CHASING THE SUN 2 | EPISODE 4 REVIEW | "SALADS DON'T WIN SCRUMS"
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- My thoughts after sitting down to watch Episode 4 of Chasing the Sun 2 and reliving the battle in Paris between England and South Africa. So much emotion!
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I love Frans Malherbes comment "i dont think anyone ever dreams of being a prop. I stoll dream of running into space out wide" 😂
When you thought England is going to win🤣🤣🤣
Unbelievable piece of footage of Pieter Steph at half time. You can see him sitting there and the moment he just thinks to himself, 'F*ck This! Not on my watch!' and starts speaking. The other thing is that scrum where Ox annihilates Sinckler, you see the hit, and then the Bar Fridge gets plugged in and the power comes on. Unbelievable. That dude could shift the planet out of its orbit if he's not careful.
...and his legendary comment: "You dont scrum like this from eating salads!" Classic!
Love your "could shift the planet out of its orbit" comment, fantastic
We are adopting you. You are now South African. Your South African name is Sipho (translated: Gift). I hope you enjoy South Africa with all it's experiences, Craven week, and the Ireland series.
You are so right …a real South African
pronounced 'See-po' ... just in case you need the clarification, Tim
I always thought that Mpho meant Gift.
@MetYsJa is the same name my brother but in different SA languages
Sipho iQanda, the gift of the egg
Bongi's tears, Coach Jacques sitting and talking him through it and the bear hug Oom Rassie gave him at the end says everything there is to know about the team culture. They can be brutally honest with each other, they expected to check their egos at the door and put the team first and they can be vulnerable too. PSDT said it best [translated as] "We're all scared, if you're scared, say so and we'll make a plan."
PSDT
@@mlisto293 Pieter steph du toit
There was not a dry eye in South Africa for anyone who watched Episode 4 of Chasing The Sun... Bongi had grown men crying.
That was real, authentic emotion which epitomized what every human being goes through in life...
And as a South African, I had no idea what the Springboks had gone through for us ...
And that goes for every person who plays for a dream or even just goes out to try to make it through the day
For me it was Kurt lee arendse's comment "what have I done? We are going home"😢
This entire series had its special moments...need to watch on repeat 😊@@Palesa2024-oc7tk
@@Palesa2024-oc7tk followed by "Thank you!!". He said to the forwards what all of us would love to say personally to every member of the team.
So true. I just finished episode 4 from our home here in the Netherlands, it is 00:15am, and I am sobbing when Bongi lets the emotions rip in the change room. Surreal.
Handre deserves every morsel of respect for kicking the points and winning the game the way he did, but for me the MOTM was Ox Nche.
One thing that I picked up in this episode is that in the TV coverage, they don't film the scrums properly.
The close-up video of the scrum training from Chasing the Sun really gets across the raw power of the scrum. From the sound at the hit to the clash of the unstoppable force and immovable object - the grass tearing, the sheer pressure on the front rows. I reckon with some small innovation to how scrums are filmed in live games they could easily make this one of the most interesting parts of the game.
A great point!
Top comment.
Problem is world rugby is trying to run away from scrums.
The Mbonambi scene is even sadder when you consider the whole controversy that next week and worse that he got injured in the first few minutes of the final 😭
I love hearing people outside of SA reacting to this show. Dricus Du Plessis said "hulle weet nie wat ons weet nie", they really don't know lmao. This simply means so much more to us. Crazy🇿🇦
South African living in Cape Town and have been watching you since the World Cup - watched this episode last night and was waiting for your review to drop - great job as always…thanks Tim!
What a show. Appreciate it!
@@EggchasersRugby do you have a link to watch it here in the uk pls, many thx
@@EggchasersRugby knowing when to relinquish control and happily defer to technically your subordinate, is a mark of greatness, to be humble enough to act upon it doubly so
I was actually also quite excited to see Tim's reaction to that episode. It was a brilliant one.
Great job as always Thank you
Another South African here, started following you after the All Blacks, Twickenham defeat, and then all through the World Cup. Always appreciated your honesty and passion for the game as well as your thoughts on Chasing the Sun 2 in your reviews. The Chasing the Sun (1 & 2) are extremely emotional for me, and I'm sure for a lot of Saffas, but also gives us a sense of pride in that it is so well received by your channel and others
What a commentary
As usual totally fair and unbiased. I think you should run a course on how to give factual and fair podcasts and commentary
Agree! 2019 RWC was the last rugby game I watched with my dad before he died. will never forget the tear that trickled down his face being so proud of the Springboks.
This 2023 RWC my son and I enjoyed the games together....other fam too...but my son and I are the rugby fans
Absolutely did the same - I was hooked to your channel.
Absolutely did the same - I was hooked to your channel.
Bongi crying alone in the end brought a tear to the eye. Ireland tests coming up in SA soon feel like the dessert after the meat feast that was the World Cup. Unfinished business for the Springboks at a stadium where they've never lost. Hhmm
I am watching this Doccie with my now 12 year Rugby playing son. We are South Africans. And I cant help to drill it to him, that if he ever has an opportunity to play for the Springboks, I want him to know on whose shoulders he stands and shoes he fills. The honour and respect those boys brought to our Country by not only by how they played, but how they conducted themselves in and outside the field. The pride in us as a country our Ubuntu this Team represents well. I am so proud of them. I have goosebumps.
I am so happy and appreciate this Doccie, the depth it brings on the stories behind the victories and defeats. We didn't know the internal battles they were fighting to give us this hope.
Thank you Springboks. Everytime i am tempted to be discouraged about life's difficulties and want to give up, I think of them, their sacrifice and thinking about us, when tough times came. Wow.
Also, my son is a big fan of yours.
Hope you experience only good of what our country has to offer when you come.
Thanks for the love and respect you've shown us South Africans. You are so genuine and authentic. We appreciate your content since the Rugby World Cup.
Oh I agree about Owen Farrell.
May your channel continue to grow.
Gave me goosebumps just reading your comment... Bongi Mbonambi posted a pic on instagram asking of everyone on SA is doing okay...the response was phenomenal... maybe add a comment like this on his post because we seriously had no idea what the team and coaches have been doing for this country
@@Arti-ficiallyChiThanks for letting me know. I will 😊❤
PSdT summed us South Africans perfectly in his team talk. WE ALWAYS MAKE A PLAN. My respect for this gent is infinite.🤞💚💛🇿🇦
Bongi said to Handre "this is for South Africa" when telling him to kick
I can't think I have ever seen anything as good on TV as Chasing the Sun 2. I get we as South Africans are intimately connected and it is perfectly made for our culture. But lord, still, this just hits every note perfectly!
Bongi's moment touched me at the end...
For sure, but even more knowing what is waiting next week in terms of his story, but also that of Deon Fourie.
This is why I love my country... They should name a street after each of these players and coaching staff, true modern day heroes.
That moment with Bongi at the end...When you choose to carry the weight and all that it means, that is a tax on someone who takes responsibility, ownership and them before us. Thank you guys, you make crying so worth it, tears well spilt.
What a wonderful fair unbiased and generous commentator you are. I must say , I wish I could be half as fair as you. Hope you enjoy South Africa as much as you truly deserve. Roy
The part were Bongi cried😢😢😢 man oh man my heart ❤😭 im crying all over again
There is nothing better than watching the battle in the scrums. If the scrum bothers you then you are missing out.
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Arandse: 'What have I done? We are going home."
After the scrum goes to thank every forward.
Just a minor clarification: “Rip the *kak* out of them”, I think is what Rassie said. That is the Afrikaans word for “sh!t” - but can also refer to someone who has been full of sh!t - and Rassie now wants them (the players) to now pull that out of them.
Have been looking forward to eqch episode of your review. Been brilliant so far, and also sad that we only have a single episode left. Cannot wait for you to experience South Africa a bit later this year! 👊🏻👊🏻
Every day is a school day mate! Thanks for the explanation haha
That's what I heard too.
You are right about the “Rip the Kak out of them”… not the “cock” 😂
Afrikaans mixing in with English….tough for an Englishman to distinguish 😊
Another “lost in translation” 😂😂
How can I still get nervous and emotional when I know what's about to happen!?!?!?!? Levels!
Bro I'm asking myself the same question
PSDT's words. ''As jy bang is - se so. Ons maak n plan'' Translation '' If you are scared - say so. We'll make a plan''. That was not a motivational speech. That was a threat.
The kind of thing a gladiator would say in the arena.
He first says WE ARE ALL SCARED!
To borrow from Ted Lasso: “Scrum is life!!!” Without a scrum you don’t have rugby
As a South African I must say England played exceptionally well.
We know that. Why is it important to tell upur nationality.?
Salads don't win scrums!! Ox is the man, wow! Watching Pieter Steph's talk in the changing room was touching, the quiet one telling the team what they needed to hear. Bongi crying made me cry...so much weight was on his shoulders. We joke in SA that Springboks tackle bulls on the farms for fun lol. You are going to love the Craven week, maybe I will catch you at the Loftus Ireland game, I'll be there. Job well done again!! I really think you are onto something with the Rassie quotes book! On Owen Farell(apologies for being blatantly honest) is that I lost respect when he was so arrogant on accepting the 2nd place medal in 2019, that to me showed zero sportsmanship. But I was really impressed at the growth I saw with his interviews in 2023, he seems incredibly humble and a great sportsman, so I can give him that!
He was an absolute (excuse my french) royal dick to us in that game. Very hard to not take the way he acted very very personally! But, he was outstanding in that match. I will give him that.
Tim, this episode (#4) reminded me of how great Owen Farrell was and I am not sure he gets or got the credit he deserves; he was formidable on that day, what a man, what a player and I hope he returns to international test
He is some guy! A misunderstood man as much an he is under-rated.
Farrell is actually really good... especially that day. I think world rugby did him a disservice by treating him differently to other players. Many rugby players do stupid stuff and get penalised but Farrell getting away with the same illegal moves that others don't made people dislike him. Let's see what happens to him in the future.
@@kesivan Yeah that's always been why I've not been a total fan of his. He's got immense talent I don't deny but some of his tackles are just downright idiotic and he definitely struggles with his temper!
@@edwardharris2388💯
Owen Farrell was the driving force in the English team 2019 and 2023....average teams he turned into contenders
The bongi at the end pitimise the rugby world cup so close so much preesure on everyone to perform at that level I mean as a spectator I felt like crying and seeing him let it out was like u could see what he went threw and the amount of pressure got the better of him what a absolutely awesome person he is and what the team did for this country
Reached the pub, no seats available the pub organizes a big screen tv, chairs and tables for the 150 of us waiting outside, 3 hours before the match starts.
The game starts and all of us sitting there in disbelief for 70 minutes.
Then we get the try and the entire place erupts into a canon fire, beers flying, cheers of hope !!
There was an energy in the air from that point on, the true sense of brotherhood. Strangers refilling each others drinks with whats left on the table, it was just one of the most memorable rugby moments ever
My man wish I was there
Excellent work! I am rather humbled that you appreciate what rugby really means to South Africa, because it is really bigger than any individual. The difference in the townships, where you see kids aspiring to be the next Siya. It’s a magical game and it suits the magical country of South Africa. It’s the very glue that keeps us together, and it prevents us from falling apart.
Rugby is a game for everyone, any size, shape, length or colour! It has no language, only spirit. A spirit that we express in our daily lives and as a collective.
I would like to pinch my favourite Shakespeare line, but instead of “ if music be the food of love - play on “
If rugby be the food of love and Ubuntu - play on and on and on! Viva amabokkebokke!!!!
Love my country🇿🇦
I found myself choking up at the end with Bongi 😢
I've found myself fighting off onion cutting ninjas for four episodes now!!! 🤣🤣
Rassie has got an autobiography out. Amazing insight into the man!
"...and he ended him. Folded him like a deck chair..." hahahahahahah brilliant!
The PSTD speech at halftime didnt have a single spare word. No fat. Nowhere to hide after he said it.
Absolute fire.... And statement we could all live by when things aren't going to plan.
"Almal is fokken bang, as jy bang is sê. Ons maak 'n fokken plan"
🔥🔥🔥🔥
The language is so simple, but the Afrikaans has a much stonger meaning than any direct English translation can explain. My best effort...
We are all scared here, admit it to yourself and then lets make a plan to fking fix this mess.
Been waiting for this reaction the whole day since the episode came out yesterday 😂
Enjoy! And thanks for watching
Same 😂😂
Me too!
Me 2
The trip to South Africa sounds incredible. Happy that you are going to a schools game - you'll see exactly how deep rugby goes at that point. Enjoy!!
Two things..
1) Many grown men had a tear in the eye last night at the end.
2) Many, many, MANY people dont like Owen Farrel. Maybe top 5 most disliked current player in rugby. Im sure if the 6 Nations Doc was better quite a few people would have a change of heart...or when he changes he tackle technique :D
Welcome to Sunny SA (when you arrive) Listen to your contact regatding safety( just be awake) if you are aware its not so bad really average South Africans are genuinely friendly people random conversations abound. You'll love it, Dont stay too long, you may never leave. 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm getting goosebumps listening to you talk about this game and reliving the moments from the #RWC2023 and your videos. Once in a lifetime experiences.
I agree with your view that this is a special rugby series. This team should be given the task of making a series like this for the next workd cup but with all the teams. They have shown they know how to sell the rugby story like non other. Honestly not a Farrell fan but it's because one of his high tackles cost us the services of one of our bok flyhalves. What was good though was showing how England were growing in confidence as the game proceeds. The combative England is clearly visible, palpable even. The back story of Ox is also the contest between football and rugby for the youth. Bear in mind Rugby was the Afrikaaner nationalists sport focus. Football has always been the focus of the rest of the population, but the World Cup victories from 1995 onwards have gradually won universal support across the country. The racially integrated team where they are genuinely close and not just window dressing. These things matter here. A rural guy in the freestate province to is is a statement of how deeply the rugby heros reach is into the psyche of our country.
I cannot wait for your South African 🇿🇦 content wen you come over
Farrel was on absolute fire in this game, Steward was brilliant in the air and the way the England team pinned us in our half and bullied us physically spooked the Boks like I've never seen. After PSDT's speech it galvanized the boys and the subs made an impact. The belief returned, the scrum set a platform to spring off of. Pollard's experience and ice in his veins won us this game at the expense of the English. I really felt for them, after all the heartbreak they've had over the years this was the closest to the perfect game against us. The combined coaching effort of the Boks resulted in the right choices at critical times which in the end was the difference. Bongi sitting alone in the changeroom was powerful and later being hugged by Rassie was a massive moment in the whole series. A few people already believe he is the new captain, it's possible as he is based locally, he has captained us a few times so it could just be a matter of formality. As Rassie says the captaincy isn't very important, we have many leaders in this team. Siya is still massive for this team and SA but so are the other senior players. I do feel that Rassie downplays Siya's importance to bring out the best in him though. Will be fascinating to see how things play out in the much anticipated Ireland series! Thanks again for quality content, I know a lot of Saffas that don't have access to DSTV appreciate your breakdown of episodes that they are not yet able to watch. Cheers!
Tim, the biggest compliment I as a Saffa can give 2 you (as someone you absolutely LOVES your channel and content!!!!!!) is 2 not even be mad that you literally cannot pronounce in any correct way any Afrikaans names and surnames. I actually think its kinda cool now. Anyway, Love the channel, been following almost since day one and (O BTW, when you go the Joburg Ellis Park please dont wonder off and keep your phone in pocket.) keep making them brother!
We love this game. It means more than most would imagine.
I have not been a fan of Bongi as SA captain - I always thought that his mouth may get him and the team into a tight spot. But seeing the end of this episode, I realized just what character is needed to fulfill the role of on field captain with the expectations of so many on you. Cudos to all who step into that breach - you have all done us proud.
PSDT...he sat there seeing the boys were flat, quiet and anxious...and you could see something stirring within and then he spoke...GOOSEBUMPS! And Bongi at the end....I must say it caught me off guard...somebody started peeling onions in my house! Great review once again. Looking fwd to the next episode. (from Cape Town, SA)
Chasing the sun embodies what most of us want to do for this country thats why we supports the gladiators on the field
What a great video! I was there in that semifinal all the way down from Brazil also making my dream to watch a RWC match, and it was very special as the '07 Boks was the team the made me fall in love for the game in first place.
So nice to see the context and the little details of the game like the penalty that led to the try (fun fact: I was so sure they were about to strike that I managed to record it) , just made me relive that amazing experience. I'll never forget how tough it was in the pitch and how tense it was on the stands.
Greeting from Brazil
Rassie has written a book please read it brilliant book.
Thanks Tim once again for the love of SA, I am pleased you took up my advice to watch the Craven Week as well. I will make an effort to attend the Craven week.
Rip the KAK out of them, was Rassies actual words. Kak is "shit" in English, and probably one of the" lekkerste" (nicest) Afrikaans swear words to use becuase it has a hundred different meanings, in a good or bad way. But you have to be South African to know how to use it properly. Great show once again. Thank you Tim.
Fair Play to England!!! They came to the party! Respect!
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Tim, Owen was playing for his country!! You give it your all!! We know off the field, they different human being!! Tim, you are a great storyteller @!
I think something we dont give enough credit to, is how England used our own tactics against us. They were incredible this game especially after being written off by everyone. England and New Zealand have been our biggest competitors in World Cups, and both teams really pushed us to the limit this last WC
All 4 .. Ireland France England Nz .. we had to take them all and they brought everything…
Bongi having a weep almost fucken killed me.
These documentaries really change your perspective about the players, as saffa there’s few guys i like way more and few guys i like a bit less, based of personality and character portrayed in documentary.😅
I started to follow your reviews during the world cup. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and passion. I'm so glad that you are coming to visit us. I know that you will experience the very warmest hospitality, you deserve it.
Hi Tim, When you come to South Africa do yourself a favour: try to go on a tour of the battlefields of the Anglo-Zulu war with a proper guide like Rob Caskie. The stories are deeply compelling and the landscapes are unspoiled and spectacular.
See you at the game in Durban!
Tim, go see the Voortrekker Monument in Pretoria too, the Vroue Monument (Women's Memorial) in Bloemfontein too, supposing you have Mandela's Statue at the Union Buildings and the Apartheid Museum pencilled in already? No, we'll understand, you will not have time for all this on two trips. Book more trips! Even if it takes 8 different airlines! 😊
I was anxiously waiting for your review the same way I was anxious waiting for each chasing the sun episodes. Brilliant !!! Thanks Tim
Thank you for the great objective feedback, an emotional journey it was and so special to see you acknowledge the same. I have no idea what to look forward to after the final episode. I agree with you, it would be so special if we could have the opportunity to get to know the background and characterstrades of other players in the RWC. This game is as much about the journey of the players and coaches and not just the results!
All the feels all over again!
Even though you know the outcome, each episode still has you on the edge of your seat, every emotion you go through, an absolute incredible production. I think it will be some time before we see anything of it's like on TV again. Great review as always Tim.
Our blood pressure and heart rates go up even though we know the outcome. Edge of the seat, cramps in my feet all over again.
Again, this is an awesome insightful review. Something Rassie point blank said in the first season of CTS: sometimes he doesn't have all the answers so he needs everyone to pitch in with ideas and taking the lead. So its great that you picked up on that.
I definitely agree with you about OF, all the tackling issues aside, its a pity noone really know him as a person and he isnt as accessible in that way. It's a PR oversight imo. I've seen the English media and public tearing him apart on a personal level, and it's sad. With our boys, we get to see who they are, whats important to them, their struggles etc, so we a lot more forgiving when they don't perform sometimes and will go "toe-to'toe" with any other team's supporters that bashes them because its as if we know them. As much as they care about their country, their country cares about them.
Love watching your channel, from South Africa
Cool review mate. If you make your way to cape town, put details of a meetup here and im sure youll be getting bottomless castle draughts all weekend.
Another ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ podcast ….thanks
Lots of respect for Owen here in SA. He's incredible.
Thank you for or channel I appreciate your comments and rugby knowledge I started watching you during the rugby world cup You calling the game as you see it as gained my respect . I might be bias as a South African but listen to you talk about my team the way you do just want to say thank you
Tim honestly thank you for this. Quite frankly you're a breath of fresh air in amongst naysayers who don't like the Boks in the North. So many supposed "pundits" who can't lace your boots in terms of being unbiased about rugby in general should really learn a lot of things from you
May God give you a memorable and safe couple of trips to South Africa. Thank you very much for your kindness🤙
Tim you are such a legend and we love , value and respect you much in South Africa as a fair , honest , insightful and passionate rugby lover . In a previous comment after the final , I suggested that you really spoil your wife the next few years to ensure she gives you a “ pink pass “ for next RWC. Thank you …Thank you .
Thanks Tim
I love that you can be unbiased in your appraoch and appreciate the circumstances that our people live under in South Africa
I've been waiting for this review. Started watching you with the world cup. Love listening to your reviews. I'm South African from Cape Town. And yes ... we love our Springboks. You have no idea what we (the supporters) went through those last three weeks ..... winning each match by one point. It took its toll on us, people were struggling at work come Monday morning lol. But it was such an atmosphere, everyone wearing their bok tops to work, school kids as well on Bok Friday. It was such a vibe ... we were proud of our boys, the character they showed in those tough moments and the way they played for us. Yes, I agree with Rassie when he said ... they the only thing working in South Africa. Hope you enjoy your first outing to South Africa later the year and you get to experience the rugby atmosphere of South Africa ..... Boks4Life 😊🇿🇦
It was so special, that team, the coaches and just mind boggling the amount of work that it does take to win a world cup
I appreciate your unbiased opinion on the show. Your heart is in the right place. You will enjoy your time year welcomed with open arms. Rugby now is didcated by refs interpretation rules. I can see I transisionfom from forward dominated games to more open running style to come Watch this space Stormers are. Bringing the device. Watch what is to vome
I'm so impressed in the manner you deliver you content, it's refreshing. Chasing the sun.. is what it means to be a Bokke.
I was there for that game in Stade de France, remembering all the emotions up to 68 mins, and then the shift and result after 81 mins.
Hey Tim I had that exact empty and sad feeling when watching this episode because I knew there was only 1 episode to go. I was even reluctant to watch it because I don't want it to come to an end. Love your channel Tim ❤. Sending you love from SA.
Was so powerful, watched it last night and Bongi at the end breaking down after the England game had me genuinely choked up.
Hi brother great show just want to warn when visiting South Africa the only reason men eat salads is because our wifes or girlfriends force us to do so otherwize will braai and braai and ......braai .......braai we love meat. You will enjoy SA and the people here. What will u do here except rugby you will braai love your show.
England was so good in that semi final. I saw Courtney Lawes on another podcast and they did indeed moneyball their gameplan. They had some analysts and statisticians in and apparently they had like a 90% chance of winning if they stuck to the gameplan. Which nearly came to pass
I look forward to your review as much as I do to every week's episode of cts. Thanks Tim. We look forward to hosting you and hopefully you make SA your second home.
Absolutely brilliant review Tim, thanks! Love your channel.
You know we’ve been watching and waiting for your review to drop, Eggchasers! Nice work, mate.
Highlights of my week. 1. New CTS episode. 2. Tim's reaction.
You are a legend boet. Thank you for understanding and bringing our story to the masses.
Great summary as always, mate! Enjoy your trip to SA in July. Can’t wait to see your YT videos on the experiences you are going to have.
Have loved, loved, loved listening to your report back.
Great summary Tim. I followed you throughout the world cup - well done on a great channel. Hope you have a great time in SA.
I want to thank you for doing such a great job with all the videos that you have put out. I started following you just before the Rugby World Cup 23 and enjoyed every one of them. So glad that you are coming out to South Africa. I know you will enjoy it in every way and make many friends and go back home with great memories.
Love the channel Tim!! Your knowledge of the game is there for all to see. Look forward to having you in SA layer this year
Absolutely loving listening to your reactions after each episode. Been refreshing UA-cam all day since this one came out. Cheers fella, really appreciate your admirable viewpoints of the Boks throughout these, especially after this tough loss. Keep up the great content!
Thanks Tim!
Another fantastic video, Tim. You’ve definitely become my favourite rugby pundit - the English are not known for their impartiality and magnanimity (perhaps you need a documentary for that!) Excited for you to visit South Africa and see why we are who we are. Keep up the great work.
Always appreciate your honesty and knowledge of the game Tim Thanks
Great review Tim! You rock brother. Your enthusiasm is infectious. Cheers mate