as needed for the best features.
love your shortfilm ❤
Actually, when I switched to Resolve 5 years ago, one of the reason was stabilization. I found it better on Resolve and incomparable faster than in Premiere.
Always enjoy watching the gang.... Love these from day one.... ❤😊
What a great video! As I’m learning and pending between adobe and resolve - it’s more and more resolve for me. When I learned something in premiere - I suddenly learned it for resolve too. For me as a non-hardcore user for now resolve will do it for me and I‘ll just have to pay 6 more months of adobe then I’ll switch to photo-subscription again. R.I.A shirt is mine now. Great work guys! Appreciate your whole video ❤️🍀
I always wanted to know the views of professional team, who actually work on real projects, on Davinci and not just the views of individuals on UA-cam. This really made me feel good that I started with Davinci. I stated with iMovie then discovered this in the process of looking for an upgrade.
Didn't want to get into the Adobe system, I don't even use crack version of Photoshop and Illustrator. I use Affinity.
Awesome video! Thank you :-)
I love every part of this... So bloody hilarious❤❤❤
Never use Resolve with Windows. Only linux is a way to go. All postproduction facilities are besed on it.
Adobe media encoder does not continue to render while you edit. It stops and when you pause editing, it will render in between.
Great video. Have been using DR for a few years having also used Avid and Adobe in the past. Recommend you guys start using the Remote Render function if you want to keep editing while still exporting. Very simple to set up and an essential workflow if you have a team of editors.
You don't need plugins or scripts to use Fusion to use it out of the box. You only might need it if you are doing advanced VFX compositing like doing multilayer EXR comp work etc, otherwise pretty much everything can be done with the vanilla version of Fusion. The scripts and plugins in Fusion makes it easier and faster to use while adding more features. Also it's actually GPU accelerated unlike AE or Nuke. The playback speed in Fusion only suffers if you have less than 32GB RAM but for the standalone of Fusion studio version 16GB is enough which also runs significantly better than the one inside Resolve.
All the paid motion graphics plugins/templates for Resolve from companies like Motion VFX, Motion array etc are all made inside of Fusion as well.
3 minutes into this video and im more captivated than when im watching a movie.
haha, laughed so much in the first part. from the bread blackmailing to the export graveyard ^^
extremely well done! great mix of entertaining first and education next! loved it! 🔥😘
Glad you liked it! :)
Excellent, just love that ending! 👏🏾👍🏾🙏🏾. 🏴🇸🇪🇹🇹
I couldn’t find the definition of how things went better later on … you just started to like the tool?
This is amazing. Thanks for putting this together.
Great advert ❤ 😂 I have already switched and this is the best decision that I’ve ever made 😊
Amazing video & storytelling like always. Being there a couple of months ago for the workshop and seeing the whiteboard with the amounts of crashes really surprised me. I am extremely good at crashing software, but for some reason, Resolve was a lot better compared to Premiere Pro for me in terms of stability. I'm happy you guys were able to survive the switch. 😅❤
You guys are so Great, I Really like that you doesn't harm any one specially the guy who doesn't have one teeth and I miss that scars too. Btw the traitor was right black magic have to provide that feature cuz every buddy tired of it And it doesn't have caps feature too. If you guys can do something about it please do this.
Amazingly done