Minor speed bumps. Maybe they will release psOne classic next year with PS2 classic. And improve upon the build. They will still fall short of everyone's expectations.
@@igorstambak718 True, what I meant was that it could have been one of the greatest mini consoles. The original PS is such an Iconic system. It deserved a better product for sure. Btw we also got the Neo Geo mini, and the Commodore 64 mini.
@@RayzaNC I really think there is a market for these and I do enjoy the Nintendo classic consoles, but products like these should have the right price, and they should be a faithful representation of the original ones in a mini format. The PS linup is just...Bizarre =S
You’ve said everything that needs to be said......very sad because those of us that grew up with the ps1 were so excited to hear this! I went the next morning to preorder.....sad to say I canceled and can’t believe they released this embarrassment
I feel your pain. One thing I thought of was that they should have made it able to connect to the PS3’s PSN. That has tons of PS1 classics that could have been downloaded to the PS mini. Keeping the 20 original games on it of course. That would have made $100 not a bad price & it would have been a step up above Nintendo’s Classic consoles. SMH. I love your videos, John. Take care.
Good video, I'm from Colombia and is awesome to know that the games that for us were very famous and that we love on the Playstation in the 90's and 2000's also were important for people in the usa, our lives were totally different but we love the same videogames
You can.... you can just hack it, these classic machines are only emulation machines.... they're never as good as the originals so it doesn't really matter.
This is actually better than the original so far. It's hackable to an extent unlike the original. Has hdmi unlike the original. An so far the console hasn't had to be turned over or on its side to get it to play. The original had a tremendous bad build. It had taken Sony to get to PsOne model before they made a competent console. The original had an astonishing 1:3 ratio of bad to good consoles. Of course, the internet was young and not very alive back then, otherwise Sony wouldn't have succeeded with those crap made consoles.
Consider me sold. I've shown my son the glory that is einhander and he's dying for a copy. Sounds like importing it *and* a ps1 would be cheaper than a US copy and would open up plenty of other import opportunities. Been playing the import game w/ Super Famicom for a while, but haven't gotten around to a PS yet. Worth looking into from the sounds of it, though.@@JetWolfEX
I think the most important thing the Playstation Classic shows us is just how dependent Sony was during that first generation of their consoles on Third Party games.
That was always clear though, they were rampant in their acquisition of deals with third party studios leading up to the launch of the PS1 because they simply had to. The fact they managed to get SO many and produce so many great games is testament to some of the great decisions made in both business relationships and also hardware (Square moving over from Nintendo as they wanted to make use of CD, for example)
I hacked my playstation classic, it’s kinda worth having now, but it’s a shame It had to be hacked in order to be a decent system... Sony definitely blew it with this one...
Anyone gonna answer what music John using all this time in his intro? I'm still curious for this day and never heard anybody talking about it. Sounds like something from master system.
@@lxlthecrowlxl i did not defend the PlayStation classic either. I have one and they are junk too. I just hate annoying little bitches that only know two words, Raspberry pi.
It's interesting that SONY screwed this up so bad! When the original PlayStation came out, it fixed Everything Nintendo did wrong, mostly in terms of power and storage and treating their fans right and treating developers, and even stores right...Now Nintendo puts out the NES Classic and just nails it....Would have been easy for Sony to counter, But, they didn't even use their own superior in house emulators to honor their past...WTF happened?
I was so excited for this back in September when I pre-ordered. Unfortunately now I hold this up there in mind with the @games SEGA Systems. Never thought that would happen with Sony. Thankfully I was able to return it and get my money back, but that’s not what I wanted. I wanted a beautiful love letter to the days of old when the PlayStation was in full bloom. I’m just hoping this doesn’t ruin it for the rest of retro micro emulation consuls. Crossing my fingers for the N64 mini. John Hancock keeping it real. Thank you for your honest review, we need and I will continue to support you tubers like you. Happy new year, brother!
You are way better off buying the original PS1 again (or PS2 or even early models of the PS3.......if you dont already have it...........i own all of those) and the original games. Upgrade it to HDMI (if you want and/or dont have an older TV), mod it to be region-free and there ya go. With this, i doubt that a PS2 classic will ever happen...............and i actually hope it doesnt.
My only disappointment of last year - I ordered the "classic edition" of Yooka Laylee, from Limited Run Games, and I'm still waiting to receive it. I mean, I know I'll eventually get it, but just as a "if anything disappointed you about last year/2018", that's the only thing, being that I did not get it before the year was over.
thanks for all your work...may i suggest a lapel mic so you dont have to raise your voice into a distant hollow room sounding camera ...they are very reasonably priced .... keep up the great videos..it seems you do put a lot of work into the video aspect of it
I did want to mention a few other possible observations: 1. Games from that generation have generally not aged as well as other eras of gaming, so many of them may not feel great to go back to. I think this is part of the reason there are a lot of 3D game remakes. 2. The fact that the games included required it to be rated M may have lessened the appeal to those with a family, such that the purchase seemed more “selfish” instead of something to be shared.
I don't understand why anyone would buy this. Grab any PS3 used for probably less than $100 & you have hdmi out, wireless controllers and upscaling for ps1 disc games, which you can usually find cheap.
I am a huge Playstation fan, but I am so happy I didn't buy this. What a piece of crap. There are so many wrong turns that were taken with this product.
I always find it funny when Euro gamers from the 80s and 90s would talk about how great they were at games only to find out later that they weren't great, they were just playing them in slow motion.
Not really that's a load of rubbish. I'm in my 60s and still smash all you young kids. Problem with the last few generation's is. They just run now gun. You lot lack brain cells to think tactically. Dread to see you lot go to war. You lot would rush in thinking you can re spawn....
7:25 John Hancock, Nintendo did the same thing, so... But, yeah, how hard would it be to include scanned PDF's of the instruction manuals? Or, failing that, include a really cool art book/instruction book unique to the classic that has instructions for each game.
Why Gran Turismo and Tony Hawk aren't on there? It's pretty simple: That's because the games have so much licensed content, which in this day and age, it is no longer possible to reacquire them. Plus, when you have a licensed game on there, if the license for one of the things in the game runs out and cannot be renewed, either the PlayStation Classic had to be removed from store shelves completely, or remove the game and re-release the PlayStation Classic without the game in-question.
It's been said a lot, but Gran Turismo and Tony Hawk were not included because of licensing issues. Games with a lot of real life people, sponsors, cars, music, are extraordinarily hard to get the rights to reproduce in its original state and flat-out impossible for car games (it's why Forza games are de-listed for sale after the contracts expire). As of why no Symphony of the Night or Crash Bandicoot for example, we have to assume either Konami and Activision said no or Sony were being stupid about it.
when the disappointment is at the highest, it means the anticipations and expectation were at the highest as well, which is sad. That means that we want a PS Classic.
Thanks for the review, I read the games listing and kept trying to find some reason to justify adding this to my collection. Especially when I still have the original and I can't think of one reason to get this. Maybe when it goes on clearance for under $40 or $50 I might consider it just for adding it to the collection.
I waited to buy mine; eventually picked it up on sale for $29. I did hack it with a new frontend and a script to allow me to use a cable that combines a USB port and cable for power. I have around 150 original PS1 games, so I took some of my favorites, ripped them and play them off a 64GB USB drive. Now I've (mostly) corrected Sony's mistakes by adding Lunar: Eternal Blue, Einhander, Tomb Raider and many other classics to their emulation box. So I did make a silk purse out of a sow's ear :)
I bought it and i love it. Why? This is the best looking case with nice controllers for my raspberrypi, not having to lay hands on original PS1. But i am a bit disappointed there are no optional DualShocks for it.
Each Christmas these mini consoles keep being our disappointment. I Did finally buy a family a snes classic and it was a absolute hit, gaming the whole night, just like a classic gaming Christmas. You're right about the pricing, I would never do this ps1 for a 100 when you could recreate the real thing for less. It doesn't even come with a cord!!!?
I hope the suits at SONY don't get the wrong idea and think that nobody is buying the PSC because they think that consumers think that that generation of games hasn't aged well or some other BS. And then give up on offering any PS1 stuff in the future.
Good point or is them trying to make a point and make us think that they are right and that nobody wants to play old games thus proving their point that backward compatibility is not necessary. Thus saving them $0.77 when they release the PS5?? Conspiracy Theory
Yeah no one really should even use that as a criticism. “Haven’t aged well”. The games are what they are, and of their time. That’s why you would be buying this thing and playing them. If old graphics bother you, it’s not for you. The PlayStation classic is doing a disservice to these games by presenting them so poorly.
Manek Iridius No, that was a PS2 they shoved into the early models of the PS3. PS1 was done through software emulation which is why you see issues like Spyro 2 cutscenes losing audio.
Lastly, I'll go ahead and mention the few that, whether if anyone else agree's with these or not, I feel they should have at the least been included (they needed to be, just like you said with Final Fantasy VIII): Castlevania: Symphony Of The Night, Spyro The Dragon, Tomb Raider, Crash Bandicoot, MediEvil. Five, that should have been included. And I mean, I'll admit, I'm terrible when it comes to judgement and making the call on what should or should not be included type of thing; I'll agree with he Tony Hawk game you mentioned, mainly because I never was into those types of games, but I always hear great about them, or at least that particular one, but yeah, I can't make that call exactly. As far as a racing game, again, I wouldn't know what to say SHOULD HAVE been included. But to me, these five I mentioned are the solid essentials that should have been included (and if not MediEvil, because I know there's probably those that wouldn't care about it, or never liked it/hate it, then I don't know what to change it out with - I hate to admit this, but I never had or played that many PS1 games, but the ones I have played, I enjoyed pretty well, so I've included some of those as my picks of what should have been included).
I was SORT OF, considering buying a Playstation classic.... just, as a collectible. So, yeah the $100 price tag is wrong, and especially with how terrible it turned out (not including an HDMI cable is the least of my worries however; I got a new computer monitor that came with one, for Christmas, as well as an additional HDMI cable; I have the NES and SNES classics that each came with one, the Switch that came with one, an Xbox One S that came with one, AND I have the original HDMI cable I originally bought for my PS3, as well as an an extra HDMI cable I ended up with somehow [also my PS3 is currently hooked up, and NOT using the HDMI cable I originally bought for it, so, I don't know how or where the one I am using came from]) - and I have heard the price has dropped (I saw it for $49.99 at Target, the last time I was in there, but that was probably 2 or 3 weeks ago, so it might have changed by now). I never did have "an original" original Playstation; my older brother and I both got a Playstation (and NOT the PSOne redesign), either Christmas 1997 or 1998 (I think it was 1998), but yeah it was NOT an original, original model. I don't even still have the one he and I both got - I ended up buying two others in more recent years; I found one at the Goodwill for $20. I had packed it away and lost it, so I went on Ebay and bought another, so yeah, two, but I think they're the "middle" revision models (I think there were three original models; the launch model, the first revision, and the second revision, all three before the PSOne model was made - so yeah, I think both my consoles are the first revision, they both have the multiple A/V output, NOT directly composite, but also that additional output thing on the left-hand side when facing the back of the console)
ps classic is such garbage especially when you consider that the xbox one can play hundreds of older games right now without needing to buy additional gimmicky hardware. And xbox one actually enhances the games too.
Very good video John. i want to ask you if you collect or have original PCBs arcade like altered beast, elevator action returns, konami games like gradius, contra or Capcom CPS II like marvel vs capcom, dimahoo etc. even more like shooters from cave like dodonpachi, ibara, mushihimesama those PCBs are extremely rare and expensive.
Comparing this classic console to the SNES classic is night and day. This has like 3 or 4 good games worth playing, and the SNS classic has 3 or 4 games that I wouldn't want to play... plus the slash in price, the better menu, the viewing options. Sony really let everyone down.
This turned out to be a great emulation console. If you can get it for the $29 price I saw it at lately go for it and add a 128gig SD card and go to town.
I had no desire to pick this up. Not included Symphony Of The Night was the biggest reason why. This was not my biggest disappointment though. Recently I got a third party console for $60 called SX-86 Mini Games Console. It has a huge library of Neo Geo, GameBoy Advance, PS1/SNES, Sega & Famicom games but some are glitchy, have broken controls and terrible slowdown & sound. If you see one, avoid it at all cost.
You’ve said it best, John. No one else’s reviews expressed my feelings as well as yours. I agree 100%. Haha TM2 is so much better. So many bad decisions. It’s just sad. Such a missed opportunity. It could have been a quality product to be proud of, with games that performed better than they did 25 years later. Not worse! Bad Sony.
Tony hawk pro skater won’t ever be on a stock re release - the soundtrack alone being the reason. The reason it runs slower is not pal it’s the emulator
Thank you! I can’t believe people are defending this cash grab garbage. I’ve even been arguing with people in Instagram because of how bad this thing is. Ridiculous.
My biggest complaint with all the classic consoles is the inability to use wireless controllers. HDMI isn't the only improvement to gaming since the old console came out. Id pay extra to be able to use my ps3 or ps4 controllers. I will just stick to my OG ps3 and original disc games. So much better to play like that.
@@gustavosoto4607 Yeah i got a couple bluetooth SNES ones for my switch, they are awesome. I got a couple 2.4 ghz wireless ps2 knockoffs for 10 bucks apiece off amazon for my PS2. For 100 bucks they should have added bluetooth in my opinion. I have 2 very large german sheperds and they do not understand this archiac wire technology lol. I have a heart attack every time they attempt to limbo under the cables.
I am disappointed in this system. They should have included Tony hawks pro skater, crash bandicoot, and the legend of dragoon. This attempt was very lackluster. This, in my opinion, was Sony's first bomb. Everything they did up until now has been revolutionary and state of the art...
Nintendo does the same thing for manuals, and doesn't include AC adaptors either. Also I like the menu design, reminds me of the PS1 menu when you don't insert a game.
You know, it's funny. I'm a massive wild arms fan and I thought it was one of those games that no one knew about, but everyone does. It just never comes up, despite it being one of the first RPGs that uses a full motion camera in battles
I disagree with you John, Ridge Racer 4 i think is one of the best games on the classic, also one of the best RR games. Im surprised it made it on there TBH. Putting Gran Turismo on there would be a licensing nightmare. I understand why Sony skipped putting GT on there, but still...a bad collection of games on the PS Classic.
Well, there’s some frame rate skipping at some times. Better to grab a USB Keyboard and turn off frame skipping completely, or try to do a retro arch & ePSXe mod for better emulation.
I was so excited until I seen the lineup. I was really let down after it was released and I'm glad I didn't get it. I still don't understand why Destruction Derby 1 is on there when Destruction Derby 2 is a far superior game. Such a great game and a missed opportunity for Sony..
I do not own one of these & couldn't care less about it, but other then that, it reminds me of the raspberry pie they keep making for the Sega mega drive, & Nintendo systems?...
Even retro compilations that came out years ago on the PS2 do things much better than this and they're way cheaper. Not only do they have great games on them which also run great, they usually have all sorts of history on them, like pictures of box art, and even sometimes videos, like interviews and stuff. Seems like the only thing the PS1 Classic is great for is to just be displayed on a shelf, since I do think it looks quite cool.
Would you be interested in the original ps1 box? It's the white box not the black box.. (not ps1 small version box) I'd be glad to send it to you. I can send you a pic if you'd like..
While I agree with most of your points, I actually like the menu aesthetic is pretty neat as it is trying to emulate the look of the original Playstation menu when the there was no disc in the reader. Maybe they could've done it better, but I think that's what they were going for.
Bleemsync is your friend. I kept my unit because the PS Classic is more powerful than the PS TV. With Bleemsync you can play all the Playstation One games you want. The games play fine. My favorites are Moto Racer 2, Need For Speed, Namco Museum Vol 1-5, Heart of Darkness, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Marvel vs Capcom 1, Marvel vs Street Fighter, Crash Bandicoot, Crash Bash, Crash Team Racing, Disney Hercules, Einhander, FIFA 98, GEX, Raiden and Spyro. Can't wait to discover more classic playstation games.
You don’t get to charge more just because the PS1 is newer. It’s still an emulator box with the same emulator parts. But to charge more and then also put in so little effort to make it worth owning. It actually bothers me more than it should. I was so excited when I landed a preorder a couple months ago. When I clicked cancel, a small part of me died.
J Swagner I might get this, because there might be emulator options to remap the buttons to any random USB game controller you have lying around your house.
Thank you for enduring the PS Classic so we don't have to. Even with the game selection, I would have kept my pre-order had I not learned that most games were the PAL versions. But knowing that, I canceled two weeks before release.
That's why I ended up playing Legend of Dragoon by an emulator. I really don't understand why Sony didn't include this game, this was one of their big first party game.
Problem is that the ps1 was a third party juggernaut. If Sony wasn't going to get all those names on board they shouldn't have bothered. Capcom, Namco, Konami, and Activision. I bet a Saturn, Genesis, or Dreamcast mini would do way better simply because Sega made the bulk of their best games.
I'd agree with everything you said but Tony hawk and Gran Turismo were probably excluded because of licensing with vehicles and songs. I doubt sony would have included them either way.
At least I have the real one---a slimmer version of the original PlayStation, but it works a lot better than the PlayStation Classic, and it plays more games (though only by the corresponding discs) than the PSC ever has.
Wow, Dang! Good video John. I wish the Playstation Classic would have been better too.
Minor speed bumps. Maybe they will release psOne classic next year with PS2 classic. And improve upon the build. They will still fall short of everyone's expectations.
First angry Hancock video ever?
true
Super Steaman nope, the AT games angry rant was His first.
My whole life is a lie.
Are you a UA-camr
ı always think immortaljohn vs angryjoe.
$100 and a USB cord wasn’t even included. Did AtGames secretly make this? Honestly wouldn’t doubt it.
It could have been the mini console of the year. Unfortunatly it was not :(
@@igorstambak718 True, what I meant was that it could have been one of the greatest mini consoles. The original PS is such an Iconic system. It deserved a better product for sure. Btw we also got the Neo Geo mini, and the Commodore 64 mini.
What was better?
@@RayzaNC I really think there is a market for these and I do enjoy the Nintendo classic consoles, but products like these should have the right price, and they should be a faithful representation of the original ones in a mini format. The PS linup is just...Bizarre =S
@@RayzaNC snes classic
@John Rowland get a mega sg
You’ve said everything that needs to be said......very sad because those of us that grew up with the ps1 were so excited to hear this! I went the next morning to preorder.....sad to say I canceled and can’t believe they released this embarrassment
I feel your pain. One thing I thought of was that they should have made it able to connect to the PS3’s PSN. That has tons of PS1 classics that could have been downloaded to the PS mini. Keeping the 20 original games on it of course. That would have made $100 not a bad price & it would have been a step up above Nintendo’s Classic consoles. SMH. I love your videos, John. Take care.
Good video, I'm from Colombia and is awesome to know that the games that for us were very famous and that we love on the Playstation in the 90's and 2000's also were important for people in the usa, our lives were totally different but we love the same videogames
They could have put Einhandler on there. The price of that game is outrageous.
You can.... you can just hack it, these classic machines are only emulation machines.... they're never as good as the originals so it doesn't really matter.
and included the Zweihänder soundtrack.
This is actually better than the original so far. It's hackable to an extent unlike the original. Has hdmi unlike the original. An so far the console hasn't had to be turned over or on its side to get it to play. The original had a tremendous bad build. It had taken Sony to get to PsOne model before they made a competent console. The original had an astonishing 1:3 ratio of bad to good consoles. Of course, the internet was young and not very alive back then, otherwise Sony wouldn't have succeeded with those crap made consoles.
Sorry, but that’s a shameless ripoff of Gradius. At least the Japanese PlayStation Classic has Gradius Gaiden.
Consider me sold. I've shown my son the glory that is einhander and he's dying for a copy. Sounds like importing it *and* a ps1 would be cheaper than a US copy and would open up plenty of other import opportunities. Been playing the import game w/ Super Famicom for a while, but haven't gotten around to a PS yet. Worth looking into from the sounds of it, though.@@JetWolfEX
I think the most important thing the Playstation Classic shows us is just how dependent Sony was during that first generation of their consoles on Third Party games.
@Manek Iridius Don't forget even with the PS1 limited resources it was easier to program for, along with the dev kits being cheaper as well.
That was always clear though, they were rampant in their acquisition of deals with third party studios leading up to the launch of the PS1 because they simply had to. The fact they managed to get SO many and produce so many great games is testament to some of the great decisions made in both business relationships and also hardware (Square moving over from Nintendo as they wanted to make use of CD, for example)
I hacked my playstation classic, it’s kinda worth having now, but it’s a shame It had to be hacked in order to be a decent system... Sony definitely blew it with this one...
Anyone gonna answer what music John using all this time in his intro? I'm still curious for this day and never heard anybody talking about it. Sounds like something from master system.
Oh No.... never seen John Hancock growl... bruh, Sony, you got the Immortal upset... You blew it.
Drink every time John says c’mon guys!
First five seconds is by far the angriest I’ve ever seen the Hancock.
I agree 110%. Sony could’ve done way better with this.
Theyre on top this gen they think they can get away with anything.
RetroSteve, I agree.
The PS1 Classic has really changed since this video. It is a powerhouse now.
No thanks to Sony, and all thanks to hackers and modders in the emulation scene.
Too late, launch blew it. Kinda makes you not wanna give money to a company that doesn’t care
Hey John!
Almost one year later it turns out the PS classic is actually one of the best mini's yet.
Time for a re-visit video! 👍🎮
Hey John.....i like those shelves behind ya. Are they modular & where can we purchase them?
bribird991 mini media crates, modular, can be purchased off of amazon.
@@johnhancockretro thank you
Raspberry Pi does what Playstation don't!
Raspberry pi also does what nintendon't.
@@mauryj.3415 You raspberry pi peeps are like Antifa. Annoying little thieving worms who won't go away.
@@lxlthecrowlxl i did not defend the PlayStation classic either. I have one and they are junk too. I just hate annoying little bitches that only know two words, Raspberry pi.
Gut the classic case and put a raspberry pi in it. Now it's fixed!
@@mauryj.3415 hey hey hold it there buddy
It's interesting that SONY screwed this up so bad! When the original PlayStation came out, it fixed Everything Nintendo did wrong, mostly in terms of power and storage and treating their fans right and treating developers, and even stores right...Now Nintendo puts out the NES Classic and just nails it....Would have been easy for Sony to counter, But, they didn't even use their own superior in house emulators to honor their past...WTF happened?
I was so excited for this back in September when I pre-ordered. Unfortunately now I
hold this up there in mind with the @games SEGA Systems. Never thought that would happen with Sony. Thankfully I was able to return it and get my money back, but that’s not what I wanted. I wanted a beautiful love letter to the days of old when the PlayStation was in full bloom. I’m just hoping this doesn’t ruin it for the rest of retro micro emulation consuls. Crossing my fingers for the N64 mini. John Hancock keeping it real. Thank you for your honest review, we need and I will continue to support you tubers like you. Happy new year, brother!
*Rips Ps Classic a new one* "Thank you so much for continuing to tune in to my humble channel"
" you wouldn't like me when I'm mad ", John Hancock playing ps1 Classic.
I would say the most useless product of 2018!
yes! too many issues to list ;-)
You are way better off buying the original PS1 again (or PS2 or even early models of the PS3.......if you dont already have it...........i own all of those) and the original games. Upgrade it to HDMI (if you want and/or dont have an older TV), mod it to be region-free and there ya go.
With this, i doubt that a PS2 classic will ever happen...............and i actually hope it doesnt.
No Fall out 76
@@stephendove5747 what about Soulja boy products? Lol
PS2's are pretty cheap and easy to find. You will also be able to play more games too ;)
My only disappointment of last year - I ordered the "classic edition" of Yooka Laylee, from Limited Run Games, and I'm still waiting to receive it. I mean, I know I'll eventually get it, but just as a "if anything disappointed you about last year/2018", that's the only thing, being that I did not get it before the year was over.
thanks for all your work...may i suggest a lapel mic so you dont have to raise your voice into a distant hollow room sounding camera ...they are very reasonably priced .... keep up the great videos..it seems you do put a lot of work into the video aspect of it
I did want to mention a few other possible observations:
1. Games from that generation have generally not aged as well as other eras of gaming, so many of them may not feel great to go back to. I think this is part of the reason there are a lot of 3D game remakes.
2. The fact that the games included required it to be rated M may have lessened the appeal to those with a family, such that the purchase seemed more “selfish” instead of something to be shared.
I don't understand why anyone would buy this.
Grab any PS3 used for probably less than $100 & you have hdmi out, wireless controllers and upscaling for ps1 disc games, which you can usually find cheap.
John have you had a chance to checkout the Phantasy Star release on the switch?
I am a huge Playstation fan, but I am so happy I didn't buy this. What a piece of crap. There are so many wrong turns that were taken with this product.
Hi William C. Reilly!
There are vids saying you can hack it to add more games. Is this true?
I always find it funny when Euro gamers from the 80s and 90s would talk about how great they were at games only to find out later that they weren't great, they were just playing them in slow motion.
Lmao
Worst thing is that image was squeezed and not full screen. But at least we were playing them in RGB.
Not really that's a load of rubbish. I'm in my 60s and still smash all you young kids. Problem with the last few generation's is. They just run now gun. You lot lack brain cells to think tactically. Dread to see you lot go to war. You lot would rush in thinking you can re spawn....
Ioannis THEY PLAY 20% FASTER!!!
7:25 John Hancock, Nintendo did the same thing, so... But, yeah, how hard would it be to include scanned PDF's of the instruction manuals? Or, failing that, include a really cool art book/instruction book unique to the classic that has instructions for each game.
Why Gran Turismo and Tony Hawk aren't on there? It's pretty simple: That's because the games have so much licensed content, which in this day and age, it is no longer possible to reacquire them. Plus, when you have a licensed game on there, if the license for one of the things in the game runs out and cannot be renewed, either the PlayStation Classic had to be removed from store shelves completely, or remove the game and re-release the PlayStation Classic without the game in-question.
It's been said a lot, but Gran Turismo and Tony Hawk were not included because of licensing issues. Games with a lot of real life people, sponsors, cars, music, are extraordinarily hard to get the rights to reproduce in its original state and flat-out impossible for car games (it's why Forza games are de-listed for sale after the contracts expire). As of why no Symphony of the Night or Crash Bandicoot for example, we have to assume either Konami and Activision said no or Sony were being stupid about it.
If you were to buy a PS Classic, I would get the True-blue Mini USBs that can update the PS Classic Library. It does make it better.
Did you also have to turn the Classic over to make it work?
when the disappointment is at the highest, it means the anticipations and expectation were at the highest as well, which is sad. That means that we want a PS Classic.
Thanks for the review, I read the games listing and kept trying to find some reason to justify adding this to my collection. Especially when I still have the original and I can't think of one reason to get this. Maybe when it goes on clearance for under $40 or $50 I might consider it just for adding it to the collection.
I waited to buy mine; eventually picked it up on sale for $29. I did hack it with a new frontend and a script to allow me to use a cable that combines a USB port and cable for power. I have around 150 original PS1 games, so I took some of my favorites, ripped them and play them off a 64GB USB drive. Now I've (mostly) corrected Sony's mistakes by adding Lunar: Eternal Blue, Einhander, Tomb Raider and many other classics to their emulation box.
So I did make a silk purse out of a sow's ear :)
I bought it and i love it. Why? This is the best looking case with nice controllers for my raspberrypi, not having to lay hands on original PS1.
But i am a bit disappointed there are no optional DualShocks for it.
Each Christmas these mini consoles keep being our disappointment. I Did finally buy a family a snes classic and it was a absolute hit, gaming the whole night, just like a classic gaming Christmas. You're right about the pricing, I would never do this ps1 for a 100 when you could recreate the real thing for less. It doesn't even come with a cord!!!?
I hope the suits at SONY don't get the wrong idea and think that nobody is buying the PSC because they think that consumers think that that generation of games hasn't aged well or some other BS. And then give up on offering any PS1 stuff in the future.
Good point or is them trying to make a point and make us think that they are right and that nobody wants to play old games thus proving their point that backward compatibility is not necessary. Thus saving them $0.77 when they release the PS5?? Conspiracy Theory
Yeah no one really should even use that as a criticism. “Haven’t aged well”. The games are what they are, and of their time. That’s why you would be buying this thing and playing them. If old graphics bother you, it’s not for you. The PlayStation classic is doing a disservice to these games by presenting them so poorly.
Manek Iridius No, that was a PS2 they shoved into the early models of the PS3. PS1 was done through software emulation which is why you see issues like Spyro 2 cutscenes losing audio.
Lastly, I'll go ahead and mention the few that, whether if anyone else agree's with these or not, I feel they should have at the least been included (they needed to be, just like you said with Final Fantasy VIII):
Castlevania: Symphony Of The Night,
Spyro The Dragon,
Tomb Raider,
Crash Bandicoot,
MediEvil.
Five, that should have been included. And I mean, I'll admit, I'm terrible when it comes to judgement and making the call on what should or should not be included type of thing; I'll agree with he Tony Hawk game you mentioned, mainly because I never was into those types of games, but I always hear great about them, or at least that particular one, but yeah, I can't make that call exactly. As far as a racing game, again, I wouldn't know what to say SHOULD HAVE been included. But to me, these five I mentioned are the solid essentials that should have been included (and if not MediEvil, because I know there's probably those that wouldn't care about it, or never liked it/hate it, then I don't know what to change it out with - I hate to admit this, but I never had or played that many PS1 games, but the ones I have played, I enjoyed pretty well, so I've included some of those as my picks of what should have been included).
Is he tipsy? I would be too if I had to review this product. I really wanted to get one of these.
I’ll just stick with the original PS1 model...
Or PS2 or PS3
Because they're backwards compatible
So know we know you can play at 60hz and add any game. Not so bad anymore!
I was SORT OF, considering buying a Playstation classic.... just, as a collectible. So, yeah the $100 price tag is wrong, and especially with how terrible it turned out (not including an HDMI cable is the least of my worries however; I got a new computer monitor that came with one, for Christmas, as well as an additional HDMI cable; I have the NES and SNES classics that each came with one, the Switch that came with one, an Xbox One S that came with one, AND I have the original HDMI cable I originally bought for my PS3, as well as an an extra HDMI cable I ended up with somehow [also my PS3 is currently hooked up, and NOT using the HDMI cable I originally bought for it, so, I don't know how or where the one I am using came from]) - and I have heard the price has dropped (I saw it for $49.99 at Target, the last time I was in there, but that was probably 2 or 3 weeks ago, so it might have changed by now). I never did have "an original" original Playstation; my older brother and I both got a Playstation (and NOT the PSOne redesign), either Christmas 1997 or 1998 (I think it was 1998), but yeah it was NOT an original, original model. I don't even still have the one he and I both got - I ended up buying two others in more recent years; I found one at the Goodwill for $20. I had packed it away and lost it, so I went on Ebay and bought another, so yeah, two, but I think they're the "middle" revision models (I think there were three original models; the launch model, the first revision, and the second revision, all three before the PSOne model was made - so yeah, I think both my consoles are the first revision, they both have the multiple A/V output, NOT directly composite, but also that additional output thing on the left-hand side when facing the back of the console)
ps classic is such garbage especially when you consider that the xbox one can play hundreds of older games right now without needing to buy additional gimmicky hardware. And xbox one actually enhances the games too.
The SNES mini in UK and Europe never had a USB plug either. It's so they can ship the same package to all regions easily.
Very good video John. i want to ask you if you collect or have original PCBs arcade like altered beast, elevator action returns, konami games like gradius, contra or Capcom CPS II like marvel vs capcom, dimahoo etc. even more like shooters from cave like dodonpachi, ibara, mushihimesama those PCBs are extremely rare and expensive.
FYI John, there is a USB power cable included but no power brick.
0:02 My face when I booted up Tekken 3 on the thing...
This could have been so amazing but at least it saved me $100! I'm hoping for an N64 classic this years suitable for HD tvs
Comparing this classic console to the SNES classic is night and day. This has like 3 or 4 good games worth playing, and the SNS classic has 3 or 4 games that I wouldn't want to play... plus the slash in price, the better menu, the viewing options. Sony really let everyone down.
Why did they use PAL versions that do not run well on the ps classic?
This turned out to be a great emulation console. If you can get it for the $29 price I saw it at lately go for it and add a 128gig SD card and go to town.
I had no desire to pick this up. Not included Symphony Of The Night was the biggest reason why. This was not my biggest disappointment though. Recently I got a third party console for $60 called SX-86 Mini Games Console. It has a huge library of Neo Geo, GameBoy Advance, PS1/SNES, Sega & Famicom games but some are glitchy, have broken controls and terrible slowdown & sound. If you see one, avoid it at all cost.
You’ve said it best, John. No one else’s reviews expressed my feelings as well as yours. I agree 100%. Haha TM2 is so much better. So many bad decisions. It’s just sad. Such a missed opportunity. It could have been a quality product to be proud of, with games that performed better than they did 25 years later. Not worse! Bad Sony.
Tony hawk pro skater won’t ever be on a stock re release - the soundtrack alone being the reason. The reason it runs slower is not pal it’s the emulator
Thank you! I can’t believe people are defending this cash grab garbage. I’ve even been arguing with people in Instagram because of how bad this thing is. Ridiculous.
My biggest complaint with all the classic consoles is the inability to use wireless controllers. HDMI isn't the only improvement to gaming since the old console came out. Id pay extra to be able to use my ps3 or ps4 controllers. I will just stick to my OG ps3 and original disc games. So much better to play like that.
Joe Rad a very good point.
Its cool that 8bitdo sells bluetooth controlers for all mini consoles
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Yeah i got a couple bluetooth SNES ones for my switch, they are awesome. I got a couple 2.4 ghz wireless ps2 knockoffs for 10 bucks apiece off amazon for my PS2. For 100 bucks they should have added bluetooth in my opinion. I have 2 very large german sheperds and they do not understand this archiac wire technology lol. I have a heart attack every time they attempt to limbo under the cables.
Wasn't this hacked and there is a video showing someone using their ps3 controller on the console.
@@Sparkykelly1 Not that I am aware, if it has been I would definitely want to learn how, shoot a link if you find it
Pfft. Your expectations were too high for this. Biggest disappointment of 2018 is AtGames completely losing any sort of potential.
You know you're in trouble when the best thing you can say about it is ""Well, I like the box it came in."'.
I am disappointed in this system. They should have included Tony hawks pro skater, crash bandicoot, and the legend of dragoon. This attempt was very lackluster. This, in my opinion, was Sony's first bomb. Everything they did up until now has been revolutionary and state of the art...
Nintendo does the same thing for manuals, and doesn't include AC adaptors either. Also I like the menu design, reminds me of the PS1 menu when you don't insert a game.
Also sony did this with the PS3- they didnt include an hdmi cable just composite cables.
You know, it's funny. I'm a massive wild arms fan and I thought it was one of those games that no one knew about, but everyone does. It just never comes up, despite it being one of the first RPGs that uses a full motion camera in battles
The omission of The Legend of Dragoon is the most baffling because its a first party game, so theres no excuse.
I disagree with you John, Ridge Racer 4 i think is one of the best games on the classic, also one of the best RR games. Im surprised it made it on there TBH.
Putting Gran Turismo on there would be a licensing nightmare. I understand why Sony skipped putting GT on there, but still...a bad collection of games on the PS Classic.
Type 4 was great but Rage Racer was better.
The music on this game is sublime too, the perfect Ridge Racer only bettered on the PSP
@@JustinCherriman 1000% agree.
Well, there’s some frame rate skipping at some times. Better to grab a USB Keyboard and turn off frame skipping completely, or try to do a retro arch & ePSXe mod for better emulation.
I was so excited until I seen the lineup. I was really let down after it was released and I'm glad I didn't get it. I still don't understand why Destruction Derby 1 is on there when Destruction Derby 2 is a far superior game. Such a great game and a missed opportunity for Sony..
I do not own one of these & couldn't care less about it, but other then that, it reminds me of the raspberry pie they keep making for the Sega mega drive, & Nintendo systems?...
I agree. It costs 130 USD here in Croatia. I went to store and asked if anyone bought one. They said "NO".
Sony did lousy job with it.
Even retro compilations that came out years ago on the PS2 do things much better than this and they're way cheaper. Not only do they have great games on them which also run great, they usually have all sorts of history on them, like pictures of box art, and even sometimes videos, like interviews and stuff.
Seems like the only thing the PS1 Classic is great for is to just be displayed on a shelf, since I do think it looks quite cool.
Would you be interested in the original ps1 box? It's the white box not the black box.. (not ps1 small version box) I'd be glad to send it to you. I can send you a pic if you'd like..
While I agree with most of your points, I actually like the menu aesthetic is pretty neat as it is trying to emulate the look of the original Playstation menu when the there was no disc in the reader. Maybe they could've done it better, but I think that's what they were going for.
Bleemsync is your friend. I kept my unit because the PS Classic is more powerful than the PS TV. With Bleemsync you can play all the Playstation One games you want. The games play fine. My favorites are Moto Racer 2, Need For Speed, Namco Museum Vol 1-5, Heart of Darkness, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Marvel vs Capcom 1, Marvel vs Street Fighter, Crash Bandicoot, Crash Bash, Crash Team Racing, Disney Hercules, Einhander, FIFA 98, GEX, Raiden and Spyro. Can't wait to discover more classic playstation games.
You don’t get to charge more just because the PS1 is newer. It’s still an emulator box with the same emulator parts. But to charge more and then also put in so little effort to make it worth owning. It actually bothers me more than it should. I was so excited when I landed a preorder a couple months ago. When I clicked cancel, a small part of me died.
J Swagner I might get this, because there might be emulator options to remap the buttons to any random USB game controller you have lying around your house.
I guess they didn't include the usb-adapter cuz they knew nobody would want to keep playing it after the 1st try so they didn't bother doning that.
I didn't want to be the one to tell everyone this, but... I TOLD YOU SO.
Thank you for enduring the PS Classic so we don't have to. Even with the game selection, I would have kept my pre-order had I not learned that most games were the PAL versions. But knowing that, I canceled two weeks before release.
Good to hear your thoughts! I considered preordering and glad I didn’t.
The price has gone down to $70 in several places. Ridge Racer 4 also has the remake of Ridge Racer at 60FPS...so there's that.
The Playstation Classic is only worth $30 tops.
I expect it to be that price by next year's holidays, maybe sooner.
James Mincks $50 now on Amazon,
I would say a better price point would 19.99.
If that....
You are being way to generous with the $30.00 price point. Its more like a super Budget item, at best it might be worth $9.99
That's why I ended up playing Legend of Dragoon by an emulator. I really don't understand why Sony didn't include this game, this was one of their big first party game.
Who cares bet crash Bandicoot 1&2 couldn't even see the day of light.
Problem is that the ps1 was a third party juggernaut. If Sony wasn't going to get all those names on board they shouldn't have bothered. Capcom, Namco, Konami, and Activision.
I bet a Saturn, Genesis, or Dreamcast mini would do way better simply because Sega made the bulk of their best games.
I still want to buy it but don't think I will ever play it. I will just play original PlayStation games on my ps3. And John I love your channel
Having Twisted Metal 1 - 3 would have been awesome. I assume they didn't do Twisted Metal 3 or Tony Hawk due to license pricing/issues.
At $100 bucks, licensing shouldn't have been an issue at all. Sony is a HUGE company, c'mon man!
Lesson: get the real thing, or just emulate it
What's duelshock
This is the first video I’ve seen where John isn’t smiling. Have a good one, John! Your vids are always enjoyable.
no it aint john its the soulja boy console paid $500 FOR A LOAD OF CRAP lol
The price tag would have been fine if they would have changed all the things you mentioned.
I just purchased on Amazon for just $49.99........... I can't wait to mod it.
I'd agree with everything you said but Tony hawk and Gran Turismo were probably excluded because of licensing with vehicles and songs. I doubt sony would have included them either way.
you can get one today at target for 38 bucks using the cartwheel app.
back when playstation was released we didn't have phones to look at manuals, we had pagers and phone booths
At least I have the real one---a slimmer version of the original PlayStation, but it works a lot better than the PlayStation Classic, and it plays more games (though only by the corresponding discs) than the PSC ever has.