Why Wout Van Aert’s Giro Plan Is Total NONSENSE
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2023
- Why Wout Van Aert’s Giro Plan Is Total NONSENSE
For the past few weeks, there have been countless rumors about Wout van Aert’s alleged decision to take on the 2024 Giro d’Italia, and he finally confirmed all those speculations to be true. After all those years, he put his foot down and his cyclocross schedule to chase the pink jersey for the first time in his career. But as good as this might sound, it’s not looking like a good idea. So why does Wout van Aert’s plan to race the Giro make no sense? And how would this affect the Jumbo-Visma?
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He didn't confirm he will go for the GC at all. Just that he'll be riding the giro. Check your sources
one big problem with this analysis is: Jumbo doesn't need Wout to win the TdF or be 100%. They just need him to do some work. If he loses some weight, he may not be able to face up against pure sprinters, but he'll still be a huge threat in 1 day Classics. Losing the weight may even make him better in those 250km+ races.
Exactly he was a monster in 22 but in the 23 edition...
The Olympics are very close to the tour as well this year
@@roiben-ari2375 As they usually are - every time apart from 2000.
Well, I think he can pull it off, he's the kind of powerhorse like Mercks was, and instead of working for a leader, he´ll be the leader of a team in a grand tour, with his skillset I think he may surprise the cycling world. The next season is looking very promising.
Wout Van Aert indicated himself that 'Riding for GC cannot be combined with the other things I want'
I don't know why you talked so much about Wout doing the Giro and the Tour.
He talked about his goals were going to the Giro and the Olympics, and he would miss the Tour completely in order to be 100% at them.
I don't think Jumbo actually needs to send him to the Tour anyway. As long as Vingegaard is the best climber in the world, they can send Kruijswijk, Tratnik or Valter instead of him and not miss a beat.
Back in the height of the blood doping days, WvA would have been a monster. He’d be another Jan Ullrich. He’ll be fine for the Giro because now there is lug worm hemoglobin to use.
Wout already explicitly said that hes not going to (seriously) contend for GC in the Giro.
It would be great to see Wout win a grand tour.
i want to see that even as a mvdp fan
Van Aert wants more resources to support his ambitions, one of them is to try his hand at a grand tour.
By sending him to the Giro with a team of promising youngsters, Visma gives a chance to Wout and a great learning opportunity of learning for the rest of the team.
Pretty sure WVA will teach them all they need to know about being a good domestique and even if he doesn't win it'll be a good experience for everyone.
He's said several times his goals are in the classics and he's targetting paris roubaix and RVV, he said recently he's not targetting giro GC so I don't know what are the sources of what you're saying.
It would be interesting if Jumbo send the superkid, Jørgen Nordhagen, to the Giro. He has a huge heart (huge o2 capacity)
Wout is good enough to dictate what he wants and why should he just be a domestique for Vingegaard. Vingegaard will have to try and win the TDF without Wout. All the A listers GC guys are doing the TDF so this years is Wout's best chance to win the Giro! Wout going for the Giro makes sense to me.
Well, Primoz is gone, and they sort of have to go for all three GT's, after having won them in 2023! So, why not let Wout give it a shot, and maybe that is some new motivation for him as well. Can't really see him win it, but sounds like a great entertaining Giro to see him go for it. And he is a true class rider after all. For once, the Visma team is taking a long shot. I like it.
I like it. I wish he makes an big impact and also more chanches 4 Roglic at the TDF this way probably.
I think the reason why the Olympics are mostly won by TdF-participants is because thats where the best riders start
Most of the best riders do go to the Tour, but not every one of them.
But every single Olympic gold medallist did start the Tour since the professionals became eligible in 1996.
He won't go to the TDF, he will prepare himself for the olympics.
This precisely.
and Im glad he does let the tour aside ;)
Pogacar isn't doing the Giro, his team would never let him.
Only B leaders are going there with all the big teams like UAE, Visma, Bora and Soudal focusing on the Tour.
Sept kuss rode in all 3 grand tours and won one of them
I won the giro on PCM 22 with him against Pogacar so it’s definitely possible for Van Aert to win
Finally a comment with common sense.
Good that Wout tries this if this is correct. With Pogacar in the same race his chances seem quite slim, still waint and see how far he gets.
Do you remember the runner Steve Prefontaine? He started running full gas on the olympics right from the beginning he was doing an amazing run until the end and finally the end of the race he didn't even win 3rd place. What I'm trying to say is that if he starts this strong I doubt he will perfom at a higher level
tour of flanders, paris roubaix, olympics an world championship... his goals but also Mathieu VDP his goals
"A *superstar* like Van Aert not going to the tour just doesn't seem right", yet "in the tour he serves as a key player (domestique) for Vingegaard".
You just proved his point.
Thanks for jinxing it! 😂
Van Aert has already stated in Belgian media that he will be targeting stage wins and not the gc. The main reason he isn't going to the tour is because he made a goal of winning a gold medal in the Paris Olympics this year
Sepp Kuss last year did all 3 of the Grand Tours and was one of the best in every Grand Tour
Thankfully he backed out of this, to be honest it didn't seem like it was his idea to do the Giro in the first place...
Also, he probably won't ride tdf as the olympics are his maingoal in thz summer
Correct. He’s already said it.
Seb kuss drove last year all the 3 big cources. every thing is possible
Some of the cycling fans need to understand and appreciate how elite you have to be to actually win a jersey in the most prestigious races. Be it a stage or overall. Sepp rightfully won himself the red jersey in the beginning and the fact his equally elite teammates supported him, doesn’t lessen his impact.
I gree that he should not take on the Giro GC, but not one thing you said made sense (except the classics + giro combo difficlty)
He will not go for the GC in the Giro. He said so himself in a 2 hour Dutch podcast "De Rode Lantaarn". But he also said the Giro will be his main goal of the next season while he was in Colombia for a gravel race. So who knows...
I genuinely think that Paris Roubaix is Wout's big personal target this year, and I think he'll win it as well.
Wout the f**k were Jumbo thinking
All that silver he has consumed has obviously confused his thinking. He should be 100% focused on one day classics, i.e. what hes doing atm.
I am new to bike racing. Wout in CX literally is why I got into the sport. Even I, who knows nothing, agrees with you… or maybe that is a bad thing 😂 . Either way, I enjoy your videos.
you're both wrong
MVPD tried this few years ago
Well he got out of TDF he wasn't able to do it
The Giro is the one tour that has seriously deep pockets and is willing to shell out huge appearance fees for specific riders. He’s doing it for the pay day, just like MDVP did last year. Wout just has a slight GC potential in a weak field, so that plays it up more. I don’t blame him, he’s probably getting a few hundred thousand euro just to line up.
i dont see why it would be a bad plan. cyclists of similar posture have won the Giro before him, an important example is Tom Dumoulin. Dumoulins weight before he turned GC rider was about the same weight as Wout now is. So Wout would have to lose weight, but why could he not do that, like Dumoulin did. I know for some ppl weight loss doesnt work, but you cant know if Wout is one of those ppl. I doubt very much that Pogacar would do the Giro this year, for 2 reasons, first he lost the Tour this year because of how much he ride before the Tour (and the crash ofcourse), so why would he now ride even more. on top of that its the olympics next year. and the reason you bring here that noone did it in 19 years before Froome, that was because most of the Tour de France winners, like Armstrong, Ullrich, Indurain etc always only did 1 grand tour a year, the Tour the France. so it wasnt cuz it was too hard, it was just cuz they only cared about the Tour. a good example on the contrary is Sepp Kuss last year, he did 3 grand tours and was super good in all 3 of them. Wout would also only ride ass helper in the Tour, or maybe he would even skip the Tour in favour of the olympics.
finally ofcourse it could lower his chances for the spring classics, but he has been focussing on that for the last 5 years and it didnt bring him any wins there (except milan san remo, but the 2 he wanted to win were Flanders and Roubaix). so yea, he could keep trying year after year without lowering his weight and still dont win those. or try to become a GC rider and maybe still have a slim chance in the spring classics too (specially Flanders as we saw lighter riders like Pogacar can also win there).
I agree. Also, there's nothing that say that a lighter Wout wouldn't be a younger Miguel Indurain. They have similar characteristics in the time trial and Indurain was never able to become a true threat to win at a GC until he cut the weight.
@@S0ulinth3machin3 yes its just the question how will his weight cut affect him, cuz there have also been examples where it didnt work, like with Cancelara, Martin, Olano or Dennis.
@@joowsty at worst, if it doesn't work, he can put the weight back on and he's still a guy who won the Mont Ventoux stage at the TdF, the guy who set a pace for Vingegaard so ferocious on the Hautacam at the TdF that Pogacar was dropped. The guys you listed, none of them were at that level in the high mountains. I think if Wout is at the level of summer of 2022, he could win the Giro. Even if he's off that level a bit, he's still a contender.
@@S0ulinth3machin3 i agree with you fully. im a big MvdP fan and i have always hoped he is going to try something like van Aert now is going to try, tho i dont think Matthieu will ever try it. besides MvdP i used to be a very big fan of Dumoulin and him doing what vanAert is planning to do made me super happy (ofcourse also cuz it worked out for him super good and it was the first grand tour win for my country in almost 40 years).
I dont like the idea of a lighter Wout. I would like him to keep those very good muscles. I am not sure, but I think Knut Asle Arvesen lost weight during his career, and he never got better than he was as U23 rider (World Champion). I believe that the riders should compete at the weight that they naturally gain in order to get the best out of themselves. Which means that Wout will never be a better climber than Vingegaard (at his best), but he will always beat hin in the sprints.
WVA is not a domestique and he doesnt need to plan the season based on Vingegaard's needs, being nice and unselfish already cost him several wins, he is gearing towards the end of his career, he needs to think first and foremost to his legacy.
Going for GC in the Giro will mean he's not going to be competitive in Flanders and Roubaix
it's better to listen to others for victories than to win the 2024 Giro
Sees what Sepp did and thinks he should get the same opportunity. Perhaps.
He never said this
Why not let him try and see? Gives cycling a good storyline.
He won’t win a grand tour he’s not a grand tour rider by nature. He’s far too big to win a grand tour, he’d have the lose 8-10kg and that’ll be hard being 190cm tall. He’s just not made to win a grand tour, he’s really a world class classics rider and time triallist, that can sprint among the best but is not among the fastest sprinters and he can climb well but he’s not a top 10 climber
Just like dumilon
Sounds a bit like what people said about Indurain
Wout is the exception to the rule when it comes down his size. He would could win the giro.
Is this written by a bot or AI?
Same, there is a tons of nonsenses
It's a Carlton Kirby AI bot. I'm ready for the urn man
WVA is an incredible cyclist, he can do almost anything on a bike.
Pogacar has just ruined his dream of winning the Giro tho.
I don't know how much skinner Wout can get. He's not built like a climber and it's not easy to lose upper body muscle.
If anyone deserves a grand tour winits wout. Hs been so selfess for his team mates.
Rigoberto believe he can win 🥇
I would take a bet to him winning
I watch your vids and it seems like you have a bug up your butt about GC Kuss---his win wasn't a gift: its the rules of the race that you don't attack your won leader and that leader is the one in red
wout isnt even racing in the tdf - because he is going to the olympics, so please do your research
and than the example of riders going to different races and not performing is badly researched as well - because someone called Sepp Kuss, just did all 3 big tours and performed in every single one of them
This analysis is - I'd say - idiotic to some extent, as it is based on the assumption that van Aert would want to be a domestique for a third TdF in a row. But who tells you that he was happy doing that and considerably lowering his chances of personal successes in the past two seasons? Also, he didn't win much in 2023 and never raced for GC (apart from the 2021 Tirreno-Adriatico, where he finished 2nd, behind Pogačar), so he might just want to win a lot of relevant GT stages (which he could definitely do at the Giro) to regain confidence before the Worlds or the Olympics or just want to test himself as a GC rider in a grand tour to understand what would be better for him to do in his future years. Beside that, while it's absolutely true that it's hard to be competitive at both the Giro and the TdF when it comes to an overall victory or a GC leader, it's not so if you're planning to just be a domestique at the TdF (just look at Kuss last year), as you wouldn't need to go to the TdF on top form to be a domestique. The only weak part in his season plan is the fact that he wants to be competitive at both the spring classics and the Giro, which is historically extremely difficult (if not impossible) to combine, even given the very different preparation those races require. But the rest is truly bs.
Get ur facts straght
Your analysis is so wrong. Wout going to TdF requires him to spend so much energy for Jonas it will be impossible for him to do well in Paris.
MVDP used the tour as prep for WC, Jumbo isn't going to do that with Wout if Jonas is in trouble. So it best if Wout say flat out "No" I am not going to the TdF.
Because guys like you would call him a bad teammate if he does go to TdF, but refuses to drive himself into asphalt to help Jonas. It's best if he doesn't go, he deserves... No he has earned the right to prepare for this coming season without babysitting Jonas.
AI voice lol. JOOMBO visma
This whole video is chat gpt - so bad
Low-effort AI-generated nonsense.
Wout is a GC rider For SURE ! If he can rely on a good team he could end in the top 5 of the general classification. Wout was Always a GC rider but his managment have chosen he must support and work for Vingegaard and in somme cases for roglic . If Wout can spread his energie over several stages he could perform verry well . But if Pogacar and Remco joining the Giro the chanse of winning the giro for Wout is verry small. In the TT Pogacar and Remco are performing verry wel as you know. So Jumbo must comme up with a spectaculiar plan to give Wout a chanse of Wout winning the giro. Wout is a TOP 5 rider of the world for sure ! And he have showen us alreddy unhuman performences in the tour the france.
In most teams in the peleton Wout would be the GC rider ! do you agreed ???
he is not
Is there another Wout you were talking about?
The Wout Van Aert I know is about 190 cm 78 kg, is the 4th or 5th in Jumbo's Tour de France climbing train, and has conceded more than an hour on average in GT GCs.
He also hasn't been able to win a single stage race in his career if it contained a mountain, let alone compete for a GT with 6+ mountain stages.
What did you base your theory on?
that's what im saying.... no chance@@andrasszabo1570