Land Cruiser vs Land Rover! Hitting The Colorado Trails With Two Iconic Off-Roaders
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2025
- We take a 2021 Toyota Land Cruiser Heritage Edition and put it up against a 2020 Land Rover Defender 110 SE P400 on some of the best trails around the front range of Colorado.
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*he actually brought the toyota in case the Land Rover breaks down*
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thank You
I did as well..in the uk land rover products are things to avoid.
I’m a land cruiser fan and bought my first Land Rover a few weeks ago and love it, don’t see what all the hate is about
I'd take the Toyota any day of the week. Can't beat that reliability.
I use my Land Cruiser HJ45 1980 and still drives where Jeeps got stuck..jjajaja.
Toyota's are for the week city dads that can't fix cars.
Toyota's are for the boring
@@ChristopherWhite-yg4hh yeah xD this also happens l.o.l
Toyota is the king of reliability
@@ChristopherWhite-yg4hh I fix and check my cars a lot aka my Mustang and corvette, I also like saving money so I bought a used Toyota camry.
There is a 4X4 playground close to where I live. They have a Land Cruiser on standby to rescue those Land Rovers and Jeeps 🤣 They also have a hilux to carry extra tools 🤣
😂😂😂
That´s usually true, but even so bad driver can stuck most reliable car
@@yananRamirez true
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Damnn 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have just turned 54,000 miles on my P400. I am a wildlife photographer and I have given this thing pure hell and it has been flawless.Great video, one point missed , the rear door does lock into place by simply squeezing the handle .
54k miles is nothing
Well it’s 65,000 now . Amazing 65,000 miles . I’ll keep ya updated.
Love the video, not a fan of the music, just leave the it out, most viewers are quite happy hearing the rigs go through its paces
I was about to make exactly the same comment. A great video BUT I almost stopped watching as the music was extremely annoying. Watch TFL Offroad - MUSIC IS NOT REQUIRED !
100%. Terrible music
Hahahaha I was gonna say the same thing! I thought that the whole time.
Agreed
Great Video - no music please. It's not great and it does not add anything to the quality of the video.
Love the Toyota Land Cruiser
Love my defender after 50k miles
No issues
@@tomaskroupakkfoto4132 done 87k miles on it
Love it 🥰
@@tomaskroupakkfoto4132
LR owners doesn't keep the vehicle that long as 300k etc...
Had a big trip and finally covered 100k miles 😍🥰🥰🥰
It's the best car i have ever owned
Missing the most important part. After 300k miles LC will still be on the road. And after 40k miles Defender will break down.
@@austin0795 you missed the point..
@@tjnptel1 but the land criuser is like 800 years old and all the problems are sorted and of course they will be Alot more problems on the defender its on its first years and they will be Alot of problems but move to the fill size which is the actual competitor of this it will have Alot less problems and will last longer. I've seen Alot of discos and defenders going through to 10, 20,30 years still going strong I also don't see you buying an 80k+ car and keeping it the Toyota is something that should be cheap and innovated but they're expensive and with tech from the 90s they are only reliable that's it it's seems Toyota is losing its lead in sales and won't be here for long especially with these 80k cars land rover Mercedes bmw audi porsche jaguar are all destroying the land criuser sale numbers
@@jeff1595 yes there are alot of land rovers that reach 300 000Km, but you have to spend alot of money on repairs it while the land cruiser can last way above 500 000Km with some minor repairs
(my brother owns a 1996 land rover defender with 200 000Km and he spent more than $20 000 on repairs while 2008 land cruiser with 180 000 i own only had $3000 in repairs)
@@jeff1595 I suggest you a mercedes mini van LOL bcz u don't seem to know why the Land Cruiser was built...it was built for off-roading not for those fancy features. And it has all the features for offroad
Landrover reliability has increased massively since they dropped all the BMW junk.
I own 2013 LC200, I don't need cool off road electronic stuffs, I believe in land cruiser fully loaded with 5 person and bashing in the middle of nowhere without any issue more than 6 years! I think LR cannot!
Well it well can pls be reasonable
@@johnpaulonyeama9931 independent suspension pile of ass can do it? Nahhh maybe the older defender can.
Always compare to Land Cruisers, just in case the Defender breaks down the Land Cruiser is there to bring you home...
That's the old defenders the newer ones have better quality and last longer. Even the cruisers break down
@@BoskiM These idiots thinks that land cruiser is indestructible or something
@@TheBlueVaron Thanks for the compliment, they not indestructible but it takes a heck of a lot more to destroy them than it would take to trash a Land Rover, btw I own a classic Range Rover Vogue...
@@TheBlueVaron I mean they are
@@TheBlueVaron RR trash
The heritage LC does NOT have extra skid plates. All LandCruisers have four plates from the factory.
the factory skid plates are not great.
@@anya3027 the aren't go for ARB skid plate set.
@@GutoFontana sorry, i didnt understand... ?
Right
I live in the UK but have spent a lot of time in Southern Africa where most people I know who go seriously off road choose a Toyota on the basis of reliability rather than absolute off-road performance.
I have owned three Land Rover Discoveries from new over the last thirty years. The first had a major engine problem after three years. The second ran virtually trouble free for almost twenty years and 200,000 miles, but had terrible paint quality/galvanic corrosion that Land Rover would not address under warranty. My current Discovery 4 has only done 16000 miles, but recently had a complete electronic black out. You would not want that to happen in the middle of the Kalahari. My son's 2018 Discovery Sport had a similar "control system fault" at the same time.
Despite these issues, the Discovery is great to drive on and off road in the UK and meets my needs for seating capacity, load carrying, towing and comfort better than the Toyota. It will never be too far from support if/when it breaks down. If I was in Southern Africa or other remote areas I would choose a Toyota every time.
If I could choose which one to have as a press vehicle, it's the Defender hands down. But if I was going to shell out my own money, buy the vehicle, and keep it for 15 years, it's the Land Cruiser. No contest.
Defender for light off road camping and safari
Land cruiser for work especially geologist and rural medic
Defender for the mall ride. Landcruiser for anything serious and offroad
if I win a Land Rover, I sell it and buy a Land Cruiser
A tie? I'd take a 10 year old 200 series for less than 1/2 the price of the new Defender any day of the week! The answer is definitely a lightly used Land Cruiser.
Well done. You've just compared a 10 year old second hand vehicle to a brand new car and called yourself master of the universe. Make sure your nurse gives you an extra glass of OJ today to celebrate.
@@brianfeely902 The reference is with respect to value for dollar. It's not a direct comparison.
@@edwardpeters4700 So you are admiting that it's not relavant to this particular discussion?
@@brianfeely902 actually it's directly relevant. Expected reliability of the Defender is so poor many of us would prefer a 10 year old 200 series.
@@brianfeely902 when a second hand 2010 car has better reliability, repair, and maintenance expenses than brand new car that cost double, not picking it would be a sin
I've had both...Both brands are indeed legendary...one for reliability and dependability and the other for NOT so...
This joke is for old Land Rovers...New land Rovers are Better in their segment
A wise man once said “if you want to go deep into the desert get a Land Rover, if want to go deep into the desert and come back get a land cruiser”
-tsun zu
An even wiser man said get a new joke
@@arkos55 and another wise man said old is gold😂
Boooooooooooring. Land Cruiser owners are so dull and grey.
That's funny I have a 20 year old Land Rover what's solid axles and traction control on 33s and it takes me everywhere hundreds of miles all the time non-stop constantly
Him: Defender is the king
Also Him: I don't want to stand behind it in case it slips
Exactly 😊
😂
We can go into any forest in any vehicle we want. But to come back you need a Land Cruiser.
Hahahahaha it’s not the 90’s anymore. LR dominates
Bullshit, in Indonesia with mostly 40 degree celcius in the midday, i used to go offroading in the forest with my 17' Range Rover, and came back safely lol
@@RC-ei8jb yep, it does dominates in mechanics visit
I choose LC for the body on frame chassis 😎
@@nb2786 Bro its a joke, -_-
Land cruiser all day everyday. I wouldn’t even do a straight swap of my 4runner and the defender. Just not a fan of land rovers for obvious reasons.
If you want to get into the backcountry, take the Defender. If you want to get home afterwards take the Land Cruiser.
Landcruiser are for poors
Great vid - Landrover and Landcruisers are legends. In Australia, there are plenty of very high mileage Landrovers, as they continued to be sold here after they exited the US market. I had an 80 series Landcruiser for a while. Both vehicles are very capable.
should of kept the 80..last decent toyota built..i said decent,, not brilliant..nissan was better..
@@harrywalker5836 Divorce and becoming a single father of 3 boys meant I couldn't keep it..
@@DailyGrindAus hope you're doing better now
@@RajerThatYT Thanks - that was 15 years or so ago, so things are good now.
Land Cruiser went through tough ways while Defeder driver keep complaining how slow is LC trunk and crwl control.
Fantastic summary 💯
@@OutofSpecReviews call me if you need me
Also the amount of shit you have to engage in the defender before you start, sounds like stuff that will break while daily driving! 😂
@@DVAMEKAGK you can put the defender in auto and let it do everything lmao
@@TheFlyingClutchman and then watch it punish you for using it with a $15,000 repair bill 😉😘
Yes the 200 series is old school and lacking technology, but that's exactly how I like it. And the best part about the Cruiser is that I won't have to see the check engine light for a very long time unlike Defender owners. lol But jokes aside, the Defender is a good looking and capable vehicle but its geared towards a completely different type of person than a Land Cruiser.
As a owner of 3 land rovers i want to say that I never faced any issues with them
They are way better than my friends land cruiser
@@mahirvlogs5550 I think it depends more on the care of the car . Those cars are always reliable .
In 15yrs the Landrover will be recycled into a bed pan and the Landcruiser will still be climbing mountains 😂
The land criuser will just be sat there collecting dust cause no one wants an old land criuser for 40k lol
My series 2 defender: am I a joke to u?
@@berennicholas5003 you and I both know the new defender will not last as long as the older models. It’s life span will more of a Discovery 4. +- 120,000km
@@mattyolo as much as I hate to agree
It's still an agreement
@@jeff1595 I do, because I know that it won't fall apart when I drive it to the moon and back.
The defender seems way more capable off road as stock and a looks a lot nicer, loving the land cruiser tho it’s an awesome car too
Defender looks like it was designed by a kid...Landcruiser has a classic design.
@@michaelbautista5803 land criuser looks ugly af defender looks cool
@@jeff1595 defenders looks like it was designed by a 5year old. Landcruisers have classic designs
@@michaelbautista5803 and everybody is copying it including Toyota. Suffer haters suffer 😂
@@jaimeduncan6167 Landcruisers copy Landcruisers and improves it. Defenders does the opposite making them fragile af 😂🤣😂🤣
I sell land rovers for a living…the hardest part of my job is apologising to customers who just spent £80k an their car broke down a week later . Lovely.
And today on “things that never happened….”
Land cruiser All the way !!!!! Show me a Land Rover that last/live half of what the land cruiser can last/live with no issues !!! Land cruiser is built like a tank and it out last everything and it can beat anything on earth when it comes to off roading !!!!
except the jeep wrangler
Land Cruiser is awesome and it's very reliable, but it's not in my top 5 most capable offroad, not even top 10.
@@piemar97 the fact that third world countries, and the people that explore the outback drive land cruiser should tell you that wrangle are not reliable enough for those conditions
@@isaaclopez5004 Third world countries don't have the money to get a Jeep Wrangler my friend, hence they go for Toyotas. But of course nothing compares to Toyota when it comes to reliability
@@piemar97 have you looked at the cost of a ladncruiser compared to a jeep wrangler?? That LC is a $100k the 70 series line up which is more comparable to the wrangler in oz starts at around $80k. Cost has nothing to do with why jeeps aren't seen in third world countries and yotas are everywhere. Jeeps are poorly made and the only people dumb enough to by them live in the good ol' usa
Defender is good, but I’m sure that land cruiser is excellent ( look at the land cruiser guy confidence)
Exactly, and also the insecurity of the LR guy
Reliability Japanese car you can't get wrong solid car. If you look after it, will give you life time service that for sure.
I shopped both of these trucks. I went with the LC HE. All the trick electronic crap on the Defender will go bad, and once the warranty runs out you are screwed. The LC is just a much better truck overall.
I do agree that the tail gate is slow as hell. The cool thing is that you can turn off and open it manually.
I did have rock sliders and rear suspension guards put on though.
@Aquatic Ape congrats, you brought a car thats gonna live longer than you
In 10 years the Land rover will need 20000 in repairs and be crushed while the Land cruiser will have another 10 years reliability ahead of it
In 1p years land rover will still be going strong and Toyota in 20 years will not be a brand considering how bad they're cars are now and how bad the value is 🤢🤢
You don’t know much about Defenders. Most since day one are still around and not crushed as you incorrectly asserted. I owned a disco and drove defenders in the army and never saw one break down. You must mix with idiots.
Or b, maintain it well and have no issues.
Over 70% of Land Rover Defenders made are still being driven. That’s the same number as Porsche and a number far higher than Toyota could dream of. Land Rovers will take you into battle. Toyotas take soccer moms to coffee.
The Land Cruiser, all day long. No question about it!
Personally, I would buy a used 80 Series LC and Spend the difference restoring the beast!!!
😁
You missed a trick! At 13:40, if you lower, yes, LOWER the suspension, it will touch the rock and pop it into “extended” mode. This is more than an inch higher than “offroad” height that you were in. Would have then been able to clear that obstacle.
Oh, and while it’s in extended mode you can press the raise suspension button with a foot on the brake and it goes into “hyper extension” mode which adds a ton more clearance. But im not a fan of that setting as there is no longer any give for ride comfort. But it’s cool to see it standing on stilts!
I've done this quite a few times, espectially on deep rutted tracks where the engine and trans trays are starting to drag and loose traction.
@@brianfeely902 I've been doing it lately too. Wow, it stands up high! I put a ream of A4 paper standing up vertically in my driveway and drove clean over it! That's in excess of 300mm! What I'm trying to ascertain now, is what are the conditions that make it automatically go back down again...
@@theshadypilot Once you drive over 3 mph or after 5 seconds or something along those lines, it should go back to normal. It's basically designed to be a "get me out of this specific shit" feature, and then go back to normal operation.
@@brianfeely902 yep, and whats cool is thats not even a new feature. My range rover from 1998 had it!
Exactly
Finally someone knows it
Actually it can go upto 334mm
Which is much much more than competition
Reliability is great, but I can't pay 2020 bucks for 2010 tech.
True dat Toyota is falling behind
You are a smart man. Unfortunately most people are sheeps
That's the conclusion I came to as well- debating between these(ish) two cars. Got a 2017 discovery and I love it. Can't fault the yota for those who want it, but I love that if my wife wants to do a road trip, she'll pick the comfort of a disco and I didn't have to leave behind the capable rig at home
@@johnbillings2283 Bought new? Any issues with the the dreaded reliability monster?
@@ktpinnacle bought used, 2017 (off lease). No issues yet, though I admit fear did get to me a bit so I got an extended warranty to take me 5 more years 100k miles.
Went and looked at both of these cars. Land Rover wanted $115,000AUD for the standard car, Land Cruiser GXL was $100,000. Would go the Toyota without a doubt.
if I win a Land Rover, I sell it and buy a Land Cruiser. Australians say: if you want to go to the desert, take a Land Rover, if you want to come back, take a Land Cruiser.
IDK I mean I see Land Rover LR3’s weekly with over 300k miles on them and plenty of LR4’s and Range Rovers with over 200k miles on them.
My Disco 2 has 225k miles. The internet will have you believe these cars are, "unreliable" I believe is the word they use.
The LR4 was pretty robust towards the end of its life here in the US. They worked out most of the kinks by then. But generally speaking, the Land Cruiser is widely regarded as one of the most dependable vehicles you can buy, and the Land Rover Defender or any Land Rover/Range Rover is typically finicky products.
@@Soh90 L319 LR3/4 and L320 2005-2013 RRS were both very reliable vehicles. Pretty much anything that was developed under Ford ownership was pretty good. But yeah LC’s have always been reliable.
@@theldaniel170 D2’s weren’t as horrible like people say they were I mean my parent had a 02’ D2 that lasted a long time before it needed a head gaskets.
Excuse me sir but you must have missed the memo - when referencing a land rover in the comment section of UA-cam you're only allowed to make fun of its reliability. It's preferable when making such comments that you have no firsthand experience with owning one
If you want to get into the outback, get a Land Rover. If you want to get back get a Land Cruiser. My Land Cruiser has 412,000 hard miles and still going strong.
Funny I hear that repeated all the time yet I'm in a 200,000 Mi Discovery Series 2 that will go hundreds of miles off-road and back on the hardest Trails ever with traction control from the year 2000 that works just as good as brand new Toyota Atrac but doesn't call it something
I doubt this Land Rover will last 300K miles, but if it does it will be worth $1.00 because it will be falling apart. Land Cruiser always.
Why would anyone keep a modern luxury vehicle for that long???
No question that Land Rover is a beauty, just has to prove its reliability. They may seem expensive but don't forget a well-equipped Rubicon is 70k or more.
Over here we say “if you want a vehicle to go to the centre of Australia get a Land Rover. If you want to get back out get a Land Cruiser”.
You need to wiggle the rear door a little bit and it locks in place.
Yes, just grab the inside door grip and give it a slight wiggle ! Brilliant
haha to funny
yeah if I'm going long term overlanding I'll get the LC since I do want to make it back to civilization w/o breaking down.
We own a 2003 Landcruiser with high miles but it rides so smooth... it’s our beast 😎
Land Rovers are reliable I’ve seen many with 250k plus miles
Yea the internet is definitely not a place to ask people if it's reliable unless they're not 12 and actually owned one people always shit on land rover for its reliablity when they haven't even owned own Alot of my neighbors own one sometimes for 15 years or more and never have a problem but quick tip is never buy a merc your lucky if you manage to leave the dealer without a check engine light going on they have the worst customer service and mechanics smh.
land rovers are garbage
@@jeff1595 market price doesn't lie, explain the HUGE used price difference?
@@and7976 since when did I talk about depreciation every car has depreciation its like puberty you just accept it :)
Proud owner of a 97 lx450 fully locked. Having said that, that new fendy is beautiful
If you have a V8 model do everything you can to keep it on the road.
@@bighands69 there is no v8 models of that era
@@igorv4631
Since you brought it up what do you think of LX 470 UZJ100?
@@bighands69 he said 450 which is 80 series
Land Cruiser are made to tow the other brands to the mechanics.
And other mechanics are made to tow Land Cruiser 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@edwardvalivonis23 achooda pavam, valicha comedy
@@vishnumurali he he😝✌🏻🔥🔥
So it’s a recovery vehicle?? Not off-roader!😂😂
Land rovers have to tow the boring land cruisers out from being stuck in mud and rocks.
Great vid - Landrover and Landcruisers are legends.
You should see the Carfax on my former 2015 LR4 ....about an inch thick. Spent a total of 3.5 months in total at the dealer in the 3 and a half years I had it. No feeling like doing 75 on the highway and having the suspension go out. Or hitting the gas and it lurching backwards. My 2007 LR3. Year 5 and 6 put about 4500 into it to keep it running post warranty. 2007 RR Sport. Took about 25K miles in constant visits to fix everything. Then it was pretty good to 140K. All bought new to take advantage of Section 179. My 2012 Range Rover was actually perfect. No issues. Now for my Toyotas. 2000 4Runner Limited bought new. Bought an extended warranty. Worst waste of money cause I never used it. 75K miles and only warranty repair was a broken arm rest. Traded in with original brakes. Bought a used 2000 Land Cruiser in 2004 with 67K. Came with new tires and brakes. Traded in at 150K on same tires and brakes. Nothing broke but the tape deck (which I don't own any tapes). Worst decision to get rid of that car. Someone is probably still driving that car.....
Oh yeah. The big Rovers love new brakes and tires every 25K miles. I could write a whole post on all the loaners that would break.Them Rovers sure are pretty though :) while I do see some high mileage ones they seem to require a lot of work, Toyotas do that with little more than fluid changes and normal wear items. Actually great friends with my Land Rover mechanic now. He tells me all mechanics at his dealership drive Toyotas, Subarus, and Jeeps.
I think reliability is pretty important when you're off-road. You take a Land Rover out off-roading, you take a Land Cruiser if you want to actually get back.
Land Rover improve day by day
That's funny cuz I take my 20 year old Land Rover off-road hundreds of miles all the time constantly
At 13:54, I believe there are 2 extra high modes for the suspension above the highest off road mode. I believe engaging them will help you clear that obstacle.
Yes, would be nice if reviewers actually read the manual before reviewing a car.
Exactly the defender can go upto 334 mm which is much more than the competition
I'll take the Land Rover Defender over the copycat Toyota Land Cruiser. Yes, you can put 200k on a Land Cruiser because it's meant to be used for highway driving, unlike the Land Rover Defender that is a true overlander not meant to be used mainly on the highway. Any LR, or RR will outperform Toyota's SUVs all day long all side Jeep, the new Ford Bronco straight stock.
I've bought 100 + Toyotas that had major motor problems with less than 1200 miles on them. Toyota stopped making their own motors and are having a 3rd party make them for the last 20+ years.
I know there will be a lot of haters there but the truth hurts sometimes. One thing I will say is any SUV sold today is very overpriced no matter what brand.
You pay 81k for an LR and out the dealers is worth 30k. The LC 20yrs later is worth 45k
What's the difference?
Which is why the last of the old Defenders actually cost more now (10 years old) than they did at the dealer. Plastic Toyota junk? Can’t give them away.
Hi guys, love the video. Don't know much about the petrol engine cruiser , but I do have a '15 200 series with the 4.5L Turbo Diesel engine. WOW. I love that thing.
You mentioned reliability that that is where the Toyota rules. They just keep going and going and going. In Australia LR are seen as the city vehicle(school run etc.). Great looking vehicle and loads of tech. Very refined. But my cruiser just keeps getting things done. and will still be getting it done in 20, 30 years or more. And the after market is HUGE. Bugger all for the LR's.
Again, thanks for the video, good fun, I'll be back.
land cruiser is the best never let u down u have beast on your side love love the land cruiser just the way it is no craapppy extra electric gadget can break easily toyota keeps every thing solid like the way it is old school hand break body on frame very solid off reading this is the way to go
The fact that one was willing to risk a Land Cruiser, being a press vehicle, for more dangerous lines and tracks while the other one bothered to do so shows the trust everyone has in a Land Cruiser. You are not a UN-designated All Terrain Vehicle of choice by mistake or pure luck!
LC no contest
The defender can’t defend itself as a good suv when it breaks down
Well it's more capable offroad than the landcruiser but yes yes reliability issues which the new range rover ambassador is dressing very well
@@johnpaulonyeama9931 once all the issues are fixed it will shit on te land criuser that gay suv
Its seems the land cruiser chooses most tough terrain
Until you mentioned it I hadn’t thought about the value difference between these two vehicles, The 200 series land cruiser is 14 years old now, with that engine dating back to 1999. It’s kind of amazing they sell for the price they do considering the technology is well known. It’s nice to see the comparison between these but I don’t think the demographics of the two owners overlap anymore, the defender is more aspirational and will sell well in cities.
this has the 5.7 3URFE. The 1998-2007 has the 4.7 2UZFE
You get what you pay for
.. and the LR will spend half of its life in shops lol
land cruiser is a beast you can always trust,land rover very good on you tube but what about reality?
Better. It is why special forces around the world (US Army Rangers/SAS/SASR/Carabinieri/GROM) all use Land Rover. Who used Land Cruiser? Islamic Terrorists…..
Land cruiser is simply the best suv. Here in my country if you own one everybody gets out of your way especially if it’s a black tinted!
Could've sworn I heard the running board hit on the defender haha 😂😂
Not possible
Actually there are emergency suspension raise in defender when ever you need it
In offroad height its 291mm clearance which is more than lc but when ever you need the car will automatically go upto 334mm! Which is much more than the competition
In the heat n harsh conditions and of the Borneo jungle n long treks where life n livelihood depends on your vehicle, japanese vehicles esp toyotas are needed. Land Rovers always look more beautiful n were plentiful in the past but when push comes to shove unfortunately reliability wins for most people here.
the 2 most important things for serious off roading. 1) have a spotter, 2) winch.
Land cruiser always!!! That air suspension will be a real problem in months.
Toyota no one can beat you .
You are a beast and will be .
Toyota don't underestimate the power of a Toyota .
Awesome video. Fan of both SUVs
I hate the ending... just want a permanent live stream of Kyle's life... it's the dream!
One of these is my next vehicle. I truly cannot decide. Both badass. Would go XS on the Defender.
I've got a discovery and I love it. Can't fault the land cruiser though
Coming from someone who has owned:
- 2008 Range Rover sport supercharged
-2005 4runner
-and now a 2007 lexus gx4700:
Its Definitely an over-pushed and an over-hyped position to have to think that toyota reliability is so much superior, or so much more important. I had numerous problems with my 4 runner that never existed in my range rover. Except for the frame rot. The metal they use in toyota and lexus really sucks.
The reason why toyota has a reputation for being more reliable is partially because its under-powered.
Its built to handle more power than it comes with. Parts for them are also much cheaper, but you can feel the cheapness when you drive it.
I had a 2008 range rover sport supercharged, and I just switched to a 2007 lexus gx470. Overall, the driving experience is much less fun with the GX470. It almost feels like someone pissed in my cheerios. But then again, the msrp is much less for the lexus gx470.
In either case, if you can afford an 80-100k vehicle, you can probably afford to fix it every so often. And additionally, you're not going to keep the car for 20 years...... You're more likely to drive it 100k-150k miles and then want a newer better vehicle anyway.
So buy the lexus, pay more, get a slower and less powerful car, and use it in the exact same way, get the same gas mileage, and pat yourself on the back because you didn't break down?
I like to hear my supercharger whine.
Like Richard Hammond said : That is a very good Discovery , but it is not a Defender.
Land Cruiser owners buy them to keep for a long time. It's beauty is longevity and build quality. I've seen the new defender in person and though it's cool it's just not built to the same standard. If you don't keep cars for very long go for it.
I'll take the one that doesn't breakdown.
Which SUV doesn't break down?
@@BoskiM I haven't seen a single new suv breaking down
LC all day, everyday.. You guys should air down though
So if we accept the Land Cruiser has better reliability, it doesn't change the fact that the Defender is better looking inside and out, overall more capable off road, better tech and spec, and way better on road, and surprisingly at a lower cost to purchase.
Everyone is forgetting the most important feature. the Land Cruiser's center console is a cooler. Also i have a 2004 Land cruiser with proper All terrains and 250k and will make it up all of those features while pulling my camper trailer.
Send RR to Afrika / Australia for 14 days straight to prove its value ... Lc has done it
Landrover was in Africa/ Australia before Toyota
@@bluepaul196245 Yes. and we replace them
Google LR Defender and Namibia press trip. So many silly comments from the Toyota fanboy club here. Ridiculous.
@@arkos55 U huys don't have rugged terrain, desert mostly . we had the LR back in the day but they vanish with the arrival of LC . Try the LC HZ v8 , 24V - we all love LC because of this variant/Machine.
@@arkos55 We are free back in my country "Mozambique" we do not please no nation, especial the ones who have colonized us. We had the damn LR but we the time we have shifted to LC because are better. If U don't be;I've it , It might help I got this info from a white man "from spain " living in Moz as a miner.
Both of them every powerful & Beautiful very good capable to go anywhere off roaring side..
But my choice
is LC ZX...
I don't wanna go and die there, so I chose land cruiser for going to and coming from a place.
Have to say, I'm a little tired of hearing that the TFL Defender broke down, no it kept on going, it had a check engine light that know one new what the problem was, so the engineers said it needs a new engine. Granted a check engine light on a new car is not good, but I suspect it was blown out of all proportion. Also the second one they said was also broke, was broken by a mechanic at the dealership who severed a wiring harness!
They threw mud on the Defender because they lost money on having to cancel the 'To hell and back' series with the Defender. 1st one had a fault ( lots of new cars can have faults in any brand, not just JLR ), 2nd was damaged by a mechanic ( the lad didn't get the proper training because of the Covid outbreak, so all the training they received was trough Zoom or PDFs ). And all that took a long time overall ( again, COVID made it that way ). The only thing I regret about the TFL Defender that they didn't wait a bit longer to get the same spec they had on the 1st one.
Agree! 👍 The TFL “3-broken-Defenders” is fake news. Lets give the Defender a fair chance before bad mouthing it!
Sorry but you guys are making a whole lot of excuses for a manufacturer that already has a bad reputation for reliability. I'm honestly glad TFL had to deal with that after they talked down about their old landcruiser for being too reliable which apparently takes the passion out of owning the vehicle. I hope they enjoyed the "passion" for the new defender lol
@@LandCruisin Toyota's reputation for reliability is overestimated and Land Rovers unreliability is also overestimated, particularly by Americans. The key point in your statement was "reputation", this comes from the fact Toyota's have, slowly, replaced the old Defender in most of the world, due to cheapness, were servicing and maintenance just doesn't happen! In the less developed world cars are kept running, by finding parts from recked vehicles, and there are a lot of cheap recked Toyota's !
@@tygerbright117 Its ok to have a different preference, but Facts > Bias.
At least you guys have more cajones an actually take them on the obstacles and show them at work. TFL chickens out. Will sub.
TFL are suckers, they were good some years ago, today Roman and his Son Tommy are just Clowns.
Lol that’s the truth. TFL go through a gravel parking lot and call it off-roading
Great vid guys! Thoroughly enjoyed it. I'll be checking back for more from you! (Oh and you forgot to include the clip of the Landy breaking down on the drive home!)
So which Landrover model do you own to make this retarded comment?
@@bluepaul196245 None anymore...never again! Nehhh-Verrrrrr. Ree-tahr-dehhhd.
Habibi come to Dubai we will show you what lc200 can do 😂
Just a point of clarification, the difference between HP and PS is not where it's being measured (they are both brake horsepower which is what all manufacturer HP claims are), it's a difference in the technical way horsepower is calculated between metric and imperial measurements, PS being metric horsepower.
I have to say I'm not a fan of the Defender tailgate. It looks nice and retro, but it's just not practical. I'd much prefer the LC split tailgate, even if it's slow to open and close.
I agree. I own a split tailgate Land Rover (Discovery 3) and the only reason the Defender tailgate is swing out is because of the full size spare wheel
Actually that split tailgate was copied from range rover
I've had 3 Toyota Prados (never owned a Land Cruiser) and 3 Landrover Discoverys (3, 4, 5). Discovery kills the Prado off road. Terrain Response is almost cheating! Never had a breakdown in the Landrovers as everyone worries about. My Discovery 4 has 250 000 Km on the clock and has been worked in the Australian outback. Still going strong. Think their reliability issues disappeared with the release of the Discovery 3. Big negative with the 5 is that there is no room under the bonnet for a second battery.
How much Land Rover pay you to say that
"Cruiser" Nothing else enough said.
I think FJ Cruiser was the perfect competition of it
If you think either cars are perfect for overlanding, then go out overlanding!
I’d pray over for the owner of the Defender.
That land rover defender is the most silly looking lol
Music, drone shots and filming in general is totally fire 🔥 Thanks to Kyle and the crew for this informative video!
Legendary off roaders Wrangler could also be a good one
Love my 200 series Land Cruiser. It has the legendary million mile proven 5.7 V8, and they built a premium SUV to match. It’s such a nice vehicle to tour with 7 people comfortably both on and off road. When overlanding in the middle of no where with no support, I’d choose the Land Cruiser without a second thought. Especially, when your life can depend on it.
the landrover defender from the 90's was the coolest looking land rover, the new one doesn't look as cool. Anyways, i stay with the landcruiser, i just bought one 2019 in 2023:P
i wouldn't drove off too far from autoservice on land rover
Highly doubt you know much you can't even spell lol!
@@jeff1595 you right, cuz english isn't my native language, but every year statistic of reliability tell us that i'm right, top of lemon cars landrover/jaguar
@@jeff1595 i suggest you to watch from TFL channel review about this car, they are own it, cuz own it and just test it it's two different thing
@@vzheka1981 you should watched other channel too. Or maybe their video didn't interest you because their land rover doesn't break down?
@@babyphat8965 I believe that some land rover/range rover doesn't break down, but in general 99% it's lemon
If the Defender ever becomes as reliable I WILL BUY ONE. until then I’ll make do with my LC 200
I'd like to see a behind the scenes of this crew learning the whole filmmaking craft as they go. It's be cool to see them learn about ND filters and color grading and microphones and background music. Doing more than one take so you can get different stick-on gopro angles. Don't swivel the camera to the thing the guy is talking about. Cut to the thing in the edit. Stuff like that.
You never get to see that learning process of going from really good home movies to polished videos. It's like I'm learning with you.
Nice, very well demonstrated! And some laughter along with the review!
Who here saw those rocks and thought "those are the razor rocks"?
I did.
The Heritage Edition doesn't have any extra skid plates over the base model. Just has more ground clearance due to no side steps.