Tamla Horsford didn’t jump off a balcony & Kendrick Johnson didn’t roll himself up in a gym mat. Thank you for using your platform to get these (otherwise brushed over) stories out!
It's so sickening how these cases are just completely brushed off. Crimes against Black and Native people are so purposely overlooked and it's disgusting, anyone who says otherwise is turning a blind eye. So many crimes that need to be truly looked into. It's heartbreaking.
I personally love that you aren’t afraid to call out racism and the harm it causes. I also love that you applied the historical context because that does matter.
@@kayleytwenter They are victim blaming but why would you willingly go to an all-white racist city? Also, while Tamla was at the party, the other women were being weird to her. She chose to ignore these signs and paid the ultimate price.
@@LOSTGPSif it was me, I wouldn’t have went. If I absolutely had to go, I would have left when they talked about my tequila. But for Tamla, she was trying to fit in and make friends. She might have thought they were just teasing her. I mean any reasonable person would think that if they didn’t like her they wouldn’t have invited her. From what I’ve heard (from other covers of this case) is that Jean was friendly towards her before inviting her to the party.
I lived in forsyth county for almost 20 years and was living there when this occurred. I absolutely LOVE your description of the type of women that were involved in this terrible situation. That is THE Forsyth County woman/ball park mom. The type that puts liquor in their Togo cup to the ball field or even has a rolling bar cart in the back of their $80,000 SUV. I used to serve these types at a restaurant and I believe 100% the type of ignorance and stupidity involved in this. I truly do hope that her family gets answers and that justice is served in this case.
Prior EMT here, police can’t call us off unless the patient requests us to be canceled or the patient leaves the scene. We have to show up and release the body to a coroner. Police don’t do that (at least here in MS), we do. The police will secure the scene and get EMS workers info if there’s a possibility of foul play. Muscles usually don’t stiffen, to the point they described, until 12-24 hours. That alone should be considered strange. This case was a disgrace. This poor woman and her loved ones deserve answers and justice. As a fellow Southerner and first responder, I’m appalled by the care she received.
I am a death investigator and there's times I am called to scene and EMS was cancelled because of signs of an "obvious death." This would be decomposition, or obvious rigor. It's rare they call them off, but it does happen. I pronounce when I arrive. If Tam died around 0130, at 0830, rigor should've at the most been partially starting to develop (depending on outside temp). EMS should not have been called off in this case, so sad!
Reading your comment impacted me so much because it's just so heartbreaking to see a mother of 5 go like that. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I do hope that one day this gets resolved
@@MidwestMom As long as you’re called, I understand EMS being called off. Sadly, it doesn’t seem like that’s what happened. I agree that EMS should’ve been called too. I’ve worked one death during summer with someone who was dead for 4 plus weeks. Police could smell them from the street and called us asap. It was a rural area and the patient was elderly and lived alone. They knew it was unlikely there was foul play but we were still called. If we were called for that, this poor woman should’ve definitely had EMS.
The fact that NO ONE turned her over, tried to give CPR, touched her to see if she even was alive SHOWS they never cared for her before she ever even entered the house. So sad
They did touch her. They touched her leg and said she was stiff. That means she had been dead for hours and she looked like a dead body. Most people are scared to touch a dead person.
@@OfficiallySusanYeah, most people are reluctant to touch a dead body; however, if you don’t know if the person is dead you would check. You would especially check if that person is your friend no matter if they seem to be extra still or you’re grossed out by dead bodies 😢
@@OfficiallySusanyeah a dead person not somebody they don’t even know is dead or not her body would take HOURS to stiffen that means they didn’t mind being around a dead body for HOURS
@@kadyn_nash4522 I can time stamp from the transcript of you need it! Sorry I thought I replied this already honestly I just really resonated in the moment when she said it, I had no idea so many other people would feel the same ❤️🌍
@@merlin2946My thoughts: black women are often stigmatized as being bitter and having bad attitudes. She’s in a group of white women who she doesn’t seem to know that well; maybe she didn’t want to make a bad impression. I’m thinking even if she felt hurt by their comments about her gift, she probably tried to laugh it off and stick the evening out as to not come off as being dramatic and emotional.
Its so sad that her kids will always be triggered by slumber parties knowing thats how their mother never came back.😢 The body language is interesting in all the photos nobody is connecting with her they all have avoidant positions.
@@VanessaElizabeta a lot of black people from the Gen X and Boomer generation, were taught to do the most to make white people feel comfortable: “Make sure you smile” etc etc.
As a retired police officer, I am disgusted by these officer's actions or lack of actions. They should all be fired. You can clearly see no real investigation was done on this case. Shameful!!!
Detectives only solve crime on overtime. No, but seriously. You'd be appalled at how LITTLE police work a lot of detective bureaus do. They're usually vested positions that someone gets into and can retire at...thus, they have no urgency or accountability to actually close cases. At least this is the case at my local PD 🤷🏽♀️
Well she probably has a entire team of people that help her research these things. It's also what she does for a living. Probably dedicates a lot time to all her videos
Strange how Jeanne said she didn’t want to stay up because she had to be up by 5:30am but proceeds to “sleep in” until she is “woken up” by her aunt at almost 9am…..
@@hannabanana592 I’m just curious what prior commitment she had at 5:30am. Like was she able to just move it around? And if so then someone would be able to confirm that she was up way earlier than 9am. Hypothetically if she was drinking she had no issue going to that prior commitment hungover but something more compelling would’ve had to make her cancel.
Your theory is EXACTLY What happened, like it’s PERFECT. I think he played on the door sensors for the story, to make it seem like she was going in and out throughout the night
Je pense que cette femme Jeanne ne dit pas toute la vérité c'est une menteuse manipulatrice elle a invitée cette pauvre femme tamla chez elle pour sa fête d'anniversaire pour en suite la tuée c'est une tragédie tamla ne c'etait pas jetée du balcon comme elle avait dit aux flics en faite elle avait tuée à l'aide de son coplis elle a maquillée le meurtre par un accident c'est vraiment répugnant le racism aux États-Unis 😢😔
Bridgett tipped out early like she didn’t want to get messy- but she wore the Dunkin’ Donuts mask. Best cover-up ever. If you know, you know.” Flaunting their monstrous inhumanity! Gross!
5 boys, a stepdaughter, a husband, a family, and friends. They all must miss her dearly, and I hope they don't feel guilty. She was the kindness we need more of in this world, and these heartless monsters whether intentionally or by accident, left her to die. I hope she and her loved ones are resting peacefully. 🕊️
Many people can't live with the guilt of these secrets. Hopefully someone slips or they feel the pressure to reveal the truth. Hoping for justice for Tam.
Idk… some folks have NO CONSCIOUS AT ALL…. Will go to their grave with the terrible secret🤷♀️… a falling out between guilty parties usually reveals stuff like this when someone gets mad enough to tell..
Do you think if enough people throw a fit and contact the FBI and do all kinds of stuff like that and make a whole s*** show out of it that they might get something done?
Great case to cover, so many unanswered questions. Your theory is legit the best I've heard! I love when cases like this have been chosen to be spotlighted because the loved ones and the victim deserve answers/justice and that only happens if more people are aware of the information. Great work Bailey! 🖤
The second was “the female Bob Marley”, the third was the “hurry up get off the phone” with her husband and sons. Yeah. Those 3 chances called for an immediate self dismissal
Bailey! It’s crazy how you say you’re just a “random person on the Internet”, but your theory makes so much more sense than anything the police came up with. Thank you for the amazing work you do in bringing awareness to these cases!
What she says makes a lot of sense and connects a lot of dots. The one thing I think differently though is about how the Xanax got into her system. I think they roofied her. That would explain why she was effected by the alcohol so much more than usual and the overly affectionate behavior towards the women around her. Any grown woman who makes a point to not take medications certainly is not going to willingly do so with alcohol in their system.
100% but the only part that doesn't add up is why José placed her so perfectly.. he's law enforcement, he'd surely know to leave her body more accidental looking, right?
@@JP-iz9cz José wasn't exactly law enforcement in the sense that we all assume. He was a pre-trial release services officer, which is similar to a probation officer. They handle people who are pending trial basically. So I don't think he would know much more than like you or I about staging a crime scene.
@JP-iz9cz her feet being together with toes pointed to the house tell me that she was dragged into that position. If you think of someone pulling you by the arms, your legs will fall into that exact position
Petition signed! This is so very sad. I hope they reopen this with an agency outside of their district. There is most definitely something going on here. It boggles my mind and makes me so sad, that we still have so much cruelness in the world. Thank you Bailey for continue to educate us and spreading the word. I’m sure a lot of us would have no idea what is going on out there. Thank you!
The level of rude in regards to the gift- I’m so sad that her last human interaction was with this group. I wish she had called it a night and a cab😢😢😢
Yeah, that was really mean. Like even if you hate the gift someone gave you, you smile, take it from them graciously, set it down somewhere and say "thank you!".
Bailey, thank you for highlighting this story. When the news broke about Tam’s passing I remember having a suspicious feeling that no one would be arrested, no one would provide the family with closure by telling the truth, and that her life was disposable. Thank you for spreading her story and trying to help her get justice. The emergency services definitely failed this woman, who was a mother, wife, friend, and she needs justice.
Exactly what I came here to say! It is WILD that the cops would be like, "A screenshot that's easily edited, GREAT" let's not check the actual app or anything...
If Tam was my friend and I was there I would have been flipping out, screaming, and losing my mind. I could not be calm. Even if she wasn't my friend, how could you be so chill? That is a life! Lord how mercy. Thanks for sharing these stories. Like another person mentioned, you use this platform to bring to light these stories.
Georgia resident here, and so thankful that you covered this story Bailey!!!! I completely agree with your thoughts on the events of the evening. It’s the only thing that makes sense with her injury’s and positioning. Another Georgia case that needs to be re-investigated is the case of high school student Kendrick Johnson who was found dead rolled up in a gym mat. Investigators say he fell in head first. There is A LOT of evidence that says otherwise. Please look into this one.
Police do not and are not allowed to pronounce death. Only doctors or coroners can make a legal pronouncement of death. A police officer can not pronounce someone dead unless they are decapitated, decomposing, or burned. EMS or a coroner HAS to come to the scene to pronounce someone dead. That alone has my hackles up, big time. I will be signing that petition. This is totally asinine.
@TheJoannalicious In that case then EMS would need to pronounce death at the scene. And I know not all coroners are licensed physicians but they can pronounce death. Unlike police.
I was thinking this too. In Nashville, the district chief for the fire department goes even if the caller indicated for sure death. And the caller has to say specific things or the engine and ambulance still go. This story is crazy.
As a fire fighter paramedic I was surprised to hear that part too. We can pronounce as a CCT medic, but I haven’t seen many counties that can pronounce as a cop. Especially without EMS on scene.
I saw a Tiktok about this case & HAD to know more. Went down a rabbit hole & wound up on this video. This was my 1st time seeing your videos & all I have to say is WOW! I wish I'd found you sooner! I'm now binging all your other videos & I love your content SO MUCH!! You also remind me of Boze, who also does true crime stuff 😂 You're beautiful inside & out, don't change a thing, Bailey! 🥰💖
loved that you took your time at the beginning of your vid to talk about racism, love to see creators use their platforms to raise awareness on these matters.
the police did such a horrible job at handling this case and it frustrates me so much it’s so clear that there was foul play involved and NOT an ACCIDENT !
The moment you said, “Forsyth County” I already knew. One thing for certain, I would NEVER go to a sundown town. Ever. *ETA:* A sundown town is an all-White town, neighborhood, or community that was intentionally created by systematically keeping ethnic minorities, (primarily Black people) out of their town through the use of discriminatory laws, harassment and threats or use of violence. Do they still exist? Yes, there are some that do. The signs saying “No _________ Allowed” may be gone but the racism and judgement are still prevalent.
Don't know much about Georgia but i do know not being welcome. Not trying to be insensitive towards Tamala but they was being rude so both me and my tequila would've went home. I don't go anywhere i'm not wanted. The minute they would've start being rude would've been the minute i went home.
I live in Forsyth, GA, and I have never even heard of this story... This should have been EVERYWHERE. I'm so happy you did this story, Bailey. There is something beyond suspicious with this one. I hope Tamla's family is able to heal and find answers.
Sometimes I take a break from listening to true crime, but when I inevitably come back to your channel, I realize how much I miss your voice and personality. You’re the friend I always have fun with when we finally see each other again. ❤
738,007 signatures so far on the petition! Keep sharing, keep talking about Tamla’s story! This case needs to be reinvestigated!! Her kids and her family deserve the truth! 🫶🏽🫶🏽
I think it is also possible that the drugged her with Xanax as a "prank". They had bullied her before and I suspect she was the punching bag of the evening.
i wouldn't be surprised. And as someone who didn't take Xanax regularly like the other women, even if she did take it willingly;she may not have known about the interaction with alcohol. Whether an accident or on purpose, someone needs to be in jail. Five boys are without a mother.
I actually think Bridget was the dud of the group, always there, desperate to be liked and she’s done it thinking it’d get her in with them for real. She’s someone who’s desperate to be a main character instead of a background extra. She’s totally “sidewalk woman number 6” energy.
I really appreciate Bailey using her platform and her popolarity to reignite interest in case like this. I hope Tam’s family and friends will find justice one day!!
I'm a reserve detention officer, and I can tell you that dispatch and police officers (including detention officers) know each other. They're typically friends within a coworker setting. So I wouldn't doubt they're looking out for each other in a corrupt setting.
Public notice: The instinct when you see someone fall or laying on their front is to flip them over, but unless they are poisoned, in immediate danger, or lying in liquid, DO NOT turn them over! If they have fallen this can PERMANENTLY damage their back and/or nerves. *Obviously* check for a pulse and breath, talk to them, but unless a first responder tells you, DO NOT roll the person over!
Thank you! I was thinking this the whole time. I understand the instinct to flip them, and even the expectation, but as a trained EMT, the risk of traumatic spinal injury would absolutely make me hesitate.
The fact that you are acting out their voices has me weak, in no means is the situation funny but acting out their persona gives me such a better visual!
Bailey your suspicions are the most accurate. Xanax girl definitely had something to do with it. She was talking too much! Tamla had no reason to walk that woman to the door and sure as heck would not have kissed her on the cheek!?! That woman was giving too many “details”. The “aunt” probably heard the commotion since she was downstairs. So she had to keep changing her story. The boyfriend definitely helped Bridgette move her body. This is so sad and I pray she gets the justice she deserves!
This case is a prime example of why you should never mix pills and alcohol! Especially Xanax which is a benzodiazepine this kind of medication greatly intensifies the effects of alcohol. I 100% believe Bridgette would have known that and that she was sharing her meds with everyone at that party. Such a sad case 😢 rip Tamla. I hope her family is doing okay.
Hahaha when bailey showed Bridget and her interview I was like - "wait, what? This is the bish that she said tamla walked to the door and hugged?! NO WAY we're those 2 great friends. I must have heard wrong" so I rewound the video and realized - oh yeah, duh 🤦that bish is lying🤣
Yep, bridget the xanax queen is lying and it's so obvious it makes me feel embarrassed for her. People who tell the truth dont give this much convoluted detail and offer so many unrelated confusing bits of info like this. Also giving away some kind of guilt by trying to add in info from after she left. If she wasnt there but shes discussing what happened after she left she was either there at the time or she discussed it with others, as Bailey mentioned she said she spoke to Jose. Police should have been better at guiding the conversation because time is also limited in these situations.
MMMMDAYS DONT USUALLY MAKE ME CRY. The saddest, most heart wrenching fact about this case to me, is the jammies. Doesn't seem like a big deal, but I heard that and immediately thought of a woman getting to be a girl again, excited for a night with ladies to have fun with. Given her devoted motherhood, this was much more to Tam than some ladies bday party, making it all the more sad how she was treated throughout before a cruel fate.
I saw the thumbnail and my heart drops everytime when I see the photo of the girls together at the slumberparty like that, with Tamal, the only POC woman, being the only one who got hurt/die. It’s heartbreaking. I use to be so mad as a kid that my parents were so over protective. Especially when my parents never let me sleep over at my friends’ house and of course I was the only one who couldn’t go, but now that I’m older, I’m so thankful for it
This is the most thorough exploration I’ve heard of this case. I’ve been hoping you’d cover it. It’s so obvious what happened here. RIP Tamla. Edited- petition signed.
as someone who grew up in forsyth county, thank you for spreading this story. it infuriates how much it has been suppressed by my community and our disgusting history tells you all you need to know
Georgia resident here. I'm also black. It's an open secret not to get caught outside of the metro area because once you leave, you're considered "fair game"...even in 2024. We still have sun down towns for example. Going on a road trip? Be careful where you stop for gas, and DO NOT draw attention to yourself.
I live in Missouri and unfortunately in my highschool town my mom brought in a black lady that stopped at the gas station across from us after dark. My mom was terrified something bad would happen to her so she slept on our couch.
My sister lived in Georgia for a bit. She told me she would love for me and my partner to come visit (he's black) but that she wouldn't feel comfortable for us to go out without them. We never went of course.
Your theory on this actually had my heart racing! I could envision it happening in my mind and I can honestly believe how you explained it, makes the most sense. It fills in all the missing pieces in a realistic way. Love watching your videos ♥️
Upsets me you say you’re just a random person on the internet because genuinely you’re such an inspiration. You bring so much awareness and facts to true crime and at the end of the day this was somebody’s daughter somebody’s wife and somebody’s children and I KNOW you spreading some what the truth or awareness for this case brings them so much love x
Bailey don’t stop doing what your doing what your doing, your a blessing in disguise if it wasn’t for my niece I wouldn’t known half of the things I know now. Well I wouldn’t known the actual dark truth behind everything .! Thank you Bailey 🙏🏽 ❤ this story when it first came out made me mad that I couldn’t keep following up with the story made me not want to make friends just straight up scared, still am
Yes!! I never even thought of her falling down the stairs but the minute Bailey said that everything made sense. For real a lot of detectives could use Bailey. Just give her the information and then let her have a go. I bet we’d have a lot more solved cases and people charged that deserves it.
Here's my theory: the other women were already being awful to Tam & made her the outsider, so when she wanted to stay up Jean got annoyed & got some Xanax from Bridgette & they spiked Tam's drink. They might have even spiked her drink earlier & that's why someone was always with her when she went outside. All the substances didn't interact well & Tam felt weird, so she went outside. She'd said a few times she wanted to go home but they couldn't let her in case her husband realised what had happened. When Tam was on the balcony that last time she realised someone had spiked her drink, she accused either Jean or Bridgette (probably Jean) & they got angry & panicked when Tam stated she was going to leave. There was an altercation & they pushed Tam & she fell down the stairs. Everyone involved is freaking out & Jean gets José to help cover things up. When Bridgette's husband turns up they tell her to go so she doesn't raise suspicion. José takes charge & directs Jean (& anyone else involved) to help him but they're panicking so they keep leaving doors open. Jean makes the call in the morning but is freaking out & so passes the phone to José. It makes more sense to me that Jean was involved somehow because José wouldn't risk his job for a friend of his girlfriend. However if the woman he's living with is involved then he's going to help her. Aside from love as a motivation, it's her house. If she's in jail & he didn't help stop her going there, then he's not going to be living in that nice big house any more. He'll lose his girlfriend & his home.
Yep your theory makes sense. They didn't care about her. I don't think they intentionally killed her but they were being suspicious and 1000% covered up evidence and are lying
Lifting her leg up to check if she's dead reminds me of the time I found a dead mouse on my porch. I didn't want the mouse to bite me so I kept slightly tugging its leg. Tam was an animal to these people, not a friend.
I freaking love you, Bailey. I know doing these dark stories can weigh down one’s psyche and can get a bit heavy after a while, but I want to say thank you so much for what you do and the energy you put into it.
I just watched this episode again. This is a masterpiece in storytelling. TV networks and other crime podcasts don't compare. Bailey paints a clear picture of the characters and their motives. The historical context, the interplay with Jose's connections, Bridget, etc all play into the case. Bailey and her team are amazing and I hope this episode wins awards. I'm properly outraged for Tamla and her family.
as someone who grew up around that county and now lives very close, i believer they are 100% covering something up, the connections within that county is insane. that county has the worst energy you can feel it as soon as your inbounds
Please if you don’t mind and get the time to sign can you call up their sheriffs office I was SO happy with all the calls people were doing at the time when this broke the news I think even email is better as people were both showing and audio recording the interactions this might be why there is a chance of re-investigation and I live in England else I would myself
As adults we should know when someone doesn't like u. Please don't try to fit in where you aren't wanted. This was adult bullying gone completely wrong So sad.
As a black woman, she shouldn’t have been trying to fit with anybody in that town in the first place. I remember Oprah went there for here show, like back in the early 90’s. They said exactly who, and what they were to Oprah, knowing it was going to be broadcast on TV to the world. And they were proud of themselves. Absolutely no shame.
All of the microaggressions throughout the transcripts are so crazy!! I was triggered on this one! Keep bringing attention to things like this Miss Bailey.
Thank you so much for covering this case. I've heard so many different takes on what people think "really" happened, and your theory seems to make the most sense. During Bridget's interview, she started to say something about José and then quickly switched it to something else. She definitely has a guilty conscience, but like you said, she likes to talk. I believe one day, hopefully soon, she will break and tell someone. I hope for the sake of Tamlas husband and kids they reopen the case. On the one year anniversary of her death I saw an interview her husband did with activist Tamika Mallory, and he said the night of the party he didn't want her to go and they had an arguement about it, and how he will never forgive himself for making a big deal about it. My heart broke when he said that. Her family deserves justice.
They absolutely killed her. Either as a collective or one person killed her and they all banded together to cover it up. Im leaning more toward the former. Something happened in that house and everyone there that night knows exactly how she died.
@sbonelli Some of them left early. But the rest should have all been interrogated for hours at the station. Especially, the boyfriend and the homeowner lady.
Does anyone else find it super sus that she took a SS of her notifications, but not of the actual app with all the info on it? And even more sus that the police didn't clock that as suspicious?
Bailey you doing the accents & that impression of Bridget is the best part of this video 😂 I believe part of the reason you’re so successful as a UA-camr is because you’re actually HILARIOUS. I love you!!!
Exactly! Like all the scratches and bruises....probably hurt her more and forced the tequila and Zanax down her throat and 💯 guilt kept these friends making sure her poor face was down in the ground! Team up with Bones & NCIS!
I work in forensics at a police station and it’s very rare for people to NOT touch the body. They always look for a sign of life and are always very clear and upfront about touching them or if they moved them in any way (to do cpr or try to wake them up). This whole thing was handled so poorly
Bailey, you did a better job pointing out inconsistencies than the police and GBI. Thank you for covering this story. I hope that Tamela’s family will one day come to know what really happened.
Your theory makes so much sense! The stairs feel like the most plausible answer for the injuries. Maybe Jose purposefully kept the back door open when he was finished thinking it would look like Tam had left it open behind her before she "fell" off the balcony, setting the scene for an accident that happened while everyone else was asleep. Whatever happened that night it's terrible, and I don't believe for an instant there aren't people who were there that know exactly what happened.
Ok but if she fell down the stairs and died , then why not leave her there? Unless there was something obvious about it being foul play... I don't get why they would move her to the grass when the injuries wouldn't match
As far as the ambulance being called off, I have a family member who is an EMT and they said that a coroner deals with a body but EMS shows up to confirm the absence of heart activity. And that they don’t know anywhere police would cancel EMS unless there’s VERY OBVIOUS signs of death. Suspish to say the least. Also, mixing Xanax and alcohol is dangerous. And someone who is so reliant on them is typically warned of that. Mixing these can depress a person’s nervous system, making it hard for them to move and even causing them to not breathe. It’s dangerous.
Fr I was given xanax by a dr. and drank on it, not knowing they didn't mix. Which is crazy cause we rarely drink. (it was not clearly marked on the bottle and the dr. Never told me; this was before the whole opi0d awareness movement across the USA. My husband asked me never to take it again. He said it made me aggressive and verbally abusive. I agreed and never took it again, it freaked me out so badly to think I treated him like that and didn't remember it since I grew up with addict parents, it was scary. It's super easy to get addicted to it, too.
I agree. I'm an emt and we come confirm death with the cardiac monitor. Especially in an otherwise healthy young individual with an unknown cause. The only time police cancel us is when they are pretty much decomposing.
Your comment literally provided a reason for why they would've called off an ambulance and then said suspish. What? Make it make sense. There were obvious signs that she was dead.
@@-xxMelissaxx- I can see how that was confusing. Let me elaborate: “Obvious signs” would be decomposition, key parts of the body missing, extensive blood loss at the scene, more gore, etc. For this case, there was not any of that and as someone replied earlier, for a person who had no medical history to suggest a sudden death, and the fact that EMTs are needed to confirm death along with a coroner in most cases, it is suspicious. Tamla’s death had been within hours of being found, but the exact estimate of time was not made clear, even then, since it had been so recent to her being found, a coroner would be needed along with EMS to confirm death. Because there would not have been advanced decomp, or an extreme injury that would lead one to conclude she was dead. It wasn’t that type of crime scene.
My aunt literally went into a coma from mixing Xanax and alcohol so my first thought was Bridgette being a regular user would HAVE to be aware of dangerous mixing those are
I love how smug Bridget sounds during her interview- she probably left and told the others from the party “oh don’t worry, he loved me! He told me I was the most pleasant interview he had ever done” I charmed the pants off of him!
14:15 imagine someone's going on a trip and they buy the best of the best alcohol for you, like you CANNOT get better tequila than you can get in mexico straight from the source, and then when they gift it to you you announce how much you hate it. Absolutely vile
Wished you would have covered how the police treated the family afterwards. Hearing her husband's story of the police informing him of Tamla's death is rage-inducing.
I have strong thoughts on this case ! Let’s say there had been a house full of black women and only 1 white woman and this white woman ends up dead in the backyard,EVERYONE would’ve lost their minds !! I think the owner of the house was jealous of Tamla because her boyfriend was flirting with her in the kitchen and her and her mean girls friends pushed her off the balcony while she was outside smoking !!!
I think the same about jealousy. Or she was so affected by the alcohol and Xanax she thought she was at home and walked into their bedroom and got in their bed then they all threw her off but idk. It’s defo strange.
Thank you so much for talking about the history of Forsyth because the historical trauma definitely plays a part in how this case is/isnt being handled. I pray that Tamla and her family gets justice.
If theres a cop involved or suspects that have relationships with cops, a different district should definitely step in and investigate
This should definitely be a law
The county or state should have investigated.
Here in Canada they will call in police from another province or provincial/federal police. They always seem to get off though
Agreed
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Tamla Horsford didn’t jump off a balcony & Kendrick Johnson didn’t roll himself up in a gym mat. Thank you for using your platform to get these (otherwise brushed over) stories out!
Justice for Kj ❤️
I always think about their cases. It deeply unsettled me. ❤
i agree especially KJ .... that story enrages me
It's so sickening how these cases are just completely brushed off. Crimes against Black and Native people are so purposely overlooked and it's disgusting, anyone who says otherwise is turning a blind eye. So many crimes that need to be truly looked into. It's heartbreaking.
These cases need to be solved! Poor people need justice!
I personally love that you aren’t afraid to call out racism and the harm it causes.
I also love that you applied the historical context because that does matter.
This!!! She never misses in my book always spreading awareness I love it
Tamla is particularly to blamed… I wouldn’t go to a racist area with people I don’t know
@@LovetteKourtvictim blaming.
@@kayleytwenter They are victim blaming but why would you willingly go to an all-white racist city? Also, while Tamla was at the party, the other women were being weird to her. She chose to ignore these signs and paid the ultimate price.
@@LOSTGPSif it was me, I wouldn’t have went. If I absolutely had to go, I would have left when they talked about my tequila. But for Tamla, she was trying to fit in and make friends. She might have thought they were just teasing her. I mean any reasonable person would think that if they didn’t like her they wouldn’t have invited her. From what I’ve heard (from other covers of this case) is that Jean was friendly towards her before inviting her to the party.
I lived in forsyth county for almost 20 years and was living there when this occurred. I absolutely LOVE your description of the type of women that were involved in this terrible situation. That is THE Forsyth County woman/ball park mom. The type that puts liquor in their Togo cup to the ball field or even has a rolling bar cart in the back of their $80,000 SUV. I used to serve these types at a restaurant and I believe 100% the type of ignorance and stupidity involved in this. I truly do hope that her family gets answers and that justice is served in this case.
Prior EMT here, police can’t call us off unless the patient requests us to be canceled or the patient leaves the scene. We have to show up and release the body to a coroner. Police don’t do that (at least here in MS), we do. The police will secure the scene and get EMS workers info if there’s a possibility of foul play. Muscles usually don’t stiffen, to the point they described, until 12-24 hours. That alone should be considered strange.
This case was a disgrace. This poor woman and her loved ones deserve answers and justice. As a fellow Southerner and first responder, I’m appalled by the care she received.
Thank you! I was thinking the same thing. The police can't pronounce a death.
Thank you I found that information so weird I was wondering since when do police call time of death or even give an estimation.
I am a death investigator and there's times I am called to scene and EMS was cancelled because of signs of an "obvious death." This would be decomposition, or obvious rigor. It's rare they call them off, but it does happen. I pronounce when I arrive. If Tam died around 0130, at 0830, rigor should've at the most been partially starting to develop (depending on outside temp). EMS should not have been called off in this case, so sad!
Reading your comment impacted me so much because it's just so heartbreaking to see a mother of 5 go like that. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I do hope that one day this gets resolved
@@MidwestMom As long as you’re called, I understand EMS being called off. Sadly, it doesn’t seem like that’s what happened. I agree that EMS should’ve been called too. I’ve worked one death during summer with someone who was dead for 4 plus weeks. Police could smell them from the street and called us asap. It was a rural area and the patient was elderly and lived alone. They knew it was unlikely there was foul play but we were still called. If we were called for that, this poor woman should’ve definitely had EMS.
The fact that NO ONE turned her over, tried to give CPR, touched her to see if she even was alive SHOWS they never cared for her before she ever even entered the house. So sad
Or, more likely, they didn't because they already knew
Crazy to think no one ever thought of doing that, they didn’t care at all!!
They did touch her. They touched her leg and said she was stiff. That means she had been dead for hours and she looked like a dead body. Most people are scared to touch a dead person.
@@OfficiallySusanYeah, most people are reluctant to touch a dead body; however, if you don’t know if the person is dead you would check. You would especially check if that person is your friend no matter if they seem to be extra still or you’re grossed out by dead bodies 😢
@@OfficiallySusanyeah a dead person not somebody they don’t even know is dead or not her body would take HOURS to stiffen that means they didn’t mind being around a dead body for HOURS
Signed the petition to have her case reinvestigated, this is heartbreaking
I'm going to, too! 💔🙏🏻 Her poor family. It's terrible not knowing.
Signed the petition 🤞
Where is the petition?
just signed ❤
Signed!
So you’re telling me they solve cold case crimes after 30 years but they can’t solve this crime because two years have passed???
for reaaaaaaaal.
it’s ridiculous!!! they need to give her justice and hire someone from a different state.
Exactly!!!
But that’s with people having done their jobs originally. Ie boulder didn’t do their job hence JonBenet hasn’t been solved.
LOUDER
“Ignorance and racism doesn’t get washed away overnight” preach girl
Preach
where does she say this?
@@kadyn_nash4522 it was somewhere in the beginning I can look thru the transcript to find it tho
@@kadyn_nash4522within the first six minutes
@@kadyn_nash4522beginning when she introduced the location
@@kadyn_nash4522 I can time stamp from the transcript of you need it! Sorry I thought I replied this already honestly I just really resonated in the moment when she said it, I had no idea so many other people would feel the same ❤️🌍
Lesson from this case: when people treat you rudely, leave immediatelly. It will save your life.
Why anyone would want to be around people that treat you disgustingly is beyond me.
@@merlin2946My thoughts: black women are often stigmatized as being bitter and having bad attitudes. She’s in a group of white women who she doesn’t seem to know that well; maybe she didn’t want to make a bad impression. I’m thinking even if she felt hurt by their comments about her gift, she probably tried to laugh it off and stick the evening out as to not come off as being dramatic and emotional.
Its so sad that her kids will always be triggered by slumber parties knowing thats how their mother never came back.😢
The body language is interesting in all the photos nobody is connecting with her they all have avoidant positions.
@@VanessaElizabeta a lot of black people from the Gen X and Boomer generation, were taught to do the most to make white people feel comfortable: “Make sure you smile” etc etc.
@@ariesunicorn8225 Facts. Respectability politics.
Bailey doing more police work than the police. I think we can all agree this is very suspicious.
@melissamoonchild9216 Right?!! Investigator Sarian.
Literally! This!
It literally sounds like a cover up
You mean Bailey’s researchers bc she does not do her own research anymore herself sadly
Why oh why didn’t they let Bridget keep blabbing? Because they KNEW it wasn’t matching up!
The fact these woman had FIREBALL out but proceeded to say that real Mexican tequila was GROSS??? Make it make sense, for sure
Definitely a micro aggression
Right?
@@QUEENHELLENA12
Tbh black people die in accidents sometimes it’s not a conspiracy at all
@@alexiaswilliams3812 not liking a mexican drink is a microwagression? do u hear urself
@@caesarismisorder8295 oh gosh, you stink
As a retired police officer, I am disgusted by these officer's actions or lack of actions. They should all be fired. You can clearly see no real investigation was done on this case. Shameful!!!
This is very common way of treating cases that involve people of color here in GA, it’s so so sad
@user-zg9st8ox3mshe didn't say she was shocked
I know you should not go by optic but they look like white entitled brats who think they are better than everybody.
@user-zg9st8ox3mtake a day off, you’re picking a fight with the wrong person in this story 🙄
None, what-so-ever!
How is Bailey more passionate and a better detective than the actual detectives?
She should work for FBI!!!
She sees things as they are! She knows the history! She knows people and she's unbiased!
Detectives only solve crime on overtime. No, but seriously. You'd be appalled at how LITTLE police work a lot of detective bureaus do. They're usually vested positions that someone gets into and can retire at...thus, they have no urgency or accountability to actually close cases. At least this is the case at my local PD 🤷🏽♀️
Right!!
Well she probably has a entire team of people that help her research these things. It's also what she does for a living. Probably dedicates a lot time to all her videos
Strange how Jeanne said she didn’t want to stay up because she had to be up by 5:30am but proceeds to “sleep in” until she is “woken up” by her aunt at almost 9am…..
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Also why have a sleepover if you need to get up that early?
@@hannabanana592 I’m just curious what prior commitment she had at 5:30am. Like was she able to just move it around? And if so then someone would be able to confirm that she was up way earlier than 9am. Hypothetically if she was drinking she had no issue going to that prior commitment hungover but something more compelling would’ve had to make her cancel.
I thought the same exact thing! Nothing anyone says in this case is adding up.
im thinking she was stating it more like "i got up at 530, so im tired now." She probably had the next day off to where she didnt need to be up easly.
Your theory is EXACTLY What happened, like it’s PERFECT. I think he played on the door sensors for the story, to make it seem like she was going in and out throughout the night
Bridgett seems like the type of person to like to talk. One day she’ll talk
I'm still shocked that the investigators stopped the interview!!!!! She was their ticket to soooo much more. Loose lips on that one. What a shame.
@@rebeccaromano2434 They didn't want her to reveal the truth because they were covering up for their friends.
She will more likely squeal "they made me lie" and it will be pointed back at Josè
Je pense que cette femme Jeanne ne dit pas toute la vérité c'est une menteuse manipulatrice elle a invitée cette pauvre femme tamla chez elle pour sa fête d'anniversaire pour en suite la tuée c'est une tragédie tamla ne c'etait pas jetée du balcon comme elle avait dit aux flics en faite elle avait tuée à l'aide de son coplis elle a maquillée le meurtre par un accident c'est vraiment répugnant le racism aux États-Unis 😢😔
Bridgett tipped out early like she didn’t want to get messy- but she wore the Dunkin’ Donuts mask. Best cover-up ever. If you know, you know.” Flaunting their monstrous inhumanity! Gross!
Her poor kids. 5 boys without their mama. 😢 so sad.
Heart breaks for those boys 😢
A 4 year old! Smh and all she wanted was some me time/time out with the girls
That's what I keep thinking about. 💔
5 boys, a stepdaughter, a husband, a family, and friends. They all must miss her dearly, and I hope they don't feel guilty. She was the kindness we need more of in this world, and these heartless monsters whether intentionally or by accident, left her to die. I hope she and her loved ones are resting peacefully. 🕊️
Many people can't live with the guilt of these secrets. Hopefully someone slips or they feel the pressure to reveal the truth. Hoping for justice for Tam.
Happy Monday,my bad ,It's Sunday now. Oops😅
I think we will get a confession within our lifetime but no one will go to jail.
Idk… some folks have NO CONSCIOUS AT ALL…. Will go to their grave with the terrible secret🤷♀️… a falling out between guilty parties usually reveals stuff like this when someone gets mad enough to tell..
@@christy3d you are so right
Do you think if enough people throw a fit and contact the FBI and do all kinds of stuff like that and make a whole s*** show out of it that they might get something done?
Bailey , you truly turned your passion into something so incredible. You are a voice for the voiceless. Just signed the petition.
This case does not get enough attention. Her “friends” absolutely killed her.
Edited to add: Petition signed!
The whole thing was a set up and premeditated I think.
Yes !! These women remind me of Regina George and her minion’s but in their 40’s !! Ridiculous !!
Great case to cover, so many unanswered questions. Your theory is legit the best I've heard! I love when cases like this have been chosen to be spotlighted because the loved ones and the victim deserve answers/justice and that only happens if more people are aware of the information. Great work Bailey! 🖤
Same, signed and shared on my socials
@@Solènelamigonnelicorneu are SO strange!U do this to Annie Elise as well.Callin them mommy and auntie. So weird
That tequila stunt should’ve been the red flag to mf leave. I hate this happened to her.
Ugh, I thought the same thing :(
The second was “the female Bob Marley”, the third was the “hurry up get off the phone” with her husband and sons. Yeah. Those 3 chances called for an immediate self dismissal
This was craziness for real smh
@@maatirah6530I wonder if her intuition kicked in and felt off but she dismissed it
A married woman has no business sleeping over anyone's house. Specially where there is alcohol involved. It never ends well.
Bailey! It’s crazy how you say you’re just a “random person on the Internet”, but your theory makes so much more sense than anything the police came up with. Thank you for the amazing work you do in bringing awareness to these cases!
FACTS!!
What she says makes a lot of sense and connects a lot of dots. The one thing I think differently though is about how the Xanax got into her system. I think they roofied her. That would explain why she was effected by the alcohol so much more than usual and the overly affectionate behavior towards the women around her.
Any grown woman who makes a point to not take medications certainly is not going to willingly do so with alcohol in their system.
100% but the only part that doesn't add up is why José placed her so perfectly.. he's law enforcement, he'd surely know to leave her body more accidental looking, right?
@@JP-iz9cz José wasn't exactly law enforcement in the sense that we all assume. He was a pre-trial release services officer, which is similar to a probation officer. They handle people who are pending trial basically.
So I don't think he would know much more than like you or I about staging a crime scene.
@JP-iz9cz her feet being together with toes pointed to the house tell me that she was dragged into that position. If you think of someone pulling you by the arms, your legs will fall into that exact position
Petition signed! This is so very sad. I hope they reopen this with an agency outside of their district. There is most definitely something going on here. It boggles my mind and makes me so sad, that we still have so much cruelness in the world. Thank you Bailey for continue to educate us and spreading the word. I’m sure a lot of us would have no idea what is going on out there. Thank you!
The level of rude in regards to the gift- I’m so sad that her last human interaction was with this group. I wish she had called it a night and a cab😢😢😢
What was the gift? I missed that part.
@@JessyLee-1 a bottle of Tequila that Tam brought back from a trip to Mexico.
Great point cat. That says it all. They sounded like they had disdain.
Yeah, that was really mean. Like even if you hate the gift someone gave you, you smile, take it from them graciously, set it down somewhere and say "thank you!".
This group peaked in high school. Major mean girl vibes with jeane as the queen bee and others mimic her regardless of how rude it is. 😢
Jose and Bridget for SURE are freaking tf out right now after this video came out😂😂😂😂
Bailey, thank you for highlighting this story. When the news broke about Tam’s passing I remember having a suspicious feeling that no one would be arrested, no one would provide the family with closure by telling the truth, and that her life was disposable. Thank you for spreading her story and trying to help her get justice. The emergency services definitely failed this woman, who was a mother, wife, friend, and she needs justice.
I’m so happy she’s finally talking about this case, I asked her 4 years ago. This story is so sad, praying for her family.
How they settled for the screenshot of the door notifications is wild… you can delete specific and singular notifications…
Thank you! I believe she definitely swiped and deleted some of those notifications.
In Karen Reads case, going on now... the ATF witness submitted screenshot, then destroyed his phone. It's crazy!
Exactly what I came here to say! It is WILD that the cops would be like, "A screenshot that's easily edited, GREAT" let's not check the actual app or anything...
Your theory at the end of the video makes a lot of sense. Can you do Kendrick Johnson’s case ?
This!
Jose and Bridgette SWEATING wondering how Bailey knows
I thought this too! They’re out there somewhere watching this video panicking all over again because the truth is out there now!
Hahaha for real 🤣💀
No fr !! Bailey’s theory makes SOOOO much sense . This case was definitely mishandled . SMH
She totally nailed this! It all makes sense
@@beckoninglight16 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO SIGN THE PETITION!!!
Signed it! None of it makes sense and needs to be reopened.
(ﾉ´ヮ´)ﾉ*: ･ﾟyes !
Yes!!!
💯
Absolutely
@@lizardwhispererfivehead3552yup
If Tam was my friend and I was there I would have been flipping out, screaming, and losing my mind. I could not be calm. Even if she wasn't my friend, how could you be so chill? That is a life! Lord how mercy. Thanks for sharing these stories. Like another person mentioned, you use this platform to bring to light these stories.
I will NEVER forget this story. It truly sickened me. The amount of evidence and stories that dont add up is crazy!!
Same! Five little boys have no mother and a husband lost his wife...and nobody pays? This was NO accident!
100% agree!
Georgia resident here, and so thankful that you covered this story Bailey!!!! I completely agree with your thoughts on the events of the evening. It’s the only thing that makes sense with her injury’s and positioning.
Another Georgia case that needs to be re-investigated is the case of high school student Kendrick Johnson who was found dead rolled up in a gym mat. Investigators say he fell in head first. There is A LOT of evidence that says otherwise. Please look into this one.
Agreed !!
i’m pretty sure she covered this case! probably like two years ago or so but i think i remember watching it
Some of his organs were missing!!
YES!! I wonder if the fbi can get involved and reopen cases & do internal investigarions into the cops. 👀
Yes! This case needs to be reopened!!!!
Police do not and are not allowed to pronounce death. Only doctors or coroners can make a legal pronouncement of death. A police officer can not pronounce someone dead unless they are decapitated, decomposing, or burned. EMS or a coroner HAS to come to the scene to pronounce someone dead. That alone has my hackles up, big time. I will be signing that petition. This is totally asinine.
Some counties do not have like licensed/qualified coroners (I think), the sheriff elects a buddy. Coroners also don’t need to be licensed physicians.
@TheJoannalicious In that case then EMS would need to pronounce death at the scene. And I know not all coroners are licensed physicians but they can pronounce death. Unlike police.
I was thinking this too. In Nashville, the district chief for the fire department goes even if the caller indicated for sure death. And the caller has to say specific things or the engine and ambulance still go. This story is crazy.
Bridgett sound a little guilty!!
As a fire fighter paramedic I was surprised to hear that part too. We can pronounce as a CCT medic, but I haven’t seen many counties that can pronounce as a cop. Especially without EMS on scene.
I saw a Tiktok about this case & HAD to know more. Went down a rabbit hole & wound up on this video. This was my 1st time seeing your videos & all I have to say is WOW! I wish I'd found you sooner! I'm now binging all your other videos & I love your content SO MUCH!! You also remind me of Boze, who also does true crime stuff 😂 You're beautiful inside & out, don't change a thing, Bailey! 🥰💖
loved that you took your time at the beginning of your vid to talk about racism, love to see creators use their platforms to raise awareness on these matters.
the police did such a horrible job at handling this case and it frustrates me so much it’s so clear that there was foul play involved and NOT an ACCIDENT !
They helped cover the case
That’s because they didn’t do their job at all.
What? Even Bailey thinks it was an accident, just a different accident. 😂
@@LeneeLeneeYou dont think covering up a death isn't foul play? Yikes.
@@Cooppoop19 It’s not “foul play” by definition.
The moment you said, “Forsyth County” I already knew. One thing for certain, I would NEVER go to a sundown town. Ever.
*ETA:* A sundown town is an all-White town, neighborhood, or community that was intentionally created by systematically keeping ethnic minorities, (primarily Black people) out of their town through the use of discriminatory laws, harassment and threats or use of violence. Do they still exist? Yes, there are some that do. The signs saying “No _________ Allowed” may be gone but the racism and judgement are still prevalent.
I'm glad to know that. I just moved to GA and Forsyth isn't that far away from me now. I'm glad to keep that in mind as I'm getting into the area lol
I replied up top but I'll reply here too...Sundown towns are TERRIFYING
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Don't know much about Georgia but i do know not being welcome. Not trying to be insensitive towards Tamala but they was being rude so both me and my tequila would've went home. I don't go anywhere i'm not wanted. The minute they would've start being rude would've been the minute i went home.
EVER
I live in Forsyth, GA, and I have never even heard of this story... This should have been EVERYWHERE. I'm so happy you did this story, Bailey. There is something beyond suspicious with this one. I hope Tamla's family is able to heal and find answers.
The method acting in this episode is on a different level! Bailey can't get enough of the southern accent
This was a really sad story, those women weren’t her friends.
That friend circle is probably not even friends with each other.
They weren't her friends. Her husband said she didn't want to go, but she wanted to keep a friendly relationship because their kids were friends.
Sometimes I take a break from listening to true crime, but when I inevitably come back to your channel, I realize how much I miss your voice and personality. You’re the friend I always have fun with when we finally see each other again. ❤
I also just like hearing Bailey's voice.
Samesies. I could listen to Bailey talk about anything. Lol. I think she's a comforting personality that we all like. 💗
Sameee
Saaaaame!
Same! ❤😊
738,007 signatures so far on the petition! Keep sharing, keep talking about Tamla’s story! This case needs to be reinvestigated!! Her kids and her family deserve the truth! 🫶🏽🫶🏽
I think it is also possible that the drugged her with Xanax as a "prank". They had bullied her before and I suspect she was the punching bag of the evening.
i wouldn't be surprised. And as someone who didn't take Xanax regularly like the other women, even if she did take it willingly;she may not have known about the interaction with alcohol. Whether an accident or on purpose, someone needs to be in jail. Five boys are without a mother.
My thoughts exactly, she was drugged making their guilty conscience even more evident
I was thinking this same thing and then something bad happened and they tried to cover it up
Thats my exact thought. Always have.
I actually think Bridget was the dud of the group, always there, desperate to be liked and she’s done it thinking it’d get her in with them for real. She’s someone who’s desperate to be a main character instead of a background extra. She’s totally “sidewalk woman number 6” energy.
This department needs to sued for negligence, everyone needs to be held responsible this needs more attention
The homeowner for sure should be sued and the insurance would go to her boys 😢
I really appreciate Bailey using her platform and her popolarity to reignite interest in case like this. I hope Tam’s family and friends will find justice one day!!
I personally love that you aren’t afraid to call out racism and the harm it causes.
Why didn't perfect friend Bridget offer to ask hubby to drop Tam off at home? 51:00
I thought the same thing!
Right!!!
Because she wasnt a true friend obviously!
No one was here. @@lailaeunice
Tam was already dead 😢
I'm a reserve detention officer, and I can tell you that dispatch and police officers (including detention officers) know each other. They're typically friends within a coworker setting. So I wouldn't doubt they're looking out for each other in a corrupt setting.
right in a town that small...i have law enforcement in my family ..and they know everybodyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
@@cjar1981never trust law enforcement.
Public notice: The instinct when you see someone fall or laying on their front is to flip them over, but unless they are poisoned, in immediate danger, or lying in liquid, DO NOT turn them over! If they have fallen this can PERMANENTLY damage their back and/or nerves. *Obviously* check for a pulse and breath, talk to them, but unless a first responder tells you, DO NOT roll the person over!
I remember my mom really pressing upon me the importance of never moving someone who'd been severely injured.
💯% true I learned that when I did my CPR training
This is true if there's an injury in the spinal cord and you move the person, this may lead to paraplegia or quadriplegia
True! But definitely not the case here. Sadly these people didn’t want to help her:( rip
Thank you! I was thinking this the whole time. I understand the instinct to flip them, and even the expectation, but as a trained EMT, the risk of traumatic spinal injury would absolutely make me hesitate.
The fact that you are acting out their voices has me weak, in no means is the situation funny but acting out their persona gives me such a better visual!
Bailey your suspicions are the most accurate. Xanax girl definitely had something to do with it. She was talking too much! Tamla had no reason to walk that woman to the door and sure as heck would not have kissed her on the cheek!?! That woman was giving too many “details”. The “aunt” probably heard the commotion since she was downstairs. So she had to keep changing her story. The boyfriend definitely helped Bridgette move her body. This is so sad and I pray she gets the justice she deserves!
I think it’s common that when people lie they build a big story with excessive details/very very small details. She’s definitely a liar !
This case is a prime example of why you should never mix pills and alcohol! Especially Xanax which is a benzodiazepine this kind of medication greatly intensifies the effects of alcohol. I 100% believe Bridgette would have known that and that she was sharing her meds with everyone at that party. Such a sad case 😢 rip Tamla. I hope her family is doing okay.
There was literally a picture of Tam on top of her on the couch. Seemed pretty close to me.
Hahaha when bailey showed Bridget and her interview I was like - "wait, what? This is the bish that she said tamla walked to the door and hugged?! NO WAY we're those 2 great friends. I must have heard wrong" so I rewound the video and realized - oh yeah, duh 🤦that bish is lying🤣
Yep, bridget the xanax queen is lying and it's so obvious it makes me feel embarrassed for her. People who tell the truth dont give this much convoluted detail and offer so many unrelated confusing bits of info like this. Also giving away some kind of guilt by trying to add in info from after she left. If she wasnt there but shes discussing what happened after she left she was either there at the time or she discussed it with others, as Bailey mentioned she said she spoke to Jose. Police should have been better at guiding the conversation because time is also limited in these situations.
MMMMDAYS DONT USUALLY MAKE ME CRY. The saddest, most heart wrenching fact about this case to me, is the jammies. Doesn't seem like a big deal, but I heard that and immediately thought of a woman getting to be a girl again, excited for a night with ladies to have fun with. Given her devoted motherhood, this was much more to Tam than some ladies bday party, making it all the more sad how she was treated throughout before a cruel fate.
This is exactly what got to me aswell 😞
Same!!
Well said! She has 5 boys and a husband. What woman wouldn't be excited to escape the testosterone for a night of laughs with the girls?!
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I saw the thumbnail and my heart drops everytime when I see the photo of the girls together at the slumberparty like that, with Tamal, the only POC woman, being the only one who got hurt/die. It’s heartbreaking.
I use to be so mad as a kid that my parents were so over protective. Especially when my parents never let me sleep over at my friends’ house and of course I was the only one who couldn’t go, but now that I’m older, I’m so thankful for it
Yes 😢
This is so sad!! I want for all to be safe when at a slumberparty, this is why Sundown towns are terrifying...
😢this case has been on my mind for years. Going to check out the petition.
@AdamIshak01
Only one in pajamas too, right?
@@flowersofantimony I also just learned what a sundown town was a week ago too. I didn’t know that concept or place still existed!
Your theory is spot on. It is shameful how her case was handled. Prayers for her family.
This is the most thorough exploration I’ve heard of this case.
I’ve been hoping you’d cover it.
It’s so obvious what happened here.
RIP Tamla.
Edited- petition signed.
Very obvious as are the reasons. Would had never went to that party. If it dont look right, im out of sight.
Death by misadventure yes. Bailey presented baseless speculation. I guess you missed her saying they are theories. Irresponsible of her to do.
as someone who grew up in forsyth county, thank you for spreading this story. it infuriates how much it has been suppressed by my community and our disgusting history tells you all you need to know
The history is not disgusting
I grew up here too! I had no idea about any of this, and I'm so ashamed of my hometown.
@@LeneeLeneehow is it not? There have been black hangings! For you to say that’s not disgusting is very telling
@@marikarosenboom6871 Many people of many races were hung back in the day.
@@LeneeLenee You saying the history isn't disgusting makes you as disgusting as the history. 😊
Georgia resident here. I'm also black. It's an open secret not to get caught outside of the metro area because once you leave, you're considered "fair game"...even in 2024. We still have sun down towns for example. Going on a road trip? Be careful where you stop for gas, and DO NOT draw attention to yourself.
I'm so sorry
That's so scary I'm so sorry :(
I live in Missouri and unfortunately in my highschool town my mom brought in a black lady that stopped at the gas station across from us after dark. My mom was terrified something bad would happen to her so she slept on our couch.
This is so sad I’m sorry
My sister lived in Georgia for a bit. She told me she would love for me and my partner to come visit (he's black) but that she wouldn't feel comfortable for us to go out without them. We never went of course.
Your theory on this actually had my heart racing! I could envision it happening in my mind and I can honestly believe how you explained it, makes the most sense. It fills in all the missing pieces in a realistic way. Love watching your videos ♥️
Bailey, you did more investigating on this case than the actual police
Smh
Upsets me you say you’re just a random person on the internet because genuinely you’re such an inspiration. You bring so much awareness and facts to true crime and at the end of the day this was somebody’s daughter somebody’s wife and somebody’s children and I KNOW you spreading some what the truth or awareness for this case brings them so much love x
So true. She brings these stories to life and is so respectful of the victims. We only get minimal info in the news.
Glad the MMM Monday video alert wasn’t just an April Fools prank.
Always happy to hang with Bailey on a Monday!!
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They may be from Miami. Just saying Florida women. Sun get to people brain. Some are gnarly dudes most dumb AF.
Seriously❤
❤❤❤❤❤❤ hii my girl
Bailey don’t stop doing what your doing what your doing, your a blessing in disguise if it wasn’t for my niece I wouldn’t known half of the things I know now. Well I wouldn’t known the actual dark truth behind everything .! Thank you Bailey 🙏🏽 ❤ this story when it first came out made me mad that I couldn’t keep following up with the story made me not want to make friends just straight up scared, still am
Your hypothesis as to what happened explains everything, I think you are spot on and that’s what happened
Yes!! I never even thought of her falling down the stairs but the minute Bailey said that everything made sense. For real a lot of detectives could use Bailey. Just give her the information and then let her have a go. I bet we’d have a lot more solved cases and people charged that deserves it.
I agree 100%. Falling down the stairs or someone pushing her down the stairs makes so much sense.
Here's my theory: the other women were already being awful to Tam & made her the outsider, so when she wanted to stay up Jean got annoyed & got some Xanax from Bridgette & they spiked Tam's drink. They might have even spiked her drink earlier & that's why someone was always with her when she went outside. All the substances didn't interact well & Tam felt weird, so she went outside. She'd said a few times she wanted to go home but they couldn't let her in case her husband realised what had happened. When Tam was on the balcony that last time she realised someone had spiked her drink, she accused either Jean or Bridgette (probably Jean) & they got angry & panicked when Tam stated she was going to leave. There was an altercation & they pushed Tam & she fell down the stairs. Everyone involved is freaking out & Jean gets José to help cover things up. When Bridgette's husband turns up they tell her to go so she doesn't raise suspicion. José takes charge & directs Jean (& anyone else involved) to help him but they're panicking so they keep leaving doors open. Jean makes the call in the morning but is freaking out & so passes the phone to José.
It makes more sense to me that Jean was involved somehow because José wouldn't risk his job for a friend of his girlfriend. However if the woman he's living with is involved then he's going to help her. Aside from love as a motivation, it's her house. If she's in jail & he didn't help stop her going there, then he's not going to be living in that nice big house any more. He'll lose his girlfriend & his home.
I believe that. The combo of xanex and alcohol probably killed her. Then they covered it up.
Yep your theory makes sense. They didn't care about her. I don't think they intentionally killed her but they were being suspicious and 1000% covered up evidence and are lying
I think this is a solid theory!
That’s exactly what I’m thinking happened.
I was thinking same
As someone who falls quite often, your theory is dead on, Bailey Sarian!
Lifting her leg up to check if she's dead reminds me of the time I found a dead mouse on my porch. I didn't want the mouse to bite me so I kept slightly tugging its leg. Tam was an animal to these people, not a friend.
Oh !
Do you think tam , she was maybe trying to jump off the balcony to the pooL ?! 😧
@@lizardwhispererfivehead3552 where is the pool? I didn't see one in the picture.
There's no pool!
Not a funny comment!
@@lindag3736 it wasn’t meant to be funny
I thought there was a pool
My apologies 🥹
@@lizardwhispererfivehead3552it would be so gruesome and decomposition would be worse
I freaking love you, Bailey. I know doing these dark stories can weigh down one’s psyche and can get a bit heavy after a while, but I want to say thank you so much for what you do and the energy you put into it.
honestly Bailey your opinion in the way it happened literally makes so much sense. it’s disgusting how they covered this up. i’m appalled…
I just watched this episode again. This is a masterpiece in storytelling. TV networks and other crime podcasts don't compare. Bailey paints a clear picture of the characters and their motives.
The historical context, the interplay with Jose's connections, Bridget, etc all play into the case. Bailey and her team are amazing and I hope this episode wins awards. I'm properly outraged for Tamla and her family.
as someone who grew up around that county and now lives very close, i believer they are 100% covering something up, the connections within that county is insane. that county has the worst energy you can feel it as soon as your inbounds
Please if you don’t mind and get the time to sign can you call up their sheriffs office I was SO happy with all the calls people were doing at the time when this broke the news I think even email is better as people were both showing and audio recording the interactions this might be why there is a chance of re-investigation and I live in England else I would myself
Reminds me of a place here in Texas called Vidor. 😡
Houston county native- the corruption is real.
This episode is longer than a CVS receipt and I am SO here for it 🍿
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Me too, I got snacks and I'm prepared to watch this
Lol watched this while on line at CVS😂
lol cvs receipt lololol 😂
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As adults we should know when someone doesn't like u. Please don't try to fit in where you aren't wanted. This was adult bullying gone completely wrong So sad.
As a black woman, she shouldn’t have been trying to fit with anybody in that town in the first place. I remember Oprah went there for here show, like back in the early 90’s. They said exactly who, and what they were to Oprah, knowing it was going to be broadcast on TV to the world. And they were proud of themselves. Absolutely no shame.
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💯agree!
@@LotsofLisawasn't she not originally from the US. I'm wondering if that had something to do with it.
@@LotsofLisacarribean black women always think we are making racism up or it doesn’t apply to them until it’s too late like this
Love what you do Bailey, and please keep doing the accent when applicable as it enhances the narrative.
All of the microaggressions throughout the transcripts are so crazy!! I was triggered on this one! Keep bringing attention to things like this Miss Bailey.
I love that Bridget was regularly watching the kids. We finally found Zanny the Nanny!
I thought the same thing 😂
Same
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Not Zanny! I don’t want to laugh, it just slipped out.
I came to comment this and you beat me to it!!
Thank you so much for covering this case. I've heard so many different takes on what people think "really" happened, and your theory seems to make the most sense. During Bridget's interview, she started to say something about José and then quickly switched it to something else. She definitely has a guilty conscience, but like you said, she likes to talk. I believe one day, hopefully soon, she will break and tell someone. I hope for the sake of Tamlas husband and kids they reopen the case. On the one year anniversary of her death I saw an interview her husband did with activist Tamika Mallory, and he said the night of the party he didn't want her to go and they had an arguement about it, and how he will never forgive himself for making a big deal about it. My heart broke when he said that. Her family deserves justice.
Please PLEASE PLEASE sign the petition. This is way too important to let go ❤❤❤
I absolutely love that you covered this case because the math is not mathing in this whole f**ked situation. They totally killed her
They absolutely killed her. Either as a collective or one person killed her and they all banded together to cover it up. Im leaning more toward the former. Something happened in that house and everyone there that night knows exactly how she died.
Sounds like an Annie Elise fan here!!
@sbonelli Some of them left early. But the rest should have all been interrogated for hours at the station. Especially, the boyfriend and the homeowner lady.
Does anyone else find it super sus that she took a SS of her notifications, but not of the actual app with all the info on it? And even more sus that the police didn't clock that as suspicious?
How does she get to send a screenshot but victims of grape get their phones taken and privacy completely invaded…
Everything is sus about how they handled it
There's ALOT the police didn't clock in this case. Gives a black and blue shadow to all the men in true blue that give their all to protect and serve.
Bailey you doing the accents & that impression of Bridget is the best part of this video 😂 I believe part of the reason you’re so successful as a UA-camr is because you’re actually HILARIOUS. I love you!!!
a spot on impression, too. made me laugh when she played the recording. lol
Absolutely!!
I cackled so hard when she held up her drawing bc it looks like something I’d draw😂 I was like “BAILEY, THIS IS SERIOUS”🤣🤣 i adore her sm ❤
Girl, you got Jose and Bridget quaking in their cowboy boots after that theory of yours
Sounds like mean girl mentality. Like they all ganged up on her. It’s so sad and they should all get charged in her death.
Exactly! Like all the scratches and bruises....probably hurt her more and forced the tequila and Zanax down her throat and 💯 guilt kept these friends making sure her poor face was down in the ground! Team up with Bones & NCIS!
I work in forensics at a police station and it’s very rare for people to NOT touch the body. They always look for a sign of life and are always very clear and upfront about touching them or if they moved them in any way (to do cpr or try to wake them up). This whole thing was handled so poorly
Forensics labs are not inside police stations 🧐🧐
@@LeneeLeneeours in Nashville is inside a police precinct, so maybe hers is similar!
@@nikki12795 Precinct and station are two different things….
@@LeneeLeneeyou're here replying under all these comments being argumentative for no reason. Ffs get a hobby.
@@-xxMelissaxx- And here you are ….
Bailey, you did a better job pointing out inconsistencies than the police and GBI. Thank you for covering this story. I hope that Tamela’s family will one day come to know what really happened.
I absolutely love your makeup in this video. That “thick liner” is a bomb look on you Bailey. You look so pretty!!!
Your theory makes so much sense! The stairs feel like the most plausible answer for the injuries. Maybe Jose purposefully kept the back door open when he was finished thinking it would look like Tam had left it open behind her before she "fell" off the balcony, setting the scene for an accident that happened while everyone else was asleep. Whatever happened that night it's terrible, and I don't believe for an instant there aren't people who were there that know exactly what happened.
Ok but if she fell down the stairs and died , then why not leave her there? Unless there was something obvious about it being foul play... I don't get why they would move her to the grass when the injuries wouldn't match
The lady that gave her xanax was probably afraid because she didnt want to go to jail for that. People are dumb that way. @mrsks5399
As far as the ambulance being called off, I have a family member who is an EMT and they said that a coroner deals with a body but EMS shows up to confirm the absence of heart activity. And that they don’t know anywhere police would cancel EMS unless there’s VERY OBVIOUS signs of death.
Suspish to say the least.
Also, mixing Xanax and alcohol is dangerous. And someone who is so reliant on them is typically warned of that. Mixing these can depress a person’s nervous system, making it hard for them to move and even causing them to not breathe. It’s dangerous.
Fr I was given xanax by a dr. and drank on it, not knowing they didn't mix. Which is crazy cause we rarely drink.
(it was not clearly marked on the bottle and the dr. Never told me; this was before the whole opi0d awareness movement across the USA. My husband asked me never to take it again. He said it made me aggressive and verbally abusive. I agreed and never took it again, it freaked me out so badly to think I treated him like that and didn't remember it since I grew up with addict parents, it was scary. It's super easy to get addicted to it, too.
I agree. I'm an emt and we come confirm death with the cardiac monitor. Especially in an otherwise healthy young individual with an unknown cause. The only time police cancel us is when they are pretty much decomposing.
Your comment literally provided a reason for why they would've called off an ambulance and then said suspish. What? Make it make sense. There were obvious signs that she was dead.
@@-xxMelissaxx- I can see how that was confusing. Let me elaborate: “Obvious signs” would be decomposition, key parts of the body missing, extensive blood loss at the scene, more gore, etc. For this case, there was not any of that and as someone replied earlier, for a person who had no medical history to suggest a sudden death, and the fact that EMTs are needed to confirm death along with a coroner in most cases, it is suspicious. Tamla’s death had been within hours of being found, but the exact estimate of time was not made clear, even then, since it had been so recent to her being found, a coroner would be needed along with EMS to confirm death. Because there would not have been advanced decomp, or an extreme injury that would lead one to conclude she was dead. It wasn’t that type of crime scene.
My aunt literally went into a coma from mixing Xanax and alcohol so my first thought was Bridgette being a regular user would HAVE to be aware of dangerous mixing those are
I love how smug Bridget sounds during her interview- she probably left and told the others from the party “oh don’t worry, he loved me! He told me I was the most pleasant interview he had ever done” I charmed the pants off of him!
😂 She definitely said that.
I think she was on xannies when she did that interview. What sane, sober person would act like that while being questioned?
@@lukelliott1 oh definitely she was!!
Your theory makes a lot of sense!! Those women were mean and absolutely involved from the beginning. This family deserves the truth
Bailey I think your theory is SPOT ON! I'd bet money that the events transpired exactly how you said they did. It makes so much sense.
14:15 imagine someone's going on a trip and they buy the best of the best alcohol for you, like you CANNOT get better tequila than you can get in mexico straight from the source, and then when they gift it to you you announce how much you hate it. Absolutely vile
They could have been grateful, i don’t drink tequila but id make a cocktail or something with it…
Nope, not Becky. She’s never grateful especially when a black person do something we just slaves to y’all. 😂😂😂😂
Exactly my thoughts 💭 some people are so effing rude!! 😢
Seriously just say thank you and move on. And if you really don't like tequila regift it to someone else
I feel like this is a prime example of why you have outside detectives do the interviewing and not police officers.
One of my favorite cases I love how throughout the years her story is still shared she deserved better 👏👏
Wished you would have covered how the police treated the family afterwards. Hearing her husband's story of the police informing him of Tamla's death is rage-inducing.
how'd they inform him?
@@Amelia-jn8ptvia anonymous Snapchat messages
they sent him picture on snapchat and text messages if u look up online there’s screenshots
No! Are you serious??
Oh what?! That poor man 😢 I want to read more about this case
I have strong thoughts on this case ! Let’s say there had been a house full of black women and only 1 white woman and this white woman ends up dead in the backyard,EVERYONE would’ve lost their minds !! I think the owner of the house was jealous of Tamla because her boyfriend was flirting with her in the kitchen and her and her mean girls friends pushed her off the balcony while she was outside smoking !!!
Facts!!!
BOOM
So true!
I think the same about jealousy. Or she was so affected by the alcohol and Xanax she thought she was at home and walked into their bedroom and got in their bed then they all threw her off but idk. It’s defo strange.
🎤 drop! You nailed it!
Video isnt even over and I've already signed the petition. Terrible people for treating Tam like that and shame on the police.
so she posted a pic with her friends about how much she loves dunkin masks yet didn’t make a post for her dead friend ? 🚩 WHAT😭
Thank you so much for talking about the history of Forsyth because the historical trauma definitely plays a part in how this case is/isnt being handled. I pray that Tamla and her family gets justice.