were they just friends or murders? The unknown answers with Tamla Horsford's case - Mystery & Makeup
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Hi friends, happy Monday!
The story of Tamla Horsford is a really unsettling one. Like so many of us have done before, Tamla thought she was in for a cute weekend get together with her girls. But what started off as a lowkey drunken game night ended in Tamla's fatal "fall" from her balcony. Was her death just an accident, or as the only Black woman in this friend group, was there a sinister murder motive at play? Either way, Tamla did not deserve the ending that she got.
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: : CHAPTERS : :
00:00 - INTRO
02:57 - THE HISTORY OF FORSYTH COUNTY
06:08 - THE NIGHT OF
09:55 - A BUDDING FRIENDSHIP & TAMLA'S FAMILY
12:19 - ALCOHOL'S INFLUENCE
23:04 - THE NEXT MORNING
30:09 - THE CRIME SCENE EXPLAINED
37:21 - THE BACK DOOR LOG
39:57 - DUNKIN DONUTS GIFT CARDS & INCOMPETENT OFFICERS
45:12 - BRIDGET'S ACCOUNT OF THE EVENING
57:28 - CORRUPT POLICE CONNECTIONS
1:00:57 - THE OFFICIAL AUTOPSY REPORT
1:11:05 - TAMLA'S CASE GAINS TRACTION
1:15:30 - MORE INCONSISTENCIES
1:19:19 - PERSONAL THEORIES
1:33:44 - CLOSING THOUGHTS
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If theres a cop involved or suspects that have relationships with cops, a different district should definitely step in and investigate
This should definitely be a law
The county or state should have investigated.
Here in Canada they will call in police from another province or provincial/federal police. They always seem to get off though
Agreed
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Tamla Horsford didn’t jump off a balcony & Kendrick Johnson didn’t roll himself up in a gym mat. Thank you for using your platform to get these (otherwise brushed over) stories out!
Justice for Kj ❤️
I always think about their cases. It deeply unsettled me. ❤
i agree especially KJ .... that story enrages me
It's so sickening how these cases are just completely brushed off. Crimes against Black and Native people are so purposely overlooked and it's disgusting, anyone who says otherwise is turning a blind eye. So many crimes that need to be truly looked into. It's heartbreaking.
These cases need to be solved! Poor people need justice!
Georgia resident here, and so thankful that you covered this story Bailey!!!! I completely agree with your thoughts on the events of the evening. It’s the only thing that makes sense with her injury’s and positioning.
Another Georgia case that needs to be re-investigated is the case of high school student Kendrick Johnson who was found dead rolled up in a gym mat. Investigators say he fell in head first. There is A LOT of evidence that says otherwise. Please look into this one.
Agreed !!
i’m pretty sure she covered this case! probably like two years ago or so but i think i remember watching it
Some of his organs were missing!!
YES!! I wonder if the fbi can get involved and reopen cases & do internal investigarions into the cops. 👀
Yes! This case needs to be reopened!!!!
Sometimes I take a break from listening to true crime, but when I inevitably come back to your channel, I realize how much I miss your voice and personality. You’re the friend I always have fun with when we finally see each other again. ❤
I also just like hearing Bailey's voice.
Samesies. I could listen to Bailey talk about anything. Lol. I think she's a comforting personality that we all like. 💗
Lesson from this case: when people treat you rudely, leave immediatelly. It will save your life.
Why anyone would want to be around people that treat you disgustingly is beyond me.
@@merlin2946My thoughts: black women are often stigmatized as being bitter and having bad attitudes. She’s in a group of white women who she doesn’t seem to know that well; maybe she didn’t want to make a bad impression. I’m thinking even if she felt hurt by their comments about her gift, she probably tried to laugh it off and stick the evening out as to not come off as being dramatic and emotional.
Its so sad that her kids will always be triggered by slumber parties knowing thats how their mother never came back.😢
The body language is interesting in all the photos nobody is connecting with her they all have avoidant positions.
@@VanessaElizabeta a lot of black people from the Gen X and Boomer generation, were taught to do the most to make white people feel comfortable: “Make sure you smile” etc etc.
@@ariesunicorn8225 Facts. Respectability politics.
The fact that NO ONE turned her over, tried to give CPR, touched her to see if she even was alive SHOWS they never cared for her before she ever even entered the house. So sad
Or, more likely, they didn't because they already knew
Crazy to think no one ever thought of doing that, they didn’t care at all!!
They did touch her. They touched her leg and said she was stiff. That means she had been dead for hours and she looked like a dead body. Most people are scared to touch a dead person.
@@OfficiallySusanYeah, most people are reluctant to touch a dead body; however, if you don’t know if the person is dead you would check. You would especially check if that person is your friend no matter if they seem to be extra still or you’re grossed out by dead bodies 😢
@@OfficiallySusanyeah a dead person not somebody they don’t even know is dead or not her body would take HOURS to stiffen that means they didn’t mind being around a dead body for HOURS
I love that Bridget was regularly watching the kids. We finally found Zanny the Nanny!
I thought the same thing 😂
Same
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Not Zanny! I don’t want to laugh, it just slipped out.
I came to comment this and you beat me to it!!
Many people can't live with the guilt of these secrets. Hopefully someone slips or they feel the pressure to reveal the truth. Hoping for justice for Tam.
Strange how Jeanne said she didn’t want to stay up because she had to be up by 5:30am but proceeds to “sleep in” until she is “woken up” by her aunt at almost 9am…..
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Also why have a sleepover if you need to get up that early?
@@hannabanana592 I’m just curious what prior commitment she had at 5:30am. Like was she able to just move it around? And if so then someone would be able to confirm that she was up way earlier than 9am. Hypothetically if she was drinking she had no issue going to that prior commitment hungover but something more compelling would’ve had to make her cancel.
I thought the same exact thing! Nothing anyone says in this case is adding up.
im thinking she was stating it more like "i got up at 530, so im tired now." She probably had the next day off to where she didnt need to be up easly.
That tequila stunt should’ve been the red flag to mf leave. I hate this happened to her.
Ugh, I thought the same thing :(
The second was “the female Bob Marley”, the third was the “hurry up get off the phone” with her husband and sons. Yeah. Those 3 chances called for an immediate self dismissal
This was craziness for real smh
@@maatirah6530I wonder if her intuition kicked in and felt off but she dismissed it
A married woman has no business sleeping over anyone's house. Specially where there is alcohol involved. It never ends well.
MMMMDAYS DONT USUALLY MAKE ME CRY. The saddest, most heart wrenching fact about this case to me, is the jammies. Doesn't seem like a big deal, but I heard that and immediately thought of a woman getting to be a girl again, excited for a night with ladies to have fun with. Given her devoted motherhood, this was much more to Tam than some ladies bday party, making it all the more sad how she was treated throughout before a cruel fate.
Your hypothesis as to what happened explains everything, I think you are spot on and that’s what happened
Yes!! I never even thought of her falling down the stairs but the minute Bailey said that everything made sense. For real a lot of detectives could use Bailey. Just give her the information and then let her have a go. I bet we’d have a lot more solved cases and people charged that deserves it.
I agree 100%. Falling down the stairs or someone pushing her down the stairs makes so much sense.
“Ignorance and racism doesn’t get washed away overnight” preach girl
Preach
where does she say this?
@@kadyn_nash4522 it was somewhere in the beginning I can look thru the transcript to find it tho
@@kadyn_nash4522within the first six minutes
@@kadyn_nash4522beginning when she introduced the location
@@kadyn_nash4522 I can time stamp from the transcript of you need it! Sorry I thought I replied this already honestly I just really resonated in the moment when she said it, I had no idea so many other people would feel the same ❤️🌍
Bailey doing more police work than the police. I think we can all agree this is very suspicious.
@melissamoonchild9216 Right?!! Investigator Sarian.
Literally! This!
It literally sounds like a cover up
You mean Bailey’s researchers bc she does not do her own research anymore herself sadly
Why oh why didn’t they let Bridget keep blabbing? Because they KNEW it wasn’t matching up!
So, this happened literally 30 minutes from where I live. The town quite literally has a hush over it. Think of every scary movie, when the main characters drive through the main town and it’s…..odd, Forsyth County is exactly like that. Also. Sign the petition.
my theory (based on this video) is Bridget said she "trusts/loves kids but not adults" partially because she wanted to look suspicious of the other guests, but maybe also because she'd just taken away the mother of 5 boys and was feeling guilty
This case does not get enough attention. Her “friends” absolutely killed her.
Edited to add: Petition signed!
Moi j'en ai reçu aucun aujourd'hui ce n'est pas des habitudes de tatie Bailey 😊
The whole thing was a set up and premeditated I think.
Yes !! These women remind me of Regina George and her minion’s but in their 40’s !! Ridiculous !!
Great case to cover, so many unanswered questions. Your theory is legit the best I've heard! I love when cases like this have been chosen to be spotlighted because the loved ones and the victim deserve answers/justice and that only happens if more people are aware of the information. Great work Bailey! 🖤
Same, signed and shared on my socials
Jose and Bridgette SWEATING wondering how Bailey knows
I thought this too! They’re out there somewhere watching this video panicking all over again because the truth is out there now!
Hahaha for real 🤣💀
No fr !! Bailey’s theory makes SOOOO much sense . This case was definitely mishandled . SMH
She totally nailed this! It all makes sense
@@beckoninglight16 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
I'm so glad you're covering the story! It's haunted me for years! Especially as a black woman with mostly white friends..
Be careful with that!
@@musiclove5517exactly
Same!!!
Molly... you in danger girl!
Please BE CAREFUL, I just don’t trust them 😢
Mother of so many kids... and her husband! That family has been shattered beyond repair. My heart goes out to them. They deserve justice!
Signed the petition to have her case reinvestigated, this is heartbreaking
I'm going to, too! 💔🙏🏻 Her poor family. It's terrible not knowing.
Signed the petition 🤞
Where is the petition?
just signed ❤
Signed!
As a retired police officer, I am disgusted by these officer's actions or lack of actions. They should all be fired. You can clearly see no real investigation was done on this case. Shameful!!!
This is very common way of treating cases that involve people of color here in GA, it’s so so sad
@user-zg9st8ox3mshe didn't say she was shocked
I know you should not go by optic but they look like white entitled brats who think they are better than everybody.
@user-zg9st8ox3mtake a day off, you’re picking a fight with the wrong person in this story 🙄
None, what-so-ever!
After a year of postpartum depression I can finally watch these without getting super scared 🥹🙌🏼
I’m so happy you are recovering! ❤
I love doing my makeup while watching Bailey’s videos. It feels like two friends getting ready while one tells a story.
Prior EMT here, police can’t call us off unless the patient requests us to be canceled or the patient leaves the scene. We have to show up and release the body to a coroner. Police don’t do that (at least here in MS), we do. The police will secure the scene and get EMS workers info if there’s a possibility of foul play. Muscles usually don’t stiffen, to the point they described, until 12-24 hours. That alone should be considered strange.
This case was a disgrace. This poor woman and her loved ones deserve answers and justice. As a fellow Southerner and first responder, I’m appalled by the care she received.
Thank you! I was thinking the same thing. The police can't pronounce a death.
Thank you I found that information so weird I was wondering since when do police call time of death or even give an estimation.
I am a death investigator and there's times I am called to scene and EMS was cancelled because of signs of an "obvious death." This would be decomposition, or obvious rigor. It's rare they call them off, but it does happen. I pronounce when I arrive. If Tam died around 0130, at 0830, rigor should've at the most been partially starting to develop (depending on outside temp). EMS should not have been called off in this case, so sad!
Reading your comment impacted me so much because it's just so heartbreaking to see a mother of 5 go like that. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I do hope that one day this gets resolved
@@MidwestMom As long as you’re called, I understand EMS being called off. Sadly, it doesn’t seem like that’s what happened. I agree that EMS should’ve been called too. I’ve worked one death during summer with someone who was dead for 4 plus weeks. Police could smell them from the street and called us asap. It was a rural area and the patient was elderly and lived alone. They knew it was unlikely there was foul play but we were still called. If we were called for that, this poor woman should’ve definitely had EMS.
Bridgett seems like the type of person to like to talk. One day she’ll talk
I'm still shocked that the investigators stopped the interview!!!!! She was their ticket to soooo much more. Loose lips on that one. What a shame.
@@rebeccaromano2434 They didn't want her to reveal the truth because they were covering up for their friends.
She will more likely squeal "they made me lie" and it will be pointed back at Josè
Je pense que cette femme Jeanne ne dit pas toute la vérité c'est une menteuse manipulatrice elle a invitée cette pauvre femme tamla chez elle pour sa fête d'anniversaire pour en suite la tuée c'est une tragédie tamla ne c'etait pas jetée du balcon comme elle avait dit aux flics en faite elle avait tuée à l'aide de son coplis elle a maquillée le meurtre par un accident c'est vraiment répugnant le racism aux États-Unis 😢😔
Ça ressemble un peu un mannequin français noir sa mort est mystérieuse également elle s'appelait katoucha niane 😢😔💔
Tamela was such a beautiful person and seemed to have such a kind spirit. I pray that her family gets justice. This case has bothered me since I first heard of it.
It’s so frustrating that they clearly had an overwhelmingly amount of evidence to solve this case correctly, and corrupt people were able to control the narrative. RIP Tamla.
Her poor kids. 5 boys without their mama. 😢 so sad.
Heart breaks for those boys 😢
A 4 year old! Smh and all she wanted was some me time/time out with the girls
That's what I keep thinking about. 💔
How is Bailey more passionate and a better detective than the actual detectives?
She should work for FBI!!!
She sees things as they are! She knows the history! She knows people and she's unbiased!
Detectives only solve crime on overtime. No, but seriously. You'd be appalled at how LITTLE police work a lot of detective bureaus do. They're usually vested positions that someone gets into and can retire at...thus, they have no urgency or accountability to actually close cases. At least this is the case at my local PD 🤷🏽♀️
Right!!
Well she probably has a entire team of people that help her research these things. It's also what she does for a living. Probably dedicates a lot time to all her videos
I remember this case. It gave me chills that nothing happened to these people.
Video isnt even over and I've already signed the petition. Terrible people for treating Tam like that and shame on the police.
Jose and Bridget for SURE are freaking tf out right now after this video came out😂😂😂😂
The level of rude in regards to the gift- I’m so sad that her last human interaction was with this group. I wish she had called it a night and a cab😢😢😢
What was the gift? I missed that part.
@@Jessy-nj9cp a bottle of Tequila that Tam brought back from a trip to Mexico.
Great point cat. That says it all. They sounded like they had disdain.
Yeah, that was really mean. Like even if you hate the gift someone gave you, you smile, take it from them graciously, set it down somewhere and say "thank you!".
This group peaked in high school. Major mean girl vibes with jeane as the queen bee and others mimic her regardless of how rude it is. 😢
I really hope Tamla Horsford get justice. I know that the case is closed but you never know and I really hope and pray that her family find some peace ❤
Bailey you should talk about the kendrick johnson case!💓💓
WAIT! There's so much more. Deputy Chris Shelton was fired for posting pictures with black-faced dolls, now get this Tamlas husband went into the Funeral Home where Tamla was, and he said that her face was painted like black face. You can believe what you want but there's a lot more to Tamla’s story. I hope that everyone involved reaps what they sowed.
Source?
@@horsegirlb7120 type in Tamlas Horsford Husband Interview with Tamika Mallory
@@outlawzz9255 Thank you!
@@horsegirlb7120 you're welcome
Oh wow that is really messed up. It sounds like something that one of the really racist groups (probably can't mention those groups by name in you tube comments). that originated in the south might plan as a party. I wonder if those guys that were there were members of any of them.
Bailey! It’s crazy how you say you’re just a “random person on the Internet”, but your theory makes so much more sense than anything the police came up with. Thank you for the amazing work you do in bringing awareness to these cases!
FACTS!!
What she says makes a lot of sense and connects a lot of dots. The one thing I think differently though is about how the Xanax got into her system. I think they roofied her. That would explain why she was effected by the alcohol so much more than usual and the overly affectionate behavior towards the women around her.
Any grown woman who makes a point to not take medications certainly is not going to willingly do so with alcohol in their system.
100% but the only part that doesn't add up is why José placed her so perfectly.. he's law enforcement, he'd surely know to leave her body more accidental looking, right?
@@JP-iz9cz José wasn't exactly law enforcement in the sense that we all assume. He was a pre-trial release services officer, which is similar to a probation officer. They handle people who are pending trial basically.
So I don't think he would know much more than like you or I about staging a crime scene.
@JP-iz9cz her feet being together with toes pointed to the house tell me that she was dragged into that position. If you think of someone pulling you by the arms, your legs will fall into that exact position
The fact that you research and spew all of this back to us in such an entertaining way just blows my mind. Thank you!
Bailey I have been watching you for years now and I just wanna say most UA-camrs after years of posting start to slow down or change their Chanel in ways that viewers end up stop watching, but you are so infectious and talented and continue to elevate your Chanel in ways I didn’t even think it needed to be💖 you’re amazing and I’m wishing you beautiful growth and success your way 💗💗
Lifting her leg up to check if she's dead reminds me of the time I found a dead mouse on my porch. I didn't want the mouse to bite me so I kept slightly tugging its leg. Tam was an animal to these people, not a friend.
Oh !
Do you think tam , she was maybe trying to jump off the balcony to the pooL ?! 😧
@@lizardwhispererfivehead3552 where is the pool? I didn't see one in the picture.
There's no pool!
Not a funny comment!
@@lindag3736 it wasn’t meant to be funny
I thought there was a pool
My apologies 🥹
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO SIGN THE PETITION!!!
Signed it! None of it makes sense and needs to be reopened.
(ﾉ´ヮ´)ﾉ*: ･ﾟyes !
Yes!!!
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Absolutely
@@lizardwhispererfivehead3552yup
Bailey you doing the accents & that impression of Bridget is the best part of this video 😂 I believe part of the reason you’re so successful as a UA-camr is because you’re actually HILARIOUS. I love you!!!
Thank you so much for all the photos/descriptions of the house and people. Context is so important!
I think it is also possible that the drugged her with Xanax as a "prank". They had bullied her before and I suspect she was the punching bag of the evening.
i wouldn't be surprised. And as someone who didn't take Xanax regularly like the other women, even if she did take it willingly;she may not have known about the interaction with alcohol. Whether an accident or on purpose, someone needs to be in jail. Five boys are without a mother.
My thoughts exactly, she was drugged making their guilty conscience even more evident
I was thinking this same thing and then something bad happened and they tried to cover it up
Thats my exact thought. Always have.
I actually think Bridget was the dud of the group, always there, desperate to be liked and she’s done it thinking it’d get her in with them for real. She’s someone who’s desperate to be a main character instead of a background extra. She’s totally “sidewalk woman number 6” energy.
the police did such a horrible job at handling this case and it frustrates me so much it’s so clear that there was foul play involved and NOT an ACCIDENT !
They helped cover the case
That’s because they didn’t do their job at all.
What? Even Bailey thinks it was an accident, just a different accident. 😂
@@LeneeLenee tatie Bailey est une Arménienne 😊
@@LeneeLeneeYou dont think covering up a death isn't foul play? Yikes.
I’m so happy I found you on here! And that you talked about this! It happened the day after my birthday and I just don’t understand how none of them saw anything and that her body seemed to be thrown over the ledge.
Thank you for helping shed light on Tam’s story. She deserves the truth to be known and you’re helping to bring justice!
The moment you said, “Forsyth County” I already knew. One thing for certain, I would NEVER go to a sundown town. Ever.
*ETA:* A sundown town is an all-White town, neighborhood, or community that was intentionally created by systematically keeping ethnic minorities, (primarily Black people) out of their town through the use of discriminatory laws, harassment and threats or use of violence. Do they still exist? Yes, there are some that do. The signs saying “No _________ Allowed” may be gone but the racism and judgement are still prevalent.
I'm glad to know that. I just moved to GA and Forsyth isn't that far away from me now. I'm glad to keep that in mind as I'm getting into the area lol
I replied up top but I'll reply here too...Sundown towns are TERRIFYING
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Don't know much about Georgia but i do know not being welcome. Not trying to be insensitive towards Tamala but they was being rude so both me and my tequila would've went home. I don't go anywhere i'm not wanted. The minute they would've start being rude would've been the minute i went home.
EVER
Why didn't perfect friend Bridget offer to ask hubby to drop Tam off at home? 51:00
I thought the same thing!
Right!!!
Because she wasnt a true friend obviously!
No one was here. @@lailaeunice
Tam was already dead 😢
What a sad story. Her husband and boys never knowing what happened and people just get to go on about their lives.
Bailey, I love your vids!
IVE BEEN WAITING YEARS FOR THIS VIDEO!! Thanks for covering it 😊
This department needs to sued for negligence, everyone needs to be held responsible this needs more attention
The homeowner for sure should be sued and the insurance would go to her boys 😢
Police do not and are not allowed to pronounce death. Only doctors or coroners can make a legal pronouncement of death. A police officer can not pronounce someone dead unless they are decapitated, decomposing, or burned. EMS or a coroner HAS to come to the scene to pronounce someone dead. That alone has my hackles up, big time. I will be signing that petition. This is totally asinine.
Some counties do not have like licensed/qualified coroners (I think), the sheriff elects a buddy. Coroners also don’t need to be licensed physicians.
@TheJoannalicious In that case then EMS would need to pronounce death at the scene. And I know not all coroners are licensed physicians but they can pronounce death. Unlike police.
I was thinking this too. In Nashville, the district chief for the fire department goes even if the caller indicated for sure death. And the caller has to say specific things or the engine and ambulance still go. This story is crazy.
Bridgett sound a little guilty!!
As a fire fighter paramedic I was surprised to hear that part too. We can pronounce as a CCT medic, but I haven’t seen many counties that can pronounce as a cop. Especially without EMS on scene.
Thank you Bailey for how well you handled this story with sensitivity 🙏🏽
Just finished signing up and donating to her cause.
Justice for miss Tamla✊🏽🙏🏽❤
Public notice: The instinct when you see someone fall or laying on their front is to flip them over, but unless they are poisoned, in immediate danger, or lying in liquid, DO NOT turn them over! If they have fallen this can PERMANENTLY damage their back and/or nerves. *Obviously* check for a pulse and breath, talk to them, but unless a first responder tells you, DO NOT roll the person over!
I remember my mom really pressing upon me the importance of never moving someone who'd been severely injured.
💯% true I learned that when I did my CPR training
This is true if there's an injury in the spinal cord and you move the person, this may lead to paraplegia or quadriplegia
True! But definitely not the case here. Sadly these people didn’t want to help her:( rip
Thank you! I was thinking this the whole time. I understand the instinct to flip them, and even the expectation, but as a trained EMT, the risk of traumatic spinal injury would absolutely make me hesitate.
They killed her there is no question about it. The call on the phone about her lying in the yard and how CALM they were was a HUGE RED FLAG.
Thanks for bringing up the background because I've watched other documentaries where they did not at all. And it played a part.
Your character and sense of humour is wonderful- thank you for your work ❤
Bailey, thank you for highlighting this story. When the news broke about Tam’s passing I remember having a suspicious feeling that no one would be arrested, no one would provide the family with closure by telling the truth, and that her life was disposable. Thank you for spreading her story and trying to help her get justice. The emergency services definitely failed this woman, who was a mother, wife, friend, and she needs justice.
Bailey your suspicions are the most accurate. Xanax girl definitely had something to do with it. She was talking too much! Tamla had no reason to walk that woman to the door and sure as heck would not have kissed her on the cheek!?! That woman was giving too many “details”. The “aunt” probably heard the commotion since she was downstairs. So she had to keep changing her story. The boyfriend definitely helped Bridgette move her body. This is so sad and I pray she gets the justice she deserves!
I think it’s common that when people lie they build a big story with excessive details/very very small details. She’s definitely a liar !
This case is a prime example of why you should never mix pills and alcohol! Especially Xanax which is a benzodiazepine this kind of medication greatly intensifies the effects of alcohol. I 100% believe Bridgette would have known that and that she was sharing her meds with everyone at that party. Such a sad case 😢 rip Tamla. I hope her family is doing okay.
There was literally a picture of Tam on top of her on the couch. Seemed pretty close to me.
Hahaha when bailey showed Bridget and her interview I was like - "wait, what? This is the bish that she said tamla walked to the door and hugged?! NO WAY we're those 2 great friends. I must have heard wrong" so I rewound the video and realized - oh yeah, duh 🤦that bish is lying🤣
Yep, bridget the xanax queen is lying and it's so obvious it makes me feel embarrassed for her. People who tell the truth dont give this much convoluted detail and offer so many unrelated confusing bits of info like this. Also giving away some kind of guilt by trying to add in info from after she left. If she wasnt there but shes discussing what happened after she left she was either there at the time or she discussed it with others, as Bailey mentioned she said she spoke to Jose. Police should have been better at guiding the conversation because time is also limited in these situations.
What a heartbreaking story. Thank you for sharing. I like how long this one is. I love your intro and outro they are so comforting!
I've watched you for 2 years. This was great! Loved your theory. You're so intelligent
Bailey, you did more investigating on this case than the actual police
Smh
I saw the thumbnail and my heart drops everytime when I see the photo of the girls together at the slumberparty like that, with Tamal, the only POC woman, being the only one who got hurt/die. It’s heartbreaking.
I use to be so mad as a kid that my parents were so over protective. Especially when my parents never let me sleep over at my friends’ house and of course I was the only one who couldn’t go, but now that I’m older, I’m so thankful for it
Yes 😢
This is so sad!! I want for all to be safe when at a slumberparty, this is why Sundown towns are terrifying...
😢this case has been on my mind for years. Going to check out the petition.
@AdamIshak01
Only one in pajamas too, right?
@@flowersofantimony I also just learned what a sundown town was a week ago too. I didn’t know that concept or place still existed!
Signed petition and shared I hope the family gets the answers and peace they deserve 🙏🏻
What a sad story. I seriously hope it gets looked into further. Something nefarious definitely went on that night.
And BTW!!!...I personally LOOOVVVVE when you do all the 'voices' when you are talking!!!
I can lean back with my headphones on and close my eyes...and it's like I'm watching a movie in my mind with all the different characters! Lol! PLEASE keep doing them!!❤❤❤
This was a really sad story, those women weren’t her friends.
as someone who grew up in forsyth county, thank you for spreading this story. it infuriates how much it has been suppressed by my community and our disgusting history tells you all you need to know
The history is not disgusting
I grew up here too! I had no idea about any of this, and I'm so ashamed of my hometown.
@@LeneeLeneehow is it not? There have been black hangings! For you to say that’s not disgusting is very telling
@@marikarosenboom6871 Many people of many races were hung back in the day.
@@LeneeLenee You saying the history isn't disgusting makes you as disgusting as the history. 😊
THANK YOU for finally doing this case justice girl. Horrific.
I am so happy you did this one cause I know I've commented on other videos in the past that I would love to hear your opinion on this one. This one keeps me up at night.
I'm a reserve detention officer, and I can tell you that dispatch and police officers (including detention officers) know each other. They're typically friends within a coworker setting. So I wouldn't doubt they're looking out for each other in a corrupt setting.
right in a town that small...i have law enforcement in my family ..and they know everybodyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
@@cjar1981never trust law enforcement.
I will NEVER forget this story. It truly sickened me. The amount of evidence and stories that dont add up is crazy!!
Same! Five little boys have no mother and a husband lost his wife...and nobody pays? This was NO accident!
100% agree!
I really enjoy listening to you. Its obvious you care. Thanks for shining a light on true crime with your own twist! Im a fan girl. ❤
This case is my Roman Empire.
From the perspective of someone who was the token BIPOC for several years of my life, Tamila was a victim from the moment she stepped foot in that county and began to make "friends." None of them actually cared about her. It was always about what Tamila could do for them and what benefits they received from their friendship with her. There have been several moments in my life where I could have been Tamila.
It is my personal experience that makes me believe that what happened to Tamila was not an accident. True friends don't make fun of you for your ethnicity. True friends don't leave you alone in their house without making sure that you're okay and settled. True friends don't leave you to die face down in their yard. True friends call an ambulance for you if you accidentally trip and fall down their steps.
I have strong thoughts on this case ! Let’s say there had been a house full of black women and only 1 white woman and this white woman ends up dead in the backyard,EVERYONE would’ve lost their minds !! I think the owner of the house was jealous of Tamla because her boyfriend was flirting with her in the kitchen and her and her mean girls friends pushed her off the balcony while she was outside smoking !!!
Facts!!!
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So true!
I think the same about jealousy. Or she was so affected by the alcohol and Xanax she thought she was at home and walked into their bedroom and got in their bed then they all threw her off but idk. It’s defo strange.
🎤 drop! You nailed it!
the first red flag for me was her announcing she doesn’t like tequila like girl just take the gift n shut up
That was code for I don't like black people showing her dislikes for her being there.
It's absolutely ok to say no to a certain kind of alcohol. It's actually a red flag to not accept this. However, there's absolutely no need to be so rude about it.
Exactly just say thank you. Announcing it to a group is mean. You could mention it privately, no harm in letting friends know your tastes as long as you do it kindly. This was not that
Oh my goodness exactly why feel the need to make someone feel any type of way especially as a host to your guest!! Yuck 🤢 can’t stand people like that!! Just say thank you 😊 it’s that simple geez 🙄
It was definitely "mean girl" behavior
Thank you so much for covering this story!!!💗
Thank you for this story. 😢Excellent job...
This episode is longer than a CVS receipt and I am SO here for it 🍿
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Me too, I got snacks and I'm prepared to watch this
Lol watched this while on line at CVS😂
lol cvs receipt lololol 😂
loved that you took your time at the beginning of your vid to talk about racism, love to see creators use their platforms to raise awareness on these matters.
First time watching your channel, I truly enjoyed it. Great commentary. ❤
I’ve followed this case for yearssss, and it infuriates me EVERY SINGLE TIME!
Here's my theory: the other women were already being awful to Tam & made her the outsider, so when she wanted to stay up Jean got annoyed & got some Xanax from Bridgette & they spiked Tam's drink. They might have even spiked her drink earlier & that's why someone was always with her when she went outside. All the substances didn't interact well & Tam felt weird, so she went outside. She'd said a few times she wanted to go home but they couldn't let her in case her husband realised what had happened. When Tam was on the balcony that last time she realised someone had spiked her drink, she accused either Jean or Bridgette (probably Jean) & they got angry & panicked when Tam stated she was going to leave. There was an altercation & they pushed Tam & she fell down the stairs. Everyone involved is freaking out & Jean gets José to help cover things up. When Bridgette's husband turns up they tell her to go so she doesn't raise suspicion. José takes charge & directs Jean (& anyone else involved) to help him but they're panicking so they keep leaving doors open. Jean makes the call in the morning but is freaking out & so passes the phone to José.
It makes more sense to me that Jean was involved somehow because José wouldn't risk his job for a friend of his girlfriend. However if the woman he's living with is involved then he's going to help her. Aside from love as a motivation, it's her house. If she's in jail & he didn't help stop her going there, then he's not going to be living in that nice big house any more. He'll lose his girlfriend & his home.
I believe that. The combo of xanex and alcohol probably killed her. Then they covered it up.
Yep your theory makes sense. They didn't care about her. I don't think they intentionally killed her but they were being suspicious and 1000% covered up evidence and are lying
I think this is a solid theory!
That’s exactly what I’m thinking happened.
Georgia resident here. I'm also black. It's an open secret not to get caught outside if the metro area because once you leave, you're considered "fair game"...even in 2024. We still have sun down towns for example. Going on a road trip? Be careful where you stop for gas and DO NOT draw attention to yourself.
I'm so sorry
That's so scary I'm so sorry :(
I live in Missouri and unfortunately in my highschool town my mom brought in a black lady that stopped at the gas station across from us after dark. My mom was terrified something bad would happen to her so she slept on our couch.
This is so sad I’m sorry
My sister lived in Georgia for a bit. She told me she would love for me and my partner to come visit (he's black) but that she wouldn't feel comfortable for us to go out without them. We never went of course.
I love bailey's efforts to explain everything and draw the information literally. 😅
Have watched you on FB for years!
Just subscribed here on UA-cam.
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Does anyone else find it super sus that she took a SS of her notifications, but not of the actual app with all the info on it? And even more sus that the police didn't clock that as suspicious?
How does she get to send a screenshot but victims of grape get their phones taken and privacy completely invaded…
Everything is sus about how they handled it
There's ALOT the police didn't clock in this case. Gives a black and blue shadow to all the men in true blue that give their all to protect and serve.
Are we gonna talk about how great of a detective Bailey would be !!!!!!
This story was done by another podcaster 2 years ago. She is popular like her.
I couldn't agree more! She's fantastic 😍
i’ve signed the petition and shared it on my facebook page. i also put a link for this video in the comments of my post so that people can get educated on this case. i hope the family can finally get some peace and justice one day.
Love how the theme song is making a small come back ❤
The method acting in this episode is on a different level! Bailey can't get enough of the southern accent
as someone who grew up around that county and now lives very close, i believer they are 100% covering something up, the connections within that county is insane. that county has the worst energy you can feel it as soon as your inbounds
Please if you don’t mind and get the time to sign can you call up their sheriffs office I was SO happy with all the calls people were doing at the time when this broke the news I think even email is better as people were both showing and audio recording the interactions this might be why there is a chance of re-investigation and I live in England else I would myself
Reminds me of a place here in Texas called Vidor. 😡
Houston county native- the corruption is real.
I really hope Tam's case is solved. I would love if you could go back and update us on other cases like this that you've done over the years. Hopefully this family recieves closure! ANother great video
thank you so much for giving this story the justice is deserves. This is horrible and I really hope someone comes forward. The family deserves closure.
As adults we should know when someone doesn't like u. Please don't try to fit in where you aren't wanted. This was adult bullying gone completely wrong So sad.
As a black woman, she shouldn’t have been trying to fit with anybody in that town in the first place. I remember Oprah went there for here show, like back in the early 90’s. They said exactly who, and what they were to Oprah, knowing it was going to be broadcast on TV to the world. And they were proud of themselves. Absolutely no shame.
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💯agree!
This is the most thorough exploration I’ve heard of this case.
I’ve been hoping you’d cover it.
It’s so obvious what happened here.
RIP Tamla.
Edited- petition signed.
Very obvious as are the reasons. Would had never went to that party. If it dont look right, im out of sight.
I love the accent impression 😂 love you Bailey! You are so real girl😘 and beautiful before and after you put on your amazing makeup ❤
Immediately…. Yes!! I love seeing the product link with price right as you’re using it. Thank you!