I think that it's better to go along with the video and understand why "What does what and why" but I still agree, DIM links are going to be vital when the new subclass hits us.
he has said before in the comments that with this "will it build" series that he didn't do it so that people can build it themselves. I agree that it makes it easier, but I also understand his reasoning.
Crafted round robin with subsistence and hatchling is excellent with this build. Never have to reload and hatchling spawns every precision kill. Easy 1000+ kills in onslaught.
One quick correction: you say a few times that the wanderer aspect suspends when you *throw* a tangle, but it actually suspends any time you DESTROY a tangle. Its the sticky effect that only triggers on throw. That synergizes super well with the rest of the build, cuz you get 2 unraveling hatchlings and a suspension burst that increases your fire rate every time a tangle pops due to any effect. It's incredibly good for the core of the build, especially when your grenade is on cooldown. I saw the thumbnail and got excited, this is almost exactly the build I came up with ages ago and it OWNS. Yours is definitely more optimized, I'll be updating mine to match, but the core loop has been my favorite om warlock since wishkeeper dropped. I've got my Wish-Keeper at level 55 entirely from this build. I jokingly call it my "I dont want to have to play the game" build because of how hard it snowballs through enemies. Great video!
@@daocommand85 I think the only legitimately required thing is hatchling refit catalyst (which you and everyone else probably knows, but I'll throw a description at the bottom anyways just in case). The rest is probably personal preference. I haven't experimented with a ton, but here's my set, the stats from it that matter, and my reasoning: Overview - IMO the most important thing to optimize in the whole bow is more arrows per second (APS?). It's more damage, but it also feels better to use, it's snappier and easier to react to things like missing a shot or an enemy rushing you. Accuracy and handling are next, find a balance that's good for you. Technically reload speed increases APS, but you only have 1 option for that and I prefer other choices in that slot. Base stability feels fine, penalties to it do push the kickback up enough to be noticeable so I dont like it getting too low. To that end... Elastic string (+ draw speed, -10 accuracy) - Better draw is better APS. You take an accuracy penalty, which is actually pretty bad cuz you want to be able to use this bow at long ranges, but we can compensate for that later. If you find you're missing headshots you had lined up try polymer string. It's a tad bit slower to draw, but still faster than base and is +5 accuracy instead of -10, which may be pretty significant. Fiberglass arrow (+15 accuracy) - this is just to compensate for the elastic string, which it does with 5 points to spare. This is a comfortable spot for me, I do notice a tiny bit of drift at longer ranges (I'm on PC). It reduces stability, but that's fine. This takes us to the same accuracy as if we picked polymer step 1, so we're getting better draw speed at the cost of some stability which I'm cool with. Another good option may be compact shaft (+10 reload, +10 handling) if you really don't care about the accuracy. Even better APS cuz it trims the reload animation, and with more handling to boot. The accuracy is noticably lower, so it might lose some long-range value, but it could be goated anyways. idk, try it and get back to me. Smooth grip (+5 handling, +5 stability) - honestly this one is 100% up to preference. I picked smooth to offset the stability penalty from fiberglass arrow, but tbh I think its probably better to just take polymer grip (+10 handling) and just deal with the -5 stability penalty. Idk if I'd take textured grip (+15 handling, -5 stability), cuz the handling on this bow already feels really high and -10 stability actually does feel like a noticeable kick. I personally don't like heavy grip, it feels a bit too weighty for my taste and the bonus to stability feels pointless, but on console maybe not. Hatchling - it's 100% mandatory for this kind of build, and probably just the best in general. You already want to be hitting headshots to get extra stacks, and it's so easy to do when you're suspending so much, so getting such a good boost for doing what you were doing anyways is just too juicy.
@@SageOfBlades poor choice of words on my part. You get the extra rounds on any target that can take a bunch of hits, but on the tankier ones like the Brigs and final bosses where you can dump a whole mag, you can get those type of totals. I have backup mag on mine so have 12 to start and on those beefy targets can get those numbers. On the Brigs and Servitors it also hits like a truck due to deconstruct as well.
@@pheonixeternal8981 The perk Deconstruct in the 4th collum "Dealing sustained damage grants bonus damage agains vehicles and cronstructs AND refunds ammunition." shooting something 4 times basically gives you triple tap/fttc for the rest of the mag but you dont need crits.
I dare thee to try the amazing invisible cricket build!! Which revolves around the Final warning exotic, the sixth coyote and enemies not being able to see you! Use this to clear the 50 waves of legend onslaught 🤘🏼 Weapons: -Final warning -Disorienting grenade launcher -Strand heavy with hatchling or anything you like (if it’s a rocket you could cover all three champs with this build) Subclass: -threadrunner -gamblers dodge -shackle grenade -whirling maelstrom -threaded specter Fragments: -isolation -warding -evolution -last one can be generation, binding or rebirth :) Mods: Helmet: -harmonic siphon -heavy finder -dynamo Arms: -harmonic loader -impact induction -focusing strike Chest: -resistances Legs: -recuperation -innervation -strand surge Class: -reaper -bomber -powerful attraction Artifact: -unraveling orbs -horde shuttle Fill in the blanks as needed, resilience and discipline as priorities. Game loop: Blind enemies with your gl, throw your melee to unravel, tag enemies with the final warning, hit stronger and surviving enemies with precision shots to clean up and get that bonus damage. Use the dodge to leave the specter and become invisible when needed as well as your grenade. Create maelstroms, threadlings and have a blast doing so :) Posted by Charlie (TIMELOST)#8226
Had a whole bunch of fun with Swarmers this season. I do have two suggestions for if you dont have the Bow or you're not vibing with it. Old Sterling with Rewind Rounds & Hatchling OR Rufus' with Demolitionist & Hatchling (Enhanced if you can!) Rufus' goes really well whatever the Aspects you're running you either have your Shackle for Weavers Call or Threadling Grenade ready to go almost always when you have 100 Discipline too. Mess around with Impact Induction? Melee gives Grenade energy (Might have that one backwards!) It gets a bit silly with Unravelling Orbs & Hoarde Shuttle!
So I have been using a build just like this for a while now. I go between the bow nd and basically any strand weapon that has threadlelings. One thing I see that can make it that much better is you are constantly leaving threadling grenades behind, ones close to you you should throw them as they proc your unraveling, and shoot everything you can see as they also start to proc everything. There are times when my screen just glows green, and nobody can see anything. Old sterling with threading works awesome, and so does a worked perpetulas. I go back and forth just because I get bored and like auto rifles. The final warning works for close quarter maps as well. Definitely play around with weapons. Super fun build.
I actually used this build today with randoms to get the 50 wave Legend Onslaught completion! In my opinion this is a far better Strand Warlock build than the Necrotic Grip/Osteo/Thorn build. The amount of Crowd Control you can do with this build is wild, and the Threadlings do respectable damage with all the Unraveling. Thank you so much for this build!
Been maining this since lightfall started. If you like threadlings try thread of rebirth, works really well with the strand bow as well as semiotician and tusk of the boar if you go that route.
I just tried this out and I'm really liking it with a Demolitionist + Onslaught Marcato-45 LMG. Eating the grenade for weaver's trance reloads it. Kill a few adds for Onslaught stacks and rev up for major/boss damage. Also was using Wild Style w/ Envious Assassin and Collective Action + Disorienting.
Change to buried bloodline, Vengeful whisper with tempo and hatchling Bloodline gives devour and very easy to keep up time due to unravelling and threadings killing everything
Yes Weavers Trance does count as grenade kills. If you use triple firepower and the poison warlock build, you make orbs every single second. Pretty nuts. Great vid!
I played this build with two Orpheus hunters and we struggled a bit killing the tormentors. Do you have any tips on what weapons you used between you and your teammates?
@@micah_up Seems like a good reason to look for content creators who provide said link for similar builds. Dude is litterally copying a build from his discord. No real reason to prevent easily accessible build link for your audience, unless you just want to force them to watch your video to the end for metrics.
@@Retpal94 yeah him not knowing that weavers trance procs grenade kills kinda turned me off for the rest of the video, bro is a buildcrafting youtuber and doesnt know one of the most core mechanics for strandlock
i find it funny that i kind of had that exact same build, just without the swarmers i i didnt have that till i did the wish quests, works like a charm lmao
Combat Medic Hunter 100 mobility, 100 discipline. And 100 resilience if you can get it. Alternate acrobat dodge to make team mates radiant and healing grenade. Ult is up to you. Knock em Down, On Your Mark Ember of Tempering, Solace, Singeing, Benevolence, Mercy Aeon swift- Sect of Vigor (or Sect of Force if you prefer more damage) Any solar weapon I use auto rifle with incandescent.
The crazy thing about this build is you could use something like a rufus with demo to get your grenade back faster and you free up an exotic slot. Obviously the bow and quicksilver are great, but I can't help but think about using rufus+buried bloodline for infinite healing as well plus devour will grant more ability energy regeneration.
Been rocking this build and the ONLY thing I changed is get 100 discipline with the new demo chain forbearance so you can swap thread of generation for thread of rebirth. EVERY bow kill spawns a threadling. Sometimes 2
I can attest to this build being OP. So much so, that my clan mates request it when we’re doing 50 waves. When I saw hatchling was a perk on this bow, I immediately knew how nasty it would be with swammers
You only get orbs from siphon mods on weapon kills, so you can't get an orb from both a siphon mod and a firepower mod at the same time. Rapid ability kills will occasionally give orbs at base of the game so you likely got the grenade final blow... one for that reason plus one from firepower and one from your subclass spec.
The synergy for the ashes to assets “might” even work with demolitionist, therefore, I think a marcato with demo and golden tricorn will synergize nicely with this build, cause if it works the way I’m thinking of, tricorn would be up times 2 most of the time!
Alt weps Rufus with demo/threadling as you mentioned but Eyes of Tomorrow for the heavy. In onslaught you basically get your rocket back for free [only need to get 4 kills] and it's hilarious with weavers trance.
I use that same strand tangle build except with necrotic grips, thorn, and usually a forbearance and an edge transit. The DOT from thorn and necrotic means I dont need to focus as much on small ads and they auto tangle everything else
Dood! Ive been keeping this one to myself, been rocking this exact build for the entire season, and yes it does absolutely SLAP!!! I’ve found this build actually has more crowd control than Tether Hunter. Wish Keeper is such an underrated and overlooked exotic. You should also add that Wish Keeper should have the Threadling refit.
I completed my first legend onlsaught with this build. My fireteam couldn’t believe how much it was good. My friend I did my run with prefers threadling builds instead of suspension, but he changed his mind after seeing me cook everything on the field 😂
This build but with Final Warning would go insane. You would literally have threadlings everywhere because Final Warning unravels targets and the artifact mod Horde Shuttle damaging unraveled targets creates threadlings. It’s literally a whole damn army of those green bastards.
Yeah, Final Warning, Wish-Keeper, and Quicksilver Storm are all pretty valid here, and something like Round Robin if you wanna free up exotic. Bear in mind that Wish-Keeper is a longer range than final warning and does have hatchling, and you have plenty of ways to unravel without Final Warning in this build, so I'd actually support the Wish-Keeper option here
I genuinely think Final Warning outclasses Quicksilver Storm in super close range combat. It's so much more streamlined and still rips things to shreds.
I use a very similar build, just using the Eye of Another World for extra 50% + speed at recovery for my melee, grenade and class ability. I like to run Scatter Signal + Indebted Kindness but the problem of running out of ammo is still present so I'm definitely giving a try to the bow.
The extra suspend from bow can be overkill. Can replace it with weapon of sorrow (osteo,thorn etc) + necrotic arms for more aoe damage instead + just throwing a melee once in a while to start unraveling a whole lane lol.
This build is awesome. I’m excited to try these variations. Unfortunately I don’t see it being as strong in high level content in the future without horde shuttle, it just makes up such a large portion of your damage output. The crowd control is still gonna be nuts and is perfect for onslaught though.
It's a great bow. Awesome on hunter with sixth coyote too. I usually run something aimilar to this build with thorn+necrotic grips. Eat grenade, throw melee, blast away.
The suspending burst yes and no activates from my personal testing and playing a lot of onslaught tested. It seems like a 50/50 chance that they all activate or at least one of them will activate with it. I've had sometimes where I've gotten an orb to drop but no class ability energy and I've had other times where I got a ton of class ability energy and dig an extra orb at all. It just seems to be random.
same for me,it does seem to be inconsistent since you have so much unravel and threadlings going on its hard to make sure the suspending burst is what gets the kill and not anything else.The three orbs mac got there had 1 orb from thread of wisdom as that spawns of killing any suspended target,1 from reaper and not sure whether the third was actually from firepower or the siphon.
This build with Thorn and Necrotic Grips is dirty. You not only get all the suspend effects you have poison spreading as well. You tag the high health enemies with one arcane needle melee and you can melt them insanely quick with thorn.
Personally run a crafted Perpetualis, Indebted Kindness w/ Permeability and Leviathan's Breath in the same build more or less - still gives you full coverage of champions, but lets you stunlock bosses and offers better single target dps in my experience.
Pretty solid build, especially when you can hit the right notes on the gameplay loop (sometimes you're still competing with teammates for kills or to proc certain things). But man, one it rains it pours. The entire screen turns green!
imo the build is better when you just main Indebted Kidness. Indebted Kidness is OP for onslaught. Build into it with special ammon finder, arc surge etc its a beast. Pair it will gally or an explosive light Apex and you good to go. Bows just aint the pllay in onslaught imo. You are better off with quicksilver or the final warning
That's crazy! I use the same build but I use vengeful whisper with archers tempo/Hatchling and buried bloodline. HIGHLY recommend trying this, you're incredibly tanky and the weakening from the BB caty is mental!
I dunno why I I didn't think of this yet. It's basically the old Osteo striga build. Swapping the necrotic grips for swarmer's and the striga for wish keeper. thanks!!
I had this build almost exactly like his that I’ve been using for a while and was thinking of submitting it glad someone got the word out there about how good it is
It goes even harder with battle harmony, you get 50% damage on all Spending and when you super is fill you get the addded 24% damage as well and it stackes.
Specifically for Onslaught, Crowd Control builds are better, in my opinion. For example, Stasis builds like Shadebinder with Osmiomancy Gloves "Stasis turrets", following by Broodweaver with Necrotic Grip and Thorn.
I rock this Build with the exact same Fragements etc but i switch the Fragment which gives Orb of Power on Suspending final blow with the Fragment that spawns Threadlings on Strand Final Blows.
10:04 I think one of your orbs was from Thread of Wisdom definitely (threadling eliminated a suspended enemies), and another was from Reaper definitely. The 3rd orb could have been from either the siphon or from firepower
@@MacticsG1 It could still be siphon orb too. Because, and correct me if I'm wrong, if the threadling from the weapon's hatchling perk gets a kill, that counts as a weapon kill. Again, I might be wrong on that.
@@MacticsG1 I also did see a random reddit comment that only if the actual suspend action from Weaver's Trance gets a kill will it proc Firepower. Haven't tested it myself, but just wanted to relay that too. I think that goes for bolstering detonation and momentum transfer too. They might only proc when enemies get hit and suspended from Weaver's Trance, not for damage you do with weapons to those suspended enemies.
Amazing build and video! Only thing I would change is the fragment that gives orb for defeating suspended targets to the one that makes suspension last longer.
Hey, I have a flavor of this build after I got bored of my strand grippy warlock! Nice! Apparently, the exotic was bugged at one point in the past, so that may be why it wasn't more widely used and is just now getting mainstream attention. Wish the pants were less ugly, though...
I just have to fiddle around with my Swarmers build a little, but I'd love to run this with my "Bones of the Threadling Queen" Warlock fashion. I wonder if the build will also help carry my friend through Legend Lightfall. Testing will begin.
I really appreciate when DIM links are included to expedite the process to be able to jump right in with the build.
I think that it's better to go along with the video and understand why "What does what and why" but I still agree, DIM links are going to be vital when the new subclass hits us.
It's such a life saver having that dim link
@@Transfigurated Agree DIM link appreciated
he has said before in the comments that with this "will it build" series that he didn't do it so that people can build it themselves. I agree that it makes it easier, but I also understand his reasoning.
@@AggieCEO Which makes zero sense because then why go into detail explaining load-out mods, weapons, artifact details, etc., etc.
Crafted round robin with subsistence and hatchling is excellent with this build. Never have to reload and hatchling spawns every precision kill. Easy 1000+ kills in onslaught.
That's my build with indetbed kindness and dragons breath
I tried this and I like wish keeper more, round robin damage falls off too hard
@@derek3231 RR is just to open up a exotic slot and not damage. You just use it for the thread of isolation severing burst!
Only problem is getting the damn red borders man.
@@Cheekbeater I farmed mine in 1 day. You just gotta farm Heroic Patrols!
One quick correction: you say a few times that the wanderer aspect suspends when you *throw* a tangle, but it actually suspends any time you DESTROY a tangle. Its the sticky effect that only triggers on throw. That synergizes super well with the rest of the build, cuz you get 2 unraveling hatchlings and a suspension burst that increases your fire rate every time a tangle pops due to any effect. It's incredibly good for the core of the build, especially when your grenade is on cooldown.
I saw the thumbnail and got excited, this is almost exactly the build I came up with ages ago and it OWNS. Yours is definitely more optimized, I'll be updating mine to match, but the core loop has been my favorite om warlock since wishkeeper dropped. I've got my Wish-Keeper at level 55 entirely from this build. I jokingly call it my "I dont want to have to play the game" build because of how hard it snowballs through enemies.
Great video!
Hey how did you rebuild your bow? Which strings and other options?
@@daocommand85 I think the only legitimately required thing is hatchling refit catalyst (which you and everyone else probably knows, but I'll throw a description at the bottom anyways just in case). The rest is probably personal preference. I haven't experimented with a ton, but here's my set, the stats from it that matter, and my reasoning:
Overview - IMO the most important thing to optimize in the whole bow is more arrows per second (APS?). It's more damage, but it also feels better to use, it's snappier and easier to react to things like missing a shot or an enemy rushing you. Accuracy and handling are next, find a balance that's good for you. Technically reload speed increases APS, but you only have 1 option for that and I prefer other choices in that slot. Base stability feels fine, penalties to it do push the kickback up enough to be noticeable so I dont like it getting too low. To that end...
Elastic string (+ draw speed, -10 accuracy) - Better draw is better APS. You take an accuracy penalty, which is actually pretty bad cuz you want to be able to use this bow at long ranges, but we can compensate for that later. If you find you're missing headshots you had lined up try polymer string. It's a tad bit slower to draw, but still faster than base and is +5 accuracy instead of -10, which may be pretty significant.
Fiberglass arrow (+15 accuracy) - this is just to compensate for the elastic string, which it does with 5 points to spare. This is a comfortable spot for me, I do notice a tiny bit of drift at longer ranges (I'm on PC). It reduces stability, but that's fine. This takes us to the same accuracy as if we picked polymer step 1, so we're getting better draw speed at the cost of some stability which I'm cool with. Another good option may be compact shaft (+10 reload, +10 handling) if you really don't care about the accuracy. Even better APS cuz it trims the reload animation, and with more handling to boot. The accuracy is noticably lower, so it might lose some long-range value, but it could be goated anyways. idk, try it and get back to me.
Smooth grip (+5 handling, +5 stability) - honestly this one is 100% up to preference. I picked smooth to offset the stability penalty from fiberglass arrow, but tbh I think its probably better to just take polymer grip (+10 handling) and just deal with the -5 stability penalty. Idk if I'd take textured grip (+15 handling, -5 stability), cuz the handling on this bow already feels really high and -10 stability actually does feel like a noticeable kick. I personally don't like heavy grip, it feels a bit too weighty for my taste and the bonus to stability feels pointless, but on console maybe not.
Hatchling - it's 100% mandatory for this kind of build, and probably just the best in general. You already want to be hitting headshots to get extra stacks, and it's so easy to do when you're suspending so much, so getting such a good boost for doing what you were doing anyways is just too juicy.
Don’t sleep on Indebtedness Kindness with Deconstruct. You can pop off like 20 rounds in a row on some of the bosses.
wait, deconstruct ? .why can you get so many shots depending on the boss with this?
@@SageOfBlades poor choice of words on my part. You get the extra rounds on any target that can take a bunch of hits, but on the tankier ones like the Brigs and final bosses where you can dump a whole mag, you can get those type of totals. I have backup mag on mine so have 12 to start and on those beefy targets can get those numbers. On the Brigs and Servitors it also hits like a truck due to deconstruct as well.
@@Oldgamer127wait what would I need to do to get all those extra ammo in the clip on indebted?
@@pheonixeternal8981
The perk Deconstruct in the 4th collum "Dealing sustained damage grants bonus damage agains vehicles and cronstructs AND refunds ammunition."
shooting something 4 times basically gives you triple tap/fttc for the rest of the mag but you dont need crits.
I dare thee to try the amazing invisible cricket build!!
Which revolves around the Final warning exotic, the sixth coyote and enemies not being able to see you! Use this to clear the 50 waves of legend onslaught 🤘🏼
Weapons:
-Final warning
-Disorienting grenade launcher
-Strand heavy with hatchling or anything you like (if it’s a rocket you could cover all three champs with this build)
Subclass:
-threadrunner
-gamblers dodge
-shackle grenade
-whirling maelstrom
-threaded specter
Fragments:
-isolation
-warding
-evolution
-last one can be generation, binding or rebirth :)
Mods:
Helmet:
-harmonic siphon
-heavy finder
-dynamo
Arms:
-harmonic loader
-impact induction
-focusing strike
Chest:
-resistances
Legs:
-recuperation
-innervation
-strand surge
Class:
-reaper
-bomber
-powerful attraction
Artifact:
-unraveling orbs
-horde shuttle
Fill in the blanks as needed, resilience and discipline as priorities.
Game loop:
Blind enemies with your gl, throw your melee to unravel, tag enemies with the final warning, hit stronger and surviving enemies with precision shots to clean up and get that bonus damage. Use the dodge to leave the specter and become invisible when needed as well as your grenade. Create maelstroms, threadlings and have a blast doing so :)
Posted by Charlie (TIMELOST)#8226
You have a dim link bro?
Had a whole bunch of fun with Swarmers this season. I do have two suggestions for if you dont have the Bow or you're not vibing with it. Old Sterling with Rewind Rounds & Hatchling OR Rufus' with Demolitionist & Hatchling (Enhanced if you can!) Rufus' goes really well whatever the Aspects you're running you either have your Shackle for Weavers Call or Threadling Grenade ready to go almost always when you have 100 Discipline too. Mess around with Impact Induction? Melee gives Grenade energy (Might have that one backwards!) It gets a bit silly with Unravelling Orbs & Hoarde Shuttle!
At last, some love for the warlocks!! Fed up with void hunter and strand titan dominating! Thanks Mactics!
So I have been using a build just like this for a while now. I go between the bow nd and basically any strand weapon that has threadlelings. One thing I see that can make it that much better is you are constantly leaving threadling grenades behind, ones close to you you should throw them as they proc your unraveling, and shoot everything you can see as they also start to proc everything. There are times when my screen just glows green, and nobody can see anything. Old sterling with threading works awesome, and so does a worked perpetulas. I go back and forth just because I get bored and like auto rifles. The final warning works for close quarter maps as well. Definitely play around with weapons. Super fun build.
I use this build all the time, and I love it. Totally underrated.
GG, congratulations on becoming a full time content creator and giving up your day job, that's a huge achievement.
I actually used this build today with randoms to get the 50 wave Legend Onslaught completion! In my opinion this is a far better Strand Warlock build than the Necrotic Grip/Osteo/Thorn build. The amount of Crowd Control you can do with this build is wild, and the Threadlings do respectable damage with all the Unraveling. Thank you so much for this build!
I was surprised at just how effective Final Warning w/Swarmers was last night. It worked extremely well.
I don't have the side arm so been using the craft able one from season of plunder with voltshot
get it bro... indebted is just perfect with wishkeeper, been using in a bunch of gms
I would like to get it also. Never can get people to help a old guy out
@wesschepman what's your ID my clan is always helping people though stuff, and we are mostly a bit older as well can definitely help you out
@@wesschepman Cyco#3414 i will mate :)
Would also like some help getting it 😭
Been maining this since lightfall started. If you like threadlings try thread of rebirth, works really well with the strand bow as well as semiotician and tusk of the boar if you go that route.
Tusk of the Boar absolutely cooks with this strand build.
@@StarDust_2077 facts! I’ve been enjoying a hatchling roll more than a chain reaction roll for this build. You make a ridiculous amount of threadlings
Comedy gold....can't plan for that timing..."This build can handle everything!"....Immediately dies...."huh....neat"
I just tried this out and I'm really liking it with a Demolitionist + Onslaught Marcato-45 LMG. Eating the grenade for weaver's trance reloads it. Kill a few adds for Onslaught stacks and rev up for major/boss damage. Also was using Wild Style w/ Envious Assassin and Collective Action + Disorienting.
Marcato demo hatchling random role is excellent too. Not dps alt though. More primary use. Thank @Maven for a great vid on this tip
Brigand's Law with voltshot and feeding frenzy feels really nice..you can really get some super fast reloading
Change to buried bloodline, Vengeful whisper with tempo and hatchling
Bloodline gives devour and very easy to keep up time due to unravelling and threadings killing everything
Tusk of the boar with slice + hatchling , might also be solid , and the strand rocket sidearm we are getting ...
Yoooo! At 16:26, the editor killed it. The sound choice, the clips, the vibe... OVERKILL; EXTERMINATION!
Well done brother/sis/whatever you is.
Yes Weavers Trance does count as grenade kills. If you use triple firepower and the poison warlock build, you make orbs every single second. Pretty nuts. Great vid!
Yeah I just tried this exactly with a Well Warlock and Orpheus Hunter, smooth as hell all the way through on Legend, awesome build.
I played this build with two Orpheus hunters and we struggled a bit killing the tormentors. Do you have any tips on what weapons you used between you and your teammates?
Would you mind doing DIM links sir? Would make builds super easy to copy
@@micah_up Seems like a good reason to look for content creators who provide said link for similar builds. Dude is litterally copying a build from his discord. No real reason to prevent easily accessible build link for your audience, unless you just want to force them to watch your video to the end for metrics.
@@Retpal94 yeah him not knowing that weavers trance procs grenade kills kinda turned me off for the rest of the video, bro is a buildcrafting youtuber and doesnt know one of the most core mechanics for strandlock
i find it funny that i kind of had that exact same build, just without the swarmers i i didnt have that till i did the wish quests, works like a charm lmao
Congrats to becoming a full time streamer! That’s Huge, keep up the dope content.
Combat Medic Hunter
100 mobility, 100 discipline. And 100 resilience if you can get it.
Alternate acrobat dodge to make team mates radiant and healing grenade.
Ult is up to you.
Knock em Down, On Your Mark
Ember of Tempering, Solace, Singeing, Benevolence, Mercy
Aeon swift- Sect of Vigor (or Sect of Force if you prefer more damage)
Any solar weapon I use auto rifle with incandescent.
The crazy thing about this build is you could use something like a rufus with demo to get your grenade back faster and you free up an exotic slot. Obviously the bow and quicksilver are great, but I can't help but think about using rufus+buried bloodline for infinite healing as well plus devour will grant more ability energy regeneration.
you can also throw the battery things at your team mates to heal them as well
Might want to switch that artifact perk for sorry weapon scorch to the origin trait one to help boost your sidearm damage
Congrats on going full time! That's a heck of a milestone, good sir.
Been rocking this build and the ONLY thing I changed is get 100 discipline with the new demo chain forbearance so you can swap thread of generation for thread of rebirth. EVERY bow kill spawns a threadling. Sometimes 2
I can attest to this build being OP. So much so, that my clan mates request it when we’re doing 50 waves. When I saw hatchling was a perk on this bow, I immediately knew how nasty it would be with swammers
Got my first 50 wave clear on legend with this build. If you’re on the fence, try it. It’s really a strong build
Congrats on Full Time content creation Mac! Wish you all the best man 💯🎉
You only get orbs from siphon mods on weapon kills, so you can't get an orb from both a siphon mod and a firepower mod at the same time. Rapid ability kills will occasionally give orbs at base of the game so you likely got the grenade final blow... one for that reason plus one from firepower and one from your subclass spec.
idk usually use thorn nectrotic grips with weavers trance but will give this a go maybe its better.
That's what I use for our clears
Those mindspun explosions from each weapon kill - they get the boosts from veritys brow as well - fun fact
The synergy for the ashes to assets “might” even work with demolitionist, therefore, I think a marcato with demo and golden tricorn will synergize nicely with this build, cause if it works the way I’m thinking of, tricorn would be up times 2 most of the time!
Alt weps Rufus with demo/threadling as you mentioned but Eyes of Tomorrow for the heavy. In onslaught you basically get your rocket back for free [only need to get 4 kills] and it's hilarious with weavers trance.
0:53 Holy hell what is that Warlock Armor set? Looks gorgeous i need that fr
This is the one I've been waiting for you to put out since you used it live! I want to try this one so badly
I use that same strand tangle build except with necrotic grips, thorn, and usually a forbearance and an edge transit. The DOT from thorn and necrotic means I dont need to focus as much on small ads and they auto tangle everything else
That transition and then the “montage” moment was 🔥🔥🔥. I was just listening at work and had to stop work for a minute to scroll back and watch.
Dood! Ive been keeping this one to myself, been rocking this exact build for the entire season, and yes it does absolutely SLAP!!! I’ve found this build actually has more crowd control than Tether Hunter. Wish Keeper is such an underrated and overlooked exotic. You should also add that Wish Keeper should have the Threadling refit.
I completed my first legend onlsaught with this build. My fireteam couldn’t believe how much it was good. My friend I did my run with prefers threadling builds instead of suspension, but he changed his mind after seeing me cook everything on the field 😂
This build but with Final Warning would go insane. You would literally have threadlings everywhere because Final Warning unravels targets and the artifact mod Horde Shuttle damaging unraveled targets creates threadlings. It’s literally a whole damn army of those green bastards.
Yeah, Final Warning, Wish-Keeper, and Quicksilver Storm are all pretty valid here, and something like Round Robin if you wanna free up exotic. Bear in mind that Wish-Keeper is a longer range than final warning and does have hatchling, and you have plenty of ways to unravel without Final Warning in this build, so I'd actually support the Wish-Keeper option here
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I genuinely think Final Warning outclasses Quicksilver Storm in super close range combat. It's so much more streamlined and still rips things to shreds.
Nah, for Onslaught you need Crowd Control builds like Broodweaver with Necrotic Grip and Thorn.
@@jenikabartlett9396 ah, for Onslaught you need Crowd Control builds like Broodweaver with Necrotic Grip and Thorn.
I use a very similar build, just using the Eye of Another World for extra 50% + speed at recovery for my melee, grenade and class ability. I like to run Scatter Signal + Indebted Kindness but the problem of running out of ammo is still present so I'm definitely giving a try to the bow.
The extra suspend from bow can be overkill. Can replace it with weapon of sorrow (osteo,thorn etc) + necrotic arms for more aoe damage instead + just throwing a melee once in a while to start unraveling a whole lane lol.
This build is awesome. I’m excited to try these variations. Unfortunately I don’t see it being as strong in high level content in the future without horde shuttle, it just makes up such a large portion of your damage output. The crowd control is still gonna be nuts and is perfect for onslaught though.
It's a great bow. Awesome on hunter with sixth coyote too. I usually run something aimilar to this build with thorn+necrotic grips. Eat grenade, throw melee, blast away.
And I thought having dozens of threadlings everywhere was fun, but now I need to try this ASAP 😮
The suspending burst yes and no activates from my personal testing and playing a lot of onslaught tested. It seems like a 50/50 chance that they all activate or at least one of them will activate with it. I've had sometimes where I've gotten an orb to drop but no class ability energy and I've had other times where I got a ton of class ability energy and dig an extra orb at all. It just seems to be random.
same for me,it does seem to be inconsistent since you have so much unravel and threadlings going on its hard to make sure the suspending burst is what gets the kill and not anything else.The three orbs mac got there had 1 orb from thread of wisdom as that spawns of killing any suspended target,1 from reaper and not sure whether the third was actually from firepower or the siphon.
Same. I was just wondering if I had my setup misconfigured and trying to troubleshoot it.
Could switch out thread of wisdom with thread of mind for more class ability if needed?
This build with Thorn and Necrotic Grips is dirty. You not only get all the suspend effects you have poison spreading as well. You tag the high health enemies with one arcane needle melee and you can melt them insanely quick with thorn.
Fun fact too, if your hatching threadling(specifically) gets a kill too it also gives a stack for the bow
You can also swap the wanderer out for weavewalk for added survivability.
Personally run a crafted Perpetualis, Indebted Kindness w/ Permeability and Leviathan's Breath in the same build more or less - still gives you full coverage of champions, but lets you stunlock bosses and offers better single target dps in my experience.
Pretty solid build, especially when you can hit the right notes on the gameplay loop (sometimes you're still competing with teammates for kills or to proc certain things). But man, one it rains it pours. The entire screen turns green!
Replace rocket with Chain Reaction (and hopefully VoltShot) Hullabaloo 💥
imo the build is better when you just main Indebted Kidness. Indebted Kidness is OP for onslaught. Build into it with special ammon finder, arc surge etc its a beast. Pair it will gally or an explosive light Apex and you good to go. Bows just aint the pllay in onslaught imo. You are better off with quicksilver or the final warning
Threading or chain reaction tusk of the boar instead of the bow is great too.
That's crazy! I use the same build but I use vengeful whisper with archers tempo/Hatchling and buried bloodline. HIGHLY recommend trying this, you're incredibly tanky and the weakening from the BB caty is mental!
I dunno why I I didn't think of this yet. It's basically the old Osteo striga build. Swapping the necrotic grips for swarmer's and the striga for wish keeper. thanks!!
As a Warlock main I will be trying this out immediately. Unfortunate that there’s no Dim link though so I have to build it piece by piece
One of my favorite builds of this season. When I saw Wishkeeper would get Hatchling....I knew this build would be a powerhouse with Swarmers.
Quicksilver nerf is basically unnoticeable i cant tell a difference it still does its job as the best exotic in game
there is a necrotic grip / thorn variant of this build that is better at ad control because it adds in the poison affect
Also a graviton lance/ nezaracs sin one that cause tons of boom boom
I had this build almost exactly like his that I’ve been using for a while and was thinking of submitting it glad someone got the word out there about how good it is
Been using this same build for strand made since wish keeper came out. It's been cracked when people slept on swammers
Only difference I use threading gernades amd invest in hatchlings on wishkeeper
Final warning would be good for this too with the artifact mod that spawns threadlings for damaging unraveled enemies
It goes even harder with battle harmony, you get 50% damage on all Spending and when you super is fill you get the addded 24% damage as well and it stackes.
Specifically for Onslaught, Crowd Control builds are better, in my opinion. For example, Stasis builds like Shadebinder with Osmiomancy Gloves "Stasis turrets", following by Broodweaver with Necrotic Grip and Thorn.
I rock this Build with the exact same Fragements etc but i switch the Fragment which gives Orb of Power on Suspending final blow with the Fragment that spawns Threadlings on Strand Final Blows.
I also noticed thart the kills from yor bow Threadlings counts as BOW kills , granting you a charge of snareweaaver
Rufus with demo, hatchling is also amazing
Will it build is gonna go crazy with prism. I can't wait! Most of my builds based off your videos, very useful.
10:04 I think one of your orbs was from Thread of Wisdom definitely (threadling eliminated a suspended enemies), and another was from Reaper definitely. The 3rd orb could have been from either the siphon or from firepower
ooo good call.. yeah probably not siphon cause thats a weapon double kill. so firepower x reaper x wisdom
@@MacticsG1 It could still be siphon orb too. Because, and correct me if I'm wrong, if the threadling from the weapon's hatchling perk gets a kill, that counts as a weapon kill. Again, I might be wrong on that.
@@MacticsG1 I also did see a random reddit comment that only if the actual suspend action from Weaver's Trance gets a kill will it proc Firepower. Haven't tested it myself, but just wanted to relay that too. I think that goes for bolstering detonation and momentum transfer too. They might only proc when enemies get hit and suspended from Weaver's Trance, not for damage you do with weapons to those suspended enemies.
Amazing build and video! Only thing I would change is the fragment that gives orb for defeating suspended targets to the one that makes suspension last longer.
Been using this build all season whenever I get bored of solar, it definitely slaps
I must say.. using the void hunter build.. I'm always 360+ orbs after wave 50 completion... Orbgasm...
Onslaught has sick ammo economy. Ive been using buried bloodline as my main weapon. Going to try double special
Dude congrats that your making this a full time gig. Fuckin proud of ya!
NGL: I love the 27-40 montage! killer music!!
A more common sidearm with volt to craft is Brigands Law as good alternative
Def deserves its own dedicated vid but I think the person who created the build should also be apart of the vid
I run a very similar build, but use a Slice/Hatchling Marcato MG.
i just realized that mactics looks like hayama from tokyo vice and now i cannot unsee it. cool
you should try this build with permiability on the sidearm. its the cherry on top of this build
I swapped out strand leg scavengers with grenade regen on orb pickup. Makes getting shackle nade back faster
I've been using this since day 1 of starcrossed. He's def not lying.
Hey, I have a flavor of this build after I got bored of my strand grippy warlock! Nice! Apparently, the exotic was bugged at one point in the past, so that may be why it wasn't more widely used and is just now getting mainstream attention. Wish the pants were less ugly, though...
Oh, also, try it with Final Warning. It's the Osteo Striga of this build, imo
i’ve genuinely been running this since the start of onslaught so 🔥
Congrats Mactics on the last day well deserved!
congrats on being a full-time content creator!
I just have to fiddle around with my Swarmers build a little, but I'd love to run this with my "Bones of the Threadling Queen" Warlock fashion.
I wonder if the build will also help carry my friend through Legend Lightfall.
Testing will begin.
Best of luck on the new journey, well deserved
this build is actually so cracked. thanks for turning me onto it
So happy to see my beloved Swarmers getting her flowers finally.
If you get permeability on indebted kindness it makes the build go even harder
one thing id take off is just the strand rocket launcher, bad roles that apex can match the damage of with bait, plus no reconstruction
PERMEABILITY on the side arm is very good with strand builds