'When they go to South Africa, they are going to have to do the same again' - Ferris
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- Опубліковано 16 бер 2024
- The RTÉ Rugby panel of Fiona Coghlan, Stephen Ferris and Jamie Heaslip review Ireland's 2024 Six Nations championship win.
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SA here, so excited to watch the series, going to be huge games. May the best team win 👍🏻🔥
As long as the best team in SA
And the best team is the Boks. Thank you
As an Irishman, it's the most excited I've been for a game since the last time Ireland and South Africa played, hopefully the tour lives up to the expectation
@@uganrajoo8379 nope Ireland will be playing new Springboks, most were last year under 20, but good practice for the young boks
Rassie might have said he doesn't care so much about win percentage, but he also said they have to fix the record against Ireland. There will be no experimenting. The Ireland series will be taken very, very seriously.
Ok he normally means what he stays, so Ireland would have to be brilliant, and not land up like the all black just before the world cup, with a record score against the all Blacks, don't think the all black knew what hit them , they we're inaliated
There is also only one country to have ever beaten the boks in a test match series in SA.
@@mthabitXand that took them 68 years
Problem with Ireland is that they keep playing the same matchday squad week in and week out. How and when they will start building depth will be key to the progress. South Africa can basically put out 2 teams of very similar strength which is why they are such a good tournament team
Not true. South Africas 2nd team would be crucified by Irelands first team. Not even close. Ireland are blooding players into key positions. 10, 15 and wings as well as some forwards. It will keep happening while keeping the winning momentum.
@@LeMerch To be fair the only reason there is new blood on the wing and FB is because of injury. If Hansen and Keenan were fit, they would have been playing every game. Good for Ireland in the long term but lets not pretend this was planned. IMO Centre and scrumhalf are bigger concerns given the age profile of starters and replacements.
@@LeMerch you know what the Boks first and second teams are ?
Glad to hear that because Rassie and co don't .
Pollard or Libbock
Faff or reinach
De Allende or esterterhuizen
Am or Kriel
Vermuelen , wiese , Roos , Louw at 8
Siya kolisi and every single position is under jeapordy as Rassie wants a local player as captain
The Boks can pick 3 teams
Most of the public don't agree with most of the positions
But Rassie gets the job done
Locks
Etsebeth . RG snyman . Jean Klein . Mostert and others in urc knocking on the door .
Think get my drift
Etsebeth and Marx the only 2 automatic starters
@@LeMerch Crucified??
You really believe that?
I'd say 3 teams not just 2. South Africa is a rugby factory. (with no electricity and sometimes no running water).
As a South African, Ireland is my favourite team after the springboks, this is going to be a brilliant tour, can’t wait!!
We’ve got the Springboks. We don’t need a second favourite.
@@user-mi1oi9gv3w of course we do, springboks aren’t always playing in every game that gets played, nothing wrong with liking other teams as well even though the springboks will always be the team I love
@@silvertongue3003No, you haven’t been raised very well. If you’re supporting a Six Nations team it has to be Italy. You can’t support a rival
@@silvertongue3003I tried that line, verbatim, with my wife when I looked at another woman and let’s just say…I’m on my second marriage
@@user-mi1oi9gv3w 😂🤣
Well done to the brave young lad for singing the anthem with courage and passion. Excellent!!!
You will have to be a very good team to beat South Africa in South Africa
As somebody with an Anglo-South African heritage, I really look forward to the Irish tour. A great team. Should be a wonderful tour.
Ireland have never won a tournament that the Boks have played in. Let that sink in...
Never even made it out the quarter finals
But Ireland have beaten the boks numerous times, now let that sink in !
@@aughalough1 so Ireland have won some battles. How many wars they got?
@@daggaboom, Some celebrate and some excoriate connections with the British Empire.
@aughalough1 Yeah, Ireland have an overall 32% win record against the Boks and a 10% win record in South Africa. How about you write that on a postit and stick it in Ireland's trophy cabinet?
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We as South Africans loves competition. This series against Ireland and All Blacks is the best to test the best team currently in the world of rugby
When did Rassie say he doesn't care about win percentage
EDIT: he said it very recently in a press conference
Hi did. Recently in response to consistency
He has said it in 2018 too. He says it a lot.
Ireland will have to bring their A game in South Africa. You will be tested to the limits and will be taken to a dark place. You will face the b2b world champs and thats a pretty tall order.
'and taken to a dark place. Mate you haven't even beaten us in the world cup, sit down.
definitely they're going to a dark place with all that load shedding fella
@@nickybutt9733Watching too much TV.
@@LeMerch i am actually sitting down mate !!you're talking about 4 time wcup winners not just 6 nations and here you are thinking Ireland has achieved greatness. You haven't achieved anything yet. The Boks are the only team that can make it a 3 peat come 2027. You're cabinet only contain small 6 nations cups. What's the ultimate?. Make it out of the quarters otherwise you're carrying the chokers tag.
@@nickybutt9733 oh Yea!! That won't affect the Boks. Its in the history books you played more wcups than SA and sadly we sitting with 4 cups and you.....ZIP00000000
Should be a banger of a tour when they come in June.
Ireland won 6 nations and the way people are talking, you'd swear we didn't.
It's actually quite unfair on your squad.
Especially after the England game, everyone thinks it deserves applause 🇿🇦
And the way the Irish are talking, you'd think they won the world cup.
@@mjribes huh?
@@RazorMouth What language would you like me to translate that into?
Because Irish now have to face 4 time current world champions at home where Ireland has only won 1game out of 9.
SA V Ireland is the ultimate clash of supporter egos
Atleast ours is justified where the hell are the Irish getting it from.
Springboks vs half south African team half Irish team🤣
The Irish rugby team have been going thru a golden patch so their supporters,understandably ,, are in a fizz about their greatness . It’s good they are a top team . How long it lasts will tell if they are a great team .
Stevie Mulrooneys 'Irelands Call' was my highlight of the tournament, such a polite young man but he belted that song out, Ireland missed a trick by not signing him up for every home game.
what's the name of the song playing at the end ?
Well done Ireland 🍀 There needs to be a bit of a shake up in the squad. I think Farrell will make a good few changes for SA. Some t of these lads have a lot of milage done. The pack will need to be freshened up for sure.
We were blessed it was only Scotland on last day. Any other team would've rolled us over, we were bad by Irelands high standards.
I like Fiona, she stays in the present, it's a time for celebration, let Andy and the staff focus on the summer.
Facing South Africa should create massive building blocks.
Congratulations Ireland Rugby 🇮🇪💚☘
Ireland plays the same team over and over, peak at the wrong time and end up being fatigued 😢! Respect to them though
Ireland didn't play badly against England, England played well and deserved the victory.
I agree 100%. Funny when they(Ireland) gets beaten they are always never at their best. All excuses.They got steam rolled by England.
Stream rolled by a last minute dropped goal kick to win by 1 point. Hmmm! I think you need a dictionary sham😅
@@waynerockman1242 Steam rolled is taking it a bit far. Both teams played Really well, Ireland just didn't need the negative criticism
@@TheMsyZa if England did not come out all guns blazing like they did the outcome could've been different. England was on fire hence Ireland was steam rolled from the outset till the final whistle.
Your taking bollix @@waynerockman1242
Playing in South Africa, especially at altitude will be difficult, but the Springboks would not have had any playing time together. Plus the Springboks have not beaten Ireland in the recent past. For this to be a successful tour for the Boks they must win both tests. If Ireland wins only one, the bragging rights remain with them.
what bragging rights? drawing a series is nothing to brag about,
Hmmm I dunno. Pretty amazing how they won in October. They can pretty much ride on that til the next world cup. Does it really matter who wins in between the big show?
@@Natedawg38 The last time the Springboks won against Ireland was in 2016. The Boks have no bragging tights over Ireland. They won the RWC twice during that time and have lost three in a row against the Irish.
daisysupersdog2814.. Bragging right for Ireland winning Boks since 2016 is soooo cute.. Ireland beat every one between WC and have bragging right but come WC they get booted out of WC. Keep dreaming about the biggest stage as Focus is always on the bigger picture.
@@chrisdutoit8843t
I laugh at those who say SA’s performance between world cups is indicative of low standards. Just answer one question. How many South Africans are in the six nations national teams? We have skill the Euro teams can only dream about.
In my mind we got worse every game as the tournament went on. As good as England and Scotland defended the attack looked stale.
I'd rather see us treat this summer tour and the autumn internationals as giving bench guys a start and rotating a few of the young wider squad players into the match day 23.
Now you're beginning to think like a World Cup Champion Team. 🤗
outplayed by england, score flattered ireland, ireland still deserved winners of a very difficult tournament to win twice in a row so "congratulations Ireland"! international rugby is about winning not about giving bench guys a chance, when bench guy is ready he will get his chance. every international match is important, winning runs bread confidence.
Maybe autumn tests but cannot see Ireland not taking the SA games seriously. Even Rassie has said that SA are going for it against Ireland and he probably rotates his squad the most out the top teams.
@@mattg6902 Except knock out games when you're Irish 🤣
I can't believe Irish people prefare winning the Six Nations than the big cup. Maybe it's a more reasonable ambition for them. Can't wait for them to show up
They don't, they're settling 🤣🤣🤣
Savour this victory and come down to South Africa to face the best rugby has to offer.
Well done lads, now givin age, time for transition. Pom, murray, healy, hendo legends but time is up sadly. Need ro bring in baird,aherne, edogbo,jager, milne, craig casey, prendergast etc
Can only be amazing games. Ireland has developed into a very strong and consistent rugby playing nation. Any game now between Ireland and South Africa can go either way.
This tour will only go one way.... the Springboks way. You can put money on it.
does it mean more to win the series in South Africa than winning the 6 nations to Irish Supporters?
God no.
Yes never won a series there
No team other than the all blacks 1 and Lions 2 has ever won a series in south Africa
I don't expect that to change
Im from the coast and lived up at altitude last year . It's fffffn brutal physically . Loftus is a fortress . An outside chance in Durban but that's all
Much respect to Ireland but Boks brutal physicality and pace will be too much
In saying all of this world rugby is different and massacres like the 1998 Irish tour wont ever happen again
That is a good thing for rugby union
It’s a real shame it isn’t three Tests. I don’t get the two Test thing.
Not even close.
Irish fans would not take a series win if the swop was losing the 6n.
The series may be a higher standard of rugby but people are not that interested.
Entertainment is playing five national teams who are neighbours.
Ireland playing in Paris 1000km from Dublin is like a home game for them. They will experience a hostile cauldron when they get here. So glad we lost the last 3 games against them, that will fire SA up and we will be READY.
They win the 6 nations because it has no quarter finals
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This lady is going to eat her words “ Rassie doesn’t care about win percentages” will come back to haunt you 100%!
Very excited for the upcoming tour especially with the RWC pool loss creating an itch for most South Africans. It's so rare for Ireland to tour SA its criminal. Pity its two tests and not three as my expectation is Ireland to take game 1 and us 2 because we will be very rusty as a test side and am expecting quite a bit of new faces. A drawn series would probably be fair but will leave everyone wanting more.
Focus on the now. No team has complete dominance right now, and that's a good thing. No telling who will win the The Rugby Championship in the Southern Hemisphere. Well done Ireland.
Fair play to Italy! They could easily have had 4 wins in this 6N, and well done Ireland. These are indeed halcyon days for Irish rugby and far removed from the misery of the 70s and 80s!
Scots switched off in the 2H😂
The world cup chokers are at the form of their lives I see😅😅
how many times have ireland won in SA?
They've won a Test Match there, in 2016, but what does that matter to you? 🤔
South Africa is a very difficult place to tour ..Took NZ 100 years to win a series ...With a superb team and it was close .. Its seriously hard to win there ..Usually needs a great team coupled with Boks in disarray...Thats not the case here ...Ireland will lose 2 to nothing ..
How many times have the players in this squad played SA in SA tbf.
@@liamwilliams6651 actually probably have a slight advantage over previous Irish touring teams in that most of the Irish squad now getting experience in SA conditions yhanks to the URC...But Loftus is a bit of a fortress for the Boks ...
@@davidpells4298i think that this Irish team has dipped as in a mild transition. I expect them to be a better team next year.
Trophies matter ....Think its going to be very tough tho for Ireland down South ..Boks will be very motivated ..All talk about Ireland being best team in the world will be replayed over and over in the change room..1st Test Loftus ..Altitude , dry hard fields , hostile crowd..Stadium sold out 30 minutes after ticket sales opened .. ..yup tough .
All the talk? One Welsh player said it. 😂😂
Um no ...Its not one Welsh player ...its doing the rounds ..Its coming from many sources even tp the point that Bok assistant cosch Stick has had to remind Irish fans that the World Cup is not in Ireland ...Side comment .Ireland are going to get smashed at Loftus ...Bank on it .
@@davidpells4298 I see you cant tell us who said it. You're making things up. Utterly pathetic. 😂😂
@@davidpells4298 I see you cannot tell us who said it. Names and dates please. You're making things up. Pathetic. 🤣🤣
@@washerdryer3466Who's the best team in the world?
Ireland were lucky the Scots overthrow in the lineout was 7 points end of day the Scots could have won this game 😂
Red alert red alert.bitter jock..10 times in a row how embarrassing? 😂😂😂😂
@@michaelmoynihan9591 4 pro teams, government support, and 350k registered players that what Ireland has, compared to Scot's only 2 prop teams, and close to 49k registered players has Ireland qualified for the European Championships in Germany NO!
@@Dishfire101 350k registered players lol. Wales have more registered players than Ireland. 🤣🤣
I hear nothing but sour grapes from the Scottish fans. If they threw a bad lineout, it's their fault. They suffer the consequences. All this nonsense, if this, if that. Utterly ridiculous. You lost, work on yourselves and stop blaming outside influences.
I disagree...every Test matters & very much so the Rugby Championship...Rassie has Completed Building a 35/40 man squad...now this Team will continue to evolve becoming more dynamic whilst always sticking to their historical Core Strengths...which subsequently result in greater consistency and trophies.
LOL Prepare for a flood of saffer comments 🤭
What a panel
Virgin media put them to shame
You’d think England winning at twickenham was a miracle. Jesus there a bloody good side who should have beaten the boks at the wc.
Question here, are Ireland coming with an Irish team?
Bunch of mercenaries as usual lol
It reminds me of the lions that's visiting South Africa again
Spronboks are always the nemesis to any team
Yeah they love some cheating and some steroids in school boy rugby.
Did she just say Rassie doesn't care about the ireland tour to S.A?
She obviously doesn't know much about rugby, does she?
Rassie said in a recent presser that he cares more about winning world cups than having a high winning % between cups. The context was that he experiments and focuses on building depth, not necessarily winning against Ireland.
For the Boks it's all about world cup everything in-between is building to the next.
Glory days of Irish Rugby and they still can't get past a quarterfinal 😂 lol
Springboks and All blacks would have played six nations, Ireland would have never win it💯😂
Wow Ireland is the best team in Europe in fact in the world, I would like them to win Webb Ellis
I am really not sure what to make of Ireland and their so-called greatness on the world stage. It's a harsh reality that they fail to perform in World cups. France was the only real strong team who would have successfully challenged them to the 6 nations over the past few years. In a world cup you at the bare minimum have to somewhere face the Boks and the AB's and that's their achilles heel to greatness.
Near impossible to win a rugby test series on SA shores (especially when you playing at Loftus) but a draw could happen.
So we're ruthless when we win, but when we lose we havent played well....get real
2024 still no WRC semi final ..what the hype?
Cannot wait for the Ireland v SA tour. Rugby must come first, Ireland second, and SA third. That will make me a happy English rugby fan.
"they're going to win, simple like that"
These "pundits" are the reason that Ireland chokes, you guys are putting so much pressure on them whereas they play awesome when they doing it silently
Some people are never happy
Exactly I think there is a few soccer fans here with no respect for legends, ie Peter and Connor.
It's not that. People can see the lack of depth and once players are out of their specialised position, they falter.
Are Ireland slipping not making the transition from great to greatness.
The Irish were well short of convincing in this 6Ns and lost as soon as one of the teams showed up. At least be realistic.
I just don't understand this talk. Ireland won the six nations with a grand slam in 2023. Sure but before that they last won it in 2018. Now all of a sudden everyone expects Ireland to win with a grand slam because 'that is just their standard'!? How is that the standard? They did it once ffs!
+80 points , i think you need to follow a different sport if you cant respect that .
The boks will play a whole new team and try and implement a new game strategy and style of play...ireland will be the same old...and if theyz win..then we did not execute our new zgame corectly simole and we will just move on as usual...
Nope, they will not. You might see one or two new faces, the Springboks will win both games.
It won't be easy to beat the boks in south africa ask the Irish and British lions
England and Scotland will ve at the European Championships in Germany guess the Irish did not qualify 😢
SA will be waiting . 😅😅😅
All I can say is Ireland best know this tour is not being taken lightly by South Africa. Like ones before. SA have Score to settle and NH critics to silence. I can guarantee they will not face physicality on the field and hostility off it like any tour before. Time to find out who the real men in green are
How you treat your enemys, speaks more about you than how you treat your friends
@@jonathanjones691 mmmm and the lion doesn’t lose sleep over the opinions of impala . If you want to get cryptic
Methinks though doth protest too much" The 6 Nations are way off Par this season.
Ireland have become more predictable last few Games, less creativity in middle of park since sextons retirement, can't see them winning it next year, Dupont back and England are building
Sorry to disappoint everyone but we don't really care that much about tours. We really just wanna play All Blacks, B&I Lions and World cups.
Losing to Ireland is really not gonna bother South Africans especially with Boks at beginning of season of beginning of a world cup cycle.
Ireland chassing number 1 team in the world spot like it matters.....win a world cup or get to a semi final atlst thn come back and talk pure northern hemisphere ignorance.......overated with no medals to show....from a south African
Lots of hype about Ireland's close win against South Africa in the RWC.
The fact is it was only a kicking off day for the brilliant Libbok that made the difference.
Since then, he's sorted that out and in the heat and on the hard grounds, with fanatical Bok supporters, Ireland will be up against far more than just Bok excellence.
blah blah blah you south africans bore me so much with excuses and rhetoric. Just congratulate Ireland on their 6 Nations Championship win and shut the hell up.
Ifs and buts. They lost get over it. Some SA fans are an absolute dose. After winning a RWC you are still whining and making excuses for a lost pool match. Just why...?
@@michaelharnedy who's whining, I'm calling out the Brit whiners who carped and moaned about Boks 1 point wins and the lot of you already saying Ireland is the best team in the world.
The hubris is epic.
As for you, the cup has never been won through such a tough draw, including the ABs in 11 and 15.
Get with the facts Boet you're ranting at the wrong party.
@@petes9524 But you're doing the same as those Brits whining about a loss during the RWC...
The only Irish going on about the "best team in the world" were some loud mouths in the media. They should be ignored, they don't represent Ireland well.
SA won the RWC so that description would represent them better right now. SA also lost to Ireland in the RWC though, so it doesn't seem that they are miles ahead of Ireland. Ireland, NZ and SA seem like the top teams at the moment based on results in the RWC, with little between them.
This Ireland team has a pretty good record lately even with RWC exit. Two Six Nations in a row, plus a test tour of NZ the year before that. SA have their RWC medals, but struggled in Rugby Championship lately.
There is no "hubris" in fans being proud of a very good Ireland side at the moment.
@@petes9524 Who said they were best in the world? You're making things up. Omg you saffas are pathetic.
Not very confident coming to South Africa 😕?????😊
Boks don't have a great record against the irish
Not in Ireland, no (the Boks have only won 53%). But in South Africa it's a different story (the Boks have won 90%).
Yes they do. Ireland has only ever won 1 test in South Africa.
Heaslip is insufferable and the reason Irish pundits get continously tagged as arrogant.
We need an alternative channel where we can watch our rugby and listen to punditry without having the women ruining it. None of them would have made a senior school boy team and we are supposed to care for their opinion? Naaahhhhhhh
Irish presenters are weird now they dont wana win world cup
They can't, there is a difference.
Ireland are on the decline, lucky to beat Scotland....
Might be but they were missing their 15, 14 and 13. We were lacking power against England and Scotland and a bit like the match v NZ, the lineout creaked and we struggled to impose our attacking game. This 6N have shown England are back and will be a big threat next season.
80+ point,s win over nxt team..you,r clueless. Stick to ping pong marty.😂😂😂😂😂
Beaten scotland last ten times in a row.😂😂😂😂 ye lucky to beat Scotland..😂😂😂 marty not the brightest spark are u marty?
Scots overthrow in the lineout gave 7 points to the Irish when it was a 4 point game 😂 Scots should have won this game 😂
@@Valhalla88888 should have? Could have? Your prob last 3 times sa bottle job that played the irish..? Scotland had no attack mate.irish camped inside they,re half mate..? I suppose the electric went off kid .what would you expect from sa.😂😂😂😂😂
That's just an excuse saying only the world cup matters it's an excuse SA have made up to try and cover up their rubbish performances outside of world cups at the end of the day all the greatest sides in all sports history don't just win world titles they are consistent too SA aren't in that bracket because they never back it up like the 2011-2015 ABs did now that's what you call WORTHY champions
Wait what, we took the BIL apart during this time. We might not perform to great during our reign as champs but plenty teams will dip over 4 years, I believe the Irish are dipping now as their game plan as per any team needs to evolve.
😂 Ireland still have never won a world cup and it won't change
That why South Africa has 4cups with 50% winning rate...NZ 30% and Ireland 0%.
Absolute nonsense . The world cup is about knockout rugby and if you want to win it you have to have depth and manage players game time .To do that you can't always play your best team. So what is Irellands goal to be consistent and not win world cups ,that's ridiculous Jealousy is a ugly thing
Why are you crying?
Skotland where to impatient
Time to retire POM and Murray from internationals. Need to build for future. Great hardy bucks, but they've done their time.
POM is a winner. Keep him.
Totally agree. Time has come to move on… If they overstay they’ll look silly…
Our depth is not ridiculously good - losing even one or two starters really upset us - hadn’t realised how much Keenan is a keystone in both defence & attack. Hansen not fully covered by his sub - back row back-ups are good alright - time to bring in Munster 8 Coombs - thin now at 9&10 in terms of the replacements being a step backwards - Beirne didn’t enhance his prospects, nor did 15, even Ringrose dropping basic balls
he's a hardy buck and a tough fella, but nah time has come. Make way for youth to rebuild and end on a high@@iano239
@@drdecco1: Yes agree. Ireland have a great first 15 capable of beating anyone on any given day. Outside of that we’ve good players, not great players…
Jaysus Heaslip is dry. Replace him with Lukey Fitz or someone with a bit of life.
Whatever about criticism of Heaslip, but my god Fitzgerald is unbearable.
Try listening to Rob Kearney. Heaslips analysis is often bizarre and he helped G England up with ludicrous comments on the the bbc rugby pod.
Lukey is a great fella.@@a88senna
Rob is an insomniacs dream.