@@AAAskeet Couldn't sell a country outhouse to a bunch of flies...well maybe they can, since they are both shit in the ring. Page is slightly less shit than Perry, but he's still shit.
But at the same time, did Punk show respect to Hangman or anyone else with a different vision than him creatively? We don't know. Remember his argument vs Jack Perry using glass was "let's not do dumb internet shit on TV". Did he have that mindset for every hardcore match/ street fight? Did he feel that way about lucha libre matches? Comedy segments? Maybe punk wasn't showing respect for all the styles on aew he didn't prefer, and unless you were backstage, none of us know for certain.
@@styles-omega-danielson7017 Holy dishonesty Batman. Your glass argument makes no sense since there were 4 people that asked Jack not to do it and then Tony asked help from Punk to go talk to Perry about it. Now even if your argument made sense... you are talking about something that happened a year after the page promo lol. Now you're stretching a false narrative spawned from that non sense to imply Punk was going around telling all the boys how to be wrestlers and because of that Page had every right to shoot on punk. There was no beef with Page and Punk prior to the promo - the beef was Page marking out on false rumors that he had Cabana fired. Like dude wtf you're fake news.. AEW fans ladies and gents. 😂😂😂😂 "DiD PuNk PrAisE tHe DeVil anD eAT BabiES? We dOn'T KNoW!".
That's like half their roster with that attitude. Look at the guys that have passed through... Jake Roberts, Regal, Arn Anderson, etc... Tony paraded them out in nothing roles instead of using them to build some sort of training system because he knows his roster's a bunch of children that aren't going to listen to anyone. I would have taken veteran names like that and built an AEW version of the Performance Center to make my talent better.
Considering tony hired punk as his advisor, and that punk didn't like the IWC style wrestling that the elite were aiming for, I can see why the bucks wanted punk gone. They knew punk would end up telling Tony the bucks shit ain't the makings of wrestling business sense
Kahn only signed Punk because of ratings, he never understood exactly what he had, plus yes allowing people to cut there own promos is much better but you still have to be a leader and make sure there are promos don't go away from the storyline.
Finally someone said it. Thank you my friend. Been saying for a while the only reason he's where he's at is because the Bucks brought him into Bullet Club back in the day.
Been saying it for years now. Page isn't all that whatsoever. If he leaves AEW and tries to go to WWE, they won't hire him because of the Punk promo. Going off-script like that is a huge nope for WWE. Plus, he can't hold a candle to most of the other wrestlers on the roster, including NXT. Meltzer's 5-star ratings mean diddly-shit, always have.
I couldn't like Adam Page no matter how hard I tried, his championshi run was Meh ASF and the neckbeards in the IWC wanted it "you deserrrve it!!" that made me cringe
What Al said about Punk not being able to trust Page with his body if he can't trust him to not go into business for himself is so true. Remember, Page chipped Punk's tooth during their match, and didn't even apologize or try to talk to him after that. And the only receipt Page got was being called out by Punk, only to turn it into some goofy internet thing with him and his buddies dry humping backstage while Punk called him out. 😒
Punk went into business for himself multiple times by burying Hangman on live TV on MULTIPLE occasions after their feud was done. Why was that okay but some throwaway line by Hangman was somehow the end of the world for Punk? Sounds like Punk just has a super fragile ego.
@@Billy-bc8pkhe did the one time. The only other time was after Collision went off air, so that wasn’t “live tv”. Page also didn’t just say one “throwaway line”, he went COMPLETELY off script, thus ruining the entire segment because they couldn’t do anything they agreed on. That was the go home show for the PPV. How is that not a huge deal? How is that not something that should require massive punishment (only to not get any of it)? The receipt doesn’t even come close to how utterly disrespectful that was. At the point Punk “went into business for himself” (which, again, was only the one time when he first came back) it was fair game.
@Billy-bc8pk Naw, that was Punk trying to do what's best for business. He tried reaching out to Adam Page and The Bucks because he knew working with them with all that heat was $$$. But like Punk said AEW isn't about making $.
@@Billy-bc8pk Man, post a link to all of this for me. Because there are channels that cover people's entire runs in wrestling promotions on this thing called UA-cam, they also have interviews and stuff there too. You Punk haters keep saying that Punk did this and that but, why isn't there any evidence of this? Y'all just make shit up 🤣😂 it's weird.
Seems like people backstage were hell bent on sabotaging his run from the start. They gaslit Punk by poking the bear and got the reactions out of him that they wanted
I think that is exactly what they were trying to do. They wanted punk out and they planned this out from the get-go to get him to blow up or whatever else it would take to have him quit. Very sad that they did that to their main draw.
He had a script, and he would just go slightly off at times... You take the script and tweak it slightly, that is all there is to it Not you throw the entire script away and do wahtever you want... CM Punk always knew to relate it to the match they setting up and the story they were telling Adam Page was basically starting his own story before the major PPV
@@calebmccarthy454 well. I mean. If we want to be anal about things Punk never really did scripts. He did what everyone before scripting in wrestling did. Bullet points. You still go over the topics. You may have some lines planned word for word. But it’s a collaboration on the concept and topic and the rest is improvised which isn’t necessarily a script.
I think AEW apologists are in disbelief that Page, Perry & the Buck's are as stupid as Punk is saying. For his claims to be true, it would mean that these guys they cheer for on TV are legitimately dumb-asses. I think people want AEW to succeed and it blinds them.
I've never been a Punk fan. He just doesn't "click" with me for various reasons. That said, I do respect his work and he was 110% in the right here and made the right decision to do whatever he could to GTFO of that dysfunctional place. If someone like me who's never stepped foot in a wrestling ring and never will can see this, how clueless must those AEW guys be?
Punk was largely right. Guaranteed contracts and picking your own schedule has ruined the business - particularly AEW. Look, that's great if you're an employee but horrible for the quality of the product on TV. As we can see, AEW is a prime example of that. AEW is where wrestlers go when they don't want to work under a structure that's about putting butts on the seats. It's about them doing whatever they want - good or bad. Mostly bad.
and they should go out of business. sorry but i only care about my time and entertainment. its on the workers and employers to figure out how to entertain us and get our money will staying healthy. their well being isn’t my concern. so if you coddle workers and that means im not entertained im going to tune out. and i’ll tell everyone i know to avoid your mud show product.
It's interesting that you say this. Yes, I agree with you 100%. But when you read the word salad Dave Meltzer and outlets like Whatculture regurgitates, then you are force fed this Japan = great narrative. I legit once saw one of their writers make the case that a guy like Okada has an aura bigger than Brock Lesnar - which is obviously hogwash of course. The result is that these guys in the bubble forget how big WWE is and how universally their stars are known. It's not Omega, Naito or Ospreay on the Late Show. But because these guys are in the bubble, they feel that they get to look down on the WWE. So no, I don't think Page and Perry had any idea just how big a star Punk is. Yes, I hundred percent think they thought themselves on a level with him. Yes, you are right, they are dead dead wrong.
So much bullshit simply because a veteran wanted to help a company grow and gave advice to a bunch of prima donnas that think they know more than people who have drawn money.
can u blame the indie wrestlers tho ,they never were told what to do and did what they wanted or basicly didnt work, that has always ben their mentality,they dont ahve respect for anyoone becasue they dont need to have it as they do what they want and dont need to respect anyone to work
@@wingedhussar1453. Exactly. And that’s what NXT was partially designed for, was to wash ‘indie stink’ off of some of the talent. AEW simply lets the indie stay indie.
This just goes to show that there has to be a proper boss behind the scenes. End of. When VKM was in charge no matter how good or bad it was if someone went out to the ring and went into business for themselves - that’s them done, no more push and you’re going to take a your punishment out in the ring. Also this is where having talent who’ve spent time under Vince’s incredibly tight scripting or scheduling means that they know where the line is. HHH is showing that you can give talent creative license but ultimately it has to be approved. TK is allowing his talent to do what they want, when they want. As Punk said he's a good guy but just isn't cut out to be that ultimate authority figure, if he was then Punk wouldn't have been allowed to say what he said at All Out, VKM, HHH would have shut that down immediately.
@@THE.T.R.U.T.H that goes without saying but the fact is that talent couldn’t go into business for themselves and get away with it, not when Vince was in charge.
Some of this is reminiscent of the Rock and John Cena’s build to Wrestlemania a few years ago,‘when Cena called out the Rock for having written notes on his arm. Rock had no idea that Cena was going to use that in a promo, so when Cena went and used it, Rock was surprised and visibly angry. John went into business for himself without asking Dwayne first, and it had consequences. It caused the Rock to win the Mania match instead of Cena, who was supposed to win. You’re supposed to trust your coworkers in wrestling. When that trust is broken, it ruins business.
I don't care about Jack Perry, but the guy who should have been punished was Adam Page. He set everything in motion. He was also a poor champion who risked hurting their biggest draw right before he won the belt. He never got punished. That's on TK as well. That's what set everything in motion. If he would have been suspended or something and was forced to sit down with Punk and squash it, it probably wouldn't have gone nearly as badly.
Page was the only one who invigorated their match because Punk didn't care. Punk was there for the payday and to botch the entire match from start to finish, grab the belt, and bury talent along the way, which is precisely what he did. Adam Page was the only one who made the fight at the PPV seem like it had some sort of stakes. Funny how Page trying to do something to bolster business is seen as something punish worthy, but Punk going into business for himself (burying the locker room, burying the roster, burying Page multiple times live on air post-feud) is always justified by CM Punk's fans. You can dislike Page all you want, but the reality is that CM Punk is a giant hypocrite.
@@Billy-bc8pk Punk had a pretty good feud with MJF right before he went against Page, but he was probably fed up with the backstage environment by the time the Page feud happened. Some people have said that Punk tried to help out the young guys in AEW, but his advise fell on deaf ears. Even Regal tried to get out of AEW as soon as he could after he saw the backstage environment. If it was only Punk it be one thing, but I think he might just be the guy who voices the frustration a lot others are feeling but they don't want to rock the boat.
@@geneanthony3421 Punk even had an alt with Regal, and even if Regal had issues backstage, Regal didn't get into any fisticuffs with anyone even though he very well could have.
@@Billy-bc8pk I heard about the Regal thing and I definitely think Punk was out of line. As far as Regal goes, people need their job and some people are good at keeping their heads down. If you saw 10 kids get bullied in school and only one of them hits back, that doesn't make him the problem. He's just the one who fought back.
100% correct that Hangman should have been dealt with Immediately after that promo! That he was not spoke volumes and really gives credibility to Punk and others who say Tony has no leadership.
Question. What is the difference between The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson), "Hangman" Adam Page and Jack Perry? What makes these four so fascinating to Tony Khan, the he chose these four over CM Punk and pretty much over Cody Rhodes? By Tony Khan, keeping The Young Bucks, Adam Page and somewhat Jack Perry around, he is killing his business. Maybe Tony Khan can negotiate with Ohio Valley Wrestling by sending them their contacts to OVW.
Gotta be The Bucks being part of that small group that help found the company. Gotta think TK has (or thinks he has) a bond with them. It’s gonna cost him his company.
They give him more hugs. What you have to understand is TK wants friends. He wants to be friends with the wrestlers. If he feels like they are friends, then he don't care about anyone else. He is rich, so he doesn't care if CM Punk can make more money than one of his jobber buddies. He will defend the jobber. Cause money doesn't matter. He can't buy friends but if he throws enough money at people someone might act like his friend and that's what the Bucks did. Tk is a 40 year old man but this is how he's lived his whole life. Don't expect him to magically change when he is playing with wrestlers over football players.
@@CornBreadtm1 yeah I don’t know if I necessarily agree with that. I think that there’s a good possibility that TK is just a really good guy. Unfortunately like in real life, people are always gonna try and use you and that happens exponentially when you have that much money. I don’t think the Bucks are at all giving him more hugs, I think they’re full of **** and just looking out for their own best interests through Tony. I’m not gonna fault Tony Khan for being a good person. Should he be trying to be friends with the talent? Absolutely not. But I’m not gonna get on his case and say he’s this or that because of it.
I think partially it's due to the fact that Tony is a young internet wrestling mark. He's probably followed these guys for years in all there little indie shit they did, and he like it. He's a fan of the shitty style of product they provide. These guys were a flash in the pan like 10 years ago in the indies and also were one of the first indie guys to really get over on twitter and the internet before it kind of became the norm to do so. I"ve never liked the bucks, ever since they got into a "twitter war" with one of my trainers about 12 years ago or so. Disrespectful little pricks that have no respect for this business or the ones that paved the way for them to even have a job.
@@Inequities If TK wanted to be friends with the wrestlers. He shouldn't be the boss. It's as simple as that. He can be around just as much without taking a hands on approach. And can be as nice as he wants. He doesn't need to be the boss to come to shows, talk to the talent, even sit down in a room and have a smoke with them.
I know what it is like to work a job were you have to put the trust of your well being in the hands of others (military). If someone broke that trust over something as simple as a promo, I would not have blamed Punk for saying, "That's it I am not doing business with you."
Even after that promo , CM Punk was professional enough to go and have a match with a mediocre wrestler like hangman.Excusing hangman's behavior due to being young is silly plus he is not that young.
The wildest thing about the CM Punk AEW fiasco is, even up until this very moment, The Elite have thought they were getting the better of this exchange.
It only needed to happen once. The ratings are free falling. The death blow COULD come Wednesday if the backstage footage doesn’t prove to be whatever TK is hoping it shows. This company is in big trouble. And it started with Adam Page. This company was white hot before he did what he did.
WCW 2.0. It's the exact same scenario. Guaranteed contracts, show up when you feel like it, book your own angles. They even repeated the exact same scenario that wrestlers getting fed up and quitting to go back to WWE.
Except Punk could hear him fine since Hangman was right in his face. The reality is that Punk simply did not like that someone got the one-up on him on the mic and he had no response that would have kept him a babyface. The other thing was that everything Hangman said turned prophetic, and Punk literally proved him right. You know the best way to prove a liar wrong? By doing the opposite of what they say. Punk did not do that.
@@Billy-bc8pkthe EVPs decided Punk was a “cancer” (a bigger star then them) the moment he walked through the door. The plot to get rid of him and sabotage his run was there from the beginning that’s why Hang Maam unprofessionally went into business for himself and confronted Punk with the false rumors about Colt Mr Irrelevant Cabana
@@Billy-bc8pkand ur confirming that punk heard clearly what hangman said coz u have been to a packed arena with fans shouting and microphones echoing overlapping the voices and u were able to hear clearly is it?
@@levisamom5069 Dude, go watch the video. The crowd got practically dead-silent when Hangman was talking and even Tony could clearly hear Hangman as his body and face reactions are pretty obvious. Hangman was literally face to face with CM Punk. There was no microphones overlapping. Heck, watch some phone-captured footage of the promo if you don't believe me, you can still hear Hangman pretty clearly because he was speaking clearly and the crowd was silent. So yes, Punk absolutey did lie about the crowd making it where he couldn't hear, because the actual video footage proves otherwise.
While watching this originally, I thought it was completely counter intuitive. You had one babyface show another COMPLETE disrespect. The idea is always to build up your opponent so that when you win or lose YOU look better. Mox did the same kinda thing in his initial promo to Punk. It takes the steam out of the match. If this guy is such garbage, why should I care to watch you wrestle him?
I knew Adam page had bad character when he did that interview saying he didn’t need to take advice from anyone. That’s bull crap , you can always learn more and and evolve especially in a profession like pro wrestling
The only person's whose safety was at risk was Hangman, where CM Botch managed to botch every big spot in that match and could have injured Hangman. The difference is that Hangman is one of the safest workers in the business.
@@Billy-bc8pk so if someone goes into business for themselves on the microphone. You should automatically assume that they’re going to not go into business for themselves inside the ring, and try and punk somebody out by smacking them for real? Get real.
@@Inequities Give them a receipt and call it business. That's literally how it was in the territory days, how it was during the Attitude Era, and how is today. CM Soft should know that.
@@Billy-bc8pk you are all backwards my friend. CM punk is all about doing it like it was done in those days and yet you are backing the guy who clearly has no respect for the business and how it used to be.
More than that. Punk is a star. A MEGASTAR, in fact. The only people who move the needle like him in the industry are John Cena, the Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, lately, Cody Rhodes and maybe Roman Reigns. Guys like that make you money. Guys like Page cost you money.
This just proves CM Punk right. The more eyeballs the biggest draw(s) brings to the product, the more everyone benefits. That's what the business is predicated on. To go into business for yourself just to pop a few boys in the back is so childish and further proves they are not interested in progressing.
Voice work? His voice is very grating to the ears. At least for me. That's a gripe I have about a lot of these wrestling figures doing podcasts. Their voices. 😬
I would like to do a "Russo Challenge" where if Russo does a podcast without saying the word "bro" once we give his favorite charity $1,000 or something like that.
Punk lives rent free in everyone's puny minds at that crap company and will continue to do so. Their fans still chant his name and they couldn't care less about whoever else is out there.
I remember that promo. I thought it was great. As a fan, I had no idea it was off script until Punk told the world about it. A real professional would have kept that out of the public eye
I read somewhere that Adam Page was a substitute school teacher before he trained to be a pro wrestler. It shows. His mentality is more school teacher/high school drama than acting like a man and pro within his business. Of course, no real man comes out wearing pink Dolly Parton shirts with frilly little butterflies all over it so the whole “I’m cowboy sh*t tough” is all a lie. I remember at the time Page and Punk had this issue, the marks and diehard AEW fans blamed Punk. But Page started the drama by going off script. Every single incident with Punk in AEW happened because “The Elite” were jealous of Punk and they were trying to get him fired. Punk represented a threat to them because Punk is a real pro wrestler and star. The Elite are grade school idiots who aren’t stars and don’t respect anyone. Every single incident could’ve been avoided if Tony Khan had stepped up and made “The Elite” be accountable for their actions and made them apologize to Punk. Punk didn’t start anything and TK never exercised his authority as boss because he’s a joke. End of story.
I agree that Adam Page shouldn’t have gone into business for himself, but CM Punk also shouldn’t have went on his crazy rant at the All Out PPV media scrum and air all of his dirty laundry and get so personal especially about Colt Cabana while sitting right next to AEW Owner & President Tony Khan and then proceed to have a backstage fight along with Ace Steel (and his dog) against 3 EVPS of the company Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks. Also, Punk shouldn’t have put his hands on Jack Perry and shoved him and then put him in a front face lock during their backstage argument right in front of Tony, especially after he was suspended for the previous backstage altercation with Omega and the Bucks. So the fact of the matter is that all of those actions by Punk were also disrespectful and totally uncalled for.
But Punk had asked and asked Tony Khan to handle the actions of the individuals and he refused. CM Punk also didn't go to the EVPs..they went to his locker room. Punk is also from a different generation where he came up with a guy like the Undertaker as a locker room enforcer. Respect, in that business, is very important. Tony Khan, the Bucks ,Kenny and Cody developed and have encouraged an unhealthy atmosphere, especially with the younger wrestlers, where they dont have respect, forethought, or patience. Look at how much crap Sammy has gotten into to.
I'm so glad these host's see that punk was trying to help hangman and he did the complete opposite and went in for the business for himself. I'd be infuriated as hell also. What a waste all the way around. Punk tried but he had no back up support.
Punk, along with his “elite” brothers, just made them all unhireable by other wrestling companies aside from AEW. They better pray Tony Khan don’t stop throwing money at them.
If Page just said backstage, "dude I fucked up." Then Punk would have respected him. Yes there are "generational gaps", but the unwritten rule is to listen to the vets.
When Al Snow, Bubba Ray, Jim Cornette, Dutch Mantell, and Vince Russo all reach the same conclusion about something, I think we can safely call it a fact.
Where is Adam Page now? A forgotten about wrestler on a flailing show. Any guy that had a story with punk to this day they are benefitting MJF, Darby, Eddie Kingston. They were good workers anyway but it elevated them. Had Page kept his head, the company would have riding that Punk wave for months, instead Page and his friends derailed the company and to this day blame the other guy. That blame is all for them and when they try signing with WWE, those stories will follow them.
I don’t think they will try to go to WWE. They know they’ll have to actually work and not just play with their friends. So they will just try and milk TK for all he’s worth and then retire or go back to their indy mud shows.😂
I like hangman’s work in the ring. I have never been a punk fan but I appreciate that he can draw. To be honest I did not listen to this whole thing, but I think if both parties discussed it and agreed on it, then Page was in the wrong. He should of stuck to script and storyline for the sake of putting together a full story. On a unrelated side note because I was a wrestling fan of many years I almost spit out my coffee with how dramatic Russo was when talking about disrespecting the business. I know nothing about the business at all,but I know watch WCW and TNA it was train wreck. I think i could listen to Snow he is credible and paid his dues. I think Russo might have blacked out some years of his “active” wrestling career.
Okay. You guys were talking like Pepsiman is this big star, which admittedly he is. But what seems missed on you guys is at the time of this promo if I'm not mistaken, he was the world champion and you guys are acting like he is some green young boy.
When you watch Wrestlemania and how hot WWE is right now, how happy and prosperous WWE stars seemingly are... AEW guys must feel like sht now 😂 Ospreay what did you do!
Vinces ratings are so low every video recently is AL SNOW SAID "etc" at this point al should just do his own podcast and if he has one already, why has it not been promoted?
Hey al snow I don't know whether you will see this comment or not I have one of your sticker on my cupboard which I pasted in 2002 or 2003 it's still there intact perfectly..my first ever
Jack perry and Adam page couldn’t sell out a high school gym
They couldn't sell a free boat ride to someone on a deserted island
Couldn’t sell out a steak joint to a pack of wolves
Couldn't sell crack to a junkie
@@MrJjburgess11actually, this one he may be able to do. Maybe he already does 😂
@@AAAskeet Couldn't sell a country outhouse to a bunch of flies...well maybe they can, since they are both shit in the ring. Page is slightly less shit than Perry, but he's still shit.
Unfortunately there are too many people today who don't or can't understand this situation because they don't know anything about respect.
Foreal
Ditto
Well said.
But at the same time, did Punk show respect to Hangman or anyone else with a different vision than him creatively? We don't know. Remember his argument vs Jack Perry using glass was "let's not do dumb internet shit on TV". Did he have that mindset for every hardcore match/ street fight? Did he feel that way about lucha libre matches? Comedy segments? Maybe punk wasn't showing respect for all the styles on aew he didn't prefer, and unless you were backstage, none of us know for certain.
@@styles-omega-danielson7017 Holy dishonesty Batman. Your glass argument makes no sense since there were 4 people that asked Jack not to do it and then Tony asked help from Punk to go talk to Perry about it. Now even if your argument made sense... you are talking about something that happened a year after the page promo lol. Now you're stretching a false narrative spawned from that non sense to imply Punk was going around telling all the boys how to be wrestlers and because of that Page had every right to shoot on punk. There was no beef with Page and Punk prior to the promo - the beef was Page marking out on false rumors that he had Cabana fired. Like dude wtf you're fake news..
AEW fans ladies and gents. 😂😂😂😂 "DiD PuNk PrAisE tHe DeVil anD eAT BabiES? We dOn'T KNoW!".
The moment Hangman basically said that he doesn't need to listen to the vets' advice, I knew not to trust him.
That's like half their roster with that attitude. Look at the guys that have passed through... Jake Roberts, Regal, Arn Anderson, etc... Tony paraded them out in nothing roles instead of using them to build some sort of training system because he knows his roster's a bunch of children that aren't going to listen to anyone. I would have taken veteran names like that and built an AEW version of the Performance Center to make my talent better.
They wanted to get rid of Punk from day one. I just can’t imagine TK letting these losers manipulate him
Considering tony hired punk as his advisor, and that punk didn't like the IWC style wrestling that the elite were aiming for, I can see why the bucks wanted punk gone. They knew punk would end up telling Tony the bucks shit ain't the makings of wrestling business sense
Kahn only signed Punk because of ratings, he never understood exactly what he had, plus yes allowing people to cut there own promos is much better but you still have to be a leader and make sure there are promos don't go away from the storyline.
Tony Khan is a rich kid playing with action figures. He's a fucking joke
It’s like siding with the Headbangers over Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Tony is a loser himself despite the money he has
Adam page is a complete clown
Finally someone said it. Thank you my friend. Been saying for a while the only reason he's where he's at is because the Bucks brought him into Bullet Club back in the day.
Been saying it for years now. Page isn't all that whatsoever. If he leaves AEW and tries to go to WWE, they won't hire him because of the Punk promo. Going off-script like that is a huge nope for WWE. Plus, he can't hold a candle to most of the other wrestlers on the roster, including NXT. Meltzer's 5-star ratings mean diddly-shit, always have.
Agreed.
I couldn't like Adam Page no matter how hard I tried, his championshi run was Meh ASF and the neckbeards in the IWC wanted it "you deserrrve it!!" that made me cringe
AEW is full of clowns, so he's right at home along with Jack Perry
What Al said about Punk not being able to trust Page with his body if he can't trust him to not go into business for himself is so true. Remember, Page chipped Punk's tooth during their match, and didn't even apologize or try to talk to him after that. And the only receipt Page got was being called out by Punk, only to turn it into some goofy internet thing with him and his buddies dry humping backstage while Punk called him out. 😒
Punk needs to retire… too soft, and brittle to wrestle anymore…. Always bitching about getting hurt. Maybe the issue is his old skinny fat body
Punk went into business for himself multiple times by burying Hangman on live TV on MULTIPLE occasions after their feud was done. Why was that okay but some throwaway line by Hangman was somehow the end of the world for Punk? Sounds like Punk just has a super fragile ego.
@@Billy-bc8pkhe did the one time. The only other time was after Collision went off air, so that wasn’t “live tv”. Page also didn’t just say one “throwaway line”, he went COMPLETELY off script, thus ruining the entire segment because they couldn’t do anything they agreed on. That was the go home show for the PPV. How is that not a huge deal? How is that not something that should require massive punishment (only to not get any of it)? The receipt doesn’t even come close to how utterly disrespectful that was.
At the point Punk “went into business for himself” (which, again, was only the one time when he first came back) it was fair game.
@Billy-bc8pk Naw, that was Punk trying to do what's best for business. He tried reaching out to Adam Page and The Bucks because he knew working with them with all that heat was $$$. But like Punk said AEW isn't about making $.
@@Billy-bc8pk Man, post a link to all of this for me. Because there are channels that cover people's entire runs in wrestling promotions on this thing called UA-cam, they also have interviews and stuff there too. You Punk haters keep saying that Punk did this and that but, why isn't there any evidence of this? Y'all just make shit up 🤣😂 it's weird.
Seems like people backstage were hell bent on sabotaging his run from the start. They gaslit Punk by poking the bear and got the reactions out of him that they wanted
I think that is exactly what they were trying to do. They wanted punk out and they planned this out from the get-go to get him to blow up or whatever else it would take to have him quit. Very sad that they did that to their main draw.
@@jdmintegradp Its funny cause Punk made tons of real friends in AEW. He was a mentor to Jade Cargill and the respect they share is beautiful.
@@TheKarenWarsHe made friends with the people who were serious about doing and getting better and not just playing around with each other.
Page thought the pipe bomb was cm punk going off script for real like a mark 😂
He had a script, and he would just go slightly off at times...
You take the script and tweak it slightly, that is all there is to it
Not you throw the entire script away and do wahtever you want...
CM Punk always knew to relate it to the match they setting up and the story they were telling
Adam Page was basically starting his own story before the major PPV
@@calebmccarthy454 well. I mean. If we want to be anal about things Punk never really did scripts. He did what everyone before scripting in wrestling did. Bullet points. You still go over the topics. You may have some lines planned word for word. But it’s a collaboration on the concept and topic and the rest is improvised which isn’t necessarily a script.
I don't get how so many people don't understand this. It's really this simple.
I think AEW apologists are in disbelief that Page, Perry & the Buck's are as stupid as Punk is saying. For his claims to be true, it would mean that these guys they cheer for on TV are legitimately dumb-asses. I think people want AEW to succeed and it blinds them.
Because there kids and will never grow up...until someone checks them but then they'll just piss and moan and cry
@@bloodeagle6458😂truu
@@bloodeagle6458do you think when Punk checked Perry at All In, Perry learned from that? 🤔
@@MegaFinalRound for like a week then thay gave him a job in njpw and went back to being a selfish entitled prick
I've never been a Punk fan. He just doesn't "click" with me for various reasons. That said, I do respect his work and he was 110% in the right here and made the right decision to do whatever he could to GTFO of that dysfunctional place. If someone like me who's never stepped foot in a wrestling ring and never will can see this, how clueless must those AEW guys be?
Punk was largely right. Guaranteed contracts and picking your own schedule has ruined the business - particularly AEW. Look, that's great if you're an employee but horrible for the quality of the product on TV. As we can see, AEW is a prime example of that.
AEW is where wrestlers go when they don't want to work under a structure that's about putting butts on the seats. It's about them doing whatever they want - good or bad. Mostly bad.
and they should go out of business. sorry but i only care about my time and entertainment. its on the workers and employers to figure out how to entertain us and get our money will staying healthy. their well being isn’t my concern. so if you coddle workers and that means im not entertained im going to tune out. and i’ll tell everyone i know to avoid your mud show product.
Because Khan has let both Page and Perry think they are somehow in the same league as Punk in terms of star power.
They are very much mistaken.
It's interesting that you say this. Yes, I agree with you 100%.
But when you read the word salad Dave Meltzer and outlets like Whatculture regurgitates, then you are force fed this Japan = great narrative. I legit once saw one of their writers make the case that a guy like Okada has an aura bigger than Brock Lesnar - which is obviously hogwash of course.
The result is that these guys in the bubble forget how big WWE is and how universally their stars are known. It's not Omega, Naito or Ospreay on the Late Show. But because these guys are in the bubble, they feel that they get to look down on the WWE.
So no, I don't think Page and Perry had any idea just how big a star Punk is. Yes, I hundred percent think they thought themselves on a level with him. Yes, you are right, they are dead dead wrong.
Adam Page ruined his own career the moment he came out with fluffy pink butterfly’s on his jeans
And the Tesla with bullhorns
Also, he's a woke mark. Remember when he attacked Kane over Kane's based politics?
Guy drank another dudes blood, he's an imbecile
A Two Snaps and a Circle Moment
I can only imagine what his blood tests say....
"An opinion is the lowest form of human knowledge"
-Al Snow
Damn.
"The only source of knowledge is experience." -- A. Einstein
He’s right
It's a decent quote, but I'd also say that opinion doesn't really count as knowledge. Not all opinions contain any knowledge haha
So much bullshit simply because a veteran wanted to help a company grow and gave advice to a bunch of prima donnas that think they know more than people who have drawn money.
can u blame the indie wrestlers tho ,they never were told what to do and did what they wanted or basicly didnt work, that has always ben their mentality,they dont ahve respect for anyoone becasue they dont need to have it as they do what they want and dont need to respect anyone to work
@@wingedhussar1453. Exactly. And that’s what NXT was partially designed for, was to wash ‘indie stink’ off of some of the talent. AEW simply lets the indie stay indie.
@@philanderphillips2309 true to teach them proper bussines equities
Why cant ya'll accept that they didnt want his advice? He blew his last WWE and UFC run. I wouldnt have listened to him either.
@xxreyoxx it's not about wanting it but out of respect for who he is they have to listen to his advice without looking like disrespectful pricks
This just goes to show that there has to be a proper boss behind the scenes. End of.
When VKM was in charge no matter how good or bad it was if someone went out to the ring and went into business for themselves - that’s them done, no more push and you’re going to take a your punishment out in the ring.
Also this is where having talent who’ve spent time under Vince’s incredibly tight scripting or scheduling means that they know where the line is.
HHH is showing that you can give talent creative license but ultimately it has to be approved.
TK is allowing his talent to do what they want, when they want. As Punk said he's a good guy but just isn't cut out to be that ultimate authority figure, if he was then Punk wouldn't have been allowed to say what he said at All Out, VKM, HHH would have shut that down immediately.
End of what?
Discussion, @@TL2354. End of Discussion.
@@TL2354 end of discussion.
Lmao Vince was hosting casting couch videos
@@THE.T.R.U.T.H that goes without saying but the fact is that talent couldn’t go into business for themselves and get away with it, not when Vince was in charge.
Some of this is reminiscent of the Rock and John Cena’s build to Wrestlemania a few years ago,‘when Cena called out the Rock for having written notes on his arm. Rock had no idea that Cena was going to use that in a promo, so when Cena went and used it, Rock was surprised and visibly angry. John went into business for himself without asking Dwayne first, and it had consequences. It caused the Rock to win the Mania match instead of Cena, who was supposed to win.
You’re supposed to trust your coworkers in wrestling. When that trust is broken, it ruins business.
when you can get Eric Bischoff, Vince Russo, and Jim Cornette to agree on something you know tony clown done messed up
I don't care about Jack Perry, but the guy who should have been punished was Adam Page. He set everything in motion. He was also a poor champion who risked hurting their biggest draw right before he won the belt. He never got punished. That's on TK as well. That's what set everything in motion. If he would have been suspended or something and was forced to sit down with Punk and squash it, it probably wouldn't have gone nearly as badly.
Page was the only one who invigorated their match because Punk didn't care. Punk was there for the payday and to botch the entire match from start to finish, grab the belt, and bury talent along the way, which is precisely what he did. Adam Page was the only one who made the fight at the PPV seem like it had some sort of stakes. Funny how Page trying to do something to bolster business is seen as something punish worthy, but Punk going into business for himself (burying the locker room, burying the roster, burying Page multiple times live on air post-feud) is always justified by CM Punk's fans. You can dislike Page all you want, but the reality is that CM Punk is a giant hypocrite.
@@Billy-bc8pk Punk had a pretty good feud with MJF right before he went against Page, but he was probably fed up with the backstage environment by the time the Page feud happened.
Some people have said that Punk tried to help out the young guys in AEW, but his advise fell on deaf ears.
Even Regal tried to get out of AEW as soon as he could after he saw the backstage environment.
If it was only Punk it be one thing, but I think he might just be the guy who voices the frustration a lot others are feeling but they don't want to rock the boat.
@@geneanthony3421 Punk even had an alt with Regal, and even if Regal had issues backstage, Regal didn't get into any fisticuffs with anyone even though he very well could have.
@@Billy-bc8pk I heard about the Regal thing and I definitely think Punk was out of line.
As far as Regal goes, people need their job and some people are good at keeping their heads down. If you saw 10 kids get bullied in school and only one of them hits back, that doesn't make him the problem. He's just the one who fought back.
100% correct that Hangman should have been dealt with Immediately after that promo! That he was not spoke volumes and really gives credibility to Punk and others who say Tony has no leadership.
None of those kids over there are ever going to be held accountable for anything. They are going to keep blaming Punk for everything
Adam Page sucker punched Punk with that promo, because he knows Punk would have destroyed him if he 100% knew what was going on.
Question. What is the difference between The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson), "Hangman" Adam Page and Jack Perry? What makes these four so fascinating to Tony Khan, the he chose these four over CM Punk and pretty much over Cody Rhodes?
By Tony Khan, keeping The Young Bucks, Adam Page and somewhat Jack Perry around, he is killing his business. Maybe Tony Khan can negotiate with Ohio Valley Wrestling by sending them their contacts to OVW.
Gotta be The Bucks being part of that small group that help found the company. Gotta think TK has (or thinks he has) a bond with them. It’s gonna cost him his company.
They give him more hugs. What you have to understand is TK wants friends. He wants to be friends with the wrestlers. If he feels like they are friends, then he don't care about anyone else. He is rich, so he doesn't care if CM Punk can make more money than one of his jobber buddies. He will defend the jobber. Cause money doesn't matter. He can't buy friends but if he throws enough money at people someone might act like his friend and that's what the Bucks did.
Tk is a 40 year old man but this is how he's lived his whole life. Don't expect him to magically change when he is playing with wrestlers over football players.
@@CornBreadtm1 yeah I don’t know if I necessarily agree with that. I think that there’s a good possibility that TK is just a really good guy. Unfortunately like in real life, people are always gonna try and use you and that happens exponentially when you have that much money. I don’t think the Bucks are at all giving him more hugs, I think they’re full of **** and just looking out for their own best interests through Tony. I’m not gonna fault Tony Khan for being a good person. Should he be trying to be friends with the talent? Absolutely not. But I’m not gonna get on his case and say he’s this or that because of it.
I think partially it's due to the fact that Tony is a young internet wrestling mark. He's probably followed these guys for years in all there little indie shit they did, and he like it. He's a fan of the shitty style of product they provide. These guys were a flash in the pan like 10 years ago in the indies and also were one of the first indie guys to really get over on twitter and the internet before it kind of became the norm to do so. I"ve never liked the bucks, ever since they got into a "twitter war" with one of my trainers about 12 years ago or so. Disrespectful little pricks that have no respect for this business or the ones that paved the way for them to even have a job.
@@Inequities If TK wanted to be friends with the wrestlers. He shouldn't be the boss. It's as simple as that. He can be around just as much without taking a hands on approach. And can be as nice as he wants.
He doesn't need to be the boss to come to shows, talk to the talent, even sit down in a room and have a smoke with them.
I know what it is like to work a job were you have to put the trust of your well being in the hands of others (military). If someone broke that trust over something as simple as a promo, I would not have blamed Punk for saying, "That's it I am not doing business with you."
Even after that promo , CM Punk was professional enough to go and have a match with a mediocre wrestler like hangman.Excusing hangman's behavior due to being young is silly plus he is not that young.
The wildest thing about the CM Punk AEW fiasco is, even up until this very moment, The Elite have thought they were getting the better of this exchange.
On the bright side, if this happens again they won't have to worry about focusing against a capacity crowd.
It only needed to happen once. The ratings are free falling. The death blow COULD come Wednesday if the backstage footage doesn’t prove to be whatever TK is hoping it shows. This company is in big trouble. And it started with Adam Page. This company was white hot before he did what he did.
AEW's management is worse than TNA's.
WCW 2.0. It's the exact same scenario. Guaranteed contracts, show up when you feel like it, book your own angles. They even repeated the exact same scenario that wrestlers getting fed up and quitting to go back to WWE.
@@ibrohiemwcw actually was a legit competitor to wwe at one point aew trying so hard and still suck
The crowd was so loud punk couldnt hear him. Now without punk THERE IS NO CROWD.
Except Punk could hear him fine since Hangman was right in his face. The reality is that Punk simply did not like that someone got the one-up on him on the mic and he had no response that would have kept him a babyface. The other thing was that everything Hangman said turned prophetic, and Punk literally proved him right. You know the best way to prove a liar wrong? By doing the opposite of what they say. Punk did not do that.
@@Billy-bc8pkthe EVPs decided Punk was a “cancer” (a bigger star then them) the moment he walked through the door. The plot to get rid of him and sabotage his run was there from the beginning that’s why Hang Maam unprofessionally went into business for himself and confronted Punk with the false rumors about Colt Mr Irrelevant Cabana
@@catwheelerfriendship over business. That's why AEW is losing.
@@Billy-bc8pkand ur confirming that punk heard clearly what hangman said coz u have been to a packed arena with fans shouting and microphones echoing overlapping the voices and u were able to hear clearly is it?
@@levisamom5069 Dude, go watch the video. The crowd got practically dead-silent when Hangman was talking and even Tony could clearly hear Hangman as his body and face reactions are pretty obvious. Hangman was literally face to face with CM Punk. There was no microphones overlapping. Heck, watch some phone-captured footage of the promo if you don't believe me, you can still hear Hangman pretty clearly because he was speaking clearly and the crowd was silent. So yes, Punk absolutey did lie about the crowd making it where he couldn't hear, because the actual video footage proves otherwise.
While watching this originally, I thought it was completely counter intuitive. You had one babyface show another COMPLETE disrespect. The idea is always to build up your opponent so that when you win or lose YOU look better. Mox did the same kinda thing in his initial promo to Punk. It takes the steam out of the match. If this guy is such garbage, why should I care to watch you wrestle him?
Yeah saving AEW from Punk and ratings and ticket sales thank you Hangman
I knew Adam page had bad character when he did that interview saying he didn’t need to take advice from anyone. That’s bull crap , you can always learn more and and evolve especially in a profession like pro wrestling
Punk still showed incredible ability to be professional, as he went out there and wrestled that moron (thus putting his own safety at risk).
And then the dude broke his foot by jumping in the crowd after winning the title. Punk is his own safety risk.
The only person's whose safety was at risk was Hangman, where CM Botch managed to botch every big spot in that match and could have injured Hangman. The difference is that Hangman is one of the safest workers in the business.
@@Billy-bc8pk so if someone goes into business for themselves on the microphone. You should automatically assume that they’re going to not go into business for themselves inside the ring, and try and punk somebody out by smacking them for real? Get real.
@@Inequities Give them a receipt and call it business. That's literally how it was in the territory days, how it was during the Attitude Era, and how is today. CM Soft should know that.
@@Billy-bc8pk you are all backwards my friend. CM punk is all about doing it like it was done in those days and yet you are backing the guy who clearly has no respect for the business and how it used to be.
No one knows who Hangman Page besides the internet marks. Everyone knows who Punk is. The man is a legend..
More than that. Punk is a star. A MEGASTAR, in fact. The only people who move the needle like him in the industry are John Cena, the Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, lately, Cody Rhodes and maybe Roman Reigns.
Guys like that make you money.
Guys like Page cost you money.
Hang Man Page is nowhere in the same star power as CM punk. Guy is sour and a sore loser.
This just proves CM Punk right. The more eyeballs the biggest draw(s) brings to the product, the more everyone benefits. That's what the business is predicated on. To go into business for yourself just to pop a few boys in the back is so childish and further proves they are not interested in progressing.
I'm happy to sit through some Russo bro's to hear some AL Snow, he's SO good and SO funny.
aew needs spemone like al snow as its agent and lead supervisor
Really happy Al’s voice is sounding much better and I wish him better health in the future
It isnt though
@@djdarq6311 that’s too bad. Hes always been a good dude and never came off like a lot of wrestlers do. Damn we need to start donations
He even chopped him in the face and chipped his tooth during the match.
💯 with Al Snow
Page chopped to Punk mouth must have been on purpose😂😂😂
Is Al secretly a transformer? That voice should be used for voice acting work.
Wrestling with Megatron
They caught Al after a nap, his voice is a little grumbly.
He's a robot in disguise
Snowtron
Voice work? His voice is very grating to the ears. At least for me. That's a gripe I have about a lot of these wrestling figures doing podcasts. Their voices. 😬
I had to shut this down after the 4th “BRO”
Hangman should have told Punk when they sit down and talk it was a problem!!! That shows you Hangman isn’t a real man!!
Vince, how do you feel about TK announcing to air the Punk & Perry fight footage from Wembley on Dynamite bro?
I would like to do a "Russo Challenge" where if Russo does a podcast without saying the word "bro" once we give his favorite charity $1,000 or something like that.
Ppl that dont understand the situation are prob just as disrespectful in life as the bucks + page are
Jim Cornette would probably have a conniption fit if somebody were to show him this clip.
You know that AEW is fucked when Russo, Bischoff and Cornette agree on something 😂
Al Snow💯👍
Wtf is wrong with Al Snow's voice?
Snow is spot on you couldn't trust hangman in a match after that one wrong move and your neck is snapped goodbye career
You had the EVPS on one side in Dynamite and CM PUNK on the other with Collision. Is there really a contest here?
WHY IS AL STARTING TO SOUND LIKE KANE FROM 97? 😂
Punk lives rent free in everyone's puny minds at that crap company and will continue to do so. Their fans still chant his name and they couldn't care less about whoever else is out there.
I remember that promo. I thought it was great. As a fan, I had no idea it was off script until Punk told the world about it. A real professional would have kept that out of the public eye
Al is great to listen to
I read somewhere that Adam Page was a substitute school teacher before he trained to be a pro wrestler. It shows. His mentality is more school teacher/high school drama than acting like a man and pro within his business. Of course, no real man comes out wearing pink Dolly Parton shirts with frilly little butterflies all over it so the whole “I’m cowboy sh*t tough” is all a lie. I remember at the time Page and Punk had this issue, the marks and diehard AEW fans blamed Punk. But Page started the drama by going off script. Every single incident with Punk in AEW happened because “The Elite” were jealous of Punk and they were trying to get him fired. Punk represented a threat to them because Punk is a real pro wrestler and star. The Elite are grade school idiots who aren’t stars and don’t respect anyone. Every single incident could’ve been avoided if Tony Khan had stepped up and made “The Elite” be accountable for their actions and made them apologize to Punk. Punk didn’t start anything and TK never exercised his authority as boss because he’s a joke. End of story.
Al has A great point I cannot believe Punk actually wrestled this match
Am i beginning to like Vince Russo again?
Vince " Bro-ser Bro-dy" Russo
No disrespect to al snow hes a legend to me imo but i wish he would get a better mic. Its hard hearing him sometimes. Vince russo mic is perfect.
He should grab a non-blurry camera while he’s at the store
Where the pros are the pros
@@corporatemcmahon2815 😂😂😂
What happened to Al’s voice the last couple years? Does he have throat problems?
@@corporatemcmahon2815 lmao
shout out to Jeff Lane with the N7 hat!
I agree that Adam Page shouldn’t have gone into business for himself, but CM Punk also shouldn’t have went on his crazy rant at the All Out PPV media scrum and air all of his dirty laundry and get so personal especially about Colt Cabana while sitting right next to AEW Owner & President Tony Khan and then proceed to have a backstage fight along with Ace Steel (and his dog) against 3 EVPS of the company Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks. Also, Punk shouldn’t have put his hands on Jack Perry and shoved him and then put him in a front face lock during their backstage argument right in front of Tony, especially after he was suspended for the previous backstage altercation with Omega and the Bucks. So the fact of the matter is that all of those actions by Punk were also disrespectful and totally uncalled for.
But Punk had asked and asked Tony Khan to handle the actions of the individuals and he refused. CM Punk also didn't go to the EVPs..they went to his locker room. Punk is also from a different generation where he came up with a guy like the Undertaker as a locker room enforcer. Respect, in that business, is very important. Tony Khan, the Bucks ,Kenny and Cody developed and have encouraged an unhealthy atmosphere, especially with the younger wrestlers, where they dont have respect, forethought, or patience. Look at how much crap Sammy has gotten into to.
I'm so glad these host's see that punk was trying to help hangman and he did the complete opposite and went in for the business for himself. I'd be infuriated as hell also. What a waste all the way around. Punk tried but he had no back up support.
Notice though how CM Punk is always the center of drama.
According to another interview Punk gave, Hangman would go on to chip Punk's tooth in that match so Al's comment about trust was right on target!
Punk, along with his “elite” brothers, just made them all unhireable by other wrestling companies aside from AEW. They better pray Tony Khan don’t stop throwing money at them.
Is that why WWE signed him almost immediately?
@@thestoneshooter1151 oh so I didn't see punk at survivor series and last night mania. Your a goof
@@brokenfunnibones I deleted my comment. I thought you were talking about WWE wanting to sign the bucks immediately. I just woke up lol. My apologies.
@@thestoneshooter1151 They did offer the Bucks and Kenny deals, though.
@@Billy-bc8pk ya they did. But that ship has sailed now though.
If Page just said backstage, "dude I fucked up." Then Punk would have respected him. Yes there are "generational gaps", but the unwritten rule is to listen to the vets.
When Al Snow, Bubba Ray, Jim Cornette, Dutch Mantell, and Vince Russo all reach the same conclusion about something, I think we can safely call it a fact.
Double standard, they can mess around and fool the audience, but the minute they do it to each other, there is a problem.
Bro! Bro bro bro! Bro!
I liked Hangman originally but his title run was just so underwhelming and his lack of professionalism I went off the guy
6:00 this whole business of putting someone over. The shoe is rarely on the other foot.
Russo needs to stop saying bro.
Bro?
....bro
Can Al snow have his own channel
Where is Adam Page now? A forgotten about wrestler on a flailing show. Any guy that had a story with punk to this day they are benefitting MJF, Darby, Eddie Kingston. They were good workers anyway but it elevated them. Had Page kept his head, the company would have riding that Punk wave for months, instead Page and his friends derailed the company and to this day blame the other guy. That blame is all for them and when they try signing with WWE, those stories will follow them.
I don’t think they will try to go to WWE. They know they’ll have to actually work and not just play with their friends. So they will just try and milk TK for all he’s worth and then retire or go back to their indy mud shows.😂
Where the pros are the pros, bros.
It's like the old shmos vs pros show, except aew brotality
Let's play a drinking game. Every time Russo says "bro", you have to take a shot!
Loser! I already came up with this game 6 months ago, and have already had 2 liver transplants.
Recipe for alcohol poisoning
I like hangman’s work in the ring. I have never been a punk fan but I appreciate that he can draw. To be honest I did not listen to this whole thing, but I think if both parties discussed it and agreed on it, then Page was in the wrong. He should of stuck to script and storyline for the sake of putting together a full story. On a unrelated side note because I was a wrestling fan of many years I almost spit out my coffee with how dramatic Russo was when talking about disrespecting the business. I know nothing about the business at all,but I know watch WCW and TNA it was train wreck. I think i could listen to Snow he is credible and paid his dues. I think Russo might have blacked out some years of his “active” wrestling career.
It was all over Punk face when the promo happened. He looked blind sided and wheels turning for a response.
Al Snow would take Hangman Page
First time listening to this show. Drink a shot each time the word “bro,” was used.
One day Vincent will get a word in
I highly doubt CM Punk said to Page what was that bro.
Okay. You guys were talking like Pepsiman is this big star, which admittedly he is. But what seems missed on you guys is at the time of this promo if I'm not mistaken, he was the world champion and you guys are acting like he is some green young boy.
Would you rather watch Hangman vs Jack Perry or Cm punk vs Cody Rhodes , how much you paying for each ☝️
I went into business for myself listening to this.
He had it coming.
When you watch Wrestlemania and how hot WWE is right now, how happy and prosperous WWE stars seemingly are... AEW guys must feel like sht now 😂
Ospreay what did you do!
Page was dead as a champion. He wasn’t drawing and never got any interest before or after Punk. Now he’s done and Punk is making millions in WWE.
Didn't Shawn "do it" for Brett night after night in dark matches back in the mid 90's? Leave that one out guys?
I gotta say the kiss shirt V russo is wearing is Cool as Sh*t !! 👍🏽💯‼️ Nice
So Hangman hanged himself? 😂
And drove the first nail in AEW's coffin.
Hangman went into business for workers' rights!!!
Vinces ratings are so low every video recently is AL SNOW SAID "etc" at this point al should just do his own podcast and if he has one already, why has it not been promoted?
I haven't taken Adam Page seriously ever since he came out with a tesla with horns on it . Mr Cowboy . What a joke
Hey al snow I don't know whether you will see this comment or not I have one of your sticker on my cupboard which I pasted in 2002 or 2003 it's still there intact perfectly..my first ever
But it was fine when Punk brought up Jeff Hardy's wellness policy violations unscripted, huh?